222 Responses to “make your voice heard (chat away here)”


  1. October 8, 2011 at 7:29 am

    Brilliantly said Mr President.

    Come on congress PASS THE BILL you know it makes sense! I am so glad that the Senate are voting this week I just hope to goodness that they do the right thing and vote FOR it.

    God bless President Barack Obama he is truly the greatest leader in my lifetime.

  2. October 8, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Both the senators from NJ support the bill.

  3. 3 anniebella
    October 8, 2011 at 8:09 am

    I have a Republican Senator, Richard Burr, he’s one of those hard right nuts. Then there is Senator Kay Hagan a Democratic and I don’t know where she stands but I have email, wrote, and call, and let her know where I stand. She will be hearing from me again today.

    • 4 Bill
      October 8, 2011 at 11:00 am

      Anniebella, I talked to Senator Hagan’s office.yesterday. The aide was really hedging saying she is still reading the bill and has not decided. I do not think she wants to vote for it and I am not sure what her problem is. She is not up for reelection until 2014. Maybe Art Pope got to her.

      • 5 anniebella
        October 8, 2011 at 1:36 pm

        I told Senator Hagan that I voted for her before, but if she does not support this bill she will not get my vote again.

  4. October 8, 2011 at 8:45 am

    Both my senators are rethugs who are against the bill. Lugar and Coats. Coats had the nerve to send me a lying letter trying to explain why he won’t vote to put people back to work. I will contact them until they can’t see straight.

    • October 8, 2011 at 9:16 am

      good on you proudofobama! I love your tenacity. It’s about time these rethug senators and reps realized who they were representing – they should be giving voice to the people they represent NOT their own ambitions.

      Excuse the rant I am just sick of the do nothing congress and the fact that President Obama is doing the majority of the work for ALL people.

    • 8 utaustinliberal
      October 8, 2011 at 1:10 pm

      I’m in the same boat as you Proud. My Senators are John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchinson and my rep is Carter. All republicans. So happy that Hutchinson is retiring. We might possibly get a Latino Democrat in her seat.

  5. 9 proudmemberofglobalzero
    October 8, 2011 at 9:01 am

    Rubio is a no and Bill Nelson is a yes. My rep Ted Deutch is a yes.

    • 10 jacquelineoboomer
      October 8, 2011 at 12:37 pm

      I’ve got one R senator and my congressman is the same (yuck). But – luckily – Senator Dick Durbin will come through for us in Illinois!

      I’ll call the two Rs on Monday, even though I don’t really want to associate or communicate with them in any way. This is worth the angst.

      • October 8, 2011 at 2:39 pm

        Hey jacqueline i got JJJr so no sweat for me. Now Kirk is a different story. He’s a foul person. i won’t even put the human label on him.

      • 12 57andFemale
        October 8, 2011 at 7:13 pm

        In Illinois, we really need to push Kirk. He’s a lying, slimy Republican but he cannot hold this state unless he at least tacks and stays in the center. It’s not fun to contact him but the pressure could yield results when it would be worthless to do so with some other Republicans.

        I contact his office at least three times/week. Keep at it. We do have a chance here in IL of getting a Republican vote.

  6. October 8, 2011 at 9:06 am

    If you write to your congress person cc you newspaper’s editorial page in push back the lies. Although they know no shame share the truth.

  7. 14 hopefruit2
    October 8, 2011 at 9:08 am

    My senators Mikulski & Cardin, and rep Van Hollen are all yes’s.

  8. 19 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    October 8, 2011 at 9:18 am

    AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED..ANYONE AGAINST THIS BILL IS GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST OUR COUNTRY AND IS DOING IT TO MAKE THINGS MORE DIFFICULT FOR PBO! THEY NEED AN EVICTION NOTICE! THIS IS A GOP STALL IN ORDER TO DO MORE DAMAGE TO AMERICA!…AKA..KOCH BROS. AGENDA!

  9. 20 hopefruit2
    October 8, 2011 at 9:41 am

    I notice the media ever so slightly is trying to quietly walk back their “economy is tanking!” meme that they were so gleefully embracing just about 1-2 months ago. Why you ask? Because right now, the President has put out a jobs plan which has been scored by the CBO and assessed by independent economists to HELP the economy, add jobs while reducing deficit. In addition, the OWS protests (from the genuine ones) are about people being unemployed in the midst of ridiculous corporate profits.

    The media and GOP cannot simultaneously attack the President for a bad economy while obviously standing in way of improving it, so they are in a somewhat difficult position when it comes to the jobs’ report. They are now unable to blast the “Economy-is-headed-for-recession!” horn as they have been doing in the last few months. Now let’s see what happens next month.

    • October 8, 2011 at 10:01 am

      I agree hopefruit2. He also put reporters on the spot when he asked them in a since to do their jobs, and go ask republicans to put forth their jobs plan and have it scored by the CBO and other economists to see which plan would create more jobs.

      They were anticipating a bad jobs report so they could pounce and when it wasn’t so, it through them off their narrative.

      With Americans giving congress a approval rating of 11%, this is a sure sign that more and more Americans are starting to understand, that it’s congress who’s hindering our recovery.

    • October 8, 2011 at 5:33 pm

      the moment the President asked the WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS CLOWN CIRCUS to show him the GOP JOBS BILL…

      they’ve been trying to change the meme.

  10. 23 Fred
    October 8, 2011 at 9:45 am

    good morning TOD family
    hang tough Mr President

    • 24 Mel
      October 8, 2011 at 10:19 am

      I”am confident tha the bill will pass the GOP will havw a big problem explaining why they are against the BILL
      plus the GOP are complaining wher are the jobs? they can not have it both ways.

  11. October 8, 2011 at 9:53 am

    TOD family, it was so much going on this week. The President was letting Americans know he doesn’t want to run against a do nothing Congress and named names, BUT HE WILL. Jay Carney’s presser was on fire on friday 10-7-2011. The march in NYC was hot because I was there and loving every minute of seeing people wake the hell up. Al Sharpton was kicking some ass on his show and one of his guests was Mrs. Cooper. Rachel exposed so many troubling things about the strategy of the Regressive party and caught how stiff and boring Mitt is when speaking in front of cadets and his hiring of Bush advisors who led us into IRAQ. Lawrence O’Donnell did some of his best work from his conversation with Cain which I was not personally offended by because if you write a book be prepared to defend it and be asked questions about your thoughts, words, actions, or inactions. Lawrence exposed Cain as the Liar he is and he showed the world his explosive anger when he is confronted or cornered.

    Chipsticks, thank you for capturing it all and more….

  12. October 8, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Chipsticks, you have to capture the C-SPAN topic on The Washington Ideas Forum with Vice President Biden PART 1 on 10-6-11 starting at 02:08:37. It was a work of ART.

    I don’t know how to just pull out just the piece of the video the group would enjoy it because he was suppose to be interviewd by Brian Williams but he had to cover the President’s news conference and David Gregory stepped in and Vice President Biden was strong on every issue raised.

  13. October 8, 2011 at 10:23 am

    I watched “Up With Chris Hayes”, this morning and it wasn’t that bad of a show.

    There was a segment of the show where they played a clip of a protester saying that this movement wasn’t about party but about class,. Righ after Naomi Klein stated that OWS wasn’t a movement that was readily supporting either party, inclining that this movement wouldn’t be used to support the president or the democratic movement. In response to that statement Chris said that he gave the republicans credit because they were able to use the TParty movemnent to gain controll of the house and to now be in a position to put forth their agenda.

    So in a sense if you read between the lines of the entirety of his statement he was asking her if OWS (left of the DEM party) does not get behind the democratic party and force their agenda as the Tparty (right of the GOP party) did, then how do you plan of getting your agenda through?

    • 28 RinaX
      October 8, 2011 at 10:30 am

      Exactly. Be pissed off all you want, but if they don’t ultimately pick a party whose votes they want to influence to make a real difference, then ultimately they will be just a bunch of people yelling. You need to influence legislation to make a real difference, and no matter how the Tea Party got started, it was that power that has led the Republican party to where they are today, as awful as it is.

      • October 8, 2011 at 10:44 am

        I call it solution-free screeching.

      • 31 prettyfoot58
        October 8, 2011 at 12:54 pm

        oftentimes…a group of folks gather about a common issue…but they do not necessarily have a common solution…oftentimes they are very fragmented…as this group is…

        this is a dangerous time for any group…it can be co-opted and derailed…i have seen a few so-called leaders of the group try to define the mission of the group…what their demands are and why they want to see….no one can really say…other than being mad at wall street….

        a demonstration is not necessarily a rebellion and a rebellion is not a revolution..however all these things can lead to change…

        In Wisconsin…the demonstrations did lead to a ORGANIZED REBELLION…which had unity of focus…and organizers who knew how to organize…and not only organize…but brought about some change in Wisconsin…….this is what is missing in the Wall Street protest….

        what will happened when it fizzles out….when folks go home

        it is good that the Unions have joined the protest…they offer structure and organization….what will happen from there …i do not know…

        but i am not surprised that tweety and company want to some how use this against the President…this is what they do….

        Pressssssssss ON!!

    • October 8, 2011 at 10:38 am

      I saw on twitter that Naomi Klein doesn’t believe voting will do any good. I’ve seen similar sentiments from people involved in the movement. I’m curious also as to how they plan on getting what they want if they don’t work with a political party. Who do they think is going to help, the Green party?

      • October 8, 2011 at 10:43 am

        I’m sorry to say this, but if all that faction is going to do is say “don’t vote” or “3rd Party” then I don’t care if they vote. They are so blinded by their righteousness they don’t care how it affects the rest of us.

        • October 8, 2011 at 12:12 pm

          Good morning everyone. you’re on it meta. My thing too is one should not complain if you don’t have some skin in the game. If you’re not gonna vote, go sit your ass down somewhere outta the way.

        • 35 nathkatun7
          October 8, 2011 at 5:28 pm

          Meta, I absolutely agree with you 100%! I am interested in practical solutions and not just righteous indignation. Righteous indignation may help Naomi Klein sell her books but until it leads to effective political organizing to acquire power, it certainly will not result in the overthrow of corporate capitalism.

