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President Obama shakes hands with Missouri Governor Jay Nixon before speaking at a fundraiser in St. Louis, October 4


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  1. 1 TrumpDog
    October 4, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Good. I hope he raises a lot of money.

    • 2 utaustinliberal
      October 4, 2011 at 8:52 pm

      Amen I so badly want him to raise a billion dollars or more so Joe Scarborough, Politico, and the rest of the rightwingers choke on their rage. Press On Mr. President. Press On.

  2. October 4, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    I hope he raises a zazillion dollars. Meanwhile, with friends like this, the President is going to need all of us and all the money he can get.

    http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/10/05/bill-clintons-dangerous-game/

    • 4 Sue in Minnesota
      October 4, 2011 at 9:02 pm

      I do not trust Bill Clinton, arrogant, egotistical jerk.

      • 5 Eleroy
        October 4, 2011 at 9:42 pm

        Hi Sue!!! How are you my friend?? Stay ROCKING!!! Good to see you again!!!

        I agree, just saw these other stories too. Not good!!!

        http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/184981-bill-clintons-game

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-nostalgia-party-for-clinton-gang/2011/10/02/gIQAOJeWJL_story.html

        • 6 Sue in Minnesota
          October 4, 2011 at 10:40 pm

          Hey girlfriend….I’m getting better by the day.

          Clinton is in overdrive attempting to protect his reputation….such a demonstration of insecurity. His reputation, in my book was soiled when he lied to the nation. I can not imagine the weight of his ego, can you imagine carrying that thing around 😉

      • 7 dotster3
        October 4, 2011 at 9:44 pm

        I don’t trust him either. Too self-absorbed. And this won’t be the first time he’s tried to damage Obama. He needs a hobby and to fade away gracefully, instead of continually pushing himself to the forefront. Ego too large. Way.

      • 8 Puddin'
        October 4, 2011 at 11:10 pm

        Bill Clinton is not to be trusted…as my mama would say, “I trust him no further than I can pitch him”. He is a jealous “arrogant, egotistical jerk”.

        • 9 Chi
          October 5, 2011 at 2:48 am

          It is especially sad given that this is a former president who ought to know better…

          Here’s part of an article in the NY Times in 1994 about Bill Clinton. You would think he’d be more empathetic…

          … President Clinton is routinely depicted in the most unflattering terms: a liar, a fraud, a chronically indecisive man who cannot be trusted to stand for anything — or with anyone.”

          So why doesn’t all of this seem to matter more? Why doesn’t Bill Clinton get more credit for his successes, and less vilification for his failures, which seem to loom so large? Why does the President get so little respect? The problem is not just criticism from the right, where many passionately loathe Clinton. That is to be expected; conservatives understand, if liberals do not, how serious the President is about dramatic change. What threatens this President seems to be much larger than mere partisanship. There is a level of mistrust and even dislike of him that is almost visceral in its intensity. In Washington, where power is generally treated with genuflecting reverence, it is no longer surprising to hear the President spoken of with open and dismissive contempt. In mainstream journalism and even more so in popular entertainment, President Clinton is routinely depicted in the most unflattering terms: a liar, a fraud, a chronically indecisive man who cannot be trusted to stand for anything — or with anyone.

          Bob Woodward, in his book “The Agenda: Inside the Clinton White House,” describes the President as a lost leader, berating himself and his aides for selling out the populist promise of his campaign to satisfy Wall Street, being berated in turn by his own Vice President to “get with the goddamn program.” At a television town-hall gathering in North Carolina, a woman confronted the President: “Many of us Americans are having a hard time with your credibility. How can you earn back our trust?” At another public event, a newspaper editor informed the President that his explanations on Whitewater reminded him of his young daughter’s excuses for undone homework. The political columnist Joe Klein, once one of Clinton’s great fans, writes that the President’s idea of character is “adolescent, unformed, half-baked,” and that “with the Clintons, the story is always subject to further revision,” as “trust is squandered in dribs and drabs.”

          Much of this is unfair, some of it is irrational and some of it has more to do with the savagery of an angry and fearful time than it does with Clinton personally. It is true as well that Clinton suffers from a fundamental handicap; in the unusual three-way race of 1992, he was elected with only 43 percent of the vote, putting him in office with one of the weakest bases of support any President has ever had. But there is a fundamental reason for Clinton’s plight. Bill Clinton is the first President since Richard Nixon to be threatened with the awful intimacy of rejection not simply as a leader or as a politician but as a person. As was also true with Nixon, this threat flows from a deep source, an abiding public doubt about the ethical content of the President’s character. Such doubt is quite different from the criticisms of job performance that plague every President. It is an assessment of the man as a whole, of what is bred in the bone, one of those national gut decisions that happen in politics, something that solidifies after the accumulation of evidence passes some unseen tipping point: Lincoln is honest, Carter is weak, Reagan is decent but doddering, Bush is a wimp. Only Richard Nixon and now Bill Clinton have been tagged with nicknames that reflected a popular suspicion that the President of the United States could not be fully trusted: Tricky Dick and Slick Willie.

