good grief….

Had he, um, a beer or two before this ‘speech’?

Will catch up later, chat away 😉

138 Responses to “good grief….”

  1. October 30, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    OMG, he’s GWB dressed up as Perry for Halloween! Eeeeeeek!!

  2. 2 LOL
    October 30, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Yes Yes Yes…When I first saw this I was like Wha Wha What? Drugs are bad m’kay…..

    • October 30, 2011 at 12:33 pm


    • 4 Mel
      October 30, 2011 at 12:49 pm

      Woooooow!!!! Perry seems that he was feeling no pain, That’s how I talk after a few shots of Tequilas.
      I hope this vidio is send viral and to all the MSM send it to RM and Rev, Sharpton for starters, and yes to

      • October 30, 2011 at 12:52 pm

        I could only get through a couple of minutes. Just goofy and strange and embarrassing.

        • 6 utaustinliberal
          October 30, 2011 at 2:51 pm

          Me too Meta. A normal person would have to be high or on some Vicodin to warble and gesture like that. With Perry, that’s just a normal day.

        • October 30, 2011 at 5:23 pm

          I could only get through a couple of minutes….. Yes, Yes, and Yes! This man give me the heebie jeebies. He’s mean looking, scary looking, weird looking. My Interlect will not allow me to watch such, such, well , you figure It out 🙄

      • 8 Sue in Minnesota
        October 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm

        The viewers of Dumb Fux News would think he was just like them!

      • October 30, 2011 at 1:30 pm

        Or, like the time I misread the directions on some medicine that the dentist prescribed. He had given me some Vicodin and some Ibuprofen. Somehow, I got the impression that I was suppose to take both of them regularly to get rid on an infection that I had in my mouth. I took both every four hours for about a week. I didn’t have any pain and I was even operating heavy equipment, LOL!!! I just felt that I was in La La Land.

        Oh, I know how Rick Perry must feel! I know that I don’t ever want to feel that way again!

      • October 30, 2011 at 4:23 pm

        I’m surprised he didn’t start singing.

    • 11 Fred
      October 30, 2011 at 1:18 pm

      😆 😆 😆

    • 12 dotster3
      October 30, 2011 at 2:34 pm

      The sad thing is I doubt he was under the influence. I think that’s just who he is. Real rough around the edges, with real nightmare policy positions. Horrifying that someone of this caliber is in the running for POTUS.
      My other thought—–some people are just begging for a pie in the face….smug, know-nothing, obnoxious people like this fool.

    • 14 LOL
      October 30, 2011 at 2:42 pm

      zomg….someone on YouTube said the race may came down to two people…..a Mormon and a moron. Oh my sides.

  3. October 30, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    OMG! It’s HALLOWEEN at it’s scarriest!

  4. 17 Bill
    October 30, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    “Herb” Cain and Bachmann on the Sunday morning shows today made no more sense than Perry. There has never been a collection of candidates such as these Republicans in history.

    • October 30, 2011 at 1:11 pm

      Gawd, Cain got smacked by the old coot Bob Schiffer. The only thing I agree with on Cain’s weird video is that folks do have a choice. Just as folks like Cain have a responsibility to be conscious of what they put out there.

  5. October 30, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    THIS is the man that the people of Texas elected as their Governor and the Rs believe qualified to be next President? OMG. What a moron.

  6. 20 Debz
    October 30, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    He’s high on something, I just don’t know if it’s beer!

  7. October 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    This cowboy is still fighting at the Alamo Eeehaaaw!

  8. 22 cuphalffull
    October 30, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    All I can say is this must not be the favorite candidate of the Bush/Cheney/Rove contingent (that includes our governor Mitch Daniels) or the Koch contingent (maybe they are the same) because this guy’s nonsense is suddenly being let through the filter that has so tightly controlled the message for so long. All I can hope is that Texas will turn true blue (as opposed to Dixiecrat) after this guy is exposed for the crazy that he is.

  9. 25 LOL
    October 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Around the 8:20 mark he reminds me soooo much of Butters from South Park- just as oblivious to his surroundings as can be. Did you see him marvel at the maple syrup. Sweet Mother of Mary this guy is off his rocker.

  10. 27 jacquelineoboomer
    October 30, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    I can’t bear to watch the video, but I’ve seen him “in action” before. Hate the way he stops speaking when there’s applause and gets this simple smile on his face, but guess I understand since he probably hasn’t gotten much applause in the rest of his life.


    Watched Face the Nation where Bob S took down Herb C, in a very gentlemanly way. Cain didn’t notice the snark, which was fun to watch.

  11. October 30, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    The media says perry being high is bad news for Obama!

  12. October 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm


    WTF was he saying?

    • 33 hopefruit2
      October 30, 2011 at 1:14 pm

      I think he said that his mom had just put a macaroni & cheese casserole in the oven and he was going to check it to make sure it was done.

