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  1. November 6, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Wanker of the Day: Kathleen Parker
    by BooMan
    Sun Nov 6th, 2011 at 12:08:39 AM EST

    There is so much damn talent in this country and so many really smart, incisive people that I just get incensed reading the bullshit that nitwits are getting paid six figures to write on the editorial pages of our most prestigious newspapers. Kathleen Parker is a prime example. This column is in the guise of telling hard truths to both parties, so the Republicans naturally come in for some criticism. Let’s watch her set this up with some truly breathtaking false equivalence. But first, let me ask you a question. What’s the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire? Did you answer “Not much”? Good, you’re normal.

    Republicans aren’t mistaken when they say that President Obama is declaring class warfare. He’s been working that turf with a pretty big shovel. How many times have we heard that millionaires and billionaires (as though there were no difference) refuse to pay their fair share?

    But Republicans are also playing the class card when they insist with equal passion that half of all Americans pay no taxes. Missing from this statement is the word “income,” which would make the assertion truer. But it’s more effective to imply that half the country — i.e., the shiftless and dependent — only want something for nothing.

    What happens when you win an argument based on half-truths? In politics, it doesn’t matter. Winning is all that matters. In real life, the people lose.

    Here’s your first hint that something is wrong. The Republicans are telling a lie, but Parker suggests how they could make that lie truer. The president is stating an opinion, and her only complaint is that millionaires are getting lumped in with billionaires. This is clearly two sides of a coin, right?


    • 2 Fred
      November 6, 2011 at 4:11 pm

      she’s a wanker alright!

      good afternoon;evening and night my TOD family and let’s not forget the OBL thing on NG at 7-8pm depending on where you are.TONIGHT 😉

  2. 3 nintendowii10
    November 6, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    As much as I don’t want to link HuffyFluffy, here’s Orange Boner saying that his relationship with POTUS has become “frosty”


    No shit Mr. Weeper of the House… did you expect President Obama to remain warm and fuzzy with you after you and your GOP cronies have done everything possible to block him from getting his agenda accomplished?

    • 4 anniebella
      November 6, 2011 at 4:25 pm

      Frosty? No weeping Boehner there is no relationship, when people stab you in the back time and time again, when they tell you one thing to your face and get in public and say and do something else. This President have had it up to here with Boehner and his lying no good Republicans. And I don’t blame him.

    • 5 utaustinliberal
      November 6, 2011 at 4:37 pm

      No shit exactly. Did he think that his continued back biting and petty undermining of the President would guarantee a hunky-dory relationship? What f*cking planet does he live on?

    • 6 Doreen
      November 6, 2011 at 4:43 pm

      After Boehner backstabbed the President with the debt ceiling “grand bargain” deal, he can forget the niceties!

    • 7 PurpleShoesLA
      November 6, 2011 at 6:19 pm

      What??? No crying? No orange crocodile tears? All this article does is confirm for me once again that our Prez is the only adult in the room. I don’t know what’s funnier the lame ass attempt to paint PBO as the bad guy engaging in class warfare, the fact that he’s essentially whining on TV about his itty bitty feelings being hurt; or the fact that he believes that he actually has a relationship with the Prez that could become frosty. Please. This whole article made me laugh out loud but particularly this statement:

      “And I’ve told the president, and I’m the most straight-up transparent person in this town, that I would never mislead him, that my word is my bond.”

      Really? you really think people aren’t going to see this for the total codswallop that it is? Newsflash, Boner, this isn’t high school, this isn’t “Mean Girls”. PBO’s been out and about the last two weeks doing his job AND yours; effortlessly I might add. He’s been a little busy. And, you are not transparent (neither figuratively or literally), you are ORANGE, you moron. The tanning bed’s done fried your brain along with your so-called laser focus on job creation. 🙂

      • 8 nintendowii10
        November 6, 2011 at 6:30 pm

        What’s even more revealing is how Orange Boner and his cronies say that it’s President Obama and the Democrats fault that economic recovery is sluggish, yet Orange Boner and his cronies wasted endless time with funding the government, making the debt ceiling a political shenanigan, voting for the disastrous Paul Ryan Vouchercare budget, voting to defund Planned Parenthood and NPR, endless abortion and pro rape bills, wasted money on defending DOMA, and the recent vote for “In God We Trust” which wasn’t a threat.

        Normally, ANY incumbent with a bad economy and high unemployment should be polling well BELOW the opposition, but not the case with Barack Obama: he’s polling significantly higher than the Republican opposition because their candidates are lackluster, and the Republicans have shown they are NOT concerned about the sluggish economy and high unemployment. Their feigned concern about the economy a year ago was all a ruse and ploy to get elected, and the American people are seeing it, thus why Barack’s numbers have begun to go up, whereas the Republican numbers are still in the tank.

        • 9 PurpleShoesLA
          November 6, 2011 at 7:28 pm

          And let’s not forget the naming of post offices, the minting of commemorative coins for Baseball Hall of Fame, and Congress’ so called “working schedule”. I get that their thought process is, with the media’s help, to continually repeat the lie 24-7to the “American People” that it’s PBO and the Democrats’ fault that they don’t have a job, a house, health care, an education, fill in the blank. The fact that they continue to repeat it even in the face of what is now an endless list of deliberate and intentional wasting of time (and money) continues to irritate me to no end. After viewing TOD each day, my next stop is usually at TheHill.com so I can see what legislation Congress is taking up that day. When the legislation doesn’t involve jobs, or something else that is actually going to help the economy, it’s a good way to start an email/tweet to the critters, saying today you voted on “x”, where are the jobs?

    • November 7, 2011 at 1:21 am

      I wonder what happened in the past 2 weeks to turn things suddenly “frosty” between PBO and the Great Orange One???!!!!

  3. November 6, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    ♥ ♥ ♥ Good Afternoon Chips! Good Afternoon TOD Family! ♥ ♥ ♥

    Barack Obama Quote O’ The Day

    First and foremost, let us remember that change has never been quick. Change has never been simple, or without controversy. Change depends on persistence. Change requires determination.

    Enjoy the rest of your weekend, everyone! 😛

  4. 14 anniebella
    November 6, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Am I in? Hell yes I am in.

  5. 15 a4alice
    November 6, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    What if? Ack. That’s a scary thought……

    November 6, 2011 at 4:32 pm


  7. 20 collegekay
    November 6, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Scary ad.

  8. November 6, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Okay, who was it that suggested the early pool call tweet was probably a ‘November Fool’s Day’ gag?

  9. November 6, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    The video says its private. what’s up with that?

  10. 30 utaustinliberal
    November 6, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    May I just say how much I loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove and adore Martin O’Malley, Governor of Maryland? Lucky b******s in Maryland. 😉 Citizens of Maryland hit the jackpot with Gov. O’Malley. I’m soooo jealous and envious of you people. No joke. Seriously, after President Obama wins re-election in 2012; 2016 has to be O’Malley/whoever. He was on State of the Union with Candy Crowley this morning and though he’s soft spoken, I have never witnessed such a STRONG, no holds barred defense of PBO and his accomplishments. This was his second appearance that I watched and he kicked it out of the ballpark again. He paised PBO for stabilizing and growing the economy. He talked about how the GDP was at -9% before PBO came into office and now its at 4% and growing. He touted the American Jobs Act as the greatest thing since sliced bread, broke it down into issue by issue and used it to shame and I mean shame the republicans. He talked about how healthcare reform had helped the people of Maryland, how the stimulus helped. He flat out said that the republicans are intentionally doing everything in their power to tank the economy so that they can defeat PBO. That the republicans profess to “care” for the middleclass yet all they propose is de-regulation, defunding of the EPA, and taxt cut after tax cut for the wealthy. He called Mitch McConnell out for not looking out for Americans since his only concern is making PBO a one term President. Candy tried to stick up and schill for the GOP but Gov O’Malley was having none of it. He called the GOP out for signing a pledge with Grover Norquist to basically destroy the economy.