          What plagued Nixon, and now Clinton, is that this sort of judgment is extremely difficult to overcome; it is almost entirely impervious to the machinations of speech writers and political consultants, and even to substantive achievements of office. Bill Clinton ran for President promising to revive the economy and bring about universal health care. Less than halfway through his term, the economy is in strong shape and health care reform in some form is almost assured. Most Americans acknowledge these achievements. According to a New York Times-CBS poll in mid-July, 53 percent of Americans view the economy as healthy, compared with only 23 percent when Clinton took office. Seventy-nine percent think universal health care is “very important.” Yet the public is strongly disinclined to give Clinton credit. The Times-CBS poll found that 63 percent of Americans think Clinton has made no progress in improving the economy. Even more startling, 60 percent say Clinton has made no progress in advancing health care insurance. The President’s overall approval, which has never risen more than about 10 points beyond the 43 percent mark, has dropped precipitously in the past six months; 47 percent of the public disapprove of the way Clinton is doing his job and only 42 percent approve.

          Nixon’s problems were rooted in the record of his life, and Clinton’s are, too, in the things he has said and done to get where he is today. Clinton’s life trails him like a peculiarly single-minded mugger, popping out from the shadows every time it seems the President is for a moment safe — to whack the staggering victim anew. The past has slugged Clinton so often, so publicly and so brutally, that its attacks have become known, in the pop-culture shorthand that signifies universal acquaintanceship, by their tabloid handles: Gennifer, the Draft, I Didn’t Inhale, Whitewater, Troopergate, Hillary’s Commodities, Paula Jones. Each episode has moved the national assessment closer to the tipping point.

          What makes this sad, even tragic, rather than merely sordid, is that Bill Clinton’s predicament owes itself directly to Bill Clinton’s promise. The President’s problems did not come about because he was a cheap political hack. They came about because he was not. For what has happened to Clinton has happened because he wanted, more than anything in life, to get to where he is today, and because he wanted this, at least in part, in order to do good — and because the great goal of doing good gave him license to indulge in the everyday acts of minor corruption and compromise and falsity that the business of politics demands. Bill Clinton was perceptive enough to master politics — but not perceptive enough to see what politics was doing to him.

          By Michael Kelly
          Published: July 31, 1994

    • October 4, 2011 at 9:03 pm

      I just read that article. There has been no same party ex-president in history who has sought out the lime light as Bill Clinton, even GW with all his faults has chosen to remain in the shadows and not come out and second guess the oppossing party president.

      I’ve never trusted Bill Clinton, NEVER!

    • 11 JoJothecat
      October 4, 2011 at 9:07 pm

      I just don’t get Bill Clinton and the rest of the Democrats. It’s like they would rather lose the Senate and not regain the House than help PBO and the American people. This reminds me so much of the 1980 Democrats that turned their backs on Jimmy Carter, who I think was a much better caliber President than Bill Clinton. The difference is, Democrats love PBO and it’s the RW GOP Media with their phony polls that show other wise.

    • October 4, 2011 at 9:08 pm

      My question is seeing the political head winds this president is facing, why would a former president of your own party add to those head winds?

      • 13 Sue in Minnesota
        October 4, 2011 at 9:11 pm

        Narcissism.

        • October 4, 2011 at 9:24 pm

          In Carl Rove new political Ad against PBO, guess who they’re using to hit the president, the effing narcissist!

          • 15 Eleroy
            October 4, 2011 at 9:51 pm

            I just saw that too and boy was I pissed!!!

            I think Bil Clinton is on a mission to deny President Obama a second term!!!

            Bill’s claim to fame and much of the basis for his and his cronies high-priced lecture/lobby circuit demand comes from touting his 2 term presidency as a Democrat a rarity in modern times!!!

            And he can’t have President Obama take that away from him too.

            I do believe with all my heart that bill clinton and his friends like James Carville, Paul Begala, Steve Bing, Vernon Jordan, Robert Johnson etc are very committed to defeating President Obama especially for this reason!!!

            • 16 Puddin'
              October 4, 2011 at 11:23 pm

              He is up to his old tricks…he made sure Gore would not/did not win. I haven’t liked this snake in the grass since 2000. I sent DNC Chair DWS that they need to do something with this person.

