rise and shine


Today: The President departs Honolulu, Hawaii, en route to Canberra, Australia (1:30 ET)

Wednesday (Australian time): Arrives in Australia. Has a bilateral meeting with Prime Minister Gillard, the two leaders then holding a joint press conference. Attends a parliamentary dinner at the Australian Parliament House that night where he will make remarks about the U.S.-Australian relationship.

Thursday: Begins his day by laying a wreath at an Australian war memorial; meets with opposition leader Tony Abbott; addresses the Australian Parliament; visits a local primary school with PM Gillard; visits the US embassy. Leaves Canberra for Darwin. Visits a memorial to the USS Peary and lays a wreath. The President and PM Gillard together address Australian troops. That concludes the Australia portion of the visit. The President flies that night to Bali, Indonesia.

Friday: Attends a number of bilateral meetings. Meets with the Prime Minister of India and the leaders of Thailand, the Philippines and Malaysia. Meets with the ASEAN nations, the 10 Southeast Asian nations. Meets with President Yudhoyono of Indonesia; attends an East Asia dinner that night.

Saturday: The East Asian Summit takes place through the day. At its conclusion the President returns to the United States.


Bloomberg: Less than 12 months from the presidential election, the U.S. economy has moved from recovery to expansion, prompting similar shifts in President Barack Obama’s political prospects.

The unemployment rate moved downward last month ….. the number of Americans filing applications for unemployment benefits fell to the lowest level in seven months two weeks ago, a sign the recovery may be encouraging companies to limit cuts in headcount. And a private outplacement company is predicting that jobs losses in the government sector, a drag on U.S. employment, may be leveling off.

Gains in household spending, the biggest part of the economy, last quarter led economists to raise their growth forecasts for the remainder of this year and for 2012 … The services industry and manufacturing both continue to expand….

Full article here



CNN: The public is divided over the idea of requiring all Americans to have health insurance, according to a new national survey. But a CNN/ORC International Poll also indicates that support for the proposal, a cornerstone of the 2010 health care reform law, has risen since June.

…. According to the poll, 52% of Americans favor mandatory health insurance, up from 44% in June. The survey indicates that 47% oppose the health insurance mandate, down from 54% in early summer.

“The health insurance mandate has gained most support since June among older Americans and among lower-income Americans,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “A majority of independents opposed the measure in June, but 52 percent of them now favor it.”


LA Times: The day the Supreme Court gathered behind closed doors to consider the politically divisive question of whether it would hear a challenge to President Obama’s healthcare law, two of its justices, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, were feted at a dinner sponsored by the law firm that will argue the case before the high court.

….. The lawyer who will stand before the court and argue that the law should be thrown out is likely to be Paul Clement, who served as U.S. solicitor general during the George W. Bush administration.

Clement’s law firm, Bancroft PLLC, was one of almost two dozen firms that helped sponsor the annual dinner of the Federalist Society, a longstanding group dedicated to advocating conservative legal principles …

…. The featured guests at the dinner? Scalia and Thomas.

Full article here

148 Responses to “rise and shine”

  1. 1 proudmemberofglobalzero
    November 15, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Love the picture Chips…tweeted the Bloomberg Article, Have a wonderful day.

  2. 2 hopefruit2
    November 15, 2011 at 8:22 am

    I read on Twitter that Michael Moore is blaming PBO after OWS in NYC were ordered to evacuate the park. This man is truly deranged. He needs to be watched.

    • November 15, 2011 at 8:30 am

      Hiya Hopefruit, ah yes, Michael Moore, the ideologically pure guy …. well, apart from when he linked up with Goldman Sachs:


      • 4 hopefruit2
        November 15, 2011 at 8:41 am

        Thanks for the link Chips. And Notice that it was Bloomberg who ordered the police to go after the occupiers, yet MM cannot bring himself to criticize Bloomberg since Bloomy is Ralph Nader’s choice for President in 2012.

        • 5 utaustinliberal
          November 15, 2011 at 8:46 am

          Wow. MM has problems. Next; he’ll blame PBO because he always appears as though he hasn’t taken a shower in ages. How about he go confront Bloomberg who is actually the Mayor of NYC. Moore likes to pretend he’s part of the 99% but he is not. Ambulance chaser.

      • 8 FiredUpInCA
        November 15, 2011 at 9:13 am

        Apparently Michael Moore doesn’t like “Roger & Me”-style surprise journalism:

    • 18 anniebella
      November 15, 2011 at 8:44 am

      How the heck can that , let me calm down for a second. It makes no sense at all for that Michael Moore to try to blame President Obama for what happen with the OWS being evacuated in NYC. Sometimes some of this stuff is beyond belief, it’s just down right crazy. Michael Moore is against the President, he hate him, so that is why he is doing what he is doing. M. Moore is a sorry S.O.B.

