fighting to the end

Steve Benen: Michael Moore had an item this afternoon about the looming Troy Davis execution:

“President Obama: Can’t you do like Kennedy & send in federal troops to stop this injustice in Georgia? The buck stops with u.”

… I can appreciate why it might seem as if the buck always stops with a president, but in the Davis case, it’s not Obama’s call.

When presidents during the civil rights era ordered federal troops into the South, they were enforcing federal law. Eisenhower and JFK clearly had the authority to act …. Obama doesn’t have the authority to “send in federal troops” to stop the execution.

….. presidential clemency isn’t an option here ….. he has no legal authority to get involved, officially, with a state execution. When the death penalty is imposed for a state crime like murder, it is a state issue.

Full post here

210 Responses to “fighting to the end”

  1. 1 COS
    September 21, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Thanks Steve Benen for this. April Ryan need to read this. Everyone want to lay everything at PBO’s doorstep and feet. He is not a miracle worker and there are limitations on what he can do. I am praying for this family..

  2. September 21, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Cenk on Randi pissing and moaning. what an ass. Seriously. Is it me or is he still implicating PBO in his departure from MSNBFOX?

    • 3 COS
      September 21, 2011 at 4:51 pm

      Yes, I posted the link on the last thread. I guess she is sympathetic to him because of the way she was treated at Air America. He will be the lead in to KO’s show. I just heard him call his show a progressive show. What a crock.

      • 4 theo67
        September 21, 2011 at 5:09 pm

        Just like this Republican party isn’t your father’s Republican party, today’s progressives aren’t your father’s progressives. Different beasts entirely.

    • September 21, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      I’ve never seen so many ignorant behind “smart folks” in my life, lisa. Those like Cenk and some of the others who think that PBO can intervene in issues simply because he wants to need to sit down, shut up, and read Article II of the U.S. Constitution. People like these folks should never make fun of the tea partiers’ about their failure to understand what is/isn’t in the Constitution ever again because some of them are in the same category.

    • 11 Eleroy
      September 21, 2011 at 9:16 pm

      Once in a while Randi makes me scratch my head and this Cenk move was one of those. But I exercised my right to switch off and I did!!!
      Randi is smart as a whip and has common sense in boatloads so I’ll have to trust that she knows what she’s doing. I just won’t go along with any of the Nicole sanders, Cenk shit though!!!

      Love Randi, but I will always take a pass on her PL friends and associates!!!

  3. 13 Me4obama
    September 21, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Please try to go on TWITTER and Blast the Hell out of Michael Moore. After sending him many, many Tweets he has Blocked Me. Am Mad as Hell and he won’t getaway with this. He said the Back Stops with Obama to save Troy Davis.

  4. September 21, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    But but but, it sure gives MM the sound bite and gets people really really angry!
    Sadly, 25% of progressives are Ron Paul supporters! This should tell us everything!

    • 18 Puddin'
      September 21, 2011 at 5:13 pm

      Michael Moore is stupid and anybody who thinks has he does is stupid! We (I) can not worry about nor do anything about every stupid person that has something stupid to say about President Obama. Michael Moore is disingenuous and he has an agenda…I wouldn’t be surprised if he wasn’t being paid by the “enemy”.

    • 19 Eleroy
      September 21, 2011 at 9:22 pm

      I wish someone would explain to these mindless “liberals” who think Ron Paul is great that because this John Birch racist Paul is for legalization of drugs and “against” wars, on the surface of it, does not mean that he truly shares any real PROGRESSIVE values or sane reasoning behind some of his seemingly endearing and commonly shared opinions!!!

      Ron Paul is pure evil and has managed to convince a few single issue potheads that he is somehow ‘progressive” when he actually embodies and promotes some of the worst, regressive and racist ideas that date back to the 18th century!!!

    • 20 kefauver
      September 21, 2011 at 10:53 pm

      Yeah, because he’s anti-war and pro drugs! They could care less about all the other twisted shit he supports. As long as he supports their pot habit and doesn’t start another war, he’s cool in their book. They totally gloss over the fact that he’s a racist, anti-woman, goldbug crackpot.

  5. 21 Me4obama
    September 21, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Sorry I meant the “BUCK” Stops with Obama. Thats what Moore said. Sorry I can’t see straight

  6. 22 lmrj
    September 21, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    I tweeted his sorry butt REPEATEDLY. Told him that he needs an 8th grade civics education, because he doesn’t know the difference between the FEDERAL level and the STATE level.

