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rise and shine

TOD Alert!!!!

The kids at Desertflower’s school are trying to raise money for a new sound system. If the school can get in the top 15 of a challenge Pepsi are running, then the sound system will be paid for by Pepsi. They are currently at 19.

The challenge ends at midnight tonight – so please vote for Desertflower’s school!

You can do so either online or by text:

Go to the RefreshEverything website – registering takes two minutes, just type “desert shadows” in the search box and the school will come up. Then vote!

Or, Text 73774 and type in the message code 109320.

Desertflower: “I hope everyone will take a minute to push for this for these great kids … they all work too hard NOT to be heard. They have a voice too 🙂 Thanks family.”

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Business Insider – Thanks Dotster

Marketwatch: Growth in private-sector payrolls sharply accelerated in November, led by the service-producing sector and small businesses, according to the ADP employment report released Wednesday.

Employment in the private sector rose by 206,000 jobs in November – the largest gain since last December and almost twice the average increase in recent months. The October level was revised up to 130,000 from a prior estimate of 110,000.

… While economists have noted a divergence between estimates from ADP and the government, markets look to ADP’s report on private-sector payrolls to provide some guidance on the U.S. Labor Department’s jobs estimate, which will be released Friday and includes information on both private- and public-sector payrolls.

More here

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Reuters

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11:30 Michelle Obama delivers the keynote address at Partnership for a Healthier America’s inaugural Building a Healthier Future summit

12:30 Michelle Obama welcomes military families to the White House for the first viewing of the 2011 holiday decorations

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Two more Reuters Photos of the Year:

…. visiting the Lincoln Memorial, April 9

Moneygall, May 2011

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Ooops:

Reuters: Herman Cain had almost daily contact this month with the woman who says she had a 13-year extramarital affair with him, even as he battled sexual harassment allegations from other women, ABC News reported on Wednesday.

More here

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Reuters: Hillary Clinton became the first U.S. secretary of state to visit Myanmar in more than 50 years Wednesday, launching an historic mission to press the reclusive country’s new leaders to sever illicit contacts with North Korea and deliver on reforms.

…. The visit, announced by President Barack Obama at a regional summit in earlier this month, could also open a new arena of U.S. competition with China, which has watched warily as Washington courts its resource-rich southern neighbor as part of a broader policy of increasing U.S. engagement in Asia.

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248 Responses to “rise and shine”


  1. November 30, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Good Morning, Chipsticks 🙂

  2. November 30, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Where’s our MITT VS. MITT VIDEO? 🙂

  3. November 30, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Good morning Chips and everyone!

  4. 6 dotster3
    November 30, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Business Insider reports that “jobs report smashes expectations” as 206,000 private sector jobs added in Nov., widely beating expectations of 130,000.

    • November 30, 2011 at 9:16 am

      Wow, that’s really encouraging news, thanks a million Dotster, added it to the post 😉

      Morning everyone!

    • 9 TrumpDog
      November 30, 2011 at 9:49 am

      We’ll see. I remember they predicted a certain amount and in the final count were wrong.

      • 10 donna dem 4 obama
        November 30, 2011 at 10:30 am

        ADP’s numbers are based on payroll in the private sector. Its the public sector jobs (that republican governors have been cutting) that are unpredictable thus lowering the overall number when we get the final jobs report each month. There have been indicators of late that the public sector layoffs have slowed (except in Wisconsin) so we might end up with a decent jobs report this month. We could sure use a one or two point drop in the unemployment rate.

        • November 30, 2011 at 11:08 am

          I wish Dems would start making that difference more public. How can the GOP try and hold Pres Obama for public sector job losses when they’re forcing spending cuts federally and their GOP governors are cutting state jobs left and right.

    • 12 MoObama
      November 30, 2011 at 11:38 am

      WOW! And many of them went shopping during the Thanksgiving holiday to celebrate! Moving the ecomomy right in the right direction.(:

    • 13 Obama Grandmama
      November 30, 2011 at 11:39 am

      All you see on the news is the potential job losses coming from American Airlines bankruptcy.

  5. November 30, 2011 at 9:17 am

    Desperate Conservatives Beg Sarah Palin To Run

    Ah, don’t say I didn’t warn you about this possibility years ago.

    Watching the last “conservative” Great Hope going down in flames as Herman Cain reassesses his campaign approach (code: okay, maybe I did do something inappropriate), Conservatives for Palin see an opening for the Mama Grizzly. Yes, only she can save America from the evil socialist, even though she was the most socialist governor in America during her brief tenure as Governor of Alaska.

    Still. God still loves her best — a point that Palin, in an act of supreme humility, demonstrated while Mayor of Wasilla. Yes, Palin had “God Loves You Sarah Palin” put on her official mayoral computer but that pales in comparison to the sweet letter she signed as “Your Heavenly Father” to her friends and family. No one knows God like Sarah. Move over, Michele, Rick and Herb!

    …………………………………………………………..

    I have always told you that if Palin were going to run, she would wisely wait out the vetting season of debate as she can not compete in that arena (see her hand for her three ideas for America). She would wait to be begged as all of the other “conservative” candidates fell by the wayside so that she could step in at the last moment as the Hail Mary (that worked so well in 2008!) pass for her faithful.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/desperate-conservatives-beg-sarah-palin-to-run

  6. November 30, 2011 at 9:18 am

    So, now the media is suggesting that this President is running against all previous Presidents, and that he would lose to all of them.
    You just can’t make this shit up!

    • 19 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
      November 30, 2011 at 9:45 am

      Jovie that doesn’t make any sense. Why would he run against previous presidents?

    • November 30, 2011 at 10:40 am

      Right. The current president who is accomplishing all of what the other presidents COULD NOT is going to lose to them. The media is full of imbeciles.

    • 22 Puddin'
      November 30, 2011 at 2:00 pm

      There is NO NEWS (that THEY WANT to report) so they make sh*t up…last week it was a poll taken to found out what people thought what a 5TH GRADE OBAMA was like!!!!!!!!!!!! Instead of talking about/reporting about the 206,000 new jobs, they waste time on dumb sh*t!! When these so called journalist/reporters/pundits/etc start this crazy talk, I turn them off…I don’t have time nor the patience for the craziness.

    • November 30, 2011 at 2:01 pm

      Sounds like a dog whistle to me – all the prior presidents were white males. They’re implying that even his wildly successful legislative record, and stunning foreign policy successes, and even his solid polling compared to those same prior presidents at the same time in their presidency (despite media reports to the contrary) STILL wouldn’t be enough to give him a win. Good thing he didn’t listen to these know-nothings in 2008.

