22
Sep
11

‘clinton, context, and coverage – a case study’

Steve Benen: If you perused the headlines on several prominent political news sites yesterday, you were led to believe that former President Clinton, in an interview with Newsmax, expressed his opposition to President Obama’s debt-reduction plan, or at least the provisions related to tax fairness.

….. Perhaps the most egregious was Time’s Mark Halperin, who ran this as the lead political story yesterday afternoon. The headline …., read, “42: No Tax Hikes.” The blurb told readers, “In Newsmax interview, Clinton says, ‘I personally don’t believe we ought to be raising taxes … This has been a dead flat economy.’”

What did Clinton actually say? The quote from the former president is pretty straightforward: “I personally don’t believe we ought to be raising taxes or cutting spending until we get this economy off the ground.”

Notice the difference between the quote and the media’s coverage?

First, these media outlets simply chose to ignore the part of the quote in which Clinton rejected spending cuts during a weak economy. Halperin went so far as to use ellipses to take out the part in which the former president dismissed the Republicans’ priority, misleading the reader about Clinton’s position.

…. Clinton and Obama are saying the same thing. There’s no excuse for these media outlets telling the public otherwise.

Full post here


92 Responses to “‘clinton, context, and coverage – a case study’”


  1. 1 prettyfoot58
    September 22, 2011 at 10:58 am

    I am sooooo weary of Mark Halpern….he has no credibility at all…yet he still is allowed to spew his biased and racially charged opinions…time to send anothe email to time magazine…

  2. 2 COS
    September 22, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Halpern is still up to his old tricks. Thanks to Steve Bene for another good read.

  3. 3 donna dem 4 obama
    September 22, 2011 at 11:01 am

    There is going to be a lot of this going on for the next 14 months and beyond. The media likes to play on our emotions and manipulate us. I must say that for a long time I fell prey to this but I am slowly learning to delve deeper into these stories when they come out. We have to start uniting this party because divided we fall. Please do everything in your power to correct the endless, misrepresentations by our so called media.

    • 4 a4alice
      September 22, 2011 at 11:30 am

      hey donna you responses from your query about dem’s not being all on board with AJA. Ladyhawke pretty much answered your question but the one guy I know of is Keith Ellison from MN who supports AJA but he says that there will be cuts to SS, Medicaid, Medicare. I already sent him a letter but he could be another on your list.

    • 5 lmrj
      September 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm

      AttachWatch! Send all of this stuff to AttackWatch.

  4. 6 utaustinliberal
    September 22, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I appreciate that Benen clarified Clinton’s comments but, I saw him on Morning Joe today and for the first time in a while, I had to change the channel when Bill Clinton was speaking. He was so self-serving and smug. They were feeding his ego and he was lapping it up. Yes, Bill we know you created 23 million jobs during your tenure. Now it’s time for you to SHUT UP and throw all your political weight behind PBO and the Democrats and stop throwing PBO under the bus. He kept intimating that though he and other wealthy people benefited heavily and unfairly from the Bush Administration’s fiscal policies, that PBO was somehow wrong to ask the rich to pay their fair share. I was stunned. He’s saying this on Morning Joe. The show that sets the republican talking points for the day. He kept saying that though PBO’s AJA was a good start, he should be more aggressive in creating jobs in 2012 and stop worrying about the budget. Really???! Does he know that when one doesn’t worry about a budget…. it leads to…. drum roll please… a freaking GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. He kept trying to intimate that the republican party in congress isn’t as worse as the republican party of the 90′s and Scarborough kept egging him on. No Bill, the GOP party of today has seen an influx of the tea party and that makes them 10 times worse than the GOP of the 90′s. Then he seemed to realize what he was saying and tried to self correct. he said, well 2011 is like 1995 when the GOP thought they’d won and that 2012 will be like 1996 when the GOP were dealt a blow and PBO will be re-elected.

    • September 22, 2011 at 11:10 am

      OMG, I really can’t stand this. What a pack of self-serving lies. As you can see just below, I was thinking some of the same things and I don’t even watch MJ. Clinton has an ego the size of Manhattan and I’m topped out on him. ENOUGH.

