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Aug
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coming up

White House Live

Loved Africa’s comment on this: “Why is he giving that speech now? He should have done so two weeks ago.”

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Hi everyone, I have to head out for a few hours but I’ll catch up and update later – have a perfect day 😉


333 Responses to “coming up”


  1. 1 Andogriff
    August 26, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Thanks for the heads-up, Ms. Chips!

  2. 2 COS
    August 26, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Meta, since you did not have access to the response to the Cornell West FB article, I hope Chips don’t mind me posting it here for you.

    The Age of West???: In response to” Dr. King Weeps From His Grave” By CORNEL WEST.

    by Tracy Chiles McGhee on Friday, August 26, 2011 at 5:00am
    .

    The Age of West???: In response to” Dr. King Weeps From His Grave” By CORNEL WEST

    Tracy Chiles McGhee

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/26/opinion/martin-luther-king-jr-would-want-a-revolution-not-a-memorial.html?_r=1&src=tp&smid=fb-share

    “The age of Obama has fallen tragically short of fulfilling King’s prophetic legacy.” Cornel West

    You might as well drop the words “The age of” to get to the core of West’s criticism. That’s how I read it anyway. I wish it wasn’t so hard for me to distinguish the message from the messenger but I know I’m not alone. In honor of Dr. King, I will put my opinion in the universe just like West did.

    Here goes. Obama is a President and politician. Dr. King was a preacher and an exceptional civil rights leader. They are both inspirational and evoke symbols of change and hope but their roles are different. To get things done, Presidents have to navigate several constituencies in the realm of politics while facing opposition on every end yet push forward a national and global agenda that reflect their platform and ideology. Sacrifices and hard decisions must be made that have FAR-reaching consequences. Raise your hand if you want this job! Add issues of race and we got somebody walking on a tightrope with combat boots. I think it is the job of the grassroots leader to size up the President to see where they align in the struggle for social justice and support that wholeheartedly and where they don’t align, offer concrete solutions that reflect the cries of the people. But more importantly, the leader must inspire the people to take up the cause/fight to move the power structure on their own behalf. The leader has to lead a march symbolically and in reality and people and ACTION must follow despite the seemingly insurmountable challenges. Raise your hand if you want this job!

    I do believe that( the Age) of West should be compared to Dr. King; NOT Obama to Dr. King. Although Wests’ fight for the poor is on point, it is he that falls short. Why? Because he (and Smiley) have come to symbolize hateration nation for many and his message needs a translator for far too many. But above all else, the folks whose plight concerns West the most, the ones he loves so dearly, don’t see Obama as the “bad guy”. They recognize what that presidential brother symbolizes, what he’s up against, and that his success brings us considerably closer to the fulfillment of Dr.King’s dream than the alternative. And if West, in this respect, is one of the alternatives, no thanks.

    • August 26, 2011 at 9:49 am

      AWESOME. Thanks so much, COS. Is she tweeting any of this?

    • August 26, 2011 at 9:55 am

      Fantastic! If she had this on a blog, I’d tweet it to him along with some quotes pulled from it.

    • 9 prettyfoot58
      August 26, 2011 at 9:56 am

      AWESOMEEEEEEE AWESOMEEEEEEEE

      NOW YOU CAN SUBSTUTE THE CBC FOR WEST….

      THE MESSAGE IS THE SAME….

      THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAVE TRIED TO MISLEAST…OBSTRUCT…CONFUSE….IN FACT IN EVERY STRUGGLE YOU FIND FOLKS LIKE THIS…..

      BUT THEN TEHRE ARE FOLKS LIKE YOU…WHO SEE IT ALLLLL TO CLEARLY….

      gOD bLESS YOU!!

      YES WE CAN
      YYES WE DID
      YES WE WILL AGAIN

      • 10 prettyfoot58
        August 26, 2011 at 9:57 am

        AND ONE MORE THING…HOW DARE HE PRETND TO KNOW WHAT DR KING WOULD WANT!!

        • 11 57andFemale
          August 26, 2011 at 10:55 am

          To compare Dr. King’s universe to this universe a half a century later is absurd anyway.

        • August 26, 2011 at 11:12 am

          G’d morning everybody……i’m with you on that prettyfoot. By my reckoning West was a snotty-nosed kid during the Civil Rights movement. He even mentioned Emmitt Till in his article like they were on the same level. I knew Emmitt and i don’t remember seeing West in the neighborhood. West and the CBC are frauds. One is gonna make some dough on speaking tours and the trying to keep their jobs.

          • 13 Dakota
            August 26, 2011 at 1:01 pm

            This is what the problem is…his mentality is stuck in that era! I was a part of that era too but what West can’t seem to understand is that what worked then, is not what works now. I wholeheartedly support the education of all to remember, revere and uplift everything about the Civil Rights Movement, but c’mon…a “Poor People’s Bus Tour?” Just not the way to go in 2011! And besides, why a bus tour at this point in time? Where have these “tours” been for all these years? West (and Smiley) are struggling to stay relevent, but going about it in dated mindset. BTW: I still feel relevent. IMO, if Dr. King is weeping from his grave, it’s because people like West, Smiley, Waters & the CBC and the like, are too ego puffed up to constructively support Dr. King’s dream. The presidency of Barack Obama is a huge part of his dream. President Obama is not JUST the first African American president. He is brilliant, forward thinking, steady and all the adjectives that we use on a daily basis here to describe him as well as the best President ever. It’s too bad that these people are coming down on the wrong side of history.

      • August 26, 2011 at 12:36 pm

        If Dr. King weeps from his grave, it’s because of second class traders like Corny West, Tavis Smiley, Maxine Waters and the others. Grandma always used to say just because you have education, you still can be a fool. As if she was talking about West and Smiley.

        • August 26, 2011 at 12:44 pm

          Can someone answer a question for me, why did West and Smiley decide to fight for the poor this year? The poor have been around for along, long time. And I don’t recall seeing or hearing either one of those two traders out their fighting for anyone but themselves. Like they are doing now. This is all about Tavis and Corny. What a disgrace they are.

        • 16 Puddin"
          August 26, 2011 at 3:50 pm

          And my Mama used to always say, “GOD don’t like ugly and very few pretty”…West and Smiley think they are so smart and whatthey are doing is making them look good…to the contrary and at the end of the they will most definitely be “on the wrong side of history” …and I might add, “with their ass hanging out” as my Mama would say! I can’t stand neither one of these persons…I couldn’t read West’s article.

