The President asks the Asheville crowd what they want – the reply: “Jobs!”

President Obama heads to his bus after speaking at Asheville Regional Airport in Fletcher, N.C. at the start of his three-day bus tour promoting the American Jobs Act

109 Responses to “asheville”

  1. 1 Debz
    October 17, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Hi Chips, if possible, can you remove the link to the donate page in the “Morning” thread, it has personal info on it.

  2. 2 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 10:50 am

    CNN saying they will cover it live—-don’t know if that means in its entirety or just the first 2 minutes as they usually do.

  3. 3 JER
    October 17, 2011 at 10:53 am

    PBO speaking now is Asheville: http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews

  4. October 17, 2011 at 10:55 am

    It’s coming thru great from the WLOS link up above.

  5. 5 professorx10
    October 17, 2011 at 10:55 am

    AHHHHHH! Pres Obama is on Life Now
    you can watch here on C-span

  6. 6 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 10:56 am

    CNN cut away, msnbc airing it for now, until they feel the need to comment.

    • 7 Mel
      October 17, 2011 at 12:17 pm

      doster3 sorry fuck CNN I just watched the speech on C-SPAN he is fired up the people were great they do
      understand what’s going on on Washington with the GOP. But. but, but The MSM keep saying that his polls
      are going down, whan in fact 63% of the people aproved of the AJA plan and what this President is doing.
      The MSM is playing and lying like hell to us. let’s stop paying attention to those assholes oh will go crazy.
      So press on TOD people and do not look back.

  7. 8 Ladyhawke
    October 17, 2011 at 10:57 am




  8. 10 Linda
    October 17, 2011 at 10:59 am

    He is wearing his lucky checked shirt.

  9. 12 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Obama being nice and clear—-‘the Republicans said no to you’—–when 63% of the public supports the jobs bill, Repubs blocked it.

  10. October 17, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Since it took me “forever” to write my last post I am repeating it here. Hi Guys I missed you


    Good Morning TOD family

    I have been away the last few days, mostly because the Occupy Santa Rosa event was held on Saturday. I have an article with pictures you can visit. I also wanted to give you my impressions.

    1. We had 3,000 in attendance (that is the police estimate). This was the largest gathering I can remember, an average MoveOn rally draw 200. We are a town of 160,000. We drew from the entire county but by any measure this was HUGE.

    2. We had 6 speakers, 3 hispanic, 3 white, union leader, hispanic activist, economics professor from Sonoma State, represetnative from peace and Justice center. All the speeches focused on corporate greed, money in politics, attacks on the middle class. the anger seems to be at Wall Street, not government. The exception is anger against politicians who they feel are corrupt and paid for by special interests. PBO was not mentioned during any of the speeches. The college professor suggested: the repeal of bush tax cuts, overturn citizens united, full implementation of Wall Street Reform passed last year, all things the President supports.

    3. After the speakers we marched by 3 major banks. I was on crowd control so everyone had to walk by me. I looked at all the signs to see if any were negative ones about PBO. I did not see one. Most of the signs do not mention the president one way or the other. I did see 2 signs that addressed the presidency – A picture of President Bush with the phrase under it “Thanks for blaming the black guy” and another sign that said, “President Obama, listen to us, support Occupy Wall Street, realize we are your base”. That was it. I heard 2 young folks talking who seemed mad at the President and said he wouldn’t get a second term. The overwhelming majority of signs discuss wall street, corporations who control elections, lack of jobs, lack of support for education, concern about the environment.

    4. The crowd was primarily white, middle class, and about 2/3 middle age or retired and 1/3 young. That last stat is significant since most rallies have almost no young folks. We had a small group of Hispanics, we have almost no African Americans living in the community, a sprinkling of Asians, but primarily whites.

    5. The crowd was well behaved, peaceful, a few fringe folks who seemed a bit crazy, but overall a solid group of citizens who you would want to support your causes.

    6. About 50 folks stayed to occupy in front of City Hall. They are primarily young, passionate and not very informed about how government works. they are figuring out how to live and work together by holding General Assemblies where they have a fairly formal and respectful set of rules for discussion.