      • November 15, 2011 at 10:12 am

        This is the statement released by Mayor Bloomberg which directly contradicts the lie that Moore is promoting. Dodge this, Michael Moore!~



        “From the beginning, I have said that the City had two principal goals: guaranteeing public health and safety, and guaranteeing the protestors’ First Amendment rights. “But when those two goals clash, the health and safety of the public and our first responders must be the priority. “That is why, several weeks ago the City acted to remove generators and fuel that posed a fire hazard from the park.

        “I have become increasingly concerned – as had the park’s owner, Brookfield Properties – that the occupation was coming to pose a health and fire safety hazard to the protestors and to the surrounding community. We have been in constant contact with Brookfield and yesterday they requested that the City assist it in enforcing the no sleeping and camping rules in the park. But make no mistake – the final decision to act was mine.



        • 20 prettyfoot58
          November 15, 2011 at 12:05 pm



          • 21 theo67
            November 15, 2011 at 1:09 pm

            It’s such a wasted opportunity. So much good energy that could have been mobilized to pass AJA, register voters, put pressure on Congress, pose specific demands, help people understand progressive causes. Instead, they’re celebrating simply raising awareness about corporate greed – but that doesn’t DO anything. It doesn’t add one job. It doesn’t get one banker to follow a rule. It doesn’t help homeowners who are being foreclosed. It does nothing but make people frustrated, because there’s no end game.

            The energy was good and necessary. But, it needed to be corralled and then focused on achieving something. The lack of organization and lack of a single goal or objective just wasted a valuable opportunity. And that increased level of frustration will generate apathy, which is not good for 2012, because the anti-Obama rhetoric and hi-jacking of the movement by the likes of Michael Moore will simply make people stay home. The OWS people have railed against those who have asked them for specific goals and specific action items, so people can help to achieve them. And lack of real, tangible results simply breeds apathy and turns people off.

    • November 15, 2011 at 8:56 am

      Here’s his paranoid tweet:

      @MMFlint Michael Moore
      Dozens of Occupys across US raided this weekend-& now NYC- Planned & coordinated by the Dept. of Homeland Security? Did O give green light?

      So he’s throwing this craptastic theory that Napolitano and PBO are coordinating this because why, they hate your freedom or something? First Prize for insane nonsense Drama Queen goes to MMoore and the derps that follow him.

      • 23 a4alice
        November 15, 2011 at 9:06 am

        oh thanks meta – i tweeted that article but this is better. he’s an attention seeker plain and simple.

        • 24 a4alice
          November 15, 2011 at 9:11 am

          my tweet:

          @MMFlint I get it. No one’s been paying attention 2 u 4 awhile now. You’re lonely. But do u gotta involve PBO in your quest 4 $?

        • November 15, 2011 at 10:21 am

          President Obama is a constitutional scholar who respects the law. See the difference, Michael Moore?

          BREAKING: Bloomberg served with temporary restraining order requiring reopening of Zuccotti Park to protesters at 7:50 a.m. |

          At 6:30 a.m. this morning, following a midnight police raid evicting protesters from Zuccotti Park, Justice Lucy Billings issued an order requiring the protesters to be readmitted to Zuccotti Park with their tents. ThinkProgress just spoke to one of the plantiff’s attorney’s, Gideon Orion Oliver, who confirmed that the order was served on Mayor Bloomberg and the other defendants via fax at 7:50 a.m. During his 8 a.m. press conference, Mayor Bloomberg seemed to acknowledge he was familiar with the temporary restraining order, but claimed he had not been served and was keeping the park closed. As of this writing, Zuccotti Park remains closed to protesters in direct contradiction of Justice Billing’s order.


          h/t Judd Legum

      • November 15, 2011 at 2:54 pm

        Thanks for this meta, I was asking for a verbatim of what Moore had tweeted about blaming PBO.

    • 30 SueBee
      November 15, 2011 at 9:20 am

      Yeah..this is whathe said on twitter

      • November 15, 2011 at 9:41 am

        Update on the Occupy Wall Street eviction from Zuccotti Park:

        A New York judge on Tuesday issued a temporary restraining order allowing protesters to return to Zuccotti Park only hours after police forcibly removed them, arresting dozens. The order by Justice Lucy Billings set a hearing date for Tuesday at 11:30 a.m. and said that until the matter was considered at that hearing, the city and Brookfield Properties, the owners of Zuccotti Park, would be prohibited from evicting protesters or “enforcing ‘rules’ published after the occupation began or otherwise preventing protesters from re-entering the park with tents and other property previously utilized.” It was not immediately clear what effect the order would have on the protesters meeting in nearby Foley Square. Some had advocated returning to the park.

        Quote of the day from Bloomberg: “No right is absolute.” During press conference, he announces Zuccotti Park was reopened at 8 a.m and protesters were allowed back in, but after the judge issued a restraining order, the protesters were again asked to leave.


