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morning ;-)

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Today: 12:45 President Obama visits the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center

Tomorrow: The President visits Pittsburgh to promote the American Jobs Act before flying to Orlando for campaign events

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Steve Benen: In a speech on Friday, Republican presidential frontrunner Mitt Romney made an important vow: “As President …. I will reverse President Obama’s massive defense cuts. Time and again, we have seen that attempts to balance the budget by weakening our military only lead to a far higher price, not only in treasure, but in blood.”

…. Here are the Pentagon budgets over the last six years, with the red columns showing defense spending under Bush, and the blue columns showing defense spending under Obama:

I realize Romney can be a little slow on the uptake, but when the Pentagon gets more money – in some cases, even money it didn’t ask for – that’s not a “cut.” If Romney wants to be taken seriously on these issues, he should probably take the time to brush up on these pesky details.

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206 Responses to “morning ;-)”


  1. 1 Marlz (@marjgra)
    October 10, 2011 at 9:17 am

    What an A**!!

    • 2 Marlz (@marjgra)
      October 10, 2011 at 9:19 am

      Good Morning everyone . . . my apologies, but I could not help stating the obvious!! And I must be corrected. . . what an ELEPHANT!!!

      • 3 elo4obama/biden
        October 10, 2011 at 11:37 am

        Yeap, the elephants will never debate the issues with facts! Why is it that every time they open their mouths a lie spill out? Clearly logic and facts are not on their side. This type of political shennanigans weakens us as a country at a time when resources are limited, the world is more complex every day and the stakes are high with getting it right we need critical thinking. Let’s debate with the facts, not lies and warped opinions.

      • 4 jacquelineoboomer
        October 10, 2011 at 11:42 am

        I agree with either of your choice of words! Good morning!

    • 5 theo67
      October 10, 2011 at 11:49 am

      I can’t/won’t watch the video – I’ll take your (very appropriate) word for it. Anything from Romney’s mouth is usually a lie and/or offensive.

  2. October 10, 2011 at 9:33 am

    There are lies, vile lies and then are rethug campaigns. What a fucked up country,

  3. 9 Linda
    October 10, 2011 at 9:35 am

    How pathetic….standing in front of our military and lying about Defense cuts.

    I cannot even find a contact number or e-mail for Romney to voice my disgust..

  4. 10 Me4obama
    October 10, 2011 at 9:41 am

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/romney-a-flip-flop-used-to-be-more-liberal-than-ted-kennedy.html

    Best Romney article EVER written. This GUY will NEVER be President. NOT now NOT everrrrr. Good morning family.

    • 11 Me4obama
      October 10, 2011 at 9:50 am

      This Guy even flip flops on his names, the last paragrash left me shaken. What an idiot thinking he is entitled to be president.

    • 12 ChristiMtl
      October 10, 2011 at 10:24 am

      I think the most insulting thing he ever said was this:

      “It’s not those at the low end and it’s certainly not for those at the very high end. It’s for the great middle-class, the 80 to 90 percent of us in this country.”

      When you’re worth at least 250 millions
      You are NOT middle class.

      Thanks for the link M4O

      He’s such a liar,.

  5. 13 PoliticalJunkessa
    October 10, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Good morning, Chips! Good morning, TOD Family!

    Yes, Willard is a sick puppy without morals, principles, or a center. He can’t help himself.

    Have a wonderful day! 😛 !!!

  6. 14 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    October 10, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Chips why am I not able to post? Have you disabled me for some reason?

  7. 17 utaustinliberal
    October 10, 2011 at 9:45 am

    Romney is a total and complete idiot. And to think he studied business and finance. 🙄

    • October 10, 2011 at 11:58 am

      WILLARD IS A REAL PHONEY…HE FEELS HE IS ENTITLED TO BE IN THE WHITEHOUSE….I SEE RIGHT THRU HIS FAKENESS…HE WANTS SO MUCH TO BE LIKE PRESIDENT OBAMA….HE WILL NEVER ,EVER HAVE WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS…DONALD TRUMP ALSO SUFFERS FROM THE SAME DISEASE AS WILLARD…YOU SEE ,ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD CANT BUY YOU WHAT #44 HAS….WHATTHIS PRESIDENT HAS COMES NATURAL….AND ITS REAL …HE WAS BORN WITH IT….YEAH,HE IS THE SH#T!!!!

  8. October 10, 2011 at 9:49 am

    If the rethugs and the neocons think that they can start another with Iran, rest of the world,except israel, will raise such a stink that the america will be become a pariah, ‘rogue’ state. And where the fuck are they going to find the boots on the ground (with all the gutting done under dubya) and the money to finance it ?

    • 20 desertflower
      October 10, 2011 at 10:12 am

      amk…you know they don’t need money to finance their wars! They put them on the credit cards and leave them out of the budget!!

  9. October 10, 2011 at 9:49 am

    Good morning all, beware of the Mitt and his team for military issues because they are the same people who led us to war in IRAQ…

    I also want to say that we are eating on our own regarding Van Jones. Van Jones has the President’s back period end of story. President Barack Obama was asked in an interview if he had any regrets and he said he had wished he had explained the purpose of the Heathcare Act to Americans in more detail. If Our President can point out something he wished he had done we need to allow others to have room to point out the same things the President pointed out.

    I personally follow the President on WH.gov, C-SPAN, The Obama Diary, etc… but 60% of Americans don’t so they really didn’t understand why this piece of legislation was so important and Dodd-Frank, or the Consumer Protection Agency, etc…

    • October 10, 2011 at 10:13 am

      Okay but what does that have to do with what Van Jones said? In the other thread people had a problem with Van saying that he got the sense that the WH just told progressives to just go sit down and be quiet. Well, at least I know I had a problem with that statement. Then there was someone else who called out Van Jones for saying that Veterans were coming back from war and not getting any help. That is indeed a false statement. both FLOTUS and POTUS have made Veterans a focus since the day they took office.

      No disrespect whatsoever but if its OK for Van Jones to criticize or disagree with the Pres. It is also fair and OK that we criticize and disagree with Van Jones.

      • October 10, 2011 at 10:34 am

        Do you think Van Jones comment about the Veterans not getting help would have been directed at the GOP who control the House since this is the branch that controls the money/budget… If the Veterans were getting the support they deserved and earned the President would not have had to place it in the AJA…..

        George Clooney said we eat our own which is true.. Van Jones is down with the President period end of story and he worked in the WH until the right wing media went on a tear against him for days and weeks and now IMO we are doing the same thing…

        • October 10, 2011 at 10:57 am

          If he meant Repubs then he should say so. but even with the Repubs controlling the House, Pres. Obama has in fact passed legislation and put in programs aimed directly at helping Veterans. More so than any other president. Van Jones can do his thing w/o hyperbole and distortion. I hate it when people do that no matter who they are. And I’m sorry, what the right wing media did to Jones is no where near what has been said on this blog or tweeted to Van Jones. Not. even. close.

      • 26 ChristiMtl
        October 10, 2011 at 10:38 am

        I agree with you gobrooklyn. I wasn’t too pleased with what he said.

        Both statements were false. He can criticize all he wants if its that’s what he wants to do….but why lie? I don’t get it.