  7. November 30, 2011 at 9:19 am

    November 30, 2011 8:00 AM

    A major shift in the payroll debate
    By Steve Benen

    For months, Republican leaders have balked at the notion of a payroll tax-cut extension. Despite the fact that the tax break was largely their idea in the first place, GOP officials have said they would block President Obama’s request, regardless of the economic consequences.

    But Democrats assumed this position was untenable, and they were right. If the payroll break, approved last December, expires at the end of the calendar year, over 100 million U.S. households would see a fairly significant tax increase during difficult economic times — and it would be entirely Republicans’ fault.

    Sure, the standard GOP response is that they disapprove of the particulars, most notably the fact that Dems would pay for the tax-cut extension with a modest surtax on millionaires and billionaires. But as David Firestone explained yesterday, that still leaves the GOP in an awkward position…..

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/a_major_shift_in_the_payroll_d033792.php

  8. 25 desertflower
    November 30, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Morning! Good news day….

    If I may remind everyone that today IS THE LAST DAY to help me GOTV for the kids at my school….I voted this morning, and we’ve now moved to #19…..we need to be #15 by the midnight deadline…..going to be tough, but I’m hoping that all who visit here today will take a moment to text their vote for these kids 🙂

    Text 73774 Message code 109320

    Many thanks…thank you Chips for letting me put this out there for them…:)

  9. November 30, 2011 at 9:31 am

    November 30, 2011 8:35 AM

    A rare Romney interview
    By Steve Benen

    Mitt Romney, despite having been a presidential candidate non-stop for over five years, is still reluctant to sit down for lengthy media interviews. So when the former governor sat down with Fox News’ Bret Baier yesterday in Miami, it seemed like a rare treat for the political world.

    The two covered a fair amount of ground, but a few exchanges jumped out at me. For example, Baier asked Romney about Newt Gingrich.


    “You know, Speaker Gingrich is a good man. He and I have very different backgrounds. He spent his last 30 or 40 years in Washington. I spent my career in the private sector. I think that’s what the country needs right now.”

    That’s not quite true. Romney spent some of his career leading a vulture capital fund, breaking up companies and firing American workers, but he’s also been a Senate candidate, a governor, the chairman of the Republican Governors Association, the head of a political action committee, and a two-time presidential candidate. He spent his career “in the private sector”? Not really.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/index.php

  10. November 30, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Well, the Republican Party is finally scraping the crumbs off the bottom of the barrel. Our local Harrisburg area newspaper says that Pat (OMG) Toomey is being seriously considered as a prime vice presidential candidate because HE DID SO WELL IN THE FAILED SUPERCOMMITEE!!! Says he has impeccable Tea Party Credentials (he is 100 percent backed by Club for Growth) and would strengthen Romney’s and Newt’s appeal to this group. Plus, he comes from a swing state. This is beyond insane and my stomach is actually revolting in disgust. Words cannot convey how much I detest this odious man who has the look of an undertaker and the heart of an autocrat. I never thought I’d live to say these words, but I wish, wish, wish, Arlen Specter was still our Pa senator. I am gobsmacked. This is opposite world and the funny farm combined in one great lunacy.

  11. November 30, 2011 at 9:32 am

    With this ADP jobs report, I can just picture john Boehner pounding his fist, looking up to the sky and yelling “Noooooooooo!” just like some evil guy in a Hollywood action movie.

  12. November 30, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Ooooooooooooooops:

    Herman Cain had almost daily contact this month with the woman who says she had a 13-year extramarital affair with him, even as he battled sexual harassment allegations from other women, ABC News reported on Wednesday.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/30/us-usa-campaign-cain-idUSTRE7AR2CH20111130

  13. November 30, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Omg chips, quick go look at politico headlines!
    They are implying that they are Jedi knights? Jeesh!

  14. November 30, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Film honcho donates $5 million to U. of C. Laboratory Schools
    Sherry Lansing: ‘It’s truly the most wonderful school in the world’

    By Barbara Brotman, Chicago Tribune reporter

    12:07 a.m. CST, November 30, 2011
    There is a place in Chicago that profoundly influenced Sherry Lansing, shaping her 30-year career as one of the most powerful producers in Hollywood and the philanthropic role she has taken on since leaving it.

    On Wednesday, she will say a $5 million thank-you.

    The University of Chicago Laboratory Schools plan to announce that Lansing, who graduated from the Lab’s high school in 1962, has pledged that amount to support a new arts wing. The centerpiece, a 250-seat performance venue, will be named the Sherry Lansing Theater.

    Describing her experience at Lab, Lansing, who grew up in Chicago’s South Shore neighborhood, reached for superlatives.

    “It’s truly the most wonderful school in the world,” she said by phone from Santa Barbara, Calif., where she was spending the Thanksgiving holiday.

    “It was a totally nonjudgmental environment,” she said. “You were totally free to be yourself.”

    Housed in Gothic, vaguely Hogwartian buildings on the U. of C. campus, Lab is one of the city’s top private schools. The Obamas and the Pritzkers have sent their children there. Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s children enrolled there when he returned from Washington.

    Children of prominent families are treated no differently than anyone else, Lab students say.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-lab-school-donation-20111130,0,1753432.story

    • 77 57andFemale
      November 30, 2011 at 10:26 am

      So little is done for the arts. This is wonderful news.

      We’d have better, more informed, more empathetic citizens if the arts got even 10% of what sports gets.

  15. November 30, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Good morning, TODville!! I hope everyone is having a good day. PBO will be addressing us soon!!

  16. November 30, 2011 at 9:38 am

    Hey folks, let’s vote on the OFA poster contest to support President Obama’s jobs plan and the campaign:

    http://artworks.barackobama.com/?source=01-11292011-HQB

  17. November 30, 2011 at 9:39 am

    November 30, 2011 9:20 AM

    Huntsman won’t fully commit to GOP

    By Steve Benen

    It’s not exactly a secret that former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, up until recently a member of the Obama administration, is struggling to get ahead in the Republican presidential field. A moderate by contemporary GOP standards, Huntsman simply appears to be out of step with his radicalized party.

    But exactly how uncomfortable is he?

    Asked in September, whether he’d consider running as an independent if his Republican bid came up short, Huntsman seemed to rule out the possibility. Asked again yesterday, Huntsman offered a different line.