      • November 15, 2011 at 10:03 am

        Don’t forget, when someone posts an illustrated tweet like this you can click directly on the Reply link and respond. I just sent him this:

        @MMFlint Ooooooo, I smell a new plot line for a new documentary. Will Goldman Sachs underwrite your work this time, too? $$$$$$$ #grifter

      • November 15, 2011 at 2:55 pm

        Even better! Thanks SueBee~

    • November 15, 2011 at 2:12 pm

      Hi hopefruit, I don’t do twitter but would love to have a shot of a tweet that has Moore blaming PBO for the closing down of OWS in NY. I would pass it on to those who defend Moore. This is indefensible. Busted, imv.

    November 15, 2011 at 8:24 am


  4. 47 globalcitizenlinda
    November 15, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Justice Roberts is one person who gives me the vibe that he has a personal envy of President Obama and will try to undermine PBO if he can.

    I suspect that he and the other conservatives on the US Supreme Court will vote to undermine the AHCA.

    At a practical level, we may need to have a back up so that if they undermine AHCA. For instanc, we can mobilize to completely re-shape the healthcare industry by putting Medicare for All on the Ballot.

    • 48 utaustinliberal
      November 15, 2011 at 8:41 am

      Even if the individual mandate is declared unconstitutional, it does not affect ACA as a whole. Insurance companies will be the one who bear the brunt of the huge inflow of people who can get healthcare when they become sick and can’t be denied due to no denial of insurance based on pre-existing clause put into ACA. Plus more young people will still remain on their parents healthcare plans. More women will still be covered for preventive conditions. More women will qualify for free birth control and on and on and on. Every report I’ve watched on this SC case has said that the mandate will most likely be found constitutional or else the SC will have opened a whole can of worms about the commerce clause. Even the healthcare industry is coming out and saying they fervently hope the individual mandate stands. So I’m just going to wait and see. A whole bunch of appellate courts both conservative and liberal alike have found it constitutional, so I happen to think and hope the SC will also.

    • November 15, 2011 at 8:42 am

      Judging by what happened last time, I dont think this President will try comprehensive hcr a second time.
      Maybe tinkering around the edges, piecemeal approach?

      • 51 anniebella
        November 15, 2011 at 8:51 am

        Still no word if FLOTUS will be heading back to D.C. or going with POTUS to Australia. I guess we will have to wait and see. Safe travel for both FLOTUS and POTUS how ever way it turns out.

        • 52 donna dem 4 obama
          November 15, 2011 at 8:58 am

          Going home from work last night around 7:30PM there was a large stream of limos and police cars on the 11th street bridge that had traffic at a complete stand still and they were headed back into DC from Andrews AFB. I concluded it was FLOTUS coming back from Hawaii since VP Joe was in town yesterday and we had no other big dignitaries in the city since the President was out of town. I could be wrong but my guess is she is back here in DC.

  5. November 15, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Every economic report puts the European economy as a sword of Damocles hanging over our head. I hope the president can mitigate most of the consequences of a European failure with the trade deals in Asia and South America. Plus maybe some of the newly emerging middle eastern countries will become trading partners. But I do wish Europe would wake up and get its act together.

    Sometime after his second term, I wish the president would tell us how he can make all these time-zone spanning trips, speak brilliantly on every subject and not collapse. I know he has way above average energy and a superior mind, but it seems almost super human to do so much and not show any wear and tear. The only time he really looks tired is when he’s spent a few hours in a room with a lot of bull-headed Republican cretins.

    • 54 theo67
      November 15, 2011 at 1:13 pm

      I’ve wondered this, as well. I’m destroyed by jet lag on the second day of any trip, but he just gets up and keeps moving at a break-neck speed, and speaks intelligently. Cain should take note.

  6. 55 Fred
    November 15, 2011 at 9:04 am

    good morning TOD family.May God watch over POTUS;blesses him and may those meetings be successful.May FLOTUS have a safe trip back

  7. 56 MTmarilyn
    November 15, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Good morning Chips & TOD family. Can’t wait to see those beautiful pictures of Australia. It’s cold and snowy here in MT. Did the FLOTUS get home safely? And prayers for safe travels for the POTUS. Have a great day everyone!

  8. 57 donna dem 4 obama
    November 15, 2011 at 9:11 am

    Hopefruit2 let me guess, MM wants the President to send in the National Guard to protect OWS’s right to protest.

    I just don’t get this. Why do they think they can “Occupy” spaces forever. I am old enough to remember “Resurrection City” that took place after the assassination of MLK. It was the Poor Man’s March on Washington and they were going to occupy the National Mall until Congress did something about the poor. They were shut down within days of taking over that space.

    Yes we have a right to protest, we have a right to free speech and we should when the cause is right there should be civil disobedience but to what end…..What do they want and how do they plan to get it. Just camping out and drawing attention is fine but what will it win you.