        I usually like Van Jones, I don’t know why he said that,.

      • October 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm

        Notice the date…and then read the article in its entirety to get an idea of just how much thought and effort has gone into providing assistance to those who serve in the military. It should also put to rest any “claims” about this administration’s lack of concern and/or actions regarding those who are serving. How hard can it be for people who make these type of assertions to actually engage in research to find out what has or hasn’t been accomplished?!!

        For Immediate Release
        January 24, 2011
        Remarks by the President, Mrs. Obama and Dr. Biden on the Presidential Studies Directive: Strengthening Our Military Families

        As Commander-in-Chief, I am determined to do everything in my power to make sure that we are fulfilling that request from our troops, that we are taking care of their families. And that’s why, over the past two years, we’ve made major investments: more military housing, more childcare, new schools for our military kids; more counseling and career support for spouses; more help for those tireless caregivers; dramatic increases in veterans health care, and helping hundreds of thousands of veterans and family members pursue their education through the Post-9/11 GI Bill.

        And that’s why I ordered this government-wide effort, a Presidential Study Directive, to bring together the resources of the federal government for this mission. Now, for those of you who aren’t familiar with these presidential directives, these are reserved for some of our most important and complex national security challenges. I think Mike Mullen will share with you, since becoming President I’ve only ordered about a dozen, including this one, which we believe is the first one ever on behalf of military families.

        And today, I’m proud to announce that for the first time ever, supporting the well-being of our military families will be a priority not just for the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs, but all across the federal government. That’s why all these Cabinet folks are here today. Sixteen members of my Cabinet have committed their departments and agencies to making military families one of their highest priorities.

        We’re focusing on four areas —- the things you said matter most to you, whether you’re Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine or Coast Guard — active Guard or Reserve, a veteran or a member of a family of the fallen. We didn’t wait for today to launch these efforts. Many of these efforts have already been underway. And that includes innovative new partnerships so that, in tough fiscal times, our government is more efficient and serves you better.

        ~snip~

        http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/01/24/remarks-president-mrs-obama-and-dr-biden-presidential-studies-directive-

    • 28 Debz
      October 10, 2011 at 10:31 am

      If it is alright for Van Jones to criticize the President (for something PBO never did) then it is alright for us to criticize Jones. The whole purpose of PBO’s campaign was to get people to take control, not wait for him. He said quite clearly that he couldn’t do it alone. He tried to get them out to vote in 2010 and no one listened.

      As for Romney he is a slimy POS with no core beliefs or morals. What a disturbing creature.

    • 36 vero804
      October 10, 2011 at 1:51 pm

      I understand what you’re saying Michele…

  10. 37 bonkers
    October 10, 2011 at 9:52 am

    And on to the next stage of the “Occupy Wall Street” Repub pys-ops campaign, courtesy of ABC “News”…

    The “news” headlines in my email service this morning has this:

    “Occupation can lead to ownership, whether or not you want it.”
    http://news.yahoo.com/democrats-seek-own-occupy-wall-street-movement-222048239.html

    Whole article is saying that the OWS mess is the Democrats version of Teebaggerizm, and how Democrats own OWS whether they want it or not. Of course, obligatory photo then of young males yelling and bandanas covering their faces as they seem to charge police. Yea, that’s what Democrats and thereby President Obama “own.”

    Watch for more violence and vandalism now…right on cue. It’s all so predictable…

    • 38 hopefruit2
      October 10, 2011 at 10:10 am

      Well the media needs to get it’s story straight. On one hand, the protests are against Obama because he hasn’t ended the wars and has not prosecuted the Wall Street Criminals. On the other hand, the violent protests are being led by Obama and the Dems?

      Which one is it?

      • October 10, 2011 at 10:24 am

        the fifth columnist media’s only story is to link everything to Obama. turning on a dime not a big issue at all to these mofos.

        • 40 hopefruit2
          October 10, 2011 at 10:31 am

          The media is so obsessed with Obama right now that a GOP primary is about to take place in New Hampshire in 3 months – yet only 11% of Republican voters have settled on a candidate, and less than 40% of the public can actually name a single GOP candidate!!!

    • October 10, 2011 at 10:13 am

      Randi Rhodes summarized the OWS this way, which is so wonderful

      First- They ignore you. (media)
      Second- They make fun of you. (media)
      Third- They blame you. (media)
      Fourth- And then you win.

    • 47 prettyfoot58
      October 10, 2011 at 10:20 am

      Good Morning everyone…

      hearing that they dissed Rep Lewis…told me all i needed to know about this so-called movement

      • 48 bonkers
        October 10, 2011 at 10:27 am

        See, they love the Lewis snub too, since now the MegaMedia is making up that Democrats “own” the Occupy mess, they can start up their “Democrats in disarray” theme. One of their favorites!

      • 49 Jennifer
        October 10, 2011 at 10:37 am

        This is the one that got me. Of all people to refuse to let speak! It happened in Atlanta. Chilling video. I’ll try to find it.

  11. 51 Ladyhawke
    October 10, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Is Romney the Next Kerry?

    His list of policy reversals makes John Kerry look like an exemplar of political consistency.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/09/romney-a-flip-flop-used-to-be-more-liberal-than-ted-kennedy.html

  12. 52 GOVCHRIS1988
    October 10, 2011 at 10:13 am

    My God. He’s such a Republican. Well, Romney too, but I’m talking about Hank Williams Jr.

    http://www.accessatlanta.com/atlanta-music/hank-jr-writes-song-1197676.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm

    He can’t blame himself, has to blame others for his actions. Typical teabag Republican.

    • 53 theo67
      October 10, 2011 at 11:56 am

      I’ve already forgotten about Hank Williams Jr. I’m sure we’ll be seeing him pop up during the campaign, a la “Joe the Plumber”, to spread the GOP distinctive brand of hate for his mistreatment. In the meantime, he should keep quiet.

  13. 56 globalcitizenlinda
    October 10, 2011 at 10:17 am

    I believe that some because fellow elected officials may find it hard to call out bluntly that an opponent is lying, there is no reason why we ordinary do not loudly call out liars. what would happen if instead of saying so and so is misleading, we come right out and say that so and so is lying. I suspect the kind of lies we heard here will continue to be part of the character of the GOP strategy

    • 57 bonkers
      October 10, 2011 at 10:42 am

      Well, “the media” isn’t afraid to claim that President Obama is lying. I also had an Associated Press “Spin Meter” in my morning email box saying that President Obama is “disconnected from reality.” One of the points they use to justify that is that he’s saying Repubs are stopping the Jobs Bill, and according to the AP, President Obama is lying since he doesn’t at the same time mention some Democrats MIGHT block it as well. Seriously.

      And Romnutz and any Repub can constantly, literally CONSTANTLY lie about every single gaddamn issue, easily proven, and the AP and rest of the MegaMedia says, “move along, nothing to see here…”

      I ignore the MegaMedia is general, so it’s annoying to have their lies pumped into my email box…might have to find another email provider.

  14. 59 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    October 10, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Romney will win the GOP nomination. As we all know I have predicted this since last spring. Time to strap up the boots. We have to wade through Mitts parade of LIES, policy, and agenda reversals. Obama/Biden 2012!!