      • 8 Mel
        September 22, 2011 at 12:19 pm

        Well who is the Dick now? mark helpering is , and he knows it for anybody to believe this asshole must
        be insane. He is part of the Miramax/FOX propaganda

      • 9 jacquelineoboomer
        September 22, 2011 at 12:55 pm

        Why Bill is speaking out in any way about the administration WHEN HIS WIFE IS A PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION is beyond me.

      • 10 Obama Grandmama
        September 22, 2011 at 2:38 pm

        This is the way former Prez Clinton acted on the campaign trail for Hillary. He is back to being a liability to PBO since he cannot help but feed his ego. He is in competition with our PBO. It sounds like he did mean to criticize PBO with the taxes by this interview. It is kind of like let him talk and he puts his foot in his own mouth.

    • September 22, 2011 at 11:11 am

      seriously, I really respect and admire Hillary, but the ONLY good thing about her leaving is that HOPEFULLY, she’ll take Bill with her. It seems as though he has suddenly become relevant because he has a foot in the WH aka Hillary. With her gone, I’m hopeful the media will lose interest in him. Can’t stand him. He’s such a fricking tool.

      • September 22, 2011 at 11:13 am

        I wish I had your optimism because I don’t think we’re going to hear the end of it from him for a long, long time. He craves adoration.

        • 13 prettyfoot58
          September 22, 2011 at 11:27 am

          Interesting that we did not hear ,uch from Bill…during the Bush yhears

          • 14 dotster3
            September 22, 2011 at 11:57 am

            Other than appearing with the Bushes every chance he had and bragging that Barbara Bush considered him one of her sons now. Ewwwww. That was the end of it for me. He was so anxious to make friends with the right, hoping to get beyond all his probs while in office. I’m ready for him to fade into the background also but agree with those who feel he will always be seeking the spotlight.
            But it is very disturbing all the selective editing that is going on—-in books (Suskind) and in news sites—-purposely omitting key parts of quotes to drive an agenda. Truth doesn’t seem to be a priority any more. Like the AP, which news sources across the country subscribe to—–all of their releases now are slanted right, anti-Obama, as if they had been stamped with approval by the RNC.

      • September 22, 2011 at 12:44 pm

        I didn’t know that Hillary was leaving- when?

    • 18 Me4obama
      September 22, 2011 at 11:14 am

      His Ego is so huge. He was on the Rachel Ray on Tuesday and they were talking about childhood Obesity and he never once Mentioned the First Lady’s name in the whole interview NOT once and he took credit for partnering with Rachel Ray to change school lunches and cutting salt in food kids eat in school, iuntil MY Sam Kass came on and he promoted the LET’S MOVE campaign.

      • September 22, 2011 at 11:27 am

        This is the one and only time I’m going to say this. After this, please NEVER, NEVER, EVER mention it again: I seriously admire ex-president George W. Bush, aka W, aka Shrub, aka Village Idiot. Why? Because he recognizes and acknowledges the “ex” that precedes his title. In the three years he’s been gone, I’ve neither seen hide nor hair of him except for OBL’s killing and the 9/11 memorial. Even though he’s being rightfully blamed for the economy and the state of our country, I haven’t seen him on tv defending himself, haven’t heard from him. I really, really like that. I really appreciate it. It’s dignified and respectful. It’s the acceptance that his time has come and gone and he has moved on. When the frack will good ol’ Bill have the same dignity and respect that Bush does?
        ps- it’s really me. my account hasn’t been hijacked. I’m just really disgusted by Bill.

    • September 22, 2011 at 11:24 am

      I am livid at Clinton right now. He is smart enough to know that Scarborough was using him, but he wanted to say those things. Did he say anything about NAFTA and DADT?

    • September 22, 2011 at 11:37 am

      NAILED IT! They’re treating Clinton as if he’s still POTUS. Completely trying to make PBO go away, to disappear, like Casper, like it’s alwasy been for BLACK PEOPLE. Make us disapper. I LOATHE THE MEDIA. BYE BUBBA!

      • 25 Obama Grandmama
        September 22, 2011 at 2:43 pm

        My brother keeps telling me he reads that Hillary is going to get drafted to run for the presidency in 2012. I say that is not true. This Bill talk going on now makes me worry about what my brother has said.