    Republican Jon Huntsman today refused to rule out running as an independent candidate for president should he fail in his quest for his party’s 2012 nomination.

    Asked, “Is there any situation in which you would run for president as an independent?” Huntsman told The Boston Globe, “I don’t think so.”

    Told that anything but a flat denial could perpetuate speculation about the possibility, Huntsman replied: “I’m a lifelong Republican. I’m running as a Republican, and I fully anticipate that that’s where we’re going to be.”

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/huntsman_wont_fully_commit_to033794.php

    • November 30, 2011 at 11:51 am

      I like Steve Benen, but I think these political writers try to read too much into statements that aren’t absolute concrete positively one way or the other. Not to defend Huntsman in any way, but I would much rather have a politician be truthful and say “No, I don’t plan to,” then say “Never, ever.” We all know it is pretty much impossible to predict our every move in the future. Just because he’s saying it’s highly unlikely he would ever run as an independent doesn’t mean we should start laying down bets on his third-party run next fall.

      President Obama doesn’t like to be boxed into absolute statements, either.

    • 86 Judith Fardig
      November 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      I’ll bet Huntsman is gunning for the online nomination via Americans Elect, especially if Bloomberg doesn’t want it. I really hope people don’t fall for this supposedly “centrist” nominating process which plans to get its nominee on the ballot in all 50 states. I don’t trust the hedge fund managers who bank-rolled it. To me, it seems like a way to peel independent votes away from President Obama.

    • November 30, 2011 at 2:23 pm

      I think he’s being groomed to be the “third party” leader, and appeal to independents (although, not sure how he gets around the wholehearted endorsement of Paul Ryan’s plan to kill Medicare and Social Security, and his squealing support for Sarah Palin). I loathe this man.

  18. November 30, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Good morning, Chips
    Upon seeing this picture of our agile, hard working President, this thought came in my mind that I wiil share :
    Can you imagine the Govenor of NJ even attempting to walk up those stairs, forget about running. Even the SS are having a difficult tim keeping up.

    VP is such a cowardly move . But most bullies are cowards anyway, so that is not a surprise. The only thing he should be running to is joining Michelle Obama’s “Let’s Move” campaing. Our President’s schedule for today has worn me out just reading it. But I will meet up with him in New York this evening. Off to do some last minute things. Thanks, Chips, for all you do. I just pray that I do not forget to take my camera. Could not sleep thinking about today.

  19. November 30, 2011 at 9:45 am

    I hate how the jobs report always is revised up a month or two later, after the lower report is sold as doom and gloom. 20,000 might not seem like a lot, but every job matters.

    How many people does one job help? Certainly the person who got the job and their spouse and kids if they have them. But also their parents who can breathe again, their in-laws, their sisters/brothers who might have been helping them out, their friends etc.

    • 103 jacquelineoboomer
      November 30, 2011 at 10:28 am

      Exactly right, and well said. Also helps local businesses, where the salary is spent, and helps maintain the standard of living in communities.

  20. 104 dotster3
    November 30, 2011 at 9:54 am

    First, it was shocking to see David Plouffe on the Today Show—–Look, ma, a Democrat!!! But guess what the first question was. Matt Lauer asked him if he thought Herman Cain could ever return to prominence. Unbelievable. Plouffe was brilliant in response saying he had experience working on presidential campaigns but not in Republican primaries, insinuating ‘why in the world are you asking me this lunkhead question, lunkhead?’ Lauer stayed in present day MSM character by then asking Plouffe, “How does the president look the people of Scranton in the eye?”…….since he promised change and the economy is still bad etc. Plouffe again expertly went down the change list—–ending war, health care reform, economic and tax policies geared to benefit the middle class etc.—–as he tried to make clear President Obama has kept his word on change —-and can look the people of Scranton in the eye. Our news media——beyond disgusting. They’re either completely ignoring President Obama’s activities and policies or asking snarky, accusatory questions about same.
    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/45490035#45490035

    • 105 TrumpDog
      November 30, 2011 at 9:56 am

      I love Plouffe, he’s really good in front of the cameras. I wish he was on more but -as you said- he’s a Democrat.

    • November 30, 2011 at 10:42 am

      Well, the today show has been co opted by every republican.
      We can’t just ignore these DC news agencies, we must engage, or they will get even worse.

    • November 30, 2011 at 10:48 am

      You see, this is why the media hates Pres. Obama. He walks tall, chin up and not afraid to confront issues head on. He doesn’t hide, he comes out swinging and doesn’t kowtow to the press. “Look Scranton in the eye?” As if Pres. Obama hasn’t been dealing with a treasonous Republican party.

    • November 30, 2011 at 11:04 am

      I tend to take a different perspective on negative framing of questions like the “…look people in the eye in Scranton…” question. To me, this is exactly how we want these questions asked so that the Obama admin can tout their successes. Saying it a different way, viewers would be turned off if the interviewer appeared to be biased and a lapdog for any current administration. Secondly, if the question isn’t asked at all, then promoting those successes can’t happen. So, whether it’s the White House press corp or the TV or other MSM asking questions that gives the Obama admin an opportunity to rebut the framing and for the viewer to say to themselves,”hmmm, that’s right!” to me is actually the best format. And I don’t think the Obama admin has any qualms with it. In fact, the only questions that they have ever objected to are the ridiculous questions on subjects such as birth certificates, etc.

      • November 30, 2011 at 11:55 am

        I do see your point, but loaded questions like that automatically put Democrats on the defensive. A question like that is pretty darned close to the old “Have you stopped beating your wife?” joke. It automatically assumes the president is a failure. Then Plouffe has to say, “No, here’s why we’re not a failure.”

        • November 30, 2011 at 12:22 pm

          I agree with you. As I walked by the TV (I’m retired and the TV is on for noise sometimes) I hear the first line of Alex Wager’s opening: “With the President’s approval numbers so low, blah, blah, blah”,. I don’t care if it’s CNN, FOX or MSNBC – they ALL start out with the negative. Now we know the President’s record because we pay attention. I dare say most don’t. So when they are bombarded with this negative meme every time they turn on the tube, just what are they suppose to think?

      • 111 Obama Grandmama
        November 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm

        I think you are right on! The President and media spokespeople representing him need that opening to be able to give exactly what they have accomplished. The viewer is usually lazy and had the same question asked in their own minds so the opportunity to address it head-on without appearing like braggarts can be utilized. To those of us that are supporters, we can’t help bristling at the awkward meanspirited questions.

