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  1. December 10, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    This debate will to a long way in deciding who the GOP nominee will be. Everybody will be out to take down Newt, if they’re successful then Romney will be the nominee. If Newt is still standing strong than he’ll likely win Iowa meaning he’s in the drivers seat for the nomination.

    I predict Newt goes down in complete flames tonight.

    • December 10, 2011 at 8:02 pm

      Newt is bombastic and has no control.

    • 3 hopefruit2
      December 10, 2011 at 8:04 pm

      Even if Newt doesn’t go down in this particular debate, the GOP establishment will find a way to ensure that their golden boy Romney remains the last one standing. I notice that Newt and 1% Huntsman are having a Lincoln-Douglas style debate on Monday. I’m not sure what Huntsman’s purpose is exactly. To get independent white voters to urge him to form a third party?

      • December 10, 2011 at 8:07 pm

        Newt is popular and has all the media attention. Huntsman is hoping to hitch a ride and get some of that attention in order to boost his own numbers and profile.

      • December 10, 2011 at 8:12 pm

        Huntsman and Gingrich are both served best with Newt winning Iowa and Huntsman doing as well as possible in New Hampshire. A strong Newt means Romney is struggling and his supporters might look elsewhere and Huntsman is the reasonable move in those circumstances, Newt wants Huntsman to do as strong as possible in NH because every extra vote he pulls, it is very likely coming from Romney which pulls Mitt back closer to the pack and second place Newt.

        I don’t think it’s so cut and dry that the GOP power brokers will ensure Romney is the nominee. It might be a case where they need to get behind the frontrunner, and if Newt is standing after tonight and then next Thursday which is the last debate before the caucus votes, all non-front runner candidates will be in desperation mode. If Newt wins Iowa, he’s very likely winning S.Carolina and winning SC means he gets a huge boost heading into Fla. So if the GOP Establishment wants to take out Newt, it has to happen in the next six days or they’ll have no choice but to rally behind him.

        • December 10, 2011 at 8:20 pm

          Not so fast sr. With the new proportional delegate system in most of the early states, less than 40% delegates will be decided by super tuesday. Anyone with money and mind can drag this game well beyond ST. You’re declaring winners too early.

          • December 10, 2011 at 8:27 pm

            Yeah it’s all proportional until April 1st and beyond – but it would have to be a complete knock down drag out like Obama/Clinton in 2008 and Republicans usually don’t have the stomach for that and try to pick a winner early. If Romney wins Iowa and NH it’s over and if Newt wins Iowa, SC and Fla it’s over. Mitt will not go quietly this time of course, so he could try and use his warchest to stick around, but the whole party machine will be out against him. Newt will also be raising crazy money at this stage, so it would be tens of millions of GOP money fighting each other – and you can bet it would be very ugly scorched earth attacks if it heads into April.

            • December 10, 2011 at 8:37 pm

              I think both paul and willard will drag this out since this is their last chance, establishment machine or not. Remember even in 2008, that religious guy whasshisname dogged mccain till the end and the party machine couldn’t do a fuck about it.

              • 13 conlakappa
                December 10, 2011 at 9:39 pm

                Nah, Mittens still has 2016. He can, um, nail down a consistent position or two in the interim and finally become The Inevitable One. See The Mack Daddy for the precedent.

              • 14 Obama Grandmama
                December 10, 2011 at 11:56 pm

                My brother just told me today he is voting for Ron Paul in the Primary and General Election even if he is not on the ballot. I knew he was a Ron Paul fan but I was able to budge him last time around to vote for Barack Obama. He’s unbudgable this time around. My Mom loves Romney and I will try to get her to vote for Obama since she also likes Joe Biden. My other brother will vote for whomever the GOP candidate is. That gives you a picture of my family and what I am up against. The great part is all of my four grown kids and the married ones’ spouses are all Obama supporters too.

      • 15 Lovepolitics2008
        December 10, 2011 at 8:28 pm

        Ok WHO organized this one on one ?

    • December 10, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      I hear paulbots could play spoiler for both newt and willard in IA and he could win there.

      • 17 Obama Grandmama
        December 11, 2011 at 12:02 am

        I kind of worry about Ron Paul as he has so many followers. They may take away potential Obama voters if he runs as a third party candidate and is not the GOP winner. His stands really don’t make sense but many only care about no taxes, or military and want drugs to be legal.

  2. December 10, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    I hope Newt does well and Romney stumbles. I do not want to see Romney unchallenged.
    Bit no…I will not watch, but I will read your comments and follow through the TOD family.

  3. 21 donna dem 4 obama
    December 10, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    TOD Family that was a fantastic game and was well worth me freezing my tookus off. Here is the part that I couldn’t see from the stands.

    http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/play/collegefootball/AxFt8fsGpqwU_ZkEWEwuHZCKE1hx4eYw

  4. 32 24Sass
    December 10, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    I’ll be watching. I like to see them screw up and get pissed at each other. This is the first night Newt will get to stand center stage instead out with the also-rans. My guess is he’ll act like a freakin king of the debaters and pontificate us to death….or close to. πŸ˜‰

    I read that there was some kind of doings today in Iowa and the candidates came to say a few words. But Bachmann was busy (probably getting her make up and hair done) so her husband stood in for her and talked about Obamacare. A total WTF moment in the annals of the Klown Kar central.

    • 33 lovingandlaughing
      December 10, 2011 at 8:07 pm

      Oh my gosh, too silly!

    • 34 desertflower
      December 10, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      As a debater in high school…we had a motto: “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.” Suits Newt to a tee….he’s very baffling…LOVES to hear himself talk.

  5. 35 Mae who love our CIC
    December 10, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    What network hosting the freak show?

  6. December 10, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    ooo, is this the first TOD poll ?

    I voted, well….

  7. 43 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    HEY! that’s my brand of cocoa butter!!!! How did you know???!!?!????

    I’m gonna take a quick nap now so I can be fresh with my popcorn for tonight’s debate….I hear it’s gonna be a dooozy!

  8. December 10, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    I’ll peek in from time to time on the live tweeting. Otherwise I’ll be catching up on Misfits. On Season 2 Ep. 2 now.

  9. December 10, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    I will be watching. I have watched all of them. Pretty good entertainment. I have two hopes. One that Huntsman does move up in the polls and Newt making mittens look like the royal ass he is. Count down.

  10. 48 desertflower
    December 10, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    That was a LOL moment for me…took the survey, scrolled down a little more, and laughed out loud!