  7. September 21, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Good read from Electablog if you haven’t seen it.

    The progressive left didn’t push Obama to the left, he’s been waiting for America to join him there.


  8. 26 SAB
    September 21, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    I think it is just a ploy on Michael Moore’s part to get more people angry at the president in order to primary him or vote against him. It’s just too much. I am really getting down. I think I need to take a break from poltics for awhile. It’s too stressful with the day to day up and downs. I need to reserver my energy for when the campaign season really takes off.

  9. September 21, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Ron Pail just made a statement saying he would put Dennis kucinich in his cabinet!

    You see? Ron Paul supporters in the democratic caucus?

  10. 29 utaustinliberal
    September 21, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Once again, Michael Moore makes it about himself. There are certain laws that belong to the States only and certain laws that belong to the Federal Government only. This is such a case. President Obama can’t always intercede as much as I’m sure he would like to; especially in this case. Moore needs a middle school civics education and a high school government education because he spews a lot of ignorant nonsense.

    • 30 jacquelineoboomer
      September 21, 2011 at 6:23 pm

      Next, we’ll see MM in a rowboat on the Potomac, using a megaphone to shout out to PBO. The guy is a big, ugly joke.


  11. 31 bonkers
    September 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    Hopefully y’all here have been turning all this nonsense of the “true progressives” into a positive, and realizing that we don’t want these people on our team. There’s no sense EVER in trying to please them, or courting them and trying to get them involved with whatever we’re doing. Notice how just a couple of days ago Moore was all happy with President Obama because Stanley Ann’s son simply said and did what he always says and does, as if it was some revelation to Moore, and now literally the next day Moore is all negative again with the latest poutrage du jour? And as the article points out, Moore is simply wrong. Will you see him correct himself….not likely.

    “True progressives” are all over the place, at all times. They in-fight at the slightest nuance that might be disagreed upon. I just read one of my old haunts yesterday for the first time in many weeks, and the thread was one of the biggest threads he ever had and it was all people intensely arguing with each other about all things Ralph Nader…current, 2000, and all the way to his 60s activism. It was all worth spending countless energy and hours on for these “true progressives.” What a freakin’ waste of time and energy!

    As our great sage, Al Giordano always says, “we don’t want these people in our foxholes.” I’ve been on the Board of Directors for some small nonprofits, and you see these same people crop up often in that world. All they do is sew discontent, worry, and negativity. They stifle progress and change. They do not improve things that they claim to care about. They make things worse. This can’t be anymore clear over these few years of incredible accomplishment from our incredible President, and their reactions to it.

    So the positive take away from all this is to appreciate it when you find good people who can find compromise on the important overarching goals, and work, yes actually work as a team together with a plan to accomplish those goals. Hopefully we call can recognize these traits in people better now, and we all can be more picky who we decide to partner with when we work on issues on our communities.

  12. 36 PoliticalJunkessa
    September 21, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Why the hell are so many people obsessed with PBO in this type of way? My first thought about this case was could the Supreme Court stay the execution, not whether PBO would send in the troops! I think it’s intellectual laziness that refuses to understand how government works combined with a creepy obsession with PBO that infects these PL types.

    The Supreme Court would be Mr. Davis’ last hope since the local judiciary and the governor show no signs of moving. I truly hope they intervene.

    • 37 donna dem 4 obama
      September 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm

      It’s the most outrageous thing that I have seen in my lifetime. They criticize everything PBO does because he doesn’t do it to their liking but yet they continue to call on him to intervene and fix every damn problem in America.

      My heart goes out for Troy and his family. I pray for a miracle but the likes of MM and others need the STHU about what this President “needs” to do.

    • 38 Eleroy
      September 21, 2011 at 8:05 pm

      This case has spanned 4 presidencies: Bush 1, 2 Clinton terms and 2 Bush 2 terms and not a peep from any of these idiots!!!

      Now the usual suspects are at it once again, sitting around running their mouths exploting this case and using Troy Davis as yet another pawn in their transparent game of blame and bash President Obama!!!

      These people will all get what is coming to them!!!

  13. 40 donna dem 4 obama
    September 21, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Is there anything that isn’t the President’s fault? Just sayin…

  14. 43 Fred
    September 21, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    hello Constitution class Michael Moore 🙄

  15. 44 nintendowii10
    September 21, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    I’ve had it with that fat piece of shit Michael Moore. We have a likely innocent man about to be put to death and instead of being positive, Michael Moore once again exploits this event to get attention for HIMSELF!