    • 60 utaustinliberal
      October 10, 2011 at 4:46 pm

      Keith; everyone predicted Romney would most likely be the nominee. That’s the way the republican primaries work. They always give the nomination to the most senior person who is next in line. So it will be no big surprise to anyone if Romney clinches the nomination.

  15. 61 bonkers
    October 10, 2011 at 10:22 am

    I remember reports a while back how much VA and military family benefits have increased massively since we’ve had President Obama. He also led that program for extra compensation for families dealing with 3 or more tours of duty.

    Shrub and the Repubs had cut those things substantially. Remember the reports, late into Shrub’s and Repubs reign, of Walter Reed Hospital having rat problems and rotted ceiling tiles falling down?

    Every fact shows that President Obama and Democrats truly support the troops, while Repubs do not. It’s just a simple fact. When Mittmo Romnutz and the MegaMedia say otherwise, it’s just a flat out lie.

    Democrats 2012!

    • October 10, 2011 at 10:31 am

      I got this info on progress for vets from http://obamaachievements.org/list:

      BROAD POLICY:
      Initiated a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses.
      Improved benefits for veterans.
      Interagency Task Force on Veterans Small Business Development .
      Worked to clear the backlog of veterans claims and streamline benefits to those who served.

      FUNDING:
      Provided for the expenses of families of to be at Dover AFB when fallen soldiers arrive.
      Donated 250K of Nobel prize money to Fisher House.
      Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act of 2009.
      Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2009.

      TARGETED ACTIONS:
      Medal of Honor Commemorative Coin Act of 2009.
      Promoted a bill to award a Congressional Gold Medal to the Women Airforce Service Pilots (“WASP”).
      Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information.
      Military Spouses Residency Relief Act.
      Improved basic housing allowance for military personnel.
      Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010.
      Provided minimum essential health care coverage by Veteran’s Affairs.
      Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans.
      Korean War Veterans Recognition Act.
      Blinded Veterans Association.
      Major Charles R. Soltes, Jr., O.D. Department of Veterans Affairs Blind Rehabilitation Center.
      Improved access for Veterans to receive PTSD treatment.
      Green Vet Initiative to promote environmental jobs for veterans.

  16. October 10, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Once we know the GOP nominee, EVERYTHING shifts. The onslaught from Koch-funded PACS will be massive, but I believe we will rally our troops magnificently. We will see a nasty campaign, but PBO will keep his principles in tact and he will take the high road, making the case based on fact and progress to date. I’m proud of that and support his campaign 1000%. Boots on the ground, hand-to-hand campaigning, data crunching framework. It will not be pretty but we will win. The GOP has NOTHING to offer this nation. That much is crystal clear.

    • 66 hopefruit2
      October 10, 2011 at 10:36 am

      You’re absolutely right meta. They have NOTHING to offer, and as much as the GOPMEDIA tries to hide that fact, we KNOW that there is a serious enthusiasm gap with their current field of crappy candidates. Only 11% of New Hampshire Repub voters have settled on a candidate, just 3 months before the NH primary. That signifies a HUGE amount of uncertainty and lack of excitement among voters. Michele Bachmann held a town hall there yesterday and I’ve seen more folks at my family gatherings!! Yet she was THE candidate just two months ago, according to the media (and that includes the so-called liberal media like Tweety and his arrogant sidekick, Fineman).

      • October 10, 2011 at 10:50 am

        You’re so right about all that. The MSM has tried and tried their very best to pump up enthusiasm for each one of these sad clowns but the truth is, they are lackluster and pure idiocy at best. I think our main target will be combatting racism.

        • 68 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          October 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm

          Meta and hopefruit you are so spot on. RACISM will be the only thing that can keep PBO from his second term. When the TEATHUG and DEMOCRATIC platforms/agenda is laid out for the voting public next year their will be stark difference in what the American people want and what the GOP want. The choice will be crystal clear and it will be up to us to make sure voters know this choice. PBO and the Dems are on the winning side of all the issues foreign and domestic. Obama/Biden 2012!!

    • October 10, 2011 at 2:11 pm

      That’s why PBO has always said, when they choose their nominee, we’ll be ready. Right now a lot of people are confused. All sorts of names are floated on the R side that people never heard of. Republican activists and the media stooges have been sampling the appetizer tray, trying this or that brand of crazy. But when the vast public comes awake and steps in for the main course, be it Romney or Perry–they’re going to recoil in horror at the lousy meal. There isn’t a single one of these R candidates who makes sense on a consistent basis, who isn’t burdened by negative charisma, or who has one iota of the president’s eloquence, appeal and overall sense of zest and life. At least McCain had some vestige of a “war hero” aura that he carried about him and had had a moment in his legislative career when he occasionally made sense. But these guys are just losers on every front.

  17. October 10, 2011 at 10:44 am

    hank frigging williams now sings a different tune – pox news distorted what said. O’rly ?

    Sorry for the poltico linky

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1011/unbowed_hank_for_prez_9c1e07e8-d6e1-4976-80d0-b76b457e71b4.html

    Most telling is the ending.

    “The ESPN flap created an unusual coalition of supporters for Williams, including Jon Stewart, Sarah Palin, Goldberg and Behar, and Rush Limbaugh.”

    congrats stewart and behar for finding a common cause with racist pigs.

  18. 71 dotster3
    October 10, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Thought this was interestng and on target, “Congressional dysfunction begins to spook old pros”, think this is what has pushed many out onto the streets:
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/congressional-dysfunction-begins-to-spook-old-pros.php?ref=fpa

  19. 72 walter jackson
    October 10, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Being a veteran, I look at the faces of the men behind romney and don’t see anyone smileing like they would if president Obama was giving the speech.

    • October 10, 2011 at 10:54 am

      Yes, I saw that too. They looked like that they hated being there.

    • 74 Debz
      October 10, 2011 at 11:00 am

      Those were students at the Citidel used for a backdrop that is probably why they were not smiling. I read that current military personal were told not to wear their uniforms since this was a political function. Romney, like W had to have someone in “military uniforms” to show his gravitas.

      • 75 hopefruit2
        October 10, 2011 at 11:14 am

        okay – makes sense.

        Jon Huntsman is going to give a “major foreign policy address” today in New Hampshire. Hmmmm…..

      • 78 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        October 10, 2011 at 12:07 pm

        Absolutely disgusting. I feel bad for those in attendance and behind Romney. They have to know what all the Obamas and Bidens have done for military personnel and their families. Simply DISGUSTING……..

  20. 82 collegekay
    October 10, 2011 at 10:58 am

    I’m not down with this OWS. I’m furious at what they did to Rep. Lewis.

  21. 84 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    October 10, 2011 at 11:03 am

    GOOD MORNING EVERYONE…MITTENS JUST LUVS TO WASTE HIS TIME..RUNNING AND RERUNNING! BOOMERANG ROMNEY WILL NEVER DEFEAT PBO! HE MUST BE A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT!

    • 85 PoliticalJunkessa
      October 10, 2011 at 11:06 am

      😆 You have a way with words, Sue! “Boomerang Romney” 😆 Mittens has been running for my entire adult life.

  22. October 10, 2011 at 11:04 am

    I don’t know about being President but I tell you one thing. Mitt has a great future doing used car commercials at 3:00am.