      • 35 nathkatun7
        October 31, 2011 at 1:22 am

        Please hopefruit, it’s not fair! I spilled my coffee all over my computer laughing so hard about your take on what Rick Perry was saying in that video! But then again, I do forgive you. I defy any one to make more sense than you did explaining exactly what this moron said. Just to think that this was the guy who was billed as the savior of the Republican party before he entered the presidential race.

    • October 30, 2011 at 1:17 pm

      OMG, that was so painful and embarassing to watch. I could not watch the entire video. We cannot have a leader like this representing the free world. Can you picture this clown sitting down with foreign leaders and making life or death foreign policy decisions?

  13. 37 hopefruit2
    October 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    Is this the person you want taking a 3AM call that there is an imminent terrorist attack on all the major US cities?

    • October 30, 2011 at 1:18 pm

      Hopefruit we were thinking the same thing. 🙂

    • 41 nathkatun7
      October 31, 2011 at 1:47 am

      Forget the 3AM call, hopefruit! I am not sure that this guy is capable of making the right decision even if he received the call about the “imminent terrorist attack,” on just one, and not all, major cities, at 9, 10, or 11AM; or another time of the day. From what I saw on that video clip, Rick Perry is either high on something, or he is truly operating in a different reality. He even made me think, God forbid, that G.W. Bush was not as bad as I thought. I must confess that entire roster of the current Republican presidential candidates, with the exception of the two faced Jon Huntsman, are, in hindsight, making G.W. Bush look good.

  14. October 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Remember when Bush went to China for the Olympics?

    He was wasted, snd their was a photo of him holding the Anerican flag upside down! Lol!

  15. 44 Uche
    October 30, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Alcohol,drugs..whatever!…methinks this man has serious mental issues.

  16. October 30, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    October 30, 2011 9:05 AM
    A Cain-Romney race in Iowa

    By Steve Benen

    Some polls matter more than others. In Iowa, the Des Moines Register’s Iowa Poll is widely considered the gold standard for Hawkeye State polling, and therefore gets considerably more attention than other surveys in the state.

    And while conditions are likely change, possibly more than once over the next nine weeks, at this point, it looks like Herman Cain and Mitt Romney are the dominant candidates.

    Former business executives Herman Cain and Mitt Romney lead the Republican field in Iowa in an election cycle in which likely GOP caucusgoers favor business experience over elective experience as a qualification for the presidency.

    The other contenders, despite their focus on the Hawkeye State, trail 10 percentage points or more.

    The power of Cain’s likability has vaulted him to the top of The Des Moines Register’s new Iowa Poll, with 23 percent of likely caucusgoers saying he is their first choice. The durable Romney, on part two of his presidential quest, coasts in with 22 percent.

    Ron Paul was a distant third with 12%, and was the only other candidate to reach double digits. Michele Bachmann, once considered the favorite in Iowa, was fourth with 8%, followed by Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich tied at 7% each. Rick Santorum was seventh with 5% support.

    Of particular interest was the kind of support the top two candidates are receiving; “The former Massachusetts governor earns the support of just 10 percent of those who say they definitely plan to vote in the caucuses (Cain is at 27 percent). And Cain dominates Romney among those who identify themselves as very conservative, by more than 3 to 1.”

    Given the nature of the caucus process, Cain’s more rabid supporters put him in a much better position, if it continues.

    The Romney campaign’s spin overnight was that Romney hasn’t really been campaigning in Iowa, so the fact that he’s faring so well is great news. While there’s some truth to that, the spin has a key flaw: Cain has campaigned in Iowa even less than Romney, and Cain is now in the lead.

    Of course, that leads to a series of other questions, most notably, is the nature of the campaign process — online activism, Fox News’ dominant role in the GOP, etc. — changing to such an extent that candidates can now excel in a state without bothering to spend a lot of time there?

    It also leads one to wonder, might Cain actually win in Iowa if he made a credible effort?

    Also note, Romney’s slow-but-steady strategy isn’t consolidating support — he’s actually lost a couple of points in Iowa since the mid-summer. For all the talk about inevitability and strong debate performances, Romney just hasn’t been able to expand his base of support at all.


  17. October 30, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Six missiles at one target? I think we got somebody big here, probably trying to confirm before making an announcement:


  18. 47 Ladyhawke
    October 30, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Steve Benen opines on the Perry debate debacle….

    An abrupt end to Perry’s debate trial balloon


    I posted this comment w/link to the youtube video
    When I first saw this youtube highlights video of Rick Perry giving the Cornerstone speech, I thought it was a joke. I thought it was one of those videos where someone used another voice for the comedic value. Well as far as I can tell, this is really Rick Perry speaking. It clearly shows that he is not ready for prime time.

    And by the way, I think he should insist like Michele (with one L) Bachmann that he will never use a teleprompter for his speeches. You will notice he spends a good deal of time looking down at notes on the podium. He makes weird grimaces with his face and strange gestures with his arms and hands. At times his voice inflections seemed to be out of synch with the arm movements. It was painful to watch.

