‘hardheaded liberal’

Michael Fullilove (Daily Beast): …. The president was accused of neglecting alliances and ceding too much ground to allies in Libya, but this week’s successes in Tripoli prove he’s heir to Roosevelt and Truman.

…. Conservative commentators have mocked Obama’s belief in the efficacy of international rules. Obama wrote in The Audacity of Hope that “nobody benefits more than we do from the observance of the international ‘rules of the road’.” Many of these rules were established by Roosevelt and Truman, who believed that a rule-based system amplified U.S. power rather than constraining it….

…. Obama’s response to the Arab Spring, though initially uncertain and clumsy, came to be characterized by a blend of caution and hardheaded liberalism. He now places a lesser premium than most of his recent predecessors did on the stability provided by Middle East allies, and a greater premium on their people’s right to democracy. But some of those allies can no longer provide stability anyway.

…. Events this week indicate that Obama’s approach in Libya has managed to cripple the Gaddafi regime in a way that maximizes the Libyan people’s ownership of the victory and minimizes the risks and costs to the United States. The contrast with George W. Bush’s approach in Iraq is stunning.

… Obama’s critics also fail to acknowledge that he is much more popular with allied publics than was his predecessor ….  it has restored drooping public support in allied countries for the idea of allying with Washington. For example, the number of Australians who believe the U.S. alliance is very important to their country’s security has shot up by 23 percent since the nadir of the Bush administration.

…. Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, the founders of America’s alliance system, were hardheaded liberals. They would certainly recognize Barack Obama as their heir.

Full article here

Thanks Dorothy

113 Responses to “‘hardheaded liberal’”

  1. August 28, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Mark my words.. he will be considered the greatest president this country has ever had by the time he’s finished, in my opinion he already is.. but the history books ultimately will tell the true story of President Barack Obama. And all these bullshit artists spewing trash across the tv will be vying for his time and attention when he is no longer a public servant, but a private citizen..

    • 2 COS
      August 28, 2011 at 1:59 pm

      Sherijr you are right. He and FLOTUS will be in demand in the US and abroad. I can see PBO marching with activists for causes he believe in. 🙂 He loves being with people.

      • 3 Pamela
        August 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm

        Thank you for your truth-saying! We all see his determination, his focus, his ability to take the kong view, and we support and celebrate him for it! History will maintain the correctness of his thinking. A new world is in it’s birth throes, and we are the midwives!

    • August 28, 2011 at 1:59 pm

      True that, but we must make sure those books aren’t written in Texas.

    • 10 EDP4BHO
      August 28, 2011 at 2:01 pm

      I agree with you sherijr. My one concern is for who will be writing those history books. This mustn’t be left up to partisans or ideologues, but from those with fundamentally scientific leanings. Only the unvarnished facts will do him justice.

    • August 28, 2011 at 3:08 pm

      Yep, you got that right sherijr 🙂

  2. 12 nintendowii10
    August 28, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Bbbbut the professional left keeps on telling me that President Obama has lost HIS BASE!!!! 😀

  3. 13 roh108
    August 28, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    OBAMA, The GREATEST President this Country has EVER Had.

  4. 14 Ladyhawke
    August 28, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Tamron Hall on MSNBC just did a tease where she asked the question “Did We Over Prepare for Hurricane Irene”? What a stupid question?? Meanwhile, every cable and network station has been giving Hurricane Irene 24X7 coverage. There has been breathless reporting showing downed trees/flooding, with dramatic music and reporters swaying in the rain and wind. And sadly there have been over 20 deaths that is likely to rise. Leave it to the media to try and make smart/efficient government a problem. It’s as if they are disappointed that it wasn’t a complete disaster.. Unbelievable…..

    • 15 nintendowii10
      August 28, 2011 at 2:00 pm

      They’re just itching to turn Hurricane Irene into President Obama’s “Katrina.”

      They are also upset that Hurricane Irene hasn’t played out according to their meme. They so wanted a repeat of Katrina, with thousands stranded, and when that doesn’t happen, they now whine that we OVER-PREPARED… better to be over-prepared than not prepared at all!