  23. 88 PoliticalJunkessa
    October 10, 2011 at 11:04 am

    I’d love to hear from John Lewis himself. From many accounts, he was cool with the protocol of everyone having to wait their turn to speak, but he just didn’t have the time. He said it reminded him of his organizing days when they used to do the same thing to people who wanted to address their group. But I’d really like to hear an interview with him about it. I’ve heard people saying he was booed at the event, but that was not true.

    Sometimes I think we’re more offended on behalf of people who really are not offended. A lot of these politicians, including the President and John Lewis, have much thicker skin than we think they have and know how to roll with the punches (and thrown punches of their own).

    • October 10, 2011 at 11:22 am

      I don’t know about the booing, I have heard that he was shouted down. However, I did see the video- via a link on twitter- where Rep Lewis spoke to the media.. and he was allll class. He said he wasn’t bothered by not being able to speak.. he understood and just wanted to show support. He showed no hurt or upset at all, he was very genuine.

      Now having said that.. I’m still disturbed by him not being able to speak, I AM bothered by it.. I am not as good a soul as John Lewis, and I think it reflects very poorly on those folks in Occupying Atlanta.. and I don’t think much of them for it.

      • October 10, 2011 at 11:37 am

        That’s how I feel as well. He took the high road but honestly, for that group to choose not hear his voice was a major show of disrespect. I don’t care how much they want to promote egalitarian and democratic principles. For me, it was just wrong -> form over substance.

        • 91 prettyfoot58
          October 10, 2011 at 11:55 am

          That’s how I feel as well. He took the high road but honestly, for that group to choose not hear his voice was a major show of disrespect. I don’t care how much they want to promote egalitarian and democratic principles. For me, it was just wrong -> form over substance.

          COULD NOT AGREE MORE….

          • 92 hopefruit2
            October 10, 2011 at 12:04 pm

            Especially since charlatans like Cornel West and Michael Moore were treated with utmost respect and adulation in the OWS in NYC….

      • 93 PoliticalJunkessa
        October 10, 2011 at 1:12 pm

        I agree — John Lewis is and was and will always be, all class. Hope he gets an opportunity to speak at a later date!

    • 94 Walking_on_ Sunshine
      October 10, 2011 at 9:05 pm

      http://podcasts.cnn.net/cnn/services/podcasting/audio/interviews/cnninterviewsa1009.mp3 I’m late to the party PoliticalJunkessa, but in case you do check back here and you haven’t heard it yet. Here is a link to the interview with John Lewis himself talking about the incident.

  24. 95 Fred
    October 10, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I could swear The Stimulus was under Bush Haselbitch! Can someone PLEASE send her facts and blast her?

    good morning TOD family

    • 96 hopefruit2
      October 10, 2011 at 11:13 am

      Which stimulus are you referring to? The American Recovery Act (AARA) was proposed and implemented by the Obama administration.

      The TARP (bank bailout) was initiated by the Bush administration, voted on in congress and subsequently implemented during the Obama adminstration.

    • 98 JoJothecat
      October 10, 2011 at 11:24 am

      Fred,

      Haselbitch is right, GWB did a stimulus…..FOR THE RICH. The rest of us got $300 or as much as $1600 for people with families and seniors got $250 twice. I think twice during his whole eight years.

  25. October 10, 2011 at 11:10 am

    via BJ’s cole the multiple choice mitt (the answer is always the same)

    http://www.whichmitt.com/which-mitt

  26. 100 dotster3
    October 10, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Speaking of Republican talking points memos, horrible, shreiky Elizabeth on The View was actually reading from hers on today’s show, saying Obama and his administration are Wall Street, and this is what the protesters are protesting. Trying to turn it into an anti-Obama movement. And they just promoted an upcoming appearance by Hank Williams Jr. to explain his deep anti-Obama thoughts. Just what the world needs.
    And I would like some pushback on this anti-Obama slanted story in the Orlando Sentinel re. Obama’s appearance there this week. It’s all about pushing the “disappointed” and “disillusioned” Obama supporters again, plucking selective quotes to prove their point. It’s not till the very end do we get to some reality: “Meanwhile, members of Obama’s team in Florida disputed the notion of an enthusiasm gap. More than 5000 volunteers are active in Florida, organizers noted, and the campaign has already opened 5 offices from Jacksonville to Miami. “If you walk into any of our offices any day, you’ll see why I don’t see an enthusiasm gap”, said Ashley Walker, state director of OFA. “They are bustling with supporters.”
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/os-obama-orlando-visit-20111009,0,6237515.story

    • 101 Fred
      October 10, 2011 at 11:30 am

      so glad Dots that I wasn’t the only one watching that crap and thinking that I was crazy.The nerve of Hasselbeck.Cannot believe how many lies she gets away with on a daily effing basis with no darn push back and no correction.I know Bill Getty is another Rethug but give me a break! 🙄

      • 102 theo67
        October 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm

        That’s because Barbara is a right winger. Hasselback will always get away with her nonsense. I don’t watch it.

      • 103 Debz
        October 10, 2011 at 12:14 pm

        What ever happened to the view? In the past, they would never bring on all these RW idiots. I guess that’s why I haven’t watched it in years!
        As for the Orlando Sentinel and other media outlets, as the election gets closer it is going to be much harder to claim “disappointment” of the President. Already they try to ignore the large number of people who have shown up for PBO’s jobs speeches. The lies can not last. No one is that stupid to believe the msm istead of their own eyes.

    • 104 donna dem 4 obama
      October 10, 2011 at 11:30 am

      What is the Democratic Strategy to push back on this stuff? He cannot do this alone. LHM!

    • 105 Mae who love our CIC
      October 10, 2011 at 12:15 pm

      Frankly it is a little too early to be talking about enthusiasm for President Obama, especially if you are to believe slanted polls. All of these polls this far out are design to work on your psyche and they are trying to set the public up to manipulate the voting. Don’t buy into the shiggedy. What we need is faith and our continual work toward the re-election of President Obama.
      You know when a person’s personal life is not very positive it is a little hard to garner good vibes about much of anything. I even notice it in church. Folk are not 100% all the time.
      I know first hand that the Orlando OFA office is bustling with activity. I will be attending the fund raiser at the Sheraton on tomorrow and if I get close enough in ear shot of our President, I will tell him that the Obama Diary says hello. Also John Morgan stated in this article that they are expecting 200 plus big money supporters; $1500- $35,800 a piece. The goal was to raise a half million dollars and they will certainly exceed this goal.
      The Republicans already know that they will not win the general election. Now they are focusing on the HoR and the Senate races. They will not succeed there either.
      PRESS ON! and we will.

    • October 10, 2011 at 1:09 pm

      Hi dotster3,

      Did you report this (attack/smear/rumor), here:

      http://www.attackwatch.com/

      And, it’s on Twitter… @attackwatch.

      By the way, this site is located on TOD’s sidebar! 😉

      YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!
      PRESS ON!

  27. October 10, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Goood morning out there. Lively conversation yesterday, eh? i look forward to more of the same today. Chips, as usual, you’re layin’ on full. Don’t let up. i’ll be gone most of the day, damn eye Dr. and some such thing called dilation. Won’t be able to see shit for a few miniutes.
    Just remember as Mitt would say, “You’re never too old to learn something stupid.”