  11. 50 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    that cocoa butter picture cracked me up

  12. 51 desertflower
    December 10, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    If ThinkProgress live blogs tonight, I like their analysis. They back up with FACTS what the liars say on stage. πŸ™‚

    http://thinkprogress.org/

    • 52 EDP4BHO
      December 10, 2011 at 8:37 pm

      Hey ds, I just sent an email to Lowes. Thanks for the tip. I just bought Campbell’s soup yesterday and it was so good. Better make my own from now on.

      “Just wow, Lowes. I was thinking of switching my business to you from Home Depot, whose co-founder is staunchly against the President of the US for purely capitalistic reasons. I guess now, after finding you have joined in the discrimination of β€œAmericans” whose religion is of their God-given right to choose, i.e. Muslims, I shall return to doing business with the local small businesses. Thanks for the heads up. Will never step foot in your store again. Have you even considered all the β€œMuslims” who will take their money elsewhere? Really dumb and cowardly move on your part.”

      • December 11, 2011 at 12:04 am

        I’ve always heard Lowes was a Blue store and when I read that I was really disappointed. Thank you for contacting them, ED. Their explantion was a little sketchy via ThinkProgress, I thought.

        America needs to know about the Muslims who aren’t terrorists..just like there are Christians who really follow Christ and don’t use his name to think they’re hiding their hypocrisy. They’re not.

  13. 54 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Oh I’m definitely watching. I want to watch them tear each other apart on the stage or failing that, at least give Romney some hell. When he gets flustered, dude almost has a mental breakdown and that’s hilarious. Romney’ll most likely be going after Newt as he’s been told to punch down and stop looking as though he doesn’t want the nomination or that he’s entitled to it. Hopefully, Newt doesn’t implode and either subtly attacks Romney, or rises above the fray (as much as he can; knowing his loose loose mouth). We need Newt to do well so that he wins in Iowa, South Carolina, and Florida and makes Romney uber desperate. I want this thing to drag out until the convention floor so that establishment GOP will be uber nervous at what the teaparty delegates will do.

    • 55 hopefruit2
      December 10, 2011 at 8:50 pm

      Yup – can’t wait! Romney will go after Mitt for sure, but I also think he’ll try to shift the topic to PBO by pushing platitudes and talking points about “needing a President who can LEAD.”

  14. December 10, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    I will check in on it every now and then. I know it’s gonna be a hot mess, as per usual. I’d love to see Willard try to take Leroy down a notch, because Leroy is like a rabid raccoon when backed into a corner — he’ll do WHATEVER it takes to get out of it. Maybe wacky old Paul will provide some entertainment. I don’t expect much from the rest of the Clown Crew.

  15. December 10, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    My bet is that it’s gonna newt-willard-paul trifecta. Rest will be ignored.

  16. December 10, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Fox Newz Shocked that their polls says Pres.Obama would win the next election –

    • December 10, 2011 at 8:37 pm

      is this an early April’s Fools? What in the world is Faux snorting that they cited a poll showing that PBO would win the election hands down in 2012?

    • 61 EDP4BHO
      December 10, 2011 at 8:40 pm

      I wonder how many think he’ll win only because they know he’s the best, as compared to those who would actually vote for him themselves. πŸ˜‰

    • 62 Ann_T
      December 10, 2011 at 9:20 pm

      Maybe they are doing it to rally the base. Trying to send the right wing nut jobs into a frenzy at the thought of 4 more years of an African American president. Especially since the current crop of rethug candidates are not exciting the base.

  17. 63 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 10, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    I just got home right on time for the FREAK SHOW. I will watch for the first time because I want NEWT to take down Willard. Chips thanks for those lovely pictures, and if I may ask, what’s up with the Cocoa butter picture?

  18. December 10, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    richard adams at guardian

    welcome to live-blogging coverage of the GOP presidential debate in Des Moines, as Mitt Romney takes off the gloves against Newt Gingrich.

    That’s our hope at least – although when Mitt Romney takes the gloves off it’s usually to reveal yet another pair of gloves underneath.

    πŸ™‚

  19. 76 meabloom
    December 10, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I actually never get to watch because by the time it airs I’m asleep. NO work nor class tomorrow so I guess I’m tuning in.
    And I actually prefer Shea butter. Thats just me.

    Obama/Biden2012

  20. December 10, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I decided to take a chance on “When We Were Soldiers” but will be reading your comments.

  21. 78 donna dem 4 obama
    December 10, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    OMG I am just catching up and I just read HZ’s comment about the cocoa butter legs. I’m laughing so hard that tears are streaming down my face. Who would of thought that our HZ had it in her to aspire to the naughty mat. LHM πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

  22. December 10, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Lawd, all I keep thinking about when I think about cocoa butter is Katt William’s joke about Michelle Obama smelling like Motions hair conditioner and cocoa butter (and therefore, being a real black woman). I was gonna link a YouTube vid, but he may be entirely too much for TOD. Trust me, it was hilarious. πŸ˜†

  23. December 10, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Drinking game has already started at RA blog.

    Every time one of them calls Obama a socialist, take a shot.

    πŸ™‚

  24. 103 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Every time Rom-NO or any of the clowns utters the phrase to the effect of “we need a president who can LEAD” we will drink or donate $1 to PBO’s campaign.

  25. 104 collegekay
    December 10, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Chips I emailed you πŸ˜‰

  26. 115 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    PRE CLOWN DEBATE QUIZ

    QUESTION# 1: Can anyone say in five sentences or less what is Santorum’s plan to create jobs?

  27. December 10, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    RA blog

    Ron Paul’s campaign is even making in-roads among Iowa’s Christian conservative voters. Ewen found some at a Ron Paul event in Boone:

    Among them was Joany Gorman, 49, mother of four and a home-schooler. Asked why she supported Paul, she pointed to the Cookbook. “The reason I support Ron Paul is because I believe Jesus Christ is the one true God,” she said. She had never heard of him before this election but will vote for him on caucus day.

    The repub ‘base’ is jesus fucking crazy.

    • 122 LOL
      December 10, 2011 at 8:52 pm

      But yet they are the most hateful of the bunch. “I like your Christ…I do not like your Christians..they are so unlike your Christ”. I always want to ask one of these Jesus Freaks if they believe that they will get into heaven with all the nastiness they show the less fortunate and people that are not politically aligned with them

      • 123 FTL
        December 10, 2011 at 9:11 pm

        I am sure they do LOL . Obviously they don’t read the Bible carefully. In revelation Jesus will tell many who say that they preached in his name and cast out demons to go away and calls them evil doers. He tells them that they did not cloth or feed him when he had nothing, or visit him when sick or in jail. They will ask when was he hungry, naked in jail or ill. He will say that what they have done to the least of this is what they did to him. Boy are they going to get a big surprise.