    • 17 Fred
      August 26, 2011 at 10:47 am

      bloody hell that was incredible.THANK YOU Tracy Chiles McGhee.

      I’ll take a pass too on Cornell West and Tavis Smiley and the rest of the bunch.thanks but NO THANKS!

    • 18 jacquelineoboomer
      August 26, 2011 at 11:59 am

      COS – Your daughter’s words are too good not to go viral. She’s the one who should have had the op-ed in the New York Times. I had tears in my eyes, the entire time I was reading it.

      Your daughter is exactly on target. Exactly. Cornel West is NOT.

    • 19 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 26, 2011 at 9:54 pm

      Absolutely FANTASTIC Op-ed of Tracey. 😀

  3. 20 Me4obama
    August 26, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Vacations don’t apply to Obama he goes on Workations. Libya, Earthquakes and Hurricanes. My heart is too heavy right now that this great man is never going to relax.

    • 21 edp4bho
      August 26, 2011 at 10:55 am

      Just heard on radio that the Obama family plans to leave on Saturday, as previously scheduled. If all is well enough to travel, I’m so glad he decided not to end his vacay early as some feel it “optically correct” . LOL !

      • 22 lamh34
        August 26, 2011 at 11:53 am

        Agreed.

        LIke I said last night, If FEMA and the Bush admin had did a better job at disaster management and preparedness, then the optics of the cake, the fly over and Condi Rice’s shoe shopping wouldn’t mean squat.

        This WH unlike Bush has proven again and again that throught all of the disasters during this presidency, that FEMA under the Obama administration are getting things done…optics be damned.

        Forget about the optics, I’m more assured that the President, FEMA, and the administration are more concerned with getting stuff done, quickly and efficiently…PERIOD.

        As someone who has survived Katrina, when you are sitting on a rooftop waiting to be rescued because the levees that the federal government’s own “Army Core of Engineers” deemed “adequate” but, actually werent, optics don’t mean shit!

        I could care less if the POTUS stays or goes, but I damn sure care that FEMA and the government agency that need to respond quickly are ready and exactly where they need to be.

        • 23 jacquelineoboomer
          August 26, 2011 at 12:01 pm

          Well said!

        • 24 Sue in Minnesota
          August 26, 2011 at 12:17 pm

          Honestly, my new least favorite word…optics. Surplants weak, caved, et al. Taking care of business is what matters…period. The President is never on vacation, his work goes with him.

          • 25 jacquelineoboomer
            August 26, 2011 at 12:24 pm

            Yes, “optics” can go. As well as “leading from behind.” The latter is my LEAST favorite new catch-phrase, which – apparently – only refers to PBO, when he gets a little too brilliant in diplomacy.

          • 29 StR
            August 26, 2011 at 2:01 pm

            Show me a politician who isn’t very cognizant of political optics, and I’ll show you a politician who has never been elected. You surely know how acutely aware the President’s 2008 campaign was of optics.

            • 30 Sue in Minnesota
              August 26, 2011 at 3:44 pm

              We evidently disagree with the emphasis this administration places on optics. It may be a factor, but I would suggest it is the last factor of their list of concerns when dealing in real time with real issues.
              I get the persuasive value of optics in campaigning……what I witness in President Obama, now that he occupies the White House and is not at the moment campaigning, is that his highest priority is on governing. I do not for one minute believe that this President makes his decisions based largely on optics, but manages the optics as decisions are moved forward In my mind there is a big difference.

            • 31 Puddin"
              August 26, 2011 at 4:31 pm

              As lamh34 said, “optics don’t mean shit”…actions speak louder than words (and optics). I am glad PBO decided to stay…he is on top of things (talking with the folks whose job it is to handle disasters and with the respective governors) I don’t know what he would do differently if he was in DC…

              • 32 StR
                August 26, 2011 at 4:52 pm

                Except of course he is leaving tonight.

                • 33 Puddin"
                  August 26, 2011 at 5:08 pm

                  Who are you…I left HP because of commentors like you. OMG, please take a break!

                  • 34 StR
                    August 26, 2011 at 6:55 pm

                    Commentators that pointed out that you were mistaken when you stated “I am glad PBO decided to stay…he is on top of things (talking with the folks whose job it is to handle disasters and with the respective governors) I don’t know what he would do differently if he was in DC” when he is in fact flying home tonight.

                    So you want to be “glad he’s staying” and not be informed that that isn’t the case?

                  • 35 nospin
                    August 26, 2011 at 10:42 pm

                    StR can’t have all that positivity going on on this site. Chips is getting too many hits. Too many folks getting organized and are raring to go. Too much coordinated efforts to push back against the spin. Can’t have that. Nope. StR has to balance the scales a bit. Get in under the radar and slowly but surely poison the well.

                    You are right that this isn’t new.

                    • 36 StR
                      August 26, 2011 at 10:59 pm

                      Yawn.

                      Answer me this, oh wise one – The President decided it was prudent to head back to Washington, and the Deputy Press Secretary said it wasn’t for safety concerns, so why did the President decide it was prudent to be back at the White House tonight? Because if what is written here is to be believed, whatever he could do from the White House he could do from the vacation location, and that President Obama doesn’t and shouldn’t worry about the political optics – Why is he going home tonight?

      • 37 StR
        August 26, 2011 at 12:11 pm

        We’ll see how this all works out for him. He goes from saying “All indications are that this will be a historic hurricane…now is the time for residents of communities to prepare without delay” but than doesn’t cut his MV vacation short one day to had back to Washington to better monitor this “historic hurricane”.

        • August 26, 2011 at 12:17 pm

          How does he better monitor the situation from DC?

          • 39 StR
            August 26, 2011 at 12:26 pm

            Does he have a Situation Room in his MV house?

            • 40 utaustinliberal
              August 26, 2011 at 12:31 pm

              Str, what is i with you and the so called friggin optics of the vacation? What the hell can he do in D.C. that can’t be done in MV? Even if he cuts his vacation short by one day, you think it’ll appease the crazies? They’ll simply peddle the meme that he’s a fraud and he’s only paying lip service and trying to look like a “leader.” He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. In my opinion, he should soak up as much sun, fun, and surf as he can before returning to the hell hole that is D.C. politics.

            • 41 edp4bho
              August 26, 2011 at 12:33 pm

              Well he damn sure can’t stop a storm, and if he could, by your standards, he’d be hopping all over the damn nation to rescue everybody. Please let this go, it does no good for anyone. It’s almost like firebagging. Now you can snap at me if you want, as you’ve done before, but this optics meme is as tired as all the others.

