Morning everyone.

I didn’t get the chance yesterday to have a word about things getting a little, eh, heated here on Friday, but I will do later today. It’s no biggie, I’m not going to be putting anyone in solitary confinement, but we just need to clarify a few, well, rules of engagement.

Catch you all later, have a perfect day 😉

126 Responses to “sunday”

  1. 1 Ladyhawke
    September 4, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Twitter Brigade Alert – Spread The Word.

    Steve Benen of Washington Monthly had a very insightful post yesterday entitled “THE RIGHT AND WRONG SIDE OF CONSENSUS” that I hope will get some well deserved attention. It documents how the mainstream establishment media is trying to set the narrative for President Obama’s speech before the speech is given. As usual, they are trying to create a negative narrative where one does not exist. On top of that, they are just flat out wrong. This needs to be nipped in the bud.


    If you listen to the establishment press the president’s speech will determine whether the president listens to “liberals” and ditches the move toward economic austerity or “moderates” and Republicans and sticks to budget cutting.


    We’re approaching an economic consensus among those who know what they’re talking about. If President Obama pushes an ambitious jobs agenda, he’ll be siding with economists, the financial industry, business leaders, and even the Fed, not just those rascally “liberals.” Republicans won’t like it, and apparently the establishment media won’t either, but that’s the reality of the situation.


    • 2 Ladyhawke
      September 4, 2011 at 7:17 am

      Here’s more in the same vane…….

      Contrary To GOP Claims, Small Businesses Say Taxes And Regulation Aren’t Holding Back Hiring


      Predictably, Republicans reacted to today’s dismal jobs number — which showed that zero net jobs were created in August — by blaming the supposed avalanche of taxes and regulations put in place by the Obama administration. “Private-sector job growth continues to be undermined by the triple threat of higher taxes, more failed ‘stimulus’ spending, and excessive federal regulations. Together, these Washington policies have created a fog of uncertainty that’s left small businesses unable to hire and American families worried about the future,” said House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) in a statement today.


      Politicians and business groups often blame excessive regulation and fear of higher taxes for tepid hiring in the economy. However, little evidence of that emerged when McClatchy canvassed a random sample of small business owners across the nation. […]

      McClatchy reached out to owners of small businesses, many of them mom-and-pop operations, to find out whether they indeed were being choked by regulation, whether uncertainty over taxes affected their hiring plans and whether the health care overhaul was helping or hurting their business.

      Their response was surprising.

      None of the business owners complained about regulation in their particular industries, and most seemed to welcome it. Some pointed to the lack of regulation in mortgage lending as a principal cause of the financial crisis that brought about the Great Recession of 2007-09 and its grim aftermath.



      If anyone is aware of any mainstream media outlet that has debunked the nonsense coming from Speaker Boehner and the Republicans about job creation and lack of demand, I would love to hear from you. What infuriates me the most, is that Speaker Boehner can spout this crap and lie with ease and the media never calls him out or corrects the record.

      • September 4, 2011 at 10:23 am

        LadyHawke – thanks so much for the link. That simple phrase “Business says Regulations and Taxes aren’t holding back hiring” That is a talking point we need to tweet, talk to our neighbors about and put on Facebook. As I read the article I was also struck by this quote.

        “Several respondents actually pointed to the 2009 Recovery Act (i.e. the stimulus), which was almost unanimously opposed by Republicans, as helping to boost their businesses. “It allowed those folks to spend and have money and pay for the essentials,” said Rip Daniels, who owns four businesses.” We can translate that into another taiking point.

        “The Stimulus gave folks $$ they could spend and businesses hire when they have customers”

      • 4 Obama Grandmama
        September 4, 2011 at 10:14 pm

        Since the GOP have been so unified in their blockage of everything how can they say Obama’s regulations and higher taxes are the cause of no hiring? The taxes are the lowest ever since I don’t seem to remember which President but in the recent history and the GOP has blocked all regulation revamps. Plus the low taxes have been in place for over ten years for the so called job creating rich and all they have done is take their jobs to other countries where the labor is cheaper so they can make more profit.

    • September 4, 2011 at 7:45 am

      Sounds like either way, no matter what, it’s bad for Obama. Isn’t that the media campaign theme?

    • September 4, 2011 at 11:20 am

      They always do this before any of Obama’s speeches. The left, right, the MSM, they all set the bar or establish the rules that will be used to judge Obama’s speech.

  2. 9 Bill
    September 4, 2011 at 7:10 am

    The half term governor gave a policy speech in Iowa to a tea party rally yesterday. She was as vile as ever. She said she would eliminate all corporate taxes and pay for them by eliminating loopholes. She is so stupid she does not realize that by eliminating corporate taxes there would be no tax loopholes to close. No one in our ever diligent MSM has picked up this point on her tax policy.

    • September 4, 2011 at 7:26 am

      I don’t think she ran that idea through with Treasury Secretary Grover norquist..

    • 11 Sue in Minnesota
      September 4, 2011 at 10:10 am

      Bill, Stupid is really too generous a description…..hateful, drug addled waste of human potential. She should go hawk inflatable bras on the home shopping network, and get out of our faces, and most importantly the President’s.