    7. One of the reasons we had such a large crowd was they had the support of many major groups within the community, Democratic party, MoveOn, Teachers union, Nurses union, SEIU, AFLCIO. All of these groups appreciate the fact that Occupy has the people’s attention, now we are hoping they will focus that attention to causes we support. Our strategy has been to get to know the leaders, offer our support when needed and then back away. I believe this will be effective.

    8. As an example I stopped by yesterday with cupcakes and said call me if you have nay needs. A few hours later they called me and asked my advice on an event they are planning for Tuesday, they will be asking the Santa Rosa City council to pull their $$ out of B of A and Wells fargo and put it in a local bank. I talked to them, went over and talked to their leaders, planned to speak at the GA but had to leave before I could make suggestions. (the GA goes on and on it is a very democratic process but takes a long time) Before the meeting I talked to several folks and endorsed their idea and encouraged them to talk to our “Go Local” leaders. They are planning a Saturday rally and I suggested they ask someone from Go Local to hold a workshop on Local Banking and the go Local program. We will see if they take that suggestion. They also called the President of our Democratic party and he gave them advice on how to present and speak to the City council.

    9. My overall impression is the general public is pissed off, they felt great having a way to express it, in my community they are mad at Wall street, corporations and rich people. Now we see how that anger is focused.

    Here is the article I posted on my blog, there are quite a few pictures.

    Proud To Protest

    • October 17, 2011 at 11:31 am

      Good account of the happenings there.

      Are you encouraging them to vote?

      • October 17, 2011 at 2:19 pm

        HI Jovie

        Yes that is part of the long term plan.

        At the moment they are planning to attend the local City Council meeting tomorrow and ask that city money be removed from B of A and Wells Fargo, this weekend they are planning another rally, I am encouraging them to ask the Go Local group to speak and answer questions about moving your money from a big bank to a credit union.

        I have not brought up voter registration yet because they are kinda like a skiddish horse that doesn’t want to be saddled.The president of our Democratic party is talking with them daily and he may suggest that to them eventually. . I will leave it to him but help if they decide to do it.

    • 16 57andFemale
      October 17, 2011 at 11:43 am

      Thank you for this.

    • 17 PoliticalJunkessa
      October 17, 2011 at 12:11 pm

      Thanks for the rundown. Sounds great.

    • 18 TrumpDog
      October 17, 2011 at 12:21 pm

      You. Rock.
      Thank you for being there and thanks for the on the ground account. Much better than the “liberal” media.

  11. 19 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Dirtier air and dirtier water, no healthcare—-that’s the Repub jobs plan.

  12. 20 Ladyhawke
    October 17, 2011 at 11:05 am

    President Obama is calling out the Republicans for blocking the American Jobs Act. 100% of the Republicans voted against it.

    Now he is eviscerating the Republican Jobs plan and mocking the elements….

    No regulations
    Wall Street can do whatever it wants
    Drill more
    Repeal health care reform
    Dirty Air
    Dirty Water

    Then he ticks off the elements of the AJA. He says he feels better about his plan. Hilarious….

  13. 21 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Too funny….People keep shouting “right now!” after every sentence the President utters!

  14. 26 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2011 at 11:07 am

    “RIGHT NOW!”

  15. 27 Ladyhawke
    October 17, 2011 at 11:10 am

    President Obama is ripping the scab off the Republican Party obstruction. He is making it plain. He is telling it like it is. This is just fantastic.



  16. October 17, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Another important aspect of OWS is the tremendous press coverage it is getting compared to most protests.

    There were 3 articles in the local paper BEFORE the event. One of those articles was on the front page of the printed edition. It made the paper again the day of the event. When I went over there last night for the General Assembly there was a reporter interviewing occupiers.

    Here is the article written by our local paper.

    Occupy Santa Rosa draws big turnout

    I would encourage all who read this blog to keep an open mind, if you have time work with these folks. They re passionate, they have legitimate andger, and they don’t really know how to channel it. If they are not supporting causes you believe in it is probably from ignorance not from malice.

    This story from Need to Know does a good job of contrasting the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street movements.


    Occupy does not trust Wall Street, tea Party does not trust government.

    • October 17, 2011 at 11:21 am

      Their cause is right, their target is not. They should be occupying the congress and the corporate msm offices, who are the true wall-street enabling culprits.