            • August 26, 2011 at 12:36 pm

              Why does he need the Situation Room? He’s got everthing he needs at his immediate disposal. He’s been in close contact via telephone with all the principals every day as necessary. If you heard his statement this morning, they are as prepared as they can be. it’s a very impressive operation and they’ve done it. We can’t predict whether it will be enough, but they have taken every possible precaution.

            • 53 GGail
              August 26, 2011 at 2:48 pm

              StR – with all of the audio/video (skype, whiteboard, conf call capabilities) – he has a “Situation Room” where ever he is.

        • 54 hopefruit2
          August 26, 2011 at 12:32 pm

          StR, NC is the only region that will experience hurricane force winds before the President leaves MV. And by the time they are assessing damage, injury, etc, he will be back in DC. It’s the job of the National Hurricane Center and FEMA, both of which are government agencies that provide the president with frequent regular updates and briefs, and follows his instructions. That is already taking place and will continue to take place whether or not the president leaves MV today or tomorrow.

        • 64 lamh34
          August 26, 2011 at 1:26 pm

          Lke I said to you last night, I’m thinking your whole line of questioning on this has more to do with you using this “historic hurricane” to criticize the vacation itself

          Give it up on the hurricane optics front. If you have a problem with the POTUS being on vacation in MV, then say so and please give it up with the bullshit.

          No one else may be, but I’m on to your type. You whatever means you can to criticize, but mask it into some concern for the subject… the definition of concern trolling.

          Now I admit I haven’t been here long, and maybe it’s just in this case that you’ve converted to concern trolling, I hope to be pleasantly surprised if this is an one time incident.

          • 65 nospin
            August 26, 2011 at 9:11 pm

            “I’m thinking your whole line of questioning on this has more to do with you using this “historic hurricane” to criticize the vacation itself”

            that is exactly what this is lamh34 and no you are not the only one who is on to it.

        • 66 lamh34
          August 26, 2011 at 1:28 pm

          BTW, I fully suspect, that if the POTUS does cuts his vay-kay short by one day, then you will be back and saying that you’ve been vindicated, but POTUS shouldn’t been back sooner. I’m would place bets on this.

          • 67 StR
            August 26, 2011 at 1:42 pm

            Riiight. Or you just heard that the President is coming back tonight and want you cover your ass from your drivel you posted two minutes earlier.

            • 68 lamh34
              August 26, 2011 at 1:55 pm

              Actually, it just proves my point, you are gleeful that the POTUS is coming back what 1 day early….oooh! you are so vidicated.

              I don’t need to cover my ass, because all along all I have said was the POTUS and the adminstration will decided when will be a good time that is safe and necessary for them to return.

              you have been the one harping that they needed to come back ASAP!

              Now let’s move on the your next “concern trolling” episode. I’m sure another is coming along soon.

              • 69 StR
                August 26, 2011 at 2:06 pm

                Proves nothing, because I was already being attacked for “feeling vindicated” even before I even read here he was coming back tonight.

                And you do need to cover your ass because the President and his advisers felt it was best to come back early – that was what I was saying that you took so much umbrage with.

        • 70 57andFemale
          August 26, 2011 at 3:29 pm

          I’m with you on this one, StR.

          • 71 nospin
            August 26, 2011 at 9:20 pm

            57andFemale – curious to know why PO needed to get back early vs. tomorrow as planned? We don’t expect the hurricane in the Washington Metropolitan area until later tomorrow. So what exactly does coming back early accomplish?

            Who benefits from PO twiddling his thumbs in the White House tonight? Which citizen do you think is saying at this time. . . Gosh I wish the President was sitting in the White House right this minute? What value does it add?

            In 2011 more people work remotely or telecommute. We have cell phones and access to all kinds of technology. You could be floating in the middle of the Atlantic and still meet your responsibilities. So why should the President sacrifice quality time with his family and return today vs. tomorrow?

  4. August 26, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Morning all. I had to laugh at this.GOPolitico has a story up (I will not link) about Anna Wintour, Vogue’s editor, and her support for the President. She is tremendous and it’s so clear they are pissed at the type of support the President garners from those who have money. It really makes their heads explode.

    • August 26, 2011 at 12:08 pm

      They’re terrified that The President is tapping into a money reserve that can equal or surpass the Koch Brothers. They thought the Citizen’s United ruling would always keep the Republicans at an advantage. The President is about to turn that into a lie.

      • 74 StR
        August 26, 2011 at 12:14 pm

        Until big money Dems start supporting third party groups and SuperPACS with equal money to the Koch’s, the CU ruling will be a huge boost for the GOP.

        Big money Dems give to humanitarian causes, big money GOP give money to political causes like think tanks and lobbyist groups.

        • 75 utaustinliberal
          August 26, 2011 at 12:27 pm

          Thanks for the heads up about the GOPolitico story Proud. I read it and the jealousy that drips from the page is hilarious! They’re mad that people like Anna Wintour, Gwyneth Palthrow, Anna Wintour’s boyfriend, Calvin Klein, Andre Leon Talley, Harvey Weinstein, and Vera Wang to name a few are still 100% behind the President. They’re pissed that the above mentioned peoples support of the President is unconditional and they aren’t harping on the President or screaming their “disappointment” at the top of their lungs for the rabid tabloid media to feed on. GOPpolitico folks are morons.

          • August 26, 2011 at 12:33 pm

            Word!

            I saw that bit today about Matt Damon refusing to meet with Arne Duncan and I thought, yeah. He couldn’t do that because he might have to listen and change his mind.

            • 77 edp4bho
              August 26, 2011 at 12:39 pm

              Matt’s a mealy mouth wuss!

            • August 26, 2011 at 1:15 pm

              Wait. Matt Damon has a problem with PBO’s education policy, has a chance to meet with Arne Duncan but won’t? How ridiculous is that? If this was a GOP administration they would have told Matt to stick it up his limo liberal ass and call it a day. You don’t turn down the chance to voice your concerns with the administration. Arne Duncan is not some low level WH rep.

          • August 26, 2011 at 12:49 pm

            Don’t leave out Tom Hanks. We don’t give a dam about Matt Damon. I always like Ben Afflick better.

        • 81 GGail
          August 26, 2011 at 2:56 pm

          Sounds like these people – Anna Wintour, Gwyneth Palthrow, Anna Wintour’s boyfriend, Calvin Klein, Andre Leon Talley, Harvey Weinstein, and Vera Wang to name a few are still 100% behind the President and THAT does concern the big money GOP.

