afternoon all


Steve Benen: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie threw an odd tantrum yesterday, blasting President Obama for the failure of the congressional super-committee …. Part of the problem here is that Christie isn’t quite as smart as he thinks he is, and bombast can only go so far in covering up ignorance.

…. The president has tried every negotiating tactic that exists to get congressional Republicans to work on finding solutions. Obama has tried hands-on talks; he’s tried keeping his distance. The president has tried hard sells and soft sells, directly and indirectly. He’s made private appeals and public appeals. He’s made arguments based on policy, polls, and principles. He’s tried charm offensives, combativeness, and everything in between. He’s made partisan, bipartisan, tripartisan, and nonpartisan arguments, all in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, GOP leaders will be open to good-faith compromise.

And yet, nothing has worked. Nothing …. The New Jersey governor seems to believe a debt deal would come together if Republicans and the president simply sat down for candid conversations. Given that Obama has already tried this repeatedly, without success, anyone who believes such stupidity just hasn’t been paying close enough attention.

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President Obama meets with Prime Minister Mark Rutte of the Netherlands in the Oval Office, November 29


I’m tempted to post this every day for the next year 😉




Crikey, how many more “ooops” before this idiot crawls back to Texas??


Gen. Lloyd Austin, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, right, looks on as Vice President Joe Biden shake hands with the U.S. Ambassador to Iraq James Jeffrey after he arrived, in Baghdad, Iraq, Nov. 29

WH: Vice President Biden has arrived in Baghdad, Iraq. While there, the Vice President will co-chair a meeting of the U.S.-Iraq Higher Coordinating Committee. He will also meet with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, President Jalal Talabani, Speaker Osama al-Nujaifi, and other political leaders. The Vice President will also participate in, and give remarks at, an event to commemorate the sacrifices and accomplishments of U.S. and Iraqi troops.

More here


188 Responses to “afternoon all”

  1. 1 nintendowii10
    November 29, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Good afternoon!

  2. 2 rikyrah
    November 29, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    Looking good, VP BIDEN 🙂

    • 3 hopefruit2
      November 29, 2011 at 4:29 pm

      I love my VP Biden!

      • 4 HZ
        November 30, 2011 at 5:03 am

        Hopefruit2, I said the same thing as I looked at our VP. We are blessed to have two fine men, decent, intelligent, and two who also love working for the American people with much joy and appreciation. Thank you Lord, for our two beautiful men in thw WH.

        Oh, VP Joe Biden is looking nice in his jeans. You go Joe!!!!!HZ

      • 5 utaustinliberal
        November 30, 2011 at 2:28 pm

        Me too! 🙂

  3. 6 nintendowii10
    November 29, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Former Rep. Guy Molinari (R-NY) unloaded on GOP presidential frontrunner Newt Gingrich today, calling the former House Speaker “an evil person” who has “got all kinds of baggage.” Molinari, who works on Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, went on to say that “The thought that [Gingrich] could be president of the United States is appalling.” Far from the only Republican trashing the former House speaker, conservatives of all stripes have publicly grumbled about Gingrich’s record. In the last week alone, radio host Don Imus called Gingrich a “greasy, repulsive man,” longtime Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) tweeted, “RReagan was a friend of mine and you Newt are no RR,” and a Christian leader in Iowa, Cary Gordon, said, “Newt is famous for being all over the board,” before declaring, “I don’t trust him.”


    And so it begins!

    • 7 donna dem 4 obama
      November 29, 2011 at 4:09 pm

      Good more chaos in the Republican Party. Hopefully Newt will start to “take it to” Romney and it becomes a slugfest.

      • November 29, 2011 at 4:39 pm

        This will be key. Will Newt fire back – or decide to make a play for the VP gig like every other non-Huntsman in the Primary.

        • 9 donna dem 4 obama
          November 29, 2011 at 4:57 pm

          I guess it depends on if Newt is believing his own press that says he is leading in Iowa, gaining ground in NH and ahead in SC and FL. If he really believes he can beat Williard then he will take it to him. If not, he will be passive and hope for a VP spot. I think we will know shortly. The Iowa caucus is only 35 days away….

          • 10 nintendowii10
            November 29, 2011 at 5:03 pm

            Newt has already begun to attack Willard for “not being conservative enough.”

            As long as the GOP circus of fools attacks each other and not the President, all is good. That will make them even less prepared to compete with the President next year.