      • 16 EDP4BHO
        August 28, 2011 at 2:04 pm

        Guess Anderson Cooper is a bit dismayed. This denies him his journalistic throne 😀

        • 17 jacquelineoboomer
          August 28, 2011 at 2:28 pm

          Yeah, the fool. Saw him again “at the southernmost tip of Manhattan,” which I guess he thinks is kind of scary, today. He didn’t wear the typical CNN jacket, striking his own course – on his way to that Pulitzer. Oh, and the camera lens was covered with raindrops, thus further making me ask why he didn’t stay in the studio.

          • 18 Ladyhawke
            August 28, 2011 at 2:32 pm

            Anderson Cooper seems to spend more time posing for pictures like a Calvin Klein model than doing any real reporting. I used to like AC, but his head has gotten so big I don’t know how he can stand up straight.

            • August 28, 2011 at 2:39 pm

              I gave up on Anderson Cooper when he chose to play the Rev Wright tape over and over and over again. Prior to that I’d thought he was a smarter man.. I was wrong.

    • 20 COS
      August 28, 2011 at 2:00 pm

      MSM is so predictable. She is setting the meme for next week.

    • August 28, 2011 at 2:02 pm

      i guess it’s the MSM’s form of job security.

    • 23 Bill
      August 28, 2011 at 2:09 pm

      George Will was complaining on This Week that the government was over reacting to Irene. He said since he has a beach house in South Carolina he knows all about hurricanes. I guess that makes him an expert. The complaining of over reaction may be the most ridiculous criticism yet.of the President. They will never be satisfied.

    • August 28, 2011 at 2:12 pm

      If MSNBC execs are wondering why they continually lag behind in the ratings Tamron Hall just gave them the answer.

    • 32 Dakota
      August 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm

      What morons!

    • 33 Debz
      August 28, 2011 at 2:28 pm

      “over prepared?” The MSM is useless, they are the ones who were standing in the wind and rain breathlessly reporting that it was windy and rainy. Most of them seemed to be hoping that there would be a major disaster. Now they are concerned about being prepared? what idiots!!!

      • August 28, 2011 at 4:05 pm

        they are complaining because there is nothing for them to report on. No scandal, no b-day cake, no road tour touting Medicare part D, no nothing. This is part of the MSM’s beef with PBO, he rarely if ever gives them any scandal or red meat to chew on. That’s why they are always so pleased when Democrats and black folks start ragging on him, they are such asses.

        • 35 Ladyhawke
          August 28, 2011 at 4:08 pm

          llo, this is hilarious and so true: That’s why they are always so pleased when Democrats and black folks start ragging on him, they are such asses.

    • August 28, 2011 at 3:09 pm

      Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 😦

    • August 28, 2011 at 5:50 pm

      What a bunch of freakin idiots. Did we over prepare? What kind of a twit asks a question like that? It is insane. You can imagine what the response would be if they had not been so prepared. Obama’s Irene.

  5. 38 carolyn
    August 28, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    While all the people affected are just thankful it isn’t worse, and thankful preparations were made! Where do these people live? She’s saying too much preparation with the number of deaths????

    • 39 jacquelineoboomer
      August 28, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      Also, those people who heard from their government (federal, state, local) about preparations – and now about rescues and recovery – are going to THANK all those who helped keep them safe. We all criticize stuff, but after you’ve gone through something like Irene, you just thank your lucky stars you and your family members are still alive … you don’t sit in your still-standing home, thinking, “Did I overprepare?”

    • 41 jacquelineoboomer
      August 28, 2011 at 2:32 pm

      One might think this would be Perry’s only “education record.” Did the guy even attend school?

      • 42 COS
        August 28, 2011 at 2:40 pm

        I just read that Perry was in Iowa this weekend bragging about all of the 1 million jobs created by him while 2 million jobs were being lost under PBO. He is clearly running on a jobs record. I hope people won’t be fooled by this. Perhaps he should be asked how those jobs were created. I hope these big lies don’t stick and I hope his stance on SS will be his down fall. SS may be a ponzi scheme to him, but it is the one secure thing that people pay for and depend on when they retire.