        • August 26, 2011 at 4:05 pm

          That’s my point. The Pres is working on changing that equation. The proof of course is going to be next year.

        • 83 Puddin"
          August 26, 2011 at 4:56 pm

          Whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. 84 Fred
    August 26, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Rick Perry Conspired With Multinational Bank To Raise Revenues Off The Deaths Of Texas Teachers 😯
    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/26/304672/rick-perry-monetize-teacher-deaths/

  6. 96 Ladyhawke
    August 26, 2011 at 10:12 am

    There is an interesting discussion on CSPAN-2 right now about the Future of Libya (Implications of Libyan Rebellion). The next topic will be Libya’s Impact on NATO & The Atlantic Community.

  7. August 26, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Good Morning TOD family

    Just saw this really great video about the Tea Party and Republicans.

    Republican Tea Party Contract on America (subtle shift from Contract for America)
    Democrats rolled out what they said was a major initiative to link Republicans to the Tea Party movement.

    http://www.whatisworking.com/search/label/vid-ads-gop

  8. August 26, 2011 at 11:09 am

    New photo of PBO this morning. HE LOOKS FANTASTIC: rested, lots of sun…..WOWZERS.

    P082611PS-0022

  9. 108 Fred
    August 26, 2011 at 11:09 am

    a friend from NC just called and said “my wish is the hurricane doesn’t blow down the school …its been one long ass summer… I need a break!”

    😆 😆 😆 😆

  10. 111 Ladyhawke
    August 26, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Eric Cantor Revises History But Still Can’t Tell Us Where The Jobs Are
    =====================================================

    Nearly all students of history comprehend that it is the definitive purveyor of truth that can at once, dispel myths and give clarity so a society can avoid making the same mistakes over and over again. For the past two-and-a-half years though, there has been a rise in revisionist history on every subject from the original Christian intent of the Founders to the distortion that the conservative’s godhead, Ronald Reagan, saved the world from impending doom and Pagan domination of America. Republicans have coupled revisionist history with abject lies to portray the Obama Administration as the single biggest threat to human kind since the Plague, and they have become so audacious that they have attempted to revise recent history that is not yet written in any history books.

    One of the biggest liars and historical revisionists of late is House Majority Leader, Eric Cantor, who is parroting a continuous loop of doom and gloom about President Obama’s handling of the economy. It is one thing for people like Cantor to revise history from 1776, but when he tries to change the facts from a month ago, he has stepped over the line. Apparently Cantor thinks that all Americans are as stupid as Fox News’ viewers and conservative malcontents who cannot read or think critically, but he needs to know that there are plenty of Americans who read, listen, and recall what transpired in recent months.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/eric-cantor-revises-history

    • 112 auntydee
      August 26, 2011 at 12:52 pm

      Hello LadyHawk,
      I just watched a documentary on the Thrities, So many paralels to PBO’s Presidency.There were some of the same issues and oppostion from the political and religious groups, the documentary is called Project XX, Life in the Thrities. You can find it on Netfix. It is very old film.

  11. August 26, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Just watched this video of Nancy Pelosi talking to the United Steel Workers – she was clear, focused and spoke eloquently for the rights of workers. My favorite part – if corporations, are people, then workers are people. Spread this video around.

    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/08/nancy-pelose-speaks-to-uswu-workers-are.html

  12. 115 ChristiMtl
    August 26, 2011 at 11:38 am

    If you can’t stomach Cenk Uygur, skip this.
    No wonder they don’t want to meet their constituents.

    • 116 Doris
      August 26, 2011 at 12:13 pm

      Tear them a new tail. Thanks ChristiMtl. People aren’t stupid and they’re not taking it anymore.

    • 117 The fapper
      August 26, 2011 at 12:15 pm

      Cenk is still a douche. Even the idiots on that orange site are ignoring him now.

      btw, anyone else see that ridiculous conspiracy theory post that the DC earthquake was man made? It make it to the top of the rec list and it was NOT snark.

      That just goes to show how far down the rabbit hole that site has gone.

      • 118 edp4bho
        August 26, 2011 at 12:49 pm

        Was this to give PBO the disadvantage of being out of touch…..he golfing, we shaking.?….LOL. America has LOST IT’S MIND, folks. Let’s hope there are a majority, at least, of some sane citizens.

    • August 26, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      Thanks ChristMtl. What’s going on at these Republicans townhalls is huge and this President knows it. That’s why he’s going to propose a massive jobs bill (as well as debt reduction) and dare the GOP to kill it. People like Hulgren won’t be able to show their face in their own districts if they do. When a majority of Republicans support a tax increase on the rich and corporations you know the ground has shifted.

      BTW why couldn’t Cenk do this kind of stuff during his six month audition instead of blaming The President for any and everything?

      • 120 Sue in Minnesota
        August 26, 2011 at 12:59 pm

        Are the national news outlets reporting on these town halls? If they aren’t, why not? Anti-healthcare protests and tea bagging rallies were aired 24/7…….can anyone watching the national news fill me in?

      • 121 Sue in Minnesota
        August 26, 2011 at 1:03 pm

        And we should be in a proactive state…..calling/e-mailing/faxing/writing our representatives demanding a BIG JOBS PLAN written and signed into legislation. Get in gear now.

        • 122 jacquelineoboomer
          August 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm

          You are right. I sent my Republican congressman a comment a while back and, unfortunately, had to leave my address on his online comments form. Yesterday, I received a response in the mail from him. Almost burned it so I could toast a marshmallow, but I think now I will open the envelope and send him a paper response … shuddering all the way, since I don’t like to give him the attention or be in contact with any congressional Republicans, ever.

          • 123 Sue in Minnesota
            August 26, 2011 at 2:30 pm

            My Senators always reply to my letters/e-mails…Franken and Klobuchar ..Democrats of course. My Rep is Republican and never responds…twice I got a phone call, as it was happening to engage in a phone conference type town hall. Pissed that they didn’t at least give some advance to the event as I was not available to participate. I have participated in similiar events with Nancy Pelosi/Steve Isreal…and they have always notified you in advance. Our former Rep although a Republican was very moderate and very responsive. Our current Jackass needs to go….he has given his allegiance to both Norquist and ALEC and is in lock step with Republican obstuctionism. Just another shill for corporations and big money. Why a middle class/upper middle class district would support this is beyond me. We have some very wealthy people in this state, as I imagine every state does, their needs and demands almost always are given deference to. I used to think Minnesotans were sensible in general, seems Republican selfishness and in some cases extremism is infiltrating our state.