    And I’m STILL peeved at him for saying he voted for the black guy and got the white guy, his fat racist ass needs to do some time on the treadmill and more importantly, STFU!!!!!

  16. September 21, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Somehow I doubt Troy Davis is terribly important to Michael Moore other than in the way that he can use him as one more way to attack President Obama. His stupidity here- and his bias – is no different than that of Sarah Palin at this point.

    I’m so sorry for Mr. Davis and his family and for all of the folks who’ve worked so hard to prevent his execution over the years. I honestly believe at this point that they are going forward merely because they are unwilling to admit that they may have made a grave error. Its the saddest thing there is, to execute a person who may be innocent… which is exactly why we should really put a stop to capitol punishment.

    • 46 Fred
      September 21, 2011 at 6:02 pm

      remember when Moore went to Wisconsin “fighting” for Union members the whole time he hired non-union members on the set of a movie or was it a house he was building? 🙄

    • 50 nintendowii10
      September 21, 2011 at 6:02 pm

      Michael Moore is no better than the right wing shitbags cheering for Troy Davis’ death. I bet deep down Michael Moore is also cheering for Troy Davis’ execution, so that he can continue to blame President Obama and call him a failure.

      • 51 Jennifer
        September 21, 2011 at 6:25 pm

        You may be on to something there. I made the mistake of flipping over to CNN when Ari F made his debut. Unbelievable. Sickening doesn’t even describe it. WTF is going on? And Tweety apparently not getting what a “reasonable doubt” is. CNN is going to get an tweetful of truth from me later. In the meantime I’m going to light another candle.

        I’m not much of a religious person (like in church going), but I TRULY wonder what would Jesus do – and think – if he did show up now?? I’m beyond words and can’t stop the tears.

        And MM can kiss my lily white ass.

        • 52 nintendowii10
          September 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm

          This is utterly shameful, that the professional left and right wing media are milking out this man’s execution for ratings and money.

          We truly are a fucked up society, where our media can’t even give Troy Davis the respect he deserves before he is put to death.

        • 53 Eleroy
          September 21, 2011 at 8:15 pm

          Randi Rhodes confirmed on her show several shows ago that she was at CNN and that they told her that they were shifting to a strictly “conservative”-right wing perspective!!!

          So no more need to wonder the why’s and wherefore’s of it. CNN is now officially FOX II.

      • 54 Fred
        September 21, 2011 at 6:40 pm

        hell I hope someone questions the President and I pray he whoops the Constitution book out and tells him to piss off 🙄

  17. 56 Marlz (@marjgra)
    September 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Hi All. . . Still learning to tweet!
    What does RT mean? Re-tweet?

  18. September 21, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    House rejects temporary spending bill…
    It’s under the radar, but this cr has to ne done by September 30th, or we have a shutdown!
    And, cingress goes on vacation on Friday!

    Here we go again!!!

    • September 21, 2011 at 6:13 pm

      But the good news is that the vote was 195 to 230. Many Republicans broke with leadership and joined democrats to vote against the bill due to the offset for FEMA funds. I believe this is a start of the crumbling of the Republicans because they are starting to balk at the ludicrous tactics. This follows the resignation of Lamar Alexander who cited that he cannot vote against his conscience.

  19. 63 Linda
    September 21, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    I live in Atlanta.

    The last execution here was video taped by court order because of the drug they use here to do it. Another person on death row went to court to get it because his lawyers believe what they are using falls under cruel and inhumane treatment because they used it on another man and he convulsed and his body jerked around several times.

    I think is the same drug they use on animals called nembutal.

  20. 64 Bobfr
    September 21, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Our4thEstate Bobfr
    @MMFlint Urge you to call the #EmoprogSyndromeSufferers hot line STAT #GetAClueNEWSTAINERS


  21. 66 QuietObserver
    September 21, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Well, it’s in SCOTUS hands now. They granted a stay 3 years ago, will they do it again within the next 50 minutes?

  22. 70 nintendowii10
    September 21, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Also, Michael Moore has the same knowledge of the Constitution as Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann, which is DIDDLY SQUAT!

    The only thing President Obama could do is call for a federal investigation into the matter, and he’s not likely to because the media would spin it as big federal government getting into a state level issue… plus there’s no guarantee that the end result will be that Troy Davis lives. What if, after said federal investigation, we’re right back to square one and Troy Davis ends up dying anyways? President Obama would have wasted a lot of taxpayer dollars for no reason. If the odds were better, perhaps President Obama would take that risk, but he’s not one to play games with the lives of others, especially in a case like Troy Davis where the system is rigged against him.