          • November 29, 2011 at 5:11 pm

            Iowa debate is Dec 10th I believe. We’ll know a lot more about this race from that debate and the says after as Newt will be the target and have to take all the best shots. If he’s still standing, and took swings at Mitt, than he’s legit.

          • 12 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
            November 29, 2011 at 5:13 pm

            I think we all can prepare for the Flip/Flopper KING to be the nominee. Newt winning would be a nice surprise, but Mitt has the media and money on his side. We have just got to let the American public know what they are getting with Mitt and what a dangerous RISK he would be to have in the Whitehouse. Obama/Biden 2012!!

    • 13 Debz
      November 29, 2011 at 4:31 pm

      Funny, but those comments about the Newt also apply to Mittens.

      • 14 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        November 29, 2011 at 5:17 pm

        Exactly Debz. Take Newt’s name out of that article and you would think they were talking about Mitt. Boy, this is all the disgraced party has to offer? 😯

    • 15 anniebella
      November 29, 2011 at 4:33 pm

      I love it, let the GOP clowns rip each other to pieces.

    • November 29, 2011 at 5:05 pm

      Did anybody else think of Newt’s mankini photo when reading Imus’s comment about a “greasy repulsive man.” Kind of an all-round term for the lot of them–Christie (ugh), Cain, addled Perry and less greasy, but still repulsive Willard. If someone had told me even a year ago, that the once-disgraced Speaker and serial adulterer, Newton, was a serious candidate for the R nomination, I would have thought they’d lost it. I thought the Republican party could sink no lower than Tundra Sarah, but there just isn’t any bottom they won’t go to.

    • November 29, 2011 at 6:01 pm

      but is there another debate between now and the Iowa caucuses?

  4. 21 donna dem 4 obama
    November 29, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    I love me some VP Joe. Stay safe and God Bless our Troops.

    • November 29, 2011 at 5:07 pm

      I’m so glad Joe is doing this. These last weeks must be very difficult for our troops as they deal with the tremendous job of cleaning up, while all the while itching to come home.

      • 23 HZ
        November 30, 2011 at 5:13 am

        Hi Jackie, I also thought about that when I read about the planes that are flying out bring materials out. What a job. However, we must continue to pray, light our candles, read a quote during our meditations, and focus on our energy by lifting our troops up along with their families.

        This will be such an emotional homecoming for so many childrens, and families. Let us remember them as they make this journey. Let us not get too caught up in the shopping and forget the preparations that they are making daily to bring all of this to an end. We pray for our troops and our CIC. Wisdom be granted, Lord, please. Thank you. Amen.HZ

    • November 29, 2011 at 5:21 pm

      I love him too. I read that when he was young he drove a “candy apple red” Corvette. I bet he was something else 😀

    • 25 HZ
      November 30, 2011 at 5:08 am

      Yes, Donna. Joe is looking nice. I pray he will be safe, and that he will get the business done that he was sent there to do. Coming Home Our Beloved Troops. May God keep you All safe in your journey.HZ

  5. 26 Bill
    November 29, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    Please do post “He Wants to be President” and “Mitt vs. Mitt” every day for the next year, unless Newt is the nominee.

  6. November 29, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    I just love watching those gotcha videos! Thanks! 😉

  7. 28 Linda
    November 29, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Good Grief…..save us from the stupid….

  8. November 29, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Thanks for the pictures chips- CNN is to busy interviewing Bachman(yesterday was Cain) to be bothered about doing a story about all US troops leaving Iraq. Meh!

  9. 31 Debz
    November 29, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    POTUS is looking good!! VP Biden looks pretty good too!! Good to see the VP in Iraq.

  10. November 29, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Heavens, that commander in Iraq is a Big Man!

  11. 39 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    November 29, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Chris Christie with his bloated ego will soon come down crashing if he gets nominated for the VP spot. He is a bully and the media is rewarding bullies. #obama2012

    • November 29, 2011 at 4:34 pm

      I just don’t see it – Romney/Christie would be two NE Republican Govs, and while Gingrich/Christie makes more geographic sense, it quite possibly would be the meanest ticket ever offered.

      • 41 nintendowii10
        November 29, 2011 at 4:38 pm

        Not to mention that Christie is actually liberal on some issues. Willard will need a southerner to get right wing support… only name coming to mind is Haley Barbour, although Barbour is a known southern racist. Perry would be a disaster, seeing as he doesn’t like Willard and continues to make gaffe after gaffe.