  6. 43 utaustinliberal
    August 28, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    Good article. When President Obama is finished with his two terms, America and the world will look at his accomplishments with awe. He has changed the face that America presents to the world for the better. Legislatively, he has accomplished a great many important things. Looking at his record in just 2.5 years or so it is awe inspiring how much he has accomplished. The next deomcrat President who comes after him in 2016 might not be quite on the scale of the juggernaut that is President Obama, but I wish him or her well.

    Speaking of 2016, Maryland residents you people are the luckiest suckers ever! I’m freaking jealous of you guys. I hope you people know how lucky you are to have Governor Martin O’Malley and I hope you send him letters, tweets, calls, and emails with your thanks. Everytime I see him on the Sunday talk shows or the other political shows that air during the week, my admiration and respect only climb higher. He’s freaking GREAT! He was on Meet The Press with David Gregory (another moron) this morning and when David asked him about the hurricane and what his state has done to prepare, he talked about evacuation plans, shelters, rescue teams, making sure that power is restored as soon as possible and a whole host of other measures. After some more dialogue with David Gregory, where David didn’t mention the job that the Obama Administration was doing, Gov. O’Malley interrupted him and said that he would like to personally thank President Obama for the phenomenal job he and FEMA have been doing. He said they’ve been in control of the situation, they’ve been calling him and other local govt employees to make sure that they have everything they need. He said America should be proud to have a leader who is going above and beyond to make sure that the resulting damage is as minimal as possible. He also said that he’s glad about the team in place at FEMA. He went on to say that this is not the FEMA of before. This is a more than competent FEMA. David Gregory then grudgingly admitted that yes, this FEMA is not the disaster it was under the unmentioned administration.

    Cory Booker was also on MTP after Gov. Bob McDonnell and the first words out of Mayor Booker’s mouth was “I’m very very very proud of my President.” He went on to commend President Obama’s leadership and guidance throughout the hurricane preparedness. How President Obama and members of his administration, including FEMA were in regular contact with them even when President Obama was on vacation and how thankful he was. He then said that this hurricane should teach everyone that we need better infrastructure. A lot of the roads, bridges, boardwalks, municipal buildings and the like are very old and need updating and that he hopes congress members in Washington D.C. realize that.

    All in all it was nice to see Democrat Governors and Mayors out there pushing back against the meme that President Obama and his administration were underwhelming or overreaching.

    • 44 hopefruit2
      August 28, 2011 at 2:26 pm

      I would be quite happy with a O’Malley/Booker Presidential team in 2017 or beyond….

    • August 28, 2011 at 2:27 pm

      “When President Obama is finished with his two terms,”

      I like that. It’s not even a question. Just a pure statement of fact. Thanks utaustinliberal for telling it like it is and is going to be.

    • August 28, 2011 at 2:30 pm

      UT, since I’m planning a move to Baltimore in coming months, I’ve been following Maryland on twitter- via Gov O’Malley and the mayor of Baltimore, the Senators- and I’m with you: I am so impressed.. especially with the Governor, he livestreamed every few hours to update folks yesterday, he never failed to thank the feds for their assistance- he was so onthejob..

      Also Corey Booker, another outstanding mayor all over twitter yesterday keeping folks aware of Irene and what to do- and delivering pizzas to first responders and today to the police. What a great Mayor he is.

      • 48 Doris
        August 28, 2011 at 2:40 pm

        He’s an outstanding Governor. We are very happy with him. He’s a lot like the President in his values. He’s a man of the people and thus, MD is doing quite well in all areas. But, we would give him up for 2016. 😀

    • August 28, 2011 at 2:33 pm

      Thank you for this. It feels good to hear about people who appreciate competence. In my mind there is no such thing as being too prepared for a disaster. Over-responding is WAY better than the alternative.

    • 50 jacquelineoboomer
      August 28, 2011 at 2:38 pm

      utaustinliberal – Am I dreaming? All of that got out through the cable news wires? Thanks so much for the recap!

      You really need to turn some of your words into letters to the editor, if you aren’t doing that already. You can capture the moment as good as the professional writers in D.C.