      • 37 hopefruit2
        October 8, 2011 at 11:44 am

        interesting…Congressman John Lewis (former civil rights leader) was denied opportunity to speak at OccupyAtlanta (OWS) rally…

        http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/15630309/occupy-wall-street-protests-come-to-atlanta

        Yet the same folks probably have no problems allowing millionaires like Ratigan, Moore, etc to represent them.

        • October 8, 2011 at 11:52 am

          Holy shit- about Lewis.. what kind of BS is that? I knew that Conyers was booed, but didn’t know about Rep Lewis, now that really ticks me off.

          I’ve had genuine doubts about these protests.. but ever since I read Klein’s comments on twitter a couple of days ago- and with all the press/interviews she’s been getting- it has clarified more and more that once again some folks are intent on getting folks not to vote, as they did in 2010.. how these folks calls themselves the ‘left’ boggles my mind. AnyONE telling people not to vote is on the side of republicans, period.. because that is the only ones that will be helped by folks not voting.

          Rev Al’s march is coming up on the 15th or 16th.. and I am hopeful this will turn the tide. Also, still waiting to see what Van Jones group is planning… will they lead or will they follow?

          • 39 prettyfoot58
            October 8, 2011 at 1:00 pm

            i have yet to hear…clearly defined goals or strategies

            But radical protests like these make folks ask …one …who is sponsoring it …and …two…..what do they want….esp when you boo a legendary figure such as John Lewis….who are you to turn up your nose at him,,..where is the respect and reverence that should be accorded to him…that says all that i need to hear

        • 40 Fred
          October 8, 2011 at 2:12 pm

          you know what I’d be very careful with these folks.My radar is going off like crazy and they might just be plants …

      • 43 Debz
        October 8, 2011 at 1:12 pm

        I don’t think Naomi Klein is even an American citizen. I thought she was Canadian. So who is she to tell Americans not to vote.

      • 45 N
        October 8, 2011 at 7:48 pm

        ugh. Elected officials don’t care about people who don’t vote.

        If you don’t vote, you’re not participating. If you’re not participating you can’t expect to have much influence in how policy is made or what directions things move in.

      • 46 chiara
        October 8, 2011 at 9:08 pm

        I’ve looked through her twitter feed going back into Sept. and can’t find that, can you tell me what date to look on?

        In an abstract way I think there’s a larger point to be made about whether voting will do any good. Of course we know that the Democratic Party is the one that will stand with the people at Wall Street and we know for sure, the republicans won’t. I think the point about voting is that we can keep voting and voting and voting for all the people who we think best represent us and our values but as long as they have to operate within this profoundly broken and corrupted system they won’t be able to change much. So in that larger sense it might be safe to say voting doesn’t matter…..if the system’s still the same. Of course we know in an immediate sense, voting does matter.

        • October 8, 2011 at 9:23 pm

          She made her comment on Democracy now, apparently again this morning on msnbc. here is the link to Democracy now & her comment, which they then tweeted:
          Naomi Klein: Protesters Are Seeking Change in the Streets Because It Won’t Come From the Ballot Box
          http://www.democracynow.org/2011/10/6/naomi_klein_protesters_are_seeking_change

          Voting matters for the immediate as well as the long term. Nothing will change or be accomplished without voting/ without legislation- we vote in our legislators and use our system to change things. the system isn’t going to change because some folks are yelling on wall street.. unless they’re also voting.

          • 48 chiara
            October 8, 2011 at 9:53 pm

            I and many, many others have a different take on that. Of course voting matters, of course we should all vote for the candidates who we believe represent us the best, but when people are saying the ballot box won’t matter they are talking in a macro way. Yes, we can vote for the most amazing candidate (Obama) but we still send that person into a profoundly corrupted and broken system. Sure, you can say legislation can make the difference but until you get literally millions of people in the streets yelling that they are not going to stand for a system in which corporations have a stronger and more important voice than we do, then no legislation will occur.

            This movement is about telling everyone, the 1% and the politicians that we know the system is broken, we know that it has not always been that way and it can be fixed but that we demand that they do so. So yes, we must vote but right now those good people we vote for are being sent to operate within a very diseased system and they have no choice but to live with it.

            Right now, if someone is elected to the House, they have to start raising money for the next election almost immediately and they have to spend somewhere around 40% of their time fundraising over the next two years. That is time they could be working on policy but because the system is so screwed up, they can’t do that. Often it is good people stuck in a very bad system.

            I would caution against characterizing this as merely some people yelling on Wall Street, this is organic and growing and is already far, far beyond NYC. In order to create real change that might show up in legislation to get the money out of politics it is going to take a massive majority of America to recognize the problem and tell our politicians we want it changed and that is what this is aiming to do.

            • October 8, 2011 at 10:20 pm

              Well now I haven’t merely characterized them as people yelling on wall street, we have made an abundance of comments on the wall street occupiers here on this thread today.. and what I feel, and so it appears do others.. is that we are far from convinced on exactly what this is. It all seems questionable, and I have a very much wait & see attitude on some of it.. and a skeptical attitude on parts of it. You seem to know exactly what it’s about- yet that hasn’t been real clear yet to a lot of folks. When I read that it was started by this anti-consumer group from Canada.. and when I see folks out there using that same consumer media to hawk their books.. then color me a skeptic. By the same token, when the folks out there are clamoring to hear what Klein or West or Moore have to say, yet shut down John Lewis.. then color me skeptical. When I hear nothing of registering folks to vote, pushing for the AJA to pass.. calling out republican obstacles.. color me a skeptic. I look forward to them accomplishing something – I especially am looking forward to Rev Al’s march in a week- as I expect that to harness some practical/ concrete solutions.. and hopefully put somethings into better perspective.

              In the meantime I’m with folks here who feel strong about continuing to push for concrete issues such as the AJA, registering voters and informing folks on pending legislation that will prevent people from voting.. and calling out folks who advocate against voting.

    • October 8, 2011 at 10:41 am

      Actually, I’m not ever going to give Republicans credit for anything. Ever. They’ve just about ruined every institution in this country for decades to come. Hideous people without one iota of shame.

    • 53 hopefruit2
      October 8, 2011 at 10:43 am

      You might be right, bjw2. Some OWS supporters are anti-Obama and neutral towards the Republicans, but will not explicitly say so for fear of being called out as hypocrites. They are left on some issues, but mostly Libertarian on others, and yes, race unfortunately does play a role in their current stance against the President. Notice they are emphasizing diffuse anger and disgruntlement, while de-emphasizing targeted actions and voting. So when they claim that they are not supporting either party, they are really hoping that their net effect will be to undermine President’s Obama’s support, while they appear to be neutral – which inadvertently helps the Repubs. It ‘s a passive-Nader type strategy going towards the 2012 elections.

      The T-Party was NOT an independent movement. It was created by and for the Republican party as a response to President Obama’s election in 2008. Since the Republican brand had been stigmatized after the Bush presidency and further marginalized by John McCain’s defeat, the powers that be decided that they needed to find a way to rebrand themselves in other to take back congress and the WH. The folks who run as “Tea-Party” candidates run with an (R) next to their name, not an (I). Notice that the Tea-Party was no where to be found when President Obama called for Wall Street Regulation; The Tea-Party was no where to be found when Gov Walker was trying to dismantle the Unions in Wisconsin. The Tea-Party’s goal was an attempt to prevent Health Care Reform, and to deceive voters in the midterms. They were partly successful.

      • 54 ChristiMtl
        October 8, 2011 at 11:43 am

        THIS is so true hopefruit2

        ”So when they claim that they are not supporting either party, they are really hoping that their net effect will be to undermine President’s Obama’s support, while they appear to be neutral – which inadvertently helps the Repubs. It ‘s a passive-Nader type strategy going towards the 2012 elections.”

        You nailed it

      • October 8, 2011 at 7:18 pm

        Anytime you have people like Cornell West, Jane Hamsher, Laura Flanders, etc involved, your radar SHOULD go off. These are firebaggers (aka left teabaggers). They are no friend of the President or 99% of Dems. They are purist and anyone who will not march in lockstep with them are looked down on. They are the same people who called the President a “House Nigger”, “Uncle Tom” and a “Black Mascot”. Jane called Obama supporters stupid MF’s. I want no part of this group. Their disrespect of John Lewis told me what I already knew. BTW, Flanders on was on Schultz show relating stories about people who said they won’t vote for the President. What is their agenda? What do they think will happen if a Romney or Perry gets in the WH and If we lose the Senate. I think these people are saboteurs/

      • 56 Chi
        October 9, 2011 at 2:04 am

        Spot on hopefruit2…

    • October 8, 2011 at 11:40 am

      Yeah I’m disgusted with Klein, she has been pushing that voting doesn’t change anything.. not impressed, & sincerely hope folks are not following her line.

      • October 8, 2011 at 12:27 pm

        I’m sorry if this offends anyone, but I was disgusted with Chris Hayes’ show. I turned it off after 10 minutes so maybe it got better but I could not stand the Obama bashing from the sanctimonious Klein. You know she just knows more than everybody else, knows more than our democratically elected president. I wore my fingers out tweeting to her and Chris to let her know how disgusted I was.

        Why aren’t these “progressives” turning their focus on the Rs who are trying to destroy this country? I swear I don’t believe for a minutes that any of them supported Pres Obama during the primaries. Their disappointment — really hatred — is just too deep. They never ever acknowledge any of his successes. Just whine whatever he does is not good enough.

        What is it? Did folks like Klein — self-proclaimed experts — expect to be named to a cabinet post or something and are bitter because they didn’t get a nod?

        I also found out via twitter that Klein is Canadian. Not even a US citizen! Why is she meddling in US affairs and why are people like Chris Hayes allowing it? That truly pissed me off.

        Don’t you dare criticize my President. Take care of your own back yard. Don’t you dare tell US citizens their vote doesn’t count. My blood was boiling.

        • 59 jacquelineoboomer
          October 8, 2011 at 12:51 pm

          Naomi Klein is a Canadian author, and is a self-proclaimed activist of the “anti-corporate globalization movement.” She writes about social conditions and protests around the world. I have not heard her speak at all (since I’m trying to avoid cable news) – and, if she’s Obama bashing, I’m glad I haven’t.