  28. 110 donna dem 4 obama
    October 10, 2011 at 11:22 am

    So let’s say I do win the Fundraising Contest…Just for Fun What would you ask the President?

    I’m leaning toward strategy. Honestly after reading some of the comments and links the last two days I sure would like to see a Democratic Strategist work with members of Congress to get them to do exactly what George Clooney suggested in that last thread. Every time these people go before the public whether on camera or in print even if they are talking about something positive the story always gets steered toward saying something negative about the President or his policies. Keith Ellison did it yesterday and now I’m reading that Van Jones did it and we see it here in video after video or article after article. How can they all be so stupid? Even the interview with George Clooney the person giving the interview was baiting George to say something negative (fortunately he didn’t take the bait).

    This is all so obvious to me why can’t Dems see this? The media wants the Political Soap Opera…Can The Dems Please Stop Giving Them One!

    • 111 JoJothecat
      October 10, 2011 at 11:33 am

      I don’t know how much time you will have with him, but I would definately tell him that he HAS NOT lost his base, that the people LOVE both him and Michelle and if he ever has some down time, come to TOD and read some of our postings if he needs to be cheered up.

    • 112 Elle
      October 10, 2011 at 11:35 am

      My question would be about voter suppression. Can anything be done about GOP states that are passing laws that disenfranchise voters?

      I’m with you Donna, Dems in the media should stay positive. There is so much to be positive about, why can’t they talk about that? Don’t they understand that anything negative that they say will become the story, that the media is only interested in negatives, so the best thing to do is don’t give them ANYTHING that can be spun negatively. Leave that to the opposition.

    • October 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm

      A lot of what you mention struck me as being more reasonably directed toward Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She’s the chair of the party and is in charge of messaging. The President can’t get involved in grappling with the PL. He’s frustrated with them and has called them out publicly more than once. What else can he do? Honestly, the general public doesn’t hear what people like Van Jones say anyway. Only 20% of people are even paying attention to politics right now. But the message of the Jobs Bill is resonating with the public. I think he’s doing a brilliant job, even more so since the better he does his job, the louder the PL whine.

      • October 10, 2011 at 12:34 pm

        I’m with you, Tien. People don’t know who people like Van Jones are. They don’t obsess over every little thing that politicos say on radio or tv. People respond to the president’s jobs message–it’s short and sweet. And nobody on this planet delivers a message better than PBO. Dems are always their worst enemies, but we’ve overcome this before and we will again.

    • October 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm

      The issue has always been messaging. While there is much improvement the way the Whitehouse is handling the jobs bill, getting the Dems behind the message is definitely lacking and should be number one. # 2 for me is fix OFA! (although Chips has more than made up for it)

  29. 116 donna dem 4 obama
    October 10, 2011 at 11:26 am

    So the DCCC is now decided to take a stand with the OWS. Interesting…

    http://www.dccc.org/pages/occupy

    • October 10, 2011 at 11:34 am

      thanks for posting that donna, I received their email today.. I’m not going to sign their petition at this point, but I do think I’ll write to them and tell them why- what my concerns are. Now having said that, I do think this may not be so bad.. Congressional dems supporting them.. its very possible their goal is to coopt what they can here and motivate dems all over to our side.. so though I’m still in wait and see mode on this whole thing- because of all we’ve been learning here about ‘occupy wall street’… I’m still trying to have an open mind as to Nancy Pelosi’s/ dems intentions.

    • October 10, 2011 at 12:40 pm

      I would have preferred a generic show of support via a statement to the press. I don’t know about this full on support. Maybe, just maybe they noticed that there may be a lot of Pres. Obama supporters involved and want to steer them towards the party instead of having OWS steer supporters into the wilderness or to a third party. Just guessing.

    • 119 a4alice
      October 10, 2011 at 2:52 pm

      really? after slogging through everything over the past two days now my head IS going to explode. So that tells me that they are not concerned about how OWS originated? Or maybe is it that they are trying to harness the movement?…..I’m going to have to go read that article again that bonkers or ut had recommended yesterday. I know. wah wah wah.

      So Donna. I liked what George Clooney said too. (But preferrably in a tux…..with the top button undone and a loose bow tie…..) WHOOPS anyhoo if there was a way to have the dems all be together on a positive message that would be great. ‘democrats eat their own’ was what he said. i can’t disagree on that.

  30. 120 Tracy
    October 10, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Cokie Roberts on NPR Morning Edition continues to push GOP talking points, saying voters disenchanted with President Obama because he’s too “gloomy” (Carter meme). Don’t think she’s ever bothered to listen to any of his speeches which always conclude with a testament to the American spirit and ability to meet great challenges in contrast to the smallness of the GOP vision. I tweets her and NPR fail.

    • 121 JoJothecat
      October 10, 2011 at 11:30 am

      Kochie Roberts is just another GOP tool! She hated Bill Clinton with a vengence so I guess she’s working up her hate for PBO by saying he’s gloomy….what the F was Bush? He brought us eight years of death.

      • 122 Fred
        October 10, 2011 at 11:35 am

        right name for her Jojo and damn right on everything you posted

      • 123 isonprize
        October 10, 2011 at 11:36 am

        “Kochie” Roberts. I see what you did there, JoJo… 😆 😆

      • 124 globalcitizenlinda
        October 10, 2011 at 11:38 am

        Every time I hear cokie roberts talking about President Obama, it is always negative and very condescending as if she is smarter than he is. She is one of those career pundits who looks down on anyone trying to change politics

    • 125 globalcitizenlinda
      October 10, 2011 at 11:35 am

      we have a lot of work to do. How do we contact the ever-snickering cokie roberts

    • October 10, 2011 at 11:39 am

      Heh.. gloomy? POTUS? thats just pure malarky- another “emporer has no clothes’ moment brought to us by the Republican media 😉 Cokie wants gloomy- thats all her repub candidates push.. omg the sky is falling/Obama is killing/ruining/apologizing/scamming/ all of America.. be afraid.. and then we have President Barack Obama: HOPE/Jobs/Bright Future/Together/Perfect our Union/Unite ~

      PS I do believe it was good old tired Cokie who pushed the meme that “Obama is EXOTIC” ’cause you know.. he comes from H a w a i i and made a nasty deal about he and his family vacationing there. She’s a skank.

      • 127 bonkers
        October 10, 2011 at 12:17 pm

        One of those times Kochie was allowed to rip on Stanley Ann’s son was when he saw his grandma for possibly the last time where she could talk before she passed away:

        http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200808100001

        Nobody in the MegaMedia criticized Kochie whatsoever for her incredibly callous and plain stupid remarks. If you read the transcript from this link, now after a couple years pass, it’s just shocking to see how stupid people like her and George Will truly are.

        Yet, they are allowed to spread their made-up nonsense designed to favor Repubs day after day, year after year, and now decade after decade. Why? Is there some giant undercurrent of Kochie Roberts support in America? Are there fan sites for Mark Halperin? Of course not. If she or Halperin or about 98% of the TV voices who greatly influence are national discourse were fired, hardly anyone would notice. It would not hurt ratings at all if Kochie Roberts was fired for instance, and in fact would probably help. But they stay there as long as they want, since the few billionaires that own the entire MegaMedia know that won’t rock the boat. Kochie is a good little soldier with her subversive “Repubs=good, Democrats=bad” talking…100% of the time.

