help me out here….

See Extreme Liberal’s post on Halperin’s history – here

So, MSNBC suspended Mark Halperin after he revealed his inner Teabagger by calling the President a “dick”.

Could anyone – anyone?! – explain to me why they now have him back on, regularly, as a supposed impartial analyst on President Obama? (Today, for example, he shared his expert opinion that the President is DOOMED!)

Are they serious?

If you’d like to ask MSNBC why they are still using this creep, you’ll find their contact details at What is Working (here)


Here’s what Steve Benen had to say at the time: …. If you can watch the video, note how Halperin, ostensibly one of the nation’s most influential pundits, was smiling, with a smug satisfaction. It wasn’t a word he just blurted out in the heat of a larger discussion – Halperin thought about it….

….There are a couple of angles to keep in mind here. The first is that Halperin’s credibility as an objective observer of political events has long been dubious, at best, but this morning’s little stunt should remove all doubt. In candor, I don’t much care that Halperin sides with the right over the left, and takes cheap shots at Democrats. I care that Halperin is presented to the public as a neutral, even-handed expert, when that’s plainly not the case. To this extent, the “dick” comment only helps bring an end to a thin pretense.

…  If the president stays cool, he’s an emotionless Mr. Spock. If the president shows some fire in the belly, he’s “a dick”.

What passes for mainstream political punditry in 2011 is too often a national embarrassment.

Full post here



Alex Pareene (June 2011): …. I don’t care what Halperin calls Barack Obama. But for the record, President Obama did not really act like a dick yesterday, which is unsurprising, because Mark Halperin is a horrible political analyst who is wrong about everything….

This is a great excuse for MSNBC to fire Halperin, though! I mean if they won’t fire him for being incompetent at understanding and explaining politics they now have an opportunity to fire him for being disrespectful and vulgar.

Being a professional observer of the “horse race” is bad enough, but Halperin doesn’t even understand the horse-race element of politics. He fails at being a hack. He’s too dumb to correctly parrot conventional wisdom. He is pretty sure Sarah Palin and Donald Trump are 2012 front-runners. He thought “suspending his campaign” to fix the economy and not knowing how many houses he has were both huge messaging victories for John McCain. He wrote a book about how to win in 2008 that predicted everything Hillary did, but in his world it all worked. He thought Bush’s political comeback would come any day now throughout the entirety of the years 2006-2008. He can’t interpret polls or see through the spin of GOP consultants who are much smarter than he….

So this indefinite suspension is a nice first step, but I bet it won’t be long before they allow him to come crawling back into Mika and Joe’s little parlor of inanity. (And will Joe get in trouble for egging him on? Does Joe get in trouble for anything?)

24 Responses to “help me out here….”

  1. 1 hopefruit2
    September 14, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    These are the elements that are sucking the economy dry. The corporations are hiring all these over-paid underworked “political pundits” to advance their propaganda laced with filth and bile, instead of hiring ordinary squalified workers to actually work and produce something of value to the country.

    When is America going to wake up and see what is going on here?

  2. 2 Brian
    September 14, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    It seems to me that with Halperin’s lousy record as a prognosticator, hearing him predict that the president is doomed is the surest bet yet for President Obama’s reelection chances.

    • 3 utaustinliberal
      September 14, 2011 at 3:56 pm

      My thoughts exactly. I turned on Morning Joe this morning and heard him offering his “non-partisan” doom and gloom rhetoric about NY09 and how it’s bad bad bad for President Obama and how he’s in trouble. I just cracked up and changed the channel because this is the same moron who predicted a win for John McCain and other political wins for republicans and all his predictions ended up a BIG FAIL. In my opinion, anytime he preaches doom and gloom for President Obama, I automatically expect positive outcomes for PBO.

  3. 4 Doris
    September 14, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    Thanks Firedup in CA. I got my bookmarks. 😀

  4. 6 Doris
    September 14, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    I truly can’t stand that guy.

  5. 7 dun
    September 14, 2011 at 3:49 pm

    Welcome to the real world. Greed have taking over and racism has accelerated. This Morning on the view here is my take .