    • 15 Brookwater
      September 4, 2011 at 6:29 pm

      I read diligently but rarely post but I had to respond on this one. I said the same thing when I heard her speaking. I thought “wait a minute, what loopholes? If there are no taxes there will be no loopholes!” LOL The problem with our little Sarah is that she just strings things together that sounds good. Reminds me of an ex of a friend of mine. He would impress her with his ‘fluent French’. She thought it was sooooo romantic. That is, until another friend who could actually speak French tried to have a conversation with him and realized he was just stringing together random French words. LOL

      • 16 Sue in Minnesota
        September 4, 2011 at 9:41 pm

        Her speech patterns are often referred to as ‘world salad.’ You know as well as I, that nothing she says makes any sense. Oh, and she has a prolific habit of lying. She is an expert at it.

  3. 17 Fred
    September 4, 2011 at 7:21 am

    Happy Sunday TOD family

    U.S. Teen Pregnancy Rates Down, Texas Rates Up

    Phillip Anschutz: The Most Powerful Billionaire You Have Never Heard Of

    Obama’s attempts to strike a new tone in relations with Latin America face new obstacles from Republicans in Congress

  4. 25 Ladyhawke
    September 4, 2011 at 7:49 am

    WHY POLITICAL COVERAGE IS BROKEN – By Jay Rosen (Professor of Journalism at New York University)

    Since “broken political coverage” will be on full display today on the Sunday Shows, I am re-posting a brilliant lecture by Jay Rosen which breaks down the problems with political reporting and provides valuable insight into the way news is presented. The lecture is about 30 minutes long, but it is well worth your time. Below is a little tease from the lecture:

    Verification in reverse.

    I have to read to you this famous passage from American journalist Ron Suskind’s account of the Bush White House in 2004. It was called “Beyond a Doubt” and it told of a retreat from empiricism in the Bush government. You’ll probably recognize parts of it. Here’s Suskind, who had a lot of sources within the Bush government.

    In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn’t like about Bush’s former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House’s displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn’t fully comprehend — but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

    The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

    I had a chance to meet Suskind once, to look into his eyes and judge for myself whether this chilling story was something that actually happened, or just a good yarn. I think it actually happened. And we can see the evidence in our politics.

    The leading contender for the Republican nomination for president, Rick Perry, is emerging as a climate change denialist. We might call this “verification in reverse.” Verification, which is crucial to journalism, means nailing down assertions with verifiable facts. Verification in reverse is taking established facts and manufacturing doubt about them, which creates political friction, and the friction then becomes an energy source you can tap for campaigning. It’s a political technique.

    (Scroll down until you get to the youtube video of the lecture)


    • September 4, 2011 at 4:46 pm

      I’m gonna watch this tonight. I didn’t forget.

    • 27 Zekke Lydonna
      September 4, 2011 at 5:49 pm

      —–Part of the conversation on CNN Reliable Sources regarding aftermath of 911:

      Kelli ARENA: . . . don’t pitch a story unless there’s something exploding. Terrorism and intelligence is more of an art than it is a science. And some of those stories are very nuanced. And in the world of cable television, everything needs to be black and white. . . 

      KURTZ: So was that frustrating for you, that if there was no arrest, if there was no capture of explosives, that it was harder to get on stories that were important, but not visual or dramatic?

      This is a perfect illustration of how the media works. The KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid). I say ‘Simple and Stupid’.

      Since this is how they admit to operating, how can we ever expect reliable coverage of a nuanced President?

  5. September 4, 2011 at 7:58 am

    It gets really hard to not believe in a coordinated media effort against Obama. Just look at the names on the shows today. I mean, they’re not even trying to look semi-objective any more. Does anyone think Maxine Waters would ever be invited on if she had been out praising Obama? Any Dem who has criticized Obama has an open door, and if you’re AA, well that’s double bonus points. I have never seen anything like this —–ever!
    And there is some pointless story in the Chgo Trib today, not worth a link, where an LA Times reporter AGAIN goes to Kenya to try to get in to see Obama’s STEP grandmother etc., explaining there’s curiosity about the president’s family there and about how the people there are disappointed that their financial situation hasn’t improved since Obama became president. I remember President Obama trying to tamp down expectations there, that he wouldn’t be flying over dropping dollars out of a plane, that he is president of the United States. But the whole point was to stir up the Kenyan thing again and to cast more negative light on the president. There was absolutely no point to the story. I can’t believe the LA Times paid for that trip. I am just sick of all of them and all their negative, manipulative and partisan reporting.

    • September 4, 2011 at 8:27 am

      Seriously?! These people are such vile critters. He doesn’t give them any drama or scandal so they fricking have to travel to another continent in order to find it where there is none. So what? Just because he’s president he has to feed and clothe and take care of everyone? Are the rules somehow supposed to be different for him? Do those ‘journalists’ take care of their distant relatives that live on a different continent, never mind, that even live on this continent or even in this country? They are so sick! Everyday you see the low levels to which this once—-long, long ago——proud profession, has sunk. What’s worse is that this isn’t even the lowest they can go. I’m waiting to see doctored photos of PBO and some “unnamed woman” and how Miche is ‘furious’ and how it’s possible “there will be a presidential divorce for the first time in history” and how this will “plummet his already low approval ratings”—— these people are so sick. Their supposed news shows run more like E! News than real, hard ‘ facts, only the facts ma’am that we were taught to appreciate. Bastards 😡
      Ps- Good morrow all! Hope you’ve been having a great labor day weekend so far! 🙂

      • 30 hopefruit2
        September 4, 2011 at 10:12 am

        Has any reporter asked Chuck Todd why his 84-year old Grandmother is still taking the bus to work at McDonalds? Or are we going to hear anything on the GOP Sunday gossip shows about Hayley Barbour’s “disadvantaged” relative who scammed FEMA after Hurricane Contract for ~ $100 million in illegal billing contracts? Or Marco Rubio’s siblings who are connected to drug trafficking?