    At the end of the interview Candy tried to corner him with persistent questions of “Are you running in 2016?” And everytime she asked, all he said was “Candy, Candy, Candy, what I’m interested in and what I will work hard for is making sure President Obama wins in 2012. That’s what I’m working hard for everyday from now until November 6, 2012.”

    In closing, people of Maryland, I sincerely hope you treat him RIGHT and re-elect him because he is fantastic! I so envy you people. 👿 Everytime he appears on Morning Joe or any of the sunday talk shows he kills it . Every freaking time! I’ve got my eye on him for 2016. Show him some love and thanks please. His twitter handle is @GovernorOMalley.

    • 31 hopefruit2
      November 6, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      I’m proud to be a new Maryland resident (former NY resident). I will do whatever I can to help re-elect Gov O’Malley, and if he decides to run in 2016 – I’M ALL IN!!!!!

      • 32 donna dem 4 obama
        November 6, 2011 at 5:13 pm

        LHM when that man walked into the room last week at that Democratic rally I attended I think I had a heart palpitation. Fine, Fine, Fine….and smart and a dedicated Dem as well. The DGA knew what they were doing when they named him their chairman.

        UT he just won re-election last year so I get to have him form 3 more years and then the WH after PBO moves out in 2016 🙂

    • 35 criquet
      November 6, 2011 at 5:06 pm

      Great report, as usual UT. This part of your great precis especially needs to be repeated over and over again on TV, twitter, by email ,video however:

      “He talked about how the GDP was at -9% before PBO came into office and now its at 4% and growing. He touted the American Jobs Act as the greatest thing since sliced bread, broke it down into issue by issue and used it to shame and I mean shame the republicans. He talked about how healthcare reform had helped the people of Maryland, how the stimulus helped. He flat out said that the republicans are intentionally doing everything in their power to tank the economy so that they can defeat PBO. That the republicans profess to “care” for the middleclass yet all they propose is de-regulation, defunding of the EPA, and taxt cut after tax cut for the wealthy. He called Mitch McConnell out for not looking out for Americans since his only concern is making PBO a one term President.”

    • November 6, 2011 at 5:11 pm

      Thanks, UT. I tweeted him!!

    • 38 GGail
      November 6, 2011 at 5:21 pm

      UT, I have to agree with you…Gov O’Malley is one special politician. I see a bright future for him.

    • 39 a4alice
      November 6, 2011 at 5:23 pm

      Right on UT tweeted him a little love 🙂

    • 40 collegekay
      November 6, 2011 at 5:23 pm

      We relected Gov O’Malley during the midterms. I’ve had the pleasure of being under his leadership basically my whole life. LOL

      He was Mayor of Baltimore before he was Governor.

      • 41 donna dem 4 obama
        November 6, 2011 at 5:35 pm

        How did the canvass go today collegekay?

        • 42 collegekay
          November 6, 2011 at 5:57 pm

          It went well. We were in Northern Virginia encouraging people to vote for George Barker on Tuesday for the Virginia Assembly. It’s going to be close. I hope the Dems keep the majority.

    • November 6, 2011 at 5:26 pm

      Why does she always feel the urge to stick up for Republicans? If they had their way she and her entire family would be living in a cardboard box behind the one of the Smithsonians.

    • November 6, 2011 at 5:27 pm

      Martin O’Malley / Corey Booker / Elizabeth Warren /all of the above – 2016

    • 50 theo67
      November 6, 2011 at 5:27 pm

      I’m definitely hoping he’s on the ticket in 2016 – after hearing him call out the anti-Obama idiots last month, I did a little research on him. He looks like he’s got his heart in the right place, his head screwed on straight, and a determination to make things happen. His wife is impressive, too. Reminded me a lot of President Obama at his core. I’m also hoping that a good female candidate comes onto the scene for 2016, and she and O’Malley can form a strong ticket. This country needs Democrats to stay in power for at least the next generation or two.

    • 51 ChristiMtl
      November 6, 2011 at 5:30 pm

      Thanks for the info UT…..I just watched it……oh my goodness, he is good looking isn’t he?!!! And such a supporter.

      I can’t stand that idiot RW tool though, the way she phrased her questions….anything to undermine the President.

      What’s with that comment from Bill Clinton that was showed on the screen? What the heck is that about?

      Shut up Bill Clinton.

      Here’s the video on Crowley’s blog, :


    • November 6, 2011 at 6:40 pm

      You call it luck but it was lots of hard work to make sure the republican would lose. I worked in city hall when he was our mayor and I prayed tha he would run for gov. This is his second term and he is really a nice guy and works for all.

    • 56 mb32
      November 6, 2011 at 6:46 pm

      Well Chris Matthews told me on MTP this morn that no one, and I mean no one, was out defending the Pres because he hadn’t “bonded” with fellow Dems. (he’s such an *ss) And he said that the Clintonites, Ed Rendell, in particular, were ready to go should Hills announce another run. Smh…damn fools…all of them are so disloyal and their hate of our president reeks from their filthy mouths. Maybe someone should introduce Gov O’Malley to Chris and tell him that this is what a real Dem looks and sounds like. Chris says no one fears PBO but they better fear karma-she’s a b*itch, as they say. I have a feeling that a lot of people are going to get to know her pretty well before all is said and done…

      • 57 donna dem 4 obama
        November 6, 2011 at 7:12 pm

        My Governor (O’Malley) was actually a Hillary supporter in the primary but Martin is a loyal Democrat. He could teach the establishment Democrats a thing or two about how to support a sitting President. The one thing that I agree with Chris on is that this President does not have the unconditional support that I saw of previous Democrats. Clinton NEVER had people in our Party questioning his policies or agenda. He had their full support. This President does not. Even when we do get a Dem to come out and support something of this President they end up with a caveat to their support. Maxine Waters was out there screaming at the Republicans when they went on their witch hunt over Bills sexcapade. Never heard her talk about what Bill wasn’t doing for the AA community. During the 08 Primary everyday there was a different Dem on every cable show defending Hillary. She had strong good ole boys and girls out there making the case for her and other than Kerry and Clare McCaskill we have nil….

        Where are the loyal Democratic strategist who won’t spend half of theirair time nodding in agreement that the President should have done this or that differently? They don’t exist (other than O’Malley). I don’t know when the last time I’ve heard any of you who watch cable say that Kerry was out there defending the President and McCaskill has become the Morning Joke darling.

        • 58 mb32
          November 6, 2011 at 8:51 pm

          The lack of support is sad and stunning…thank God for people like your gov! I also believe as some have said on this board that there is a silent army out there and the “establishment” is going to get quite a surprise come election time. These folks won’t fare well in the history books…One of my fave books about Roosevelt is called “FDR’s Enemies” there were quite a few-Dems, Repubs, Progressives, Labor and Crazies lol but somehow he managed to out maneuver all of them and win despite some of them and I think PBO will too

      • November 6, 2011 at 8:06 pm

        Why would Pres. Obama bond with people who are ready to jump ship if Hillary should change her mind? What kind of convoluted thinking is that? And how exactly would Pres. Obama make them fear him? Send them a dead fish wrapped in newspaper?

        • 60 mb32
          November 6, 2011 at 9:05 pm

          I know…it doesn’t make sense. These people can’t be trusted and I wouldn’t want to hang out with them either. Plus, PBO tried having cocktails and stuff with members of Congress including Repubs but it didn’t do any good.

          It was really distressing watching Chris and the others on MTP pretty much mocking PBO for not having insider support. They seemed to get a perverse glee from saying it and how Hillary would have instant support if she wanted to run…

          • 61 theo67
            November 6, 2011 at 9:54 pm

            They’d turn on Hillary just like they’ve turned on President Obama, and they will probably turn on Elizabeth Warren, too. Anyone who actually works to get stuff done, and is prepared to compromise, is the enemy to these people who have never worked to accomplish a difficult task. They are more interested in being seen and heard than getting stuff done. I wonder how many of them actually vote.