    Perhaps its fate that Troy Davis is put to death so that we can reflect on how inhumane the death penalty is, and how badly our legal system is. Regardless, Michael Moore needs to study the Constitution and actually educate himself as opposed to being a misinformed dumbass.

  23. 71 chiara
    September 21, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    Just replied to Micheal Moore’s tweet, reminding him that the president has no legal authority to stop this or send anyone in as it’s not a federal case.

    Of course if conservatives were calling for a conservative president to try to intercede in a state case Micheal would be the first to cry foul.

  24. September 21, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    Rep John Larson has introduced President Obama’s American Jobs Act. Here we go!!

  25. 76 nintendowii10
    September 21, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    repost from last night:

  26. 77 Fred
    September 21, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    oh gawd have mercy on me;I got really close to calling SP something nobody should be calling anyone

    Sarah Palin Praises Lamestream AP’s Misleading ‘Fact Check’ For Exposing Obama’s ‘Lies’

    Fact-Checking The Fact-Checkers: The AP Releases Misleading Analysis Of Obama’s Tax Plan

  27. 78 Linda
    September 21, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    Breaking News..

    Troy Davis lawyers have asked the Supreme Court to stop this.

    (they turned down the case previously )

  28. 85 donna dem 4 obama
    September 21, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    I’m going home now and I intend to be in constant prayer for the next 28 minutes. Hopefully there is a miracle left in this life for Troy.

  29. 87 Fred
    September 21, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    You Lie: GOP Rep. Wilson Informs GOP Rep. McKeon That Defense Cuts Will Not Require A Draft

    VIDEO:Rep. McKeon: Defense Cuts Could Necessitate Draft

  30. 88 Marlz (@marjgra)
    September 21, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Hi All. . . HELP!!
    For those of us still learning how to “tweet,” would it be possible if something comes up, such as the nonsense from Michael Moore, to leave his tweet address (??) so we can send to him? eg. . . @MichaelMoore, etc . . . do not know how to search for an address as yet!

    Thanks. . .

  31. 92 meabloom
    September 21, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    This man is a new kind of insane. Why do they constantly attack President Obama?? This is so tiresome and OLD!! It suck the energy out of me to read something said or listen to them sometimes. It is crazy of me to only want to hear good when it comes to Obama. I can’t see how the president puts up with it most of the time. You really have to have tough skin and it is crystal clear to me that President Obama has just maybe the toughest skin there is. I’m a way past proud of him.


  32. 94 Linda
    September 21, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    PHOTOS: Protesters Around The World Oppose Execution Of Troy Davis


  33. September 21, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Troy Davis’ emergency petition to the Supreme Court:


  34. 96 Linda
    September 21, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    omg…they have riot police at the execution.

  35. 97 nintendowii10
    September 21, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Just said a kind prayer for Troy Davis and his family.

  36. 98 bootoomee
    September 21, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    People please where is that champion of ‘free black men’ Corny West in all these?

    I can see Rev. Al doing what he’s always done but I suspect that if the ‘brother, Dr, Professor’ is going to say anything it will be to similarly blame PBHO for this. I am just diappointed (NOT) that he is not at the fore-front in the struggle to free this black man!

    • 99 Eleroy
      September 21, 2011 at 8:25 pm

      They NEVER show up!!! Not Cornel West, Not Tavos Smiley, Not Michael Eric Dyson!!! There’s no money to be made and no opportunities to pawn books or do a minstrel show!!!

      They sit on the sidelines scratching their crotches, picking their noses and waiting for a way to turn this into a money making, Obama bashing tour or book sale!!!

  37. 100 Me4obama
    September 21, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    4 minutes to go. I can’t breathe now.

    • September 21, 2011 at 6:59 pm

      Just saw this on twitter:

      The US Supreme Court now has all the filings it needs to make a ruling on the #TroyDavis execution and a ruling is expected shortly. #CNN

      There’s no time!!

  38. 104 Me4obama
    September 21, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Execution Delayed.

  39. 107 meabloom
    September 21, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    It was Delayed! Thank God! God is truly with this man.

  40. September 21, 2011 at 7:06 pm


  41. September 21, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    I think this simply means that the US Supreme Court must have time to review the facts of the case.

  42. 123 Linda
    September 21, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Rev Al…and Matthews still don’t know….