    • September 22, 2011 at 11:50 am

      THIS.

      Great synopsis, uta. Too much “coincidence” going on here: first he interjects his 14th amend bs in the debt ceiling fiasco.. We’ve recently read screeds by Carville and Penn…I’m beginning to think that protecting Bill Clinton’s legacy as the only modern 2 term dem president is behind this. In all the years of Bush destruction, I remember Mr. Clinton as being unusually quiet.

      Does anyone else wonder about this or am I just being paranoid?

      • 27 Lovepolitics2008
        September 22, 2011 at 12:40 pm

        I don’t think you are. He making the rounds to express a difference of opinion at the EXACT moment that President Obama is having some success at changing the narrative and gaining back some momentum, is VERY VERY suspicious.

        Bill Clinton is a political animal and is very good at the Washington games, at using the media to his advantage. He knows EXACLY what his parading and talking in the media is doing to President Obama. Slick Willie indeed. I will go further. I think that he has been undermining President Obama behind the scenes from the beginning. Talking to his friends in the media, in the party, criticizing, pointing out HIS solutions, making sure that democrats always doubt President Obama’s judgment.

        I have to admit I’ve even entertained the possibility that he hoped President Obama would decide not to seek reelection because of a lack of support in his party, so that Hillary could come as a savior. He sees that President Obama is so unselfish he would do everything to keep blacks and young people motivated and eager to still vote democratic, for the good of the country. I know that it may be a bridge too far and it’s only about his legacy and about resentment, but I had to get it off my chest.

        Reading the comments, I just learned that he talked about the obesity problem without mentionning the national campaign of Mrs. Obama? Wow.

        I’m sorry if I offend some people here, but I’m tired sick of him and his ego.

        • September 22, 2011 at 12:47 pm

          I have to agree with you after reading all the comments here about what he’s been saying.. and not saying.. he is very busy patting himself on the back all while undermining President Obama.

          • September 22, 2011 at 1:40 pm

            The sad thing, sherijr, is that the 90’s were very different from today. For one thing, former Pres. Clinton was riding on both the dot.com and real estate bubbles. The fact that he doesn’t acknowledge the difference saddens me. The fact that he is parroting RW talking points, i.e., NO tax increases (even on the rich) during a recession-even when we’re in a different era-depresses me beyond belief.

            P.S. This is no way a criticism of SOS, Hillary Clinton.

            • September 22, 2011 at 2:36 pm

              Those are important points pamela.. very different time- and very different economics for the country…it is indeed unfortunate that Clinton fails to clarify this in his commentaries to the media.

        • September 22, 2011 at 12:50 pm

          You so right Bill is for Bill and only Bill.

      • 32 L3
        September 22, 2011 at 7:24 pm

        You are not paranoid. I have believed this for quite some time which is why people like Tavis (a Clinton supporter) have tried to undermine the President with black voters because they know Hillary could never win without them. Bill is very vindictive. He’s got all his Democratic allies on television daily assailing the President. I wish someone like Rev. Al would publicly address this story. I believe they would be so shamed by it that they would stop, at least publicly.

    • 33 virginia
      September 22, 2011 at 1:58 pm

      I was also upset by Clinton self-serving comments and Scarborough’s not so subtle push to get him to criticize the President. I’m also furious over the conversation at the Scarborough table later when they compared Pres. Obama to Pres. Clinton (which is stupid in the first place), but they were implying that Obama should explain his positions more like Clinton does–less “professorial”. Have you ever really listened to Clinton try to explain ANYTHING. Half the time it’s jumbled and makes no sense. Why would we want ANYBODY else to talk like that? (“I did not have sex…….etc. etc.) Nobody is more evasive than Bill Clinton. These media types really ought to listen to him sometimes.