    • 30 bonkers
      October 17, 2011 at 11:40 am

      WIW, Your web site is becoming a place I visit more and more and I’ve been telling others about it more frequently, so I really appreciate all you’re doing, especially the organizing aspects!

      I’m happy to hear your report about the Occupy activity in Santa Rosa and how it’s not anti-President Obama, and that gives me hope something good can come out of it.

      I’m curious for your thoughts on the problem I’ve had with OWS from the beginning – why now? The Wisconsin protests had and have a clear Action from all that energy, which is recall, first the legislators and now they’re onto the Governor. President Barack Hussein Obama was just launching an all-out campaign to help millions of Americans with his Jobs push, which included a very clear “Pass This Bill” action item for people. His talk today in NC shows he was just warming up about this Jobs push.

      Given this, why would this OWS start right when the “Pass This Bill” campaign was hitting full stride, and basically suck up a lot of the energy that “Pass This Bill” could’ve benefited from, and instead be filling the airwaves and papers with a confusing message based upon anger and no clear Actions for people whatsoever? That’s been my main concern. I trust your thoughts so much that I’d be interested to hear what you think about that. Thanks again!

  17. 31 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 11:12 am

    If Repubs block again, they’re going to have to come to N.C. and explain to you why they’re keeping people unemployed and denying sm. bsns. tax cuts and middle class tax cuts while they continue to give sweet tax deals to the wealthiest and to corporations.

  18. 32 hopefruit2
    October 17, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Asheville LOVES it some President Obama! Asheville is ready to put America back to work RIGHT NOW!

  19. 37 FiredUpINCA
    October 17, 2011 at 11:15 am

    The audience in Asheville was totally in sync with the President. They didn’t need to be prompted with applause lines. I believe some of the folks standing behind him will be calling or tweeting their reps in congress later on today.

  20. 38 Ladyhawke
    October 17, 2011 at 11:16 am



  21. October 17, 2011 at 11:18 am

    My favorite part is when he shakes all those hands, after the speech. Look at all those people that Hate him? Lol!

  22. 40 Debz
    October 17, 2011 at 11:19 am

    But the msm told me he doesn’t spend time on rope lines. Do I believe them or my lying eyes?

  23. 41 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 11:19 am

    WLOS said President Obama will be making spontaneous stops in the area and they will be following throughout the day.

  24. October 17, 2011 at 11:26 am

    He is on again at 5 on Cspan1.

  25. 45 Ladyhawke
    October 17, 2011 at 11:30 am

    This bus tour has got to be the GOP’s worst nightmare. That’s why they keep saying President Obama shouldn’t be campaigning he should be in Washington negotiating with them. Bottom line, he is circumventing the media firewall and getting his message out to the American people. And that’s the problem for the GOP and the media stenographers – they can’t control the narrative and it’s driving them crazy.

    • 46 dotster3
      October 17, 2011 at 11:37 am


    • October 17, 2011 at 11:54 am

      He is not only taking it the people directly. He has already established a grass-roots organization working on his behalf. Of course,the msm and their masters can’t handle it.

    • 48 FiredUpInCA
      October 17, 2011 at 11:56 am

      If he stays in D.C….’Why is he afraid to meet with the American people?’ If he tours the country… ‘Why isn’t he in Washington?’… If he gives speeches to the country… ‘He’s overexposed.’ If he takes a break from speaking… ‘Why is he aloof?…

      Meanwhile more than 273 days passed before the jobs, jobs, jobs GOP put forward an alternative plan to the President’s job plan or spoke to the American people about their stale, hackneyed jobs plan that offers no immediate relief.

      The media says nothing about this political malpractice and abdication from governance.

      Yet the day the jobs plan is filibustered and tabled by a unified GOP (including “moderates” like the Maine twins) all the media heathers ask if the President is really doing enough to work with the GOP.

      Livelihoods and lives are stake, not to mention the rising tensions that mirror global discontent about wealth inequality and yet this the state of our national conversation when it comes to a national emergency like current jobless rate is completely dishonest, GOP-biased and superficial.

      I’m grateful for whole food supplements and not owning a television for keeping my blood pressure in check, because this stuff would drive me crazy if I took it seriously.