        • 64 anniebella
          November 7, 2011 at 4:18 am

          I recall saying this some time ago, Chris Matthews is going through some mental issues, or he is just trying to sell that book of his. Maybe both. And maybe the truth is those people haven’t bonded with President Obama because they never really wanted him to win in the first place. They are mad with him for defeating Hillary. Honestly what the hell have bonding got to do with anything? I have never seen any President have to go through such B.S. even from his own party. These same people had no problem bonding and sticking with Bill Clinton even after the impeachment trial and Lewinsky.

      • 66 Lovepolitics2008
        November 6, 2011 at 11:42 pm

        Well at least they don’t hide it anymore. Folks, the Clintonites are trying to force President Obama to get out,, or to put Hillary on the ticket.

        WOW, just WOW.

        Remember what Jonathan Alter said a few weeks ago that President Obama could be forced to swallow his pride and put Hillary on the ticket for 2012 ?

        There’s NO question in my mind now that the Clintonites are making their move, with Bill leading the charge ( with the book that is coming). And as things are unfolding, I’m getting the idea that Hillary is with them, at least a little. Sorry but that’s how I feel. If she wasn’t she would have disciplined her allies in the party a long time ago.

        They are saying that President Obama didn’t “bond” with them. Can you blame the man for not trusting the Clintonites too much ?? And anyway, I think he made a great gesture in putting Hillary in the very powerful position of SOS, bringing her in the inner circle… But no… that wasn’t enough. Allies of Clinton would have liked to be very influential in every decision of the White House. They never accepted the defeat handed to them by this “outsider” who hadn’t “paid his dues” to the establishement. They wanted the same power as they would have had if Hillary had won. Face it guys, that’s not how things work.

        I hope Bill Clinton and his alcolytes get the smack down they deserve. The democratic base ( the real one, not the PL) will have to speak loud and clear that their loyalty is with President Obama, not with a bunch of sore losers.

        • November 7, 2011 at 12:05 am

          PBO would never put those vipers on the ticket. They would take over everything and create a disaster. There is a reason Hillary didn’t win in the primaries. Perhaps she and her creep of a husband should remember that.

          • 68 HZ
            November 7, 2011 at 12:55 am

            Remember, Lovepolitics2008, these people can spew this crazy talk all day long, BUT the reality is that NO ONE forces POB to do anything. The foolish and ugly talk is just that. Fools speaking and talking about nothing. HZ

        • November 7, 2011 at 1:28 am

          My dream is that PBO dumps all the Clinton hold-overs that are in his administration in his second term — they are not loyal (where to begin with all their gabbing to Ron Suskind???) and they hardly bring cutting edge policies and ideas to the table . .

    • November 6, 2011 at 7:14 pm

      Thanks for this report on Gov O’Malley, ut! So encouraging!

    • 71 SueBee
      November 6, 2011 at 9:46 pm

      Yes! I was telling the young college students at OFA_DC about him today. He is being groomed for the Presidency, I can tell. I hope to see him on the ballot for 2016

    • 72 nathkatun7
      November 7, 2011 at 6:20 pm

      Thanks UT for this glowing report on Gov. O’Malley. I am going to start paying him serious attention. From what you wrote, he is an example of what all Democratic elected officials, especially those in Congress, should be saying every day.

  11. November 6, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    O/T: THANK YOU……you folks who donated to my hubby’s Ultimate Hike. It is SO appreciated and will be used for research for childhood cancer. CureSearch uses “ultimate”, not for the long hike, but for the “ultimate” goal of finding a cure…….or even, in the meantime, finding drugs that be used for children. Most of the chemo drugs used on children are simply watered-down adult chemo drugs. In fact, what (officially) killed Walker was one of the drugs–it damaged his heart beyond repair. Thirty-six children are diagnosed every day in this country and 7 die every day from pediatric cancer. This HAS to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!! What a family we have here. Thanks, Chips, for providing it for us. You are THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • November 6, 2011 at 5:01 pm


      I’m sure Walker is very proud of you and your husband. You are very special. ♥ ♥ ♥

    • 75 GGail
      November 6, 2011 at 5:17 pm

      tnmtngirl, as I said….if you post it….we will respond. Your husband’s website is very inviting and encouraging. May God continue to bless and strengthen your family.

      One day we will have a cure.

      Keep Hope Alive.

      • November 6, 2011 at 5:29 pm

        Thank you for the encouraging words. I believe………………:)

        • 77 HZ
          November 7, 2011 at 1:00 am

          Tnmtngirl, thanks for sharing with your family here. This is why we can’t afford to not support POB in his efforts to keep funding requests to Congress for on-going research in the medical field. Have you thought about starting a petition on the Whitehouse.gov page? Thank about it.HZ

  12. November 6, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    I also coudn’t play the video because of the “private” setting.

  13. November 6, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    ·.·Rock Wuz Here.·.

    FIRED UP…!!

    READY TO GO..!!! 😀

  14. 82 dotster3
    November 6, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    I got the “private video” notice too.
    OT and personal, but my Ct. daughter, still without power 8 days later, just let me know that the bucket trucks and crews have just arrived in their neighborhood. Was it the now much despised Ct. Light and Power trucks? Nope. It was a crew from Ga. The whole neighborhood gathered around to cheer their arrival and watched and cheered as they finally lifted a big tree branch entangled in the power lines. The guys asked, “Do y’all want some power?” And they yelled, “Yes!” And after noting that CL&P was “good for nothin'”, they told the gathered crowd, “We’re gonna be heatin’ ya up and turnin’ ya on.” 🙂 Hooray for that!!! They were lovin’ these Ga. guys, who even took a minute to pat their dog before they went about the business of heatin ’em up and turnin’ ’em on.

    • 83 GGail
      November 6, 2011 at 5:18 pm

      WAY TO GO Georgia Power!!!!!

    • November 6, 2011 at 5:23 pm

      Finally, heat and light! Thank the Lord! Your daughter and family must be so relieved and happy.

    • 85 lovingandlaughing
      November 6, 2011 at 11:10 pm

      Glad to hear your daughter has power once again! It has been crazy here in CT.

      • 86 HZ
        November 7, 2011 at 1:06 am

        Hi Dotster3, good the hear the great news. Can you get the full name of the company. I would like to send a thank you note to them. If it is not trouble to you and your family at this time, maybe she could get the name from the truck or one of the persons working on their lines.

        The more we let them know that we do appreciate them, I feel it will also encourage them to know that we are watching and are so grateful to them for stepping up and helping. We need to all stand together. We have the tools in techonology now to do so.HZ

  15. 87 holymoly
    November 6, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    I can’t watch the clip, says ‘private’

  16. November 6, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    YYIIPPEE! That is wonderful news! We southerners love to help people and southern hospitality is real. I just wish more southerners were informed and educated about our politics. 🙂

  17. 93 GGail
    November 6, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Hey Chipsticks – the “what if” video has gone Private. We’ve been deprived 😦

  18. November 6, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Hi Chips.

    I can’t see the “What If” video. It says the video is private. Is it?

  19. November 6, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    ATHENS/PARIS (Reuters) – Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou sealed a deal on Sunday with the opposition on forming a coalition to approve a euro zone bailout before early elections, breaking an impasse after the EU demanded a rapid end to the political bickering.


  20. 103 Brittany
    November 6, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Good evening everyone-

    When does the first family go to Australia? Is it before Thanksgiving or after?