        Trust me, at some point, these reporters are going to regret that they ever decided to touch the “relatives” because compared to the Republican side, Obama’s relatives come off like choirboys/girls.

        • 31 Sue in Minnesota
          September 4, 2011 at 10:41 am

          They can start with Palin……their political pin-up girl, whose closets are full of dark secrets, abusive conduct and corruption.

          Chuck Todd’s grandmother is not our business, although he seems to be either neglectful or completely disconnected from her if what has been told here is true. Where there is corruption and illegal activity…that is quite another story, the lights need to be turned up on those stories.

      • 32 Obama Grandmama
        September 4, 2011 at 10:30 pm

        You are so right but shouldn’t give them ideas lol! Actually I saw the Globe next to the checkout stand a couple of times lately that had similar stories. One was how Michelle Obama couldn’t stand the life in the WH anymore. The other was how Obama had to go on vacation to do rehab from too much drinking.
        I thought to myself after seeing all the clips on this site showing all his speeches and meetings and briefings during his so called vacation Yah! How could he have had anytime to dry out on that vacation.

    • 33 Desraye
      September 4, 2011 at 10:13 am

      What do they mean that Kenya is still in Financial ruins? Do it suppose to be Obama’ fault? I mean Kenya has been through a civil war and a drought, which probably effect their financial situation.The was a dumb move by the LA times.

    • September 4, 2011 at 10:29 am

      There is a media effort against Obama. So what can we do about it?
      We can write letters to the editor at our local papers, we can tweet, call and email our local media, (which is watched much more than national media) we can continue our attack on national media.

      If anyone has written a letter to the editor, please post it here, I am archiving them at my blog. We could use your letters as models for our letters. don’t be embarrassed that your letter isn’t good enough, it is.

      Each of you needs to find your local paper or TV station online and find their twitter account, their facebook page, the email addresses of the reporters. We have much more leverage locally than nationally.

      • 35 Blue
        September 4, 2011 at 10:57 am

        A national black out of the media, will do the trick! All President Obama supporters should stop watching the news media. When their ratings are down, then things will change.

        • 36 Sue in Minnesota
          September 4, 2011 at 11:08 am

          I agree. Our efforts need to be proactive as well as reactive. Maybe we could as individuals accept responsibility to be one or the other.
          Perhaps we need to have a outlined approach for the day, at the beginning. And and a report bback or review at the end of the day. We could be more tightly organized in our efforts.

          • 37 a4alice
            September 4, 2011 at 12:00 pm

            I remember that you have mentioned this before Sue in MN. I think that this is a good idea. I remember over at BWD’s site there was a guy named Peter who was trying to get a sub group together to reproach MSM’s directly when they were not saying the truth in a more organized manner. Even though maybe a group is harder to do I certainly can be more organized. Like when I send a letter to the editor (as suggested by WIW) I’ll write it here so that WIW can do something with it. I know BobFr usually posts his letters and they are very helpful as an educational tool about what and how to say things. I retweet when I can about stuff I am more informed about and the Chipster has a “Contact the Media” list as well. It’s time I made much better use of them. In a PROACTIVE way. That’s a good point. Get on the other side instead of on the reactive side. thanks

            • 38 Sue in Minnesota
              September 4, 2011 at 12:51 pm

              Thanks a4alice (my Minnesota neighbor, I think)…I am anal and am probably projecting a bit here, as my own life is not completely organized as much as that would benefit me. I think we have a lot of positive energy and very bright minds in our community here…just think we have to become our own media outlet of sorts, and would benefit from concentrating our efforts.

              I opened a twitter account, but now have to close and reopen a new one as someone hijacked my e-mail address. I hate to RAH-RAH
              actions that I do not take myself, but am glad we the Twitter Brigade on top of daily issues. Today, what I can do is write my e-mails and letters to Congress. Personally, my writing campaign has become part of my daily routine, like doing the dishes. But that was by design, about a month ago. I have to say it gives me a sense of accompolishment and helps me not to become totally defeated by the enormity and complexity of our political situation. Managing my emotional frustration is for me one the hardest parts of being politically engaged, hopefully I am getting tougher.

              I think taking measure of our actions has great benefit, and one of those benefits, probably not the most important but a benefit none the less, is feedback fuels initiative, and helps to keep our spirits positive. What we focus on expands, and if we keep looking only at our obstacles, they will begin to overwhelm us. We have to accept them and then figure out how to deal with them constructively.

              I am the blah blah girl at TOD, never seem to be able to come to a concise point…sorry for my lengthy style of writing.

              • 39 a4alice
                September 4, 2011 at 1:22 pm

                Ha! No you’re fine I know what you mean there is a lot of stuff to do and it can get kind of overwhelming at the enormity of all the choices we have I like WIW idea of collecting examples of letters to the editor, what are you saying to who, etc. But I know what you mean about organization.