      • October 5, 2011 at 12:14 am

        Having just viewed, and re-viewed, the pictures in the previous thread, I’d answer that Bill is insecure and is starving for love and attention. He obviously needed both so badly while in the Oval Office that he sought them in inappropriate places. He’s still seeking both in inappropriate ways, which IMO is why he’s been interposing himself into every crevice he thinks he sees. I never realized that presidents had anniversary parties to celebrate the day they threw their hat into the presidential ring. With the country in a jobs crisis, this is the most important accomplishment Bill and his cohorts could celebrate after 8 years in office?

        Can you see our well-loved, self-confident, President Obama behaving in a similar fashion after his term of office is over? I can’t. Bill C may be smart, but obviously not smart enough to realize that his current behaviour will add another taint to his legacy. I refuse to believe this small-minded narcissist will be successful in sabotaging the people’s president! He may help in derailing the argument for jobs, but he won’t stymie our current President. The truth is, Bill can have his nostalgia parties, wear his Tweety crown, push himself before the media, and peddle all the books he wants, but he won’t EVER measure up in honesty, empathy, and integrity with the 44th president of the USA regardless of how many years PBO serves. That’s just FACT!

    • 18 vero804
      October 4, 2011 at 9:25 pm

      Man, I wish I hadn’t read that. Annoying. I’m no PUMA equivalent, but on some level I haven’t gotten over the primary…the Clintons were off the hook dirty, in my book.

      I guess now we can all be sure that the Ragin Cajun wasn’t speaking out of turn with his whole “POTUS needs to fire people and panic” nonsense.

    • October 4, 2011 at 9:38 pm

      Ah, Billy, Billy, Billy. He’s not even being subtle anymore. I’m beginning to think that anyone PBO goes golfing with is an enemy, not a friend i.e.: Bonehead and Billy-boy. Bill needs to stop it. It’s really gonna come back and bite him in the ass. This is disgusting, Bill-O obviously doesn’t believe in loyalty or decency.

  3. October 4, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Poor thing, I know he’s tired. What a day he’s had.

  4. October 4, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    PBO raised about $2.5M today. He’s a presidential machine.

  5. October 4, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Here’s some good news via twitter on the WVA gov race. The democrat wins:

    CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) – Democrat Earl Ray Tomblin wins W.Va. governor’s race, fending off efforts to link him to Obama.
    47 seconds ago via TweetDeck

  6. 42 anniebella
    October 4, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    God Bless our President and our wonderful First Family.

  7. 43 jacquelineoboomer
    October 4, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Looks like the President will be hopping aboard AF1 soon, for the ride home. Hope it was a successful day for him, all around!

    O/T but I’m halfheartedly watching Ken Burns’ “Prohibition” on PBS. One quote from it hit me (Wet referred to those against Prohibition, of course; and Dry, the alternative):

    “The country is divided among The Wets, The Drys, and The Hypocrites.”

    Substitute, at will, the words wet and dry, and that pretty much describes where we are in 2011. We’re not divided in half politically; more like in thirds, with pretenders on both sides, hiding their true colors.

    #PressOn

  8. October 4, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Amidst all the ugliness and dirt of the day, I still feel a sense of gratefulness for our President, his wife and all his supporters. We have been through a lot together.

    I hope all of you are gearing up to pitch in to help in his reelection. It may require you to step out of your comfort zone just a little bit, but I have no doubt you will step up. We are all counting on you. Most of all, President Barack Obama. How fortunate we are to be a witness to these times. Incredible.

    • 45 jacquelineoboomer
      October 4, 2011 at 9:14 pm

      Well said, meta. You are such an inspiration to me personally, and – I’m sure – to everyone else.

      If my calendar is right, today’s Oct. 4 … I think in three more days, one of our other inspirations – Donna Dem – will hear for sure if she’s “the one.” I’m so excited, and I just can’t hide it! 🙂

    • October 4, 2011 at 9:22 pm

      Right on, Meta, we have to remember that every day and be grateful to them for all they’re enduring for our sake.

    • 48 Eleroy
      October 4, 2011 at 9:58 pm

      Totally spot on Meta!!! I too am so grateful for this amazing President, our fanatastic mensch President Barack Obama!!! he RULES!!!

      I’m totally fired up and ready to go!!!

    • 50 hopefruit2
      October 4, 2011 at 9:17 pm

      AP has called it for Democrat Tomblin who has 51%

      Repub Maloney has ~ 46%

      I guess those lying “Obamacare” ads did NOTHING to help the GOP candidate.

  9. 51 Me4obama
    October 4, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    IT’s obama’s fault a democrat won in West Virginia. Yessss

  10. 53 proudmemberofglobalzero
    October 4, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Did anyone else get a response from ESPN after we all sent in emails?

    Here is mine:

    Dear Shoshana,

    Thanks for contacting ESPN.