            • 124 a4alice
              August 26, 2011 at 2:47 pm

              I know what you mean Sue. Betty Mc, Al and Amy are the ones I correspond with and even though I realize that they probably get just a ton of mail and it is a form letter (I think at least) they always write something back that is pertinent and thoughtful. I especially like that I can tweet Al F. I wish that Amy K and Betty Mc were part of the Twitterverse.

    • 125 Walking_on_ Sunshine
      August 26, 2011 at 8:36 pm

      OK. I know that Cenk is on the shit list but this video is too good not to tweet. The crowd did a wonderful job of asking the right question and then not letting the guy deflect.

      The crowd deserve credit for this. No matter the messenger.

  13. August 26, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Hello everyone….has the prez spoken already?

  14. August 26, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Very reassured by PBO. Sounds like our FEMA and all other agencies have done everything they can possibly do to prepare for this storm.

    • 131 StR
      August 26, 2011 at 12:07 pm

      Washington and Martha’s Vinyard are both in Irene’s path, but one more day of vacation is part of preparing without delay.

      • 132 jacquelineoboomer
        August 26, 2011 at 12:12 pm

        Could we give him a break? 🙂

      • August 26, 2011 at 12:20 pm

        Don’t understand why you’re grinding this ax. The only thing that renders him on vacation at this point is that he’s played golf 3 times and basketball once. In my opinion, the rest is MSM right-wing hysteria.

        • 134 StR
          August 26, 2011 at 12:32 pm

          So you have no problem that Bush spent 400 days on his Crawford Ranch because he had a phone with him and thus had the same information he would have had being at the White House?

          Being at the White House at the time of a “historic hurricane” is not the same as being in Martha’s Vinyard with a phone connection. Telling folks in the path of the hurricane to prepare accordingly with haste, while at the same time seemingly not showing enough concern yourself when your home and your current vacation spot are both in the path is mixed messaging. He’s saying one thing, and doing another.

          • August 26, 2011 at 12:44 pm

            Please don’t go down the Bush path w/r/t President Obama. THERE IS NO COMPARISON on either the optics, the time spent on vacation or the responsible undertaking of his duties.

            The path of the hurricane is important but it has not landed yet. He will be in DC tomorrow to respond wherever and whenever necessary.

            • August 26, 2011 at 12:56 pm

              There is no mix messaging here at all. Why would he want to go into the path of the storm to prove something to these folks crying about optics? PBO could care less about this type of optic. I am glad that he ignored the MSM crying about his vacation in MV was not a good optic.

          • August 26, 2011 at 12:53 pm

            Just found out fronm inside source that POTUS is more concerned about the optics than the hurricane so he secretly left Martha’s Vineyard and he’s now hammering up plywood around the White House windows. He’s mext planning to run back and forth in a panic packing up The Beast to escape. Of course all this will be shown on all cable channels later tonight.

          • 141 lamh34
            August 26, 2011 at 1:51 pm

            Funny how you like to use that 400 days at his Crawford ranch comment whenever you think you can try to use it to shame people who criticized Bush’s vay-kay days. Last night it was about bush and the cake. now I see you’ve given up on the cake bit and now you are harping on the 400 days, just seems to proves that your whole “outrage” is just about using this hurricane to mask your own criticisms about the MV vacation.

        • 143 utaustinliberal
          August 26, 2011 at 12:37 pm

          I’m right there with you meta. I’m tired of this nonsense “optics” crap. It’s all manufactured outrage by the media. He took a 10 day vacation; congress took more than a month long vacation! I’m like “Get off his freaking back!” What the heck can he do about the hurricane in D.C. that he can’t do in MV? Let the man and his family soak up the last bits of their vacation before heading to the hell hole that is D.C. politics filled to the brim with teabaggers.

          • 144 Doris
            August 26, 2011 at 12:39 pm

            Say it again.

          • August 26, 2011 at 1:12 pm

            How much have this jackass media talk about Congress latest poll numbers. I saw on the tv were Congress latest approval number was at 12%. What a job Speaker Boehner and Eric Cantor is doing.

          • 146 lamh34
            August 26, 2011 at 1:44 pm

            Here’s the thing though….STR is full of BS. I haven’t heard hide nor tail about POTUS being on vacation during this storm from the MSM. It is NOT a meme that is being covered by “legitimate” news (i.e. everything but FoxNews and repubs) for any liberal or supporter to buy into this meme says something about that person…not POTUS.

            • 148 mb32
              August 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm

              One media outlet, National Journal I think, did tweet about the number of days PBO has taken so far and I was like, seriously – the vacay is almost over now. I kinda get what StR is saying about optics…unfortunately they are important in politics. Sometimes PBO goes along with it like during 08 campaign and sometimes he’s like ‘whatever, I’m going to Brazil even though we just bombed Libya or I’m taking this bus tour and not calling people back to DC no matter what y’all say’ I kinda like it when he takes that attitude, but I also get the optics argument too – it has killed many a campaign and presidency.

            • August 26, 2011 at 4:13 pm

              I won’t go there. Like it or not appearance is part of the political package.

        • 152 nospin
          August 26, 2011 at 9:25 pm

          because the black man does not deserve a vacation. That is what StR is saying. ESPECIALLY since it is at Martha’s Vineyard.

          StR is fooling no one.

      • 161 Sue in Minnesota
        August 26, 2011 at 12:25 pm

        I’m sure that they have determined what will work, and have used good judgement in deciding how to proceed. StR, are you worried about their safety, or concerned about the ‘optics’ ?

      • 165 lamh34
        August 26, 2011 at 1:41 pm

        Lke I said to you last night, I’m thinking your whole line of questioning on this has more to do with you using this “historic hurricane” to criticize the vacation itself

        Give it up on the hurricane optics front. If you have a problem with the POTUS being on vacation in MV, then say so and please give it up with the bullshit.

        No one else may be, but I’m on to your type. You whatever means you can to criticize, but mask it into some concern for the subject… the definition of concern trolling.

        Now I admit I haven’t been here long, and maybe it’s just in this case that you’ve converted to concern trolling, but I suspect this you know exactly what you are doing.

        • 166 Doris
          August 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm

          Well said. I’ve been on it for quite a while. But I try to be nice and ignore for Chips, but there is definitely a problem here. Thanks for saying it out loud.