    • 105 mb32
      November 6, 2011 at 7:03 pm

      Definitely…I just made a similar comment upthread but about the haters…some people are not gonna want to reap all of the mess they’ve been sowing…

    • November 7, 2011 at 1:13 am

      Thanks desertflower. Karma is a total bitch. These people are going to reap what they have are still are sowing. You just can’t continue to go around in life and cause all of this hate and unfairness to people. It will catch up to you soon or later. Hopefully, it will be soon.HZ

  21. 109 Debz
    November 6, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    The First Lady and Sam Kass will be on the Nate Berkus show tomorrow.

    • 110 utaustinliberal
      November 6, 2011 at 6:50 pm

      That’s so true. Thanks for the reminder. Soooooo gonna watch our wonderful FLOTUS and uber HOTTIE Sam Kass on the CW at 3pm ET/2pm CT. 🙂

  22. November 6, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    The other day I mentioned that an old classmate came at me with some right wing BS. Desertflower and others gave me some info to send him–one thing was the White House comparison of the President’s Jobs Bill and the Republican Jobs Bill. Sent them off with appropriate comments and got some ” you need to move to a communist country” stuff back–plus “the country wlll be destroyed if we don’t limit regulation”. “You want the govt. to control everything”– well, that’s enough of that–makes my butt tired.

    • 113 theo67
      November 6, 2011 at 6:25 pm

      Some heads are too hard to break into. Better to move on and leave her – hope she never suffers under the ideology that she’s supporting.

      • November 7, 2011 at 1:20 am

        Concur theo67. Auni, keep your spirits up and move on to another person. Sometimes, another person is ready with the heart to listen clearly and intelligently and will benefit more. So be not discourage, but keep trying to send the material to others who might be on your heart to contact.

        I hope that you will have much success. Do not give up. Ok/HZ

      • 115 nathkatun7
        November 7, 2011 at 6:37 pm

        Very wise advice, theo!

    • 116 nintendowii10
      November 6, 2011 at 6:32 pm

      Sounds to me that person has been listening to too much Limbaugh and Fox Propaganda. That person is better off ignored.

    • 117 desertflower
      November 6, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      Got a couple more things to send you if that’s the “concerned” complaint.

      And this: http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/201111040009 Let them chew on that for awhile:) The Political Correction link sites Wall St Journal MANY TIMES! Hardly a Liberal bastion! let us know! Sometimes the lies, just become truth to them…you can only lead them to water….can’t make them THINK:)

    • 118 isonprize
      November 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm

      You know what I do when I run into people like that? I either give $$ to the Obama campaign, or I volunteer for a “Day of Action” or I register people to vote to counteract idiots like that…

      • November 7, 2011 at 1:23 am

        Great comment, isonprize. Keep the positive rolling because these people have not realized that things will get worse for them and others , if they do not listen to the facts of truth that this Administration has done and is doing for them.

        Great idea.HZ

      • 121 desertflower
        November 6, 2011 at 9:51 pm

        this is from David Horsey’s blog:
        Too much regulation on business? It was the elimination of regulations on banks and the financial industry late in the Clinton administration and early in the Bush era that allowed bankers and Wall Street derivatives traders to build the house of cards that came crashing down on us all in 2008. Businesses are now failing to create jobs, not because of regulations, but because the economy is still teetering on the edge of calamity.

      • November 7, 2011 at 1:29 am

        Thanks, desertflower. Sent to a friend who is trying to talk with some walking friends who can’t see the good that has been done and this mess started in many ways.HZ

  23. 124 Bobfr
    November 6, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    My lastest letter to the President:

    6 Nov 2011

    Dear Mr President,

    A year from today we will be an hour or two from when polls begin to close.

    Today, at BarackObama.com the video #What If?” appeared. The message is cogent; the warning, clear.

    In addition to re-electing you, we need to elect majorities in the House and Senate comprised of individuals willing to work with you to help all Americans recover from the Reagan-Bushx2-Clinton era during which, as you have eloquently noted, the majority of Americans were excluded from any of the prosperity that their productivity generated.

    A grave and real threat – one that could facilitate the worst outcome possible on 6 Nov 2012 – is being pursued relentlessly by Republicans throughout America.

    They are committed to disenfranchising as many Americans as possible. Much of their 21st Century Jim Grow scheme involves finding as many ways as possible to deny people access to a ballot by imposing photo ID restrictions and barriers to obtaining a valid photo ID.

    Recognizing that one unassailably valid photo is a US Passport. I have requested, once before, that you issue an Executive Order instructing the Department of State to Waive the Fee for any US Citizen whom will be eligible to vote on 6 Nov 2012. Motivated by the “What If?” video, I’m making that request again.


    Thank you,

    Yes We Can … DO More Together

    Have also posted a brief description of the request at BarackObama.com – motivated very much by the “What If?” video’s message – http://www.barackobama.com/news/what-if#comment-357166586

    • 125 Bobfr
      November 6, 2011 at 6:31 pm

      Our4thEstate Bobfr
      Defeat #KOCHMAFIAGOP 21st Century Jim Crow voter suppression. Support #WaiveTheFee_PreserveTheVote Details: http://theobamadiary.com/2011/11/06/what-if/#comment-161441 #PRESSON

    • 128 desertflower
      November 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm

      Didn’t I get an email from the WH that says that Nancy DePearl (sp) wants those suggestions?

      • 129 Bobfr
        November 6, 2011 at 8:29 pm

        Hi Desertflower,

        Ms DeParle sent an email requesting ideas as to how the President could create jobs without any help from Congress. I sent her two very specific suggestions. The webform link in her email would not be suitable for my submitting the above recommendation so I sent it directly to the President. Anyone who wants to resend the recommendation, please do so. No need to attribute it to me.


        • 130 desertflower
          November 6, 2011 at 8:47 pm

          I should have known you would be on top of it:) You are truly an angel…you do the work of many! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

          • 131 Bobfr
            November 6, 2011 at 9:28 pm

            Thank you so much for your support, Desertflower!

            Latest letter to President Obama

            6 Nov 2011

            Dear Mr President,

            Robert Reich writes “Wall St is Back to Its Old Tricks” a scenario in which you travel to Wall St and inform the financial community that, given their continued greed and endless efforts to avoid regulation, as evidenced by their lobbying to ‘water down the Volcker rule’ and more, that you are going to take action.

            President Clinton, collaborating with three GOP Senators, destroyed a cornerstone of FDR’s legacy and unleashed Wall St greed on Americans when he signed Gramm-Leach-Bliley into law.

            It is time to call for the repeal of that law and even stronger legislation than Glass-Steagall and that any bank that remotely fits the parameters of ‘too big to fail’ be systematically deconstructed into entities that either perform in the market or go out of business, but their demise doesn’t threaten the stability of the US or global economy and doesn’t undermine the value of what little the middle class is able to save.

            Someone needs to convert the raw energy and legitimate complaints of the “Occupy Wall St” movement into a major force for change in the US Senate and House, as well as ensuring you are re-elected President.

            You’re the person to do that and now is the time to offer very specific regulatory goals you intend to impose on Wall St, and the greedy 1%ers, when you are re-elected and you are going to be calling on every candidate you endorse to support your mandate for change as soon as Congress convenes in Jan 2013.

            Thank you,

            p.s. Please end the Keystone XL project. We have so many ways to continue improving our energy future and you do not need the political baggage.

    • November 7, 2011 at 1:33 am

      Hi Bob, I love your letters. They are excellent. I was just reading this one and thinking that it might be a great idea to also send this to DNC Chairperson, DWS. Have you thought about that. Especially about the winning of the House back and some workable and capable, and willing Senators to help Leader Reid and POB. Just a thought.HZ

  24. 140 theo67
    November 6, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    The twitterverse is buzzing from fresh idiocy from Mike Huckabee. He compared the Cain harassment allegations to ordering chicken from Popeye’s, saying that the accusers are anonymous (actually, no, they’re not – they are simply under a non-disclosure agreement), and that the abuse could have been a lot worse. Says that they basically accused Herman Cain of calling them “honey” or “sweetie”, and maybe he should have sued when the Popeye’s servers asked him if he wanted breast or thigh pieces of chicken.