    The young lady who got BOA and other banks to stop the debit fees did it by organizing on Facebook and Twitter. Her protest was successful. OWS could learn something about her actions. They have raised the awareness of the abuses of WS and with the Presidents help changed the conversation from debt and deficits to Jobs but now what? They mock those of us that ask this question but because they don’t seem to have a purpose they will continue to get thrown out of these parks city after city.

    They need to DO SOMETHING!

    • 58 donna dem 4 obama
      November 15, 2011 at 9:13 am

      I forgot to say good morning everyone. Sorry for the rant..now I’m off to work.

    • 59 taiping1
      November 15, 2011 at 10:40 am

      They are insensitive to local businesses who have suffered and devastating impact to city budget of public safety costs. In Oakland we can ill afford diversion of attention from other areas of the city. Two conventions in downtown were also cancelled. On a different note NYT has a front page story on how youth are no longer enthusiastic about PBO

      • 60 donna dem 4 obama
        November 15, 2011 at 11:24 am

        I saw that article this morning 😦

        Those young people were an important cog in the wheel of success that we had in 2008. Our President walked into an absolute mess and the youth as well as the rest of this country had these unrealistic expectations that he would fix things overnight. People just don’t understand how economics work because it takes a long time to recover from what happened to this country in 2008.

        They will vote for him next year but we probably won’t be able to count on all of them coming back to work on his campaign. Times are tough and our youth are especially feeling the pain of this recession. Messina is right that we will have to go after the newer youth that have come of age and are still enthusiastic about helping him remain President. We’ve seen their enthusiasm when he has visited campuses this year. We need that energy and drive but most of all we need those votes.

      • 61 nospin
        November 15, 2011 at 11:47 am

        NYT also ran stories on how:
        blacks are no longer enthusiastic about PBO
        women are no longer enthusiastic about PBO
        hispanics are no longer enthusiastic about PBO
        white women are no longer enthusiastic about PBO
        little people are no longer enthusiastic about PBO
        folks with red purses are no longer enthusiastic about PBO
        people over 6 feet tall are no longer etc. etc. etc. but you get where I am going with this. So I am not paying attention to that stuff until AFTER the Republican election of their nominee.

        • 62 eveingeorgia
          November 15, 2011 at 12:24 pm

          Right you are, Nospin. How, I wonder is PBO ahead of Romney by 6, Cain(?) by 9, the rest by double digits if all that enthusiasm has been lost. This in a sluggish economy too? Somebody is trying hard to depress us.

        • November 15, 2011 at 2:16 pm

          I’m sure they’re not through yet..it’s only 2011. They propaganda pushes a$$es need to be twittered with counter information.

          Hallelujah for the Tweeters! 😛

  9. November 15, 2011 at 9:18 am

    How The Great Recession Is Killing America’s Future
    Robert Hiltonsmith summarizes a new report on the recession’s lasting consequences:

    Rising debt, un- and underemployment, and dim job prospects have forced many Millennials to postpone the key decisions that historically marked entry into adulthood. Nearly half of the 25- to 34-year-olds surveyed said they’ve put off purchasing a home; 29 percent say they’ve delayed starting a family; and 26 percent still live with their parents. These decisions have long-lasting effects.

    Someone who is forced to delay purchasing a home until their 30s will likely not have that house paid off by the time they retire in their late 60s. Those who have to put off starting a family will still be paying for kid-related expenses until their late 50s or early 60s (or later, if their own children are unemployed and living with them in their 20s). Millennials’ parents, the Baby Boomers, were able to buy their first homes and start their careers and families in their late teens and early 20s, right out of high school or college, with little or no debt.


  10. 66 dotster3
    November 15, 2011 at 9:18 am

    Rubio is telling fellow Repubs to “tone it down” with their anti-illegal immigration rhetoric. I guess he feels that if they keep talking about erecting electric fences etc. that Hispanics will not be so keen on voting for the Repub ticket. Recent poll shows that 72% of Hispanics feel Repubs either don’r care about their concerns or are hostile to their concerns. There is increasing speculation that Rubio is positioning himself for a VP slot. He’s attempting to soften the anti-immigrant rhetoric while not alienating the tea party conservatives who are pro harsh anti-illegal immigration laws and who swept him into office. Rubio has a Mitt-flip problem, having changed positions with the prevailing winds on many core issues. And he has a truth problem, embellishing/lying about his family’s history. And he had a big GOP credit card problem, used it as some kind of slush fund for all kinds of personal purchases—–family vacations, meals, groceries, wine, car lease payments, new carpet etc. Ethically-challenged.

    • 67 desertflower
      November 15, 2011 at 9:31 am

      I think that bus left the station already! I swear these guys are so arrogant and condescending… do they really think that Hispanics haven’t been paying attention? Let them talk…they don’t deserve the Hispanic vote, and they know it! Let them stew in their ugly.

    • 68 conlakappa
      November 15, 2011 at 10:04 am

      I think he wants them to tone it down for his own personal benefit: the more they bring it up, the more people like to him for comment, opening the possibility of his stuff coming out. I thought the credit card thing was old news. Like explained away during his campaign news.