          • 167 gcwp1
            August 26, 2011 at 2:19 pm

            That type of post, 24/7 is what turned me off this blog. And I don’t know what the MO is, just that it was too unsettling to read over and over…I am a better supporter for Obama without that sort of distraction.

            I need to add, of course, that TOD is awesome, nonetheless and I am aware that as a part-timer, I may not really, or should be, in the loop.

            Back to the garden – am harvesting early due to Irene.

      • August 26, 2011 at 3:32 pm

        GIVE IT UP…………MR. PRESIDENT ENJOY EVERY DROP OF YOUR WELL NEEDED VACATION…YOU DESRVE IT!!!!

  15. 171 Ladyhawke
    August 26, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    East Coast Prepares for Hurricane

    President declares state of emergency in NC, FEMA ready to act

    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano joined FEMA Director Craig Fugate and other officials to discuss the federal government’s preparations for Hurricane Irene. The storm is currently on track to hit North Carolina tomorrow. Sec. Napolitano reiterated that Irene is “a serious storm” but she later added that the affected areas are “going to have the resources they need for this hurricane.”

    The Governors of Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Connecticut and New York have all declared states of emergency in advance of the powerful storm’s arrival.

    http://www.c-span.org/Events/East-Coast-Prepares-for-Hurricane/10737423720-2/

  16. 172 zizi
    August 26, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    O/T Folks, the United Nations building in the Nigerian capital Abuja has been bombed. It was a car-laden bomb, 18+ people have been killed. This is senseless. Nigeria has been battling an extremist Islamist group, Boko Haram, that has been bombing indiscriminately. Not sure if they are responsible for this one, yet. http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_18762657?source=rss

  17. 176 Fred
    August 26, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    I am fucking speechless 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 😯 how about that bullet that was in her fucking brain asshole

    Potential Giffords Opponent Questions Her Fitness, Media Access: ‘She Is Held To A Different Standard’
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/potential-giffords-opponent-questions-her-fitness-media-access-she-is-held-to-a-different-standard.php

  18. 186 Obama Grandmama
    August 26, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Just heard a clip on NPR this morning from a Romney townhall in NH of Romney responding to a question about Social Security protection. He said where did you hear that Republicans did not want to protect Social Security? Was it from Democrats? Then he continued on with how Republicans were going to protect Social Security and Medicare….

    I would have yelled back from Paul Ryan’s plan that was to privatize the program supported by all the Republicans and from the debt ceiling meetings where all Republicans wanted those cuts. Romney himself probably is on tape saying the same thing. It just needs to be dug out. Maybe Rachel Maddow can find it. Can anyone here tweet her or send a message to her? I cannot find where to send the message. Where is a Tim Russert when we need him? Just another Romney flip flop. I also read an email that the GOP has just put out a big tv ad that cost $500 B saying they are about protecting Social Security and Medicare and the Dems are against protecting them.

  19. 189 Fred
    August 26, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Huntsman Signals Willingness To Raise Capital Gains Tax, Then His Campaign Walks It Back
    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/26/305200/huntsman-capital-gains-tax-raise/

  20. 192 Ladyhawke
    August 26, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Time-Traveling Rick Perry: Obama Policies Have Us ‘At The Precipice Of Defaulting’
    ================================================================

    We were at the precipice of a possible default on U.S. debt, but that ended three weeks ago when Congress and the White House agreed to raise the debt ceiling. Perry’s confusion also makes it worth pointing out the actual cause of that near-default (Republican hostage-taking) and its immediate effect (S&P’s downgrade of the U.S. credit rating because hardline GOP members refuse to compromise or govern responsibly).

    Later, Perry said that he’s running because he won’t “sit on the sideline and watch our country be destroyed economically by a president who has been conducting an experiment on the American economy for the last two-and-a-half years.” That’s a creative, if unoriginal, way of blaming Obama for the recession that was already a year old when he took office. It also stands the last decade of American history on its head. The Recovery Act’s mix of tax cuts and conventional stimulus spending is about as far from experimental as a policy could get.

    It was George W. Bush who ‘conducted an experiment on the American economy,’ by deepening the debt with massive supply-side tax cuts and putting anti-regulatory ideologues in top financial regulatory posts just as Wall Street was turning into Las Vegas. Bush’s right-wing experiment produced the most stagnant economic decade since World War II. And if Democrats had not successfully prevented Republican mad scientists from privatizing Social Security, the financial collapse that rounded out the Bush years would have been even worse for retirees.

    If Perry wants a promotion, he should bone up on the basics of how we got here.

    http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201108250008

    • 193 zizi
      August 26, 2011 at 1:04 pm

      Perry’s nonsense is deliberate. he is counting on the ignorance of his supporters to spread these outright lies. It churns up the hatred for Pres. Obama.

  21. 194 Fred
    August 26, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    breaking news!
    TPM Livewire
    TPM Livewirerss
    12:53 PM | Top News | #
    Obama Leaving Martha’s Vineyard Tonight

    President Obama will cut his vacation short in response to Hurricane Irene, leaving Martha’s Vineyard tonight, MSNBC reports.

    • 195 jacquelineoboomer
      August 26, 2011 at 1:06 pm

      I hope they travel safe, are safe, and that the hurricane veers well east into the Atlantic, so all of our coastal folks are safe.

    • 196 utaustinliberal
      August 26, 2011 at 1:12 pm

      Finally Str can rest. I’m sure PBO will land in D.C., get some plywood and run around boarding up peoples homes. Then he’ll head to NC, MD, DE, NY, NJ boarding up all peoples homes to show that he’s really really really concerned about the hurricane. The media will cover him 24/7 and cry out at what a fantastic super hero we have for a President. OMG….. he’s boarding up peoples homes, he’s saving drowning animals, he’s using his lethal stare to hold back the gale force winds of the hurricane. OMG…… he returns to D.C. and issues an executive order that stops Irene in her tracks. Clap, clap, clap, clap. Tears, tears, more tears. Women fainting, men pumping their fists. What a man, what a President, what a superhero! He can calm crying babies and he can stop a hurricane! Oh mercy me, my heart can now calm down, because PBO has won the optics debate. 🙄

  22. 200 Fred
    August 26, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    that is scary 😯

    Feds Investigated Aryan Nations Leader For Making Pro-Al Qaeda Statements
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/feds_investigated_aryan_nations_leader_for_making.php?ref=fpb

    • 201 a4alice
      August 26, 2011 at 2:04 pm

      eeeewwwww……now I gotta get some brain bleach………I’m gonna gooogle “kittens falling asleep” and peace out….. 🙂

  23. 202 zizi
    August 26, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    CNN reports that PBO cutting vacation short. returns this evening to White House

  24. August 26, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    OK, is everybody happy now?

    “President Obama concluded it would be “prudent” for him to be at the White House. He’s heading back to the White House this evening.”