      • 49 Ladyhawke
        October 17, 2011 at 12:04 pm

        Preach FiredUpinCA.

      • 50 donna dem 4 obama
        October 17, 2011 at 12:11 pm

        Fired Up can I post this ^^^ on Facebook?

        • 51 FiredUpInCA
          October 17, 2011 at 12:53 pm

          By all means Donna Dem 4 Obama… This paragraph should replace the one above. (Cleaned up a few errors):

          Livelihoods and lives are stake, not to mention the rising tensions that mirror global discontent about wealth inequality and yet this is the state of our national conversation when it comes to a national emergency like the current jobless rate: completely dishonesty, GOP-biased and superficial.

  26. 52 anniebella
    October 17, 2011 at 11:31 am

    The President was right on this morning. Looking forward to this trip.

  27. 53 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Reuters is reporting that Senate Dems are going to force a vote this week on this first portion of the AJA—putting teachers, firefighters and policemen back to work, as opposed to AP story today that this would not be happening.

    • October 17, 2011 at 11:35 am

      Email AP.
      Tge problem with most news organizations, the democrats ignore them and the republicans feed them all day with spun and garbage.

    • 55 nintendowii10
      October 17, 2011 at 11:36 am

      I would not be surprised to see the Senate Republicans filibuster it… proving they don’t care how many people stay unemployed, as long as it means the black usurper in the Oval Office is denied another term in office, which is what all of their obstructionism is REALLY about.

      • 56 Ladyhawke
        October 17, 2011 at 11:55 am

        President Obama was brilliant this morning. He has set the stage for the votes this week. He basically said that it seemed having the AJA as one package was hard to understand for the GOP (snark). So the bill will be broken down into separate elements starting with the teaches and firefighters. He said he was giving the GOP another opportunity to vote for jobs. He said if they vote NO again, they won’t have to answer to HIM, they will have to answer to their constituents.

        Check please……

      • 57 57andFemale
        October 17, 2011 at 12:07 pm

        There are serious political advantages to this: We can say, “Republicans voted against putting cops and firefighters on the street and teachers in the classroom”. And because it will be one issue at a time it should be easy enough for even the lazy MSM to understand.

    • 58 Debz
      October 17, 2011 at 11:38 am

      I will be interested to see what the repugs do on that vote. They keep pissing off their supporters. The police generally back repugs, but recently the FOP sent their members an e-mail telling them to call their reps in congress to pass the Presidents jobs bill.

    • 59 anniebella
      October 17, 2011 at 11:46 am

      I don’t trust AP at all

  28. 60 Charmed
    October 17, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Peggy Noonan was right….NOBODY like Obama……LMAO….I bet she’s hating him RIGHT NOW.

  29. 65 nintendowii10
    October 17, 2011 at 11:34 am

    This is what I enjoy most out of POTUS, his timing is NEVER off.

    Too many folks on the emoprog left said he was weak, spineless, has no balls, etc etc etc… all to be proven WRONG once again.

    He’s been hammering at Orange Boner and the Teabags in the House, McTurtle McConnell and the Teabgs in the Senate, and suddenly Tavis Smiley, Maxine Waters, Glenn Greenwald, Cenk Uygar, Jane Hamsher and the other heroes of the emoprog left are NOWHERE to be found. Where are they to whine about how much President Obama continues to “cave” into Republicans and not taking them on? Where are they to continue to call him a Republican, a Wall Street puppet, a DLC sellout who needs to be primaried?

    Unlike the emoprog left, President Obama knows when and how to triangulate his punches. The emoprog left wanted him to throw powerful haymakers at the beginning of the bout, whereas President Obama wanted to save those powerful punches when his opponents are tired and going down for the count. I’m glad the emoprog left is silent for now, but still pissed off that NONE of them will admit that they were WRONG WRONG WRONG about our POTUS.

  30. October 17, 2011 at 11:45 am

    I love it. The Republicans couldn’t understand the entire bill so he has to break it down for them. Stupid Republicans !