      • 124 nathkatun7
        December 10, 2011 at 10:49 pm

        All those nasty people talking about going to heaven might end up having a rude awakening when they find themselves in hell. Especially those who lie, cheat, and hate their neighbors.

    • December 10, 2011 at 9:01 pm

      what the hell kind of reason is that? are we electing a president or hiring a new pastor for church?

  28. 127 desertflower
    December 10, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    I think that this is a fair comparison! Ohio State Univ. band vs. ? Got to watch this for the incredible, meticulous precision of the OSU band. Amazing! The rest, is just funny…

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/12/10/video-musical-compare-and-contrast-of-president-obama-vs-the-gop-presidential-sic-candidates/

  29. 132 Ladyhawke
    December 10, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    ANOTHER DRINKING GAME OPTION FOR THE DEBATE

    How many times will Newt Gingrich say “Fundamental” or Fundamentally?

    Fundamentally Hilarious

    ===================================================

    In New York magazine, the clever Dan Amira captures the essence of Newt Gingrichβ€˜s windbaggery–the self-promoting adverb that makes the speaker look like an intellectual. Profoundly, deeply, frankly are frequently padders of Newt’s rhetoric, but by far Newt’s favorite word–the crutch without which he cannot walk a thought past his lips–is fundamentally. Examining Gingrich’s speeches since 2007, Amira found 418 unique uses of fundamental or fundamentally.

    ====================================================

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2011/12/fundamentally_hilarious033960.php#

  30. 134 halo
    December 10, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    MUPPET SHOW TIME

  31. 135 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Oh great! Our first Michele Bachmann repeal Obama care. *Takes a shot of tequila.*

  32. December 10, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    I’m flip flopping like Mitt and will watch the debate out of morbid curiosity.

  33. 137 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 10, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    I feel like puking looking at them

  34. 138 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    First Gingrich lie of the #IowaDebate. Says under Clinton they created jobs by not raising taxes. So….how did they get the 23M jobs. Clinton did raise taxes!

  35. 140 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Diane Sawyer is doing some serious arse-kissing with her “saluting” these clowns just for running?

  36. December 10, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    I wonder if Richard Adams of the Guardian volunteered to cover the GOP trainwreck for the duration or if he drew the short end of the stick.

  37. 142 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 9:08 pm

  38. 144 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Sheesh…MR. Rick Perry, your idol GWB initiated TARP.

  39. 145 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 10, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Do people believe this?

  40. 146 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Rick Perry just said he could diagram a map. This is the moron who doesn’t know that we have 9 SC judges.

  41. 149 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 10, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Win Win Win by repealing obamacare.

  42. December 10, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    The Guardian’s Ewen MacAskill has spent the day in Iowa – and went to an election meeting in Des Moines organised by a veterans group:

    Only Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry turned up. Michele Bachmann cancelled just 20 minutes before, maybe wanting to spend the time preparing for the debate or maybe someone told her the event was sparsely attended: she sent her husband Marcus instead.

    Having spent three days in Iowa at various election events, there seems to be little enthusiasm for any of the candidates and there did not appear to be much at this event either. I sat next to a WW2 navy guy exasperated with candidates on offer, muttering “God damn” at various points made by Gingrich, Santorum and Perry.

    Santorum said he had served … for eight years on the Senate armed services committee. As Santorum was leaving, the vet blocked the aisle and told him if he wanted bloodshed in Iran, he should put on a uniform and go there.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/11/gop-presidential-debate-iowa-live

  43. December 10, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    crazy bachmann repeal everything obama has done. uugghh

    • 155 anniebella
      December 10, 2011 at 10:10 pm

      Bachmann is a dope. It is clear if Marcus wore the pants in the family he would tell his doppey wife it is time to come home.

    • 156 anniebella
      December 10, 2011 at 10:22 pm

      I can imagine Bachmann and Marcus in the act, you know doing the do, and Michele Bachmann is saying yes, yes, yes, and Marcus think he is laying it on good, but then he hears Michele Bachmann saying Yes, yes, I’m going to re-peal Obamacare.

  44. 159 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Dianne Sawyer is so damn impressed by Romney’s citing of a figure. Anyone can cite a figure.

  45. December 10, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Gawd, I gave to a shot. I couldn’t watch fro more than 3 minutes. Why is diame fucking sawyer pontificating instead of just asking the fucking questions ?

  46. 163 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Bachmann tells a whopper of a lie. Says payroll tax cut will cost SS fund $112B. Bloody liar. #IowaDebate

    • 164 LOL
      December 10, 2011 at 9:17 pm

      I just want to know who the hell is Bawack Obrama? LOL Mittens now realizes the people he laid off at Bain are “real people”.

  47. December 10, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Yep Willard, all those people you made unemployed in your Bain Capitol days were “real people” too πŸ˜‰

  48. 167 meabloom
    December 10, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Oh No He DIDN’T!!

  49. 168 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Romney is a lying mother fawker

  50. 169 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Santorum is a liar on social security.

  51. December 10, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    RA

    Bachmann also makes a naked grab for Herman Cain’s remaining 12 supporters.

    Rick Santorum’s answer appears to be an attempt to win some sort of bet about who can mention the largest number of small towns in Iowa.

    Diane Sawyer says that of the candidates only Romney answered the question in terms of jobs created in the first four years of their presidency. Santorum jumps in to blather on about petri dishes, something.

  52. 171 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Willard is afraid to go after Newt. He’s about Obama this-Obama that…he has received his script from his GOP establishment friends.

  53. 172 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Ooooooh Romney just cracked a joke about PBO and his golf clubs. Pat yourself on the back Willard; you dumbass.

  54. December 10, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    I’m watching and it seems I’m not missing anything.

  55. 174 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Maybe Diane is setting up for snuffleluffagus (sp).

    My hope is he will counter some of the BS with facts and force them to respond.

  56. December 10, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Hah!

  57. December 10, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    RA

    Mitt Romney is looking particularly tanned tonight. He reels off a seven-point plan for creating jobs, which sound like they would create about seven jobs total.

    Ron Paul is next up, who embarks on a “Ludwig von Mises for dummies” economics lecture. It’s the Federal Reserves fault, basically.

    “I can diagram on a map the problem we have in America today, it’s a direct line from Washington to Wall Street,” says Rick Perry. Vote Perry for a man who can find places on maps.

  58. December 10, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Romney actually makes me feel physically ill, what a repulsive piece of shit.