      • November 30, 2011 at 12:11 pm

        That’s exactly where I went with that question, forus50. It’s almost like these questions are planted by the White House just so Plouffe can pivot off them to underscore the President’s accomplishments. Backhanded softball.

  21. 113 TrumpDog
    November 30, 2011 at 9:55 am

    I voted foir three posters. I really liked the one featured in the post here.
    I also voted for the “Work for America” one, featuring the Obama symbol (by Tom, Stone Ridge, NY) I think that’s my favorite.
    My third vote went to the one with the ladder, clouds and the light.

    All were pretty good.

    Does anyone know if they are planning to sell the winning poster design?

    • November 30, 2011 at 10:10 am

      YES, lots of good ones. I picked:

      1) Jeff from Tulsa, OK
      2) Ariana from Salt Lake City, UT
      3) Terry from Baldwin Park CA

      I bet they will sell them in the OFA store.

  22. 115 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    November 30, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Morning TODville, I can’t believe this Markos guy is crediting the GOP cave on Pay Roll Tax to #OWS. I have NEVER heard anyone from OWS mention Tax in their rants 🙄

    • 116 ChristiMtl
      November 30, 2011 at 10:11 am

      Good morning everyone,

      Right! he takes credit for that?

      I checked his twitter feed

      ”#OWS does what Dems can never do: Get the GOP to cave.”

      I had to read his article…..what a joke.

      Something caught my eyes though in DK.

      ”Occupy Obama – Nov. 30, NYC”

      ”OWS will demonstrate against the presidential fundraisers today. We will leave from Bryant Park (41st and 6th) at 6:00 PM.”

      • 117 Desraye
        November 30, 2011 at 10:20 am

        Yea, I seen that bs. Only one comment in that diary made sense.

      • 118 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
        November 30, 2011 at 10:23 am

        Pliz don’t tell me those idiots are NOT going to occupy my President. Attention seekers.

      • 119 Lovepolitics2008
        November 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm

        God can they be more stupid and counter-productive? They’re going to “occupy” one of the only politicians on Washington who is on the side of ordinary people !!!

        How about “occupying” the republican leadership in Washington ???

        SO, SO tired of their scapegoating the president. Unfair and childish. When are they going to wake up to the reality that on domestic politics, the president has less power than CONGRESS ?

    • 120 TrumpDog
      November 30, 2011 at 10:12 am

      I haven’t either.
      Markos is so full of shit.

      • November 30, 2011 at 10:18 am

        Same old story really. The nutroots claim to have made Pres. Obama do x, y, z whenever something is done that they like. For example – DADT repeal, they made him do it. That way he gets no credit for it of course.

        Funny how Markos is claiming this win when I was just reading somewhere (can’t remember where) but it said OWS needed to start claiming victories in order to stay relevant and keep up energies. Ha.

    • November 30, 2011 at 10:15 am

      And they didn’t cave yet. They’re saying they’ll find other ways to pay for it – so you know the GOP will cut medicare, education, home heating.

      The only good this from the GOP saying “we’ll look to find money elsewhere to fund it” is they’ll have to look to find money to off-set the Bush Tax Cuts if they want them kept in a years time.

      • November 30, 2011 at 12:15 pm

        So OWS can’t even get that right? Wow. Seriously, if they’re going to take credit for something, they ought to at least learn if it actually happened first.

  23. November 30, 2011 at 9:56 am

    WASHINGTON — The Federal Reserve moved Wednesday with other major central banks to buttress financial markets by increasing the availability of dollars outside the United States, reflecting growing concern about the fallout of the European debt crisis.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/01/business/central-banks-move-together-to-ease-debt-crisis.html

  24. 125 debbyeOh
    November 30, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Good morning TOD family! Wow, you all are on it this morning in culling such good information! I love Steve Benen over at Washington Monthly, he’s so smart! Glad job numbers are looking pretty good, MSM gonna spin it as how those wonderful GOPers made it possible!

  25. November 30, 2011 at 10:03 am

    PHOENIX – An Arizona gun club is offering a chance for children and their families to pose for photos with Santa while holding pistols and military-style rifles.

    One image shows Santa in a wingback chair with a snowflake background, a Christmas tree behind him and flanked by an $80,000 machine gun and a tripod-mounted rifle. Next to Santa is a man standing behind a boy, who is holding an unloaded AR-15 with an attached grenade launcher.

    In another photo, Santa cradles a toddler dressed in camouflage, while a man and woman stand close by with rifles with foldable stocks.

    http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?feed_id=1&catid=57333647&videofeed=37

    Ummmm, Really?

  26. 133 halo
    November 30, 2011 at 10:13 am

    HERE’S TO HOPING ADP IS RIGHT!!

  27. November 30, 2011 at 10:20 am

    November 30, 2011 9:55 AM

    Politicians don’t like being laughed at

    By Steve Benen

    At an event in South Florida yesterday, several leading Cuban-American members of Congress endorsed Mitt Romney’s Republican presidential campaign. But for one of the lawmakers, the interesting developments came after the event.

    Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) spoke to the Miami Herald’s Marc Caputo, who asked the congressman about President Obama’s foreign policy record. Diaz-Balart dismissed the president’s accomplishments, crediting George W. Bush for Obama’s successes. Caputo, who’s a reporter but also a human being, literally chuckled at the congressman’s nonsense.

    And that didn’t go over well.


    Diaz-Balart: “You laugh, are you a reporter or a debater? … It’s funny because — and I’m not giving you a hard time here, but usually reporters are reporters, not advocates.”

    Caputo: “I am not.”

    Diaz-Balart: “Oh yes you are.”

    Caputo: “Give me an example of advocacy,”

    Diaz-Balart: “Right now! You’re laughing about my position…. You’re an advocate! By the way, you have the right to be. I love advocacy.”

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/politicians_dont_like_being_la033795.php

    • 135 jacquelineoboomer
      November 30, 2011 at 10:22 am

      Don’t know Marc Caputo, but I say Marc Caputo for Florida Governor! Love it.

    • November 30, 2011 at 10:26 am

      Reporter should have said “Reporters ARE advocates – for the truth, and you are a liar”

    • 137 Ladyhawke
      November 30, 2011 at 11:58 am

      The Republican Party has become a laughingstock.

      How many times have you heard Mitt Romney make some outlandish criticism of President Obama and it just made you want to burst out laughing because it was so ridiculous?? It happens all the time with the clown car GOP presidential candidates because they got nothin to work with. They sound like babbling idiots most of the time.