    The GOP is so disgusting, it makes my heart hurt.


    • 141 Ladyhawke
      November 6, 2011 at 6:54 pm


      Mike Huckabee Compares Sexual Harassment To Ordering Chicken At Popeyes


      If Huckabee has a problem with baseless attacks based on charges from years ago then he must have been appalled by the swift boating of John Kerry in 2004? Not so much, Huckabee was the chairman of the Bush/Cheney 2004 Arkansas operation.

      Huckabee’s comparison of Herman Cain’s pattern of sexual harassment was an attempt by Fox News to delegitimize his victims and make the story go away. Cain supporters use the polls as evidence that this story isn’t harming their candidate, but a new Reuters/Ipsos poll has found that Cain’s favorability rating among Republicans has dropped nine points since the story broke, and 53% of those polled think that the allegations are true.

      Mike Huckabee can make all the jokes he wants to about sexual harassment, but Herman Cain is starting to look like damaged goods. Huckabee didn’t just blame the victims. He humiliated them. Keep it classy, Mike Huckabee. It is mind blowing to think that there are people out there who actually wanted this man to be president.



      • 142 theo67
        November 6, 2011 at 7:08 pm

        And the people in that video actually were applauding, laughing and cheering as Huckabee blamed and humiliated the victims. The entire Republican party is clearly filled with morons, idiots, and people of poor character and judgement.How did these people run this country for so long?

        • 143 Ladyhawke
          November 6, 2011 at 7:12 pm


          I am watching a segment right now on 60 Minutes about Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff. This is just astonishing. He talks about his activities so matter of factly. It’s just disgusting. A culture of corruption that is alive and well today.

          • 144 Ladyhawke
            November 6, 2011 at 7:27 pm


            I could not agree more. The problem is that too many congress members and their staffs use their jobs as a stepping stone to be a lobbyist. And in fact they are constantly being sought after to fill lobbyists positions. There is a glaring conflict of interest. The lobbyist profession is so lucrative that it is like a magnet. This 60 Minutes segment should be required viewing for every American.

          • 150 GGail
            November 6, 2011 at 10:49 pm

            LH – I’m on the west coast and I just finished watching the Jack Abramoff segment on 60 Minutes too. My mouth fell open at how easy it is for corruption to live and grow in DC. No wonder President Obama prefers being out on the road with America as oppose to being within the DC area.

            Corruption in DC is like fungus spores that seep into your system and you LOSE YOUR MIND!

            • 151 Ladyhawke
              November 6, 2011 at 11:32 pm

              I hear ya ggail. The culture of corruption is worse than ever. We have to get the money out of politics somehow. The current political landscape is just horrifying. There are so many obstacles to conquer.

              1) We have the lobbyists who are like vultures trying to influence the politicians.

              2) Citizens United case making corporations people. No accountability for political donations.

              3) We have the ALEC organization which seems like a shadow government.

              4) We have the Koch Brothers with their tentacles everywhere trying to get rid of unions and minimum wage laws.

              5) We have a depraved, obstructionist GOP only interested in the wealthy. no regulations/no taxes/hostage taking as governing strategy.

              6) A feckless media that has abdicated the responsibility to educate and inform the public with the facts.

              7) The constant manufactured controversies and negativity of the Fox network.

              8) Right wing radio echo chamber.

              9) The Tea Party Haters who are very confused about the role of government.

              10) Concerted efforts by the Republican Party to disenfranchise voters.

              11) Wall Street and the Banks sitting on their cash and whining when they are called out for their reckless behavior.

              12) GOP making no taxes pledges to some guy outside of the government named Grover Norquist.

              13) GOP blocking the implementation of Dodd-Frank

        • November 7, 2011 at 1:39 am

          You are so correct in your comments theo67. Answer, the people were not really listening. Now the young people have a leader who has inspired them, make the case reasonable, careful, truthful, and intelligent. The intelligent, compassionate, loving, faithful and focus young people are listening and most of all Doing something about this reckless, greedy, old men society. ENOUGH, they are saying.

          How insulting to all young and old women for these men to poke fun at such an awful and ugly situation. Shameless people.HZ

  25. 154 dotster3
    November 6, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Tea party losing its flavor. GOP candidates are no-shows at Fl. tea party convention. Such a shame. They missed out on an opportunity to answer this question posed to some poor slob candidate with $50 bucks in his account: ‘ If elected would you pass a law which would prevent schools from teaching students how to perform homosexual acts?’ Only Santorum showed up for the “debate”, which is fitting, given the mindset there:

    • 155 nintendowii10
      November 6, 2011 at 6:37 pm

      Speaking of Florida, Senator Bill Nelson is taking it to Rick Scott, the governor, saying a vote for ANY Republican in Florida next year is a vote to rubberstamp the agenda of Rick Scott… and apparently it’s working, seeing as practically NO ONE in the state likes Rick Scott. Even the Republicans there hate his ass, and that is telling… not all Republican voters are buying into this “blame the unemployed, more tax breaks for the rich, class warfare” nonsense that the Republicans are selling. The Republicans are in for a rude awakening next year methinks.

      • 156 desertflower
        November 6, 2011 at 7:57 pm

        Proud to count my dad as one that is FINALLY seeing the light!! About damn time.

      • November 7, 2011 at 1:43 am

        Good to hear nintendowii10. Bill Nelson of Fl. gave a very beautiful introduction of our beloved Joe when VPOTUS gave that great speech last month in Fl. Remembem Bill spoke highly of Joe and told the people why he supported Joe and POB.

        Maybe Sen. Nelson will get out and work for us in Fl., for 2012. HZ

    • 158 Marlz (@marjgra)
      November 6, 2011 at 7:34 pm

      Good!!!!!!!!!!! Hope the Tea Party realize that they were only needed to win the election. People like Rick Scott and Marco Rubio do not need them now until the next five years.

      • November 7, 2011 at 1:45 am

        You have said a mouthful, Martz. And if they would have their way, they would do it again. That is why we must get out the word and let the people know that they have been used and will be again, if they keep buying this crap from the fools. We will defeat this evil crowd .HZ

  26. 160 donna dem 4 obama
    November 6, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Ut-this ones for you (and anyone else who would like to be introduced to my Governor)

    • 161 theo67
      November 6, 2011 at 7:05 pm

      He seems so genuine and intense. Definitely someone who could hold his own after President Obama in 2016. I like this guy!

    • 162 a4alice
      November 6, 2011 at 7:23 pm

      Thanks Donna! He seems like a great guy!

    • 163 PurpleShoesLA
      November 6, 2011 at 7:55 pm

      The video is a nice introduction to him. Thanks! It would be nice to see him speak at the convention next year in the hopes of gaining some “national presence”. While I know that the focus and energy is on PBO’s reelection for the short term, my long term concern (really fear) is that come 2016, we’ll still see a crazy Repug a la Perry, Cain, etc. in the White House that will unravel all the good work that came before then. Unless some part of the Dem party are also focusing now on grooming the next presidential contender after PBO’s second term. I hope so.

    • November 6, 2011 at 8:04 pm

      Donna, he’s my governor, too. He’s a good guy. In fact, as far as politics, we’ve got 2 good US Senators and Congressional Reps.

    • November 6, 2011 at 8:17 pm

      OOO, another family values guy! Did you see how touched he was at his daughters’ speeches? I also like the way he seems relaxed in his people interactions. Okay Gov. O’Malley, I’ll keep you in the back of my mind for 2016, and thank you for your wisdom and integrity in standing behind our current leader.