        • November 29, 2011 at 4:42 pm

          Barbour joined Rove at CrossroadsUSA SuperPAC. I think it would be tough for him to jump to a campaign after fundraising for the secret unlimited money that the SuperPAC can bring in and setting up it’s strategy and all that. Wouldn’t put it past the GOP to try it though either.

          If Huckabee endorses Romney, he could be a possibility even if they hate each other.

          • 43 HZ
            November 30, 2011 at 5:19 am

            Saintroscoe, you have a point. Remember do not put anything pass that ugly, hateful Rove. He is a mean and ugly spirited person who is not to be trusted. I feel that he has done enough damage to peoples lives in this country. He needs to leave us alone. The ugly and disrupted force that he has on peoples lives is so unforgetting and just plain shameful.

            I do not see goodness in this person, at all.HZ

      • 44 nospin
        November 29, 2011 at 6:59 pm

        Gingrich/Christie get’s my vote. It would be Mankini all the time at TOD. lol I am sure that would leave all the ladies swooning. 🙂

    • 45 anniebella
      November 29, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      Chris Christie with his bloated everything.

    • November 29, 2011 at 5:16 pm

      Also the same problems which would have made it difficult for Christie to run for president–his inability to get around and jump on stages and withstand grueling days–work for the VP spot as well. Newt and Christie together would create the most visually repellent duo in modern presidential candidate history. Mittens and Christie together would have a serious charm/charisma deficiency. Christie is a big turnoff for women voters and Romney appears to suffer from a complete absence of phernomes.

  12. 50 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
    November 29, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    On a lighter note my VP Biden is really rocking those tight jeans. But his work in Iraq is way more important and it saddens me that MSM is not covering or reporting on it. #ObamaBiden2012

    • November 29, 2011 at 4:41 pm

      I noticed those tight jeans. I can only imagine that someone washed them and put them in the laundry,and he just didn’t have anything else to wear off the plane… 😯

      • 52 HZ
        November 30, 2011 at 5:24 am

        However, theo67, our beloved VP Joe has been looking nice and slim and very easy on the eyes. We like our men in the WH tall, slim, intelligent, great smiles, and love those (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) from both of our men!!!! Keep the jeans, Mr. Vice President, Joeseph Biden. We love your new look. Looking good for 2012 Obama/Biden. Here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HZ

  13. November 29, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    What I find pretty amazing is the four minute MittvMitt ad has more than double the views of the 30 second made-for-television add.

  14. November 29, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Bachman just called Romney and Gingrich serial flip floppers! Lol!

  15. November 29, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Gen. Lloyd Austin is one big dude.

  16. November 29, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    ·.·Rock Wuz Here.·.

    FIRED UP…!!

    READY TO GO..!!! 😀

  17. November 29, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    “I’m running for office for pete’s sake” will be the 2012 version of “I was for it before I was against it”….

  18. 61 debbyeOh
    November 29, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    Christie is just trying to position himself as VP. Funny how when his state need disaster relief, he couldn’t praise the President more. Lord, how I loathe these GOPers!

  19. November 29, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    So, Casey is unlikely to join the President in Scranton in Wednesday.
    Why do Democrats run for the hills, where the President is underwater approval ratings?
    They just dint have his back, do they?

    • 67 nintendowii10
      November 29, 2011 at 4:53 pm

      This is strange, as Bob Casey is a huge Obama supporter. Scheduling conflict perhaps?

      • November 29, 2011 at 4:56 pm

        President Barack Obama may feel a little lonely Wednesday during his visit to Scranton, Pa.

        Vice President Joe Biden, a Scranton native, is traveling overseas. And now comes word that Sen. Bob Casey (D-Pa.), another favorite son of the city and Obama ally, may not be there either.

        Casey’s attendance is “unlikely,” although the schedule is in flux and he could make it, Casey spokeswoman April Mellody told POLITICO. The reason? Possible votes in the Senate, she said.

        The absence is likely to stir up a round of speculation that Casey, who faces reelection next year, isn’t going for other reasons. Republicans have been working overtime to remind Pennsylvania voters of Casey’s relationship with Obama. Casey was the first high-ranking Pennsylvania elected official to endorse Obama during the 2008 Democratic primary, and has remained an ally ever since, although the senator was critical of the president’s jobs plan.