    Being able to debate your opponents and give a coherent speech are bare minimum requirements for anyone seeking the office of president. Maybe he will get an extreme makeover before the next debate. His supporters better hope so. Because so far there is nothing about Rick Perry that is remotely presidential.

  19. October 30, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    I have never seen a presidential candidate behave this poorly in a public forum–he might as well have taken off his shoes and picked his toe jam to show he is without class.. In any other era, this “performance” would be an immediate disqualification and he would be forced to step down. This is how low we’ve come in tolerating idiocy in our candidates.

    In an earlier thread people mentioned Tweety’s making the statement that PBO could learn something from JFK and it got me thinking about the great journalists (real ones of that era) that routinely dealt with presidential issues: Edward R Murrow, Walter Cronkite, Chet Huntley and David Brinkley, John Cameron Swayze, John Chandler (to name a few)–all of them smart, insightful and seasoned warriors, who both inspired respect and accorded it even when they disagreed with the president’s positions. Compare and contrast with the tinpot pygmies masquerading as journalists today, Tweety included. Before Mathews starts drawing comparisons between one presidential era and another, he needs to look in the mirror. It will not be a pretty sight.

    Here are three qualities that JFK and PBO share: 1) They are two of the three most brilliant presidents in history (the third being Thomas Jefferson); 2) They both care (d) about all members of society and not just the well-to do, even though JFK was technically one of them; and 3) They are the two most charismatic presidents ever and the most effective speakers of all time. Plus, they were married to the two most gorgeous Flotuses in the modern era.

    • 49 Debz
      October 30, 2011 at 1:41 pm

      Even 4 years ago, this doofus along with every other repug candidate would be laughed out of politics. I blame McCain for this, if he hadn’t pushed that Alaskan idiot on this nation these fools would not even be considered worthy of cleaning the toilets in the White House.

      • 50 Bill
        October 30, 2011 at 1:48 pm

        Debz, I think you are correct about the lasting effect of the half term governor.

      • 52 Ladyhawke
        October 30, 2011 at 2:22 pm

        You nailed it debz. The reckless decision of John McCain to unleash Sarah Palin on this country has caused serious damage to the political climate and discourse. The unhinged and deranged GOP presidential candidates are an off shoot of the Palin VP nomination. Everyone is trying to get in on the act now. It is horrifying to think these clowns are running for the highest office in the land/

        By the way, I was in Barnes and Noble the other day and I saw Palin’s book Going Rogue for $5.00. That is seriously overpriced. I would not accept a free copy of that swill.

        • 53 Debz
          October 30, 2011 at 2:38 pm

          There was a time when respect for the office of the President was a given, these people have turned it into a joke! I can’t believe that even serious republicans are supporting these fools. Rove may hate Perry, but he will back him if he’s the candidate.

      • 54 JoJothecat
        October 30, 2011 at 2:41 pm

        No…I blame Rove for pushing the FIRST Texas idoit on us. I use to think,lhow awful could these people be? There are enough thoughtful people in congress to prevent them from destroying the country….I guess we found out how awful they can really be.

        • 55 Debz
          October 30, 2011 at 2:54 pm

          And we all thought it couldn’t get any worse than the first Texas idiot, and I sure don’t count on Congress to prevent anything. They were all happy to go along with Bush, and they don’t seem to be pushing back at the tea party people in the house.

        • 56 utaustinliberal
          October 30, 2011 at 2:55 pm

          Nailed it.

      • October 30, 2011 at 4:00 pm


        and, because the MSM went along with perpetuating that Caribou Barbie was qualified to possibly become President, they can’t stop now with the rest of the Clown Car

      • 59 nathkatun7
        October 31, 2011 at 1:57 am

        I think you are absolutely correct, Debz! Sarah Palin made idiocy and being clueless sexy! I know we’ve heard bad candidates in the past but no where near the level of lunacy displayed by the current Republican crop.

    • 60 Mae who love our CIC
      October 30, 2011 at 3:14 pm

      Good post. LOL at taking off shoes and picking toe jams.

      For you tweeters, this is a good one from Jackie. Maybe Chris Matthews can learn for few good things from real journalists.

  20. 62 donna dem 4 obama
    October 30, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Our little trick or treater about 45 years ago 🙂


    • 63 dotster3
      October 30, 2011 at 2:57 pm

      Love that photo. little Barack so cute and proud in his pirate outfit. And I love the way his mom is holding him close and protectively.

  21. October 30, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    What about this picture of Rahm on the subway being attacked by zombies?:



  22. 65 halo
    October 30, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Wow, the site seems to be much improved! I can get on much quicker without Firefox freezing!! Thanks Chipsticks!