    • November 15, 2011 at 10:22 am

      And yet he supported the Arizona law and voted against the dream act.

    • November 15, 2011 at 11:34 am

      Senator Anchor Baby hasn’t stood up against NOT ONE

      of the

      WHAT ABOUT IF YOU AIN’T WHITE, DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND laws that his fellow GOPers have passed.

      NOT ONE.

  11. November 15, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Protesters Evicted from Zuccotti Park
    Posted on 11/15/2011 at 7:00 am by Bob Cesca

    I tweeted this last night, but it bears repeating:

    The worst trespass in America is to challenge the financial elite. We’re taught from day one to buy their crap, and to never talk back.

    Occupy Wall Street is a threat to ongoing consumer complacency in the face of corporate overreach and power consolidation. In the eyes of the masters, this cannot stand. So the protesters were evicted.

    But I sure hope they’ll be back.


  12. 73 edp4bho
    November 15, 2011 at 9:24 am

    So who was the idiot who said PBO was being ignored at the G20 Summit recently, the idiot who said PBO has a “people problem”, the idiot who said PBO is worried about his re-election prospects? From the looks of that top pic, he really should worry more, right?/ snark !!

  13. November 15, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Here is the 411 on FLOTUS-

    By Lynn Sweet on November 15, 2011 7:36 AM | No Comments
    WASHINGTON–Former First Ladies Barbara Bush and Laura Bush and Chicago’s Susan Sher, former chief of staff for First Lady Michelle Obama highlight a Tuesday conference on the East Wing at the George Bush Presidential Library Center at Texas A&M University.
    There is an entire field of study of First Ladies: Last March, Anita McBride, Executive in Residence at the Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies at American University and former Chief of Staff to First Lady Laura Bush–an organizer of the conference–put together a program at A.U. Sher, at the A.U. event told of Mrs. Obama’s life in the White House “bubble.”


  14. November 15, 2011 at 9:26 am

    The Australian media is still reporting that Michelle will be on the trip – eg:

    Air Force One will touch down at Canberra’s RAAF Fairbairn base about 3.30pm today, where Mr Obama and his wife Michelle will be greeted by Governor-General Quentin Bryce.



    • November 15, 2011 at 9:30 am

      Me too- but look at this video of michelle at the roundtable discussion-


      • November 15, 2011 at 9:32 am

        Ooooh, nice site! Thanks Jovie.

      • November 15, 2011 at 9:34 am

        And this—

        WASHINGTON–While First Lady Michelle Obama is in Hawaii, the Obama re-election team sent out an e-mail in her name launching “Women for Obama”–which snared Mrs. Obama as chairman. What the e-mail functions as, one finds out in a click, is a fund-raising pitch to women.
        Near midnight Monday eastern time–but still very Monday in Hawaii, Mrs. Obama said in the e-mail sent to a campaign e-mail list, “today, we are officially launching Women for Obama — and I am incredibly honored to be serving as its chair. This is a special group dedicated to growing this campaign from the ground up. Because we know better than anyone that movements for real and lasting change have got to start at the grassroots — and they’re sustained by the relationships we develop with one another. Together, that’s what we’re going to do — build relationships with supporters, new and old, and grow this campaign — one woman at a time.”


        We are trying chips, trying to locate Michelle! Lol!

        • November 15, 2011 at 9:37 am

          “We are trying chips, trying to locate Michelle! Lol!”

          😆 I just feel sad for all the photographers waiting in Canberra to greet here 😳

          • November 15, 2011 at 9:46 am

            Hey chip,
            The coastline I’d austrailia is beautiful, Darwin, Canberra.
            But you go inland, into the brush- it’s actually quite dangerous, fires, indigenous natives and hostile wildlife.
            You ever been there?

            • November 15, 2011 at 10:03 am

              Hi Jovie, I was lucky enough to visit Australia about 10 years ago, spent some time in Perth and Melbourne. I’d love to go back some day, there are so many amazing places to visit that I’ve heard wonderful things about. Really adored Melbourne, Perth not so much. Have you visited there a lot?

              • November 15, 2011 at 10:10 am

                Just a few times in the outback. Nice people in austrailia.
                Yeah, if I could afford it, I would buy a house there.

                • 92 anniebella
                  November 15, 2011 at 11:29 am

                  I feel sorry for the people of Australia. Not to get the chance meet our wonderful,beautiful, smart, funny, cute, down to earth, caring, First Lady. Sorry for you guys down under. Maybe doing President Obama next four years.

  15. November 15, 2011 at 9:31 am

    Good morning, TODville.

    Check your email and don’t forget to join Women for Obama to participate in the conference call with FLOTUS on Thursday afternoon.

  16. November 15, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Good morning all. Chips, thank you so much for all your threads. I could not keep up with our President and current events if not for you.

    Please join me in lighting a candle for our President as he travels outside of the country, especially for his time in Indonesia.