    • 178 LOL
      December 10, 2011 at 9:29 pm

      He is a weasel….that place is stocked with Ron Paulites. What the fark was that rambling monologue Paul just delivered? Wait a minute Bachmann was a 5 yr old businesswoman—was she hustling crayons and lollipops in Kindergarten?

    • 179 Pamela
      December 10, 2011 at 9:33 pm

      I know, Chips, my entire solar plexus gets cramps when I see him in live footage, I can barely handle still shots of him… And I seldom am negatively affected by anyone! He is such a phoney!

      • December 10, 2011 at 9:36 pm

        Exactly Pamela, it’s the fact that he’s such a fake …. makes me ill.

          • 182 Pamela
            December 10, 2011 at 10:17 pm

            I guess the basis of my reaction is that I simply cannot believe the greater majority of people don’t see right through this non-entity. It saddens me that some seem to take him seriously.

        • 183 Obama Grandmama
          December 11, 2011 at 12:20 am

          I know! Mitt has such a fake forced smile while his eyes are saying get me outta here. I would freak out if Mitt were standing right next to me with that gaze and smile. I know Rick Perry mentioned it once and I thought for once Perry has said something that makes sense.

    • 184 anniebella
      December 10, 2011 at 10:25 pm

      I honestly don’t know how you all can stand to watch Romney or any of the clowns. God bless you all.

    • 185 Cha
      December 11, 2011 at 12:43 am

      Me too, Chips. And, I have never heard him actually speak..just his pic and his quotes are enough to send me scrolling really fast so I don’t have to look at his mitt.

  59. 186 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Merit base my arse

    Romney has begun to stutter

  60. 188 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    oh SNAP

    Romney – where do you disagree with Gingrich?

  61. 190 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    UH OH!!!! It’s on now!!!

  62. December 10, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Newt v Mitt, it’s on!!!!!

  63. December 10, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    TPM:

    Feel like Perry’s becoming a sort of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern type figure in this debate play. Comic relief, vaguely ridiculous, sort of sinister but not much.

  64. 193 halo
    December 10, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    HAHAHAHAHHA NEWT JUST TRASHED MITT

  65. 199 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    BOOM! Gingrich sucker punches Romney. “The only reason you aren’t a career politician is bc you lost to Romney in 1994!” Ouch!

  66. 205 halo
    December 10, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    NEWT CAN SPIN ANYTHING

  67. December 10, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Whoooops, dry mouth Mitt? πŸ˜†

  68. 207 Ann_T
    December 10, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    I can’t watch. Anyway, the news & Sunday morning shows will talk about it nonstop. So I’ll hear about what happened.

  69. 208 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Now here’s goes the “special math”

  70. 209 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Gingrich told Romney if he’d been a career politician he’d have been in govt for over 17 yrs changing stuff.

  71. December 10, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    They’re eating each other alive, wooooooooooot!!!!

  72. December 10, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Shit just got real. πŸ˜† Y’all know Leroy has no shame. Go, Leroy, Go!

  73. 214 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Strategic advice

    Paul and Bachman are beating up Newt

  74. 215 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Ron Paul just hit Gingrich w/Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae line. Hahaha

  75. 216 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Bachmaan — she is 55 years old and spent 50 years in real life building a career???? wha

  76. December 10, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Gingrich narrows his eyes and shoots back:

    Let’s be candid the only reason you didn’t become a career politician is you lost to Teddy Kennedy in 1994.

    Ouch! “Just a second, just a second,” wibbles Romney. But Gingrich keeps going and smacks down all of Romney’s points. And wins a big round of applause.

    If this was boxing fight the ref would have stepped in by now.

    In his response, Romney falls back on babbling about numbers.

    “With regards to the idea that if I had beaten Ted Kennedy I’d have been a career politician, that’s probably true,” says Romney, making a joke that if he had been good enough at football he would have been in the NFL.

    But that “that’s probably true” line is just made for an anti-Romney attack ad.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/11/gop-presidential-debate-iowa-live

  77. 220 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    She led 40,000 to Washington to protest against Obamacare

  78. December 10, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    St. Ronnie must be looking on sadly. His 11th Commandment is being honored more in the breach than the observance.

    (Hah, my second Hamlet reference!)

  79. 222 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Now Bachmann is swinging left and right. Equating Newt & Romney as one and the same.

  80. 223 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Newt is PISSED at Bachmann baby

  81. December 10, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    RA

    So, asks George Stephanopoulos, “Who is the most conservative of you all?” (I paraphrase.)

    Offered the chance to take a shot at Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney flops and opts to attack Barack Obama instead. But then: “Speaker Gingrich and I have a lot of places where we disagree…” says Romney. Why don’t you name them? asks Stephanopoulos. “Er…” pauses Romney uncomfortably, before the software kicks in and he names some batty idea of Gingrich’s about building bases on the moon.

  82. 225 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    “President Obama knows me” — Bachmaan.

    • 226 Pamela
      December 10, 2011 at 9:44 pm

      Yeah, yeah, sure he does, dearie. Hee.

    • 227 relellit
      December 10, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      In her dreams; Michelle Bachmann is delusional. Excuse me, did Mitt just flip again on Israel? Sorry , Mitt Newt is a not a bonafide historian until he corrects the history of the Palestinians. News flash: Reagan got a little help; Gorbachev wanted to dismantle the Soviet Union anyhow due to it’s weakness. But, you can’t tell them to stop paying homage to a president who had dementia so badly , his wife would whisper in his ear during his speeches so he could remember. He’s their Patron Saint.

      The Myth of Ronald Reagan

      http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ronald_Reagan/Ronald_Reagan_Myth.html

  83. 228 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    I mentioned this on another thread but Michele Bachman looks ill – like she just recovered from a bout with the flu or is extremely tired and/or depressed.

  84. 230 conlakappa
    December 10, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Can someone write instructions again on how to change the background? The white on black is increasingly brutal on the eyes. I’m in Explorer on FIOS. Thanks.

  85. 231 meabloom
    December 10, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Girl he(POTUS) don’t know you. He’s not even thinking about you.

  86. December 10, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Bachmann says she’d beat the President in a debate.

    πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

  87. 240 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Romney is a LIAR! PBO did not cut medicare benefits for seniors.

  88. 243 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Perry backs Bachmann – she was right. It IS Newt-Romney.

    lolol

  89. 244 LOL
    December 10, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Perry is stunned– Shocking!!!

  90. December 10, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Aw, poor Willard, they’re all picking on him πŸ˜₯

  91. 252 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Rick Perry just said he’s stunned. He’s been stunned since the day he learned how to count up to three and can’t go past that.