    • October 30, 2011 at 2:20 pm

      Ah, Halo, that’s very good news! I’m very 😳 though – it never occured to me until today to reduce the number of posts in the page. I had the setting at 10, but because I’m now posting fewer but much longer threads it was obviously seriously slowing everything up. And there was me blaming browsers and everything else. I’m hoping this has improved things for everyone – please let me know, thanks!

      • 67 isonprize
        October 30, 2011 at 2:31 pm

        Rollin’ along, smooth and groovy, Chica. I think it may have been the amount of posts. On the other hand, when a post gets up to 185-190 comments, it also seems to take a while for things to load.

        Either way, it’s a small glitch to endure for the GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO!!! This site keeps me sane, FOR REAL!!!! 😀

        • October 30, 2011 at 6:34 pm

          My sentiments, too. Anything could be happening simultaneous to your accessing the Internet. I run my AntiVirus daily and sometimes when thing slow down, I check to see if something like that is slowing things down.

          Those of us living in the Beltway also have problems with cell phones and regular telephones, due to Big Brother!!!

      • October 30, 2011 at 2:38 pm

        Chip, did you pop that stupid spinning beachball?

      • 70 utaustinliberal
        October 30, 2011 at 2:58 pm

        It’s working fine Chips. But it also slows down when a post has like 190-200 comments or thereabouts. So when it gets to that high a number, it might be a good idea to create another thread so the system isn’t overloaded. Thanks.

  23. 71 Mtmarilyn
    October 30, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    When was this video made? Is it recent? They think this man can be President of the US? This is really dumbing down of America. I couldn’t get thru the whole thing.

    • 72 Sue in Minnesota
      October 30, 2011 at 2:05 pm

      The whole lot of them insult my intelligence.

    • October 30, 2011 at 3:01 pm

      I wondered if it was recent when I saw it posted in a thread last night, but he talks about a flat tax, which is a recent addition to his trainwreck of a campaign, so I concluded it was recent.

      I think he’s about to have a nervous breakdown. Apparently his wife is unraveling, too. I’ll bet he wishes he hadn’t entered the race. These are the big leagues, not backwater pay-to-play Texas politics.

      This man is dumb and delusional — a bad combination and very Palinesque. What’s the name of the book written by that Texas pundit who comes on MSNBC? “Adios Mofo: Why Rick Perry Will Make America Miss George W. Bush.” 😆 This dude makes Bush the Less look like a genius. 😯

      Anyway, he’s in meltdown mode. They must be keeping him heavily medicated. Oh well, he won’t be the first opponent of Barack Obama’s to self-destruct, and he won’t be the last.

      • 76 LOL
        October 30, 2011 at 3:33 pm

        it was a speech from this past Friday in new Hampshire

        • 77 Mtmarilyn
          October 30, 2011 at 4:09 pm

          This was from last week?!! Why do the teapubs think they want a so called average person to be in charge? I want someone who is much smarter than I am. I can’t comprehend all the things a President has to deal with. I want someone who can think in areas I can’t imagine. I am so thankful for the President and his brains and compassion.

          • 78 nathkatun7
            October 31, 2011 at 2:03 am

            Exactly, Mtmarilyn! Otherwise, I would also be running for president knowing fully well that I lack the leadership qualities of what it takes to be a president of this diverse country of over 300 million people.

  24. 79 desertflower
    October 30, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    OMG. Hardy har har! Slap my knee, and call me stupid. WTH WAS that?

  25. October 30, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    If you get a ton of junk maikl fornew credit cards, refinance schemes, etc, Watch this video and then get even.

    • October 30, 2011 at 2:37 pm

      That’s pretty clever. It’s amazing to me that anyone thinks it is okay to spend time doing that or camping out on the street but that they don’t have time to vote.

      • October 30, 2011 at 4:25 pm

        I agree. I think this is an interesting nuisance activity, and I wouldn’t be averse to just stuffing the envelope and mailing it back (I wouldn’t do the wood shim bit), but if they think the banks would be so engaged with this that they would spend less time lobbying Congress or foreclosing on houses, they’re delusional.

        • October 30, 2011 at 7:11 pm

          Another part of it is to make the return PACKAGE cost MORE than $.25 (25 cents, I sure miss the cent sign from computers). It could cost the wall street companies some extra money and help the Postal Service without given the carriers a hernia.

      • 84 Ladyhawke
        October 30, 2011 at 5:23 pm

        Tien Le, don’t get me started. My biggest problem with OWS is the lack of focus on voting and the GOP blocking the implementation of Dodd-Frank and job creation. Just imagine what would happen if the ows protesters across the country were doing GOTV drives and hammering the Republican Party for sabotaging the economic recovery.

        The best thing that the OWS has done is that they have changed to focus from deficits and draconian cuts to the outrageous imbalance between the 1% and the 99%. I am glad about that, but I certainly hope that eventually they will understand that the protests can be effective, but the real power is their vote on election day.