  43. 124 Linda
    September 21, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    This is cruel and inhumane……

  44. 125 Bobfr
    September 21, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    thinkprogress ThinkProgress
    NAACP President says US Supreme Court asked to briefly delay so it could issue its ruling. Could be minutes or hours at most (via @mpoppel)


  45. September 21, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Well, president Clinton says we should not be raising taxes with this economy!

    Undermine, much bill?

  46. 128 donna dem 4 obama
    September 21, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    This man’s poor family have to be going out of their mind. I’m a nervous wreck so I can only imagine what they are going through. I’ll go back to praying.

  47. September 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    FORBES: KOCH BROTHERS NOW WORTH $50 BILLION | Forbes estimates that Tea Party petrochemical scions Charles and David Koch have a fortune of $25 billion each, making them the fourth richest Americans, behind only Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Larry Ellison. Their combined wealth of $50 billion is exceeded only by the Microsoft founder’s $59 billion fortune. Buoyed by aggressive speculative trading on volatile energy markets, the Koch brothers accumulated $15 billion in wealth since March 2010, a 43 percent increase.

     Think progress-

  48. 130 EDP4BHO
    September 21, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Praying is all we can do everybody. Even if you don’t believe in prayer, atleast get righteously angry at the inhumanity of these Georgia officials. And please be ready to take down any and every body who tries to pin this on PBO’s head- he who would undoubtedly put an end to this madness instead of end to Davis’ life, if it were his call to make. I am so sure PBO has prayed about this. He and FLOTUS.

  49. 131 nintendowii10
    September 21, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Hope (Twista ft. Faith Evans)

  50. 132 EDP4BHO
    September 21, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Riot police just waiting to mete justice to hurt people. Reminds me of Bull Connor and them.

  51. September 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Whoa, did may be the nicest thing I”ve ever said about Clarence Thomas if this is true…good on you Clarence!

    From twitter: @yayayarndiva P. Mimi Poinsett MD

    Mind officially blown- Clarence Thomas requested time for SCOTUS review of Troy Davis case

  52. September 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Why hasn’t MM single handedly stopped this execution?
    Why hasn’t he used his Green Lantern ring, and punched a fat hole through the walls of that prison?
    What is he waiting for?

  53. 138 EDP4BHO
    September 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    The family of the cop says they know there are some doubts, but they want justice. I cannot feel for them who don’t want absolute proof of the real killer. They would not be getting justice, so they are wrong-headed and operating out of anger. Nope!

    • 139 nintendowii10
      September 21, 2011 at 7:48 pm

      They don’t want justice, they want vengeance and revenge. They don’t care who dies for their loved one’s death, even if it’s the wrong man.

      I love how Reverend Al worded it, how Mark McPhail would once again be made a victim should Troy Davis be executed.

    • 140 gcwp1
      September 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      That doesn’t even make sense. If they know there are doubts, then it is not justice.

  54. September 21, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Democracy Now: Troy Davis Execution Delayed For One Week While SCOTUS Considers Petition


  55. September 21, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    This is such a sad, crazy spectacle.

  56. 145 ChristiMtl
    September 21, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Supreme Court will reportedly decide on Troy Davis case by 8:30 EST

  57. September 21, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Thursday’s big story: House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) will face off against top Obama administration officials Thursday during a hearing on the White House’s “green jobs” push.

    Expect Issa to blast the administration, pointing to a report by Republican committee staff that says President Obama’s green jobs initiatives are “propaganda.”

    You can read more about the report here.

    The hearing will offer Republicans their latest opportunity to pummel the administration for approving a $535 million loan guarantee to failed California solar firm Solyndra.

    The hearing will include testimony from Deputy Energy Secretary Daniel Poneman, Labor Secretary Hilda Solis and Bureau of Labor Statistics Commissioner Keith Hall.

    Here’s a taste of what Poneman will tell the committee, via his prepared remarks:

    “We have a choice to make today — we can compete successfully in the global marketplace — creating American jobs and selling American products — or we can resign ourselves to importing more of the technologies of tomorrow from abroad. We are therefore taking measures to successfully compete in these emerging global industries and to diversify our energy portfolio by investing in clean energy.”

    Watch for a counter-offensive from Democrats, who will likely point to reports (like this one in The Hill) that Issa and other Republicans have pressed the Energy Department for loan guarantees for projects in their home states.

  58. September 21, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    In 2006, Terri Schiavo had a similar case, albeit, hers was a case on whether or not to remove a feeding tube!
    These two cases should have inspired some movement, in either state or federal law!