  92. 254 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Now they’re all turning on each other – slings and arrows – ping, ping, ping

  93. December 10, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Eh, is Rick Santorum there?

  94. 261 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    no he didn’t say $10,000 bet.

  95. December 10, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Ooooops, Mitt is sweating just a little ….. this is a pathetic performance by him, game-changer?

  96. 263 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Well, what do ya know – both Perry & Romney can read a book!

  97. December 10, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Is it me or is tonight like a Dem debate of yore in that the candidates are tearing each other apart? The Dem debates of 2008 were nowhere near as bloody. I love it.

  98. 268 Pamela
    December 10, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    She is ill, mentally ill.

  99. 269 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Romney just offered Perry a $10K bet. How out of touch is this moron? That’s someone’s income he’s so cavalier about. Jeez.

  100. 273 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    there goes Santorum Chips.

    He said in 1994 he was a conservative.

    So that leads to the next question — what are you now?

    Oooohhhh I agree with Michelle. She has been a consistent conservative. But she has been fighting and losing. I lead and I win.

    I have the consistent track record.

  101. December 10, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    LOLOL… picture on Guardian live blog, with the caption: Tonight’s GOP debate, directed by Tarantino

    • 275 conlakappa
      December 10, 2011 at 10:57 pm

      Two of Richard Adams’s tweets:

      “In Iowa, WW2 vet tells Santorum if he wants war in Iran he should ‘put on a uniform and go there’ ”

      “Live blogging the Gingrich v Romney v Ron Paul v common sense GOP debate in Iowa”

  102. 277 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Bachmann – I am consistent. I will REPEEEAAALLLLLL OBAMACARE.

  103. December 10, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Anybody remember that dude, Herman something-or-other?

  104. December 10, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Literally laughing out loud at pro-Romney woman on ABC:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/live-news-6046305

    Is she for real???

  105. December 10, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    RA

    Now Rick Santorum attacks Michele Bachmann – and no one cares. A big hook should come out and whip Santorum out of there.

    9.38pm: Now its Rick Perry versus Mitt Romney going at it – with at some point in there Mitt Romney offering to make a $10,000 bet with Perry over something Romney may or may not have said about healthcare. “I’m not in the gambling trade,” says Perry. Also, $10,000 to Romney – assets about $250m – is like a fiver to you or me.

    If you want an image of this debate so far, think of the final scenes of Reservoir Dogs, with all the principals aiming guns at each other. And you know that everyone is going to get a lead injection.

    Love it that these punks ate killing each other.

    • 283 Obama Grandmama
      December 11, 2011 at 12:37 am

      Now you are helping me want to go back in and watch the rest of the debate. I couldn’t take any more Obama bashing when I turned it off but would love to watch them bash one another.

    • 284 Cha
      December 11, 2011 at 12:56 am

      Brawawawaa..RA had me at Reservoir Dogs! Lol.

  106. December 10, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Hee. RA:

    OK so Rick Santorum has made a convincing case why he’s a better candidate … than Michele Bachmann. Whee.

    Ad break! But not before Diane Sawyer gives the candidates a more-in-disapointment-than-in-anger telling off for breaking the rules.

    Here’s an ad for Fred Thompson, the comedy candidate of the 2008 GOP race. Now he’s touting “reverse mortgages”. Rick Santorum, that could be you in four years time.

  107. 287 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    YIPES!
    God and fidelity….

  108. December 10, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Crikey, Perry on ‘infidelity’? Ouch!!!!!!!! This is UGLY!!!

  109. 294 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Look at Newt’s face

    I can’t wait for his turn

  110. 295 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Romney just shot himself in the foot. That 10K bet is what will be the takeaway from the debate.

    Perry just took a dig at Gingrich. “If you cheat on your wife; you’ll cheat on your business partner.” Ouch!

  111. 296 meabloom
    December 10, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Oh!
    IT’S. ABOUT. TO. GO . DOWN!

  112. December 10, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    newt is the only ‘infidel’ on that stage, isn’t he ?

  113. 300 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    President Obama’s PAC came out and attacked Mittens?

    What?

    Wasn’t he the one who lied on PO? And then dems slapped the taste out of his mouth using his own words?

  114. 301 rikyrah
    December 10, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    9.46pm: And lo, there is already a #romneybets hashtag trending on Twitter.

    LOL

  115. 302 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    For fucks sake Michele Bachmann needs to stop saying Obama Care. My liver is bitch slapping me for every shot of tequila or vodka.

  116. December 10, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    There’s Marcus. πŸ˜•

  117. 311 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Newt has been forgiven by God but what about the American people?

  118. 313 collegekay
    December 10, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    I’m not watching the debate but seriously? Willard bet 10k. He’s an out of touch sleaze,

    WWR is right.

  119. 315 rikyrah
    December 10, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    9.38pm: Now its Rick Perry versus Mitt Romney going at it – with at some point in there Mitt Romney offering to make a $10,000 bet with Perry over something Romney may or may not have said about healthcare. “I’m not in the gambling trade,” says Perry. Also, $10,000 to Romney – assets about $250m – is like a fiver to you or me.

  120. 316 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Wow. Newt actually handled the infidelity question as well as he could.

  121. 318 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    wait is Gingrich now reversing his stance yet again on Immigration? I thought he walked back this approach a few weeks ago?

  122. 319 relellit
    December 10, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Yes, I am watching the freak show. It is a twofer to-nite; SNL & the GOP Freak Show. Wooow. Who wants to wager?

    1. Perry will have 3 brain freezes.

    2. Romney will grow a third head.

    3.Micheal Bachmann will have her usual orgamistic rant by getting stuck on President Obama’s name.

    4.Newt will get his history wrong again including his own personal history. By the way, the Palestinians were in the Ottoman before the Ottoman Empire was the Ottoman Empire. It was the Palestinians land which was invade by the Ottomans. A black Muslim, I can’t remember his name, in 641 AD conquered Egypt. After the death of Muhameed, the eruption came about in Middle East, India, and even Spain where the Jewish people were. The Spanish people re- conquered their land in the 1400s; and kicked the Jewish people, & Arabs out .

    5. Santorum will get frothy at the mouth .

    6. Ron Paul will shake his withered little finger at the Feds and the Military Industrial Compound Then he’ll give that crazy talk about how good it used to be in the 18th century.

    Good to see them beat up on the fat, lying, gaseous wind bag, & fake historian, Newt Gingrich.

    Thus far Micchell Bachman has displayed her OCD. Gawd, taking 400, 000 thousand brainwashed people to the Capital is really nothing to tout. She should tout what she for her district while in Congress . Opps, she can’t. She didn’t do anything. She has not mentioned President Obama’s name; yet!!!