    • 167 isonprize
      November 6, 2011 at 9:58 pm

      Donna, you are trying to make us all move to Maryland, aren’t you!??!!?? 8) 😆

      • 168 donna dem 4 obama
        November 6, 2011 at 10:00 pm

        Come on down…or up….or over. We’d love to have ya!!!

        • November 7, 2011 at 1:50 am

          Hi Donna. I fell in love with your wonderful Governor O’Malley when I first herad him speak about our President. Also, he has that calm intellectual spirit about him. Plus, not bad on the eyes. We will need someone to be easy on the eyes after our beautiful POTUS completes his second term.

          Enjoy your governor and keep us posted so we can keep the fire under the army’s feet for our man in 2016. Love him.HZ

  27. 170 defytheodds
    November 6, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Valerie Jarrett headlines ‘One Year Out’ fundraiser in ALT

    And pic at The FOX Theatre

  28. November 6, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Guys there’s this story brewing about the fight over the construction of Keystone XL tar sands oil pipeline as it was reported that an estimated ten thousand demonstrated in front of the white house today:


    And this is what Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper had to say about it and President Obama at the G20 last week:

    • 174 collegekay
      November 6, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      I heard about this. People are very upset about it.

      • November 7, 2011 at 2:08 am

        I also read that the Sec. of State and State Dept has a big call in this as well. Remember also, this is not the first time that there have been protests against a President at the WH, But it is how he/she will listen and make good decisions in the matters. They have the right to protest, and the President has the responsibility to make decisions that are applied to the Executive Branch as well.

        Then that Congress, who knows where there heads are. However, I will trust the President to make the right decision. That is why we pray and ask for wisdom for him. Lord knows he has enough on his plate that he has been cleaning up since the moment he sat down at that desk in the Oval Office.

        Keep him in your prayers, good thoughts, and meditations daily. Thank you all.HZ

    • 176 dotster3
      November 6, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      It was one of 2 stories on CBS news tonight and on all the news breaks—-reporting as a negative and trouble for Obama.

      • 177 desertflower
        November 6, 2011 at 8:12 pm

        I read where there were 12,000 people there to protest…they circled the WH.

      • 178 hopefruit2
        November 6, 2011 at 8:14 pm

        As you may have noticed – there is a pattern with this media (both left and right). Something only becomes an issue of concern when it can be used to tarnish the President. Some of the same people out there protesting would not give a rat’s arse about this if they couldn’t use it as a wedge issue where this President is concerned. I’ve seen this movie before, and I’m not impressed.

        • 179 nathkatun7
          November 7, 2011 at 7:05 pm

          Here, here hopefruit2! I am with you 100% in not being impressed. I hope people in our TOD family will revisit Tally’s excellent post, the other day, that brilliantly covered this issue.

      • 180 Brittany
        November 6, 2011 at 8:20 pm

        The oil sands has been big news since the summer. The first time I read about it was over on the blog at barackobama.com. If he approves of this, it will lead to a backlash amongst the environmentalist in his base.

        • November 6, 2011 at 11:12 pm

          Regardless of what he does somebody will be pissed. The unions are saying thousands of jobs will be created. Others are saying will decrease our dependency on foreign oil. It’s another damn if he does and damn if he doesn’t situation.

    • 182 hopefruit2
      November 6, 2011 at 8:11 pm

      President Obama said that he would personally approve or disapprove the pipeline after doing a review of the health risks versus the jobs benefits. Neither Harper nor the PL protesters are right about any presumption.

      I trust that our President will ultimately make the right decision as he normally does. This is not about “taking a Koch check” as it is being framed by the PL at Old Orange and elsewhere.

      • November 6, 2011 at 10:57 pm

        I know he will..Now Van Jones is going after PBO instead of State Dept, in charge of making the decision.

        He’s written a whole blog about it:

        “We have a duty to support the president when he is right (for instance, fighting for the jobs bill). And we have an equal duty to oppose him when he is wrong. And if he is even considering approving this monstrous, planet-killing proposal, President Obama is flat-out, absolutely, and 100 percent wrong.”

        He’s a flat out lier He never made any efforts to promote or helping PBO passing the AJA bill, yet he was quick to promote Jane Hamshire BS. I’ve called him out many times….he kept ignoring me. I am about so send him Tally’s Facts link….I am sick of his BS.

        • November 7, 2011 at 1:38 am

          What has become of Van Jones is a real disappointment. He seems to have concluded that his “Rebuild the Dream” movement lives or dies on the back of the usual lame PLers. Too bad . .

          • 185 anniebella
            November 7, 2011 at 4:30 am

            Sounds like Van Jones can’t be trusted.

            • 186 nathkatun7
              November 7, 2011 at 7:23 pm

              It appears to me that Van Jones is probably pissed because he lost his White House Job and this is his way of getting back at the President. He also seems to be a publicity seeker. In any case, while he has a right to protest, the President has a responsibility to act in the best interests of all Americans and not just the interests of the holier than thou environmentalists. I am tired of people who focus on just one issue to tell the President what to do. I have absolute trust that President Obama will not unwisely do anything that would harm the health of Americans.

        • November 7, 2011 at 2:14 am

          Kasai, go for it. I think that your heart is leading you to do the right thing. If you tell me how, I would send it as well. Tally will assist us as well.

          Van Jones has been very disappointing. I have told him so in my Tweets to him. Maybe we need to start tweeting him again. I notice that he get hot under the collar when we tweet him. Lets give him so heat. Tell the truth, Van, or shut up bashing the President.HZ

          “If you are not going to work with him to solve problems, then sthu, and stop working against him. We have too much work to get done.HZ”

    • November 6, 2011 at 8:13 pm

      With some ifs ands or buts, I think its going to be approved.

    • 189 globalcitizenlinda
      November 7, 2011 at 12:26 am

      I suspect that the pipeline will be approved by President Obama – issues of energy security and diplomatic relationships with the closest neighbor may way heavily in this decision.

      the same controversy that followed PBO’s approval of nuclear energy projects and continued drilling in the gulf of Mexico will be seen in the political discussion

  29. 190 desertflower
    November 6, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Great, great story! One that the President would say had that CAN DO spirit! This is the kind of place that we should be buying from….anyone need a beautiful blanket for a gift???:)

    • 191 Ladyhawke
      November 6, 2011 at 8:22 pm


      Thanks df. What a great story. I want one of those blankets. They are gorgeous. I am looking forward to seeing more of their products. Maybe I can start with a nice throw for my bedroom.

      • 192 desertflower
        November 6, 2011 at 8:40 pm

        There you go! A beautiful throw for the bedroom:) Perfect. I’ll see if I can find a website….:)

      • 193 desertflower
        November 6, 2011 at 8:42 pm

        Here you go, Ladyhawke:)
        http://faribaultmill.com/ Proudly Made In the USA!

        • 194 Ladyhawke
          November 6, 2011 at 11:40 pm

          Thanks df. I would love to see Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats promote this company. Maybe Senator Franken and Klobachar are on it. This totally fits in with their MAKE IT IN AMERICA program. It’s such an uplifting story. I bet the orders for those beautiful blankets are going start flowing in. It is such a good feeling to see this happening.

          • November 7, 2011 at 2:52 am

            Ladyhawke and our wonderful Desertflower, I was just writing a reply to your comments about this wonderful news. Then I lost it. Sorry. However, I was writing some of the same thoughts that Ladyhawke has written.

            Desertflower, I was also thinking that we could contact Senators Franken and Amy klobuchar to present this to POB and maybe they could have this company and several others at a Whitehouse Ceremony,;Made In America’ stressing the fact that this is what POTUS was talking about with having a comeback with ‘made in America companies. What do you all think. I am going to write the Senators anyway.