  59. September 21, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    I do not understand why in the hell they wait until the very last minutes to grant a delay… I’m very glad they’ve done so, I just don’t get the reasoning for the added drama.

  60. 149 lmrj
    September 21, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Think Michael Moore blocked me from tweeting to him. Guess Mr. Thin-skinned CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

    • 150 hopefruit2
      September 21, 2011 at 8:38 pm

      They can dish it but they can’t take it. COWARD piece of scum. Attention-seeking whore. Anyone who’s reading this Tell MM I said he could go to HELL!

  61. September 21, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    The US Federal Reserve has announced that it will launch a new $400bn programme to help the beleaguered US economy by attempting to exert downward pressure on long-term interest rates and to aid the battered housing sector.

    In a statement released on Wednesday, the central bank said that its programme would tilt its $2.85 trillion balance sheet more heavily towards long-term securities by selling short-term notes and using those funds to buy longer-dated treasuries.

    It will also be reinvesting proceeds from maturing mortgage and agency bonds back into the mortgage market.

    “Recent indicators point to continuing weakness in overall labour market conditions, and the unemployment rate remains elevated,” the Fed said in its statement.


  62. September 21, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Well, Suskind is on LOD show! Beltway media eating this shit up!

    • September 21, 2011 at 8:36 pm

      Bashir smashed him, excellent 😉

      • September 21, 2011 at 8:39 pm

        Good! Because, I changed it!
        Hopefully, a video of it later?

      • 155 Me4obama
        September 21, 2011 at 8:40 pm

        Oh thank you chipsticks, I changed the channel before he came on so I don’t have to listen to his garbage. Jonathan Alter is going to respond.

        • September 21, 2011 at 8:50 pm

          Alter was excellent, stopped marginally short of declaring Suskind to be a lying asshole 😉

          • 157 hopefruit2
            September 21, 2011 at 9:30 pm

            Here is tweet from Jonathan Alter before he appeared on the show tonight.

            //”Going on MSNBC re my book vs Suskind’s. We have v diff takes on 2009 crisis. He thinks BO indecisive; I don’t. He hypes; I don’t.” ///

      • 158 Eleroy
        September 21, 2011 at 8:51 pm

        I was very impressed with Martin Bashir!!! He did an excellent job and even brought on Jonathan Alter who is much closer and has unfettered access to the WH, to knock down Suskind’s gossip rag!!!

        That Peter Orzag has got to be one of the biggest jerks out there!!! But no surprise he now works for Ron Suskind’s former bosses at the right wing Wall Street journal!!!

        • 159 Doris
          September 21, 2011 at 9:15 pm

          Martin has a pretty good show. I watch him everyday. He was on my list for a while because of MJ, but he has redeemed himself in his defense of the President.

      • 160 utaustinliberal
        September 21, 2011 at 8:52 pm

        I saw it too Chipsticks. Jonathan Alter was great too. He basically called Suskind a liar.

    • 162 hopefruit2
      September 21, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      Actually Bashir confronted him..and forced him to go on the defensive. If you watched the segment, Martin has seriously undermined his credibility. And Martin did not “agree” with him and bash the president with him.

      This was no John Stewart…

      • 163 Eleroy
        September 21, 2011 at 9:01 pm

        Hopefruit2, Martin Bashir was refreshingly effective in making Suskind look so stupid!!! I was so grateful for that push back I cried tears of relief!!!


        I hope that narcissistic, bitter jerk Jon Stewart stumbles and tumbles into obscurity!!!

      • 166 Me4obama
        September 21, 2011 at 9:03 pm

        He thought everyone was going to kiss his A..like Jon Stewart thanking him for the “investigative” work. I tweeted Martin and thanked him.

        • 167 Eleroy
          September 21, 2011 at 9:33 pm

          Thanks for tweeting Martin bashir, I just sent him an e-mail to thanking him!!!

          Everyone please send a message to Martin bashir to let him know that there is a huge audience out here that appreciated his take down of this asshole Ron Suskind!!!

          We have to start supporting and expressing our thanks LOUDLY to the very few people who do any good work in the media or they’ll slip into the more tempting monetarily rewarding crap shoot that has blanketed the U.S media!!!

          Write and tweet Martin Bashir right now!!!

      • September 21, 2011 at 9:19 pm

        Stewart really disappoints me. Started with him believing that smear campaign against ACORN and was just down hill from there.