      I would love to see more of this from reporters. What drives me crazy is when talk show hosts and the media hear these stupid criticisms and they just let them pass without challenge. The response from the reporter was an honest response to a nonsensical comment. It would be interesting if the reporter asked Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart to explain exactly how the Bush administration should get the credit for the Obama administration foreign policy successes.

  28. 138 Fred
    November 30, 2011 at 10:21 am

    morning TOD family

  29. 145 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    November 30, 2011 at 10:22 am

    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2011/11/bret-baier-qa-shows-why-mitt-romney-shies-away-from-media-asking-about-his-record.html

    Bret Baier Q&A shows why Willard Mitt Romney shies away from media asking about his record. Nice read

  30. November 30, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Yesterday, I saw Anita Bryant on tv, today I saw Jen Psaki, both former communications directors for the President!
    Good- get our people jobs in the media, the Bush people are all over the place!

  31. November 30, 2011 at 10:26 am

    In a rare show of bipartisan comity on the angrily contested issue of immigration, the House of Representatives on Tuesday passed a bill that tweaks the visa system to allow more highly skilled immigrants from India and China to become legal permanent residents. The bill, originally offered by Representatives Jason Chaffetz, a conservative freshman Republican from Utah, and Lamar Smith, a Texas Republican and chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, sailed through by a vote of 389 to 15.

    ~snip~

    The legislation also includes a measure that will more than double the green cards based on family ties available for Mexicans and Filipinos, the two national groups facing the longest backlogs on the family side of the system. It raises the country limit for 226,000 family green cards each year to 15 percent from the current 7 percent.

    By far, the main beneficiaries will be highly skilled immigrants from India and China, including many with master’s degrees and doctorates in science and engineering. Because they come from populous countries that send many people to work here who have advanced science and technology skills, immigrants from those two nations had been forced by the country limits into lines that were many years long and growing much longer. In most cases, Indians and Chinese who will now receive their permanent green cards more quickly have been working in the United States for years on temporary visas. The immigrants and their employers have passed labor market tests showing that qualified Americans were not available for jobs they hold.

    Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/long-wait-for-green-cards-could-soon-be-over-154114&cp

    h/t Julia Preston

  32. November 30, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Josh Marshall November 30, 2011, 9:17 AM
    There’s a meme bouncing around today which has it that President Obama’s approval numbers have now ‘fallen’ even lower than Jimmy Carter’s at the same point in his presidency. I even heard it picked up on MSNBC.

    This is a bogus factoid on a couple different levels.

    President Obama’s approval rating is definitely in the danger zone in reelection terms. But it’s actually been rising over the last month or two. His net disapproval has gone from over ten to roughly 5 percentage points. (You can see a graph here.) This new factoid stems from the fact that Carter’s approval numbers actually spiked dramatically (about 20 points) in November of 1979 at the beginning of the Iranian hostage crisis.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/11/bogus_stat_alert.php?m=1

  33. November 30, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Good morning Chips and TOD family.

    Desertflower – Done !

  34. November 30, 2011 at 10:32 am

    The US has asked Pakistan to reconsider its decision to boycott an international conference on Afghanistan in Bonn next week, saying it is in Islamabad’s interest and that its participation was “very important” for the future of the war-torn country. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton while voicing regret at Pakistan’s decision hoped it would reconsider and find a “follow-up way” to take part in the talks in Germany.

    85 nations and 15 international organisations are due to attend the crucial international meet starting on December 5. Addressing an aid conference in South Korea, Ms Clinton reiterated the US position that the border killing of Pakistani soldiers was a “tragic incident” and pledged an investigation “as swiftly and thoroughly as possible.”

    Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/us-asks-pakistan-to-reconsider-afghan-talks-boycott-154035&cp

    h/t Press Trust of India

  35. November 30, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Dow is up 400 points and climbing. Media epic ignore!

  36. 157 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    November 30, 2011 at 10:35 am

    ALWAYS FOR MY PBO HERE…LOVE HIM TO PIECES…BTW…GET YOUR OWN!

  37. November 30, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Obama appoints IIT Bombay graduate at top energy job
    IANS, Indo Asian News Service, 30 Nov 2011 | 03:03 PM

    Naming yet another Indian American to a key administration post, President Barack Obama has appointed Arun Majumdar, an Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay, alumnus as the top bureaucrat in the Department of Energy. Announcing the appointment of Majumdar as under secretary of energy along with four other key administration posts, Obama said: “These men and women have demonstrated knowledge and dedication throughout their careers. “I am grateful, they have chosen to take on these important roles, and I look forward to working with them in the months and years to come.”

    Obama administration has more Indian-Americans in high places than ever before with their numbers rising through Clinton and Bush presidencies. By far, the highest ranking Indian-American in any presidential administration is USAID administrator Rajiv Shah.

    ~snip~

    http://profit.ndtv.com/News/Article/obama-appoints-iit-bombay-graduate-at-top-energy-job-293170?pfrom=home-otherstories

  38. November 30, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Payroll tax cut extension: Senate Republicans say they’ll back it “in all likelihood”

    Senate Republicans have indicated for the first time that a majority of them would support an extension of the payroll tax cut, part of President Barack Obama’s $447 billion job creation package. “In all likelihood we will agree to continue the current payroll tax relief for another year,” Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday, Reuters reported.

    ~snip~

    Last week, President Obama challenged Congress to get behind his payroll tax extension before the tax cut expired on Dec. 31. “If Congress refuses to act, then middle-class families are going to get hit with a tax increase at the worst possible time,” Obama said in Manchester, N.H., the Miami Herald reported. “The question they’ll have to answer when they get back from Thanksgiving is this: Are they really willing to break their oath to never raise taxes, and raise taxes on the middle class just to play politics?”

    “The Democrats put [Republicans] in a box,” Andrew Taylor, a North Carolina State University political science professor, told Reuters. “I think many Republicans realized this is a bad side of the argument to be on.”