                And yes. I am from Minnesota! w00t! Go Gophers! (really? a rodent with buck teeth as our mascot….hmmmm.)

                I am in the twitterverse my handle is @a4alice. It’s listed in Chips twitter brigade.

                I know what you mean about managing emotional frustration. I find myself more and more relying on lists of PBO’s accomplishments and hopefully at some point I’ll be able to spout them off the top of my head but for now I tweet or retweet the fine people her at TOD or others who have a handle on PBO’s accomplishments.

                I write amyk and bettymc. tweet al.

                anyways. thanks

      • 40 a4alice
        September 4, 2011 at 11:21 am

        Gah! There you go again WIW having a great idea. My husband was just pointing out a local sunday editorial that I can’t seem to link to (OMG if I can’t get to it online what’s the point?!? ;-)) but I think that is a good starting place for me at least. Thanks for being so proactive. I will definately check it out.

        • 41 Sue in Minnesota
          September 4, 2011 at 12:57 pm

          Is the opinion about the emotional immaturity of our national discourse? Intersting and very true. The dysfunction of Americans as individuals is amplified in our collective functions and actions. Interesting article pointed out to me in the StarTribune about the impacts of our broken families, and how that reflects on our nation as a whole.

          • 42 a4alice
            September 4, 2011 at 1:24 pm

            He said it was something about that the strib was defending PBO. But of course I can’t find it so I’ll have to have him show it to me when he gets home from work.

      • September 4, 2011 at 12:10 pm

        What is Working; we should all do a all out attack on the MSM at every point even with a twitter hash tag of #MEDIATOTALFAILURE each time they don’t cover news with the truth.

    • 44 Mel
      September 4, 2011 at 11:18 am

      Yes Maxine waters and De Mint turn off your TV’s Sunday’s talk Shows are full of garbage thanks dotster3.

    • September 4, 2011 at 12:05 pm

      The Chicago Tribune has always been a far right rag since before the days of Harold Washington. Very few AA read that rag. The paper of choice is the Sun-Times and that is starting to be suspect.

  6. 46 Fred
    September 4, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Ammanpour has Jim “waterloo” Demint on her show.She was a real journalist when on CNN but now she’s a Republican/Corporate hack and I refuse to watch her

  7. 47 Fred
    September 4, 2011 at 8:52 am

    June: Food Stamp Use Declines For First Time During Obama Administration
    $6,039,935,392 federal expenditure for June…

  8. 48 donna dem 4 obama
    September 4, 2011 at 9:02 am

    I want to clarify something. I read comments on the previous thread about all the Repubs that get air time on Sunday’s and the suggestion that its being done because the media “hates the President”. I’m not sure that’s a true statement IMO. They actually like this President from a financial standpoint. He is their meal ticket. They understand how popular this President is. They will never have another President that is as visible as this one. How many townhalls to do think GWB gave during his Presidency outside of his re-election campaign? A big fat zero. How many summits with Congress did GWB give? A big fat zero. President Bush gave one joint session of congress (because of 9/11). He never had a “date night” with his wife in DC or did anything with his girls in DC. He closed the WH to the public after 9/11 and it didn’t get re-opened until January 2009. Their whole reason to persecute PBO in the press is to weaken him politically. That’s why they make such a big deal about everything and take a situtation and beat it to death with Republican talking points. So they can then take a poll and say “look he is weakening in this position or that position”.

    If they leave him alone and let him govern, the 2012 election with the army of volunteers we have to register voters and get people back to the polls could be a slam dunk. Our President standing on the merits without the medias negative filter is a 60% approval and 90% likeability President. They want a horse race for ratings. They need the controversy for ratings. Their corporate masters may want a Republican in the WH to keep them rich but their not stupid. They know he is a once in a lifetime charismatic leader who drives their ratings through the roof and that’s what pays the bills. The hated that the Republicans didn’t come up with their version of a charismatic leader to take on PBO next year. So they built up this clown in Texas and tried their best to make him the cool texan who will go toe to toe with the President. What they actually got was a buffoon. So now they will move back to that dumb twit (because she will be good for tv). It’s all about the Benjamin’s and as long as PBO is President they will battle him for the ratings.

    Just my 2 cents

    • September 4, 2011 at 9:25 am

      I think that’s part of it—–wanting a horse race for ratings—–but it is a full-throated, 24/7 anti-Obama message they’re sending out, a little overboard if it was only about ratings, imho. I think there are a lot of powerful, moneyed forces aligned against Obama, for obvious reasons and some not so obvious reasons, some reasons that dare not be voiced aloud.

      • 50 Sue in Minnesota
        September 4, 2011 at 10:48 am

        That is probably true, but I don’t think it’s reason to give them a pass. They are a powerful and influential force in our Democracy. And Americans seem to be too naive, too lazy, or too busy to actively and critically listen to what the MSM presents. We are enablers, whether we intend to be or not.

      • September 4, 2011 at 11:50 am

        I believe the reason is they know if Obama win 2011 they the media are over with keeping the people confuse for rating. Obama will call them out big time and they knows this. So they hook their wagon to the Republican wagon to bring Obama down. They all fear Obama don’t let them fool you.Republican fear obama will make Government work, Media fear Obama will make them tell the true and they loose rating. For both it means less money.