    • 34 Chi
      September 23, 2011 at 4:49 am

      Funny Bill Clinton now says not to worry about the budget when just a while back he was adamant that deficit reduction was priority…

      Bill Clinton continues to do everything to undermine and sabotage President Obama…

      But Clinton will fail woefully…

  5. September 22, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Why, for the love of all that’s right in the universe, would Bill Clinton, a former President, give an interview to Newsmax? It’s at the top of the list of the most abhorrent cesspools of craptastic media out there. Unfreakinbelievable. Honestly, I wish he would just shut up. People who hate him are now using him as a tool against PBO and he’s giving them plenty of fodder. It just turns my stomach.

    • September 22, 2011 at 11:16 am

      Sorry meta, but it’s Bill Clinton. What do you expect?
      ps- the attitude in this statement isn’t directed at you. It’s directed at that Ass Bill Clinton. I never realized what a HUGE media hoe he was before this. He needs to give it a fricking rest for pete’s sake!

      • September 22, 2011 at 11:42 am

        LISA; I must tell you all the facts about Bill Clinton that has been lost to all. He was a poor Governor from Arkansas won the Presidency and the world was open to his ego.He had no money when he became President and since he left office the man has made more than190 million dollars in speaking engagements and other contracts.So of course some of that deep South attitudes come out to fact that a nobody as they thought our President Obama was could beat his machine and his wife to get what He thought was hers by proxy.So to this day he still things his wife should be President with him being the top adviser to her or chief of staff and all the power that has with it.When the President wins reelection and Hillary leaves just watch Bill show his behind for real it is just starting sooner.

        • September 22, 2011 at 11:47 am

          sorry a typo a line i messed up SO TO THIS DAY HE STILL THINKS HIS WIFE SHOULD BE PRESIDENT WITH HIM BEING THE TOP ADVISER TO HER OR CHIEF OF STAFF AND ALL THE POWER THAT HAS WITH IT. hope it makes sense now.

          • 39 dotster3
            September 22, 2011 at 12:06 pm

            I don’t trust all the lingering Clintonites either—-they keep popping up to cause trouble. Yesterday on msnbc they had a conservative/libertarian editor from the Chgo Trib on to discuss his editorial where he suggested that Obama should step aside and the Dems should run Hillary in 2012. Just hugely preposterous, but this is the kind of junk we get with the Clinton people continuing to cause havoc.

            • September 22, 2011 at 12:27 pm

              Dotster3 ; The Clintonites just can’t let go of a chance to be in power again. They want power so bad they will act like the GREED OVER PEOPLE PARTY to get it.

            • 41 Obama Grandmama
              September 22, 2011 at 2:52 pm

              Okay, this news article must be what my brother was talking about yesterday. He had heard that it was being considered to have Obama step down and run Hillary in the next election. I thought he was crazy but after seeing the crap Bill Clinton has been spewing maybe it is being considered by them. I stay true to Obama.

    • 43 prettyfoot58
      September 22, 2011 at 11:33 am

      He wants to undermine the Presidnet….

  6. 44 Me4obama
    September 22, 2011 at 11:08 am

    I love Bill Clinton regardless of how I feel about this very media stunt he pulled giving an interview to all places Newsmax. We are going to need him in 2012 and beyond.

    • 45 virginia
      September 22, 2011 at 2:05 pm

      I don’t dislike Clinton, but I sometimes don’t like his games. He and Obama are two different people, and I hate the comparisons. I’ve always felt that Clinton’s time in office contributed somewhat to the viral atmosphere wer’re in right now. He gave them all the ammunition they needed to discredit Democrats, and though we don’t talk about it now, his actions will always be the elephant behind the curtain whenever he speaks. Clinton should stand four square with this President, and stop trying to free lance.

    • 46 L3
      September 22, 2011 at 7:30 pm

      We need Bill Clinton like we need a hole in the head. Think about it, were it not for him Hillary might be President. If I were President Obama I would stay away from him like the plague. I hate Bill Clinton.

  7. September 22, 2011 at 11:09 am

    The media did its usual hack job again i see. However, I can’t help but roll my eyes at good old Bill. SOS Hillary is fantastic in her current role, but I’m hopeful that when she regrettably leaves her post, she will take her media hungry, loud mouth shill of a husband with her. Bill has been involved in too many media-drummed up controversies. I’m sick of it. He needs to take himself out of the equation because he’s been a detriment from the onset.