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/111129/payroll-tax-cut-extension-senate-republican-support

    h/t Samantha Stainburn

  39. November 30, 2011 at 10:45 am

    New York Court Ruling: Corporations May Pick Americans’ Pockets

    On Monday, New York’s highest court, the Court of Appeals, overturned a ban (lasting since 1846) prohibiting the state from giving gifts of money or credit to corporations. From Reuters, David Jay Johnston reports on how the ruling allows corporations to reach their hands into tax payers’ wallets. Read the transcript (below) or watch the video:

    ~snip~

    http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/741108/new_york_court_ruling%3A_corporations_may_pick_americans%27_pockets/

    h/t Kristen Gwynne

  40. 162 MTmarilyn
    November 30, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Good Morning Chips and TODville!!!! Jobs are up!! Wow. Even with the Teapubs fighting as hard as they can, some things are improving. We must Press On!

  41. November 30, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Patriot Millionaires: Let the Bush Tax Cuts Expire Once and for All

    Patriot Millionaires for Fiscal Strength, a group of citizens who make more than $1 million a year, met with politicians from both parties on Wednesday, November 16, in Washington, DC, with a unified message: Let the Bush tax cuts expire once and for all, and return the top marginal tax rate back to the Clinton-era levels.

    Guy Saperstein, a former civil rights attorney and member of the Patriot Millionaires, said the most “substantive and revealing” meeting took place with supercommittee member Sen. John Kerry (D-Massachusetts). The group spent 75 minutes repeatedly and sharply telling Senator Kerry that the Bush tax cuts should expire.

    “He told us a number of things that I would put in a disturbing category,” says Saperstein. “We told him the Bush tax cuts should not be restored. That’s our main point. He tried to sell us on the idea of reducing the top tax rates from 35 percent down to 28 percent. He tried to make the argument that it could be made up by closing loopholes elsewhere. We were astonished by that.”

    ~snip~

    http://www.truth-out.org/patriot-millionaires-let-bush-tax-cuts-expire-once-and-all/1322506362

    h/t Rose Aguilar

  42. November 30, 2011 at 10:54 am

    LET’S GET CHRISTMAS STARTED IN HERE: Per the AP, the Black Eyed Peas will join President Obama for the National Christmas Tree lighting ceremony Thursday. 
    Pool-

  43. 169 donna dem 4 obama
    November 30, 2011 at 11:03 am

    DF – Done!

    Let’s hope for a good report on the “public sector” jobs as well so that these numbers from ADP will hold up and bring that unemployment rate down, down, down!

    On the posters…I think simplicity wins people over. We live in a fast past, instant message society so my pics were based on that:

    1.) Tom – Stone Ridge, NY
    2.) Jeff – Tulsa, OK
    3.) Julie – Seattle, WA

    but they were all very good!!!

  44. November 30, 2011 at 11:03 am

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A $1 billion solar energy project that lost a federal loan in the wake of the Solyndra bankruptcy and related investigations is back on track to nearly double the number of panels on residential rooftops in the U.S.
    San Mateo, Calif.-based SolarCity said Wednesday that it had reached a deal with Bank of America Corp.’s Merrill Lynch unit for financing the five-year project called SolarStrong. The venture would put shimmering solar panels on 120,000 military houses in dozens of states.
    SolarCity said the solar installations will provide power to military families at a lower cost than utility power.
    In late September, SolarCity said the military project’s loan guarantee from the U.S. Department of Energy was scuttled due to new, more rigid requirements spurred by the collapse of Fremont, Calif.-based Solyndra Inc., which filed for bankruptcy despite a $528 million DOE loan.
    Just weeks before, U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu had hailed SolarStrong as the “largest domestic residential rooftop solar project in history” while announcing DOE’s intent to provide a partial guarantee for the company’s $344 million loan.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h9IXH58ollCgtYFjdyXPAk0noyhQ?docId=e54ae6f209254bcbb490f5d72c782cee

  45. November 30, 2011 at 11:04 am

    The Black Eyed Peas and Kermit the Frog are joining the lineup of performers who will help light the National Christmas Tree near the White House.

    Carson Daly will host the lighting ceremony Thursday. Performers will also include Big Time Rush, Ellie Goulding, the band OneRepublic, country star Rodney Atkins and singer Marsha Ambrosius.

    President Barack Obama and his family will officially light the tree. This will be the 89th year for the holiday tree lighting. The tradition began with President Calvin Coolidge in 1923.

    This is the first lighting of a new National Christmas Tree that was planted in March. It’s a 26-foot-tall Colorado blue spruce from a New Jersey tree nursery. Strong winds in February toppled the last tree that had stood on the Ellipse since 1978.

    Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/30/4089718/black-eyed-peas-to-join-obama.html#ixzz1fCmpAEcZ

    • 176 Vicky
      November 30, 2011 at 11:58 am

      Three thoughts:

      His body language is telling. Especially when he shifts his posture and body weight.

      He is like Gingrich in his attacks on the interviewer. Deny, deflect, deny, deflect.

      There is something about hair like that that I am viscerally and automatically distrustful of.

  46. November 30, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Hi everyone, I added some info to the post about voting for Desertflower’s school in the Pepsi Challenge 😉

  47. November 30, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Anyone paying attention to the birth control issue? On making it mandatory or not for insurance companies to cover it? I’ve sent my pov to the White House and Pres.Obama’s people but I just want to say that I’m getting sick and tired of people dismissing Pres.Obama’s accomplishments but become outraged when a specific accomplishment could come undone and then proclaim that Pres.Obama doesn’t care.

    • 185 jacquelineoboomer
      November 30, 2011 at 11:26 am

      Yes, it’s all getting quite “old,” isn’t it? Grrr. We just have to #PressOn.

      • November 30, 2011 at 3:56 pm

        Obama DOJ Cracks Down on Protesters Blocking Abortion Clinics
        —By Kate Sheppard| Thu Sep. 1, 2011 11:44 AM PDT

        The Obama administration has stepped up efforts to protect abortion clinics from protesters illegally impeding access to clinic grounds. NPR reported Thursday that the Department of Justice is bringing more civil suits against protesters who trespass and block access to clinics:

        The numbers are most stark when it comes to civil lawsuits, which seek to create buffer zones around clinic entrances for people who have blocked access in the past. Under the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, or FACE Act, the Justice Department’s civil rights division has filed eight civil cases since the start of the Obama administration. That’s a big increase over the George W. Bush years, when one case was filed in eight years.

        ~snip~

        http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/09/obama-doj-cracks-down-protestors-blocking-abortion-clinics

    • November 30, 2011 at 3:50 pm

      Abortion in the Defense Authorization Bill
      —By Kate Sheppard| Wed Nov. 30, 2011 6:07 AM PST

      Women in the military have volunteered to serve the nation—but, if they’re the victims of rape or incest, current US policy does not permit them to obtain an abortion under military medical insurance. Now, Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) is leading an effort to change this policy through an amendment to the pending National Defense Authorization Act.