    • 204 Doris
      August 26, 2011 at 1:05 pm

      This makes me sick. The man just can’t get any peace.

      • 205 jacquelineoboomer
        August 26, 2011 at 1:09 pm

        But it gives me peace that he does make decisions based on what he thinks is right, when he thinks it’s right, which I love, and not based on the top ten list of what everybody else thinks he should do.

        • 206 StR
          August 26, 2011 at 1:21 pm

          Yeah, guess he figures he’s better off – how did you put it up thread – “sit(ting) with a pair of binoculars on the South Portico of the White House live blogging it for us”.

          He thought this was the right thing to do ultimately, you all were treating is as a joke. Huh.

          Is he putting his red cape on and flying back or taking AF1? laughgigglesnort

          • 207 lamh34
            August 26, 2011 at 2:04 pm

            And now you can concern troll about something new…get to it.

          • 208 zizi
            August 26, 2011 at 2:13 pm

            Listen STR,
            Let me explain something to you. Your endless carping does grate on nerves. You do realize that when the President travels it is not like getting into your jalopy and hitting the highway or hopping on shuteye at your local airport. When YOU travel nobody else is disturbed. For the President, there are security measures that need to be reworked, the pressure on state and Local security & logistical resources that need to be taken into account. So Mass. & Washington DC being a part of the Hurricane path means that the state & local officials of both states were PART of the preparations to evacaute, shore up local government emergency supplies etc etc BEFORE the hurricane hits.

            So the President would NOT want his changing travel plans to adversely affect those local plans underway until an agreement could be reached about when/whether his movements would interrupt emergency planning. That is the reason why they did not announce earlier his decision on staying/leaving Martha’s vineyard. It has nothing to do with optics.

            Next time, think first.

            • 209 StR
              August 26, 2011 at 4:17 pm

              My endless carping? I first mentioned it yesterday in a different thread and had others agreeing that it was probably the best course. Than that argument was brought into this thread before I posted in it. That remarks are made about how I must have “feelings of vindication” before I even learned the President was coming back tonight. So my endless carping is rebutting remarks directed at me – I came into this thread my first reply was at 12:07pm, whereas folks discarding the President coming home early and “optics” were commenting as early as 10:55, referencing the “hoops” thread from yesterday”. But, yeah – it’s me carping on it. Riiight.

              I never said he didn’t have logistics to worry about. This has nothing with his timing of announcement. It’s about the opinion if he should have left early at all.

              Next time, think first yourself.

              • 210 Charmed
                August 26, 2011 at 10:45 pm

                You do carp a lot…it’s always something on any given day for any given thing….but some of your post are good…..but others induce a eyeroll

          • August 26, 2011 at 4:20 pm

            Neither. You know that truck the Clampetts used to drive? Well….

      • 212 hopefruit2
        August 26, 2011 at 1:10 pm

        He must have read StR’s post. StR feels vindicated – and relieved.

        • 213 utaustinliberal
          August 26, 2011 at 1:16 pm

          Finally Str can rest. I’m sure PBO will land in D.C., get some plywood and run around boarding up peoples homes. Then he’ll head to NC, MD, DE, NY, NJ boarding up all peoples homes to show that he’s really really really concerned about the hurricane. The media will cover him 24/7 and cry out at what a fantastic super hero we have for a President. OMG….. he’s boarding up peoples homes, he’s saving drowning animals, he’s using his lethal stare to hold back the gale force winds of the hurricane. OMG…… he returns to D.C. and issues an executive order that stops Irene in her tracks. Clap, clap, clap, clap. Tears, tears, more tears. Women fainting, men pumping their fists. What a man, what a President, what a superhero! He can calm crying babies and he can stop a hurricane! Oh mercy me, my heart can now calm down, because PBO has won the optics debate. 🙄 🙄

          • August 26, 2011 at 1:20 pm

            He does have that lethal stare going on. LOLz.

            You have to tweet this stuff so I can RT!!

          • 216 StR
            August 26, 2011 at 1:25 pm

            Yeah, he’ll do all that. But you see since the President is going home – his decision, you are mocking him for doing so and any of his inner circle for advising as much.

            • August 26, 2011 at 1:34 pm

              I think all we’ve been saying is that he has the best advice at his disposal, which of necessity changes with the facts on the ground. He is getting updated constantly for a reason. He’s decided that now is the time for him to leave. What I’m saying is that I don’t feel the need to second-guess his actions and I trust his judgement for these very reasons. It’s not that complicated.

            • 218 utaustinliberal
              August 26, 2011 at 1:35 pm

              I’m not mocking PBO or his inner circle. I’m mocking you for your ridiculous faux concern about the optics. Are you now going to whine about the optics of the First Lady and the First Daughters returning to D.C. tomorrow? Are you now going to whine about the horror of them being in MV blocking peoples hurricane preparation? Are you now going to whine about them using two planes instead of one to come back to D.C.? Are you now going to whine about blah blah blah. 🙄

              • 219 StR
                August 26, 2011 at 1:49 pm

                Than I guess you’re too dense to realize that President Obama heading back tonight means that he and others in his inner circle believe it’s best for whatever reason that he be back in Washington when Irene hits NC. And given it was clarified that he didn’t leave for safety concerns, I guess he just thought he should be in the White House and not “on vacation”; so he could better understand the situation and be in better contact with the key officials.

                It was all a big joke on how he shouldn’t leave and even suggesting that means I thought he should be live blogging with binoculars. Joke’s on you.

                • 220 utaustinliberal
                  August 26, 2011 at 2:04 pm

                  Hahahahahahahahahahaha You are really really really really ridiculous on so many levels. Your faux concern about the optics is called out for the nonsense it is and what do you do? You resort to insulting me by calling me dense and telling lamh34 that he/she spews drivel about the piss poor job GWB did concerning Hurricane Katrina. Because you know, in your mind GWB did a fantastic job concerning Katrina and PBO is doing a crap job concerning Irene. There are no words to describe the nonsense you’ve spilled about PBO and the so called optics of his MV vacation since day one. Hahahahahaha….. your faux concern is just beyond ridiculous. Just plain ridiculous. Thank goodness you’re not part of his inner circle; they don’t need this nonsense in addition to the teabagger filled crap they’re dealing with.

