ponzi perry….

Greg Sargent: CNN released a poll this morning finding – as have other polls – that Rick Perry has surged past Mitt Romney…. But this finding really does seem significant:

Which Republican candidate do you think has the best chance of beating Barack Obama in the general election next November? Perry 42% Romney 26%….

Really? Nearly half of Republicans think Perry has the best chance of beating Obama?

….. This underscores a gap between the GOP establishment and the Republican rank and file when it comes to assessing Perry’s chances in a general election …. Perry’s “Ponzi scheme” crack, his book’s claim that Social Security may be unconstitutional, its support for repeal of the 16th Amendment, and his implied threat of violence towards Fed chairman Ben Bernanke (which he hasn’t repudiated) have all left GOP establishment figures openly asking whether Perry’s views and personal style will be far too toxic to the mainstream for him to get elected president

….. If those things weren’t enough to persuade Republicans that Perry is less electable than Romney in a general election, it’s hard to imagine what will.

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19 Responses to “ponzi perry….”

  1. 1 Sue in Minnesota
    September 12, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Sorry….we have some dumb ass people in America….too damn many!

    • 2 jacquelineoboomer
      September 12, 2011 at 12:53 pm

      It’s embarrassing!

    • September 12, 2011 at 12:57 pm

      Good morning Sue and all you in TOD land. i may have posted this before but i think it’s appropriate to do so again.
      “Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance. A mass movement offers them unlimited opportunities for both.”
      Eric Hoffer (1902 – 1983)

      • 5 PoliticalJunkessa
        September 12, 2011 at 1:10 pm

        Nothing but the truth in that quote.

      • 6 Sue in Minnesota
        September 12, 2011 at 1:17 pm

        Yardarm756…good day back to ya. I am going to file this quote….this articulates perfectly what I have come to the conclusion of as well.
        It particularily saddens me they that they debase Christianity and true Christians ( actually any loving being regardless of faith) everywhere, and use their ‘religion’ as some twisted excuse for their empty lives. Their lack of direct and personal responsibility for the lives they themselves have always had the choice to create.

        • September 12, 2011 at 1:28 pm

          “To know a person’s religion we need not listen to his profession of faith but must find his brand of intolerance.”- Eric Hoffer (1902 – 1983)
          As you can tell, i have a thing for Eric Hoffer. 😉

          • 8 nathkatun7
            September 13, 2011 at 12:20 am

            Yardarm756, thanks for sharing these quotes from Eric Hoffer. I also like Eric Hoffer and I think his book, “The True Believer” should be re-printed because it’s so relevant to the times we are living in. Every time I meet people who are so dogmatic about their being the only ones who know the truth, I am reminded of another of Eric Hoffer observations: ” We can be absolutely certain about things we do not know.”

  2. 9 Me4obama
    September 12, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    This is very good news for PBO. As Mark Halperin would say it’s good news for John Mccain.

  3. 11 PoliticalJunkessa
    September 12, 2011 at 12:47 pm


  4. September 12, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    Republicans like a bully. They want somebody who will say the things they think to President Obama. It’s why Trump was so popular with the teabagger set – I mean he had zero in common with them, but he pushed the birther issue and that was enough to rocket up the polls. If Perry can hold his polling for another month, I think it’s basically decided that he’ll be the GOP nominee. It’s not a matter if Romney beating him, but rather if Perry self-destructs. The GOP base doesn’t trust Romney, he a liberal Republican from Massachusetts who will say anything to get elected. Romney’s only claim to the nomination was that he was the only Republican that could beat President Obama, but Perry is polling strong – taking away that argument. Mitt needs to take the gloves off with Perry and soon or he’s going to become irrelevant. It will be interesting to see if Romney holds his fire hoping for the VP spot or if he fights Perry tooth and nail. We need an all out brawl between the two – we need Romney to paint Perry as anti-social security and pro-illegal immigrant so he pushes back hard against the latter which will hurt him in the general. We need Perry to hit Romney for Romneycare and how it covered abortions with a co-pay and how Romney is phony as hell.

    • 13 theo67
      September 12, 2011 at 1:42 pm

      Good analysis – I agree that the GOP constituents have blinded themselves with their hatred – they have no idea what they’re doing anymore, as long as it defeats President Obama. America is in serious trouble if these people end up being the only ones with enough passion to come out and vote, because they’re all a bunch of racist idiots. There’s nothing good about the tea party Republicans.