      • 85 nathkatun7
        October 31, 2011 at 3:25 am

        Exactly, Tien Le! This is my biggest disappointment with many in the OWS! People who have no time to vote have to be prepared to accept the will of the majority of those who vote; who most likely will be those voting against the interests of the OWS. “Camping out on the street” is commendable, but unfortunately it is less likely to impress law makers if it’s not accompanied and reinforced by voting. George Wallace who once proclaimed “segregation now, Segregation tomorrow, and Segregation Forever,” changed his tune once African Americans in Alabama were able to exercise their right to vote. In order to gain their votes he had to apologize for those remarks as well as articulate policies that were anti-segregation.

        If OWS is emulating the Arab Spring, all it needs to do is observe the enthusiasm of people Tunisia who finally were able to vote in a legitimate election for candidates to govern them. This notion that a true progressive in America is one who does not vote goes against the entire history of movements who struggled so hard to change the politics of this country. I am thinking of the Civil Rights Movement; the Suffragist Movement; the Trade Union Movement; and the movement to allow Eighteen years old people, who were eligible for to be drafted in the military, to vote.

        Ironically, it’s the individuals who are economically well off that are quick to urge people not to vote or participate in electoral politics. Obviously these people would not have their lives affected that much if the Republicans controlled the government. In fact many may still do quite well as they did under George W. Bush. The people I have in mind are people like: Michael Moore, Ed Shultz, Jane Hamsher, Glenn Greenwald, Cenk Uygur and Queen Arianna Huffington. But believe me, if workers (both public and private), students, people on medicare, people relying on SS income, and the entire middle class, didn’t vote, they would absolutely pay the consequences. This is what we are seeing in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, Indiana, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

        At 66, I’ve seen politics very close. 1968 many of us who were against the Vietnam war sat out the election and helped elect Richard Nixon over the veteran Civil Rights champion, Hubert Humphrey. Many of us who were so disappointed with Jimmy Carter, because we were looking for a pure progressive in a country that was increasingly turning conservative, either sat out the election or voted for a Republican Independent John Anderson, thereby by facilitating the election of Ronald Reagan. Then when I thought that we had had regained our senses by sticking with Bill Clinton, the most conservative Democratic President in terms of policy, we turned around and imposed a new litmus test on Al Gore. We were told that there was no difference between Gore and Bush. If you wanted to be considered a true progressive you came out in support of Ralph Nader. That was true of people like Michael Moore and Cornel West. The result: We ended up with George W. Bush. Until the holier than thou progressives can show me what it is they’ve managed to accomplish with supporting doomed third party candidates, or sitting out elections, I am not impressed with their short sighted tactics.

        Obviously, the mainstream media keeps giving these minority of so called Democrats national megaphone monopoly to criticize and continually bash President Obama. Thankfully, in this age of diverse media, there sites like this one that are prepared to push hard against this nonsense. Isn’t strange that the right wing teabaggers combined protest and political mobilization to elect extreme right wing Republicans, but yet the OWS, which bills itself as a progressive movement, eschews party affiliations and has members who don’t believe in voting. Is it not obvious that in the show down between the mobilized, voting teabaggers, and the passionate, non voting, OCW, the political winners, who would control the enactment of public policy, will be the voting teabaggers?

    • October 30, 2011 at 6:44 pm

      When there are repeats from the same Wall Strecompanies, just do a switcher-roo on the contents and add content of your own before sending them back!

  26. October 30, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Perry: ” I come form a place where my family named it N—-gerhead!” I feel lkie moving back to Canada, after seeing this shameful display of what America proclaims as a viable presidential candidate.

  27. 88 Bobfr
    October 30, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Our4thEstate Bobfr
    Watch this and ask yourself if you’d ever be able to sleep again if this were the guy getting the ‘3am call’ youtube.com/watch?v=7M4gz9… #DRUNKCOMA


    • 89 Bobfr
      October 30, 2011 at 2:16 pm

      Obviously, in the actual tweet the full link is to he video at the top of this post …. that guy finished himself with that performance. Can you imagine the hangover – OUCH!!!


  28. 90 Ladyhawke
    October 30, 2011 at 2:39 pm



    I just watched the rebroadcast of Meet The Press and I can’t wipe the smile off my face. David Gregory interviewed David Plouffe and I must say he was just outstanding (as always). This man is always relentlessly on message. He is so brilliant, it’s scary. It was an absolute delight to watch him respond to the questions. I could detect the frustration in DG because David Plouffe was just making so much sense.

    David Gregory tried to make a big deal about the comment that Bill Daley made that both Democrats and Republicans have made things difficult for President Obama. With the Republicans obstructing 100% against PBO and a handful of Blue Dog Democrats, Troubled Waters and Joe Lieberman who don’t agree with everything, David Gregory tries to give both equal weight. The problem is the GOP and David Gregory knows it.