  7. 52 desertflower
    August 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Meanwhile over at Raw Story…people are saying that Ron Paul is right to want to get rid of FEMA and people that can’t see his POV are idiots! AAHHHHH! Let them rant on about their savior….he man doesn’t have a snowballs chance.What a waste of a senate seat though…Texas, YOU CAN DO BETTER!!!

    • 53 Desraye
      August 28, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      Ah yes the Paulites ar out in full force today on the internet.

    • August 28, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      Paul has been running this anti goverment scam for over thirty years all the while getting every federal government perk he can lay his hands on.

    • August 28, 2011 at 3:54 pm

      “… What a waste of a senate seat though…Texas, YOU CAN DO BETTER!!!”

      Hi desertflower,

      So true!

      But, Ron Paul is the House Representative from TX. It’s his son, Rand Paul, who is the Senator from KY. 😉

      Don’t ya know, Ron Paul wants to be President. lol

      Cornyn and Hutchinson are the two TeaPUBLICAN Senators from TX…Grrr! 😡

      And, fortunately, for me and others, Gonzales is the DEM Representative from TX! 🙂

      YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!

      • 56 desertflower
        August 28, 2011 at 4:39 pm

        Hi, Snoop! You are so right…Crazy Paul’s are everywhere, hard to keep the stupid straight:)

    • August 28, 2011 at 4:12 pm

      can’t we just carve out a small piece of the US (hopefully somewhere off of Alaska) and put these people on it and say “sayonara, you crazy suckers” ?

  8. 58 Kasai
    August 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Hello TOD’s..Hope all the East Coaster are safe and sound this morning:-)

    Today is 48th year anniversay of the march in DC 08/28/1963.

    I dedicate this Video to a great Leader President Barack H. Obama and to all of you his guardian angels.

    We have a Leader with inner strength to overcome any obstacles and moves to a new one.
    his words are a mirror of his action, he serves not impress us, has ability to translate his vision into action
    I searched high and low for such a leader….and found him back in 2004.

    I thank God for President Barack Obama 🙂

    Have a wonderful day…on my way out to volunteer.. Keep Hope Alive!!!!!

  9. 60 jacquelineoboomer
    August 28, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    Democratic Rep. William Keating of MA was just on MSNBC talking about the effects of Irene on Cape Cod, praising the President’s signing of their declaration of emergency.

    This dreaded storm is allowing some of the BLUE state reps to speak favorably about PBO … we need to hear more of this, when it doesn’t follow a catastrophe.

    I don’t mean to turn the hurricane into political points, but PBO deserves some credit for something at some point. Maybe this will turn the tide, no pun intended.

  10. August 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    “Obama’s response to the Arab Spring, though initially uncertain and clumsy,..”

    Not sure how it could be uncertain and clumsy considering the Cairo speech is in the DNA of these uprisings and the man wrote a 5 page memo anticipating what was going to happen.

    Why is it necessary for these people to always take a gratuitous shot at this President no matter how many times the actual facts prove them wrong?

    • August 28, 2011 at 2:34 pm

      Yes to that derbingle.. it is so tiresome the need to always inflict a little attack prior to any statement of support.. and it is usually based on BS- because the writer/politician/media wasn’t paying attention in the first place. POTUS has been spot on in so many ways in so many arenas and so dang busy, that folks cannot, will not, choose not, to keep up with him.

    • August 28, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      This is what sticks in my craw. They can’t give him full credit without a “but.” Clumsy my foot.

    • 64 jacquelineoboomer
      August 28, 2011 at 2:40 pm

      Totally agree. Once I saw those code words, I could barely finish the piece.

    • 65 StR
      August 28, 2011 at 3:01 pm

      I think it was more coordinating the admin’s message with the State Department message. I think the author is being over critical on that point, but probably feels the need to not have a completely positive piece for fear of being labelled a “fluff piece” and being “in the tank” for President Obama. IIRC the clumsiness was the State department veterans selling their old lines. I can’t remember who it was, but didn’t one specifically go completely off message on purpose. We live in a different age now, instant communications and instant information and expectations you have to make an instant decision. 15-20 years ago you could wait weeks before putting out your official position, and in that time bring all parties onto the same page. This happened so quickly that some in the State, some with long relationships with Mubarak, fell into the long held policy of defending his regime.

