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11

‘david sirota and the white leftist version of racism’

Deaniac (The People’s View): It’s kind of funny when you think about it, but silver-pen David Sirota thinks he’s got a better grip on race than the founding director of the Project on Gender, Race, and Politics in the South at Tulane University, Melissa Harris-Perry.

After Professor Harris-Perry’s piece in The Nation chiding white Leftist electoral racism of double standards against a black president received acclaim and attention, Sirota, a renowned fantasy-land pretend-Leftist, decided that he was going to take on Professor Harris Perry, by being too cute by half.

Sirota’s argument, on the surface, is that the elite white Leftist class – who overlap with the Professional Left about 90% – is really mad at the president not out of some double standard they set for a black president, but on the basis of policy. Or as David calls it, policy betrayals. Clever. Because we have never seen the attempt to hide denial of race-privilege behind a thin veil of policy criticism ever before, right?

…. the first African American president is not treated with the same level of respect by the white Leftist elite, nor do his accomplishments enjoy among them the same praise had those same accomplishments come from a white president. And this part of the thesis, unfortunately, is not at all difficult to prove, either: See post for detailed examples

… The racist undertone is also present in the latent expectation that once you have elected a black president, he needs to be a magician and magically begin a utopia according to your likings …. The truth of liberal white elitism and racism is based on true observations, and is not much better than that from the Republicans: that the black guy, who’s working day and night to keep the car from slipping back into the ditch and move forward is not pushing it hard enough or the right way, and so on and so forth.

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20 Responses to “‘david sirota and the white leftist version of racism’”


  1. September 28, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    hiya Chips, I clicked on, Leave a comment at the top of this page, and I was able to be among the living again. It’s so good to re-join the gang here. Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy everybody, I’ve missed each and everyone of you, It’s so good to be back. Been having problems connecting here In the past few days

  2. 2 utaustinliberal
    September 28, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Thanks for the article Chips. Deaniac nails it again. It’s the same thing as saying “Oh, I’m not racist; I have a black friend.” Sirota should look himself in the mirror and realize he knows jack shit.

    • September 28, 2011 at 1:54 pm

      Hi UT, did you see Melissa’s response to Joan Walsh? Walsh wrote a Sirota-like reply to Melissa’s original piece and in it claimed she was a friend of Melissa, like that made everything okay. Melissa responded by making it clear she is not a friend of Walsh, so Walsh ‘apologized’ to her on Twitter. Truly, the PL crew are pitiful.

      See here –

      Which brings us to a second common strategy of argument about one’s racial innocence: the “I have black friends” claim. I was shocked and angered when Salon’s Joan Walsh used this strategy in her criticism of my piece. Although I disagree with her, I have no problem with Walsh’s decision to take on the claims in my piece. I consider it a sign of respect to publicly engage those with whom you disagree. I was taken aback that Walsh emphasized the extent of our friendship. Walsh and I have been professionally friendly. We’ve eaten a few meals. I invited her to speak at Princeton and I introduced her to my literary agent. We are not friends. Friendship is a deep and lasting relationship based on shared sacrifice and joys. We are not intimates in that way. Watching Walsh deploy our professional familiarity as a shield against claims of her own bias is very troubling.

      http://www.thenation.com/blog/163629/epistemology-race-talk

      • 4 jacquelineoboomer
        September 28, 2011 at 2:01 pm

        Pitiful, pathetic … you called it.

        Makes me kind of sick to my stomach, actually.

        One thing I learned back in my 30s (30 years ago) – you can never really call anyone you’re acquainted with (I’m not talking family or real friends) on their wicked actions or words because they will never own up to it. They will spend the rest of your acquaintance trying to either tread gingerly around you or trying to prove themselves to you, but in a false, self-serving way.

        Not sure I’m making sense, but it’s my way of understanding why some in the PL don’t just back off and say, “Oh, now I get it. Sorry. I’ll start working toward the common good of all Democrats and get off the President’s back.” I wish that would happen, but alas …

      • 5 utaustinliberal
        September 28, 2011 at 2:03 pm

        Yeah I did. The PL doesn’t seem to realize that just because they’re liberals it NEVER gives them the right to spew or write prejudiced sayings and articles. Just because they vote Democrat (some of them actually vote republican sometimes) doesn’t automatically mean they don’t hold some prejudiced or racist views. This isn’t the first time Walsh or others in the PL sector have peddled such utter disgusting nonsense against this President and others of color and then they try to put up a lame defense by saying: “Oh, I’m not racist; I voted for Obama, or I have a black professional friend in the media” or they offer a half assed “apology.”

        Once again, thanks for the article Chips. It’s good for us to be in the know and be alert to the fact that the PL has certain stains they try to exclusively paint the other side with.

        • 6 jacquelineoboomer
          September 28, 2011 at 2:31 pm

          You know, as adults, we all have prejudices. (I’m obviously convinced they are learned, since little kids don’t have them until they are taught by family or society.) An anthropologist would tell us that it’s a part of our human nature – as in what we feel when members of a different group who know how to make fire (i.e., have the power) are coming over the ridge. Our first instinct is fear (we don’t know if they’ll hurt us), and then – by our most basic nature – we try to defend our territory or goods, on our way to trying to take the power away from the other group.

          As responsible adults (i.e., liberals – ha!), we learn to fight back and tamp down those prejudices, which don’t really matter – much less do our instinctive fears materialize – and open our hearts and minds for the common good – not to mention our own happiness and well being.

          Yet, we still have prejudices – it’s whether or not we act on them that’s important. For instance, I’m 5’9″ tall and never liked being with short men – I was always too afraid I’d wanna eat a plate of spaghetti off the top of their heads.

          But I digress. (Threw in a little humor, because we cannot allow ourselves to get in a funk over this discussion; it’s yet another distraction. We must Press On!)