    • September 12, 2011 at 5:24 pm

      I see the need for what you describe to happen, StR, but it seems unlikely that it will. All of the GOP candidates have one thing they all agree on: the need to attack, not each other, but PBO. They’ve had several debates so far, and not one of them has had the courage to differentiate him/herself from the other candidates in a significant way except Huntsman, and that was a very weak effort on his part. I also recall Gingrich’s comment at one debate about the dems wanting the republican candidates to “fight” each other and warning them not to give in to it. The debates have been lackluster so far. It’s as if none of the contenders really want the nomination. A few of them have launched on line ads against some of the others but imo, I’ve seen no real fireworks of any sort. I guess this is the kind of campaigning you can expect from cookie cutter, ideologically driven GOP candidates.

  5. 15 Ladyhawke
    September 12, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    How Stupid is Too Stupid to Get Elected?


    Is conventional wisdom getting ahead of itself? Is there such a thing as being too stupid to get elected in Republican politics, or for that matter, national politics? Before I answer that question, let’s play a little game. Let’s see if you can identify these quotes. The answers are at the end.
    Why does the Republican establishment support stupid candidates? Very few people can say for sure, but many believe that post-Nixon Republican Presidents are figureheads. For each of them, the behind the scenes people have been calling the shots, leaving the President in the position of plausible deniability. In other words, A President Palin would have a Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld making the decisions, while she distracts the country with word salad feasts.



    • 16 dotster
      September 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm

      Yes—–Their candidates’ intelligence, or lack thereof, seems to have no bearing on their choice of candidate. Because, as you stated, their candidates are just puppets. Does anyone believe that W was really the decider? It was always Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld & Co. pulling the strings. Rove spotted him early on in his fake cowboy outfit with the big belt buckle and said, “There’s our candidate!”

  6. 17 JoJothecat
    September 12, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    That is just too frightening to fathom that the Republican party and the rich would put another cowboy into office. He is so dumb who would he select as his VP to run the presidency? My guess would be Newt Gingrich. Newt would never become president on his own but as VP Perry would do everything Newt wanted. My guess is if Perry had Newt on the ticket, they would lose because most Republicans hate Newt.

  7. 18 busbus
    September 12, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    It doesn’t matter who wins the Republican/Tea Party nomination! The question will be who will be on the ticket with that nominee. This entire scenario has been scripted by and for the benefit of their corporate beneficiaries…the Koch brothers, their supporters and the U. S. Chamber of Commerce and the backing of the U. S. Supreme Court.

    I do believe that, in the final analysis, Romney will win the nomination. He has proven himself to be ready to be the “front” for the group headed by the Koch brothers. The title and the prestige of being viewed as the leader of the free world is all that Romney wants. He has been measuring the drapes since day-one of his race for the Republican/Tea Party nomination. He has already told a particular group, wherever he was in New England, that the next time that he visits, he would be surrounded by his Secret Service team. Romney only wants the pomp and circumstances of serving as President of the United States. Governing? Forget that! “Just tell me what you want me to say and do! I’m willing to serve as your puppet.”

    Why is Perry in the race? Again, in my opinion, he is being used to provide legitimacy to the extremist ideology which Bachmann, seen as a joke, was unable to do. She carried the banner until the Koch brothers convinced Perry to throw his hat into the ring knowing that his extremism will be too much to win in the general election. Romney will be seen as the more acceptable and rational candidate to go up against President Obama. Notice, it wasn’t until after Perry’s attendance at the Koch brothers’ secret seminar in June that leaks started about his potential candidacy. I feel that he is serving as some kind of “strawman.” This may not be the correct term; but, there is something amiss about the relationship between these front-runners. I think that Rove has his hands in this, as well. The “rift” between him and Romney, I think, is contrived!

    Let us not discount Chris Christie. Put him on the ticket with Romney and the Republican/Tea Party will have a formidable ticket! A two-hour secret meeting between Charles Koch and Christie! After this “one” meeting, “This is my kinda guy!” And, so impressed, an invitation to be the keynote speaker at the secret seminar in Colorado? Has anyone noticed the “change” Christie has been emitting for us to view and hear?

    I’ve been questioning Romney’s relationship with the Koch brothers. If Christie was able to have a two-hour secret meeting with Charles Koch, who is to say that a secret meeting has not been held with Romney. I doubt if he attended the secret seminar in June; but, who knows? A surrogate? Very possible. Pink-static used to avoid the seminar being taped by outsiders? Well, secure-technology can be used for communication with Romney!

    As being constantly mentioned on this site…We gotta fight and get out the vote for the re-election of our team…Obama/Biden 2012. Anyone who doesn’t realize that we are at war to save our Republic and our democratic way of life is ignoring the handwriting on the wall. What’s happening at the state level…Wisconsin, Michigan, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maine, etc. tells us a whole lot and it ain’t pretty!

  8. 19 utaustinliberal
    September 12, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    I really hope Perry keeps polling well and wins the nomination. Good news for the democrats.

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