  31. October 17, 2011 at 11:49 am

    OOps, I forgot that I had cleared my computer cookies and forgot to sign in. I have a post lingerng somewhere. 🙂 I absolutely love the bus tours. I also loved the kids in the video upthreaf when they said that PBO was awesome and help people out. (from the mouth of babes) 🙂

  32. October 17, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Your money at work

    President Obama is exploiting his early lead in campaign fund-raising to bankroll a sprawling grass-roots organization and information technology apparatus in critical general election battlegrounds.
    Since the beginning of the year, Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee, for which the president is helping raise money to finance his party’s grass-roots efforts, have spent close to $87 million in operating costs, according to a New York Times analysis of campaign finance reports filed with the Federal Election Commission. That amount is about as much as all the current Republican candidates together have raised so far in this campaign.
    The president is already paying staff employees in at least 38 states, including Wisconsin, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Mexico and North Carolina. His Chicago campaign headquarters hums with more than 200 paid aides.

    And Mr. Obama has spent millions of dollars investing in social media and information technology, applying both savvy and brute technological force to raising small-dollar donations, firing up volunteers and building a technical infrastructure to sustain his re-election campaign for the next year.

    The gap in spending underscores facts easily lost amid the president’s low approval ratings, his challenges in winning over independent voters and the gridlock he faces in Washington: Mr. Obama brings unmatched financial resources to the campaign trail, and a team with a well-honed sense of where and how to deploy money, people and technology.


    Read i.

    • 74 Sue in Minnesota
      October 17, 2011 at 12:01 pm

      Wish they stuff their “low approval rating” meme where the sun don’t shine. He is more highly regarded than any other politician in America, despite the deperate lies and false narratives of our desperate media.

      • 75 Sue in Minnesota
        October 17, 2011 at 12:02 pm

        opps …delete ‘deperate’……

      • 76 dotster3
        October 17, 2011 at 12:23 pm

        And every story, no matter the subject, mentions the “low approval rating”. I guess the aim here is if you keep repeating it, it becomes reality. I never see any approval rating mentioned in stories about the Repub candidates, or rarely, but it always is a part of every Obama news story.

        • 77 Debz
          October 17, 2011 at 12:35 pm

          They all mention “low approval ratings” and his “struggling Presidency” and “he is losing supporters” You are right they believe if they repeat it enough, it will be true! This kind of reminds me of “the Bradley effect” and the “working class white people won’t vote for him” from the 08 election.

  33. October 17, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    If you missed Dan Rather giving the media hell yesterday at the MLK Memorial Dedication, here it is:


    • 79 Ladyhawke
      October 17, 2011 at 12:11 pm

      Thanks meta, Dan was awesome yesterday. If anyone has the credibility to blast the pathetic state of the media today, it’s Dan Rather. What a breath of fresh air that was yesterday.

    • 80 donna dem 4 obama
      October 17, 2011 at 12:14 pm

      Thanks Meta, I’m tweeting this to the so-called media critic for the Washington Post – Howard Kurtz

    • 81 Lorraine
      October 17, 2011 at 12:30 pm

      I’ve always loved Dan Rather, he is an amazing reporter. I think Ted Koppell is pretty awesome too.

      • 82 Debz
        October 17, 2011 at 12:37 pm

        Dan Rather is one of the last remaining Real reporters. How sad there are so few left with integrity.

        • 83 Lorraine
          October 17, 2011 at 12:49 pm

          Yup, he is the last of a dying bred, reporters with morals and integrity.

        • October 17, 2011 at 12:57 pm

          I was a student in US from 1933-85. All evenings, you would find me before teevee CBS Dan Rather and Ted Koppel’s Nightline. As a strong believer in fourth estate being the fourth pillar of democracy, I am disgusted the way the american msm has evolved since then.

  34. 85 57andFemale
    October 17, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Ezra Klein had the most effective frame last week on MSNBC I think: a tax cut, even for the middle or lower class, goes to buying junk made in China. A government infrastructure program: not only have we employed people, but we will have a bridge to show for it for the next 50 years. An electrical grid that will compete with modernizing nations for the next 100 years. Broadband to connect the country to the 21st century.

    Only government can do that.

    And as Elizabeth Warren said (and keeps saying): it is the responsibility of the well-to-do and businesses who have benefited from our infrastructure to invest in the infrastructure for the next generation.

    • October 17, 2011 at 12:33 pm

      So true. BTW, has kllein got rid of his recent pl disease ?