      • 75 jacquelineoboomer
        November 29, 2011 at 5:30 pm

        One thing we learned in previous election cycles. President Obama wants Democrats to do whatever they need to do to get elected or re-elected – and if that means not hugging him at airports, he could care less.

        My take, anyway.

      • 76 Obama Grandmama
        November 30, 2011 at 1:53 am

        Atleast he was a supporter in 2008, but Casey was one of the Senators against one of the important Obama policies. I do not remember which one but remember seeing his name as a no vote and was surprised.

    • 77 anniebella
      November 29, 2011 at 5:14 pm

      Jovie, I might be the only one who feel this way, but I don’t give a dam if Bob Casey is not there to greet the President in Scranton. President Obama will be just fine.

  20. November 29, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Jake the snake Tapper says the DNC ad is misleading.
    He marks Romney as a victim!

    • 79 nintendowii10
      November 29, 2011 at 4:55 pm

      Concern Troll Tapper just wants to hear his voice… I’ve learned to ignore what ever comes out of his pie hole.

    • November 29, 2011 at 4:56 pm

      You knew this was coming. “Taken out of context” will be the charge of course. Here comes the false equivalence. When you use 3 second clips there really isn’t any context. Did the DNC take Romney quoting somebody else crop it to make it seem like his words?

      • 82 nintendowii10
        November 29, 2011 at 5:00 pm

        This is the stark contrast between President Obama and not only Willard, but any of the buffoons in the clown circus running for President. With President Obama, he won’t have to use any dirty tricks, just quote his opponents, which is what he was doing in the Willard ad… he was quoting a John McCain aide who said “If we talk about the economy, we’re going to lose.” With Willard and the other Republicans, they have to flat out LIE and DISTORT what President Obama has said and accomplished.

    • November 29, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      DNC answers Tapper’s column – http://www.democrats.org/news/press/an_open_letter_to_jake_tapper

      Seems like they were ready to defend every charge they made in the ad.

      • November 29, 2011 at 5:00 pm

        Send this to jakes twitter page!

        • November 29, 2011 at 5:05 pm

          He’ll hear it – Politico is reporting on it. I don’t know if picking a fight with the press is ever a good idea though. Even for ones seemingly trying out to be Mitt Romney’s Press Secretary already. It’s just going to cause Tapper to double down and nitpick every damn thing.

          • 86 Debz
            November 29, 2011 at 5:15 pm

            There is nothing wrong with picking a fight with a “media” who are nothing more than GOP shills. The msm started picking a fight with the administration on 1/20/09.

            • 87 donna dem 4 obama
              November 29, 2011 at 5:21 pm


              • 88 Chi
                November 29, 2011 at 8:32 pm

                The idea that we should demure and not confront the dishonest media is bullocks…

                That is exactly how we got to this point where an incredibly dishonest media has gained so much manipulative power which it it callously wields to destroy good people and elevate bad while raking in money and destroying our democracy…

                The idea that we allow painfully mediocre assholes like Jake Tapper reign supreme for fear of him retaliating by spreading more destructive lies is not only ridiculous, but simply not going to happen…

                Jake Tapper is just one more of the new wave of stenographers quickly figuring out ways to be and remain relevant by exploiting their media access using their basest characteristics to cover up for their glaring journalistic deficiencies…

                I heard him once on the Stephanie Miller show playing at being liberal while trying to be saccharin nice to Aisha Tyler…

                You know the same old game of disrespect the brilliant, dignified, hard working black President but play up to the random black celebrity to prove you aren’t racist…

                Jake Tapper is an empty, slimy, mediocre, sorry, low-life weasel desperate for any measure of relevance and his Karma will be by shortly…

                • November 29, 2011 at 8:40 pm

                  I heard him on that Stephanie Miller show, too. I had given him some credit when he was hosting Meet the Press for a brief period, because he was somewhat fair. But, he’s overall a jerk. And a GOP shill. And permanently scowling.

            • November 29, 2011 at 5:30 pm

              And MSM approval ratings are somewhere around those of Congress. It’s not well liked by most people, for the obvious reason that it doesn’t actually inform the electorate, but merely engages in covering pie fights. Villagers will say “Well, if both the right and left are angry at us, we must be doing our job”, which is the most simple minded form of sophistry. The Right hates the media because unless it becomes a complete GOP house organ it won’t be satisfied; the Left because it sees that the media is in fact a GOP house organ. Meanwhile everyone in the center sees that the media doesn’t address their concerns. So, “picking a fight with the media” might actually be a good populist strategy.