    I read this as a person who have been through stereotype in my life and see why some white people can see racism and said it not racist. And this is not a humor quote by Moore it a real belief. they thought that voting for Obama because his skin color was black that he had some thug in him and they wanted a thug. (which his blackness is a thug and the whiteness is reasonable) get it all blacks is not thugs the News want you to believe that, all blacks can not sing, dance, play basketball, football ect. When some people going to realize nothing this man do will change some people mind because it’s black and white. That include some in the democratic party. They voted for Uncle Tom but got I Am A Man and now they demand for him to be like C. Thomas of the Republican party who gave up his voice as a black man in order to get and stay rich. I’m not only bashing some whites there are plenty of Blacks who does the same damn things (you talk like a white girl) if you are an A student (you acting white) white can’t call you a (nigger) but it’s cool for black to call each other nigger. So when you hear the PL complain its because they did not get their thug President who follow their advice. We got the I Am a Man President and I’m Going To Do It My Way. Go Obama !Win or Loose You Are The Man

    Most Black know that its fear of Blacks if you don’t want to call it racism. Ok, it can’t be Whites voted him in Office, yell! fear of Sarah.
    Kick me out if you want to I’m tired of playing these games. is it, of isn’t it . It is People now let fight it. Let’s change people fears.

    • 8 tally
      September 14, 2011 at 4:55 pm

      BRILLIANT POST babe!!! 😀

      I’ve been saying it forever – Obama will never be President Superfly, so STFU!

    • 9 EDP4BHO
      September 14, 2011 at 7:29 pm

      Another stray from my vacationing……dun, you tell the truth the way I like the truth to be told. No sugarcoating, just spit it out !

  6. 10 theo67
    September 14, 2011 at 3:52 pm

    I regret buying that stupid book of his about the Obama campaign. I absolutely will not pay a penny to go and see the movie. He’s a complete and clueless jerk.

  7. 11 Me4obama
    September 14, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Sarah Palin had sex with ex-NBA star Glen Rice, snorted cocaine and cheated on husband, book claims

    Originally Published:Wednesday, September 14th 2011, 10:56 AM
    Updated: Wednesday, September 14th 2011, 3:06 PM

    Charlie Neibergall
    Sarah Palin slept with ex NBA star Glen Rice, alleges Joe McGinniss in a new book

    Glen Rice was a college hoops star when he allegedly met Sarah Palin.
    Scandalizing Sarah
    Do the allegations in this book change your view of Sarah Palin?

    Yes, I thought she was a hypocrite, now I know it.
    No, these are all horrible rumors, I will defend her even stonger now.
    I don’t care, she’s not in charge of anything, who cares?

    Sarah Palin bedding basketball star Glen Rice, snorting cocaine and cheating on her husband?

    You betcha!

    The scandalous details are revealed in the highly-anticipated tell-all “The Rogue: Searching for The Real Sarah Palin,” written by best-selling author Joe McGinniss.

    Palin bedded future NBA player Rice while he was playing college hoops at the University of Michigan, the National Enquirer reports about the McGinniss book.

    The sharp-shooting Rice – who spent one season with the Knicks – was playing in the annual “Great Alaska Shootout” while Palin was a sports reporter with Anchorage television station KTUU, the Enquirer said.

    Their one-night stand over Thanksgiving weekend 1987 reportedly occurred in the dorm room of Palin’s kid sister at the University of Alaska Anchorage.

    Palin was described by a friend as the aggressor, with the pal reporting “she hauled his ass down,” the Enquirer said.

    Less than a year later, Palin was pregnant by husband Todd and the couple eloped.

    The book also repeated allegations – denied in the past by Palin – that she had a six-month affair with her husband’s business partner in the mid-’90s.

    The dalliance put a chill on the Palin marriage, with Todd complaining to friends about the loss of intimacy in their relationship, the Enquirer reported.

    McGinniss, the author of “Fatal Vision” and “The Selling of the President,” rented the house next door to the Palins in Wasilla while researching the bombshell book.

    His agent, David Larabell, declined to comment on the Enquirer excerpts.

    “As this is an embargoed book I can’t comment on the specificity of its contents,” Larabell wrote in an e-mail.

    “Also, I haven’t seen the National Enquirer article. I don’t know about this instance, but they often get these reports right.”

    The book also reports that Palin was once seen snorting cocaine off the top of a 55-gallon drum while snowmobiling with friends. She also smoked pot with a professor while at Mat-Su College, the book says.

    And it quotes a Palin family friend as saying that husband Todd Palin also snorted coke, describing him as “on the end of the straw plenty.”

    The Enquirer quoted a publishing source about the explosive stories contained in the 320-page book, due in stores next week.

    There was no immediate response from the Palin camp.


    Liberal media and gotcha media has struck again 😯

    • 12 theo67
      September 14, 2011 at 3:59 pm

      To be honest, I can’t really get excited about something that happened back in 1987, and secondly, she’s a nobody. This just gives palin one more opportunity to play the victim, and get more spotlight to spout her nonsense. Her fans will come out in droves to support her.

      • 13 tally
        September 14, 2011 at 4:57 pm

        I can.

        These people demand purity on our side go back prior to conception.

