iowa …. chat away

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President Barack Obama prepares to sign legislation in the Oval Office, Jan. 3, 2012. Staff Secretary Rajesh De is pictured at left. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

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  1. January 3, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    OMG…….Am I first???????

  2. 6 Anya
    January 3, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    First!, maybe?

  3. January 3, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Me third ๐Ÿ™‚ ?

  4. January 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Any place where we can watch the vote tally?

  5. January 3, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    any news on the clowns show yet ?

  6. 16 FiredUpInCA
    January 3, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    In a single paragraph, The Wall Street Journal does a good job of dismantling the I’ll-run-government-like-a-business nonesense:

    The GOP’s Not-So-Great Communicators

    No one should judge politicians on rhetoric alone. But to govern, presidents do need to interest, move and compel us: They need to be good speakers.

    “Although a lot of Republicans keep wishing otherwise, running the federal government is nothing at all like running a business. Presidents don’t hire or fire members of Congress, and only a few thousand of the more than one million civilians that the federal government employs serve at the chief executive’s pleasure. An aptitude for reviewing business plans or a talent for wooing investorsโ€”useless.

    Presidents must instead govern by getting the rest of us to see things they way they see them. They need to interest, move and compel us. In a word, they need to be good speakers.

    Which brings us to Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and the rest of the GOP field. As the candidates continue their scramble, a scorecard:

    Test One: Does anybody really want to listen to this person?”


  7. 17 AnitaW
    January 3, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Wish I could watch, but blocked at work. Ugh. I hope Iowa enjoys the moment.

  8. January 3, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    CNN had it listed all day in their livestream queue. I wonder if they don’t have enough channels because they’re going to cover as much RW garbage as they possibly can. ARGH.

  9. January 3, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    Chips, that CNN link did not work for me. Any suggestions?

    January 3, 2012 at 8:05 pm


  11. 32 desertflower
    January 3, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    That link for PBO doesn’t work…404 error…whatever that means

  12. January 3, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    These caucuses ain’t got nothing on him.

  13. January 3, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    Does not the The democrats also vote for the President?
    I would like to know how many people came out for the President?

  14. January 3, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    So the iowans elected ronnie raygun ?

  15. January 3, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    Try clicking on the link in the tweet, does that help?

  16. 42 halo
    January 3, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    What link do we use for PBO’s remarks?

  17. 43 mtmarilyn (@mtmarilyn2)
    January 3, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Is anyone seeing the President anywhere?

  18. 47 Linda
    January 3, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Sometimes I wish Steve Schmitt was a Democrat……he is very smart.

  19. January 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Epic takedown of MSNBC…by Heather!

    Bernard Goldberg: Fox and CNN Are Going to be Covering Iowa Caucus Night With Journalists, Unlike MSNBC
    By Heather| January 03, 2012 04:00 AM

    I hate to break it to both of them but if they think MSNBC’s coverage at night is “far left” then they don’t know what the “far left” looks like, or they’re pretending they don’t at least. They lean towards the Democratic Party, but far left… I don’t think so. I’ve got a few Socialists they could talk to around here if they want to know what the “far left” looks like. And calling CNN and Fox’s pundits on election night “journalists” is a joke. They’re pundits just like the rest of them in our corporate media. The nerve of either O’Reilly or Goldberg to be criticizing anyone else in the corporate media for biased coverage is simply laughable on its face. Sadly the two of them are counting in the misinformed Fox audience to not get the joke.

    They did hit on one point I actually agree with, which is the corporate media’s obsession with the horse race instead of actually covering the issues and where these candidates stand. Sadly, their own network isn’t any better (and usually worse) at that than the other two they were criticizing….



  20. 51 jacquelineoboomer
    January 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Have we missed it?

  21. 60 hopefruit2
    January 3, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    CNN is showing a Republican link!

  22. January 3, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Is that PBO’s secretary now that Katie Johnson left?

  23. January 3, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    Rachel wishes she was there, voting for Ron Paul!


  24. 67 Tulips
    January 3, 2012 at 8:23 pm

  25. 69 Tulips
    January 3, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Remember there is over 1700 caucuses.

  26. January 3, 2012 at 8:26 pm
  27. 72 hopefruit2
    January 3, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    None of the CNN livestream links are showing the President.

  28. 76 Tulips
    January 3, 2012 at 8:28 pm

  29. January 3, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    Hey, here’s another caucus.

  30. 78 hopefruit2
    January 3, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    CNN deceived Obama supporters by giving them a link to Republican caucuses.

  31. 79 ShyLurkerB****
    January 3, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    I wish this Iowa thing would announce a winner so I can wash my hair already, damn! :p

    I mean it though.

  32. 81 Betsy
    January 3, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    Rachel just loves Ron Paul ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    • 82 dotster3
      January 3, 2012 at 8:38 pm

      Yes noticed that in many instances. Her whole tone and manner changes when she talks about him. Knowing what we all know about him, this does not make sense to me at all. Zero.

      • 83 L3
        January 3, 2012 at 8:45 pm

        She’s either really into him or she is just trying to annoy those of us who are appalled by him. She’s showing her immaturity by being a contrarian just for the hell of it. I despise her so that I turned off MSNBC’s coverage when I saw she was anchoring.

    • 84 isonprize
      January 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm

      Rachel is officially an idiot, in my book. How can any person who is an “outed” homosexual just “LOVE” Ron Paul. What an idiot she is.

    • 86 Mel
      January 3, 2012 at 10:00 pm

      Say what? RM likes R.P , but, but, but Ron paul dislikes GAYS how could that be possible?