    While Hank Williams, Jr. is not an ESPN employee, we recognize that he is closely linked to our company through the open to Monday Night Football. We are extremely disappointed with his comments, and as a result we have decided to pull the open from tonight’s telecast.

    Sincerely,

    Candice
    ESPN Viewer Response

    ————— Original Message —————

    As a decedent of ONE Holocaust survivor, I want to thank you for pulling Hank Williams Jr.’s spot from the show tonight. Please consider it for the rest of the year and beyond.

    Shalom Shoshana

  11. 55 Allison
    October 4, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Rachel Maddow is on fire against Karl Rove’s Crossroads group with the Citizen’s United Supreme Court moneybomb ruling … so please don’t be throwing her under the bus. She is the one of the only sane voices on a major network at any time of day. We need her. Obama 2012

  12. 59 anniebella
    October 4, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    I just sent a email to NBC Chicago and told them exactly what I think of that B.S. that they reported from that right wing Judicial Watch and Matt Drudge.

    • 61 Bobfr
      October 4, 2011 at 9:43 pm

      Our4thEstate Bobfr
      #EMOPROGS #WHINERATTI “You Asked For A Fight” bit.ly/r1FQqa #OBAMA is bringing it to #GOPFAIL. WHERE ARE YOU? #PASSTHEBILL #PRESSON

      #YesWECanDOMoreTogether

  13. 63 nintendowii10
    October 4, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    So where are the media pundits bragging about how the Democrats lost Anthony Wiener’s seat to brag and boast about a Democrat winning the governorship in West Virginia?

    Hacks, the lot of them!

  14. 65 Tulips
    October 4, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Hey family there will be a blog set up by some on twitter, with info about voting requirements from every state. the goal is to educate those of the changes and encourage them to get the correct documents. There will be a link where you can refer ppl to. we have to help potus since the Dems seem to let him fight this battle alone. As soon as it take off i will post so everyone can get info from 1 place.

  15. 69 Ladyhawke
    October 4, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Reposting to current thread…..

    AFL-CIO PRESIDENT RICHARD TRUMKA WAS JUST ON THE RACHEL MADDOW SHOW TALKING ABOUT A NEW INITIATIVE TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. THEY HAVE CREATED A MAP THAT CAN BE USED TO FIND BRIDGES IN YOUR STATE THAT NEED WORK. IT ALSO PROVIDES INFORMATION ABOUT THE JOB CRISIS IN YOUR STATE. HE HAD POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA’S AMERICAN JOBS ACT.

    ================================================================

    AMERICA’S BRIDGES NEED WORK, OUR PEOPLE DO TOO

    Click on your state.

    In America, 69,223 bridges are structurally deficient. Meanwhile, 9.1 percent of Americans are jobless.

    Click on your state to find out the condition of your state’s bridges and the depth of the jobs crisis in your state. Then, tell your members of Congress to put America back to work fixing what’s broken.

    With your help, we can build a movement for good jobs, state-by-state.

    Find events in your area.

    http://www.aflcio.org/upload/splash_awtw.cfm?continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aflcio.org%2F

  16. 74 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    October 4, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    ummm……………..the Clinton machine was defeated in 2008 so what makes folks think they will be successful this time around TOD family? Im just asking. I told ya’ll that golf outing was used by PBO to size up his enemy. He has done it with Boner, our Fascist Ohio Governor Kasich, and McConnel. Clinton is the latest of PBO sizing up his enemy. Soon they will become his prey. I doubt the President has forgotten the 2008 primaries. Mr. Clinton his mortified that his legacy has been surpassed by another DEM (a black one on top of that) and most likely does not want a Obama second term. Narcissism folks at its best. I’m DONE fretting and going into MAJOR panic mode every time the President has advisaries come out in full force publically against him. This is to be expected folks. Here’s why:

    1. He’s the first African American president to run for re-election.
    2. He is a Pragmatic Populous President actually working for the American people
    3. He is void of zillions of special interests PACS whom he must cater to and can go after the big boys to win re-election
    4. This time around he will not hold his tongue in exposing his enemies.
    5. The world has witnessed his brilliance in foreign policy and domestically what he has accomplished socially.
    6. This is the most important of fears for PBO’s enemies……giving him a second term with a workable congress. The Teathugs, PUMAS, Leftist radicals, Racist, War mongers, Wall St., Chamber of Commerce all our terrified of a PBO second term and what he would do with no worries about another election.

    In other words strap up the boots Obamacrats…..it is going to be a bumpy ride and will take PBO’s full arsenal of ground and internet troops to take us over the finish line. BTW the selfish, narcissistic, jealous, and envious of mankind always falters in the end….that would be Bill Clinton. 😉 That being said Keep Hope Alive, YES WE CAN, YES WE DID, YES WE WILL AGAIN!! Obama/Biden 2012!!


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