        • 52 Sue in Minnesota
          September 4, 2011 at 12:59 pm

          And money is the altar that these organizations worship at, for the power and the comfort is brings.

          • 53 Sue in Minnesota
            September 4, 2011 at 1:00 pm

            it..not is

            I truly have have all my fingers and thumbs, although you would not know it from my typing! 😯

    • 54 Fred
      September 4, 2011 at 9:30 am

      since you mentioned this “date night” with Michelle;I forgot to point that some conservative site called Judicial Watch is investigating and demanding answers from the State Department and Secret Service about the costs;etc about that “date night” with Michelle;Michelle’s trip to Spain with Sasha and Michelle’s trip to South Africa with the girls;Mrs Robinson and Michelle’s nephew

      • 55 JoJothecat
        September 4, 2011 at 11:13 am

        Such GOP low lifes. They are ashamed that THIS president is a much better man, husband and father than they are or any candidate that they can scrape up.

      • 56 Fred
        September 4, 2011 at 11:53 am

        yeah I read that a few days ago or was it last week on Lynn Sweet’s Chicago Sun-Times page but it is important to mention that Sweet just like Carol Marin are Pumas and they are heavy on snarkiness especially when they are on ABC7 Chicago and NBC5

    • September 4, 2011 at 10:16 am

      For everones FYI:
      The agencies under this president are very strict(especially the EPA, DOJ and DOT!
      These agencies have fined big businesses and big banks non stop for almost three years!
      Then, wall street reform triggered a land swell of opposition against this president.
      Health care reform and it’s regulations are making big businesses freakout!
      Then, the president banned earmarks and got all the house democrats mad as he’ll at him!
      So, you can see why DC is not loving the president.
      I just wish he would tell us these things he is doing, so we could help him push back a bit!


      • September 4, 2011 at 11:34 am

        yet the left comes at him and accuses him of being on the side of oligarchs and plutocrats. they have no clue as to how much money is being spent and will be spent to stop Prez. Obama.

    • 59 Debz
      September 4, 2011 at 10:34 am

      This goes way beyond a horse race, they hate him and he was not supposed to be President. The MSM does much better with a repug President. They are on a roll, using their repug talking points. The latest is the “he”s weak” meme. I just read today Kathleen, I’m just a southern belle, Parker’s pos article praising Boner for refusing to allow the POTUS to speak to Congress on the day he requested because it shows how weak PBO is. This is going to be what we are hearing for the next week. They are determined to push the one term President meme. Unfortunately for them, they may believe everyone listens to them but the truth is most voters don’t watch all of these talking head shows and don’t care what they say. They are terrified of him because they know once he starts campaigning his poll numbers go up, and he has a large group of volunteers ready to work.

      • September 4, 2011 at 11:35 am

        So Boehner jumps when Rush barks but Obama is the weak one?

        • 61 utaustinliberal
          September 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm

          Gosh the media will really pull any crap out of their asses about this speechgate nonsense. The original date had already been cleared before Master Limbaugh bitched about it and errand boy Boehner being the weak punk he is, listened to Limbaugh and decided to act “strong” before the media by refusing to accommodate President Obama.

        • 62 Zekke Lydonna
          September 4, 2011 at 5:19 pm

          My God! This is such an obvious truth.
          The Whole Republican leadership, house and senate, is weak and mean-spirited. Therefore, we must blame President Obama.

    • 63 hopefruit2
      September 4, 2011 at 11:05 am

      I think it’s more than just ratings. The media is an extended arm of the Republican party and whenever Republicans are in power, the MSM does quite well. They weren’t doing too badly at all from 2000-2008. In fact, they still pulled in their seven-figure salaries while doing absolutely no work. If PBO were simply a ratings cow then they would not black out his events. They are now pushing John 1% Huntsman who is boring as hell, and doesn’t have a convincing stand on any issue, but they would rather have him in the WH than President Obama.

  9. 67 carolyn
    September 4, 2011 at 9:10 am

    I think you’ve got it nailed….a good analysis. Without a “horse race” they have no ratings.

  10. September 4, 2011 at 9:17 am

    Good morning TODers!

    It’s a beautiful sunny morning here in Trinidad.

    Hope everyone has a great day today wherever you are.

    Looking forward to seeing President Obama today. I hope his presence there in communities in New Jersey brings some comfort to those he meets who are affected by the flooding like it did for those who were affected by the tornado in Joplin a couple of months ago.

    Talk to you guys later. 🙂

  11. September 4, 2011 at 9:17 am

    “Liberal”—-hahaha—-msnbc decided we needed to see and hear Santorum comparing Obama to a “dictator”, the “eerie” feeling he provoked as he presented himself as some sort of “demi-god”, a “messianic figure”. Then to balance that outrageous rhetoric, they then moved on to air Perry and Palin slamming Obama. It’s an all out assault.

    • September 4, 2011 at 9:28 am

      Dotser3 this just make my support for him even more solid…so in their effort to trash this president in an odd way they increases his support with the ‘TRUE” base!

    • 71 Fred
      September 4, 2011 at 9:44 am

      I have lived in a dictatorship country in Haiti under and Baby Doc Duvalier;Coup D’états since my folks worked at the French and American Embassies in Haiti and Santorum will NEVER be able to know what a dictatorship is.