  33. 89 desertflower
    January 3, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    Photo of PBO speaking to Iowa dems

  34. 94 donna dem 4 obama
    January 3, 2012 at 8:33 pm

  35. 101 collegekay
    January 3, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    I wish we could see him!!!! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  36. January 3, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    That legislation the President signed today is new rules for soldiers going through TSA!

  37. 103 Brit
    January 3, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Rachel Maddow IS not a Democrat. She is IN LOVE with Ron Paul, and Jon Huntsman.

    • 104 desertflower
      January 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm

      Rachel would have to hide who she is again…..I don’t understand how you could wish that pain on anyone else….

    • 105 dotster3
      January 3, 2012 at 8:43 pm

      I heard her mention those 2 as not being vulnerable no matter what the result tonight, that they could not be hurt no matter who comes out on top. Didn’t make sense to me, and everyone else had puzzled looks when she said that too.

      • January 3, 2012 at 8:47 pm

        Paul will finish top three and has probably the second best bank of the candidates raised at this point, and Huntsman didn’t even contest Iowa, so he can’t be hurt by any result. Huntsman is all in in NH next Tuesday – where anything less than a top three and he’s finished.

    • January 3, 2012 at 8:44 pm

      Nah, she’s bringing up valid points about how the Republican Party is afraid of Ron Paul doing well. She’s leading a panel covering a Republican caucus so she’s not going to be talking about Obama. She’s just doing her job.

      • 108 Brit
        January 3, 2012 at 8:51 pm

        No one is asking Rachel to talk about the President. Rachel is NOT a Democrat, she has an obsession with Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman.

        • 109 vero804
          January 3, 2012 at 9:05 pm

          But I think that’s what forus50 is saying…she’s talking about Republicans, in this case Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman, because that’s really all she can talk about right now while covering a republican primary. She’s picking who she thinks has some viability and Paul does seem to have some and Huntsman is trying to do it via NH.

        • January 3, 2012 at 9:07 pm

          I think it’s because the rest of the media disses and dismisses Ron Paul because that’s what their masters (Koch, Rove) etc demand. So I think it’s a valid point for her to bring up that he is getting as much support as Romney but the Republican establishment wants everyone to look the other way.

    • 111 Jessica
      January 3, 2012 at 8:47 pm

      I say she’s a liberal libertarian at best.

      • January 3, 2012 at 8:54 pm

        I thins that she’s clearly a Liberal, and a good one. She can be an ass and she’s not mature enough, but she’s far better than most of the PL.

        • 113 mb32
          January 4, 2012 at 7:26 am

          Agreed. I get frustrated with her at times but she said about NDAA the other day was very fair. I was surprised by that considering all of the noise

    • 114 vero804
      January 3, 2012 at 8:57 pm

      She may not be a Democrat, but damn, I don’t think she’s a Republican either. I think she tries to play impartial…you’re not getting Rev Al type pro-PBO talk from her, but that should be ok if we just want to get some analysis from various perspectives.

      Yes, she’s an admitted chicken little when it comes to Democrats and President Obama. And yes she’s lost it at times with her analysis…specifically about DADT. But overall I just don’t see her as an enemy or particularly offensive to watch. I think she’s smart and covers topics a lot of her counterparts don’t cover as smartly.

  38. 115 hopefruit2
    January 3, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    I’m glad that Lawrence O’Donnell is pointing out Paul’s extreme bigotry to Rachel and Ed.

  39. 122 donna dem 4 obama
    January 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm

  40. 123 collegekay
    January 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Rachel is a hypocrite. Just last summer she was grilling Ron Paul’s son about him not supporting the Civil Rights Act.

  41. January 3, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    Maddow nukes Pres. Obama fir the littlest thing she disagrees with him on, but will overlook everything else of Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman because she agrees with them on one thing. She is deranged.

    • 129 hopefruit2
      January 3, 2012 at 8:51 pm

      That is how the seeds of injustice are sown. By being UNFAIR and holding double standards.

    • 130 Chi
      January 4, 2012 at 2:47 am

      Absolutely spot on…

      Rachel Maddow is shallow, immature and vindictive…

      She would only be described as Liberal if one also believes Bill Maher and Glen Greenwald to be liberals”…

      But then again, the election of President Obama has us dealing with the betrayal and conscious and subconscious racism of so-called “liberals” we all once strongly identified with…

      No more however as many have been forever unmasked and exposed for the awful racists they are…

  42. 131 dotster3
    January 3, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    I see Bachmann is projected to come in last. Guess that miracle she was predicting will not materialize.

  43. 135 dotster3
    January 3, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Ugh Knoller tweets that Obama tried to grab some of the spotlight tonight—–as if he had no business as President of the United States speaking to Dem caucus attendees.

    • January 3, 2012 at 8:58 pm

      Just echoing Kristol who was interviewed by Meghyn Kelly on Fox and was bemoaning how the President shouldn’t do this and how he’s being too partisan and it will hurt him for being partisan so far out.

    • 137 hopefruit2
      January 3, 2012 at 8:58 pm

      What I really feel like saying to Knoller – I will keep it to myself for now. I’m trying hard here.

    • 140 vero804
      January 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm

      LOL…well Knoller would be right. And is there something wrong with that? The president should not sit back and allow the Republicans to suck up all of the oxygen. He must make his presence known.

  44. 142 rikyrah
    January 3, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Wanker of the Day: David Brooks
    by BooMan
    Tue Jan 3rd, 2012 at 03:09:30 PM EST

    David Brooks really is insufferable. He runs in the most elite, intellectual circles and, yet, he is completely obsessed with the working man. He works for the New York Times but he tells us that the Republican Party is the party of the white working class. What about being the party of Wall Street and rich, white people in general?