      Now I’m sure there was discussions within the White House of what they should do and that there was powerful, influential voices on both sides. Initially they didn’t choose sides, but tried to ensure an atmosphere where there wouldn’t be a crackdown – in essence giving both sides room and hoped for a negotiated political solution. However Mubarak didn’t seem to accept or recognize the situation in his streets.

      • 66 jacquelineoboomer
        August 28, 2011 at 3:08 pm

        StR – Allow me to redeem myself today! :).

        I had forgotten the mixed message that briefly came out of the State Department early on (maybe I pushed that to the back of my mind, because I did not like it), and your reminder makes me feel a little better thinking that the reality of that was what the writer was addressing.

      • August 28, 2011 at 3:23 pm

        Yeah I remeber it was the envoy Hillar, Biden and Gates recommended who went off the beam. I belive even Hillary herself got the inital message wrong.

        But if the author meant clumsiness from the State Department veterans then he should say so. Instead he attributed it directly to the President. It’s a pattern that way too many of them have.

      • August 28, 2011 at 4:16 pm

        you are right, StR. The problem was that someone in PBO’s cabinet, may have eve been Joe(can’t remember who exactly) said one thing and Hillary said something else.

        • 70 utaustinliberal
          August 28, 2011 at 4:28 pm

          I don’t think it was VP Biden. I think it was PJ Crowley who worked in the State Dept and he resigned ( was probably fired) soon after.

    • 71 EDP4BHO
      August 28, 2011 at 3:48 pm

      This bears repeating again and again. President is BLACK. Anyone care to, please give me another reason he is denied full credit so often when full credit is due? Partisanship is not a good enough answer. Ideology doesn’t cut it. With all the successes of this President, the awareness, the well-thought out decisions, the patience, the good will, the strength of character, would merit anyone else proper credence. Not President Obama. Day in, day out, same snot. It’s damn pitiful, and those who practice it fill my nostrils with putridness.

      • 72 jacquelineoboomer
        August 28, 2011 at 4:22 pm

        Being black has got to be the first reason, consciously or subconsciously.

        Being brilliant and having all of the other attributes to be a successful man – and a successful, extraordinary President – must, combined, be the second.

        But all of us are writing down his successes, accomplishments, and achievements, and the haters know that. He’ll be re-elected, and they’ll start up again. However, at that point, President Obama and his Democratic-led House and Senate will put our country where it needs to be … smack dab in the 21st century … while we drag the haters kicking and screaming into the 18th.

      • 73 Betsy
        August 28, 2011 at 4:48 pm

        I agree. It’s because President Obama is black. I don’t know how some of these people can look at themselves in the mirror in the morning. It’s reprehensible.

    • August 28, 2011 at 3:55 pm

      They don’t want to look like “Obots”. Its a badge of honor to criticize never mind whether you are right or wrong. Notice the defense of some people when we call out their lies/misinformation in a statement/article they wrote about the President? they immediately claim that they are not allowed to criticize the president. They say nothing to refute your point though.

      • 75 jacquelineoboomer
        August 28, 2011 at 4:25 pm

        Also, remember what Rev. Al told CBC Chair Cleaver this past week. Paraphrased, “To be seen as a black leader and get on TV, you have to bash President Obama.”

  11. 76 Ladyhawke
    August 28, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    A MUST READ from PoliticusUSA:

    Irene VS Katrina: The Contrasting Ideologies of Obama and Bush

    Natural disasters like Irene and Katrina allow us to see ideology in action. President Obama left his vacation early, flew back to DC, coordinated with FEMA and state governments to prepare in advance for what appeared to be an exceptionally threatening hurricane. His ideology is one of practical, reasonable and prompt response in an attempt to mitigate the damage and save American lives.

    Some may say that the government under Obama over-reacted, but had the hurricane not down-graded, and had he not responded as he did, where would we be then?