      Under the Hyde Amendment, passed in 1976, no federal money can be used to provide abortion services. The rule provides an exception in cases of rape, incest, or to save a mother’s life—an exception that other federal policies, including the Affordable Care Act, also include. But, under current policy, the 400,000 women in the service covered under the DOD’s Military Health System can only use their insurance for an abortion if their lives are at risk.

      According to the DOD, there were 3,158 military sexual assaults reported in 2010—and outside studies have estimated that as many as 75 percent of are raped do not report it. Without coverage through military insurance, those women are often forced to pay out of pocket and seek services off base.

      ~snip~

      http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/11/abortion-defense-authorization-bill

  48. November 30, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Two questions:

    (1) Am I alone in HAAAAAAAATING the new YouTube design?

    (2) Am I alone in no longer being able to view photos at Daylife: http://news.daylife.com/search?q=Barack+Obama

    😦

    Update: Now I see the new YouTube design is only being foisted on some people, like me!! “We are doing an experiment which will change the visual layout of your Homepage for a small amount of YouTube users.”

    http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=4942d3ed26491a69&hl=en

    Grr!!!!!!!!

  49. 189 eveingeorgia
    November 30, 2011 at 11:21 am

    @desertflower

    My vote is in.

  50. November 30, 2011 at 11:21 am

    I guess we are back to discussing that Obama has lost working class whites.
    Of course, the media knows their is racial undertones in this narrative, but every segment includes this ridiculous and I assume email from the RNC.

  51. 193 carolyn
    November 30, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Voted, desertflower.. Good luck. My field is education, and anything to help anyone in education! You are doing the good work!

  52. 195 donna dem 4 obama
    November 30, 2011 at 11:49 am

    So tweeter is all abuzz that OWS plans to protest and mic check the President at tonights fundraiser in NY and probably in PA today as well. We’ll see how many new jobs or assistance with student loans or wall street accountablity this action will get us. Geesh!!!

    • 196 Desraye
      November 30, 2011 at 11:57 am

      They are about getting attention.

    • November 30, 2011 at 11:58 am

      It’s all so depressing but predictable Donna, the Firebaggers have completely hijacked the OWS movement – when you consider the connections between the likes of Greenwald and the Koch brothers (http://www.cato-unbound.org/contributors/glenn-greenwald/) it was, I suppose, to be expected. Dark forces at work.

    • 198 FiredUpInCA
      November 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm

      As soon as they yell ‘Mic Check’ I want somebody to yell ‘Reality Check’ and lead the crowd in a teach-in for the Occupiers. “End the Bails for to Big to Fail. Yes we did! Create a Consumer Protection Agency. Yes we did! More money for students instead of banks. Yes we did!

      The point is, if they’re going carelessly use this tactic on everyone as if everyone is equally culpable, there’s no need to be caught flat-footed by it and there’s no reason not to get another message besides theirs out there.

      if a factual message drowned out theirs, we could be assured that the event would get no news coverage.

    • 203 Brittany
      November 30, 2011 at 12:11 pm

      They think it’s fun to mic check POTUS. When they do it twitter will be abuzz with, “Did you see us mic check him.”

    • 204 nintendowii10
      November 30, 2011 at 12:12 pm

      And this is why myself and others have grown DISGUSTED with the Occupy movement. It’s become less and less about the 99% and more and more about these pathetic bunch of emoprog whiners who want attention. They complain about why things remain the same, yet don’t want to do anything meaningful to advocate the changes they seek. Just imagine if Dr. King and his group mic checked JFK, would the fight for Civil Rights have been a success?

      Don’t worry, President Obama WILL handle these group of clowns just as he did the last bunch: with class and style. Eventually, as the Teabags found out, OWS will find out that no matter what they do, they won’t take down our President in the manner that they seek.

  53. 206 FiredUpInCA
    November 30, 2011 at 11:49 am

    I just voted Desertflower. Good luck.

    So now that McConnell has signaled that he is going to support a payroll tax cut, the new contentious issue is how to pay for it.

    From what I’ve read, these are the top options being discussed:

    President’s plan: surtax on millionaires. Supported by: most of the country and none of the Republicans.

    McConnell’s plan: offset the cost of a payroll tax cut (probably by drastically reducing near-term spending across the board.) Supported by: McConnell. it doesn’t even get unanimous support in his party.

    Bipartisan plan: Deem the extensions to be emergency spending. (Supported by some Senators on both sides of the aisle, probably doesn’t have much support in the House.)

    Considering that asking for middle class families to pay $750 to $1000 more in taxes is a political non-starter, I wonder which one of these will actually pass.

  54. 208 Alycee (@jazziz2)
    November 30, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Has anyone heard from Yardarm??? Haven’t seen him here for several days.

  55. 213 24Sass
    November 30, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Thank you so much for the info on Sec. of State Clinton’s visit to Myanmar. This is an historic visit and none of the MSM gave it a sniff. President Obama is doing all he can to get things done, get us jobs, and get countries to reform their ways.

    It seems like I’m always saying thanks here, but I really mean it. I posted the video and the Reuters link at Democrats For Progress and gave Chipsticks and all of you high praise!! This is the best site on the web.

    Hugs from 24Sass

  56. November 30, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Schwarzman, mr wall street, was asked on the bloomberg channel why he supports Mitt Romney?
    He said because I made a lot of money with him and private equities firm.

    Yikes.

    Dnc needs to cut that ad now!

  57. 215 eveingeorgia
    November 30, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Why do they keep lying? I read this in a comments section today, and became instantly depressed, then TPM cleared it up: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/11/bogus_stat_alert.php?ref=fpblg

  58. November 30, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Romney is such a phony he has canned answers for what books he is reading/read:

    Mitt Romney’s answer tonight on Fox News with Bret Baier about the last book he’s reading –

    Romney said he was reading a “fun” book now, but “I just read ‘decision points’ by President Bush.”
    Continue Reading

    Back in May, in an NBC News interview, Romney said, “Last book I read was a novel called The Rule Of Nines, which was just fun…a more serious book, I finished President Bush’s book, ‘Decisions,’ and enjoyed that very much.”

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/69377.html

    Either he read the book twice, hasn’t read a book in seven months or this is just a canned answer.