    Think Progress ran a piece recently that had a chart showing that all seven Republican candidates support:

    1. New tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans
    2. New tax cuts for corporations
    3. Ending Medicare as we know it
    4. Cutting Social Security benefits
    5. Repealing the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reforms
    6. opposition to the Buffett Rule, that would tax millionaires at at least the same rate as their secretaries.

    All but Huntsman oppose:

    1. cutting Big Oil subsidies
    2. eliminating tax cuts for companies that ship jobs overseas

    So, I think about why a working class person (white or any other color) would support a Republican or think that the party belongs to them. And then I read this:


  45. January 3, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    google has an interactive map


    As of now paul 25% . lil rck and willard at 23%. I hope willard comes third.

  46. January 3, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    If I was in Iowa, I would have skipped the OFA stuff and voted in the GOP primary – either Santorum or Paul.

  47. 150 hopefruit2
    January 3, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Chuck Todd looks depressed. Maybe it’s just New Year or winter blues, but I don’t think so.

  48. 151 hopefruit2
    January 3, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    BREAKING: Gary Johnson drops his bid for Libertarian Presidency run and endorses Ron Paul.

    I guess Greenwald’s endorsement will be next.

  49. January 3, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    Any one reporting on the turn-out ? Is it better or worse than 2008 ?

  50. January 3, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    For real! Goodness!

  51. 158 halo
    January 3, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    It looks like Iowa Dems came out tonight!

  52. 163 dotster3
    January 3, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    I saw David Frum tweet something funny—-some people at his caucus were still so undecided that they never even cast a ballot.

    • January 3, 2012 at 9:21 pm

      I don’t know if that’s a joke, but i actually was wondering if something like that would happen. My deep desire is that the whole GOP is depressed, uninspired and “undecided” right on through November 2012 ๐Ÿ˜€ .

      Looking at the coverage tonight and the contrast to 2008 is incredibly stark. These candidates (even wacky Ron Paul) are boring, bland and stiff. The talking heads keep pontificating, but with the possible exception of the always-excitable Tweety, not even they can muster up any of the usual drama.

      I even peeked in on Faux…..looks more like a wake than a caucus night.


  53. January 3, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    I like this Steve Schmidt analysis on MSNBC. I think it’s a good panel. Trying to make the Clown Car candidates appear intersting…

    • 168 halo
      January 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm

      He helped to re-elect President Bush with Karl Rove. Man knows what he’s talking about.

      • January 3, 2012 at 9:18 pm

        yup. I think he’s the one that came out after the election in favor of same sex marriage and assailed the Republicans for wanting the President to fail. I’ll have to look that up.

        • 170 nintendowii10
          January 3, 2012 at 9:25 pm

          I also believe he was one of the chief people who helped force Sarah Palin onto the McCain ticket in 2008.

          • 171 donna dem 4 obama
            January 3, 2012 at 9:27 pm


            • 172 Chi
              January 4, 2012 at 4:05 am

              It continues to baffle…

              The idea that some folks here want us to believe that Steve Schmidt is anything but the slimy, underhanded, racist asshole he always has been is quite amusing…

              Steve Schmidt came out for gay marriage only after the elections and just like Dick Cheney, only because a close relative – Steve’s sister, is gay…

              I hope nobody here buys what is being tossed around here lately as benign by a handful of posters…

              TOD family, please remain alert and do not let anyone try to neutralize or try to sell you the contrived softened image of some of the most hardcore right-wingers who brought us Sarah Palin and will do everything to defeat President Obama…

              The most rabid right-wingers are using a new approach – infiltrate and usurp Democratic and liberal leaning groups and media people…

              Pose as a “moderate” and “reasonable” while getting as many liberals to begin to embrace some spoiler candidate posing as “left of President Obama” on matters relating to abruptly ending a war sure to create chaos…

              And strip away as many supporters as possible from President Obama…

              TOD be watchful as not everyone who says they are with us in our support of our magnificent President truly are…

  54. 187 desertflower
    January 3, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    O/T but a nice write up of ACA that we should ALL KNOW BY HEART ๐Ÿ™‚


  55. 189 donna dem 4 obama
    January 3, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    Apparently Ron Paul sent out a nasty tweet to Huntsman.. Sam Stein is reporting that the Paul Campaign has since deleted the tweet


  56. 196 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Looks like Santorum and Paul are neck and neck in Iowa, with Romney in a not too faraway third.

    Bachmann might as well throw in the towel now, she bet her chances on Iowa and failed.

  57. January 3, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    a picture taken of President Obama during his address of the Iowa Caucus…….. from the video above….. you wouldn’t have thought someone was sitting next to him lol


  58. January 3, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    I notice that all these bratty talking heads and PLs that want Obama to “fight” “get tough with republicans” “use the bully pulpit” “not compromise” are the same ones that fall all over themselves when talking to GOP candidates. ๐Ÿ™„

  59. January 3, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    And Romney puls ahead!

  60. 207 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Santorum now in first with .2% lead and Willard behind, Paul in third… Paul really did crash and burn to fall into third and even allow WILLARD to take second, that’s gotta burn!

    • January 3, 2012 at 9:31 pm

      Romney now in first place. ๐Ÿ™‚ This is a zoo also. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • 209 nintendowii10
        January 3, 2012 at 9:33 pm

        Wow, how much is it going to hurt that Willard might actually win Iowa? Ronulans going to be crying tears of sadness.

    • January 3, 2012 at 9:32 pm

      I may be in the minority, but I really want Paul to do very poorly tonight…..for several reasons. I’d take a Romney victory even before I’d like to see Paul win.