    Then David Gregory trotted out this stupid meme that President Obama was sounding very down when he was in California. This is absolutely ludicrous. This is totally manufactured nonsense. The media is just so desperate for controversy. After three years of obstruction from the GOP is it any wonder that there is frustration in the White House?

    I loved it when David Plouffe said that Mitt Romney ‘HAD NO CORE’. He said he has watched President Obama in action. He said for anyone wanting to sit in the oval office they need conviction and the ability to make tough decisions.

    • 91 Bobfr
      October 30, 2011 at 2:57 pm


      Thought I’d let DG know how I feel 🙂

      Our4thEstate Bobfr
      @davidgregory No matter how hard you tried to spin the negative, David Plouffe put you in your place, #MtPNEWSTAINER that you are. #FAIL


      • 92 Ladyhawke
        October 30, 2011 at 3:00 pm

        Awesome Bobfr, I like your style. You are doing a remarkable job of keeping the gasbags honest. I salute you and all of your hard work.

      • 93 Mae who love our CIC
        October 30, 2011 at 3:20 pm

        You are letting no one get away with their bullshiggedy. I love your tenacity.

      • 94 nathkatun7
        October 31, 2011 at 3:39 am

        Bobfr, Thank you so much for speaking for me on twitter! I actually admire all the wonderful people on this site (UT, meta, hopefruit, just to name a few) who constantly challenge the MSM. Hopefully, one of these days I will sermon some courage to learn how to tweet. Until then I am just so delighted to see my views represented by you guys. Keep up the good work! And yes, Lets all “PRESS ON!”

    • 95 utaustinliberal
      October 30, 2011 at 3:01 pm

      David Plouffe was an absolute doll on MTP. His brilliance freaks me out and awes me. He’s so quiet and soft spoken but he wiped the floor with David Gregory and Mitt Romney.

      • 96 Ladyhawke
        October 30, 2011 at 3:13 pm

        It was truly a thing of beauty. David rocks. And he’s adorable like my Jay.

        It just occurred to me that this interview should be required viewing for every Democrat in congress. That’s how you do an interview Democrats. And while I’m at it, pay attention to the way Elizabeth Warren handles interviews. Notice how crisp and succinct she is in her responses. Notice how she always gets to the heart of the matter. Notice how plain spoken she is. Notice the passion. Democrats have some amazing people to emulate. There is no excuse why every Democrat should not be able to stay on message like David and Elizabeth. Just sayin…..

        • 97 TrumpDog
          October 30, 2011 at 8:30 pm

          Look; I’m trying to keep this a peaceful place but if you don’t back off Jay, you and I are going to have problems.

      • 98 geegee
        October 30, 2011 at 5:49 pm

        Loves me some DPlouffe too. His brilliant mind is right up there with PBO’s. Guess that’s one of the reasons he’s (Plouffe) a team member.

        Bobfr, keep those tweets coming; love ’em. 🙂

    • October 30, 2011 at 3:45 pm

      David said “no core”? Hahaha! Excellent. I would never be able to watch that jughead dummy David Gregory — he’s so dense, ugh! Glad to hear Plouffe is sharp as ever.

  29. October 30, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Good to see stories like this appear

    Studies challenge wisdom of GOP candidates’ plans


  30. 102 isonprize
    October 30, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    This is a SNL skit, right? REALLY, it is. Somebody tell me that this Perry video is a joke. It has to be a joke.

    He even says “nuke-a-ler” the same way that GW Bush did. Wow, what an idiot. I actually hope that he was drunk. Because if he wasn’t drunk, that’s even worse.

  31. October 30, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    OK, really, is this video real? Sorry, I couldn’t get through it. The media is a joke. I remember early when Perry came on the scene, how some was saying he is a straight shooter, blah, blah.

    What a joke?

  32. 105 Ladyhawke
    October 30, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Perry: Ending The Iraq War Is ‘Irresponsible,’ ‘Putting Our Kids’ Lives In Jeopardy’


    Today on Fox News Sunday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) told host Chris Wallace that Obama was flat-out “irresponsible” for bringing the troops home, because, he argued, it is “putting our kids’ lives in jeopardy”:



    • 106 anniebella
      October 30, 2011 at 3:09 pm

      Ladyhawke how is it putting our troops in jeopardy, if they are home. These guys are so dam stupid it’s shameful. Keeping them over there is putting our troops lives in jeopardy.

      • 107 anniebella
        October 30, 2011 at 3:10 pm

        By these guys, I meant Perry, cain, Romney, Bachmann, all of them.

        • 108 Ladyhawke
          October 30, 2011 at 3:21 pm

          The hazards of knee jerk GOP opposition to President Obama


          You can’t make this stuff up. The GOP is getting mangled up in their knee jerk opposition to anything proposed or accomplished by President Obama. So we have President Obama (a brilliant, charismatic and effective leader) making the GOP presidential candidates sound like babbling idiots. Because they just can’t be for anything President Obama is for. And sadly for them, President Obama is all FOR WHAT MAKES SENSE. That leaves the GOP making no sense at all.