  17. 98 halo
    November 15, 2011 at 9:44 am

    when will pbo land in austrailia?

  18. November 15, 2011 at 9:47 am

    More Bad News For Murdoch’s News International

    Some bad news for News International: an investigation launched after the phone hacking scandal came to a head over the summer suggests that the illegal practice spread much further than originally thought, the BBC reports.

    In all, almost 30 News of the World employee names were written in the notes of private investigator Glenn Mulcaire, who was arrested and convicted of phone hacking for the now-defunct British tabloid. Mulcaire also wrote The Sun and the Daily Mirror in his notes, which the BBC reports might suggest Mulcaire did work for those papers, as well. A Trinity Mirror spokesman told the BBC that “the company has no knowledge of ever using Glenn Mulcaire.”



    h/t David Taintor

  19. November 15, 2011 at 9:53 am

    Negotiators approve spending package

    House and Senate negotiators have agreed on the details of a spending package that will keep the federal government running until Dec. 16–and fund five major federal departments through all of fiscal 2012, staffers announced Monday night.


    This conference committee agreed to keep the entire government open for another month, funding federal operations at the level set in the debt-ceiling agreement in early August. That agreement calls for government to be funded at a level that would allow $1.043 trillion in “discretionary” spending, a decrease of $7 billion versus the previous year.


    h/t David Fahrenthold

  20. 105 a4alice
    November 15, 2011 at 9:54 am

    here’s an interesting article from twitter:


    It seems that Supreme Court Judges Scalia and Thomas went to a dinner that was hosted in part by a law firm that is going to argue against “Obamacare” Probably a Lawyer named Clement (see below) will make the argument to throw health care out.


    Clement’s law firm, Bancroft PLLC, was one of almost two dozen firms that helped sponsor the annual dinner of the Federalist Society, a longstanding group dedicated to advocating conservative legal principles.


    Now you guys, in light of this, shouldn’t these two judges be recusing (sp?) themselves? aren’t they disqualified to hear an argument? or am I wrong?

    • 106 Linda
      November 15, 2011 at 10:05 am

      Isn’t that the firm that Boehner hired to defend DOMA at first ?

      • 107 a4alice
        November 15, 2011 at 10:09 am

        really? I don’t know but it just seems odd to me that a judge could be involved in something like that and still hear an argument by the law firm that’s hosting their dinner……

    • 108 Dakota
      November 15, 2011 at 10:45 am

      Rev. Al had a whole segment about this on his show yesterday. They were hob-nobbing with the attorney (who was once Scalia’s law clerk) and who is likely to be the one to argue against HCR. And we all know how entrenched Thomas’ wife is in the Tea Party.

    • 111 theo67
      November 15, 2011 at 1:24 pm

      And yet, the right wing are trying to get Elena Kagan to recuse herself – for no good reason!

      • November 15, 2011 at 2:35 pm

        That’s what they do…attack when they are the ones who are actually doing it. Muddy the waters ..smoke and mirrors with the corporatemedia and gopolitico’s invaluble HELP.

        “Blame it on the Democrats.”..because Lying Weasles can’t take responsibility.

  21. November 15, 2011 at 9:57 am

    War savings and debt reduction: Take two

    The congressional “supercommittee” is looking to count as budget savings as much as $700 billion that the nation no longer plans to spend on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan over the next decade, an accounting gimmick that has drawn fire from both Democrats and Republicans.

    In deference to that criticism, aides from both parties said the panel would not count war savings toward its primary debt-reduction goal of at least $1.2 trillion. Instead, they are considering using the savings to “pay for” other priorities, such as extending emergency unemployment benefits and a temporary payroll tax cut currently enjoyed by every American worker.



    h/t Lori Montgomery

  22. 114 dotster3
    November 15, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Shocking development! A decent Obama story on Politico! Chips, please reveal your politico page nightly. I think it worked!:

    • 115 donna dem 4 obama
      November 15, 2011 at 10:13 am

      This is their MO. Just like the cable shows they throw us a bone every now and then to make it seem like they are not bias or to keep us coming back in search of that next “positive piece on PBO” but in reality they are few and far between.

      But our Chips did indeed nail them last night 🙂

    • November 15, 2011 at 10:21 am

      Ha! I think Donna’s right, Dotster, it’s classic Politico – they produce the occasional positive piece just to try and give the impression they’re, um, fair and balanced. 🙄

      • 118 hopefruit2
        November 15, 2011 at 10:44 am

        And this piece was also probably in response to your brilliant expose last night! We will NOT be fooled. Keep up the fantastic work Chips.

    • November 15, 2011 at 2:46 pm

      Roger Simon forgot to add..”And, what a brilliant smile he has!” 😀

      I’m glad he added this though..

      “I don’t think it requires us to go negative in the sense of us running a bunch of ads that are false or character assassinations,” he said. “We may just run clips of the Republican debates verbatim. We won’t even comment on them; we’ll just run those in a loop.”