      • 211 dotster3
        January 3, 2012 at 9:44 pm

        Santorum is #1 on my enemy list—-and it’s quite a list. But he has been accusing Obama of treason saying he “always sides with the enemy” among other ugly horrible lies. He’s outrageous in accusations against Obama—-he’ll say anything—- and so extreme on every social issue—–no birth control???? That’s just ridiculous—-as ridiculous as you can get. Just a cockeyed religious extremist, blinded by hate for everyone who doesn’t see the world with his same very narrow view. And has obvious racial issues.

      • 212 Walking_on_ Sunshine
        January 3, 2012 at 9:53 pm

        I’m with you on that. He’s a creepy paranoid little racist.

      • 213 Obama Grandmama
        January 3, 2012 at 10:24 pm

        I understand why you don’t want Paul to win as I am with you. I think Ron Paul could pull a lot of Independents and Dems as well as the GOP party. Even though he has so many problems that do not make sense for him to pull that many people I think he might. I notice Jon Stewart, and Rachel Maddow keep boosting Paul up.
        I see that Ed Shultz thinks Santorum is as good a campaigner as Obama with the people. That is a weird assessment. Ed is not very stable with his support though. I am not thinking Santorum is that great but do not know.
        I hate Mitt Romney and hope he is not the candidate as I hate hearing people might think he would be a viable candidate for Prez. He is the 1% representing corporate greed. He has no character or beliefs but then maybe that would make him an opponent.

  61. 214 desertflower
    January 3, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Paul, Romney, and Santorum all at 23%….per NBC

    • 215 Mel
      January 3, 2012 at 11:28 pm

      Paul, Romney, and Sanitorium will never be presidents they are so fuking extremist for the country,
      and dangerous.the will neverget, The Latino Vote, Asian Indian,irish woman and AA people, not to
      mention the Siniors, and younger collage kidds. I not worried at all about PBO, the MSM can spin
      all their bullshit they want, but is not going to work.

  62. 216 halo
    January 3, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    I can’t believe these young people are voting for Ron Paul.

  63. 220 desertflower
    January 3, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    cnn has R, S, P in that order…

    • January 3, 2012 at 9:37 pm

      They all complain about PBO, but they all are trying to take a page out of PBO’s 2008 election playbook. I would bet you big money that they all have a copy of Plouffe’ s book.

  64. January 3, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    In most of the counties paul is leading, he is thrashing willard by double digits.

  65. January 3, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    All we need now is Chris Hayes giving us his expert opinion on Ron Paul.

    Oh wait…

  66. 228 desertflower
    January 3, 2012 at 9:38 pm


    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Three Swiss bankers have been charged with helping American taxpayers hide more than $1.2 billion from the Internal Revenue Service, the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan announced Tuesday.
    Michael Berlinka, Urs Frei and Roger Keller face up to five years in prison for their roles in the scheme, the U.S. Attorney’s Office said. They are accused of helping more than 100 clients hide assets between 2005 and 2010.

    PBO hasn’t done a thing. remember?

  67. January 3, 2012 at 9:39 pm


    Champagne all around!!

  68. 234 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    Maybe Michele Bachmann can call Tim Tebow in to conduct a prayer session with Jesus to ressurect her campaign!

  69. January 3, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Paul’s own fault for never attacking Romney in Iowa. Sure sink Gingrich, but never go after Romney – great strategy.

    Regardless with all this being proportional, all three will get within one delegate of the other. If Mitt wins but gets less % or total votes than he got in 2008 what would that mean? Give all campaigns a talking point?

    • 236 nintendowii10
      January 3, 2012 at 9:44 pm

      The winner in the end tonight is Willard. If he wins Iowa tonight it’s because he bought the election. If he “loses,” he’ll still go on to win in New Hampshire and South Carolina where he leads, gains momentum and goes into February with the nomination sealed up. If Bachmann were intelligent, she’d throw in the towel now and endorse Willard in hopes of getting into the VP selection pool, we’ve got Nikki Haley (SC Gov) already in that pool from her endorsement.

      • 237 Chi
        January 4, 2012 at 5:07 am

        Oh please…

        Throw her hat in the ring and endorse Romney in the hopes of a V.P consideration…funny…

        That V.P spot has been promised to too many people but no matter in the end it’s really all about who goes down with Romney…

    • January 3, 2012 at 9:47 pm

      All of which amounts to jacksquat at the convention since the delegates are not bound today’s results. They can vote for anyone if it’s brokered.

    • January 3, 2012 at 9:47 pm

      I have a feeling that the glove will come off after tonight; especially from Newt.

  70. January 3, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    Iowa Caucus Results Coming In
    By Bluegal aka Fran| January 03, 2012 05:40 PM

    IOWA – 22% reporting

    Mitt Romney
    6,297 23% 0

    Rick Santorum
    6,256 23% 0

    Ron Paul
    6,240 23% 0

    Newt Gingrich
    3,596 13% 0

    Rick Perry
    2,833 10% 0

    Michele Bachmann
    1,608 6% 0

    Jon Huntsman
    169 1% 0


  71. January 3, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    If it stays 23 at 3 ways, they all get the same amount of delegates!

  72. January 3, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    A Rick Perry fan in wingnut land is very excited:

    Perry just won his first county, Clayton County, a river county on the far northeast end of the state. Low turnout but itโ€™s a win nonetheless.

    Candidate Votes %
    Perry 20 – 27%
    Romney 17 – 23%
    Paul 16 – 22%
    Santorum 13 – 18%
    Bachmann 5 – 7%
    Gingrich 4 – 6%


    Yes, Rick won with 20 votes ๐Ÿ˜†

    • 252 nintendowii10
      January 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm

      Didn’t you hear chips, he’s the Tim Tebow of the Republican Party! He’s winning, Tim Tebow style!