        • October 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm

          I can’t add a thing Bonkers- you said it right, imo 😉

        • October 10, 2011 at 12:29 pm

          Roberts is a tired, worn-out, long-passed due-date big mouth who stopped making sense so many years ago she can’t remember what sense sounds like. She coasted on her parents coattails because they were big figures in the Democratic party, but she herself has zero integrity. I tweeted her once and said It was sad that she had fallen so far from the tree. I don’t think she influences any national discourse. Her manner is irritating, her words senseless and her attitude arrogant. A loser all around.

        • 130 theo67
          October 10, 2011 at 12:47 pm

          The comments on this old article are hilarious! Funny how different the comments sections were only three short years ago – I was actually laughing out loud reading those. Kockie – or whatever her name is – she has obviously been in a state over President Obama’s existence for years, now. When I heard her on NPR spouting her lies, I was reminded of her douche-baggery. Entertaining, if nothing else.

    • 131 COS
      October 10, 2011 at 12:08 pm

      This is the same woman that said PBO was elitist because he and his family vacationed in Hawaii.

    • 134 theo67
      October 10, 2011 at 12:11 pm

      She did this last week, too, saying the OWS movement was anti-Obama and showed he had completely lost his base. She’s a rabid right winger – don’t pay attention to her.

  31. 135 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2011 at 11:51 am

    No wonder 50% of the public cannot even name a damn GOP candidate 3 months before the first GOP primary – because the media is so unhealthily and obsessively focused on trying to take down President Obama, by braying nonstop about his so-called “disappointed base” and he’s “losing blacks, Jews, Hispanics, LGBT, Unions, Youth, ”

    Their Sunday shows are taken up with Repubs and pathetic Democrats bashing the President. Their WH Press conferences are filled with stupid questions about dredged up fake scandals and gossip mongering drivel. Their day time news “reports” contain nothing but cooked-up polls with their overpaid, fake-ass pundiots running their mouths about the President “tanking in the polls” and “in trouble” with voters, etc. ”

    When are they going to start reporting events and stop telling stories. We left Kindergarten a long time ago – we don’t need stories. We need accurate accounting of the goings-on in this country and around the world to make informed decisions about who is the best candidate to lead this nation come November 2012.

    • 136 edp4bho
      October 10, 2011 at 1:57 pm

      “No wonder 50% of the public cannot even name a damn GOP candidate 3 months before the first GOP primary”.

      ……..yep, because what they have is a big pot of nothingness, so it’s best to focus on tearing down the enlightened candidate, that being our illustrious President. Else, what the hell would they have to talk about?

  32. 137 bonkers
    October 10, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Uugghh. The Occupy Wall Street mess is becoming “mission accomplished” for Repub/Koch/Rove. The word has gone out to MegaMedia stooges to tie OWS to Democrats and President Obama especially, as some of the above comments show.

    Just imagine if this same amount of energy went to the President’s “Pass This Bill” effort. Think about the timing.

    Instead we have a convoluted mess (just think about how much energy is wasted in comments sections alone) that will be easy to discredit with the first bit of violence or vandalism (which the Repub operatives will instigate), and the MegaMedia liars will tar President Obama with it. That’s their plan at least…I suspect Stanley Ann’s son has a plan to avoid that or minimize the impact.

    The President and Democrats have a very FOCUSED and political-winning message in “Pass This Bill.” Let’s work to make sure this OWS distraction doesn’t derail Pass This Bill!

    • 138 prettyfoot58
      October 10, 2011 at 11:59 am

      The President and Democrats have a very FOCUSED and political-winning message in “Pass This Bill.” Let’s work to make sure this OWS distraction doesn’t derail Pass This Bill!

      RIGHT ONNNNNNNNNN

      • 139 Debz
        October 10, 2011 at 12:21 pm

        The President has a very strong message and I doubt the OWS will distract any one from the AJA. Since there is no coherent message from OWS, most people will just think they are a bunch of loons. I am looking forward to Rev Al’s jobs march which will mean so much more.

    • October 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm

      Hey bonkers,

      Cheer up! 🙂

      Jonathan Alter’s “take” on it:

      OCCUPY WALL STREET SHOULD SCARE REPUBLICANS… http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2011/10/occupy_wall_street_should_scar032686.php#

      YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!
      PRESS ON!

      • 141 bonkers
        October 10, 2011 at 3:09 pm

        Uh, that article was supposed to make me feel better about OWS? Alter just peddled a whole bunch of the usual false storylines.

        He calls OWS the Democrats Teebaggerz. He says the OWS folks might not support President Obama. Yadda yadda yadda…

        No talk though of my main point, which is…Timing. Why Now?!? No talk about that from Alter or any other MegaMedia outlet.

        OWS is hurting two major things they should be working to support AT THIS VERY MOMENT: 1. Pass This Bill. 2. Getting Rob Corddry approved so he start making Consumer Protection Bureau really effective, which is what Elizabeth Warren wants.

        Two major, tangible things those OWS people have had placed right before them by the most Liberal President in generations, that would go a long way to helping with issues they supposedly care about. Instead, they’re sucking up all the energy and airtime that could be used for those two great causes with a confusing mess of what exactly?

        I have not seen one second of video showing them chanting “Pass This Bill.” I have not seen one interview of someone talking about the Consumer Protection Bureau. But I have seen tons of stuff about how “they all suck” in Washington, and more and more of the “primary Obama” crowd bubbling up. How is this helpful in anyway to what President Obama and his supporters are trying to accomplish?

    • 142 edp4bho
      October 10, 2011 at 2:02 pm

      I still say we should be out there, boots on the ground, like the group in Harlem, for PBO (I can’t bring myself to echo what they chose to call themselves, unfortunately). Like those OWS, where are our marches and protests? They have filled a void, though not in a way to benefit a positive agenda, atleast not as far as we can discern. We have OFA- great and so grateful for us, but we are not getting the public’s notice, and certainly not it’s encouragement.

      • 143 bonkers
        October 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm

        We’re going to door-to-door, peer-to-peer, phone-to-phone. This is much more effective and it’s how President Obama won in a landslide victory.

        Marches and 100,000+ rallies will come later. Timing is everything. Make it happen on an individual level right now.

  33. 144 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2011 at 11:54 am

    HEADS UP: Senate vote for the American Jobs Act is TOMORROW TUESDAY!!

    @BarackObama Tweets:

    // Tomorrow, the Senate votes on the American Jobs Act—make sure your Republican legislator knows you support it: //

    • October 10, 2011 at 12:05 pm

      Who are the most likely Republicans and least likely Dems to vote for this? I know there was a list here once. We can all call them and say, “Roads, bridges and schools need to be repaired in my state, too. Please vote for the President’s American Jobs Act.” We don’t have to be their constituents.

      • 146 hopefruit2
        October 10, 2011 at 12:20 pm

        Dem Senators: Kay Hagan (NC) and Mary Landrieu (LA)

        Repub Senators: All of them

        • October 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm

          All of the Republican Senators are likely to vote for AJA? I was thinking more like Olympia Snow or someone else who has voted with the Dems in the past.