            I went to the online site and saw some beautiful throws. Thanks for the link, Desertflower. You are so special in our family. Love you back so very much.HZ

            • 196 desertflower
              November 7, 2011 at 8:04 am

              HZ…you are such a treasure! I think that it’s a wonderful idea to send this info to the senators from MN and have them showcase this wonderful story of renewal and revitalization:) Perfect idea! That’s what the President was talking about….Made in America companies on the comeback….great stuff. Please let me know that you sent them the info, and let us ALL know what they said of they respond…..thanks for doing that:)

    • 197 Alycee (@jazziz2)
      November 6, 2011 at 8:51 pm

      Wow. Just think, if the newstainers would do just one positive story like this each broadcast, our economy and the MOOD of the people would be on the rise! Checked their site, loved the heritage section — http://faribaultmill.com/our-heritage.php

      They are taking pre-orders to be delivered in about 60 days, think I’m going to cash in one of my change jugs…

    • 199 a4alice
      November 6, 2011 at 10:05 pm

      Hey Faribault Minnesota! That is great news!

    • 200 a4alice
      November 6, 2011 at 10:05 pm

      Hey Faribault Minnesota! That is great news!

      • 201 a4alice
        November 6, 2011 at 10:18 pm

        hey weird. i don’t know why that double posted

      • 202 desertflower
        November 6, 2011 at 10:33 pm

        Is that close to you, alice?? You should visit…maybe put that info up at a local blog so folks would know:)

        • 203 a4alice
          November 6, 2011 at 10:46 pm

          I just emailed them and said w00t at them and then tweeted it. I think christmas presents is a great idea so I said that in my tweet. What a great story. I’m taking this to work.

          • November 7, 2011 at 4:20 am

            Desertflower, I e mailed Senators Franken, Klobuchar, and our beloved President about your post. Lets see what happens. Will be calling about the throws. I have allergies to wool,, but I have a special person who would love some of the beautiful items. Great story. Thanks for sharing.

            Lets let the senators know that we find important news and share it. Our POTUS might send someone to our blog as well. I have dropped our blogs name several times when writing to them. Ladies behave. Love you all so much.HZ

            • 205 desertflower
              November 7, 2011 at 8:07 am

              Great….we have to behave???? Seriously? 🙂 We’ve got such a sense of humor, that if anyone from the WH came here to peek….they would never get any other work done!

          • 206 desertflower
            November 7, 2011 at 8:05 am

            Awesome, alice!!!! Post it at work!

  30. 207 halo
    November 6, 2011 at 8:15 pm


    • 209 nintendowii10
      November 6, 2011 at 8:57 pm

      Reminds me of the time he and LMFAO (Party Rock Anthem rap group) got into a fight on an airplane.

    • 210 hopefruit2
      November 6, 2011 at 9:00 pm

      Hmmm..Rom-no isn’t President Obama. I’m sure our President (as a candidate in 2007/08) would have engaged the passengers.

  31. November 6, 2011 at 8:25 pm


    NOVEMBER 6, 2011, 5:17 PM
    In Flight, Romney Is Aloof With Fellow Passengers

    Mitt Romney was polite as he took his seat in coach next to Carolyn McClanahan of Jacksonville, Fla., on a recent Delta flight to Boston. He thanked her when she said she appreciated his efforts to reform health care as the governor of Massachusetts and even posed for a photo with her.

    As a physician who heads a financial planning company and prides herself on having read every page of President Obama’s health care reform bill, Ms. McClanahan, 47, recognized that it’s not every day you’re seated next to a presidential candidate on a two-hour flight. According to Ms. McClanahan, about an hour into the flight — which Mr. Romney mostly spent reading USA Today and using an iPad while wearing headphones — she told him her idea for improving the American health care system: slashing overhead costs by switching to an electronic billing system.

    “He looked at me blankly and said, ‘I understand,’ then put his iPad headphones in and kept reading,” she said.

    While Ms. McClanahan said Mr. Romney was likely exhausted, she was disappointed he showed so little interest. Even another passenger’s request for a restaurant recommendation in Boston elicited little from Mr. Romney, she said. “I can’t give you any,” he said, according to Ms. McClanahan. “You’ll have to ask someone else.”

    Such reserved behavior seems commonplace among airline passengers. But Mr. Romney is. of course, running for president.

    “I feel he’s out of touch or doesn’t want to be in touch or that he’s afraid to be in touch,” she said. “He’s just like people describe him: just very wooden.”

    Vying for an office previously held by President George W. Bush, the guy you wanted to have a beer with, and President Bill Clinton, the guy who felt your pain, Mr. Romney has fought the characterization that he is stiff. He garnered 22 percent of Republican support in The Des Moines Register’s recent Iowa Poll, in a statistical tie with Herman Cain, who has built his campaign on being a businessman, accessible by nature of his distance from Washington.

    But as the campaign continues, Mr. Romney’s interactions with voters will only grow less spontaneous. Should he survive long enough in the race, flying coach will be a thing of the past, replaced with Secret Service detail and private campaign planes.

    In some ways, Ms. McClanahan’s experience with Mr. Romney offers just a glimpse of a widening gulf between Americans and politicians, evident in Congress’s plunging approval numbers. A recent New York Times/CBS News poll found that 84 percent disapprove of Congress.

    Ms. McClanahan said that if Mr. Romney wants to improve his image with voters, he’s going to have to do more than just fly coach.

    “I think that one of the problems right now is that politicians aren’t in touch,” she said. “They’re trying to act like they’re in touch. You need to be a little more sincere about it.”


    • November 6, 2011 at 8:36 pm

      Sorry gobrooklyn, I was away from the site for a bit and just found your NYT link in pending – so I freed it! (And deleted my link to the same article). It often happens that comments that include links automatically end up in pending because the WordPress spam detector suspects they’re, well, spam. But they should go straight through because I have that spam filter thingie set to only block comments with more than five links (classic spam includes lots of links). Grr!

  32. November 6, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    I posted an article two times and it has not shown up. What the hey?

  33. November 6, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    I was just trying to post this article. for a third time.

  34. 223 desertflower
    November 6, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    HA! Read the whole thing…if this is what Republicans are going to say, I think we got this one..

  35. 224 globalcitizenlinda
    November 6, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Heads up. National Geographic has begun airing (@ 9.00 p.m eastern) the documentary “The Last Days of Bin Laden”

  36. 225 globalcitizenlinda
    November 6, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    okay, I must have messed up the first alert but for those interested, the National Geographic has begun airing (@ 9.00 p.m eastern) the documentary “The Last Days of Bin Laden”

  37. November 6, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Night everyone. Have a great day tomorrow…

    Here’s a video I put together some time ago…

  38. 227 desertflower
    November 6, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Cain’s approval numbers going down because of allegations….could be that the crest has been reached.

  39. 229 desertflower
    November 6, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Seriously???? Michelle Bachmann has great healthcare. I think she should use it.


    • 230 anniebella
      November 7, 2011 at 4:58 am

      desertflower, I’m assuming that health insurance of Bachmann covers mental issues.

      • 231 desertflower
        November 7, 2011 at 8:08 am

        That was my point:) She’s needful of some help in that regard!

      • 232 desertflower
        November 7, 2011 at 8:11 am

        One would think! she needs to partake of that and get her mental issues squared away….she may be past the point of no return at this point…..quotes like that tell me that the hinges are totally broken!

  40. 233 globalcitizenlinda
    November 6, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    something strange happening with comments showing up in a different place – thought mine had been lost

  41. November 6, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Chris Cillizza (Washington Post): There’s no question that President Obama faces one of the most challenging political environments in modern memory as he prepares to try to win a second term next November.

    But with one year to go before the 2012 election, the battleground map suggests that the president still retains several plausible pathways to the 270 electoral votes he needs.

    …. To understand how Obama can maintain that edge …. you need to start with the fact that he won 365 electoral votes in 2008, the largest haul since President Bill Clinton’s 1996 reelection.