      • 253 dotster3
        January 3, 2012 at 9:57 pm

        Bachmann called herself Tebow too. Lots of Tebows running. The magic has worn off though—-they should have checked—he’s lost the last 3 games—last Sunday’s game an embarrassment.

        • 254 nintendowii10
          January 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm

          As a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, I am salivating at my team putting the final nail in the Tebowmania coffin on Sunday!

      • 256 anniebella
        January 3, 2012 at 10:05 pm

        Rick Perry in case you haven’t being paying attention, Tim Tebow isn’t that good of a NFL quarterback. So I guess you are saying you ain’t that good of a candidate.

  73. January 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    A tense President Obama watches the results from Iowa:

  74. January 3, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    Jon Huntsman holding down that 1% ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

  75. January 3, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    I notice with Al Gore sitting across from him, Cenk is not anti obama. Not one bad word.

    • 266 nintendowii10
      January 3, 2012 at 9:53 pm

      The emoprogs are realizing that the Ron Paul train is crashing and burning, so they’ll run right back to President Obama and kiss his ass for all the money they can, then after he’s re elected get right back to sniveling about every fight he “sells out” on.

    • January 3, 2012 at 9:55 pm

      Really Jovie? That’s hilarious! I wonder if Al had a word with Cenk about his Ron Paul leanings? Although, quite why Al hired a ‘former’ hardcore right-winger for Current I’ll never know. Cenk is an embarrassing fraud.

      • January 3, 2012 at 10:03 pm

        He made Cenk say as frustrated as I am with the President, supreme court nominees for the right would be dangerous..
        Good job Al!

        • January 3, 2012 at 10:07 pm

          Ah yes, the progressive Cenk: “I was so conservative judicially that I went to Federalist Society meetings.” He was a Clarence Thomas fan too ๐Ÿ™„

      • January 3, 2012 at 10:22 pm

        I’ve been deeply disappointed in Al Gore about this. There is no possible excuse or reason for hiring Cenk. He has no business getting any air time at all and he brings no credit to Gore or Current. Bad, bad hire.

        • January 3, 2012 at 10:24 pm

          +1,000,000,000 Jackie – the guy is a 100% fake.

        • 273 Chi
          January 4, 2012 at 5:18 am

          Absolutely spot on Jackie…

          With all the really great liberal minds out of work as the corporations buy up and control things, how hard would it have been for Al Gore to find a half decent, smart, articulate, responsible liberal…

          Why settle for the embarrassingly mediocre, half-baked, paranoid, deluded, petty, malicious, small-minded, short-sighted, greedy, uninformed and confused 3rd stringer right-winger opportunist…

    • 274 ChristiMTL
      January 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm

      No way! Not a bad word? lol

    • January 3, 2012 at 10:28 pm

      I was so pissed at Cenk…So I emailed Al Gore 2 days ago..and Tweeted this directly to AL Gore:

      @algore Sir.U Should know what’s like 2 have an election stolen> allowing Ur Network (Cenk) 2 sabotage votes, It’s UN-Democratic #wematter

  76. 278 collegekay
    January 3, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Why is this Army Corporal talking about politics on national tv? I was in ROTC and it’s an absolute NO NO to talk about politics especially in uniform!

    • 279 nintendowii10
      January 3, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      Remember that LT. Army birther who said he wouldn’t deploy because he didn’t believe President Obama to be a citizen? And then there was Lt. Choi who was ripping President Obama on the DADT repeal fight. You’ll be surprised at how quickly these military folks will sell their country out for TV/media fame.

      • 280 Jessica
        January 3, 2012 at 10:00 pm

        Speaking of that little weasal Choi why isn’t he calling out Paul and the plethora of other gay-hating GOP candidates. I mean Paul (and now Santorum) is catching steam this would be the perfect time to call him out for his nasty ways but I highly doubt he’ll do that. He probably even endorse Ron Paul.

      • 281 collegekay
        January 3, 2012 at 10:05 pm

        It’s disgusting!!

    • January 3, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      Huh? What’s happening?

    • 284 jacquelineoboomer
      January 3, 2012 at 10:01 pm

      The military absolutely cannot talk politics – you are right – especially in uniform.

      I used to be a Navy public affairs officer and if a candidate even wanted to visit during an election year to make remarks on an unrelated topic, we’d arrange for him/her to be hosted off-site, so there was no hint of impropriety.

  77. January 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    ObamaCareโ€™s Hidden Trigger Paves The Way For Single Payer
    By Ray Medeiros| January 3, 2012

    Principal Financial Group had already announced late last year that they were leaving the health insurance business, impacting on some 840,000 insured. Another key player in the business, Cigna, has decided to quit the small business market in states like California, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Kansas, Missouri, New Hampshire, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia. In Colorado and Michigan, insurance giant Aetna is bailing on both the small business and individual markets.โ€

    In fact, even further into the MLR requirements is the fact that Aetna is estimating they will have to pay out $100 million dollars to their subscribers in 2012 for failing to meet the 85% threshold. As more and more health insurance companies refuse to use 85% of their billions of dollars in premiums to pay for your medical care, they will drop off the face of the earth and will ultimately pave the way for the American government to expand Medicare for everyone.

    Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/en/obamacare-single-payer

    • 286 Obama Grandmama
      January 3, 2012 at 10:36 pm

      Won’t this dropping out by insurance companies add fuel to the GOP fire and argument against the ACA? Won’t they say the government cannot afford to replace the independent insurance companies?

      • January 3, 2012 at 11:44 pm

        People will have to ask themselves just how much they were being gauged if the insurance companies are refusing to use 85% of the money for providing health care, instead of salaries. If the GOP say this is the basis of their argument, we can simply say this is the free market at work. Health care shouldn’t be driven by profit alone.