          • 148 hopefruit2
            October 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm

            No sorry, I meant the opposite. All of them are opposed to it. I should have written “none of them.”

          • 149 Desraye
            October 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm

            Yea, the maine twins might vote for it. You also got Scott Brown. Rand Paul may vote for it since he went to Ohio with the Prez.

          • 151 a4alice
            October 10, 2011 at 2:58 pm

            Well. For the republicans who had twitter – there are those who have NOT signed the Norquist Pledge. I tweeted them and asked them to support the AJA. Let’s see – WIW has the list over on the side bar here of people who did not sign. I did this a few days ago. So that could be some republicans.

  34. 152 Linda
    October 10, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Huffington Fluff has jumped the shark….. They are now sending all comments with links for moderation before allowing them to be posted, even youtube links.

  35. 157 Fred
    October 10, 2011 at 11:59 am

    now THIS is what Luis Gutierez should be railing against for the President 😯 🙄

    Tea Party Activist Ran Sham Candidate Against Architect Of Arizona’s Anti-Immigrant Law To Split Hispanic Vote

    Arizona Senate President Russell Pearce (R) led the charge to impose his state’s harsh anti-immigration law, SB-1070, prompting critics to gather enough signatures to force a recall election of the powerful Republican. Olivia Cortes, a naturalized Mexican immigrant, filed to run against Pearce on a pro-immigration platform and soon signs promoting Cortes’s candidacy appeared on street corners declaring, “Sí, Se Puede!”

    But Cortes is not who she appeared to be, according to a judge. When another Republican — who opposes Pearce’s draconian law — entered the race against Pearce and went to court to challenge Cortes’ candidacy, a judge ruled that “Pearce supporters recruited Cortes” to split the Hispanic vote, the New York Times reports:

    The judge, Edward O. Burke of Superior Court of Maricopa County, declined to remove her from the ballot but did say that the evidence suggested that some of her so-called supporters really supported Mr. Pearce. “The court finds that Pearce supporters recruited Cortes, a political neophyte, to run in the recall election to siphon Hispanic votes from Lewis to advance Pearce’s recall election bid,” the judge said in his ruling.

    More links to Pearce were uncovered. Greg Western, a Pearce ally who is the chairman of the East Valley Tea Party, led the effort to recruit Cortes and became her campaign adviser. Meanwhile, Pearce’s nieces helped collect signatures to get Cortes on the ballot, and one of Pearce’s brothers, who is a justice of the peace and thus prohibited from campaigning, helped them. “It remained unclear who exactly financed Ms. Cortes’s short-lived campaign, which employed a professional signature gatherer, produced untold lawn signs, created a Web site and issued occasional news releases,” the Times reports.

    Under pressure and facing threats of subpoenas against Pearce’s relatives, Cortes dropped out of the race.

    Unfortunately, ballots listing her name had already been prepared for the November 8 election, and there is not enough time to reprint them, though election officials will post notices at polling places saying that Cortes is no longer running. Still, her phony run may have dissuaded other candidates from entering the race. “Cortes did not respond to a telephone call, an e-mail or a knock at her door.”

    Judge Finds Manipulation in Recall Vote in Arizona
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/us/politics/judge-finds-manipulation-in-recall-vote-in-arizona.html?ref=politics

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/10/340010/tea-party-activst-ran-sham-candidate-against-architect-of-arizonas-anti-immigrant-law-to-split-hispanic-vote/

    • October 10, 2011 at 12:11 pm

      They say there is not enough time to reprint, but we are only talking about a district election, not a state election. I would love to be able to vote Pearce out, but do not live there. The other thing about Pearce is that he has his hand in the Private Prisions initiative, which is why he pushed the illegal immigration bill.

    • October 10, 2011 at 1:20 pm

      Pearce is toast! This just put the whipped cream and cherry on top. He and the teapotty think all POC are ignorant people who could be duped to vote for this woman. She withdrew because testimony would have put her and her so called supporters in big trouble for criminal charges if they had to testify any further under oath. Her run didn’t take out other candidates. This is a Repug district. It was always going to be Pearce against Lewis. Lewis is a Repub but not a terrible guy like Pearce. Pearce just wanted to stack the deck against Lewis. BIG FAIL!

  36. 162 jacquelineoboomer
    October 10, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Just heard that old Republican Judd Gregg will endorse Willard Romney.

    We recall Gregg was nominated for Secretary of Commerce by President Obama, sat in the limelight for a while, but later withdrew his name.

    Looks like these two flip floppers are meant for each other.

  37. 166 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Chipsticks, if it’s not too much to ask – I’m sure you must be swamped…only if you have the time..

    Could you set up a new thread with the “PASS THIS BILL!” theme and links to contacting senators – since the President has tweeted that the Jobs Bill is going to be voted on in the senate tomorrow Tuesday. Thanks so much Chips!!

  38. October 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Just wanted to wish my fellow Canadian Obamacrats a Happy Thanksgiving.

  39. 175 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    October 10, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Where is Donna’s call to action to call our Congress critters to vote for the AJA?

  40. 176 hopefruit2
    October 10, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    FYI – Rev Al will be broadcasting his radio show (1-4PM) from the OWS in NYC today.

    http://thebuzzcincy.com/national/lincolnware/rev-al-sharpton-to-broadcast-show-live-from-wall-st-protests-today/

  41. 178 globalcitizenlinda
    October 10, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    please help me ask the media and romney this question or a variation of this: “good you are NOW pointiing out how poisonous religious intorelaance is but WHEN and WHERE did you ever speak up for religious diversity and tolerance WHEN the same tactics and words where being used by the same people to attack President Obama’s faith during the last 4 years?

  42. 179 theo67
    October 10, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    I just retweeted Maggyw519’s tweet asking the OWS to help pass the AJA. Someone responded to me saying, “We aren’t worried about passing another corruption riddled bill. We have bigger fish to fry. #OWS”

    I know this person probably doesn’t speak for the whole movement, but what other “bigger fish” could they possibly have to fry? I’m stunned.

    • 180 hopefruit2
      October 10, 2011 at 1:06 pm

      Unfortunately theo67, I do believe that this person speaks for a significant proportion of the OWS movement. This has been a huge concern of mine since I saw the mission of the original OWS founders.

      Theo, what is your Twitter name and who responded to you in those words? I think you need to tweet this response to your followers to alert folks about this OWS movement. You also need to forward this to Nancy Pelosi and the DCCC….

      This needs to be out in the open…

      • 181 theo67
        October 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm

        Yes – I responded to the tweet, but didn’t want to retweet in case people thought I was endorsing his comments. I’m @glomad67 on twitter. The person who tweeted me was @jankthemachine.

        • 182 hopefruit2
          October 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm

          Thanks..It seems though he/she just joined (only 23 tweets) 4 followers, following 1 person. Looks like a troll to me, and probably a Ron Paul supporter.

    • 183 ChristiMtl
      October 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm

      Are you surprised by this answer? I’m not,.