    Obama won three states — Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia — that no Democrat had carried at the presidential level in at least two decades, and he scored victories in six other states (Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, New Mexico and Ohio) that George W. Bush had won in 2004…

    …. with the exception of Indiana and its 11 electoral votes, Obama is very much in the game in those states. In several, even Republicans acknowledge that he is favored.

    In New Mexico (five electoral votes) and Iowa (six electoral votes), Obama has an edge. New Mexico’s substantial Hispanic population makes it a tough pickup for Republicans. Iowa is more competitive but Obama has long had a connection to the state that his advisers think is lasting and strong.

    Assuming Obama can win those two states again — and hold the 19 other states he won that also went to the Democrat, Sen. John F. Kerry, in 2004 — he would be just 12 electoral votes shy of 270.

    That means Obama could would need to win only one of the following states to be reelected: Florida, North Carolina, Ohio or Virginia….

    …. Democrats insist that they will be competitive in 2012 in Arizona and Georgia …. if true, that would give Obama more of a cushion.

    …. the ground on which the 2012 election will be fought still favors him ….


    See you tomorrow everyone, sorry for the lack of updates over the weekend, hopefully I’ll get back to normal in the morning 😉

  42. 239 Tracy
    November 6, 2011 at 10:18 pm


    A really nice piece on reelecting our president. We need someone with decency and integrity.

  43. 240 halo
    November 6, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    CANNES, France – After spending less than 36 hours in Europe last week for a G-20 summit of world economic leaders, President Obama may wish he could run on his record for re-election here rather than back home.

    The stalled U.S. economy, his biggest political burden, is doing just fine by today’s European standards. His actions in 2009 to stimulate the economy, administer bank bailouts and regulate financial institutions, attacked by Republican opponents, were the subjects of tutorials for European leaders who increasingly must follow his lead.

    It’s such a shame that Americans don’t know what they have.

  44. 241 a4alice
    November 6, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    nitey nite TOD


  45. November 6, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Gloria Cain has voted in numerous Democratic primaries and runoffs according to records unearthed by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

    But there’s one area where husband and wife don’t always appear to see eye to eye: politics. While her husband votes Republican, Gloria Cain has voted in Democratic primaries and runoffs numerous times since 2000 — including the 2008 presidential primary that Barack Obama won with 66 percent of the vote, according to local voting records.

    In 2004, Gloria Cain voted in the March Democratic primary for president, and then the Republican primary in July when her husband was on the Georgia ballot for U.S. Senate.

    • 250 TrumpDog
      November 7, 2011 at 3:24 am

      I downloaded it to my Google calender.
      What I noticed was there are LOTS of Repub debates. Do they really need that many?

  46. 252 LDS
    November 7, 2011 at 12:43 am

    Hello….is anybody here? Come on guys, don’t go to sleep now. I have been lurking here for many months and I have not posted a comment because you guys keep me so busy reading and watching all these wonderful videos. This is an amazing blog and I am so glad that it found me. I visited Mrs. O site for a long while until this summer during the fiasco in Washington with the debt ceiling. When the President gave us orders, I informed the fashion-minded that if they did not donate, volunteer…..do something Mrs. O site would be, in essence, no longer there for the next four years. Well, I think I casued a revolution because some were offended by my implications of being political and there was a blog to go on if I needed to chat about politics. I did not want to chat. I just wanted them to get off their a***s and do something besided comment pro or con what our FLOTUS was wearing.

    It just so happened during that time FLOTUS was not out in public as much before they went on their vacation. You feel the disdain and boredom. Exactly what I was trying to forewarn them of what would happen if they sat around and did nothing. Well, this is where the TOD family found me. I do not remember how it came about, but am I forever grateful. I am a OFA volunteer and I refer everyone to this blog. You all are really smart, intelligent and kind people. Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication for our President. At the end of the day, I am encouraged to
    “KEEP ON PUSHING” for 2012 to re-elect this gift that we have been blessed to lead us.

    • 253 desertflower
      November 7, 2011 at 8:19 am

      LDS….welcome! I’m sure that I can speak for the group in this one instance and say that you should comment more often, and we’re so glad that you’re here.
      What matters is that YOU got to work…much appreciated.

    • 254 a4alice
      November 7, 2011 at 8:27 am

      hey lds! Have a great day!

    • 255 L3
      November 7, 2011 at 8:41 am

      Hi LDS and welcome! I found TOD through Mrs. O when a commenter there suggested I come here to see more pictures of Mrs. O’s attire from the South America trip. I usually try to stay away from the comments over there because I don’t like the nitpicking and head to toe deconstruction of the First Lady. I’ve been tempted on more than one occasion to say to the fashion police over there “I sure would like to see how perfectly fine all of you look everytime you walk out the door.” Since I found TOD I don’t visit there very often any more. I am far more interested in and concerned about the politics of our country right now and considered that spot an occasional guilty pleasure. I agree with your admonishment but am not surprised it was not welcomed.

      I am an OFA Fall Fellow and I agree that volunteering on the ground is far more important than just about anything we can do on-line. Again, welcome.

    • 256 lovingandlaughing
      November 7, 2011 at 9:05 am

      LDS, Thank you for sharing your story and for what you said on the Mrs. O site. It is true, we need to take action and push on or the above “what if” clip will become the scary reality.

  47. November 7, 2011 at 1:07 am


    Me thinks he is going to approve keystone. Getting off foreign oil and putting in all safeguards, Is a lot better than what a republican will do.

  48. 258 Bobfr
    November 7, 2011 at 2:05 am

    Bottom Line Dear TODers:

    Our4thEstate Bobfr
    Americans – you saved the promise of America in 1860-64, 1932-36-40 & 2008 from the avaricious slave masters. 2012 must be biggest save ever

    Yes We MUST … DO More Together — we don’t get a 2nd chance on 7 Nov 2012

    • 259 Bobfr
      November 7, 2011 at 2:08 am

      Our4thEstate Bobfr
      America – We Do Not Get A 2nd Chance on 7 Nov 2012 – bit.ly/s1CQwZ Do not allow a 2000 or 2004 to ever happen again.

      For real.

      Yes We MUST … DO More Together — we don’t get a 2nd chance on 7 Nov 2012

  49. November 7, 2011 at 2:31 am

    Romney’s lack of traction carries well beyond the head-to-head matchups with other competitors. It also is reflected on discrete issues and candidate attributes. Considerable numbers of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents consider the health plan that Romney signed into law in Massachusetts and his Mormon religion as strikes against him.


    Bad news for Romney!

  50. November 7, 2011 at 7:45 am

    Where is everyone? I don’t see a new thread.

    • 262 EDP4BHO
      November 7, 2011 at 7:51 am

      Good morning Jackie. Was looking for one myself. Helloooo, anybody minding the store? I need you with my morning java 😀

      • November 7, 2011 at 8:12 am

        Good morning back. I also ask: Where is everyone?

        • 264 desertflower
          November 7, 2011 at 8:23 am

          Morning! It’s raining here. Rainy days and Monday’s:) We need it, so it’s all good. Weird that I see gobrooklyn’s post BELOW these newer posts…poor thing was trying so hard last night to put something up here and she never say it post…this morning, comments I made were thrown back, telling me that I already MADE that comment:) Oh…isn’t technology great.

  51. November 7, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Scarborough giving crazy analysis of wall street saying they have prospered more now than under bush. And that he is getting more donations from wall street.
    Ok, 2 things. 1 wall street ain’t hiring, but this president DOD wall street reform for tge banks and hcr regulations which they hate.
    2- an example of wall street is a Macy’s store-

    Their are plenty of employees that work at Macy’s that are democrats- and yes they donate to the president…
    The president dies not except any donations from CEOs or executives. And I watch the business channels, wall street hierarchy hates the president.
    So, WTF is morning Joe talking about? Is he trying to shame the president from not take g any more donations from wall street employees eho are democrats?

  52. November 7, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Press conference for 4th lady sexually assaulted by Cain.


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