          Her bio on wiki (including her family’s story, if interested):

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein

          • October 8, 2011 at 1:13 pm

            She is a Goddess to many on the left. Her and Krugman sit side by side on the alter.

            • 61 jacquelineoboomer
              October 8, 2011 at 1:31 pm

              I think maybe I have heard of her before (and may have even seen her before on Charlie Rose), but – like I’ve done with Krugman – think my mind just automatically blocked her out!

        • 62 utaustinliberal
          October 8, 2011 at 1:28 pm

          Hey Proud, you’re absolutely right. Chris Hayes show this morning was disgusting. I recently found out that the Occupy WallStreet movement didn’t even begin in the United States. It began in freaking Canada! and they brought it over here. Also they may say that they’re grassroots, but a company in Canada was the one that first sponsored the Occupy whatever movement so they’re not 100% grassroots. Naomi Klein was disgusting. She’s not even an American and she comes to Chris Hayes show to co-opt the movement, tell people not to vote, tell people that President Obama is a huge disappointment. I watched the whole show and Hayes never even called her out for telling people not to vote. In my opinion if you tell people not to vote, you’re a republican or a libertarian. How the hell can you affect the system if you don’t get your ass to the ballot box and kick out GOP Teabaggers and some Democrats who are obstructing progress? If you have the privilege of voting and you don’t vote; then in my opinion you should STFU. Klein is a first class idiot and in my opinion, the Occupy Wall Street people would be better served if shysters and grifters like her go back to the rock from whence they emerged.

          The other thing that pissed me off was when Tim Carpenter; some conservative writer for the Washington Examiner blamed the Solyndra mess on President Obama and tried to imply that the loan hadn’t already been pre-approved by the Bush administration. Van Jones tried to correct his lies, but Jones correction was so weak and he also just basically allowed Carpenter to imply that President Obama allowed the loan to go through because a high level campaign donor curried a favor. Chris Hayes sided with Carpenter and also implied President Obama was corrupt by letting his campaign donor curry a favor for Solyndra. I almost threw up in disgust.

          The whole show was falt out disgusting.

          • 63 jacquelineoboomer
            October 8, 2011 at 1:40 pm

            Understand your frustration, but I gotta speak up for our PBO-supporting friends from Canada! There are many. 🙂

            I don’t mind a “global” movement – as in the anti-war protests – it’s just unusual that it’s taking aim at financial entities in our country on the street (we’re not used to that). That shows you how haywire things have gotten here at home.

            We should all keep a close watch on OWS, but for me the jury is still out. However, any Obama bashers like Naomi Klein and others NEED NOT APPLY! Americans DO need to vote for Democrats or we can say goodbye to any rational thought in Washington or any other city or state in the future.

            • October 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm

              Thanks, Jacque! I’m from the north, so I was sorta dodging the ‘bricks’, though I agree with the general sentiments re Ms Klein’s voting advice. 😉

            • October 8, 2011 at 3:10 pm

              I live 90 miles from Canada.. so I kind like ’em 😉 However, anyone telling folks not to vote, or that voting doesn’t work- is a BS artist and their agenda needs to be questioned. I think the idea that a non-citizen who enjoys the advantages that have come via our ‘votes’, via pushing for legislators/legislation is rather a tone-deaf message.. and takes some gall on her part. Personally, never heard of Klein until 3 days ago when her tweet was everywhere.. it matters not where she’s from only that she’s pushing a very stupid and actually rather dangerous (for all our country) message.. ‘voting doesn’t work’.

              Now the good news I think is, that we are far from alone in our concern about the Occupy Wall Street message/agenda. Lots of folks appear to support it- with a grain of salt.. I believe in democracy and I believe that we have the right to protest.. but I also want to see folks registering to vote, putting the onus on the republicans in congress who we alllll know are the obstacles to evolution and to accomplishments that benefit our country. There appears to be genuine ‘energy’ out there.. and there appears also to be plenty of folks attempting to incorporate that energy to their own issue/agenda… so if they can do that, so can we. We keep pushing the need to register voters, those who are able to go to the protests- go & take your agenda with you: regiseter folks to vote, pass out info telling them how to reigster.. or laws being pushed in their state to prevent them from voting, etc. Take copies of the AJA out with you.. take names and numbers of the repubs.. and dems in Congress who are voting against the AJA. We have voices too.

              • October 8, 2011 at 3:12 pm

                Not only do we have voices.. but we can Lead too.. we have a very fine example of leadership~

                • October 8, 2011 at 3:20 pm

                  I also think its important to note, that Klein.. and others, enjoy great benefits of being in America… one is the ability to spout BS about America to Americans.. and do it legally & without fear of our govt silencing her… So Ms. Klein may not be honest enough to be grateful for our votes.. but we all know better.

              • October 8, 2011 at 3:21 pm

                X 2 Sherij. Don’t worry, I’m totally with you on the effrontery of Naomi Klein! In fact, even if she had acquired American citizenship and could herself vote, I’d still be ticked with her attempted tampering with democracy. Activists, or whatever they call themselves, should stick to FACTS and let people make their own decisions about voting once they are armed with these facts. IMO, you can highlight or interpret the facts for voters, bring the info to their attention, but you shouldn’t be telling adults how to vote or not. So, tweet away and tell Ms Klein to MYOB all you want. 😉

                • October 8, 2011 at 3:30 pm

                  Exactly… and its a lie.. when she says “voting doesn’t change things” – our history proves differently. I dont think anyone disagrees that $$$ buys power and it also buys support which translates to power in our politics.. thats why the lobbyists are so troubling- the oil companies, the huge corporations that get tax breaks and take their business overseas. Something we all know POTUS is trying to change.

                  But again, I think we cannot think in terms constantly of black & white, all or nothing behavior, its rather dysfunctional, imo. President Obama proved rather clearly that WE have power too.. the civil rights movement proved WE have power, the movement for Unions.. we have a short history in America, but it is one that proves we are capable of change, we are capable of improving.. and overthrowing our govt, refusing to vote- has never been a part of that change as far as I’ve learned.

                  • October 8, 2011 at 4:26 pm

                    IMO they — Klein — and others who tell people not to vote are tampering with our democracy. I agree it doesn’t matter where she’s from if she has this attitude, I love Canada as they are our great ally — but I don’t think I have a right to go to England and tell them what to think about their prime minister and tell them not to vote.

                    I’m sorry, do not come to this country and bash my president. We didn’t like it when Bibi did it or Iran. Why should we tolerate it from her just because she’s from Canada?

                    I’ve been cleaning house all day to channel my anger, but I’m going to send her a few more tweets later to let her know again, that she needs to mind her own business.

          • 72 carol in ky
            October 8, 2011 at 1:52 pm

            This is so sad to me. I was glad when Chris got his show, but now it’s just a big disappointment. I don’t even watch
            it after the first few shows. And from you say about today’s show, I’m glad I didn’t waste my time. If Chris continues
            to promote this anti-Obama agenda, I imagine his viewership will drop like a rock 😦

            • 73 chiara
              October 8, 2011 at 9:15 pm

              I disagree wholeheartedly. I have found his show to be pretty thoughtful. I don’t agree with all the guests of course and don’t agree with Chris all the time but I have found very few instances of him “bashing” the President or that he in any way has some crazy anti-Obama agenda. I am totally ok with people criticizing the President for one thing or another if they have something sound to back it up with and I find that Chris moderates pretty well.

              If you can think of anything off the top of your head that supports the anti-Obama agenda I’d like to hear it as maybe I’m just missing something.

          • 75 ChristiMtl
            October 8, 2011 at 4:33 pm

            I had no idea, I had to check it out. Naomi Klein has no business whatsoever telling Americans not to vote. What is her agenda? It only help the Republicans. Great prospect, a superpower run by hard right extremists in the 3 branches of gvt. It’s insane.

            Several thousand kilometres from the heart of the growing anti-Wall Street protests in New York, Kalle Lasn says he is astounded that an idea he and a few others hatched in Vancouver is now expanding across North America and beyond.

            “Of course, we had some hopes and dreams, but we had no idea it would turn into a movement in the United States, then into Canada, and become global,” said Mr. Lasn, co-editor of the influential, Vancouver-based, anti-consumer publication Adbusters, which first called for a people’s occupation of Wall Street.

            We just felt America was ripe for a Tahrir moment of its own,” said Mr. Lasn,

            The group conceived a centre spread in the magazine’s July edition, depicting a ballerina delicately balancing on the iconic Wall Street bull, with the words: “What is our one demand?….#OCCUPYWALLSTREET, September 17, Bring tent.”
            “We just did this thing and watched as it started to grow and grow,” Mr. Lasn marvelled. “Then some groups in New York got behind it. The buzz grew, and suddenly it took off, and now it’s a real movement.”

            The Occupy Wall Street movement will have a homecoming of sorts with protests scheduled for Oct. 15 in Toronto’s financial district, as well as other major Canadian cities, including Vancouver.

            Meanwhile, Lasn is relishing Adbusters’ role in sparking the movement.

            “This was all cooked up right here at Adbusters,” he said. “It’s a Canadian adventure.”

            • 76 utaustinliberal
              October 8, 2011 at 4:48 pm

              Thanks for this Christy. This was exactly what I was talking about. It got started by a corporation in Canada that preaches anti-consumerism. They have no concrete philosophy that people can get behind. They just wanted people to #OccupyWallStreet on September 17 and bring a tent. What are they fighting for? What do they want to see changed? What legal channels are they going to use to see that their demands are at least listened to? It’s all very convoluted and I for one am very very skeptical of the movement. How about while they’re protesting; they make sure they’re all registered to vote; so they can affect change at the ballot box and kick out the GOP Teabaggers who have very very very close ties to Wall Street.

              • 77 hopefruit2
                October 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm

                yet I would wager that 90% of the most vocal among the protesters are arch-consumers; They preach “anti-consumerism” but they AREN’T practicing it – they just get mad when they realize that certain folks now have access to the things that they once thought were exclusively their domain. I know that is true of Dylan Ratigan, who all of a sudden has a problem with Wall Street or money in politics simply because it has worked for the current WH resident, when he had no problems with it before. The President’s ability to fund raise has got some people MAD, real MAD..