    Part of being responsible is preparing in advance for trouble. Good leadership involves watching over the various agencies and states from a national level, making sure they are coordinating and getting what they need to respond appropriately.
    What Republicans most dislike about President Obama is that he continues to make a convincing argument for liberal philosophy through his actions.


  12. August 28, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    Having worked for a major relief agency for ten years, I can say that there is no such thing as being “over prepared” for disaster. Preparedness means gaming every possibility and being ready for it. You would have to live in a state of complete ignorance, like George Will, not to appreciate that natural disasters can cause enormous or minimal damage and only a fool would count on the lesser outcome. Suppose the President and Fema had decided to chill out on Irene and it devastated New York and brought Wall Street to a standstill with hundreds dead. Could have happened in a finger snap and to be unprepared for that would have been a dereliction of duty. And guess what?–when you “over-prepare” more lives are saved. Critics who speak strictly from ideology and hatred never make sense.

    We will never get a break from the media and the Sunday shows are the worst. That’s the reality we live with. I personally know of only two people in their late seventies who actually watch the Sunday shows. If my dentist offered Sunday root canal as an alternative to watching these shows I would take him up on it. Most people I see in daily life mow their lawn on Sunday morning, go to church, sleep late, read the comics, play with their kids or go out for the Burger King breakfast special.

    The constant sniping will go on and on in the exercise of the pundits relentless hatred of our president. Remember that pundits and ideologues of the time hated the Gettysburg address and thought Lincoln had shortchanged the memory of the dead with such a short speech. Those guys were as wrong-headed then as our own dull pundits are today. Lincoln was laughed at, taunted, hated and obstructed at every turn, but he kept on keeping on and brought victory to the union. That’s our Barack Obama–keeping on keeping on in the slow, tortuous path to victory.

  13. 83 carolyn
    August 28, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Glad to read a strong editorial from a writer with historical knowledge. He knows whereof he speaks regarding FDR, HST and now PBO. I’ve noticed that many of the self-styled liberal critics are very young, and obviously have not studied history. Some of the older liberal critics need to take a refresher course. When they talk FDR, they think ONLY of Social Security and the WPA. FDR is SO much more. Fortunately Roosevelt built alliances, and we were able to thwart Nazi Germany. Truman kept building alliances, and we were able to stand up to the Soviet Union. I grew up during the days of Truman and Eisenhower when we reaped the benefits of the alliance building. Fortunately, Truman sent Eleanor Roosevelt as our chief delegate in the founding of the U.N. too.
    After the Berlin Wall came down, there seemed to be the naive idea that alliances were no longer needed. WE had brought down the wall WRONG! so we were superior and the superpower, therefore didn’t need anyone else. It wasthe people who brought down the wall. These alliances were frayed by the time GWB came into “power” and he destroyed them. Remember “freedom fries” and all the other silliness and meanness about France because they wouldn’t go into Iraq? Well, they were right. We should not have gone. And, yes, evidently Blair was GWB’s “poodle”, althoughtthat is a misnomer…we have a poodle and she’s too smart to be suckered into anything like that! Blair and Bush were a weak pair. I’m beginning to think that Sarkozy is also a hardheaded realist in international affairs. Cameron is weak, but Obama can guide him.
    The repair work Obama has had to do in 2 1/2 years boggles the mind; not just domestically, but internationally. Two years ago it would not have been possible to build the alliance to deal with Libya. Look how far he’s brought us in this short time.
    Because of Obama, not just our country, but the world will be a better place. He has a vision for the whole world, and is working to make this a better place, for us and for our children and grandchildren.
    I’ve seen a lot of history…..I was born when Germany was marching into Poland, I’ve lived through WWII, the Korean war, the hippies, the space program, Nixon opening relations with China, Nixon’s resignation, Reagan’s posturing, Clinton and the impeachment process, the 9-11 bombing and the subsequent intrusions in our lives, the horrible Iraq invasion and Afghanistan and finally to the presidency of Barack Obama, for which I am profoundly grateful. I am so glad I lived long enough to experience this. Never before did I cry with gratitude when a person was elected president, but I sobbed with gratitude election night 2008. I wil work hard for his re-election in 2012, because I truly believe the future and destiny of our country and the world hang on his election. We need this hard-headed liberal in the White House!