      Had the likes of Perry;Santorum;Bachmann;Limbaugh;Buchannan;DeMint;Joe Wilson and Walsh lived there and were bashing Aristide;Duvalier;Henry Nemphy and Raoul Cedras on a daily basis they would have been dead by now.DEAD!

    • 72 Desraye
      September 4, 2011 at 10:18 am

      Does the Palin have a job plan? Perry? Santorum. When the MSM show these fools all they do is bash the president. Where is their job paln?

  12. September 4, 2011 at 9:34 am

    I think all of the commenters prior to me are on point. Lets show the world and each other who are the real hustlers and Pimps to progress. The President doesn’t need more haters he needs more truth tellers and bridge builders.

    I rememember all the Progress the House made when Nancy was in charge with the little gavel and no progress with boner with the big gavel… let us spend our time attacking the Republicans as FDR said “Beware of the Republicans”….

  13. September 4, 2011 at 9:37 am

    And not only that, they have big labor on to bash the president, in today’s Sunday’s shows!
    I do not have a problem with labor unions, it is the people who run them, that have fucked things up!!!

    • 75 Blue
      September 4, 2011 at 10:46 am

      Yes, you are right Jovie! For example of them spending 10 million on an election, for a person who could not win that Republican district. They were told, but they didn’t care.

  14. September 4, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Hey, Chipsters. I acknowledge your leadership in getting back to us re Friday. And I acknowledge you for not being reactive, but taking the time to find some words that create a clearing for us to continue to make our todays . . . . one after the other. How we “be” here matters, is what I say. We have the opportunity to study and practice new ways of conversing, thinking; and using trash language and being reactive and spewing off . . . that may all feel good in the moment, but it gains us nothing. I LOVE all those four-letter words; and I am learning to drop them. We don’t have time for them. It dissipates our energy. You can count on me to be a sobersides about this. ;~) And I am grateful so grateful for everybody showing up here to contribute to our world. YES>

  15. September 4, 2011 at 9:51 am

    I tweeted on twitter yesterday if ever this country was to have a revolution, the first target to be over thrown should be the corporate owned media.

    As with Lybia and Egypt their final cleansing of the old regime were taking down state ran media outlets…..I know I sound a little radical, I guess my 60s and 70s days are still with me hehehe.

    • September 4, 2011 at 9:57 am

      The media is in full swift boat mode. This happened to Kerry. He was touted as a war hero.
      So, rove got some republicans that were on the same boat as Kerry to lie about the accounts that led to him receiving a medal and being injured in battle.
      In the end, everyone believed Kerry was a coward and a traitor!
      Beware of the swift boating!

      • September 4, 2011 at 11:48 am

        MSNBC just had Amy Stoddard from The Hill on and it was worse than anything presented on FOX—–a long anti-Obama rant with preposterous claims that he’s “belittling the presidency” etc. All their choices of vids and guests etc. are all anti-Obama now.

    • 80 Marlz
      September 4, 2011 at 10:00 am

      But you are correct!

      Look at the case currently with Murdock. . . have you heard anything, but when the President was there (in England) is was a continuous loop of the error while toasting the Queen!

  16. September 4, 2011 at 10:09 am

    A couPle months ago, Jimmy Carter(a staunch Obama supporter) was on CNN and he was going on snd on about how the president should help north Korean people snd their humanitarian problems. Since mr Carter interview, this president has in fact sent over tons of food and supplies to north Korea.
    And yesterday, due to severe flooding, sent over medical supplies, food and water to north Korea via a c-130 cargo plane!
    You will not hear this from Jimmy Carter, but it is another example of non reporting.
    At least Carter should send out a statement of agreeing with this precedent!

    • September 4, 2011 at 10:27 am

      Send to Debbie wasserman Shultz congressional website!
      She will personally receive it!

      • 84 a4alice
        September 4, 2011 at 11:48 am

        Halo – just starting to read this article while I’m having the old Sunday coffee. This is educational and reminds me of something that I read last night (SOMEWHERE – ack. I gotta start taking notes!). A former Bush staff members had said that “reality was what we made it to be” and then when onto say that by the time anyone who was paying attention understood the lie – they’d change it. I know. I’ll try to find the source again. thanks.

        • 85 Sue in Minnesota
          September 4, 2011 at 1:22 pm

          I think that was a reference to Ron Suskind talking with officials in the Bush administration. Essentially they say they create the realities, as we react and attempt to catch up….., they stay one step ahead of us, continually inventing alternate realities. This conversation was mentioned in the Jay Rosen piece about our broken political media.

          We have to be proactive.

          We know they are attempting to derail the President and alter the public’s perceptions. Let’s not wait for them to do it. Case in point, some of us should be highlighting the President’s trip to NewJersey and highlighting what this administration has done positively with respect to disaster relief. They have been busy all year responding to crisis situations affecting millions of Americans. Then
          expand the picture by showing the contrast with Republicans who have openly stated that disaster relief must be negotiated. The Republicans have no problem starting wars all around the world, or propping up an enormous military complex, but they won’t care for their own citizens, with the money that their citizens have contributed through taxes? Seems to me this should be fully exploited. Nonstop, all day.