    • 217 nintendowii10
      November 30, 2011 at 12:14 pm

      You can just tell that it’s burning Willard inside to shout to the Repub voters: “I know you don’t like or support me, but I’m going to be YOUR nominee for Pete’s sake!”

    • 218 blondegrrl
      November 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm

      The book is trite, shallow and disappointing – like Mittens himself.

  59. 219 sherijr
    November 30, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Hola Happy People… just saw on twitter that ows is planning to “occupy Obama” today.. what a load of malarky… that only shows the absolute BS of this ‘movement’.. if they aren’t able to distinguish who the bad guys are, then they are not seeking help for the 99% of us.. it is fabricated mayhem. So tired of liars.

    Went over & voted for your kids DF and for the posters at MyBO too.. thank you for posting all the links Chipsticks.. and for Sec of State Clinton’s historic visit 🙂

  60. November 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    November 30, 2011 11:20 AM

    Why pay for the tax break?

    By Steve Benen

    As the debate over extending the payroll tax break shifts on Capitol Hill, reader F.B. flags an amusing moment from MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” earlier today.

    Host Joe Scarborough, a former Republican member of Congress, noted that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has said he would block the extension of the tax break unless it’s fully paid for. And that’s when the mockery began: “[I]f Mitch McConnell is saying that, and it looks like he is saying that, he would appear to be the first Republican in the history of Washington D.C. to say they don’t want a tax cut unless it is ‘paid for,’ because we Republicans generally believe that tax cuts pay for themselves. The economy grows; daisies bloom in the backyard; male-pattern baldness is reversed.”

    For the record, if tax cuts cured baldness, I would have to reevaluate my commitment to my political/policy beliefs.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_11/why_pay_for_the_tax_break033797.php

  61. 224 24Sass
    November 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    This was tweeted last night:

    MMFlint Michael Moore
    This double tap of OccupyLA & OccupyPhilly by our new militarized police force I’M SURE has NOT been coordinated by anyone in DC. No way!
    9 hours ago

    Why would the OWS think MM is doing anything for them and go after PBO instead? I was furious when I saw this. One person who lives on my shit list is Michael Moore with his mealy mouthed persona and his knives in the back of PBO.

  62. November 30, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Good Morning TOD family

    Great News about the jobs report.

    Here is a video about registering voters at UC Riverside in CA

  63. November 30, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Just heard Cain say in Ohio: “America has a moral crisis.”

    Seriously.

    • 227 sherijr
      November 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm

      Yeah nothing like a guy with zero morals.. preaching to us about America’s morals.. but then ain’t nothing new in the land of the GOP.

  64. November 30, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Another startup company founded by a hard working AA woman. You go girl.

    NewMe Accelerator participants :: Tiffany Bell :: Pencil Me In
    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/11/newme-accelerator-participants-tiffany.html

  65. November 30, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Desertflower, just voted by text. I hope your kids are able to get their sound system.
    Good luck, I am rooting for you and the kids.

  66. 235 Bobfr (aka Our4thEstate)
    November 30, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Done. Text sent and acknowledged. Good luck!!

    #YesWeCanDOMoreTogether

  67. 237 FiredUpInCA
    November 30, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    I was reading up on the mic check tactic and it lead me to occupywallstreet.org extolling its virtues because it “can disrupt the most powerful people in the world and demand the attention of every person and every camera. It evades all metal detectors, x-rays and pat-downs.”

    But in the comments there was a dissenter named owsrulez who said, “It seems rather childish to me. Dunno.”

    Then an interesting exchange followed:

    owsrulez

    Isn’t disrupting conversation the same tactic Trolls use. I think we should be protest in a respectful manner.

    alouis (New York, NY)

    “Respectful?” We have to shout and expect pepper spray and beatings just in order to be heard above the corporate MSM chatter and clatter.

    owsrulez

    MLK didn’t.

    alouis

    You’re mixing apples and bananas. MLK certainly, along with his movement, faced all sorts of legal and extra legal violence. He did have to some extent the backing of some of the centers of power, like the State Deprtment that wanted the ambassadors from newly independent countries not to be humiliated when traveling throughout this country. In the end MLK got killed and the conspirators never were brought to justice. OW is wise perhaps not to put a charismatic leader out front. That person might not live very long.

    owsrulez

    Doesn’t mean we couldn’t use his tactics. He would be advising us to change many of our approaches.

    alouis

    Look, 18 mainly Democrat mayors got on the phone with each other and with Obama’s DHS to discuss, plan and coordinate an attack on OWS. MLK in fact was not universally demonized, he was something of a hero at least among liberals, and back them moe people called themselves liberals. MLK got murdered when he “left the reservation” of civil rights (fighting legalized jim crow) to champion poor people and oppose the Vietnam war.

    http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-99-mic-checks-the-1-have-we-the-people-finally/

    So alouis played himself when he said “Democrat” rather than Democratic mayors, but more importantly he exposed himself as not be credible at all when he stated the the Michael Moore and Naomi Woolf-endorsed Homeland Security conspiracy theory as fact.

    Lessons learned: 1) Not every occupier supports these mic check tactics and 2) while the movement may claim to be apolitical, it’s clear from alouis’ comments that not every individual occupier is apolitical, so it’s hard to see how they will continue to claim they are apolitical.

    • 238 bonkers
      November 30, 2011 at 1:18 pm

      Wow. The Occupy “movement” is starting to disintegrate from in-fighting which is leading to discouragement?!? What a surprise! 😉

      Well, there’s always OFA they could get involved with instead, and help support the President and Democrats who are actually tangibly fixing the things Occupiers say they are concerned about.

  68. 239 Gramiam44
    November 30, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    I just voted at Pepsi for Desertflower’s school. They were 18TH!!!!! Go, everybody!

  69. 242 desertflower
    November 30, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    OMG! Chips….I came home for lunch to this wonderful surprise!!! Tears are flowing now 🙂 Thank you more than you can ever know for helping out with my kiddos…they are SO fabulous! They DO need to be heard…in every way. Chorus, music, band, plays…spelling bees…all of it!
    I am honored to be part of this gracious, giving and caring community. Thank you all so much for all you do. Chips, I’m certain no naughty mat will be needed for you for all the days of your life!
    And to my online family….you are the best. Love you all.Thank you.

  70. 245 AnitaW
    November 30, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Voted and the art works. What a wonderful job the artist did.

  71. 247 sand
    November 30, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    This is my first time posting to this site. I love coming to the Obama Diary. Did anyone see the view today? Whoopi went off on Chris Christie.


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