                • October 8, 2011 at 5:19 pm

                  Yea funny how they’re selling anti-consumerism while selling their books~

                  And never realized what you just pointed out.. about the money, I can see exactly how those folks are suddenly up in arms about money in politics when POTUS raised a ton of money from people like us. All this: things that make ya go… hmmm.

          • October 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm

            I sent this particular segment to OFA’s attackwatch.com (@attackwatch):

            Up w/Chris Hayes’ “Obama & OWS”… http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44827181#44827181

            OFA/DNC & Co. can use all the “ammo” they can get to push/fight back against Prez’ known/unknown “enemies!”

            Have you “Gotten the Facts to Fight the Smear(s),” today and everyday? 😉 😆

            YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!
            YES.WE.CAN, Again…Obama/Biden 2012!
            PRESS ON!

          • 80 chiara
            October 8, 2011 at 9:10 pm

            When did she tell people not to vote? I watched it and didn’t see that.

            • 81 Chi
              October 9, 2011 at 2:14 am

              You’ve been given so many instances and sources and yet you persist in this strange defense of the indefensible…

              If it isn’t all offered here, then look it up…

              But enough of this attempt to downplay and excuse away the toxic acts of dubious PL heroes…

      • 82 nathkatun7
        October 8, 2011 at 5:36 pm

        Klein sells books that way! She can afford the luxury of not voting, but poor and middle class people cannot afford not to vote. It’s delusional to think that there is going to be a leftist revolution in America that’s comparable to the Arab spring.

    • 83 Obama Grandmama
      October 8, 2011 at 5:13 pm

      I should have taped Chris Hayes’ show, but was having company today and didn’t. Actually I live next door to my Mom and Brother. My other Brother and his family came to visit Mom and of course I go over too. He lives in MT so it is a two day trip to get here. He could be defined as a Red Neck I suppose as he is a hunter, fisherman, votes GOP and listens to Rush Limbaugh all the time. He is a rigid thinker and there is no way to make any in roads with him. Believe me I have tried. I have decided it is best to just stay civil and not discuss the typical religion, race or politics with him. He mentioned the stupid people on Wall St that were just jealous and wanted to be CEO’s making that much money themselves that they should just go out and get a job. Boy! It took all I had to just keep quiet as his wife joined in and my Mom went along with the talk too. By not saying anything it only lasted a minute. I felt like saying I would be out there with them and explain the reasoning but knew it would do no good. I talked my other brother who is a Ron Paul supporter and my Mom into voting for Obama in ’08. Not sure I will be able to this time around, but work on it daily with my Mom. It may work once Ron Paul is out of the race though. The Brother from MT is hopeless to change though. When I stand back and look at my family I am grateful I did not turn out that way too. But it worries me about how many others are like them.

    • 84 57andFemale
      October 8, 2011 at 7:35 pm

      Naomi Klein, who definitely has some good points to make, is and has always been blinded by purity. Unless anything and everything can be fixed to her standards of progressive purity, there is no point. I find that inexcusable for anyone with her obvious intelligence. But that is what populates the PL.

      • 85 N
        October 8, 2011 at 7:50 pm

        I get what you’re saying, but when it comes down to it, there’s nothing intelligent about not voting or encouraging people to remove themselves from the political process.

        Protests that can’t move VOTERS don’t win.

        • 86 Chi
          October 9, 2011 at 2:49 am

          Absolutely…

          For someone so intelligent, she clearly lacks vision, logic and foresight and is so caught up in her own self-importance and theoretical grand gestures and ideas of a utopian societal structure, she fails to see that any progress, including those successful historical phases or programs she touts, have come through hard work, false starts, compromise and in increments and over time…

          It occurs to me that many of these people I once identified so strongly with, are actually quite myopic, egotistic, self-aggrandizing, close-minded even as they revel in their own book-smarts, rigidity and rather telling childish tantrums, pettiness, vindictiveness…

          In trying to hold President Obama to their myopic and childish utopian expectations and standards, most have exposed their own fatal flaws and woeful shortcomings, and will certainly never recover from this…

          It is terrifying but quite a relief to have these false heroes and theoretical ‘intellectuals’ who have commanded the scene for so long with their best selling books and not much else, exposed for the frauds, immature, petty, destructive and retrogressive obstructionists they really are…

          They are not supporters of progress, but rather self-serving egoists who want to remain the center of attention and untested heroes even if it means disrupting any progress that could possibly be had and even undoing as much progress that’s been made and essentially setting us back…

          It’s really all about them and the books they get to sell as long as there is angst to be whipped up and exploited…

          It’s about relevance and the idea that they haven’t been consulted…they are after all serious and important legends in their own minds…

          These days anyone and everyone is an expert never mind that even for the smarter authors amongst them, their grand theories would fail so hard in a strongly divided and entrenched society where even they have been unable to win over even a marginal segment of society to their point of view…

  14. October 8, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Good Morning TOD family

    So happy to see the discussion of folks who are contacting Senators who need to support the bill.

    CALL TO ACTION – send me a note about what you have done this past week to support the President. Phone calls, email, tweets, hours spent volunteering, conversations with friends, neighbors and co-workers , snail mail of letters or postcards. This list goes on and on.

    We had 4 winners last week, I hope to have even more this week.

    my email is whatisworking@gmail.com

    The prizes are shown here

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/10/press-on-prizes-for-call-to-action.html

  15. October 8, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Although Congress is off our friends and neighbors are not. We can send them email or make phone calls asking them to support the American Jobs Act. Here is a repeat of a letter written by Jacqueline a few weeks ago, it is so good, we all need to be copying it and sending it to folks we know.

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/09/letter-american-jobs-act-family-and.html

    Thanks Jacqueline

  16. October 8, 2011 at 11:09 am

    The Whitehouse has been gathering support for the bill from Mayors across the country. Chick out this list of articles in support of the bill and see if there are some that will work in your community.

    http://www.whatisworking.com/search/label/american-jobs-bill

  17. October 8, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Finally – every state has a web page describing how the American Jobs Act will help that state.

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/09/american-jobs-act-impact-by-state.html

      • 94 HZ
        October 8, 2011 at 5:45 pm

        Thank you WIW also. I have been reading and going down the line and writing e mails. Some I can get in to e mail, and then others, I can’t. However, I will write to the ones that I can get into. Thanks for your list and information.HZ

        I am taking the pain and giving it hell(excuse me) with my energy to write and go on Twitter. I also ask for the Senators and Representatives to tell me why they will vote and why not on AJA ? Love you all back so much.

        Where they(MSM and others) try to get us off topic, we take the information posted here and ‘put our fingers to work’ as Tally says many times. Let them dance all over these keys. Dance fingers, Dance fingers!!! We Have Your Back, Mr. President!!! Press On!!! HZ

  18. 95 Fred
    October 8, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Oy vey 😯 🙄

    Major League Baseball Prevented Another 9/11, Says Value Voters Speaker Bryan Fischer

    Bryan Fischer of the conservative Christian group the American Family Association floated an interesting theory about why there hasn’t been a “Muslim attack” since Sept. 11 during his speech before the Values Voter Summit on Saturday.

    “By God’s blessing, we have not been hit by a Muslim attack since 9/11,” Fischer said. “I suggest that in part, we have Major League Baseball to thank. You remember that the week after 9/11 Major League Baseball converted the seventh inning stretch from the singing of ‘Take Me Out To The Ballgame’ to the singing of ‘God Bless America.'”

    “Now ‘God Bless America’ is not just a song, it is a prayer. When we sing that we are inviting God to bless America, to stand beside her and to guide her through the night with a light from above,” Fischer said.

    “So for one brief, shining moment every night, Major League Baseball has converted our stadiums into cathedrals in which tens of thousands of ordinary Americans lift their hearts and voices as one and ask God to watch over and protect the United States,” Fischer said.

    “Ladies and gentleman, I think that those prayers have been heard and they have been answered,” Fischer said.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/fischer_mlb_fans_singing_god_bless_america_during_7th_inning_stretch_have_prevented_another_911.php

  19. 103 gcwp1
    October 8, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Hysterical! Bryan has obviously not been to a MLB game. By seventh inning stretch, many of the fans could be singing “I’m a Little Spider” for all they know.

    GET YOUR COLD BEERS HE-AH!!!

  20. 104 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    October 8, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    I am going to email Maxine Waters and the CBC and tell them that I want to see them on tv talking about this the same way they went after the President. We have to educate the people as to what the Republicans are doing. 😡 Obama/Biden 2012!!

    • 105 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      October 8, 2011 at 12:45 pm

      Sorry copy and pasted someone elses post. OOOPS! 😳

    • 106 N
      October 8, 2011 at 7:51 pm

      that’s ok. they need to hear from supporters of the president and people need to ask people like Waters… what are your accomplishments in Congress? What are you doing to convince people to vote for the AJA?

  21. 107 purpleshoesla
    October 8, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Hi TOD folks. Big time lurker here. Stumbled upon you through Randi Rhodes radio show forum a couple of months back and haven’t missed a day since! i love this website, gets me fired up every day, so thank you for the motivation and the information!! I “de-lurked” to say that I am in Los Angeles and have been watching the occupy movements here and in NY and other citiies on the Net this week with a mixture of skepticism, curiousity and a little bit of hope. Little by little this week i felt my feeilings of solidarity were starting to growand I thought about lending some support this weekend in LA until I saw that yesterday Cornel West and Tavis Smiley had been marching with the OccupyLA group and making several speeches to the masses down in City Hall. That coupled with reading about Naomi Klein’s troubling comments and John Lewis being denied time to speak in OccupyGA, has raised my “Danger Will Robinson” signals and my skepticism is back full throttle about the real agenda here.with the Occupymovement. I’m rambling.. sorry! I really just came on here to say keep up the good work, thanks for your tireless efforts and I’m off to contact my representatives again to get off the dime, do their dang jobs and pass the jobs bill. In the words of our illustrious Prez.. ENOUGH!!! Peace! 🙂

    • 108 COS
      October 8, 2011 at 1:03 pm

      Purpleshoe, I share your feelings. I am here in SoCal also.I heard that Olberman had Tavis smiley and West on his show yesterday, which was the perfect forum. He has been asking where is the White House in all of this?