    Can’t believe Newt is standing there lying about forgiveness and rehabilation. He doesn’t want to talk about the child support he didn’t pay. I wonder if his kids forgive him?

  123. 320 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Romney’s view on immigration is so unrealistic!!!!!!!

  124. 321 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Bob just tweeted this: So, Newt’s a grandfather – wonder how many of his grand children he actually knows given his philandering. #ZEROGOP2012 #iowadebate

    Oh snap!. Bob. Good one. *drops mic and walks away* πŸ˜†

    • December 10, 2011 at 10:05 pm

      Ouuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhh!!! πŸ˜†

      • 323 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
        December 10, 2011 at 10:21 pm

        Glad the two of you liked it πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

        Also:

        Our4thEstate Bobfr
        If you hear a Republican not use God as an excuse for being a liar, a philanderer, & thief you’ll know the LSD worked & you’re trippn …

        #PRESSON

        • 324 nathkatun7
          December 10, 2011 at 11:30 pm

          Bobfr, you are the best! I hope you and UT keep up the pressure with those twitts challenging the idiots in the media!

  125. December 10, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Rick Perry just used the word “intellectual” in a sentence? Seriously.

  126. 327 LOL
    December 10, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    LOL– Perry said intellectual…The Word, not something intellectual.

  127. December 10, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Wow, every Palestinian is a terrorist? Gingrich, you ****ing scumbag.

    • December 10, 2011 at 10:23 pm

      And everyone named Newton Leroy Gingrich is a nasty, bigoted liar. The man is a destructive menace who has no business being taken seriously by any political party. The GOP should hang its head in shame if that feeling were still possible for a party that has lost all sense and reason.

  128. 333 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Gingrich is a scumbag. How does one callously call the Palestinians an invented people and say that pretty much all of them are terrorists! And the audience members actually applauded. Sick!

    • December 10, 2011 at 10:07 pm

      UT, we must have been twins separated at birth!

    • December 10, 2011 at 10:09 pm

      The thing is that I think this will shore up Jewish support for PBO. Most Jews will see that a Gingrich presidency will mean a general war in the ME, and Israel being either swamped or resorting to nuking everyone around them. Which, you know, most American Jews don’t want.

    • 340 FiredUpInCA
      December 10, 2011 at 10:18 pm

      We’re born human, into our respective countries, which are inventions that pre-date us. So arguably, all people are an invented people. I would like to hear Native Americans’ perspective on Gingrich’s notion about which people have legitimate claims on a land and which people have invented claims on a land.

      • 341 Pamela
        December 10, 2011 at 10:38 pm

        Nicely put, FiredUpInCA, well said. Someone should tweet that.

      • 342 nathkatun7
        December 11, 2011 at 12:02 am

        Bravo, FiredUpInCA! I think Gingrich should be asked this question: Who are the legitimate owners of America both North and South? Surely not the English, the Scotch, the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, the Polish, the Norwegians, the French, the Spanish,the Portuguese, and the Africans. More importantly, do Native Americans who adopted Catholicism, and speak Spanish and French, or adopted various protestant sects, and speak English, cease to be Native Americans? For a person who claims to be a historian, Newt Gingrich shows that he knows very little about the history of West Asia (Middle East). Yet, he is held up as the intellectual of the Republican party!

  129. 343 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    These people are CRAZY!

    I’m so sick of Romney telling half truths – UUGGHHHHHHHH

  130. December 10, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Did Romney just call Israeli PM “Bibi Yahoo”?

  131. December 10, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    RA

    The moderators tee up Perry, Santorum and Paul – all monogamously married for a million years – to answer first. Sadly no one wants to mention the Three Mrs Gingrichs.

    Ron Paul manages to turn the question into fidelity to the Constitution, and wins applause.

  132. 350 desertflower
    December 10, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Romney calls him Bibi…like he KNOWS him!

  133. 354 halo
    December 10, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    NEWT IS WHIPPING MITT

  134. 355 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Gingrich is an idiot and a bigot.

  135. 356 LOL
    December 10, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Oh SHIT OH SHIT NEWT JUST BITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTCHSLAPPED MITT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  136. 357 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    oh lord. Bachmann is an idiot.

  137. 359 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    WTF is this? Who wants to be Bebe Netanyahu’s best friend and kiss his ass. Jeez Romney & Gingrich

  138. December 10, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Post at RA blog

    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while…the Republicans have found a whole basket of nuts…

  139. December 10, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Ah, Santorum – I thought he’d left.

  140. 363 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Santorum has no idea what he is talking about. He has no sense of foreign policy.

  141. December 10, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Part of me is very, very, very sad that Herb isn’t there tonight to discuss foreign policy. πŸ˜₯

  142. 366 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Bachmann is such a fucking liar. She says the Palestinians preach hate. She preaches hate of LGBT all day everyday. Bloody hypocrite.

  143. 368 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    I know Perry didn’t say that President Obama created the problems in the middle east.

    It all started in 2009. . . .he actually said trouble in the Middle East started in 2009.

  144. 372 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Oh No, Perry and foreign policy

  145. 373 LOL
    December 10, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Oh shit…Rick Perry is counting again

  146. 374 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    And those too morons leading the debates didn’t push back on any of that.

  147. December 10, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Rick Perry: “The President had two choices ….. actually he had three.”

    He’s still struggling with that one, two, three thing.

  148. 377 meabloom
    December 10, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Aww,, look at ’em standing up for one another. It’s so cute. Now Please Shutup!

  149. 378 bonkers
    December 10, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Oh my goodness. For the first time, I’ve spent some time actually watching this Repub car wreck, and I quite literally cannot believe how horrendous these “people” are. And Diane Sawyer and Georgie-poorgie let them just ramble on incoherently with no challenge whatsoever?!?

    I used to think I would never see anything so ridiculous as George W. Bush in a debate again, and yet these evil people are far beyond Shrub on the insanity scale. Bob Dole used to seem like a moron to me, but he seems like Einstein compared to these mental midgets, and people are clapping. Jeezus…I’m in shock. Literally.

    • December 10, 2011 at 10:21 pm

      It’s spectacularly awful bonkers, isn’t it? Most of the time I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, but it is seriously depressing that this is the best the GOP can offer America – and the world.

      • December 10, 2011 at 10:27 pm

        The world is listening to these people. They’re all seriously embarrassing the United States, the entire country. They should be dumped in a deep lake somewhere.