      I know gopolitical is mostly anti-Obama but for a pro one this ugly stark reality for idiot robot brigade AKA the goprimary candidates.

  23. November 15, 2011 at 10:18 am

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Retail sales rose broadly in October, suggesting the economy started the fourth quarter with some vigor, and the first drop in wholesale prices in four months pointed to subsiding inflation pressures.

    Total retail sales increased 0.5 percent, the Commerce Department said on Tuesday, after rising 1.1 percent in September. That was above economists’ expectations for a 0.3 percent rise.

    In a separate report, the Labor Department said its producer price index fell 0.3 percent last month after rising 0.8 percent in September. Economists had expected the PPI to fall only 0.1 percent.

    “The data are uniformly positive,” said Eric Green, chief U.S. economist at TD Securities in New York. Retail sales “is more than enough to keep the economy going. They continue to push back the recession fears that began this summer.”


  24. November 15, 2011 at 10:40 am

    HONOLULU (Reuters) – President Barack Obama will unveil plans to deepen America’s military presence in the Asia-Pacific region during a trip starting on Wednesday to Australia, where he aims to bolster ties with a staunch U.S. ally.

    The winding down of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq has opened the door to greater U.S. attention to simmering tension over the South China Sea, a shipping lane for more than $5 trillion in annual trade that the United States wants to keep open.


  25. November 15, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Good things keep happening as POB keeps doing his great job: Great announcement today:


    Hope I did this correctly.HZ

  26. November 15, 2011 at 10:47 am

    VIDEO: “Personhood” amendment could come up again in 2012

    …Mississippi’s Governor-Elect Phil Bryant (R) is now saying that the personhood proposal or something similar may “resurface in the 2012 legislature.”[…]

    [O]ther states are jumping on the personhood bandwagon including Arkansas, Ohio, Montana, Florida, Nevada, California, and Alabama.



    h/t GottaLaff

    • November 15, 2011 at 11:58 am

      It is simply a ruse to drive their wingnuts tot he polls next Nov. But they forget it will drive us too to the polls. They think they can replicate the trick Bush used in 2004 to drive anti-gay firebreathers to the polls which got him squeaking in a re-election

  27. November 15, 2011 at 11:05 am

    How the GOP Became the Party of the Rich

    The inside story of how the Republicans abandoned the poor and the middle class to pursue their relentless agenda of tax cuts for the wealthiest one percent

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-gop-became-the-party-of-the-rich-20111109#ixzz1dn4H0ryI

    h/t Tim Dickinson

  28. 127 Brittany
    November 15, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Michael Bloomberg IMO should respect the court order that allows the OWS people back into Zucotti Park, because it looks like he is acting like a tyrant, by not respecting the order, and not allowing media to film at the park.

    • 128 hopefruit2
      November 15, 2011 at 11:21 am

      He’s acting like a tyrant knowing that the cowardly so-called leaders at OWS will not hold him accountable one iota. Michael Moore is already blaming President Obama while letting Bloomberg off the hook. Ralph Nader who is also associated with OWS wants the same Mayor Bloomberg to run for President in 2012. How does OWS explain this?

    • 129 Desraye
      November 15, 2011 at 11:25 am

      He is letting them stay in the park.

      • 130 hopefruit2
        November 15, 2011 at 11:34 am

        Yes but why are MM and some others dragging the President into this? I thought they said that they didn’t want any politicians in their business. It seems like they’re trying their hardest to get the President caught up in this at all costs.

        • 131 Jessica
          November 15, 2011 at 11:45 am

          Oh so now they want his help?? But I thought he was a big bad bankster?? Can’t have your cake and eat it too. The Prez is in Australia working on increasing trade in the Pacific. He has actually work to do.

        • 133 Desraye
          November 15, 2011 at 11:59 am

          What can PBO do? This is a city issue not a federal issue.Also some of the residents and businesses are upset with OWS.

        • 134 nospin
          November 15, 2011 at 12:01 pm

          This doesn’t look good. These individuals are projecting an image of entitlement.

          I am still holding out on my final thoughts on OWS because there are groups that actually have an agenda and are interested in finding solutions to the issues. Others not so much. Ari is not helping.

          If he can’t hang with the big dogs, he needs to sit himself down on the porch.

        • 135 donna dem 4 obama
          November 15, 2011 at 12:25 pm

          Yeah Right?

          Today they want him to say something and tomorrow they will be marching in the street calling him a puppet of wall street.

          This is a state matter let them handle it.

          A friend of mine directed me to dailykos (I know…I know) to a comment someone gave this morning to the whole issue of OWS occupying that space illegally. It sums up things the way I understand the law as well. I will not link to Kos but here is the comment:

          “In this area, the long line, stretching over decades (back to 1941) of many many cases is correct.
          Remember, without these “time, place, and manner” rules allowing governments to regulate behavior, then “buffer zones” around abortion clinics would be illegal. What makes them legal is the ability of government to regulate behavior in time, place, and manner restrictions.