      • 87 57andFemale
        October 17, 2011 at 2:07 pm

        It comes and goes. By and large I find his analysis useful and reasoned. Some criticism is okay, as long as it isn’t damaging. Klein would be the first to say that he is happy with the progress made, and would like to see more in the future. I don’t have a problem with that being voiced, as long as it isn’t the infantile PL b.s. that doesn’t get the political realities of what can actually be accomplished.

        It’s infantile and intellectually dishonest: celebrate progress and work for more. Medicare when it was passed was nowhere near what it is today. To attribute abject failure because HCR, for example, was not perfect and in their childish minds therefore worthless, is just plain stupid and dangerous.

        I’m not saying I’ve seen every segment Ezra Klein has done on TV, but for the most part I see that he gets the distinction. I don’t mind if he voices some frustration once in awhile, as long as he understands that perils of Republican rule. I think he gets it.

  35. 88 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    What is that lady doing on Obama’s head?

  36. 93 Ladyhawke
    October 17, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    House GOP Won’t Allow Jobs Bill Vote But Spends Taxpayer Cash Defending DOMA

    During the campaign for the 2010 midterm elections, Republicans stressed that their focus in the 112th session of Congress would be jobs, jobs, jobs, and in keeping with their predilection to lying, they have not made any effort to create jobs or help the economy. What they have done for nine months besides kill jobs and damage economic recovery is obey one of their two masters with religious fervor reminiscent of Islamic extremists in Afghanistan. The GOP has faithfully complied with the Koch brothers’ libertarian mandates, but their corporatist agenda takes a backseat to their work for evangelical Christians.


    • 94 nintendowii10
      October 17, 2011 at 12:39 pm

      And this is the same GOP that Orange Boner promised would focus like a laser on jobs… focused like a laser on ELIMINATING as many jobs as possible, to deny Barack Obama another term in office.

      President Obama and the Democrats need to continue to point that out and point it out consistently. The more they do, the more ticked off Republicans become because they have NOTHING substantive to counter with, just more pointless Obama/Dem bashing about them being tax and spenders.

  37. 95 Debz
    October 17, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    There was a man holding a cute baby in the front row and PBO held the cutie, I hope Pete got a good photo!! You just know the father watched Chip’s video and wanted POTUS to hold his child!! 🙂

  38. October 17, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    ‘herb’ cain tied with mittens at 25% to 26% on ccn national poll with only 10% of repub base undecided. govnor goodhair is toast at distant 13%.


    I don’t know about you guys. I am all for cain, the clown, winning the nomination. A landslide with over 450 EV’s is a done deal.

    • 98 nintendowii10
      October 17, 2011 at 12:47 pm

      I keep on saying it, Cain isn’t campaigning for anything but a position on Fox Propaganda, like Donald Trump and Sarah Palin.

      Cain has virtually no ground campaign going, it’s strictly media, like Donald Trump. Cain also continues to say stupid things, his latest being that he wants to see an electrified fence around the Texas-Mexico border to keep illegal immigrants out. He later claimed he was “joking.”

      Cain will drop out before the primaries begin and hope and beg Ailes to hire him on Fox Propaganda “because he’s black” just like he hired Sarah Palin “because she’s hot.

      • October 17, 2011 at 1:16 pm

        I heard someone this morning say that Cain did not have any staff. He is really feeling himself now, as my mother would say. 🙂

  39. October 17, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Why Romney is Likely To Win Nomination
    by BooMan
    Mon Oct 17th, 2011 at 11:01:45 AM EST

    It seems like no one can quite believe that the Republicans will nominate Mitt Romney, but no one can picture anyone else getting the nomination, either. I know that’s how I feel. There is really only one area where Romney makes sense for the Republicans, and it’s not the economy. Romney is the only Republican candidate who has enough familiarity with foreign affairs to make a plausible president. I don’t mean that Romney has more direct experience. Probably, disgraced former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich and former Senator Rick Santorum have more experience dealing with foreign dignitaries and matters of national security. But each of them is slightly crazy, in their own way. Romney, like Obama, is qualified to handle foreign policy simply because he’s intelligent, curious, and well-traveled. If he became president he wouldn’t, like Bush the Younger, have to staff his cabinet with people who actually have some idea of how the world works. He could take care of that end of things by himself. He could, in other words, be his own man in the White House.
    I don’t think you can say that about Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann or Ron Paul or Herman Cain. I guess you could say it about Jon Huntsman, but why bother? If anyone other than Romney wins the nomination, they’ll probably have to pick a running-mate who can actually run our foreign policy, much like Dubya tapped Dick Cheney. In other words, they won’t have the luxury of picking someone just to fire up the base. John McCain tried that, and it obviously didn’t work out. But it did pump some adrenaline into his campaign for a while.