    • September 22, 2011 at 11:15 am

      Wishful thinking Lisalovesobama. Clinton loves the spotlight and cameras. He thrives on it. Has anyone seen or heard him say anything about the repeal of DADT? Did the media ask him about it’s repeal?

      • September 22, 2011 at 12:50 pm

        thats a good point COS- regarding DADT.. I’ve not read a word of anything Bill Clinton may have said about it’s repeal.

      • 50 Obama Grandmama
        September 22, 2011 at 2:56 pm

        I saw an earlier interview when the repeal was being considered. Clinton said of course it would be good that the country has evolved to it now but it was not at that point when he was Prez and he got what he could get then.

  8. 51 meabloom
    September 22, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Thanks for correctly what he said BUT I still see Clinton as a HATER. Plain and simple. I’m sorry. I think he may be a little jealous of PBO because despite what the media may say about him he is actually doing a great job at leading the country. HE knows he will get a second term. And he keeps throwing his ¢2 everywhere like it’s needed. He’s smiling in PBO’s face and talking behind his back and I personally don’t like those kind of people.

  9. September 22, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Clinton has not come to fully realize that he’s no longer the President.

  10. 59 Me4obama
    September 22, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Like I said in my above comment we are going to need Bill Clinton in 2012 and I hope he delivers until then I still and will always Love him regardless of some stunts he pulls every now and then. And Hillary is a GOOD SOS, and I hope her legacy reflects the hard work she has done for PBO and the World.

    • September 22, 2011 at 11:31 am

      it’s unfortunate then that his “stunts” seem to keep overshadowing the wonderful works of his wife and PBO. But you know, I admire loyalty………….I still call first dibs on PBO, though 🙂

      • 61 Me4obama
        September 22, 2011 at 11:43 am

        🙂 you know Lisa the ONLY time you get an invite in Cable Tele these days is if you have something Negative to say about PBO and it happened when Bill Clinton is everywhere promoting his Global initiative 😉

        • 62 hopefruit2
          September 22, 2011 at 12:44 pm

          I agree Me4, that it’s the MEDIA that we need to focus our attention and anger on – not so much Clinton. He’s just another tool that they are desperately searching for in their bag of overused worn-out tricks to tear down our President. Bill Clinton is past his prime and he will NOT overshadow our current President, no matter how much the media tries. And they will keep trying through November 2012. Three weeks ago, Maxine Waters was in vogue. At one time it was West and Smiley. Now it’s Big Dog. Next month it will be another Repub. Bachman and Perry are fading…Huntsman has faded…now they are hoping for savior Romney.

          Suskind was trotted out hoping his book would explode into a huge scandal for the President, but that does not seem to be working out as planned.

          No matter what they throw at our President, he simply keeps going on. It drives them CRAZY as hell, but that’s what happens when you deliberately try to being a good person down.

    • 63 prettyfoot58
      September 22, 2011 at 11:37 am

      hmmmmm….
      not if he keep pulling stunts like this…all it does is cause confusion…but hell…these are democrats…there is never a united front

  11. 64 carolyn
    September 22, 2011 at 11:38 am

    I think yardarm has a strong point, that Clinton doesn’t realize he’s not president any more. Does anyone else remember his LONG goodbye…how they had to nearly carry him out of the White House…how after the inauguration, he gave a speech at the hanger before he boarded his plane to New York…..how he went on and on and on……I remember that, because I remember watching part of it…I couldn’t stand to watch GWB smirk at the parade, but Clinton just talked and talked and talked….couldn’t let go. The only good thing GWB did, was leave quickly. The Bidens and Obamas saw them off, and they were gone. No long goodbyes, no hanging on. Of course, I think GWB had an idea what a mess he’d left for President Obama and wanted to get out of town before the President found out!

  12. September 22, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Good Morning TOD Family

    So sad about Troy Davis. We can only hope that his death spurs on the movement to eliminate the death penalty.

    In the last thread a few folks were mentioning that we need to get busy to get our selves out of the funk we are in.

    Well I can help with that

    I have modified the contact list for elected officials and it now has a section for Democrats who are not supporting the AJA.

    Want to vent your frustrations??