          Nevertheless, it still astounds me that – as a lifelong Democrat – I did not 100% fully realize until the ’08 campaign (how naive is that?) that there are white Democrats who are prejudiced against people of color and act on it. Big Time. You are right, ut, we just have to be alert and aware, and keep our eye on the prize (2012).

          • September 28, 2011 at 5:36 pm

            Though late today, i dropped my anchor here and boy-o-boy, what a conversation. While i agree with ut and you have another twist. This not an instead of but an addition to…It has to do with work ethic and, for want of a better term, flying false colors.
            Almost every day we hear a term that for the most part is b.s. It’s called “working hard”. Everybody uses it but few do it. For years the people have proclaimed how hard they have worked for the American people. Bosses go home telling their wives, bank tellers, clerks, bus drivers, even so called journalists. Makes me wonder if “hard work” comes in a jar.
            I learned a long time ago that that term is often used to justify a bunch of time wasting, do nothing activity. I seen people rearrange the paper work on their desks for 8 hrs and then tell everyone how hard they work.Those type folks are everywhere and in all walks of life. They have more interest in maintaining the status quo than just about anything. Woe be unto you if you come on the scene fired up and ready to innovate and break a sweat. You will be perceived as a threat and in some cases be taken to the “wood shed” and shown “how we do things ’round here”.
            Along comes Barack H. Obama who has refused to abide by that unwritten law, he has a BIG floodlight that he is shining on the “hard work” meme. Just the level of his activity his given new meaning to the phrase and a lot of folks are having to “refudiate”;-)

        • 8 57andFemale
          September 28, 2011 at 2:39 pm

          This was my final straw at dKos — the purging of black people who had the temerity to call out racism against POTUS. When it comes from the left it is particularly galling — their paternalistic smugness. What particularly annoys me is that they are unwilling to even take an honest look at their behavior — I find that unforgivable from liberals.

          • 9 donna dem 4 obama
            September 28, 2011 at 3:23 pm

            I just wish that AA’s would give up on that site entirely and then take it to the media. Instead the ones that haven’t been silenced stay and gripe and try to give “their side” of things when none of it will ever make an ounce of difference until Kos is humiliated into confronting his & the rest of that bunches demons.

      • 10 Fred
        September 28, 2011 at 3:01 pm

        I send a big OUCH! to Walsh’s way because Melissa treated her ass 😉

      • 11 nathkatun7
        September 28, 2011 at 6:07 pm

        That was an excellent response. Thank you, Chipsticks, for sharing it with us.

  3. 12 MTmarilyn
    September 28, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Daivd Sirota use to live in MT and I use to get his emails, read his columns, etc. Now he has really gone off the deep end. Deaniac’s article is right on. These PL’s are out on the fringe.

  4. 14 Pamela
    September 28, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Sirota is full of it. Cannot read him. Have tried. Always end up in disbelief that a “journalist” can get away with this kind of crap writing. Hen makes my stomach churn. I have learned to turn the page on his articles.

  5. 15 jacquelineoboomer
    September 28, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    I haven’t fully read and digested the Melissa Harris-Perry trail of articles and links – just saved them to read – but one headline on the Joan Walsh link hit me, discounting the charged “insidious form of racism” …

    If I’m not mistaken, I believe Joan Walsh happens to be a Lesbian. Would she not be ultra-familiar with all of the “insidious forms of homophobia,” and, thus, feel a little more like learning something about herself and whichever of her views others may think she is displaying, rather than immediately going on the defensive?

    (I don’t like Joan Walsh at all because she’s a PUMA, so it’s hard to even care what she thinks. I’ll admit that!)

  6. 16 Dr. Sisco
    September 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    These are the same white people who “understand” Black people better than Blacks themselves. The same white people who cannot understand why Black people are annoyed by their enthusiasm for “The Help” – while they ignore the stories of our female relatives.
    What they “hate” about Obama is that he has refused to live up to their belief in all the “Magic Negro” fantasies they have constructed.
    No, Uncle Remus did not move into the White House!

  7. September 28, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Some blogger here have a strong voice when it come to some blacks disrespecting Obama, because of his color which i agree with (brother, we want you to do more for us) which is wrong to think just because he share the same skin color that he owe us something. But some here they can’t see when they are disrespecting the black community by lumping us all together , The black community this, the black community that, the black people want handout. And I don’t know what to make of this kind of talk, It confused me. And when you call them on it they make excuses. You misunderstood me, but they never change their words from the black people or the black community to some black people, some in the black community. Why is it so hard for some here to say some blacks are mistreating the President. We do have a problem with race in the democratic party. Some white folk and black folk really don’t see Obama as a black man, but as a mix race that OK until he walk outside, then every one look at the color of his skin which is the color of most (black Americans) who have white, some where in their blood line. Man in the mirror by M. Jackson help me when it come to the American people and race relation.

    • September 28, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      My Point with the follow statement is (every one look at the color of his skin which is the color of most (black Americans) Every one can see his skin is brown, some act on it, some don’t.

  8. 19 Eleroy
    September 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    David Sirota is an arse!!! A bitter, childish, silly, hateful wannabe arse!!!

    He craves fame by any means and should be ignored. That WILL guarantee that he finally goes over the edge!!!

  9. 20 tao jones
    September 29, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Disappointed compared to what?

    Was there some other candidate in 2008 who was going to achieve their utopian goals in the face of intractable GOP opposition any better? Hillary? No that had stonewall opposition written all over it. Edwards? Barf.

    The PL wants to be insiders and they are not because as we have seen they have nothing to offer. So they whine. But because they whine they get attention so they whine louder and rattle their cups hoping for donations. Screw them and the media that support them.


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