          If not, we as a society simply could not function. Group after group would be shutting down areas of cities repeatedly. No one could ever go on the National Mall, as it would continually be overrun by groups protesting something. Groups unhappy with state government would “protest” blocking entrances to government buildings that supply services to constituents. If they could, the Tea Party would protest by surrounding such buildings and prevent governments from “spending money” on the poor through social services. The only think that keeps these kinds of things from happening repeatedly is the ability of the government to impose time, place, and manner restrictions.

          Your First Amendment rights do not allow you to impede on the rights of others to an orderly, functioning society. The way that the government maintains an orderly, functioning society is through things like time, place, and manner restrictions.”

          I don’t agree with the over the top military style of removal that Bloomberg used this morning but I don’t think that they are going to win this case based on their First Amendment Rights and who would know that better than our President. Just sayin….

  29. November 15, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Historically black college students help to defeat the “Personhood” law in Mississippi.


  30. November 15, 2011 at 11:35 am

    November 15, 2011 9:25 AM

    Scalia, Thomas fail to inspire confidence

    By Steve Benen

    I really wish Supreme Court justices would at least make an effort to avoid the appearance of impropriety. (thanks to R.P. for the tip)

    The day the Supreme Court gathered behind closed doors to consider the politically divisive question of whether it would hear a challenge to President Obama’s healthcare law, two of its justices, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, were feted at a dinner sponsored by the law firm that will argue the case before the high court.

    As the L.A. Times report noted, lower-court judges would risk ethics violations by taking similar actions — but Scalia and Thomas are not bound by the same code of conduct.

    And all of this might be slightly less disconcerting were it not for the even larger context, including Scalia and Thomas having attended a conservative strategy session hosted by Koch Industries last year.

    Maybe we’ll all be very pleasantly surprised, but by any reasonable measure, can anyone have confidence in Scalia’s and Thomas’s objectivity?


  31. 139 dotster3
    November 15, 2011 at 11:52 am

    I know Bill Maher is not everyone’s cup of tea, but he was just a guest on The View, and Elisabeth Hasselbeck used his whole segment to just yell at him about some personal grievance. She was at her most irritating and infuriating, way over the top, ranting at him at a mile a minute. No one knew what to do with her, how to stop her. Maher did manage to sneak in that watching the Republican debates only further solidified his support for President Obama.

    • 140 anameti
      November 15, 2011 at 12:03 pm

      That was something, Elisabeth just went on and on about past grievances. Like most republicans, she can dish dirt but is unable to take it

    • 141 Fred
      November 15, 2011 at 12:13 pm

      as soon as she mentioned the Lara Logan thing I switched the channel;I couldn’t be bothered with either idiots but I did hear Maher say the was FOR POTUS

    • November 15, 2011 at 12:29 pm

      I quit watching The View because I can’t stand Hasselbeck. I find her strident, nasty and just plain stupid. Why they tolerate her is beyond me. She has nothing to offer but a blond bobble head.

  32. 143 Jessica
    November 15, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Oh wow Hasselbeck is trending. LOL!

  33. 145 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    November 15, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    hmmm……………most TODers seem to be a little miffed at the Supreme Court and their underhandedness and why they are working the ACA now. PBO and his administration must be confident they will get a favorable ruling for they are the ones who have brought it to the Supreme Court attention. I’m sure the Obama team has not forgotten Bush 2000 and the United ruling that has effected our politics for the forseeable future. I guess I have faith in PBO’s wisdom. More will be revealed in the upcoming months. 😎 Obama/Biden 2012.

    • 146 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      November 15, 2011 at 12:24 pm

      …………that being said, just a thought here…..maybe PBO is trying to expose the Supreme Court to the world just like he has the corrupt Congress. Stay tuned folks. 😉

      • November 15, 2011 at 12:44 pm

        I had not considered that, Keith. Very interesting thought. I had been thinking that he wanted to give SCOTUS the opportunity to do the right thing and put this question of the constitutionality of the mandate to bed once and for all. Can you just imagine the can of worms we will have if they don’t? Other mandates such as auto insurance, seat belt laws etc. will be called into question.

        Here’s an interesting little tid bit. I was living in Mississippi when they did not require car insurance. Louisiana passed their auto insurance mandate and told people from Mississippi that they would be arrested and fined if they got stopped driving in Louisiana without insurance. Lots of people from Miss shopped across the line in LA on a regular basis. LA actually set up road blocks for a while checking that people had proof of ins. I don’t know what Miss eventually did because we moved from the state shortly there after but it was all pretty nasty for a time.

        • 148 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          November 15, 2011 at 12:53 pm

          Yep, granny we shall see where this review of the ACA leads. State insurance laws are kind of the same. Interesting if the SC rules against ACA it will open up a lot of laws for scrutiny.

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