          • November 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

            saintroscoe~ here’s another good one from the link you provided to Democrats.org–a compilation of quotes by several media outlets that AGREE with the DNC about Romney’s ad.

            What They’re Actually Saying: Romney’s Ad Deceitful, Dishonest, Manipulates the Truth
            Posted by DNC Press on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 at 12:30 p.m. ET

            The New Yorker
            .@RyanLizza on Romney’s ad: If a journalist quoted someone in such a way, you’d never trust the person’s writing again: http://ow.ly/7BNEM

            Ames Tribune: “Meanwhile, GOP contender Mitt Romney has just debuted a television ad that also deceives viewers about something the president said during the 2008 presidential campaign…This is dishonest, and it does not reflect the integrity that Romney is seeking to cultivate on the campaign trail.” (The Ames Tribune, 11/23/11)

            New York Daily News: “Mitt Romney’s greatest potential vulnerability, fair or fable, is the suspicion he’ll do or say anything to get himself elected President. Which is why his new ad in New Hampshire is such a boneheaded strategic move. It feeds that dangerous perception that has dogged Romney since the 2008 campaign. The new ad is a gross distortion of the truth.” (New York Daily News, 11/22/11)

            Washington Post: “This is a truly remarkable response. The Romney camp is explicitly saying it’s totally fair game to take an opponent’s words out of context in a way that completely changes their meaning, simply because the actual words in question did come out of the speaker’s mouth. As many have noted today, the Romney ad’s decontextualizing of Obama’s words is so egregious that it amounts to a lie. Yet here a Romney adviser is claiming that this is fair game, because he said those words.” (Washington Post, 11/22/11)

            New Yorker—Why Didn’t Reporters Call Romney a Liar? “While it’s always interesting and useful to report on how a campaign believes something is going to play out, it seems to me in this case the news that the quote in the ad is falsely attributed to Obama outweighs the news of the Romney campaign’s predictable spin.” (The New Yorker, 11/22/11)



          • 92 Mae who love our CIC
            November 29, 2011 at 6:25 pm

            We not scared of Tapper. He is just one a hole of many. One thing about words are never returned void. All of his lies and the other ones lies will bite them in their butts.

        • 94 Me4obama (@Me4obama)
          November 29, 2011 at 5:08 pm

          I will send it to Jake the snake.

        • 95 donna dem 4 obama
          November 29, 2011 at 5:11 pm

          Oh darn he blocked me a while ago so I can’t send it to him. 😦

        • 97 rikyrah
          November 29, 2011 at 5:14 pm


      • November 29, 2011 at 5:12 pm

        Jake Tapper is a RW creep. He also threw a twitter tantrum at PragObots today and then blocked them for asking a question about his speculation that supporters are worrying about PBO purportedly meeting with a Catholic archbishop. He’s so thin-skinned, it’s funny.

        • 99 MsKitty
          November 29, 2011 at 5:50 pm

          The best comeback against POU he could come up with was “blind supporters of the President.” The water carriers are so cute when they try to be witty and fail miserably.

          • 100 hopefruit2
            November 29, 2011 at 6:07 pm

            The media is very threatened by PBO’s core group of supporters, which is why they (along with their Libertarian & PL friends) try to insult and intimidate us. Not only are they threatened by our unwavering support for the President, they are also threatened by our critical thinking skills, ability to do superior research and our widespread use of the Internet tools to expose their dirty lies and tricks that they were once able to get away with fairly easily. They will NOT succeed. We will prevail.

      • 104 donna dem 4 obama
        November 29, 2011 at 5:15 pm

        And whoa that is as hard hitting as I have seen us be at the press. Way to go Melanie although SR is right that now Tapper will nitpick every little thing because they hate to be called out and boy did she call him out on that one!

      • 105 MTmarilyn
        November 29, 2011 at 6:23 pm

        The letter is gone!!!!

  21. 106 Linda
    November 29, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    S&P Downgrades Goldman Sachs, Bank Of America, Wells Fargo And Citigroup to an “A-” minus rating, down from an “A” rating, CNBC reports

    • 107 donna dem 4 obama
      November 29, 2011 at 5:20 pm

      These rating companies are a joke. So now they are finally starting to do their job after these companies lousy business practices nearly took us to the brink of economic disaster. Did you know that 5 days before Lehman Brothers filed for Bankruptcy they had a Double A rating?