    CALL TO ACTION – email, tweet, call,

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/05/contact-congress-address-phone-twitter.html#DEM-AJA

    one more detail, I know I have left names off the list so post them below, I am swamped today but will add them tomorrow.

    I have a feeling this is a group we will need to contact often to encourage them to get with the program.

  13. September 22, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Believe me PBO is not dumb, he knows what’s going on.

    Have you noticed though that the media addresses Clinton as President Clinton and addresses PBO as Mr. Obama.

    • 72 Debz
      September 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm

      Most of the time they don’t even bother with the “Mr” It’s just “Obama” or in Tweety;s case “this guy.” I wish Clinton would just go away. He is getting all of the attention, yet the media has ignored every thing PBO has said or done at the UN, which is much more important, it’s sickening.

    • 73 Ladyhawke
      September 22, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      Here’s a tweet for the lazy media stenographers who need to grow up and show some journalistic integrity………..

      It’s “President Obama”, not Mr. Obama, Obama, or Bam

      • 74 hopefruit2
        September 22, 2011 at 12:51 pm

        Yes I agree about the disrespect.

        There is one exception where I think “Obama” is actually used respectfully by his supporters, because the term “Obama” is a brand an an entity unto itself and doesn’t need the title of “President” to elevate it. Kind of like “Gandhi” being used instead of his full name or title before it.

        And Clinton is not getting all of the attention – the media is just making it look that way. And this too shall pass. Just watch.

      • September 22, 2011 at 1:14 pm

        Honestly I like the nickname Bam. Its like Bam Bam from The Flintstones or the sound of something being pounded or when Pres. Obama is pounding his opponents.

  14. September 22, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    I just have to voice my opinion of Bill Clinton. Some may disagree with me but he and the rest of Hillary’s supporters have not gotten over her loss to Pres. Obama. He was supposed to take a back seat to her and not run in 2008. They will never get over this. And to be honest, I put her in that camp as well. I know she’s been a good SOS, but that’s because it has served her interests. It rehabed her image after the horrible, vindictive, republican like primary she ran against a fellow democrat.

    Hillary could stop all of her folks like Carville and Bill from saying what they say, but she has not done so.

    Clinton was not a great president. He did not have the discipline that Pres Obama has or the smarts. And those who think he was such a great communicator are off base. He does not compare with Pres Obama. Clinton never moved me to campaign for him, to volunteer hours to register voters, to donate my hard-earned money. But Pres Obama did.

    Clinton didn’t win a Nobel Prize. But he did give us DADT, NAFTA, the three strikes law that has incarcerated more black men than ever, and throwing women and families off welfare.

    Clinton did not have the family values that Pres Obama has and he just pales in comparison in every way. He knows it and that’s why he’s working so hard to undermine our great president.

    I have no use for Bill, Hillary or any of the folks (Carville, George, etc) from their era. Their attacks (Mark Penn!) are a concerted effort against the President. But just like we did in the 2008 primaries, Pres Obama and we will prevail.

    • September 22, 2011 at 1:02 pm

      Have to agree Proud. I did vote for Bill Clinton, but I was disappointed in him, I’ve never approved of his behavior and felt he did his own bit to diminish the office of the Presidency by being very small and rather trashy.. with that said- he did some good things for the country and as a democrat I supported him.. and even Hillary when she was First Lady. I supported POTUS’s choice of her for SoS and as far as I’ve seen she’s done an outstanding job in that arena- and has been strong in supporting Pres Obama. However, I do not believe that Bill Clinton is being “used” by the media as others here have written. I believe Bill Clinton is remarkably savvy about the media- especially the likes of Newsmax.. he absolutely knows to whom he is speaking and precisely how they will twist and spin whatever he says. I don’t think we can ever forget that politicians, as well as any professional person are in fact just – people… with egos, with jealousies, with their own feelings of insecurity and inferiority- and arrogance. Bill Clinton has proven he is fully capable of lying, manipulating and fabricating for his own benefit.

      • 78 edp4bho
        September 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm

        My self-made motto has been for a long time….”People know what they do”! Oh, the Rhodes Scholar knows exactly what he’s doing, and Ms. SOS lets him do it. Believe me, she has sway over him after the embarrassment he caused her in the WH. He owes her, big time.