          It’s Labor Day weekend. Some tweeters should be championing the argument for unions, and all the positive ways organized unions have affected the lives of ALL American workers. And then highlight the efforts underway to sabatoge the unions by Republican administrations around the country. Another easily exploitable opportunity.

          And the MSM…..we need to exploit their smear campaign. Yellow journalism is alive and thriving in America. Just because Americans don’t want to acknowledge that doesn’t mean it isn’t true, they are more comfortable with denial. Shine the light.

          Our Twitter Brigade is in a very real way a ‘Light Brigade.’

    • 87 kittypat
      September 4, 2011 at 11:40 am

      Very well written and worth more than one read, I was left with the impression that although the author keeps mentioning the lack of bravery amongst the Democrats that he too is afraid of the current GOP and their “vision” for the U.S. In regard to the messaging around entitlements ie. ” earned benefits” I’ve heard that phrase used very recently and we should stick with it.

      • 88 Sue in Minnesota
        September 4, 2011 at 1:28 pm

        Think of the Republicans as bullies. And remind yourself how difficult it is to deal with bullies in reality. I thought he was overly harsh on the Democrats in that reference, but he is not aligned with them politically so I understand how it is convenient to attach equal blame tot them for the life of the problem. The Democrats do not have the same tools at their disposal to thwart them. Yet, that doesn’t excuse us from figuring out new and different approaches to the problem.

  17. 89 Debz
    September 4, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Something weird with word press today. My comment just went into oblivion!!

  18. 90 Sue in Minnesota
    September 4, 2011 at 10:31 am

    We see the MSM for what is. Accept it. How can we best respond, how can we turn this obstacle into an opportunity. We’ve got the analysis, now we need a plan of action.

    I didn’t comment yesterday, but I checked in….Zizi’s comment was brilliant, the Rosen’s insights into the political journalists mind set were important, as were the insights from the retired Congressional aide…………confimring what most of us have surmised long ago. We do not have the structual tools that the Republicans have, they are not sharing those tools with us, they are designed to be used against us. We need to develop our own, not for a short term fix, but for a long tem objective.

    • September 4, 2011 at 11:20 am

      If you think about it, people in Egypt and Libya did not have any media since the media was state-owned and controlled. But they succeeded by going around the media, using social media, Internet, and old-fashioned organizing. We have a higher literacy rate here, more Internet access. Surely we can organize to defeat the attempts of the GOP and top 1% to subvert our democracy.

      • September 4, 2011 at 1:22 pm

        Good point, Tracy. I wonder how they got themselves organized to the point where their message grew and gained feet? I also wonder if maybe our own media push-back will gain momentum later. For example, once there is a specific trigger, ex. after the jobs speech, or after …?

      • 93 Sue in Minnesota
        September 4, 2011 at 1:30 pm

        I so agree…that’s why I think we have to get serious about organizing around our own approach, we have to become our own MSM and compete for the attention of Americans.

  19. September 4, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Here’s why we have to work hard to support Democratic candidates to support PO — an excellent editorial on the current state of the Republican party .


  20. September 4, 2011 at 10:42 am

    I just received an email about Labor events being held tomorrow in California. One thing we can do on the ground is to attend one of these events. voice your support for unions, and if they ask for volunteers, chime in.

  21. 96 Debz
    September 4, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Just curious, Mittens opened a campaign office is Florida, Tampa?. Anyone see any photos we can compare to the opening of POTUS’ OFA office in Orlando with the overflow crowd?

  22. 104 JER
    September 4, 2011 at 11:10 am

    PBO about to depart Andrews AFB – livestream: http://www.ustream.tv/cbsnews

  23. September 4, 2011 at 11:27 am

    I was just looking at an interview on Fareed Zakaria GPS with photographer Platon.

    Planton has a book out ‘Power’

    There is a video of the photographer and a discription of the book at amazon:


    On GPS he said photographing Bush was one of the most difficult photographic sessions because he had the tendency to snarl.

    With President Obama he said he told the President that his mother or grandmother liked him very much and the president leaned forward and told him “Tell her I said helo.”

    In that interview he described also what it was like photographing Ghadafi at the UN.

    Also here you will find what Platon had to say about that experience photographing Mugabe:

    I hope someone posts the interview on Youtube.

  24. September 4, 2011 at 11:36 am

    A happy Sunday morning, TODville! Hope everyone is relaxing in their own way.

  25. 113 Valerie
    September 4, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Did I read earlier today someone mention a MEDIA BLACK OUT? …. how do organize that here, and when do we get started? 🙂

    • 114 Kasai
      September 4, 2011 at 12:26 pm

      A Media blackout would be a great start Valerie…We should start with Republicans Debate on MSNBC:-)

      so that media can report the Lowest rating ever in history of Presidential Debate…LOL

      • 115 Valerie
        September 4, 2011 at 1:28 pm

        I already planned on boycotting their Presidential Debate….Just so frustrated with all the constant attacks, that is have already stopped watching most of the cable shows. I only watch Rachels show when Melissa Harris-Perry is sitting in for her. Can’t stand Ed Schultz, or Wolfe Blitzer and I refuse to watch Meet the press on Sundays because David Gregory is and out and out Ass. guess I am waiting for a organized boycott, something like what color of change did to Glen Beck. Several sponsors ended up dropping Glenn Becks show and eventually, bye bye Glen Beck LOL

  26. 116 Kasai
    September 4, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Good Day Everyone:-)

    I didn’t watch the Sunday’s talk show, because I already knew that it will be dominated by Republicans..so I didn’t want to start my day by stressing out…Instead I took it to tweeter and showed my concern to the people in charge of messaging within the Administration…Enough is Enough!!!!