  22. 108 dotster3
    November 29, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    I thought Christie’s rant looked real fakey, bad acting, don’t like him and his self-centered, mean spirit. I still think Rubio will be their VP candidate though. He wraps up Fl. for them and possibly puts some other states in play. And I’ve noticed they’ve been shoving him out there for more exposure lately.

  23. November 29, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    I made the mistake of turning on the TV just in time to hear Chris Matthews and Dana Milbank say that Newt is as good or a better debater than President Obama. 😦

    • 112 nintendowii10
      November 29, 2011 at 5:28 pm

      I haven’t looked at Tweety Bird in a long time, save for a few clips on YouTube. It’s the same Tweety who is a fan of Tom Delay and Barracuda Barbie, so I would take whatever he yaps about with a grain of salt.

    • 113 dotster3
      November 29, 2011 at 5:34 pm

      I am reminded of this description of Gingrich: he is what dumb people think a smart person sounds like. I just can’t believe they will end up with someone who had to step down as speaker for ethics violations as their nominee. That is really scraping the bottom of the barrel, proof that you’ve got nothin’. And if it did come down to an Obama/Gingrich debate, I predict No Contest. In addition to Obama’s brilliance and gifted ability to respond to any question in the best way possible, he is highly appealing in manner and style. Gingrich is not appealing at all. In fact, some might say Gingrich is revolting. Like me.

      • 114 dotster3
        November 29, 2011 at 5:36 pm

        Wait—-I’m not revolting. Just the opposite, of course. 🙂 I meant some might want to throw up at the sight of Gingrich. And that “some” includes not revolting me.

      • November 29, 2011 at 6:52 pm

        I agree. I posted yesterday that I had read “people who think Newt is smart aren’t”. I was just somewhat mystified that Matthews would even make that statement. Of course, I’m not a regular viewer. It always seemed that whenever I did watch Matthews he was doing a “Mit” – blowing with the wind.

        • November 29, 2011 at 8:03 pm

          Matthews is a double dumba$$ himself so is no real judge of anyone else’s smarts. When will MSNBC put a dirty sock in his mouth and shut him down for good? I won’t watch him. He pisses me off and raises my BP!

          • 120 Lovepolitics2008
            November 29, 2011 at 9:18 pm

            Matthews is simply like so many other pundits in the Village. He equates good debater with good bully. I certainly hope that if it comes to a contest between PBO and Gingrich, people won’t be fooled. THe pundits would give Gingrich a lot of points because he would interrupt, never respect the clock, and attack with LIES and all sorts of hyperbole. The media is NOT interested in content nor in the TRUTH but simply in the theater aspect of the debates. However, we can hope the voters would be as clever as in 2008 and see beyond the BS. Remember in 2008 how the pundits always gave McCain a better assessment than the public did?

    • November 29, 2011 at 5:34 pm

      That is the conventional wisdom in conservative circles – let Matthews push it if it emboldens Republicans to want to see it.

    • November 29, 2011 at 7:07 pm

      You just have to laugh.

    • November 29, 2011 at 7:17 pm

      Newt’s big plan is to challenge Pres. Obama to Lincoln-Douglas debates around the country and if Pres. Obama turns him down, he will follow Pres. Obama around the country and give speeches 4 hours after Obama from the exact stag where Pres Obama gave his speech. He says this would force Pres. Obama to accept his LD challenge, otherwise he’d be ceding the final word to Gingrich at every stump stop.

      Newt says he’d make this challenge during his acceptance speech if he wins the nomination.

      • November 29, 2011 at 7:32 pm

        You remember how John McCain challenged then Sen. Obama to a debate on his terms and then how then Sen. Obama proceeded to clean his clock?

        • 125 jacquelineoboomer
          November 29, 2011 at 7:46 pm

          Exactly. Am I the only one that still thinks old Newt will not be their nominee? How could they pick such a ghastly person? Of course, Willard is ghastly in his own way – just the lesser of two evils, from my POV.

          • 126 nintendowii10
            November 29, 2011 at 7:55 pm

            Just reading the Republicans attack Newt from the Think Progress story I posted above just reinforces that belief that the Republican establishment don’t want Newt as the nominee. He’s burned too many bridges, dating back to his days as House Speaker. I wouldn’t put it past Rove and the establishment to begin swiftboating Newt just as they have done with Herman Cain, perhaps digging up Newt’s hypocrisy with Fannie and Freddie.