        • December 10, 2011 at 10:35 pm

          Don’t worry Joan, I honestly think most of the world knows the difference between these nutjobs and the smart Americans – like the President πŸ˜‰

          I keep thinking of when Bush last visited Ireland – it was the biggest security operation in the history of the state, he wasn’t allowed anywhere near the people because of the anti-war protests.

          And then there was this:

    • 382 Cha
      December 11, 2011 at 1:05 am

      Diane Sawyer should be ashamed of her damn self. What are the chances they or whomever moderates the General debate has their fangs out for P Obama?

  150. December 10, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    You guys are killing me. It’s much more fun and way easier on the nervous system to get the gist of it all here, so I’m super grateful to everyone who has the stomach to sit through it. Can anyone remember a more hopeless group of presidential candidates? Empty-headed, deluded, clueless, nasty, repugnant–the whole bunch of them.

  151. 384 collegekay
    December 10, 2011 at 10:16 pm

  152. 389 desertflower
    December 10, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Amy Holmes and Ron Suskind can eat sh**…OMG…He’s redeemed! He’s a Phoenix!

  153. December 10, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Romney says: “I think the Speaker [Gingrich] made a mistake saying the Palestinans were an invented people.” Gingrich violently shakes his head. Some chins wobble.

  154. December 10, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Ah, I was wondering who that not-very-smart woman was on ABC: Amy Holmes …. a news anchor on Glenn Beck’s GBTV. πŸ™„

  155. 395 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    How the heck is this clown bunch going to answer a question of personal financial struggle? Bachmann banked over $1M last year. Gingrich has raked in over $1.6M from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and has a revolving account at Tiffany’s. Romney just added acres and acres of space in his CA mansion.

  156. December 10, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    RA:

    Romney comes back at him, and drops the mention that he worked with Netanyahu at Boston Consulting. “I’m not a bomb-thrower, rhetorically or literally,” says Romney. Gingrich smiles like someone who has been offered a large plate of shit to eat.

    That was Romney’s best play: subtle but underlined his differences with Gingrich: that he’s got a big mouth who says dumb things and then claims he’s just got the big ideas.

    That’ll be Newt’s downfall, either in the primaries or the general. He says shit that scares normal people.

  157. 397 FiredUpInCA
    December 10, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Romney 2012. Misleading from behind.

  158. 402 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 10, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    I am on Twitter slamming Mitt Romney. Go Newt 😯 I will ask for forgiveness later.

  159. December 10, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    The Guardian’s Chris McGreal – a former Jerusalem correspondent – disputes Gingrich’s fanciful Palestinian textbook claim:

    The Gingrich Palestinian textbook claim is rubbish. Even the Israelis own official criticisms of the books mostly centre on questions of recognition of Israel.

    This corrupt to the core mofo will start another ME war, if elected. You betcha.

  160. 410 LOL
    December 10, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Dedicated to Herman “Herb” Cain

  161. 411 Ladyhawke
    December 10, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Birthers, Baggers and Blowhards

    I have never seen a more pathetic bunch of losers. The thought of any one of them being the leader of the free world is absolutely horrifying. The implosion of the Republican Party continues at breakneck speed.

  162. 413 LOL
    December 10, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    WTF is Rick Perry talking about? He is like a dumb version of Bush.

  163. 416 Pamela
    December 10, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Hey y’all! Am having a glass of wine here on Chips “birthday party” blog tonight! So much fun!

  164. 419 meabloom
    December 10, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    I think I missed it?? Did Perry answer the question??

  165. 420 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Romney – LIAR, LIAR! PANTS ON FIRE!!!! How about Bain Capital?

  166. December 10, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Santorum was born with a mother and a father. Weren’t we all? πŸ˜•

  167. December 10, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Michele Bachmann is still a “cloupon cipper”. That’s nice.

  168. December 10, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Every time Stephanopoulos mentions “Yahoo” I assume he’s talking about the Israeli PM. Thanks Mitt.

  169. 434 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Romney pretends that he understands the middleclass. So much so that he made a $10K bet with Rick Perry. He fucking dodged the war and pretends that he faced financial struggle while helping poor people in his church. His rich daddy paid for his cushy way through life and this fucker pretends to be the 99%. What utter insulting hogwash.

  170. December 10, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    RA

    Asked about their personal financial struggles, multimillionaire Mitt Romney says:

    I didn’t grow up poor. If you’re looking for someone with that background I’m not that person.

    A glitch in the Matrix there: that’s Romney’s stock response to many questions – “I’m not X, if you’re looking for X I’m not that person – and he clicked on the wrong option there. Although he did go on to say that his father had been poor, so that’s ok.

    Ron Paul reveals that he got through medical school thanks to his wife working. But somehow moves his response onto inflation being caused by printing money. He’s smooth. Very smooth.

  171. December 10, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    RA

    Now we are back on the whole individual mandate for healthcare thing, and Mitt Romney gets to defend himself for the 9,000th time in this election campaign.

    Basically, according to Romney: the individual mandate was brilliant for Massachusetts, but for America it is an economy-wrecking hellhole. Got it?

    Now it’s Newt Gingrich, who has a well-worn line of snake oil on this subject.

    “I was at a pharmacy here in Iowa – I have a cough,” confides Diane Sawyer. So that’s how she does research.

    Ron Paul lays into both Romney and Gingrich for having to explain away their positions. Gets big applause.

  172. 437 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    These people in the audience have no conscience. They’re heartless scumbags of the worst order. They just applauded Ron Paul’s statement that we shouldn’t help poor children in need and shouldn’t help people who desperately need healthcare but due to the economy and unforeseen circumstances can’t afford healthcare.

    • December 10, 2011 at 10:42 pm

      And when Obama wins reelection and the Dems destroy the GOP brand for a generation and healthcare gradually morphs into single payer because the insurance companies can’t make a profit under the ACA, these same people will holler when another conservative comes along wanting to cut universal health care in some fashion because it’s become a “right”.

    • 439 bonkers
      December 10, 2011 at 10:42 pm

      “They’re heartless scumbags of the worst order.”

      This is not exaggeration. It’s a factual statement. Proven over and over again. They are UnAmerican, based upon the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.

    • December 10, 2011 at 10:45 pm

      I’m beginning to look at all Republicans with great suspicion, as though they’re all conscienceless and heartless, which is depressing since I’m surrounded with them in this small Utah valley. I think it’s something like 98% Republican up here. Much worse than the Salt Lake area.

      • 441 bonkers
        December 10, 2011 at 10:55 pm

        Ooof. Hope we can help you keep the faith. I too have felt that way about all modern-day Repubs. The whole Iraq Invasion and Occupation and their nonchalant attitude about the hundreds of thousands of innocent citizen deaths there, many women and children, was the last straw for me. These people are missing a piece of their souls. Everything they’ve done since is just further proof. Evil personified.