    • 79 edp4bho
      September 22, 2011 at 1:04 pm

      “I put her in that camp as well. I know she’s been a good SOS, but that’s because it has served her interests. It rehabed her image after the horrible, vindictive, republican like primary she ran against a fellow democrat.

      Hillary could stop all of her folks like Carville and Bill from saying what they say, but she has not done so.”

      You and I are definitely in sync today. My feelings to a T. Just love how you tell it, Proud. Straight, no chasers. Fierce 😀

      • 80 Chi
        September 23, 2011 at 4:31 am

        Rev. Al called them the Clinton apostles…

        Mark Penn, Carville, Begala…

        They are all part of the No Labels group fundraising for republicans to defeat President Obama…

    • 81 L3
      September 22, 2011 at 7:45 pm

      I totally agree and I believe his deviant behavior in the oval office is directly responsible for the George W. Bush presidency. I don’t think the election would have been close enough to steal were it not for Bill and Monica. Remember, W. ran to restore honor and dignity to the oval office. I have no respect for Hillary for remaining with a serial adulterer. Maybe the presidency was supposed to be her reward.

    • 83 Chi
      September 23, 2011 at 4:26 am

      Absolutely spot on ProuofObama…

  15. 84 tally
    September 22, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    I think the biggest problem here is that our media is legally allowed to LIE. Forget the infinite details of what they’ve lied about, we need to STOP IT.

    Does ANYONE HERE have ANY connections to ANYONE IN CONGRESS???? We need to get someone to introduce a bill that will make it ILLEGAL FOR ANYONE IN A NEWS FUNCTION TO LIE.

    Like Canada.

    • September 22, 2011 at 1:33 pm

      Good idea. If we could get it done most talking heads and tv journalist would be out of a job. Hell, our unemployment figures would jump up a coupla points. 🙂

  16. September 22, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Tally, that would be OH so great but to get that into law in this country you can’t print enough money to pay for it to pass.

    • 87 tally
      September 22, 2011 at 1:06 pm

      But we COULD make a fuss, and EXPOSE how it’s LEGAL TO LIE, and get some INK on the issue. That would be better than doing nothing.

      • September 22, 2011 at 1:29 pm

        Tally, you are right about the fuss and the ink that is why we must keep tweeting and e-mailing and calling everytime the fools tell the lies and not the complete story of a issue.

  17. September 22, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Do you all remember bill Clinton putting his foot in his mouth and embarrassing Hillary Clinton during the primaries? I wasn’t rooting for HRC but I do remember thinking that her husband and her campaign staff were doing a lot of damage to her candidacy.

  18. 90 Obama Grandmama
    September 22, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    I had questioned reading that Clinton had said he didn’t think we should have any new taxes now last night. I had asked what anyone knew about that knowing things are so misrepresented that you cannot believe the news. I had gone on the OFA site and read a post probably by one of the trolls hanging around there about it. I then read a news article saying the same thing so am so glad you addressed this, Chips. Thanks.

    • 91 Obama Grandmama
      September 22, 2011 at 3:09 pm

      After reading through the blog I see it is highly likely Clinton did criticize Obama and see where my brother got his idea that people were trying to get Hillary to run instead of Obama for 2012.

      • 92 Chi
        September 23, 2011 at 4:44 am

        Well they’ll fail…

        I think people tend to discount and overlook President Obama’s solid base and following…

        If they try that crap, the Democratic party will fall apart and it will be 50 years before another Democrat sees the White House…

        Maybe that’s why the Republicans are pushing this idea hard…

        Complimenting Hillary and joining with former Clintonites out in the wilderness to form alliances and groups and suddenly elevating Bill Clinton…

        They even have Dick Cheney suddenly praising Hillary and touting her as president…

        The republicans are pretty cunning and know very well how to wind up the Clintons…using their huge egos to disrupt the party…

        And they are doing this successfully and actually getting them and their people to feed into the very bogus Clinton rocks mindset…

        They will push this to full effect to divide the Democratic party and the Clintons would have been witting or unwitting cohorts…


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