          • October 30, 2011 at 4:01 pm

            This is actually one of the most horrendous problems facing the Republican candidates. Since everyone polling above the margin of error has gone on record as being utterly opposed to or intensely critical of almost every popular thing President Obama has done, whoever wins will already be committed to positions and statements dramatically contrary to popular sentiment. And generally not out of any core belief and sometimes not even for ideological reasons, but because of a need to be consistently hostile to the President in order to remain viable in the primaries/caucuses. (What can I say, they’re primarily a caucasian-dominated party. (Joke.) =) )

            But coming out against the withdrawal from Iraq without clearly articulating a *very* strong reason for a continued military presence and/or insisting that you were only talking about a very limited presence (which has its own problems — if your force is small enough, can’t contractors and embassy troops handle it? Without making themselves a clear target?) is just terrible politically, whatever you think of the merits. Shouting that position as part of a muddled fields of candidates echoing the same sentiment is even worse.

            Insisting you want to continue indefinitely an unpopular war widely perceived as being well “past its shelf life”… for no particular reason. Well, that’s devastating. And really, it’s not even something you want to go back to and clarify until someone brings it up again — and rest assured, it *will* come up — because you don’t want to keep bringing this stuff to mind.

            Honestly, I thought these guys were about out of major issues they could kneejerk oppose the President on. They’ve pretty much covered everything. But we actually *came*back* to both Iraq and Qaddafi in one week. And given the primary/caucus schedule, we’re presumably looking at least a few more months of this to come.

            All the “exposure” the candidates are getting is probably *not* good for the GOP as a whole. Rather than establishing one candidate as more moderate than another, or more competent, what they have really been doing is cementing an image of the party itself in the minds of the public, especially given the rotating position of “leading candidate” and who has been occupying it. Whatever you may think of the merits of those individuals, they have all suffered a crushing loss of credibility in the face of any scrutiny. Granted, some more so than others.

          • 111 Sandy1110
            October 30, 2011 at 8:42 pm

            I called this very early on in the Obama presidency when the GOP was talking about unilaterally opposing the Healthcare plan. I knew then that if POTUS said “up”, the GOP would say “down” and figured that if he said walking off a cliff was bad, they just might go on over the edge. It’s a bit scary that they’re seemingly so single-minded about messing him over at ANY cost – to them, to the voters, no matter.

    • 112 Debz
      October 30, 2011 at 3:10 pm

      I guess he’s not concerned with “our kids” who have been over there fighting and dieing in that useless war. Then again maybe he meant “our fetuses”

    • October 30, 2011 at 4:28 pm

      Wow! Just wow. Please tell me Wallace looked at him like he was insane.

    • 114 nathkatun7
      October 31, 2011 at 3:43 am

      How did Chris Wallace respond? Did he challenge Perry to support his assertions? If not, Wallace is as much at fault as Perry in selling nonsense to the American people.

  33. 115 criquet
    October 30, 2011 at 3:04 pm


    Please tweet, email send to friends family and the media. This awful Romney candidacy needs to be exposed as much and as often as possible.
    The work continues.

  34. 119 criquet
    October 30, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    PBO’s team are ramping up attacks…. yes….. :


    “David Axelrod goes there: GOP may be trying to destroy economy on purpose
    By Greg Sargent
    Here’s David Axelrod, on CNN today, pushing back on Candy Crowley’s suggestion that Obama bears some of the blame for Congress’s failure to act on the economy:

    I think this is something — something different going on right now. When you have the leader — the Republican leader of the Senate say, our number one goal — in the midst of this economy, our number one goal is to defeat the president, and they’re acting like it.
    They don’t want to cooperate. They don’t want to help. Even on measures to help the economy that they traditionally have supported before, like a payroll tax cut, like infrastructure, rebuilding our roads and bridges and surface transport. These — so you have to ask a question, are they willing to tear down the economy in order to tear down the president or are they going to cooperate?
    And, listen, there’s a reason why the Congress is at nine percent in some polls, approval, lowest in history. Because this is different than we’ve ever seen before.
    This is an argument that many Congressional Dems and surrogates, such as messaging chief Chuck Schumer, have been making for some time now. But to my knowledge Obama campaign officials have not been willing to go here in quite this way in a high profile setting (there was a fundraising email that made a similar case a few weeks ago). At the very least, this may be the first time a top Obama campaign official has linked this argument to the idea that this GOP behavior may be historically unprecedented, and that it may be a key reason for Congress’ historical unpopularity — it’s a broadening of the indictment.

    As you know, Obama’s newly aggressive populism and (gasp) partisan rhetoric has sparked a good deal of handwringing and complaining from centrist columists (see Brooks, David) and leading GOP officials (see Ryan, Paul), who have been arguing that the new approach is somehow out of bounds or that it risks alienating the middle of the country. Axelrod’s amplification of the charge that the GOP may be tanking the economy on purpose suggests the Obama campaign isn’t taking these objections too seriously.