      • 109 57andFemale
        October 8, 2011 at 7:38 pm

        I clicked on Keith, with Tavis and Cornel looking like they were ready to pounce and I clicked away — fast.

    • 110 jacquelineoboomer
      October 8, 2011 at 1:15 pm

      Thanks for the news from on the ground in LA! Glad you posted.

    • 111 gcwp1
      October 8, 2011 at 1:36 pm

      I understand many were impressed by the speaker in the video. He may have consistent opinions as we do about Wall Street, but I “knew” him on DK. He is anti-Obama, and allied with the PL.

      • October 8, 2011 at 2:11 pm

        If you’re talking about Jesse LaGreca aka Ministry of Truth, then it is not true that he is anti-Obama. He’s always been a defender of the President. His signature at Daily Kos reads something like “Bashing Obama is the only thing republicans are good at.” 🙂

        • 113 gcwp1
          October 8, 2011 at 2:47 pm

          Thank you – must be thinking of someone else.Or same person, different subject. I was certain my memory was accurate, but it has been awhile.

    • 114 Fred
      October 8, 2011 at 2:17 pm

      welcome Purple and don’t be a stranger no more

    • October 8, 2011 at 7:58 pm

      Well put. Over all I think that protesting against inequality is a good thing but going after folks who are on their side is definitely a danger signal.There are those who want to cause trouble and stir up anger against the Pres.

  22. 116 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    October 8, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    The MSM on President Obama’s poll numbers are designed to follow a certain narrative so the GOP can steal the election. IF PBO is continuing in the low 40′s into 2012 then they can justify a surprise GOP victory in Nov. of 2012. 😡

    • 117 Mel
      October 8, 2011 at 1:20 pm

      No, No,NO that will will never happen The MSM will lie all the way like they did in 2008 remember?, so we
      have to focus in what we are doing and not worried about the MSM are saying they are in the business of
      lying to the American people so do not buy their B>S.

    • 118 utaustinliberal
      October 8, 2011 at 1:35 pm

      His poll numbers ae at 43%. That’s higher than Reagan, Bush Senior, and Clinton at this point in their presidencies. So stop focusing on their lies and keep your eye on the goal prize. Those poll numbers go up and down like a freaking yo-yo. Frankly, I couldn’t care less.

      • October 8, 2011 at 5:58 pm

        Thank you UT. Frankly, at this point, I do not give a darn. We have too much work to help POB to get done beside reading the MSM and others poll number. President Obama has his own pollsters. AND when POB began to worry about his polls numbers, that is when I WILL get worried. Until then, I will keep doing what I can to further his agenda to win this thing and most of all put people back to WORK. Let us PRESSON now.HZ

      • October 8, 2011 at 7:59 pm

        And compared with Congress. his numbers are high.

    • 121 gcwp1
      October 8, 2011 at 1:41 pm

      By nature I’m a glass half empty type, but I’m working on reversing that. I hope you can too.

    • October 8, 2011 at 3:26 pm

      First, these kinds of poll numbers are normal this far out. The president gets universally hostile press and the R’s have been pouring on the venom. Plus most people are not paying attention to thinking about this November, not next November.

      Second, it’s actually good for the R’s to get complacent. If they feel seriously threatened they won’t hesitate to institute more draconian voter suppression techniques and try to emulate Pennsylvania’s proposed electoral college vote rigging. In an ideal world, everything we do would happen under the radar while the media is focused elsewhere (OWS) and the R’s overplay their sorry hand.
      Start building the armies of volunteers and be ready for action.

  23. 125 JoJothecat
    October 8, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    If the OWS(name city) folks do not turn this into a political movement against the GOP/TP and get behind the DEMS this is just a waste of time! I will work for OFA to get DEMs elected to put a hurt on Wall Street because the GOTP are their protectors. We need to get candidates who are DEMs with the values that are for the people who want to get money OUT of politics. If they want to run a OWS candidate, do it, but don’t just march, sit-in, and NOT VOTE!

    • 126 Debz
      October 8, 2011 at 1:24 pm

      They should be protesting on the steps of the Capitol bldg instead of on Wall Street. I have had my doubts about this OWS from the start. They have no mission, what is their end game? They have allowed diverse groups to take over the narrative. Everyone from Paulites to Naomi Klien, to tea party folks are out there telling us what the mission is. When voting rights and woman’s rights are being taken away by state governments, why are these people protesting Wall street? There are very serious problems in this country and it is Congress and states who need to feel the heat.

      • 127 COS
        October 8, 2011 at 1:41 pm

        I heard this organizer of OWS(DC) say that they did not want their narrative to be taken over by Democrats or Republicans. He was concerned that the PL would join the protestors and he did not want that. He basically said that they were not for either payrty, but in the same breath he bashed PBO and complained about what he had not done. It left me a little puzzled. I will continue making phone calls, emailing and doing what I can do to GOTV,

        • 128 Debz
          October 8, 2011 at 1:51 pm

          I just watched the video of these idiots refusing to let Rep Lewis speak. i have never seen anything so disgusting in my life!! I will also be continuing to make phone calls and doing what I can about GOTV. These people are drowning out PBO’s message about jobs, and we all need to help him get his message out to our neighbors.

          • 129 EDP4BHO
            October 8, 2011 at 2:57 pm

            Does anyone here find it strange that these protests came together just around the time PBO announced at his address to congress that he will take his fight to the people if they did not get on board with creating jobs? Maybe it’s just my natural intense skepticism, but could it be that Koch-roaches instituted this teaparty-like string of events just to deflect from the message on creating jobs? It sounds like a narrow psychological bent but strategy can look a lot like opposing views, with the main intent on re-directing attention.

            • 130 hopefruit2
              October 8, 2011 at 3:53 pm

              I too have been a little more than curious that this OWS seems to have erupted right after the President announced his jobs plan. Furthermore, I don’t know whether others have noticed but I’ve seen virtually NO CONDEMNATION of the Koch brothers by of the protesters, speakers, or pundits who are following/endorsing these protests. The anger seems to be targeted more towards the bank/bailouts which just coincidentally provides a conveniently easy route to blaming the President for bailing them out (which eerily resembles the focus of the so-called Tea-Party movement). Yet the Koch brothers are one of the most egregious examples of money in politics, and no one seems to have any issues with them?

              • 131 EDP4BHO
                October 8, 2011 at 4:10 pm

                So glad to see some have the same skepticism because it makes no sense in hell one can be “against” Wall St. and not be “for” jobs. Otherwise, what the hell are they protesting, and why not side with the only person fighting for the integrity of everyday citizens? It’s just too damn incongruous to make much sense in this climate of unemployment and hardship. Seems everybody wants to be the leader of something, but not give kudos to the one who woke everybody up, and that is our President. I call bullshit on them, on whole.

              • October 8, 2011 at 4:49 pm

                Yes indeed, lots of questions & skepticism from many I think.

              • October 8, 2011 at 5:02 pm

                i too am wondering. i’m reminded of small ahips scurrying around laying down a smoke screen to hide movement of larger ships. What we have is a mutiny against……….? Something tells me smoke which means diversion!

            • October 8, 2011 at 3:55 pm

              Not at all. I share your same skepticism. Refusing to let John Lewis speak has really cooked it for me and I despise Naomi Klein and Smiley/West.

              • 136 EDP4BHO
                October 8, 2011 at 4:15 pm

                And there’s the rub, aquagranny. No way a sincere effort at healing the nation could in any way forbid the participation of an icon who’s lived hardship and derision. These punks are just that……gratuitous, egotistical punks. That’s my opinion until I see otherwise.

                • 137 jacquelineoboomer
                  October 8, 2011 at 5:20 pm

                  I’m thinking many of the players wouldn’t know an icon if it bit ’em in the face. That was despicable.

          • October 8, 2011 at 4:05 pm

            Honestly, I think if we’re confused about what OWS stands for, you can bet that ordinary, non-political people don’t get it either. Therefore, I don’t think these guys are drowning out the jobs message because what the president is saying is specific, actionable and crystal clear. People need jobs; he’s got a way to create them; Congress is standing in the way. All of this repeated over and over again in simple and vivid language that people can easily grasp. You will note that the president has managed to turn the entire national conversation and the focus of Congress on jobs, not the deficit, in the last several weeks. When R’s try to bring the subject back to the deficit they seem out of step like people who just don’t get where the action is. PBO is controlling the message and the R’s are on the defensive.

            Whatever the OWS represent, they are somehow unnerving the R’s because they didn’t write this element into their script and can’t control it. And that’s a very good thing. When Loudmouth Rush tells his listeners that “Obama” is behind the Wall Street activists, he’s saying he’s scared of them and that’s an even better thing.

            • October 8, 2011 at 4:46 pm

              Excellent excellent points Jackie.. so wise to point out that POTUS has indeed been the message changer and to remind us that not only has he changed the national narrative but he has a real concrete plan~ and continues to give all of us ways to help spread the message and keep the pressure on the republicans.

              • October 8, 2011 at 6:24 pm

                It will be interesting to see if this OWS noise will drown out the protestations coming from the floor of the Senate. That should tell us something. I kinda thought the “nuclear” whats-is would have gotten more coverage than it has. IMHO.

    • October 8, 2011 at 3:28 pm

      You’re right. These people are peripheral to the game. Let the media focus on them. The OFA is where the action is and each one of us is an action player.