  78. January 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Al gore and granholm are pretty hood with the President.
    I like when they are on!

  79. January 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Rev. Al is making a lot of sense. Willard will continue to go farther right, as long as Santorum is in the race. At some point he will go so far right until he will be at the point of no return.

    • 291 nintendowii10
      January 3, 2012 at 10:01 pm

      And yet the media continues to sell the lie that Willard will be the most difficult candidate to beat.

      • 292 dotster3
        January 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm

        Well—the polls have shown Romney doing better against Obama than any of the others.

        • 293 nintendowii10
          January 3, 2012 at 10:17 pm

          True, but that doesn’t take into account all of the ammo Willard has handed OFA and the DNC for his multiple flip flops and as COS pointed out, how Willard is kissing the ass of the far right for votes. Also this is the same Willard who LOST to John McCain in 2008, if McCain could beat Willard, then Obama certainly can!

  80. 294 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Sick Rick leading again, Paul beginning to drop off, down 1% to 22%!

  81. 297 halo
    January 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Ron Paul FADING

  82. January 3, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    New York City Council to vote on ending corporate personhood
    By Eric W. Dolan| Tuesday, January 3, 2012

    The New York City Council is expected to vote Wednesday on a resolution asking Congress to pass an amendment overturning the U.S. Supreme Courtโ€™s controversial decision in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. In 2011, lawmakers introduced four different constitutional amendments to the U.S. House and Senate aimed at overturning the Citizens United ruling. Any constitutional amendment will need to win the support of at least two-thirds of lawmakers in both chambers of Congress.



  83. 304 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    Now we get to hear all the Ronulans sniveling about the great huge conspiracy to bring Paul down!

  84. 305 rikyrah
    January 3, 2012 at 10:09 pm


    I love Rev. Al calling Willard


  85. January 3, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Ed: Santorum is as good as PBO on the stump.

    ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

  86. January 3, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Santormentum!!!!! 41% of the vote in, and he leads Mittens.

  87. January 3, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    Ed is so foolish when he tries the punditing thing: Santorum is as good as Obama on the stump. Fool. Lawrence slapped that nonsense right down. ๐Ÿ˜†

  88. 314 Jenny
    January 3, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Turn out for the republicans is DOWN 10% down from 2008.


    They had the state all to themselves, no Democratic campaigns to draw away registered Independents, and their turn out STILL DROPPED 10%.

    Not that the MSM will notice the drop off in enthusiasm.

    • 315 Jenny
      January 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm

      “So far, reporters who observed that there did not seem to be huge waves of enthusiasm at the events held around Iowa look to be vindicated. ” ~ NYTimes

  89. 316 dotster3
    January 3, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    Omg—-Ed Schultz just said that Santorum is as good as Obama—-in speaking at his events. Ay yi yi.

  90. January 3, 2012 at 10:13 pm


  91. 325 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    Looks like Santorum is going to win Iowa, apparently Iowa Repub caucus is a contest for whomever can thump the bible the hardest, and Paul wasn’t able to do it.

    Let me play a tune on the world’s smallest violin for all the upset Ronulans:

  92. January 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Military budget cuts: Defense Secretary Panetta to introduce revamped defense strategy
    Lillian Rizzo| January 3, 2012 12:10

    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta will present his strategy to help the Pentagon cut billions of dollars from the defense budget this week, The New York Times reported. The review of the nationโ€™s military budget was announced last year by former defense secretary Robert Gates, who said it was important for the public and Congress to fully understand the strategy choices the military faced due to $450 billion in additional reductions through 2021, including about $261 billion through 2017, Bloomberg BusinessWeek reported.

    Panettaโ€™s upcoming plan will provide basis for the fiscal year 2013 Defense Department budget. The exact numbers will come later in January as a part of President Barack Obamaโ€™s budget and will reflect the second year of a 10-year plan to cut $489 billion from defense spending, the Washington Post reported. Panetta has said a reduction of $1 trillion, or 17 percent of the base budget, would be harmful to national security, The Times reported.



  93. January 3, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    Expect Man-Dog to get a big bump in SC and FL in post IA polling.

  94. 330 defytheodds
    January 3, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    If Newt had fought back, he probably would have won b/c Willard knocked Newt down by at least 10 percentage points with all the negative ads he ran against him. And a lot of Newt’s people went to Santorum, and maybe a few to Willard.

  95. 331 desertflower
    January 3, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    He’s Secretariat!!!! Santorum Secretariat!

  96. 332 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    So we have Paul, Bachmann potentially calling it quits after tonight, how much longer will Perry last? Maybe he’s going to pull a Giuliani and bet his entire campaign on Florida? Perry, Santorum AND Gingrich need to start attacking Willard more.

    • 333 Lovepolitics2008
      January 3, 2012 at 10:52 pm

      Paul is NOT going to call it quits after tonight. I don’t remember exactly but didn’t he stay in the race for quite a long time four years ago? Remember, for him it’s not about winning the nomination, it’s about promoting his libertarian ideology. And I think this time, he may be very tempted to go third party.

      I think Backman will quit either tomorrow or after NH and endorse Santorum. Perry will call it quits pretty soon; I seriously wonder if the man is mentally stable…

      As for Gingrich, I don’t know. He’ll certainly stay for a little while, just to spit on Romney who humiliated him in his attack ads.

      Huntsman? A lot depends on New Hampshire, and on what the GOP big money backers ( the real power brokers) will decide to do about him vs Romney…

  97. January 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Just did a little math. About 110K GOP voters will take part in the IA caucuses. IA has a population of 3m. That’s 3% of the population. I so love democracy.