        • 170 jacquelineoboomer
          September 21, 2011 at 9:23 pm

          The really annoying part is that most of these bashers probably don’t really believe what they are spewing. I think Jon Stewart has just prostituted his integrity for the show and the money and the implausible, narcissistic belief that he matters.

          • 171 Me4obama
            September 21, 2011 at 9:28 pm

            The one thing that hurts me the most is, I wasted my time and took two days off from work to go watch his rally to restore sanity. Boy I will regret that decission forever. I only watch Steven Colbert show now.

          • 173 Eleroy
            September 21, 2011 at 9:41 pm

            Totally on the mark jacquelinoboomer!!! I too think the same.

            Stewart’s quick and unquestioned embrace of Ron Suskind’s piece of crap was another attempt to seek validation of his ongoing and questionable attacks on President Obama!!!

            Jon realizes that he has been wrong but instead of fessing up and self-correcting, he digs in and in desperation begins to solicit ANY and EVERYTHING and person to validate his false narratives of President Obama!!!

            He looks so pathetic and foolish too doing this crap jig!!!

            • 174 jacquelineoboomer
              September 21, 2011 at 9:46 pm

              Yes! I just wish everybody who watches Jon Stewart would stop watching – and that a gazillion more would swing over to Stephen Colbert. I’d like to see Stephen’s show receive double the ratings as that jerk Stewart’s show. Or triple!

              • 175 JoJothecat
                September 22, 2011 at 1:08 am

                I will NO LONGER watch the court jester Jon Stewart ( mess it most of the time anyway). I will watch Stephen Colbert instead.

  63. 176 nintendowii10
    September 21, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    The mother of the police officer that Davis was convicted of killing told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that she is “absolutely devastated” that the execution has yet to happen.

    “I’m absolutely devastated because I want it over with. … They’ve been through the courts four times there in Georgia. They’ve been to the Supreme Court three times,” Anneliese MacPhail said in an interview from her home, referring to previous delays. “This delay, again, is very upsetting and I think very unfair to us.”

    “I’d like to close this book,” she said. “We feel (Davis is) guilty. The evidence and everything that we have seen – that I have seen , because I’ve been to all the trials – he is guilty, and I believe in that. And so does the rest of my family.”

    Unbelievable beyond words.

    • 177 Eleroy
      September 21, 2011 at 8:53 pm

      I bet she’s a God fearing Christian too!!!

      • 178 jacquelineoboomer
        September 21, 2011 at 9:20 pm

        I understand the devastation of the loss of her son, but couldn’t she somehow get to the point where the delays might be a sign – that perhaps his not being executed might give her more peace, in this case, than if he were?

  64. 179 Dakota
    September 21, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Just read that Troy Davis’ execution has been delayed for a week. Let pray that the SCOTUS does the right thing.

    One of the men that drug James Byrd to death in Jasper, Tx was executed today.

  65. September 21, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Miscellaneous–One week. Thank God, but where/how will this all end?????? Suskind on LO–muted TV as soon as I realized. I was on the phone w/my daughter. She is on her way home (Chesapeake, VA) from DC. She attended the 46 Mommas Shave for the Brave event at Union Station. An event to raise money and awareness for childhood cancer. Why #46? 46 kids are diagnosed with childhood cancer every day and 7 die every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Childhood cancer get VERY little funding from ACS and little funding from federal government. Very few people know about childhood cancer and all the statistics. Sadly, only way most people learn is if personally affected. Anyway, MY DAUGHTER HAS COMMITTED TO SHAVING AT THE EVENT NEXT YEAR in memory of Walker. I am SO proud of her. Get ready ’cause I’ll likely be “hitting y’all up” for support. 🙂

    • September 21, 2011 at 8:55 pm

      You have a great child tnmtngirl & I’ll be happy to support you and your daughter in any way I can. I HAD cancer and it can get to you.

    • 183 Doris
      September 21, 2011 at 9:11 pm

      I’m ready, hit me up. Thank your daughter for all that she is doing. Bless her heart. This brings tears to eyes. I have given often to St. Jude Medical for Children with cancer. Let us know how we can help.

      • September 21, 2011 at 9:56 pm

        Thank you. I won’t forget. 🙂 The event will be next September–don’t know location yet. Wish they would return to DC instead of changing locations again. (Hollywood last year.) They are all going to Capitol Hill tomorrow with their bald heads and some of them have their child who is currently in treatment. A huge impression for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  66. September 21, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    CHECKING OUT: President Obama met with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York on Wednesday night. Obama left the hotel at 7:39 p.m., about an hour behind schedule, according to pool reports.