  24. October 8, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    This is a couple days old, but I haven’t seen it linked here before. If so, sorry for the duplication. This is a great op-ed from an Iraq Vet comparing President Obama’s foreign policy with Romney’s all-over-the-map foreign policy: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65385.html

    • 146 Fred
      October 8, 2011 at 2:21 pm

      thanks for this Tien because I hadn’t read this before.Duckworth used to work for the President and is currently campaigning in our State of Illinois if you want to know more about it.Terrific lady and patriot who I hope wins

  25. 148 Fred
    October 8, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Religious Right Hoping to Exploit Hispanic Frustration with Obama

    Even before the opening bell at the Values Voter Summit, the Liberty Counsel hosted a breakfast on messaging and outreach to Hispanic Americans. Liberty Counsel’s Mat Staver shared the stage with Tony Calatayud, a Miami-based activist who works for the Spanish language arm of Christian radio Salem Communications. Calatayud, who helped Marco Rubio get elected to the U.S. Senate from Florida, now travels the country helping to identify and support conservative Hispanic candidates with the group Conservadores.
    Staver said that Hispanic unhappiness with Barack Obama is “a really good thing going into 2012.” Calatayud agreed. The growing Hispanic community could be a huge electoral force for conservatives, he said, if only Republicans would stop alienating Hispanic voters with “idiotic” anti-immigrant rhetoric. He said “the Hispanic evangelical movement in this country is exploding” and said repeatedly that Hispanics are “conservative in nature” and share the Religious Right’s values on social issues. Polls suggest, in fact, that Latinos are pro-LGBT equality, but also that Latino evangelicals are more politically conservative than Latino Catholics.

    Calatayud argued that conservative leaders need to make a “covenant” with “Kingdom-minded” Latino leaders and support an approach to immigration that includes four points: border security first; family reunification; a guest worker program; and “just integration” (a term he attributed to Sam Rodriguez) of the 12-15 million undocumented people already in the country. Calatayud said he didn’t want to hear the word “amnesty” ever again; he and Staver complained about Republicans who use the word “amnesty” to describe anything short of mass deportation. Calatayud got a polite but quiet hearing from the audience for his presentation on immigration; the only applause came when, in response to a question, he affirmed his belief that everyone must learn English.

    Calatayud also insisted that the eventual Republican candidate must build a “covenant” relationship with Latino evangelical pastors and devote real money to campaign outreach. He said he had hoped Marco Rubio would run this time around; he predicts Rubio will not accept a VP slot this year, but believes he will be the GOP nominee in 2016 or 2020.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/religious-right-hoping-exploit-hispanic-frustration-obama

    • 149 Linda
      October 8, 2011 at 2:50 pm

      Hispanics will not vote for Republicans….look what they just did in Alabama….Now it is illegal to drink water ..

      Alabama Law Makes It A Felony For Undocumented Immigrants To Have Water At Their Homes

      http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/10/07/339067/alabama-illegal-to-live-undocumented/

      • October 8, 2011 at 3:42 pm

        Alabama has gone flip out crazy! Latinos won’t vote for Repugnants but they also just may not vote at all which is why we really need to mount strong GOTV in our communities.

      • October 8, 2011 at 3:44 pm

        Amen. These guys make me laugh. They vilify and insult Hispanics for years; cut funding for every conceivable program that helps them, make fun of people of color, disparage their language and then think they can waltz in and win their support. I know a lot of committed Latino Christians and they put a”value” on charity, social justice and helping people, not just on wedge issues like abortion. Family is important and so are programs that help families. You don’t champion a dog eat dog society as R’s do, cut off water to thirsty people, try to take away their children’s right to full citizenship and education and then expect people to follow you. In a way, this is the greatest insult of all because it underestimates the intelligence of Hispanics/Latinos. The think all they have to do is pretty up a few words and the Hispanics won’t see through to their ugly bigoted hearts. Yes, Latinos across the country will look at Mitt Romney and say –Oh yes, he’s one of us. Good luck with that.

      • October 8, 2011 at 5:26 pm

        It’s a Felony! That’s a cruel and draconian measure that is proof positive how inhumane these republicons are. And, the OWStreeters aren’t protesting any particular party?

        While the President is out trying to get a JOBS BILL PASSED? What are they, stupid?

        I know that’s simplifying it..’cause there’s much much more evidence. Sure, there’s some Dems who need protesting but when you look at the whole picture it’s very difficult not to see who needs to be be gone from our government so these people will have jobs and what could really change the power structure.

  26. October 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    I’m will be happy to see Rev Al.s march next week, becasue he will be taking the People’s message to Washington right at the doorsteps of Congress.

    I can’t see where OWS is heading, so my opinions are mixed. People like Rev AL, who are battle tested are needed in times such as these to add some clarity to the argument. He proved in the panel discussion last night, the man knows his stuff.

    • October 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm

      That should say I’ll be happy…sorry for the word salad at the beginning.

    • 159 gcwp1
      October 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm

      Ah, now that is one I could support. I finally had a chance to watch some cable last week. ADORED him!

      • October 8, 2011 at 2:55 pm

        Next week we will see what true “Activism” looks like.

        I will be sure to tweet all the PL armchair activists that this is coordinated activism by definition, and hopefully the protesters of OWS will take note.

  27. 161 vero804
    October 8, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Ron Paul, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum. Those are the top 3 winners in the Value Voters Straw Poll. The Republcans are so strange right now, it’s funny but scary as well.

    • 162 Desraye
      October 8, 2011 at 3:28 pm

      Yea, I was laughing when I seen the results. The GOP has completely been taken over by crazies.

    • October 8, 2011 at 3:52 pm

      Says all you need to know. There is not one of them who has a empathetic bone in his body or has spent one second of his life thinking about how he can actually help people in need or make the lives of ordinary Americans better. Little Ricky Santorum was my senator and a creepier person I have yet to meet. They truly scraped the bottom of the barrel for this bunch.

    • October 8, 2011 at 5:16 pm

      These straw votes are turning out to be anybody but Romney votes.

  28. October 8, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Something else fishy about OWS. Not only did it start in Canada, but this group had a newspaper, food and a lot of other stuff an organic, grass roots group wouldn’t have.

    • 166 utaustinliberal
      October 8, 2011 at 5:12 pm

      Exactly Proud. I was watching the news the other day and they had a segment that highlighted the company where Occupy Wall Street began. It began in Canda, they aren’t a grassroots organization but a company that puts out publication decrying consumerism and preaching anti-consumerism. When they interviewed the people behind the company, they had no concrete honest philosophy. They just told people to Occupy Wall Street on September 17 and bring a tent. Christi found the interview:

      Several thousand kilometres from the heart of the growing anti-Wall Street protests in New York, Kalle Lasn says he is astounded that an idea he and a few others hatched in Vancouver is now expanding across North America and beyond.

      “Of course, we had some hopes and dreams, but we had no idea it would turn into a movement in the United States, then into Canada, and become global,” said Mr. Lasn, co-editor of the influential, Vancouver-based, anti-consumer publication Adbusters, which first called for a people’s occupation of Wall Street.

      We just felt America was ripe for a Tahrir moment of its own,” said Mr. Lasn,

      The group conceived a centre spread in the magazine’s July edition, depicting a ballerina delicately balancing on the iconic Wall Street bull, with the words: “What is our one demand?….#OCCUPYWALLSTREET, September 17, Bring tent.”
      “We just did this thing and watched as it started to grow and grow,” Mr. Lasn marvelled. “Then some groups in New York got behind it. The buzz grew, and suddenly it took off, and now it’s a real movement.”

      The Occupy Wall Street movement will have a homecoming of sorts with protests scheduled for Oct. 15 in Toronto’s financial district, as well as other major Canadian cities, including Vancouver.

      Meanwhile, Lasn is relishing Adbusters’ role in sparking the movement.

      “This was all cooked up right here at Adbusters,” he said. “It’s a Canadian adventure.”

      See what I mean? My question is this : What are they fighting for? What do they want to see changed? What legal channels are they going to use to see that their demands are at least listened to? It’s all very convoluted and I for one am very very skeptical of the movement. How about while they’re protesting; they make sure they’re all registered to vote; so they can affect change at the ballot box and kick out the GOP Teabaggers who have very very very close ties to Wall Street.

      • 167 ChristiMtl
        October 8, 2011 at 6:14 pm

        I went directly to their website: Adbusters,….here it is

        Alright you 90,000 redeemers, rebels and radicals out there,

        A worldwide shift in revolutionary tactics is underway right now that bodes well for the future. The spirit of this fresh tactic, a fusion of Tahrir with the acampadas of Spain, is captured in this quote:

        “The antiglobalization movement was the first step on the road. Back then our model was to attack the system like a pack of wolves. There was an alpha male, a wolf who led the pack, and those who followed behind. Now the model has evolved. Today we are one big swarm of people.”

        — Raimundo Viejo, Pompeu Fabra University
        Barcelona, Spain

        The beauty of this new formula, and what makes this novel tactic exciting, is its pragmatic simplicity: we talk to each other in various physical gatherings and virtual people’s assemblies … we zero in on what our one demand will be, a demand that awakens the imagination and, if achieved, would propel us toward the radical democracy of the future … and then we go out and seize a square of singular symbolic significance and put our asses on the line to make it happen.

        The time has come to deploy this emerging stratagem against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America.

        On September 17, we want to see 20,000 people flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street for a few months. Once there, we shall incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices.

        Tahrir succeeded in large part because the people of Egypt made a straightforward ultimatum – that Mubarak must go – over and over again until they won. Following this model, what is our equally uncomplicated demand?

        The most exciting candidate that we’ve heard so far is one that gets at the core of why the American political establishment is currently unworthy of being called a democracy: we demand that Barack Obama ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington. It’s time for DEMOCRACY NOT CORPORATOCRACY, we’re doomed without it.

        This demand seems to capture the current national mood because cleaning up corruption in Washington is something all Americans, right and left, yearn for and can stand behind. If we hang in there, 20,000-strong, week after week against every police and National Guard effort to expel us from Wall Street, it would be impossible for Obama to ignore us. Our government would be forced to choose publicly between the will of the people and the lucre of the corporations.

        This could be the beginning of a whole new social dynamic in America, a step beyond the Tea Party movement, where, instead of being caught helpless by the current power structure, we the people start getting what we want whether it be the dismantling of half the 1,000 military bases America has around the world to the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act or a three strikes and you’re out law for corporate criminals. Beginning from one simple demand – a presidential commission to separate money from politics – we start setting the agenda for a new America.

        Post a comment and help each other zero in on what our one demand will be. And then let’s screw up our courage, pack our tents and head to Wall Street with a vengeance September 17

        • 168 utaustinliberal
          October 8, 2011 at 6:33 pm

          Thanks Christi. Love my Candians; but WTF is wrong with these Ad Busters people? They have nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with the American Government. The guy from Spain… WTF? This just pisses me off :

          “The most exciting candidate that we’ve heard so far is one that gets at the core of why the American political establishment is currently unworthy of being called a democracy: we demand that Barack Obama ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington. It’s time for DEMOCRACY NOT CORPORATOCRACY, we’re doomed without it.”