  98. January 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    I’m usually good at these things, but will someone explain ’emoprogs’ to me? I know WHO is being referred to, but is it an anagram?

  99. January 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    10:06 p.m. ET โ€” @davidaxelrod: One of the closest,most exciting contests Iโ€™ve seen in years! Bulls and Hawks tied at 62 with 6 minutes to go. Oh, how are the caucuses?

  100. January 3, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    bj posts

    Carville says that Romney is to the GOPers like a dog with a pill: You keep feeding it to them, and they keep spitting it out.

    Santorum comes out of nowhere, stinks up the place

  101. 344 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Almost 50% in and Sick Rick with just a slight lead over Willard and Paul stuck in third place.

  102. 345 LDS
    January 3, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Thank you guys. You are great doing a wonderful job with this play-by-play of this live version of “The Night On Elm Street”. I still cannot watch MSM. It is difficult to sleep and I wake up miserable. I just want it all to be over and done with. What a bunch of losers, every one of them.

    They are all the same, so let’s finish this circus already!

  103. January 3, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    Bill Kristol on Fox urging Perry to drop out. STFU Bill! Rick is his own, very heterosexual, man.

  104. January 3, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Steve King: “Michele Bachman’s force and energy has taken her this far.”

    What? Second last in Iowa? ๐Ÿ˜†

  105. January 3, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    OK, if Mittens, after spending a small fortune in IA, after campaigning for 5 years through two presidential cycles, if he comes in second, should we put Chuckles Todd on suicide watch?

  106. January 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    I may have missed it, but has anyone heard what the turnout is on the Democratic side?

  107. January 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Ot oh! It’s Al Gore and Jenny Granholm v. Cenk and the young Turks.
    Cenk and the young Turks blame the President for everything, and Jenny and al are refuting everything, like a Lawyer would do.

  108. 366 Proud Former White House Intern
    January 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    I wonder who will be the first to go.

  109. January 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    Iowa Republican Caucus Turnout: Only 120,000

    Fox News reports that turnout for the Iowa caucuses is being estimated at about 120,000.

    This appears to be nearly the same as the Republican caucuses in the 2008 cycle, which were at about 119,000 โ€” and when there were also very busy caucuses on the Democratic side, compared to the uncontested Democratic caucuses this time around.



    Oh dear.

  110. January 3, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Now THIS is a football game! Low scoring, good defense, lots of back and forth. I have no dog in the Sugar Bowl hunt, but it’s entertaining.

  111. January 3, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    Somebody, I think Tweety, brought up a good point: you would never know that Dubya had been the previous republican president — for two terms no less. The GOP simply pretends like he never existed.

  112. 376 desertflower
    January 3, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    I see over at BJ that there were actually 23 caucus goers that actually voted for Herman Cain.

  113. 379 eveingeorgia
    January 3, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    I thought this was cute coming out of Iowa: President Obama wins the Coffee Bean Poll, for real. I guess it’s something that Iowans do.


  114. 381 nintendowii10
    January 3, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    A little over 50% in, Sick Rick lead building, Willard still remaining in second place but beginning to slide, and Paul REALLY beginning to fade off. I wonder what excuses the Ronulans will have for Paul losing to Sick Rick.

  115. January 3, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Whenever Ed opens his mouth, you can see the rest of the panel willing him to shut his mouth. He’s always wrong.

  116. 385 halo
    January 3, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    I like Steve Schmidt! He is actually pretty objective.

    • 386 nintendowii10
      January 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      He is one of the cronies responsible for forcing Sarah Palin onto the John McCain ticket, so he isn’t without skeletons of his own.

      • January 3, 2012 at 10:54 pm

        I thought I remembered he did NOT want Palin on the ticket?? Maybe I am confused. Or, maybe he wanted her at the beginning and when things turned ugly, he realized/admitted his mistake……..????Trying to recall what I heard or read at the time.

      • 389 halo
        January 3, 2012 at 11:18 pm

        doesn’t mean i can’t say that he’s pretty objective and gives good insight into the GOP. he’s not like Karl Rove who will lie lie lie.

    • January 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      He plays the objective role pretty well.

    • January 3, 2012 at 10:47 pm

      They are talking about Romney’s 23% problem. I think it is to funny. He spent all that money with his pacs and Santorum did all of his own stuff and he is beating Romney right now. I am sure Newt is smiling about this.

      • 394 PurpleShoesLA
        January 3, 2012 at 11:45 pm

        Word. Thought I heard Randi say on her show today that $12 million(!) was spent in Iowa by these Klowns. The millions Romney spent in IA negative ads may have kicked Manky to the curb, but apparently it wasn’t enough to buy the top spot in a blow out. Poor, poor Mittens
        B-o-o H-o-o. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

  117. 395 Brit
    January 3, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    A divided GOP is BEAUTIFUL. If he eeks out a win by a few hundred votes, it’s still bad for his campaign. Especially for a man that though he could buy this caucus.

  118. January 3, 2012 at 10:43 pm

    Go Rev. Al! He is hilarious!!!!!!!!

  119. 400 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    January 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Our4thEstate Bobfr
    America – So, the GOP spent 3 yrs harming most Americans in order to destroy it’s 1st black President & instead it destroyed itself. #KARMA


  120. January 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    I’m on the Bachmann press van with a few other reporters and Bachmann staffers— it is very quiet as we ride to her rally…

  121. 407 Arnie
    January 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    Bachmann set to make a statement at 10 PM CST — could this be her swan song?

    • 408 nintendowii10
      January 3, 2012 at 10:53 pm

      As I posted earlier, if she’s smart she’ll throw in the towel and endorse Willard for a shot in the VP pool. Although I could see her endorsing Sick Rick, he’s just as crazy as she is!