    Here’s some of my tweets to: David Axlored, TheDNC, DPFeiffer:

    @pfeiffer44 @dccc We work hard and donate to PBO re-election,all we ask is that you help send the message through Media,PBO cant do it alone.
    @davidaxelrod @dscc We the People want 2 know, Why aren’t you in Sundays Talk show & Media? Should we as donors B subjected 2 such lies?

    We can’t let the airwaves be bombarded by just Republicans, As Voters, Donors, Volunteers, We demand Equal Representation.

    I’ve had it..I am not going to donated a dime, until the Dems get their acts together….They slept in 2010 midterms…and I be damn If I will sit by the sideline, watching lazy Dems to have PBO carry the load on his own.

    If you agree, we need to send a clear message to everyone that sends us email asking for money.. Are they helping PBO? the answer Is NO.


  27. 117 zizi
    September 4, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    I’m sure everyone can understand the timing of the President’s request for the Ruby Bridges painting by Norman Rockwell to be loaned to the White House. This is indeed a turbulent time for him, and he absolutely needs the historical perspective, plus visual encouragement that the painting provides. In spite of his stoicism, and resolve to withstand such intense hatred that would wither lesser people, he is HUMAN after all. We will never be privy to the conversations that take place between PBO and First Lady Michelle, as it should be, but one can imagine how much their mutual love deepens even more with each successive hate-ball lobbed at him.

    And yet that love in turn makes the immoral wingnuts sputter even more in their jealousy of PBO. These teabaggers seriously need medical attention or better still mass incarceration (their own preferred solution to mental illness) for their psychopathic behavior.

  28. 120 Asher in Boston
    September 4, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    A happy sunday to y’all. Anyway, what a bunch of losers those “journalists” from LA, are. Wasting money just to go to Kenya and dig up dirt from PBO’s relatives.
    OT: Guys, I was sworn in as an American citizen this past wednesday what a day it was. Anyway, the ceremony was at TD Garden were the celtics play. We were 3414 people taking the oath, it was a very long day lining up and the other stuff. But anyway, as we sat waiting for the ceremony to begin as we listened to what we are to do like, applying for passports, registering to vote. As you can tell, all along I had started making friends as we waited and of course started talking about Potus and all the help he needs for I know that Mass is a Dem state, I figured that all these people have relatives and families in other states, so there I was pleading and convincing people that how ever tired they maybe, they should give the 2 mins to register to vote. I was so serious one would have thought I worked with the Uscis. Good news to report is that almost all the people waited patiently to register and all that I talked to did like wise. Was so happy when I filled that form and you would have seen my wide smile when I ticked off the Democrat box. Told them how important it is to vote right from the local elections, state and federal reminding them that the little ones are counting on us not to stay home and then the wackos are voted in and start dismantalling the education system like in Texas and other Southern states. Boy I was on fire and I wasnt relenting on breaking it down. The largest number of the new citizens were from Brazil, man, almost 3/4. Then Africans, like me, Hatians, Arabs and those from Australia, German and the Caribbeans.

    Mean while days before, my school mates were like, you mean all this time you were shooting off your mouth about Obama this, Obama that you were not a citizen? I said yeah I wasnt, but I live here and this country and the world need this guy. They were happy for me too and really impressed that I was politically involved. In 2008, I practically stalked all my school mates asking whether they had registered to vote and if not, was on their backs to do it and where to go and of course reminded them to show up to cast their ballot no matter what.

    Anyway, now I am ready to shoot off this mouth even more louder about 2012. Lol.

    • September 4, 2011 at 1:34 pm

      Congratulations, Asher! 😆

    • 123 Sue in Minnesota
      September 4, 2011 at 1:40 pm

      So happy for you Asher, and glad to consider you part of our American family. Also thank you for being an active and responsible voice on behalf of our President and for the future of America.

      You realize now, after preparing for your initiation, you are one of our better informed Americans. Maybe you would consider educational training seminars for ignorant tea partiers 😉 Just kidding. I am really happy for you, it has actually been the highlight of my so far quiet day.

      • 124 Asher in Boston
        September 4, 2011 at 2:07 pm

        Thanks, Sue. Guess I should consider the educational training seminars for the ignorant tea partiers. lol. I am so touched by your kind words.

    • 125 Walking_on_ Sunshine
      September 4, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      Congratulations Asher! I’m so happy for you that you’ll be able to vote for President Obama. Great work in the line!

      I’m also a citizen by choice and I am so proud to have the opportunity to vote for THIS president because he is a truly historic figure and it is a privilege to be able to vote for him.

      You are so right. The President’s re-election is important not just for this country but for the world. The way the world sees this country is closely tied to the way the President is treated here. There is a lot of ugliness but also inspiration and admiration and respect. I’ve never seen people react to a leader the way they respond to PBO. It’s real love, you know.

      Thank you for your enthusiasm and please continue to shoot off your mouth.

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