        I can enjoy some dirt on Sarah, even though, as you say, hypocrisy is what’s for dinner for the baggers.

  8. September 14, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Was that really Halperin getting an autograph from Romney or a doppelganger?

  9. 15 Linda
    September 14, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    All I have to say about this tool is ..

    I laugh my arse off because his father works for George Soros….

    Maybe that is why he is so bitter…?

  10. 16 ChristiMtl
    September 14, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    Well it’s the same reason why they have Buchanan on the payroll, Mike Barnicle…or any of these RW fools.

    So it’s 3 hours of President bashing in the morning on Morning Joe.
    Idiot RW hack Chuck Todd after, another hour of bashing, lies and distortions.
    Andrea Mitchell, Ratigan and so on.

    Beside Rev. Al, there’s no supporter of the President on the air.

    It’s not because you go after the GOP like Maddow and Shultz can do that you are a supporter, they bash the President as often as the rest.

    He caves, he’s weak, he’s not a leader………whatever.

    The regular analysts are all emoprogs who would gladly vote for anyone who would primary the President and the regular guests are Repugs. or Libetarians pretending to be progressives, like Huffington, Green, Maher.

    It’s a RW network, it’s Comcast a huge corporation.

    As long as we continue to believe that’s it’s left leaning, we’ll be disappointed. It’s like watching Fox and be disappointed, we know what to expect, we don’t pay attention to their craziness, it should be the same for MSNBC.

    MSNBC is the biggest scam.

    We have no voice in the RW media,.

    • 17 tally
      September 14, 2011 at 5:01 pm

      In this vein, my “friend” who has a left blog, who I used to write for, who was a Hillary supporter, and will never get over she lost the Obama…. and is now a professional Obama basher…. hoping that she will primary him….

      I sent him this yesterday – of course, he’ll never post it:



      Why do you think Obama doesn’t “come to work” and tell me in detail what he should do to prove to you he does? And before you whine about him stopping the “bipartisan bullshit of reaching across the aisle”, that is what The President Of The United State of America is SUPPOSED TO DO, because he is EVERYONE’S PRESIDENT. Not just the Dems, or the Blacks, but EVERY AMERICAN. If he came out and screamed at the Bagges, and demeaned them, not only would the GOP go on every channel and hysterically shout ZOMG OBAMA IS AN UNSTABLE BLACK MAN THUG WHO IS GOING TO RAPE YOUR DAUGHTERS, STEAL YOUR GUNS, SHOOT YOU WITH THEM, THEN THROW YOUR DEAD ASS INTO A LIBERAL BRAINWASHING CAMP, 24/7, but would also whip up the violent rhetoric because the baggers want another civil fucking war so bad they can taste it.

      And no, “Fight more/harder” isn’t an answer. Be specific. He should DO/SAY what, to whom, and from where? He could be screaming from the White House steps, and if the GOPMEDIA chooses not to cover it, would you even know? Oh, but they definitely show him golfing, (far less than Bush), and going on vacation (far less than Bush), yet fail to report him cutting short that vacation to come back and prep the East Coast for hurricane Irene, which resulted in billions of dollars in damage, but thankfully very few fatalities, when there could have been MANY.

      Where is the GOPMEDIA’s outrage about Cantor holding FEMA funds hostage for more spending cuts? Why don’t they ask him to start with his own lifetime salary and benefits?

      Facts we know:

      – The GOP are batshit crazy.
      – The GOP have been systematically transferring wealth by deregulation, tax cuts & loopholes for the überwealthy, and dismantling the middle class for almost 40 years.
      – The GOP have taken over the SCOTUS and now Corporations are people.
      – The GOP have successfully killed the Fairness Doctrine, and now own ALL OF THE MEDIA.

      With that knowledge, why on Earth would you still believe ANYTHING that the GOPMEDIA tells (or fails to tell) you?? Why would you believe that President Obama had “scrapped” any EPA air standards? Because the MEDIA SAID SO? Well, stupid YOU. Guess what? THEY LIED. He isn’t scrapping anything. He is postponing the new compliance date by 16 months, because there is a study, began in 2008, that is concluding now, and will have stricter standards in 2013. So, there’s no point in refitting now when you’ll have to REFIT AGAIN before your current refit is finished. OF COURSE THE MEDIA LIED, and most people were too lazy to go read the very short statement of the POTUS to get the REAL STORY.http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/02/statement-president-ozone-national-ambient-air-quality-standards

      Almost every single day, the POTUS goes somewhere, and speaks to people, ON CAMERA. Sometimes a news channel or two will carry it. Sometimes only C-SPAN will. Sometimes, it’s ONLY AT whitehouse.gov/live And every single statement, and press release is all archived at the Whitehouse website.