        • December 11, 2011 at 1:44 pm

          Well Bonkers, we’ve lived here for nearly 48 years and still put out our Democratic signs (we live on a hill facing a main road through the valley). Sites like TOD, as you say, help us tremendously to keep the faith, knowing we aren’t alone. And since we arrived here we’ve voted in every state and national election. We never helped Utah elect any of our Democratic candidates, but we still plug along, making jokes when we leave the polling place, hailing the few fellow Democrats we meet there as though living in a foreign country. and discovering an ex-patriot.

          We bought a small farm as soon as we came here and Alan was invited to come and teach in his old alma mater, so we’re sort of stuck here. The way we vote for good Democrats in other states is to contribute to their campaigns. It makes us feel a little less useless.

    • December 10, 2011 at 10:52 pm

      I’d like to know what asylum they recruit these audiences from. They are truly despicable people.

  173. December 10, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    From BJ

    My favorite on Twitter so far:

    β€œRomney promises that his butler will personally deliver the $10,000 if he loses.”

  174. 445 meabloom
    December 10, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    This should be GOOD!

  175. 446 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Ron Paul is upset that people on Yahoo keeps asking questions about the same subject – geeze

  176. 447 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Why is the Republican debates based on entry level questions? These debates are no where close to the level of the 2008 debates.

  177. 448 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    How insane is Ron Paul? He really proves this adage right: When you scratch a libertarian; you get a nut. He’s like that moronic uncle at the table who spews drug fueled convoluted crap.

  178. December 10, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Hey, Rick Perry spent a “substantial” amount of time reading!

    This?

  179. 454 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Winner of tonight’s debate – the “Mankini”

    Romney will be crying tonight.

    Go Newt!

  180. December 10, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    It’ll tell you how irrelevant Ron Paul is when Perry and Willard are paying tribute to him.

  181. 456 hopefruit2
    December 10, 2011 at 10:47 pm

  182. 470 nospin
    December 10, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Bachmann is giving a shout out to Herman Cain.

    She is really desperate.

  183. 471 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Herman is Bachmann’s “Secret Lover”

  184. 472 desertflower
    December 10, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    I can’t handle anymore. I’ll just have to read what all of you say. UT, are you plastered yet? I would be if I was drinking!

  185. December 10, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    RA

    After a very long ad break we are now in the wrap-up phase, with the candidates being asked some anodyne question about what they have learned from the other contenders. Yawno.

    Interesting: Romney and Perry are sucking up to Ron Paul in this segment, making a play for his supporters there. That’s a first.

    But that’s not the biggest suck up. That award goes to Newt Gingrich, never knowingly under-sucked: “Governor Terry Bransted is my role model,” says Newt, in the most outrageous Iowa caucus vote-grabber of the night.

    Michele Bachmann mentions Herman Cain. Who?

  186. 475 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    I’m glad that it’s finally over! WHEW! My brain kept drifting and my eyes were glazing over when I looked at Perry and Romney

  187. 476 halo
    December 10, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Can I just objectively say that I think Newt is an amazing debater. I actually think PBO will have to be on his toes more with Newt than Romney.

    • 477 LOL
      December 10, 2011 at 11:00 pm

      I think Newt is good because he makes up shit and thinks of policy on the fly. If there was a real life fact checker…he would be done.

      • 478 Mae who love our CIC
        December 11, 2011 at 8:17 am

        Newt is a habitual liar. He has a lot of experience making up shit when he was cheating on his wives. He perfected looking in your face and lie like hell. And then had the nerve to dare you to question him.

    • 479 bonkers
      December 10, 2011 at 11:01 pm

      Disagree completely. His opponents and the fluffers who are called moderators, just let his nonsense slide, and not only that, continuously promote this lie that Gangrene is “intellectual” and a “good debater.” He’s not at all. Me and most people who read here regularly could dismantle most everything he says in a minute or two. President Barack Hussein Obama will mop the floor with this dumbass, if Gangrene is the actual nominee, which I still don’t think will happen.

    • December 11, 2011 at 12:21 am

      Sorry I still don’t see it.

    • December 11, 2011 at 12:47 am

      I do not believe that POB will have to ‘be on his toes more with Newt than Romney’; I think the American voters need to stand up on their feet and say, “We are not buying your shit Newt and Romney. Not this time, not ever.”HZ

  188. 483 Ladyhawke
    December 10, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Andrew Sullivan Live Blogging. This is hilarious…..

    10.43 pm. Politifact has judged Newt Gingrich’s statement that he has never supported cap and trade as a lie. Meanwhile, I loved this tweet:

    Sometimes I think Rick Perry gets halfway through an answer and sees a Frisbee.

    http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/

  189. December 10, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    I think Michelle Bachmann won the debate.

  190. 486 GGail
    December 10, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Tapper – the bet that shot across the world.

    People will remember the $10,000 bet

  191. 487 halo
    December 10, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    ROMNEY IS DONE. $10k BET WILL DO HIM IN.

  192. 488 LOL
    December 10, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Sometimes I think Rick Perry gets halfway through an answer and sees a Frisbee #Dead

  193. 489 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    December 10, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    10,000K bet. Make it trend on Twitter

  194. 492 vitaminlover
    December 10, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    I am so enjoying everyone’s comments. So many good zingers from TODers.

  195. 493 utaustinliberal
    December 10, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    All anyone is going to remember from this debate is Romney making a buffoonish out of touch $10,000 bet. He really shot himself in the foot with that disgusting bet. This debate was supposed to be an opportunity to sink Newt but they all pretty much jumped on Romney and he came out as one of the losers in this clown debate. Gingrich solidified his front runner status.

  196. December 10, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    So, after the debate, abc really really building up Newt as the inevitable nominee.
    Scary stuff!
    We should be able to neat him. I know tge Press will have a field day with him.

  197. December 10, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Seen On Twitter:

    @fbonacci: Who does Calista’s hair, Mattel?

    omg. these Calista jokes have to stop because I feel bad for laughing. not really.

  198. 501 bonkers
    December 10, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Holy shit. This Iowa Gov Branstad is a complete moran! President Obama has driven this country into debt?!? President Obama is shackling businesses?!? Wow. Terry, dude, how do you explain the NYSE having it’s greatest gains EVER during President Obama’s tenure? Unemployment would be down to roughly 7% if it wasn’t for all the Teebagger governors laying off so many public sector employees, since private sector employment is up big in the last year or so. And the interviewer says nothing….


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