    • 84 jacquelineoboomer
      August 28, 2011 at 3:02 pm

      What a profound history lesson for us all, carolyn. Thank you so much for writing and sharing that.

      Chips – Surely you are keeping an electronic record of your entire blog, from your first day of operation? This all needs to be turned over beyond 2017 for the archivists at the Barack Hussein Obama Presidential Library, whether it’s in Chicago or Hawaii!

    • August 28, 2011 at 3:07 pm

      How true Carolyn. You and i came along about the same time. Some of these young’ns don’t know anything about rationing, for instance. Ahhh. Those were the days(snark).

      • 86 jacquelineoboomer
        August 28, 2011 at 3:12 pm

        I’m a bit younger, but my Mother used to say she always had the most coffee rations, so all of her women friends on our street would come to her house bright and early every morning, for a cup! Good times! / snark x2

    • August 28, 2011 at 3:22 pm

      I still cry with gratitude. Thank you for writing this. Great lesson.

    • August 28, 2011 at 3:29 pm

      Carolyn, your words are so lovely and so meaningful. I’m so glad to hear you will work along side of us to re-elect PBO. We need foot soldiers exactly like you! I too cried my eyes out on Election Day 2008. I will never ever forget it. The horns honking. The streets, cafes, bars and restaurants in my neighborhood all full of people almost in disbelief that we had done it. It was almost like New Year’s Ever, really mind-blowing.

  14. 89 cuphalffull
    August 28, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    I was just wondering after reading the article if more and more journalists will stop dissembling and start being true to their craft again. Wouldn’t that be something, a kind of journalists’ spring. The lack of journalistic ethics is so pervasive and the influences of the Murdoch crime family, the Rove et. al. propaganda machine, and the media mergers from you know where, so damaging that I can almost smell a country ripe for a revolution. Let’s all call for it, a journalistic spring.

    • 90 jacquelineoboomer
      August 28, 2011 at 3:03 pm

      *journalists’ spring*

      Oh, please, God, give us that!

    • 92 StR
      August 28, 2011 at 3:14 pm

      I don’t think it will happen until AJ English gets a strong foothold on American television. American journalists are in both the entertainment and advertising business not in the news business. Remember when the Administration was pushing back on Fox lies and all the other networks jumped to the aid and defense of Fox – because they’re essentially all the same and don’t really compete against each other anymore. This competition used to act as a self-policing of sorts where bad journalism was called out and reputations were always on the line. Now reputations are meaningless – nobody has them, nobody cares. There is too much money in news at the top of the foodchain – the decision makers and the talking heads like their seven figure contracts and are willing to play the game to keep it rather than rocking the boat.

      The internet while great for information away from the MSM filter but you need to know where to find it. There seems to be an over flow of good and bad information and you never really know who you can trust as a source. Also with the internet folks choose their facts, and wall themselves off from differing views – creating their own private echo chambers to do nothing more than reenforce their world view.

    • August 28, 2011 at 3:21 pm

      OOOooooooo, I love that phrase!!

  15. August 28, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Maybe if we all started using this idea in tweets and emails to news programs and individual pundits, it would catch on. It’s worth a try–shame them into honesty!

  16. August 28, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    pfeiffer44 Dan Pfeiffer
    President Obama will deliver a statement on Hurricane Irene at 5 PM in the Rose Garden

  17. August 28, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Check this out. The original program from MLK’s I Have A Dream speech:



    • 98 jacquelineoboomer
      August 28, 2011 at 3:37 pm

      Oh, meta – I’ve never seen that before. Couldn’t get past the first line, which mentioned Marian Anderson, without getting tears in my eyes. When I think of her, I think of Eleanor Roosevelt’s stellar intervention in 1939, and the fact this wasn’t the great singer’s first performance at the Lincoln Memorial. Borrowed this from Wiki:

      “Anderson became an important figure in the struggle for black artists to overcome racial prejudice in the United States during the mid twentieth century. In 1939, the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) refused permission for Anderson to sing to an integrated audience in Constitution Hall. Their race-driven refusal placed Anderson into the spotlight of the international community on a level usually only found by high profile celebrities and politicians. With the aid of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt, Anderson performed a critically acclaimed open-air concert on Easter Sunday, April 9, 1939, on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C., to a crowd of more than 75,000 people and a radio audience in the millions. She continued to break barriers for black artists in the United States, becoming the first black person, American or otherwise, to perform at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City on January 7, 1955. Her performance as Ulrica in Giuseppe Verdi’s Un ballo in maschera at the Met was the only time she sang an opera role on stage.