    However, there’s a problem. Dubya had a field of respected people like Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, and Donald Rumsfeld to choose from. Where are the respected old-hands now? Who can step in and provide that kind of comfort level? It seems to me as if the modern GOP is utterly bereft of leadership. Over the last decade and a half, their leaders have systematically discredited themselves. Think about the careers of Newt Gingrich, Denny Hastert, Tom DeLay, Trent Lott, Bill Frist, George Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, and Condi Rice. Think about John McCain and Sarah Palin. None of them would be tempting figures for a Republican nominee to bring on as trusted advisors. None of these people would be welcomed back into public life. And, with the exception of John McCain, all of them have left public service.

    Frankly, I don’t know how Romney would go about staffing up his cabinet. There are no obvious candidates to be Secretary of State, for example. Maybe Dick Lugar could take the job. Or Jon Huntsman. But the cupboard is startlingly bare.

    I think, more than any other factor, this is why Romney is still likely to win the nomination. Even though no one really likes the guy and he’s a terrible fit for the Republican Party’s base, people can at least picture him doing the job.

    But just because it’s likely that he will win the nomination, that doesn’t mean he will. If he doesn’t, I don’t think any alternative will be able to convince the people that they, and their team, has what it takes to run the American Empire.


    • 101 Ladyhawke
      October 17, 2011 at 1:14 pm

      Thanks rikyrah, I was just about to post that link myself. There is also an interesting analysis about the Cain conundrum at Daily Beast.

      Romney’s Worst Nightmare

      How will Romney dispatch Cain? That’s rapidly becoming the most pressing—and trickiest—problem for the former Massachusetts governor, says Michael Tomasky.


    • 102 57andFemale
      October 17, 2011 at 2:10 pm

      I heard Jim Moore from TX on the Ed Schultz radio show last week. He still says not to count Perry out. Perry does not go away. He hangs on and hangs on and has a perseverence that is stunning. He still is closer to the Republican wet dream than Romney and could still be in the race. He brought up the fact that Perry is right where McCain was at this point.

      They’re all extremely dangerous and will completely ruin this country, hand us a no-chance Supreme Court for the next two generations. This election is perhaps the most important election in 75 years. We have to win. We just have to.

  40. October 17, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Poor Republicans. Poor Mitt Romney. Now their favorite pollster, Rasmussen has Cain beating Obama by 2 points. I swear, RAZ is such a lying ass organization. They only wish to push a meme not reality.

  41. October 17, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    I liked the name Vermin Cain; can’t remember who posted it here, but it suits the idiot.

  42. 107 dotster3
    October 17, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    President Obama is currently enjoying some N.Car. BBQ. Press pool reports bus has stopped at Countryside Barbecue in Marion, N.C. Hoping for some photos.

  43. 109 Ladyhawke
    October 17, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Media Matters documents the atrocities:



    Republicans spent their Sunday morning TV appearances blaming Democrats for the economy and trying to convince Wall Street protesters to join them in their scapegoating. Contrary to what Herman Cain and Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) claimed, the facts show that private firms, not government entities, inflated the subprime mortgage bubble, and Wall Street, not Democrats, turned those loans into an elaborate casino game that left the entire country on the hook for their bad bets. Similarly, Cantor and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) were wrong to suggest that Democratic policies on taxes and regulations are hurting the economy, and that Republican proposals will do more to create jobs than President Obama’s proposed American Jobs Act. In addition, Cain claimed that his “9-9-9” tax plan won’t hurt the poor and implied that Obama has cut defense spending, Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA) blamed the credit downgrade on the president, and Sen. McCain said that Obama never spoke up on behalf of Iranian protesters in 2009. In each case, the facts disagree.



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