          • November 29, 2011 at 7:55 pm

            Nope. I’m 95% sure it’s going to be Mitt.

          • November 29, 2011 at 9:07 pm

            Newt is running to make money. How many decades has Newt run for President? He’s become rich “running” for President. Mitt will be the nominee.

        • November 29, 2011 at 7:55 pm

          Newt believes himself the smartest man in the world. For whatever reason some of his press clippings feed into this. This is a man who defended his affairs by saying it was a result of loving his country too much.

      • November 29, 2011 at 8:53 pm

        I don’t think Newt knows who President Obama is. He can talk just as long as the next guy, and I’m sure he’d appreciate being able to spend four hours giving long,detailed answers to complex questions. And, unlike Newt, President Obama is actually smart, so his answers would be to the point and intelligent and informed. If Newt thinks President Obama will run scared from his nonsense, then he really doesn’t know who this awesome man is. Hint: he went to Cairo and gave a speech in Mubarak’s face that launched the Arab Spring. Hint: he went into the GOP “lion’s den” and massacred them all with the facts, even drank water and told them how much he was enjoying it. Hint: he has given formal addresses to members of Parliament around the world. Hint: BP gave into a $20billion fund, without a cap, in one closed door meeting with President Obama. Newt’s biting off more than he can chew. A lot more.

        • November 29, 2011 at 9:11 pm

          All I can say is Amen. I still have President Obama bitchslapping the Repubs in their house on my DVR. They didn’t want anyone to ask questions, but the President said bring them on. Then preceded to punish each and everyone of them until Pence screamed “uncle” 😀

        • November 29, 2011 at 9:28 pm

          I’m just gonna say it, what Chris Matthews said is nothing but cocktail party beltway bullshit speak. Thats all it is. Newt Gingrich is a better debater than Barack Obama. Ok. Can you prove that with I don’t know……video of him debating. Come on, the man was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Georgia. When he was in the state, his debates were between him and a conservative Sam Nunn type of Democrat that has festered down here. And usually, there on what ails the district that they are in and what they brought back. Also add, that debates in Georgia are broadcast either on GPB on a night when popular shows are on the air, or midday Saturday on Channel 2, when people are either looking at racing, college football, going shopping, playing on XBOX 360/Wii/PS3,Playing outside, hanging with friends, having rigorous sex, you know a TYPICAL SATURDAY for people. When he became Speaker of the House, he ceased having debates with his opponents in Georgia, since his seat was always safely in a lock. He could pull a Rick Perry and still win damn near 70% in his district. So, trust me, Newt hasn’t debated SHIT since he was booted out of the Speaker’s Chair. Barack Obama, by contrast, debated in Illinois for his State Senate seat, his highly publicized U.S. Senate seat, and the Presidency. Plus, he has debated Republicans WHILE BEING PRESIDENT!!!! No contest. Chris Matthews ass is still just chapped about not being a guest at Barack Obama’s birthday party unlike his good neighbor Al Sharpton. If I were to bet, I bet a LOT of these D.C. Newspersons WISH they could ONCE have a function at the White House dedicated to THEM. Thats what Matthews “gratitude” line was about.

      • November 29, 2011 at 9:51 pm

        I’m sure the president is shaking in his boots over this little twerp’s challenge. Newt, you don’t know who you’re up against.

  24. 135 nintendowii10
    November 29, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Five weeks until Iowa? Man how time flies!

  25. November 29, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    On Tuesday, Secretary Bryson and other U.S. government officials had a valuable conversation with senior European Union (EU) leaders on ways to cooperate and achieve the Obama administration’s National Export Initiative (NEI) goals. Since the EU is America’s largest trading partner, they are key to meeting the ambitious goal of doubling exports by the end of 2014.

    The economic relationship between the EU and the United States is the largest and most dynamic in the world. The combined gross domestic product accounts for more than $30 trillion – roughly 40 percent of global GDP – and more than 800 million consumers. In 2010, bilateral trade in goods and services surpassed $873 billion. With this relationship so vital, in April 2007 the Transatlantic Economic Council (TEC) was established to provide Cabinet-level political guidance for implementation of specific work programs like intellectual property rights protection and regulatory cooperation.