      • 184 theo67
        October 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm

        I was a bit surprised by this answer, because I just can’t think what these “bigger fish” are? This is the curious part. Unless he says that they are focused on the nomination of Cordray to the CFPA, which I doubt. But, if the 2012 election is supposed to be a referendum on the economy, then what could be more important? And what can they possibly find corrupt in putting people back to work? Sounds like conspiracy theory nonsense, to me.

    • 185 hopefruit2
      October 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm

      Okay, I got the troll – @JanktheMachine, and I called him out. This person is obviously a Ron Paul supporter or other right-winger.

    • 188 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      October 10, 2011 at 1:49 pm

      This is why theo. I have been posting this great post by UT on OFA as well. There are a lotta elements to this protest that aren’t pro Dem, progressive, or Pro Obama. Here you go:

      This is a post by utaustinliberal from TheObamaDiary for Obamabots that are so enamoured by the OWS movement:Do you support people telling millions of people not to vote in 2012, do you support people constantly bashing President Obama? Do you support people who are scattered ( that’s putting it kindly) and whose message is convoluted? Do you support a Canadian corporation who sees themself as an extension of the teaparty and were the ones who began this so called “movement?”, do you support a faction that seems to be chock full of Ron Paulites, libertarians, emoprogs, professional lefties who use this so called “movement” as a breeding ground to undermine President Obama? Do you support OWS Chicago who thought their main mission was to hurl racial slurs and epithets about President Obama? Do you support OWS Chicago who went to PBO’s Chicago campaign HQ’s to cause a disgusting ruckus? Do you support a so called “movement” who keeps tying PBO to wallstreet and calling him a crony of Wallstreet? Do you support a “movement” that doesn’t seem to see the truth in front of them that republicans are blocking Richard Cordray’s nomination to head of the CFPB; an agency that actually stops the predatory practices of wallstreet and big banks? Do you support a “movement” that doesn’t seem to see the truth in front of them that republicans are trying to defund Dodd-Frank financial reform law and drastically slow down the implementation of the law? Do you support a “movement” that aimlessly wanders about chanting in a zombie like manner instead of doing something proactive like registering people to vote in 2012 so GOPTeabaggers can be kicked out, Dems can retain the whitehouse and both chambers of congress and progress can finally be restored? Do you support a “movement” that doesn’t seem to understand that if they want money out of elections they should find a legal channel to strike down Citizens United? Do you support a “movement” that doesn’t seem to understand that if they want the economy to improve or obtain jobs that will boost the middleclass they should petition congress to pass President Obama’s American Jobs Act?
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    • October 10, 2011 at 1:52 pm

      Yeah well I’m listening to Rev Al’s show & still not clear on what it is they want. They want change.. but of who,what,where .. is not clear. Rev Al has said – the protestors have agree, that they are ‘non-partisan’.. whatever that means. Rangel was on there telling folks to go after Congress- all of Congress.. but there seems to be ZERO interest in that. Van Jones tweeted a poll that states that more than half of
      Americans support the ows, and apparently thats more support either repubs or dems get.

      Frankly I’m no clearer than I was yesterday.. and I am very disappointed that they refuse to support anything- or call this political. A lot of people seem very happy and supportive of it, particularly media/political media people.. and yet I’m still confused by what they want done.

      • October 10, 2011 at 1:53 pm

        Dick Gregory is speaking, curious to see what he has to say.

        • October 10, 2011 at 1:55 pm

          Okay, I’m liking Dick Gregory- he’s saying this ows is about white folks, ha! White folks are now feeling the pain of what poc have always felt.. and saying the cops too better watch out, cause now they’re arresting white kids not black and mexican kids. ! Go Dick Gregory.

  43. 193 theo67
    October 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Just saw on twitter that Joe the Plumber is going to run for Congress in Ohio. http://www.alan.com/2011/10/10/joe-the-plumber-running-for-congress/

  44. 199 donna dem 4 obama
    October 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Chips Im at the tire shop can u repost my call to action. I just heard the vote is tomorrow

  45. 200 Don
    October 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    My anger comes from the fact that for a long time I thought that the CBO had the President’s back. I’ve watched for years Maxine Waters and others talk a good game about issues that affect the black community. I thought that the CBO was there for me, to fight to make sure that my community was represented in the halls of power. For years I believed that the black intellectuals that roam the halls of higher education had my community’s wellbeing in mind. I have to admit had President Obama not become President, I would still be walking around in a fog about those that I thought represented my community’s interest. I also admit that when they told me that Bill Clinton was the first black President, I believed them. I have no idea why I’m writing this post; maybe I’m confessing my past sins. Or maybe I’m coming to the realization that I once was blind, but now I see.

    • 201 hopefruit2
      October 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm

      I think you meant the “CBC” not the “CBO.” Otherwise I agree with everything in this excellent post.

    • 202 globalcitizenlinda
      October 10, 2011 at 1:43 pm

      these members of the CBC have really revealed themselves for who they are and I hope that there is an accountability moment from our community during which the selfserving ones are voted out and replaced by new representatives who place people ahead of person grandor and enrichment.

      I AM DONE WITH MAXINE WALTERS and other loud mouths because the song “the backstabers” really applies to them

  46. October 10, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Donna, I wholly support your idea about talking strategy/messaging. IF the Dems where all on the same page ,saying the same thing and doing that in front of many cameras/microphones as the R’s, our country and our politics would not be in the mess they are.

    I am mostly lurking these few days. We came to VA to celebrate our granddaughter’s first birthday. What joy she has brought our family! No, she doesn’t replace Walker but she definitely fills a big hole in our hearts and lives.

  47. 204 donna dem 4 obama
    October 10, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    The call to action has to b directed at the senate

  48. 205 busbus
    October 10, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    As phony as the backdrop of this speech, so is Willard Mitt Romney. In my opinion, Willard Mitt Romney is an opportunist and untrustworthy candidate for the office of president. In my opinion, his flip-flopping supports my opinion of him. Also, in my opinion, Willard Mitt Romney is less interested in governing and is more interested in having the title of President of the United States and enjoying all of the “pomp and circumstances” that comes with holding this office. Willard Mitt Romney, in my opinion, will sell his soul to to Satan, serve as the puppet for the extreme right, which is financially headed by the Koch brothers and continue to flip-flop to achieve his goal.

    In my opinion, I do believe that Willard Mitt Romney has already sold his soul to Satan! Just as Chris Christie had a secret two hour meeting with Charles Koch in New York, I feel that Willard Mitt Romney has also met with him or his brother. The Koch brothers and/or their supporters and organizations are behind Romney. I can’t prove it; but, I feel it! All these brothers want is a puppet to fulfill their objectives. Just as Cheney was the “shadow president,” I think that, if Romney wins the primaries, his vice president pick will be the Koch brothers’ selection and who will serve as the “shadow president.” Could it be Chris Christie? If Willard Mitt Romney were to win the general election and serve for two terms, Christie, as vice president, would be thoroughly prepared to serve as President for the next eight years. Would Rubio be the next to serve as vice president?

    In my opinion, the Koch brothers and the extreme right-wing are looking long-term. Therefore, we MUST stop them! It is vitally important that Obama/Biden wins the 2012 election. AMERICA CAN NOT AFFORD A GOP/TP PRESIDENCY! Too much is at stake for America and Americans!


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