    Indeed, it’s worth asking whether we’re seeing a fundamental shift in the thinking of the Obama team and some Dems — a basic recognition that the old rules don’t apply anymore, that the unprecedented tactics being employed by the opposition require a new kind of response. As Dana Milbank notes, you can see the evidence of this in the unapologetic populism driving Elizabeth Warren’s Senate candidacy, which suggests that “Democrats will no longer play by Marquess of Queensbury rules while their opponents disembowel them.”

    But this may be about something broader than just a new approach to Republicans. The Occupy Wall Street protests; our political conversation’s intense new focus on inequality and economic justice; and the extraordinary levels of voter anxiety and dissatisafaction with our institutions all seem to suggest that the political landscape is shifting in ways we can’t really appreciate yet. It looks like the Obama campaign is placing its bet on what kind of political response these big changes are demanding.

    By Greg Sargent | 12:14 PM ET, 10/30/2011 “

    • 120 Ladyhawke
      October 30, 2011 at 3:37 pm


      They know where the problem is but they don’t want to report it.


      This was an absolutely glorious read. I am so thrilled to see this. No on, no one can say that President Obama has not tried to work with the Republican Party. So no one should be surprised that there has come a time when President Obama says ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. During this time of crisis, the WH is understandably frustrated. The White House is mad as hell and they are not going to take it any more.

      The GOP had their opportunity to act like adults. Now that they see how effective PBO has been taking the AJA to the American people they want to negotiate. PBO and his team did all the work on the AJA. There’s nothing to negotiate. All the GOP has to do is bring the bill up for a vote and stop filibustering. It’s not that complicated.

      What drives me crazy are the gasbags, columnists and hosts that are concern trolling about why PBO is not negotiating with the GOP. I mean where have these people been. Everyone knows that the Republicans are sabotaging the economy. Just look at the bills that they have introduced in the House of Representatives since taking the majority. It is a disgrace that the media overlooks this very important piece of information when they hammer PBO for not doing enough.

      The media just wants to be able to say a pox on both their houses. It absolves them of doing their job of reporting the facts and letting the chips fall where they may.

  35. October 30, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Behold the GOP candidates in Michigan:

    surveyusa SurveyUSA
    by TrumpDog1
    In Michigan, Obama Leads Romney by 11 Points, Leads Paul by 18, Leads Cain, Perry, Bachmann, and Gingrich by Mor… http://bit.ly/nsCL03

  36. October 30, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    Though I’ve been checking in briefly since Friday, haven’t had time to say “hello” or wish HZ a blessed and Happy Birthday. Was at a cabin in Pigeon Forge with our Life Group from church Friday and yesterday. Today our church hosted a City-Wide Worship in the Knoxville Convention Center. All three campuses joined together plus a number of visitors. Including workers, kids, musicians and congregation, we had around 3000 people worshiping and praising God this morning. WOW! What a day! Thanks for letting me share. I’m still rather “high.” In fact, after reading all the comments, I was not about to even begin watching the Perry video.

  37. 128 Ladyhawke
    October 30, 2011 at 4:02 pm



    1) Cain Smears Planned Parenthood: Accuses Group of ‘Genocide,’ Says Its Goal Is To ‘Kill Black Babies’


    2) Cain: My Administration Would Support Alabama’s Anti-Immigrant Law


  38. October 30, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    He looks like a bobblehead. He said ‘nuc-u-lar”. And he’s reading straight off his notes.

  39. October 30, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Okay, this is off topic, but if you want a feel good moment what this amazing video of Little Richard at the age of 9. That kid was a genius.

  40. 132 No Child Left Behind
    October 30, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Good Evening Everyone and Happy Birth HZ!

    If this video is a true performance of Perry, Texas and an the GOP are doomed. Who put something in that guy’s drink???

    Press On, President Obama. We are with you.

  41. 133 GOVCHRIS1988
    October 30, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    What in the hell is this? He makes George W. Bush look like Don Rickles. My God, what a turd.

  42. 134 Dave
    October 30, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    GIVE ME AN ‘M’!
    GIVE ME AN ‘O’!!
    GiVE ME AN ‘R’!!!
    GIVE ME A NUTHER ‘O’!!!!
    GIVE ME AN ‘N’!!!!!

    RICK PERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. October 30, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Oh well, what does it matter? You don’t have to be intellligent, or coherent to be the Republican nominee.

  44. October 30, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    David Axelrod is someone you really want in your corner. What he said on CNN is so perfectly true–I have no words.

  45. 138 Cindy Sweatt
    October 30, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Rick Perry giddily blowing double kisses to the audience? Seriously? Does he look in the mirror and think that blowing kisses is presidential? Come on people, let’s get moving. The Repubs need to be looking at our backs. We have a moral obligation to America to make sure President Obama is elected for a second term.

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