  122. January 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm

    They went from 49% to 88% in 2 seconds.

  123. 411 hopefruit2
    January 3, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    MSNBC haz a sad. Tweety is pizzed and frustrated at the GOP. Romney is not doing as well as planned. Ron Paul faded.

  124. 414 dotster3
    January 3, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    Just an inconsequential observation—in fact my husband first noticed—there’s something different in Eugene Robinson’s appearance. Botox for xmas? Something is diff and no wrinkles in the forehead. Maybe just well rested. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • 415 jacquelineoboomer
      January 3, 2012 at 11:04 pm

      Funny how the entire coverage of the Iowa caucuses is so boring (not to speak for you and your husband) that some people are trying to figure out who got Botox. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • 416 dotster3
        January 3, 2012 at 11:13 pm

        yep— haha—–that’s where we’re at—–our attention is wandering. Hmmmmm, he looks different. Do you like his tie? Is that a new set? Rev. Al sure looks a lot thinner. Tweety just got a new blonde touch-up. Sposed to warm up tomorrow, right? etc. etc. etc. Not very exciting, these caucuses.

    • January 3, 2012 at 11:10 pm

      I noticed that, too! I think he also dyed his hair darker.

  125. 418 Jessica
    January 3, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Nothing makes me happier then to see Ron Paulites cry. Paul for 3rd.

  126. 422 collegekay
    January 3, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    With the MSM licking Romney’s ass for months it’s funny how nobody expected Santorum to be competitive in Iowa. Can’t buy all elections Willard. Ha

  127. 423 defytheodds
    January 3, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Not content to leave Iowa to the Republican Party, President Obama held a video conference on Tuesday night with Democratic caucus-goers in the state, urging them to gear up for the general election ahead.

    “Although weโ€™ve passed health care reform, weโ€™ve passed Wall Street reform, there are a lot of forces that want to push back against us and want to undo some of those changes,” the president told onlookers. “And weโ€™re battling millions of dollars of negative advertising and lobbyists and special interests who don’t want to see the change that you worked so hard to fully take root. And that’s why this time out is going to be in some ways more important than the first time out.” โ€ฆโ€ฆ..

    In addition to giving caucus-goers a pep talk, the president took two questions, one from Roseann Cook of Coralville and the other from Carol White of Cedar Rapids.

    Cook asked first whether he still believed in the concepts of hope and change three years into his presidency.
    “In some ways, Iโ€™m actually more optimistic now than I was when I first ran, because weโ€™ve already seen change take place,” he answered. “And part of what 2012 is about is both reminding the American people of how far weโ€™ve traveled and the concrete effects that some of our work has had in terms of making sure that people have health insurance, or making sure that our troops are coming home, or making sure that young people are able to go to college. But part of it is also framing this larger debate about what kind of country are we going to leave for our children and our grandchildren.”

    White followed, asking the president how he responds to people “who say you have not done enough?”
    “I think the main message that weโ€™re going to have in 2012 is that weโ€™ve done a lot but weโ€™ve got a lot more to do, and thatโ€™s why we need another four years to get it all done,” he replied.
    — Sam Stein

  128. January 3, 2012 at 10:58 pm

  129. 431 halo
    January 3, 2012 at 11:02 pm


    • 432 jacquelineoboomer
      January 3, 2012 at 11:12 pm

      Wouldn’t want to waste his new cowboy boots by going home. Plus, it’s an ego thing, dontcha know.

      At this point, he probably doesn’t even know where his car is. This is the most “big time” he’s had in his dull life, I’m sure. Probably is saying in his sleep, “Bring it on!”

  130. 433 collegekay
    January 3, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    A three way fight between Willard, Paul, and Santorum would be golden. Let them drag this thing out as long as possible.

  131. January 3, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    To all my fellow Latinos, we received an early gift for Epiphany. Go Rick S!

  132. 436 collegekay
    January 3, 2012 at 11:07 pm

  133. 438 halo
    January 3, 2012 at 11:09 pm


  134. 444 defytheodds
    January 3, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    Soft support for Willard. 40% of his supporters in caucus say they have reservations about him. For Pete’s Sake!

  135. January 3, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Ron Paul not bowing out. Excellent.

  136. January 3, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    Romney still has votes in the big counties.
    It’s his!

  137. 448 donna dem 4 obama
    January 3, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Holy Moley OFA is FIRED UP

  138. January 3, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Wait. A serving soldier speaking at a Ron Paul rally? WTF?

  139. January 3, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    Just so you know, that corporal will be reemed! Al Qaeda might even use his statements as a recruiting tool.
    He might of just endangered all of us.

    Not kidding!

  140. January 3, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    um isn’t it some unspoken rule that wearing your military uniform while campaigning in frowned upon?

  141. 456 dotster3
    January 3, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    And like clockwork Jon Stewart is back from vacay and is on Obama’s case, right where he left off. Did you know that Obama’s going to round up a whole glob of Americans and lock them up forever? You can definitely put Stewart on the list of those who has Obama “issues”. All the time, every day, always something. President Obama has never pleased him, not even for a minute.

  142. January 3, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    What type of hydraulics are involved in getting Calista Gingrich’s hair like that??? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

  143. January 3, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Ooops, time for a new thread, this one is getting longer than Michele Bachmann’s face tonight:


  144. January 3, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    If Perry and Bachmann weren’t in this race, Romney would totally lose.

  145. 472 eveingeorgia
    January 3, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Bachmann is staying in!!!???!!! If it weren’t for her daily diet of Hate Obama casserole, she’d starve to death.

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