      How fucked up is it that a POTUS has to call a JOINT SESSION to beg Congress to pass a JOBS BILL, just so he can get on national TV on every station? They should be doing that shit in their sleep, then he wouldn’t have to, and could get other shit done. But the American people have allowed the selfish behavior of the GOP, putting their defeat of Obama above the welfare of the Citizens of this country, to become somehow acceptable and normal behavior.

      Do you really believe the Kochs & Murdoch have ONLY been investing in propaganda targeted to the Right/conservatives in this country??? Why would they do that, when there are fewer of them?? Why wouldn’t they also try to continually demean and disillusion the Left and convince them to stay home? NO REASON AT ALL. THEY HAVE BEEN, and continue to, because IT WORKED PERFECTLY IN 2010.

      Do yourself a favor. Go here, and read ALL OF IT http://obamaachievements.org/list Yes, it’s LONG. The President has been BUSY. Too busy to call you personally and give you hourly reports on his progress. And NO, the GOPMEDIA isn’t going to tell you. Why should they? That would mean a WIN FOR OBAMA, and they cannot have that.

      And if Obama is such a Republican, then why are all the GOP crazies who are running for president, promising to repeal every last thing on that list?

      President Obama has done some awesome things that are WONDERFUL for average Americans, but have put MAJOR restraints on The Corporate Thieves and THEY’RE PISSED OFF. Go see for yourself. Or even just the Banking and Financial Reform link (thanks for posting that Bart) – Hopefully everyone will realize what the bigger picture is here. To get back to stealing money, they desperately need to get Obama out of office.

      I’m never going to have the Perfect POTUS, no one is. But President Obama is the most Progressive President IN MY LIFETIME. And every single GOP candidate who is running in 2012, will instantly REPEAL EVERY SINGLE THING OBAMA HAS ACCOMPLISHED since he took office, and that list is LONG.

      FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THE GODS EVERYWHERE, AND EVERYONE ON THE PLANET, STOP BLAMING OBAMA, AND STOP CALLING FOR SOMEONE TO PRIMARY HIM. The Kochs would back that person in a heartbeat, because THEY KNOW that would permanently bury the Progressive movement FOR FUCKING EVER.

      This mess is OUR FAULT, for allowing this mess to get this fucked up, for the RIGHT WING INSANITY TO BECOME ACCEPTABLE AS NORMAL BEHAVIOR, and for NOT SENDING A PROGRESSIVE ARMY TO HAVE THIS POTUS’ BACK. That’s like blaming the fired-by-Perry firefighters in Texas for the out of control fires. If a person doesn’t have the tools to get a job done, you can’t blame them for trying to MacGyver it anyway. If President Obama would have made the Public Option his line in the sand, we’d still have nothing. Instead we have something that will eventually create Single Payer when the non-profits come on line in 2014, which will be allowed to merge across state lines, offering larger risk pools, eventually merging nationwide, and VOILÁ! Single Payer. That WILL HAPPEN, if we don’t fuck it up and stay home.

      Every time you whine about whatever it is you’re not happy about something Obama did or didn’t do, you encourage another voter on OUR SIDE to stay home. STOP IT.

      Oh, and if you’re going to give Hillary credit for Libya, you also have to give her credit for Keystone XL (the tar sands Albert – Texas oil pipeline), that is hers and her Dept Of State’s baby completely. Because it’s MORE SECURE FOR THE US to get our oil from Canada (who actually like us) than the Saudis. It’s also far easier to clean a land spill than one in the ocean. And it’s safer to transport it by pipeline than it is by truck or train. We already have over 125,000 miles of oil pipelines in the US. http://www.pipeline101.com/Overview/crude-pl.html Why aren’t the people who are screaming about this pipeline, screaming about getting rid of the existing ones? That oil will go somewhere. If not to us, most likely to China, who will then sell it to us for more, and we’ll still transport it in somehow. I’d rather get it in through an over-ground pipeline than have anything spill in the oceans. Hillary has this one right. And she was right to give the okay. But it’s far better for the Kochs to beat Obama over this, and get more DEMS TO NOT VOTE. The reason HIllary isn’t the target on this, is because SHE ISN’T RUNNING FOR POTUS.

      Of course, we should get rid of all petroleum consumption, or at least restrict it to air travel for now, and go completely green/renewable (HEMP), but getting any GOP POTUS will kill that (and the planet) for fucking EVER.

  11. 22 HZ
    September 14, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Tally, thank you very much. You piece is medicine to my pain. I appreciate your comments that moves the mind to think. Thanks Babe. You are one of the best.HZ

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