  67. 189 jacquelineoboomer
    September 21, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Sometimes I like to play with dolts, just to annoy. My new tool is Twitter (ha ha).

    I noticed Mark Knoller had tweeted: “Meanwhile, Pres & Mrs. Obama are at the UN reception for world leaders at the grand NY Pulbic Library Bldg. No press coverage.”

    What did he mean by “Meanwhile,” I wondered! So I replied:

    @markknoller You might want to stop in the NY Public Library Bldg. and ask the research desk how to spell “Public.”

  68. September 21, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Apparently, more police are arriving on the scene outside GA prison. I don’t know what that means.

    • 195 jacquelineoboomer
      September 21, 2011 at 9:15 pm

      I’m catching up. A “delay” was granted, right? Realize a decision from the Supreme Court may be imminent.

    • 196 vero804
      September 21, 2011 at 9:36 pm

      This is so terrible. I feel for the family of the man who was murdered. They must feel like no one cares about their feelings. However, the issue right now is whether another life should be lost. There is reasonable doubt, IMO. I am curious why after all the appeals no one has taken him off of the death sentence, though. I will have to continue to read more about the many appeals and proceedings he has had.

      • September 21, 2011 at 9:43 pm

        Hi, Vero. I’m also curious about what has happened after each stay and why there hasn’t been a more thorough review. I think there have been 3 so far. So why is he in the very same predicament 4 times? It doesn’t make any sense.

        • 198 vero804
          September 21, 2011 at 9:53 pm

          Hey meta! Hope you are doing well.

          It seems like after the Oklahoma City bombing, a law was created to make it difficult for someone on death row to get their case re-opened if they want to present evidence that they “could have” presented during the original trial. So, apparently, the evidence of the people who recanted their testimony and those who said someone else confessed to killing McPhail was never brought back in front a trier of fact for consideration in Davis’s case.

          I hate to say this, but it appears many of the witnesses are less than choir men and women. Some of them seem to have criminal records. I wonder if that came out in his original trial? Gosh, the evidence just seems so thin for the death penalty…nothing like the Byrd case.

          • September 21, 2011 at 10:13 pm

            Thanks, Vero. Great to see you!

            If witnesses are recanting, it seems that should be the basis for re-opening a case. I hope we learn something new soon.

  69. September 21, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    No matter what you say about Reverend Al Sharpton, you can’t say he doesn’t walk the walk.

    • 201 jacquelineoboomer
      September 21, 2011 at 9:21 pm

      Exactly. He needs to keep it up. No matter what people say about him, he’s becoming my go-to-guy with his new show.

  70. September 21, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    That pig Mark Knoller snarkly tweeted: We’ve been told the venue for tomorrow’s event is muddy & to dress accordingly. I’m always ready for mud. Along with a $16 muffin.

    I tweeted back the following:

    @markknoller That $16 muffin still doesn’t compare to the 9 billion $$ that went missing in Iraq.

    • 203 jacquelineoboomer
      September 21, 2011 at 9:57 pm

      How unsophisticated Mark Knoller appears (like it’s his first time in The Big City, and we’re all supposed to feel sorry for him).

      Maybe I’ll tweet: If a $16 muffin appears too much for ya, why not go back to Hog Holler where you belong?

      Well, I would, but I don’t want him to block me – I may need him as a stress-reliever in the future. So, I’ll be good.

    • 204 anniebella
      September 22, 2011 at 8:36 am

      bjw2, did you hear back from the stupid idiot, the Tea Republican, the so call journalists, Mark Knoller

  71. 205 jacquelineoboomer
    September 21, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Having four separate execution dates previously set for Troy Davis is, in itself, cruel and inhuman punishment.

  72. 207 EDP4BHO
    September 21, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    SCOTUS refused the stay !!

  73. 208 kefauver
    September 21, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Okay, Moore has officially lost me. I used to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and write off his comments as idiotic mutterings due to frustration, comments that he would not likely make if thinking clearly. But this shit about the “buck stopping with Obama” coupled with the bullshit about “voting for the black guy and getting the white guy,” well, fuck you Mr. Moore.

  74. September 21, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Troy Davis was murdered at 11:08 pm 9/21/11. So much for reasonable doubt. 😦

  75. September 22, 2011 at 12:43 am

    Yes, Michael Moore, if only you had a fax machine connected to the White House so your instructions could be followed to the letter. Then, THEN, we would live in a land of justice and peace. What a fraud. How dare he try to muscle his face into this tragedy.

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