  26. 137 dotster3
    November 29, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    Here’s a nice interview with the artist/former art teacher who had din with President Obama. She said she was so excited she lost her appetite and couldn’t eat. She makes chicken and noodles and brings her dish to phonebankers. I like Obama supporters.

    • 138 hopefruit2
      November 29, 2011 at 6:20 pm

      I was also thinking I could never eat in front of the President. I would stop at a burger joint and stuff my face first, and then sit down to dinner (sipping on lemon water and nothing else) with the President because God knows I couldn’t lift a fork in front of PBO!

  27. 141 Marlz (@marjgra)
    November 29, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    If you have time to read, do a search of #hermancainisthatdude on twitter! Very funny!!

  28. 142 desertflower
    November 29, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    AAHHHH….Newt won’t like this being pulled out from the “way back machine” ……it occurred to me today that there is an entire generation of people that weren’t around for Newt’s earlier antics…we’ll have to do some teaching about ole Newt!


    • November 29, 2011 at 8:24 pm

      desertflower, they should especially be made aware of his temper tantrum at being (allegedly) put at the back of the plane on some trip with President Clinton. He said, he might not have shut down the government except for that. Drunk with power, he said it made him mad. This was in 1995, I think.

      The New York Daily News immortalized it with the cartoon that has Gingrich in diapers, holding a baby bottle, stamping his little feet, and bawling his head off. Wikipedia has a picture of it — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nydailynews_newt.jpg.

  29. November 29, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    MOre stories of startup and African American business

    Pius Uzamere :: ‘Black in America’ startups: Where are they now?

  30. 148 hopefruit2
    November 29, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    The next two GOP debates are being held on Dec 10 and 15 respectively. Huntsman is in danger of not meeting the criteria to participate in either of them if he fails to make 5% or higher in a national/Iowa poll between now and December 5th. If he suddenly shoots to 5% before Dec 5th, then I know the polls are being manipulated.


    • November 29, 2011 at 7:23 pm

      It would be fishy that he’s never been over 3% in any national polls and all of a sudden a week before the debate he scores a 5% the week before the cut-off. I suspect he’ll be there though.

      Huntsman is polling 11% in NH – but his surge is locked into NH only as he’s spending every waking moment campaigning there and spending all his money there. The feeling is that should he win or place second in NH it would be enough of a boost to get him on the map in other states.

  31. 150 hopefruit2
    November 29, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Mitch Daniels doesn’t want to endorse any of the GOP clowns right now. He cites Christie’s endorsement of Romney as an example of why he shouldn’t.


  32. 151 Linda
    November 29, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Tee Hee….over at HuffPuff they have a thread up about the Obama Store and all the “swag” and how cool it is.

    Heads are exploding ……

  33. November 29, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    I read on twitter that the white hot DNC response to the insufferable Jake Tapper has been taken off their website. We gotta find out what happened. That letter was such a well-deserved strong rebuke!

  34. 176 nintendowii10
    November 29, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Willard calling 2004 John Kerry a flip flopper… can you say IRONY?

  35. November 29, 2011 at 7:45 pm


    maybe you don’t have to post Mitt Vs. Mitt everyday for the next year…

    but, everyday through the Florida primary?

    yeah…that’d be good 😉

  36. November 29, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    And Herr Cain is doubling down! Huzzah!

    In an e-mail to supporters titled “Stand With Me,” Cain asks for donations in order to help combat what he claims are false allegations of a 13-year affair with an Atlanta woman, Ginger White, who recently went to the local press with her story.

    “As you probably heard yesterday, a troubled Atlanta business woman used national media outlets to promulgate a fabricated, unsubstantiated story about a 13 year affair with me,” Cain writes. ” I am writing you today to assure you that this woman’s story is completely false.”

    Story is here: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/herman-cain-asks-for-donations-to-combat-fabricated-unsubstantiated-story.php?ref=fpblg

  37. November 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas!


    Also tomorrow:

    12:30: The First Lady welcomes military families to the White House for the first viewing of the 2011 holiday decorations

    From the Archives: Holidays at the White House
    The holidays are a special time at the White House. The President and First Lady have made it their mission to open the “People’s House” to as many Americans as possible, and this is never more true than around the holidays. Tomorrow, we’ll begin looking at the latest tidings and trimmings that make holidays at the White House so special, but to get in the mood now, check out these videos from last year’s festivities:

  38. November 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Las Vegas is taking bets- at 100-1 odds that the Media will ignore the Presidents trip to Scranton.
    Place your bets…

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