          Really??? We demand? All the way from Spain and Canada? What do they think Dodd-Frank Financial reform was. To make sure that the fat cats don’t cause another financial meltdown like they did in 07. How about they yell and demand that republicans in congress stop trying to roll back and defund provisions in Dodd-Frank? How about they understand that it was the courts that made Citizens United the law of the land and if they want to bitch about it; how about they march right up to the Supreme Court and yell at them? Or why don’t they find legal channels that can make Citizens United go back through the channels of the judicial system so it can be struck down? How about they go to Congress and demand that congress come up with a bill that enforces stricter, fairer, and more honest campaign finance laws? Nooooo all they do is make use of 21st century technology that was obtained through capitalism; which they hypocritically despise and hypocritically preach anti-consumerism. How about they encourage people to vote and register people to vote so come 2012 they can kick the GOP Teabaggers out of congress thereby halting their agenda of stopping progress. Then they have the audacity to demand OUR President should query how high when they nastily tell him to jump. This makes the whole #OWS movement even more suspicious. It’s pretty much about bashing and undermining President Obama and frankly, if that’s all there is to it; they can all collectively kiss my ass.

          • 169 hopefruit2
            October 8, 2011 at 7:14 pm

            Just as I thought…it’s some nonsense they want to drag the President into…they can’t just let him be and govern the country..they have to find a reason to keep moving the goalposts…to give him an impossible feat so that if he doesn’t do it, they will have a reason/excuse to tell folks to not vote for him in 2012..it makes sense, doesn’t it?

            Where is the pressure on the Repubs in all of this? What about the Dems in congress? President Obama just nominated someone to regulate the consumer protections bureau to prevent some of the same Wall Street Abuses these fools claim to be concerned about. Yet the Repubs are planning to block this nominee. Where is the pressure and the “demands” on those Repubs in congress?!?!?

          • October 8, 2011 at 7:18 pm

            Could not have said it better, UT. I say again: how dare they demand anything of our US President! Take care of your country. Make demands of your leadership.

            I swear for people who are supposed to be smart, Chris Hayes, etc, progressives sure are bunch of stupid idiots to fall for this garbage. Our president is so smart and wise. You think he hasn’t had his staff check these fools out? He’s not going to just align himself with any group of protesters. Yes, this is designed to undermine our President. Why has the PL been so darn quick to throw the President into this and demand that he come and march, blah blah. SOBs have my blood boiling. They think we’re stupid and that they can threaten and bully the President. People like Klein, and Chris who gave her the platform today, can jump in the lake. I don’t care what happens to them.

        • 173 hopefruit2
          October 8, 2011 at 7:19 pm

          Christi could you please provide a link to the site? I would like to take a further look – I think these people need to be exposed once and for all. I refuse to allow our President to be destroyed by these virtual lynch mobs that pretend to be about “equality” or whatever nonsense they claim to want – when their overriding agenda is to force this President to be their token puppet while giving all other politicians as well as the actual Fat Cats on Wall Street a pass.

          • 174 ChristiMtl
            October 8, 2011 at 7:25 pm

            http://www.adbusters.org/

            I never head of them before today.

            Here in wiki:

            Adbusters Media Foundation is a not-for-profit, anti-consumerist, pro-environment[1] organization founded in 1989 by Kalle Lasn and Bill Schmalz in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The foundation describes itself as “a global network of artists, activists, writers, pranksters, students, educators and entrepreneurs who want to advance the new social activist movement of the information age.”[2]

            The Adbusters Media Foundation publishes the reader-supported, advertising-free Adbusters, an activist magazine with an international circulation of 120,000[3] devoted to challenging consumerism. Notable past and present contributors to the magazine include Christopher Hedges, Matt Taibbi, Bill McKibben, Jim Munroe, Douglas Rushkoff, Jonathan Barnbrook, David Graeber and others.

            Adbusters has launched numerous international campaigns, including Buy Nothing Day, TV Turnoff Week and Occupy Wall Street, and is known for their “subvertisements” that spoof popular advertisements.

            In English, Adbusters has bi-monthly North American, Australian, and International editions of each issue. Adbusters’ sister organizations include Résistance à l’Aggression Publicitaire[4] and Casseurs de Pub[5] in France, Adbusters Norge in Norway, Adbusters Sverige in Sweden and Culture Jammers in Japan.[6][7]

            • 175 hopefruit2
              October 8, 2011 at 8:53 pm

              Thanks Christi. Not surprisingly Matt Taibbi is a contributor to their magazine. He has been very critical of the President. Interestingly, why don’t they have a Turn off the cable news week?

        • 176 EDP4BHO
          October 8, 2011 at 8:24 pm

          I have one main observation which tells me, again, they are full of shit. Not once in the paragraphs is our President addressed as President Barack Obama. So here we have a bunch of “white boys” trying to school a “black boy” on how to govern. They can all kiss my black ass. They have nothing and their stupid movement is going nowhere because this is not what ordinary Americans care about. Watch the shit fizzle into thin air once everybody realizes they are a bunch of egomaniacs looking for notoriety. And if I offend anyone by my language, well, I’ve had it with the disrespect, okay?

          • 177 hopefruit2
            October 8, 2011 at 8:50 pm

            This is disgraceful: Tweets from Keith Olbermann yesterday:

            // u need to talk POTUS into standing the F up about Wall Street //

            //POTUS needs to embrace OWS. If not, he’ll have nobody to blame but himself. //

  29. 181 Kasai
    October 8, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    PRESS ON…We in so cali are pressing on taking to the street!!! What a day!!…We have many excited even in this red state.
    Just got back from Farmer’s Market..Passed out hundred’s of flyers.
    My message was simple and clear. You want a job? Pass this Bill…You want Health Care Vote Obama. You want your kids to have a good education? Pass this Bill…and every time I saw a senior…You want your SS checks to keep coming? Vote Obama. I kept on with the message based on the individual…For the young ones and students? You want to stay on your parents health care till you 26? Vote Obama.
    It WAS A GOOD DAY:-)

    It was great fun…even disputing all the R/W lies….Folks we’re on the move here on the ground, but I am also aware what’s going with OW protest, I’ve tweeted Van Jones: and gave him a piece of my mind:

    #There’s No AmericanDream,w/out a job,voter supression, which Repubs R trying 2 take away,We stand with PBO b/c He stands for us @VanJones68

    @VanJones Civil Rights Movement stood for something, and didn’t have to follow a Teaparty model.Learn what’s right..Stand for something.

    @VanJones:When U at War Soldiers have a target,UR target should B Repubs 4 not helping the Middle Class:Isn’t that what PBO is fighting for?

    Fight ON. PRESS ON….Tod’s Family…..Keep Hope Alive!!!!! Were’ on the Move!!!!

    ((Hugs))

  30. 185 Kasai
    October 8, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Just as when Pres.Obama ask 4 public’s help 2 call on congress 2 pass Job Bill, We see MMoore,Cornell organizing4#WallStreet.Coincidence??

  31. October 8, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Don’t give these guys any oxygen. Keep calling Congress, keep urging friends and neighbors to do so. We will keep on pressing on long after these guys get tired of standing in the cold.

    • October 8, 2011 at 7:43 pm

      Just as POB asked us to do, lets just do it. Thanks Kasai and all who hit the streets today. To all who maade calls, did twits, emails, etc., thank you. I just laid here and I read how the AJA would affect each state, so I went on and did my twitter for all 50 states and pleaded for help for all of our fellow Americans who need to get back to work. Call Sen. and Rep. Help the people who need to get a job. I hope we will help someone today.

      Now, on to see what else I can do from this bed of pain. Do not worry, I know how to fight the troubles of the world. I’ve been here a longtime. Do something good. Do not wait for it to come back, just put it out on the waters, God and the beautiful spirits of our hearts will take it where it needs to go and your angels of blessings will turn up someday and somewhere when you least expect. Just try to put some goodness back into the world. We Can Do This. I love you all.HZ

      • 188 Kasai
        October 8, 2011 at 8:41 pm

        HZ….hope you feeling better today…Thanks for all you do even If you can’t get out there..I am marching on for you and all others…that keep me inspired, as you always do HZ ..We’re are pressing on here with boots on the ground, making sure that PBO Job bill is passed as soon as possible.You might not see me here as much..but rest assured that we are fighting to make sure PBO is re-elected…and am thinking of you and all my Tod’s family here.
        (Hugs) and much Love HZ.

        • October 8, 2011 at 8:51 pm

          I love you back,Kasai. I just left Twitter as well. I appreciate everything you are doing. Remember I am a strong fiesty senior. Not too much can keep me down too long. Even when I am in pain, God still gives me strength that I ask for each opportunity to do something worthwhile and good for all.

          I feet will be on the ground next week grace willing. We are fighting for what is right, and when you know that in your heart, all things will work out for goodness in the human spirit. We have sweet but fire in our spirits. So we Press On!! Love you all.HZ

  32. October 8, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Chris Hayes is catching it on twitter for giving that Naomi Klein the platform to diss our president and for sitting there like a bump on a log and not defending the President.

    • 191 COS
      October 8, 2011 at 8:27 pm

      Each time I have seen or heard Naomi Klein, she has never said anything positive about PBO.

      • October 8, 2011 at 9:35 pm

        She hated him when he was ruunning. We need to out her on twitter. What is a canadian doing with our politics? Maybe she is spy for the Canadian GOP government. Remember how they tried to sabotage President O with goolsebe.

        • 193 Chi
          October 9, 2011 at 3:58 am

          You would think that Naomi Klein would be hard at work in Canada destabilizing their GOP government which slipped back in comfortably after winning re- election handily…

          Charity ought to begin a home Ms. Klein…

          Heal thy country first Naomi…

    • 194 ChristiMtl
      October 8, 2011 at 10:01 pm

      I hope so!!