      “Anderson was also an important symbol of grace and beauty during the civil rights movement in the 1960s, singing at the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom in 1963. She also worked for several years as a delegate to the United Nations Human Rights Committee and as a “goodwill ambassadress” for the United States Department of State. The recipient of numerous awards and honors, Anderson was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1963, the Kennedy Center Honors in 1978, the National Medal of Arts in 1986, and a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 1991.

      “Marian Anderson’s picture appears on the $5000 paper Series I Bond issued by the US Treasury.”

      She was born in 1897 and lived the good life until 1993 – wish she could have been with us in January 2009.

      • August 28, 2011 at 3:42 pm

        Awesome. And don’t forget Mahalia Jackson was there, too!! They were both giants and I remember their voices listening as a girl. I was young but I knew I was hearing something very, very special.

        • 100 jacquelineoboomer
          August 28, 2011 at 3:56 pm

          Found this quote about Mahalia Jackson: “Her good friend Martin Luther King Jr said, ‘A voice like hers comes along once in a millennium.'”

          How would you like to have Dr. King say something about YOU for the history books?

          Oh, yes, I remember Mahalia Jackson from my youth, too. Back in the late ’40s/early ’50s (who can remember?), before we got our first black and white TV, we’d walk to our grandmother’s house every day before 5 p.m., to watch hers and the few shows being aired at that time! That’s when I first saw and heard Mahalia Jackson perform, “He’s Got the Whole World in His Hands.” Seems like yesterday (almost).

    • 101 JojoRaze
      August 28, 2011 at 5:29 pm

      Totally agree on the chills. I love that they had two rabbis giving prayers. It shows how strong the black/Jewish ties were during the Civil Rights Movement. You are such a peach for listing this meta. Lovely and meaningful.

  18. 102 Fred
    August 28, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    We’ll definitely have a woman President in my lifetime.

    I just hope she’ll be a good leader. Some Republicans say, ‘Oh, you voted for Obama because he’s black.’ And that’s so offensive and condescending. I voted for him because he represents the things I believe in. And when it comes to a woman standing for President, I won’t campaign for her just because she’s a woman; I’ll campaign for her if I believe she’d be a good leader. Women have to stand up for what’s rightfully ours: equality. We don’t hate men – I certainly don’t – it’s just about getting respect.

    Zoe Zaldana 😀

    • 103 jacquelineoboomer
      August 28, 2011 at 3:46 pm

      Having lived/worked through the women’s liberation movement, which made inroads in bringing an even playing field, I agonized about my choice in 2007 and said to a friend, “I know I should vote for Hillary Clinton, because we just have to have our first woman President, but I can’t get past how she’s acting … and I’m really for Barack Obama.”

      My friend said, “We want our first woman President. But we want it to be the right first woman President.”

      Clearly, that was the last time I even considered voting for anyone other than BHO!

  19. 104 donna dem 4 obama
    August 28, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Three Years Ago today…we gathered around our tv’s and those who were lucky enough to be there took pride in being a part of this historic moment..

  20. 108 Fred
    August 28, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    lawd hammercy Cory Booker for President 😆
    dude was using a jet ski to deliver fresh pizza to folks in a shelter 😯 😆

  21. 110 jacquelineoboomer
    August 28, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    I refuse to listen to the questions on MSNBC, but, in his response, Mayor Cory Booker of Newark once again said that the preparatory actions directed by “our President and our Governor” made all the difference in how his city made ready for and responded to Irene.

  22. 112 carolyn
    August 28, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Yardarm57….I remember your definition of “expert”!!! I think you have to be of a “certain age” to remember that. I always loved it.

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