      • 195 ChristiMtl
        October 8, 2011 at 10:03 pm

        I can’t watch his show, who need Fox News when you have MSNBC

        • 196 Chi
          October 9, 2011 at 4:09 am

          Chris Hayes hides behind the fact that his wife works for the administration…

          I’m really beginning to wonder about some of these opportunists who hitched their wagon to President Obama’s success…

          Are people like Chris and his wife by extension, so strapped for cash and so lacking in integrity and loyalty they are so willing to sabotage the sanest and most progressive presidency this country will see in a long time…

          Filling the airwaves with these immature, easily co-opted for money types like Hayes is a sad trend and does a great disservice to the American people…

          It’s even more ironic that these bought and paid for weaklings have a nerve as they sit on their corporate perches railing against President Obama…

          I hope they all have back-up career plans because they will all be dispensed of in no time…

  33. 197 N
    October 8, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    i’m sympathetic to Occupy Wall Street but at the end of the day, voters contacting their members of Congress and voting is what’s going to move legislation and change policy. And having the large number of voters to move those members of Congress… that requires voter registration and GOTV.

    And other than some of the labor unions, I can’t say I’m optimistic many of the Occupy Wall Street will follow up on the protesting and do the organizing necessary to get the change they seek.

  34. October 8, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    People need to remember the t-party was effective because they voted in 2010. Democrats, liberals, progressives did not.

    • 199 N
      October 8, 2011 at 7:54 pm

      “People need to remember the t-party was effective because they voted in 2010.”

      YUP

    • 200 nintendowii10
      October 8, 2011 at 8:07 pm

      Also, the professional left said that President Obama and the Democrats sucked and weren’t left wing enough, which led to the defeat of many Blue Dog Democrats that ended up being replaced by Teabag Republicans.

      FWIW, Blue Dogs vote on our side 60-70% of the time, and the other 40-30%, they vote for their constituents, who are conservative and a little right of center. The professional left thought that primarying blue dogs was a smart strategy when it is in fact one of the most politically tone deaf strategies out there.

      If the professional left had shut up and supported ALL Democrats, whether they were left wing or conservative, the Democrats would still hold the House, there would be less Republicans in the Senate, and we wouldn’t have to deal with Governor Koch Walker, Kaysick, and Lord Voldemort Scott. We need to continue to attack the professional left everytime they attack centrist Democrats and the President, and if the PL whines, well TOO BAD!

      • October 8, 2011 at 8:37 pm

        If I many suggest, post this on every left blog you can. For some reason, many just don’t seem to get this.

      • 202 COS
        October 8, 2011 at 8:38 pm

        I just saw the video upthread of where Congressman Lewis was not allowed to speak. My heart skipped a beat and I felt really bad for him.

      • 204 anniebella
        October 9, 2011 at 8:09 am

        Excuse me but aren’t we getting after the Republicans for being so extereme, that they have move so far to the right, that they refuse to compromise. Not even on things they once supported. So now the lefties want the President to move so far to the left that he become like those crazy radical right wing nuts,except he’s a left wing nut. Where is the logic? Any other time the President could have work on alot of these things the Democrats wanted, but this was an very tough and difficult time for the President. He had to do everything he could to focus on this economy. All the while the Republicans fighting him on every hand. So if everything the lefties wanted couldn’t get done, where is the understanding,the patience, the loyalty? Sometimes I get just as piss off with the left as I do the right. What is going on in New York, I have made it known that I support the people’s right to protest. I agree with some of the things they are protesting about. But when they start to attack President Obama, you have lost my support. I understand the B.S. this President has had to deal with. It has not been easy for him either. I agree with you nintendowii10 about the PL had gotten out to vote in 2010, there would be no Speaker Boehner and those crazy radical T-Party bossing the House.

  35. 205 jacquelineoboomer
    October 8, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    I tweeted Goldie Taylor to ask her not to get so distracted by her TV appearances and the corporate media that she forgot to support President Obama and the AJA.

    She replied that she’s a “dyed in the wool independent.”

    I told her that was fine with me, but that I was contacting as many “voices” as I can because of all of the Obama bashing, so that we as a country can get something done.

    • October 8, 2011 at 9:43 pm

      What a cop-out. Independents can be so dishonest about their true beliefs just by saying they’re Independents.

    • October 9, 2011 at 1:34 am

      An independent in this day and age? What Republican would she possibly vote for?

    • 208 Chi
      October 9, 2011 at 4:24 am

      A dyed in the wool independent…

      What does that have to do with supporting the President’s job bill that will help bridge the jobless rate they all pretend to care about…

      ‘Dyed in the wool independent’ is Goldie Taylor’s cowardly attempt to stay employed and in the good graces of the same corporate magnates who pay her salary and put her out there as a token face and to distract from their destructive agenda …

      If Goldie Taylor, Chris Hayes and all the fake professional corporate tools really cared about money in politics, justice, joblessness, fairness and all their constantly changing fake outrage and contrived talking points targeting President Obama, they wouldn’t be working for the enemies of America..

      But for these greedy, inadequate cowards, this is as good as it gets for them career wise…

      • October 9, 2011 at 11:46 am

        So true. You can see it in her tweets. It’s clear to me that she’s just trying to further her career. Her appearance on Lawrence was good. But I am not fooled by her at all.

  36. 210 Kasai
    October 8, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Cos, it is a Sad day in this country, when a man like John Lewis a civil servant, a civil rights activist, that was beat up, close to losing his life for the right of these protesters have today. It is sickening and lost all credibility in OW, I have called on many black journalist to step up and say something or STFU, I will not listen to any of them, If they try to sell me or try to have me watch their shows, including Roland Marting, Uncle Rush. Enough is Enough!

    • 211 Me4obama
      October 8, 2011 at 8:52 pm

      Kasai, am reading about this on Twitter and I can’t bring myself to watch the video. Am too sensitive on stuff like that. My heart is aching for him rig now.

      • 212 Kasai
        October 8, 2011 at 9:07 pm

        Me4Obama, I read on Tweet..that they allowed Tavis and Cornell West to speak….hope this isn’t true….God help us!!!

  37. 214 Tracy
    October 8, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    http://politicsanonymous.com/?p=4311 A good article from Politics Anonymous on Occupy Wall Street as a quagmire for liberals and potential boon for GOP due to its lack of focus and anarchic quality. She contrasts to movement in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio which have clearly stated goals and realistic grasp of how to attain them through organization and the vote. The site has an Obama logo but I have not previously seen it.

  38. 215 Kasai
    October 8, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    FIGHT BACK…AND ROCK THE VOTE!!!!

    YOU ARE GETTING SCREWED. There is a war on voting going on and your rights are under attack. Politicians are trying to block young people from voting with shady new photo ID and residency laws. They are getting rid of things that make it easier for people to vote, like Election Day registration, early voting and pre-registration laws.

    IT IS TIME TO STOP THE BULLS**T. In America, we rock the vote, we don’t block the vote. Join our campaign. We’ll send you updates and get you plugged into the action in your state.

    HERE’S ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR VOTING RIGHTS!

    http://www.rockthevote.com/campaigns/suppression/

    • October 8, 2011 at 9:40 pm

      They dissed Lewis who is an Icon and let west and Tavis speak. Ww need to OUT Naomi Klein who is a canadian rying to undermine PBO like they did when he was running with NAFTAgate story.

  39. 217 57andFemale
    October 8, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Well, first day on Twitter. I loathe it. I honestly don’t understand its usefulness. Snips of stuff. Links are fine but I’d get those at TOD with deeper content and context. What is supposed to be accomplished with ever-shortening of attention spans?

    I ask this seriously — what is the advantage? Sheer volume of quick comments? I’m not trying to be difficult — I seriously want to understand the advantage. I look forward to the TOD family’s insight.

    • 218 Me4obama
      October 8, 2011 at 9:29 pm

      57andFemale, please be patient with it, it’s a powerful TOOL to express your voice however short it is. You get “NEWS” instantly, sometimes you can use it to blast the Media LIES. Give it few weeks, you will enjoy it.

      • 219 57andFemale
        October 8, 2011 at 10:13 pm

        I’m really being a cranky old lady tonight — I apologize. But to get this ‘immediate’ information, you have to be glued to Twitter, reading all the time, correct? Is that why people are driving 30 miles/hour on the Chicago expressways, weaving in and out of lanes with their heads turned to their phones on the passenger seat? Not gonna be one of those people — not ever.

    • October 8, 2011 at 9:32 pm

      My take: I like it, but I like it because its immediate.. because something can happen in Libya.. or Texas.. and we know about it in seconds. Its like magic 🙂 lol, joking a bit here. It is indeed for folks on the run, folks who are less apt to write and email or make a phone call.. because of it’s limits- it adds, I think, a dimension to communicating that works precisely because it’s short/to the point and fast… but more than anything else.. it is just one more way of communicating with one another, with getting the word out.. with spreading info and that is always a good thing, I think.

      • 221 57andFemale
        October 8, 2011 at 10:11 pm

        But is it ‘necessary’ for everyone? I will of course stick with it until I can make an honest judgment as to whether it’s for me or if I have something to add because of this tool. My impression from so many of my friends here was that it was ‘necessary’ to do the job we’re trying to do.

        I am a busy person. I am overwhelmed by what I have to take care of and get done, and it’s harder to do than it was when I was younger. I’m just overwhelmed at having to learn another new thing that robs me of time I don’t have.

        My new ‘smartphone’ has been a pain. I lament that we have these powerful tools and getting things set up is still a torturous job — it really should be easier after a generation of computers and everything that came after. Even setting up Twitter — the Droid came with a Twitter app that would not connect to the TOD list. I had to download another app from Twitter in order to get TOD tweets.

        Right now, it’s just a pain. I’ll stick with it for awhile.

        • October 8, 2011 at 10:30 pm

          Naw I don’t think its necessary for everyone.. I think its like anything else we pick and choose what works for us, what makes us comfortable. I have two adult sons.. in their early 30s.. neither of them tweets- ones an attorney, he doesn’t tweet 😉 I personally don’t have a cell phone, even my 78 year old mom has a cell phone! So.. in my opinion- to each his / her own. I think its great you’re willing to give it a chance. I think it works for me- because I don’t have to read or write a great deal of info to tweet and get my message out- and for me that works right now.. I really see it as more of a speed thing- to quickly reach many many people with a message/info.


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