                  • 221 StR
                    August 26, 2011 at 2:16 pm

                    Riiight. But calling it “ridiculous faux concern” isn’t being insulting in the first place. I get it, setting up your case to run to Chips. Try and pull in an ally in lamh34…

                    • 222 utaustinliberal
                      August 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm

                      I’m going to run to Chips? What am I? 5? Hahahahahahahahahahaha. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Your faux concern about the so called optics of the vacation is beyond ridiculous.

                    • 223 lamh34
                      August 26, 2011 at 2:35 pm

                      “run to Chips…”…hahahaha.

                      dude unless I’m mistaken, your name is not Jesus so you are not being persecuted. I sure don’t plan to “run to Chips”, but I’ll def remember your M.O. in the future and conduct myself accordingly…without just laughing in your face or ignoring ya.

                    • 224 Doris
                      August 26, 2011 at 2:43 pm

                      Plenty of allies here.

                    • August 26, 2011 at 3:58 pm

                      STOP IT ALREADY…PLEASE!!!!

                • 226 a night owl
                  August 26, 2011 at 3:50 pm

                  First it was optics, now it’s adequate communications. And in between, comparing the President staying in MV one more day to Bush’s time at Crawford, well, you’ll have to forgive some of us for thinking that maybe you are just against the President being on vacation. Anyway, I’ll take you at your word that you just want what’s best for the country, the Democratic Party, and the President. Given that, may I suggest that the best place to send your advice and/or express your irritation is http://www.whitehouse.gov, as opposed to here?

                • 227 Charmed
                  August 26, 2011 at 10:49 pm

                  You act like the President only does things his advisers suggest to him. You don’t give the man any credit for making decisions on his own and that’s the rub. He’s in charge not the advisers.

            • 228 elo4obama/biden
              August 26, 2011 at 2:01 pm

              No mockery of the President. I had full confidence he and his advisors would make the right decision for safety or if there was a necessity for him being back at the WH. I just get tired of all the second guessers and the President Obama should do this, should do that. Not surprised they are returning a little early and would have assumed there were good reasons for returning as planned.

              Goodness knows there is nothing he can do before hand. This is local and state- Governors have already declared a state of emergency, and are on their local and national news. The President will be very busy in the aftermath. Honestly that’s where I’ve always expected to see our Presidents get to work, seeing the devastation for themselves, meeting with local and state government officials and yes holding some hands and offering support and inspiration to what will certainly be some devasted folks.

              Be safe.

            • 229 lamh34
              August 26, 2011 at 2:07 pm

              wait, now your saying we are mocking POTUS….hahahahah.

              you are a piece of work.

              Enjoy your next concern trolling

              • 230 StR
                August 26, 2011 at 2:16 pm

                You mock my opinion that he should leave today – the President decides to leave today. Not that hard to draw the connection.

                • 231 lamh34
                  August 26, 2011 at 2:32 pm

                  whatever dude/dudette, I’ve think I’ve got your M.O. So I’ll remember it in future conversations cause like I said, I suspect you will have more.

                  Good day sir!

                • 232 Sue in Minnesota
                  August 26, 2011 at 2:57 pm

                  No StR…what has been pointed out over and over is your concern for the ‘optics’..not that decisions are made on a fluid, real time basis.
                  And Zizi’s points are central to the whole set of factors weighed before a plan is finalized and then moves to action. We often fail to consider all the extenuating factors that inform their decisions.

                  Why do you allow yourself to feel ‘mocked’…many here simply disagreed with your position.

                  • 233 StR
                    August 26, 2011 at 4:31 pm

                    Zizi didn’t have a point, Zizi had a strawman. And this frame how I’m all about optics is false as well – but helps the strawman I guess. Here’s my posts from “hooptastic” on this yesterday –

                    #1-August 25, 2011 at 2:52 pm

                    I think President Obama and Family should cut the vacation short a day and come home tomorrow. Hurricane Irene could hit DC as early as Saturday, and given that it actually seems to be edging west, it could hit a lot of land starting in the N.Carolina on Friday.

                    #2 – There is also political optics at play that they won’ tell him about. This is going to be a nasty one, Governors up and down the coast are preemptively declaring states of emergency.

                    #3 – August 25, 2011 at 5:12 pm

                    America is more than just what you see on pundit television. Coming home early could help get the message out about the serious and size of the storm, could put focus on FEMA and disaster preparedness. I think he needs to be in the White House when this hits, there can’t be images of him departing MV at the end of his vacation the same time as N.Carolina is getting blasted. That would be akin to the Bush giving McCain the cake pic that we all love to throw in the GOP’s face.

                    It would also let the MV place he’s staying at secure itself for the hurricane, as I’m sure all the locals are probably running into trouble with the SS presence. Not to mention how many SS members live in NOVA? Have families to worry about and houses to worry about?

                    And then my early posts today were about the mixed message about how serious a threat this was while still choosing to stay for another day – the words didn’t match the actions. That wasn’t about optics either.

                    Is optics a part of my argument – absolutely, and they’re the of huge consideration to the Obama2012 campaign as well, and thus have to be a consideration into many things President Obama does. Surely they wouldn’t be any factor in major decisions, but whether or not to stay on vacation one last day while a major hurricane is threatening the whole of the East Coast – yeah, political optics have to be considered.

  25. 234 Frank
    August 26, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    President Obama hasn’t ignored a warning to evacuate. StR sounds like someone who likes to spew Republican talking points and is not a supporter of President Obama.

  26. August 26, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Ooopsies: Ohio not that into SpeakerBoehner either.

    From 37-37 approval-disapproval in May to 34-54 now and from 37-34 to 34-54 with Independents
    tinyurl.com/3shz3dh

    Waaaaaha….waaaaah.

  27. 241 StR
    August 26, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    The President’s statement –

    11:28 A.M. EDT

    THE PRESIDENT: Good morning, everybody. I want to say a few words about Hurricane Irene, urge Americans to take it seriously, and provide an overview of our ongoing federal preparations for what’s likely to be an extremely dangerous and costly storm.

    I’ve just convened a conference call with senior members of my emergency response team and directed them to make sure that we are bringing all federal resources to bear and deploying them properly to cope not only with the storm but also its aftermath. I’ve also spoken this morning with governors and mayors of major metropolitan areas along the Eastern Seaboard to let them know that this administration is in full support of their efforts to prepare for this storm and stands ready to fully support their response efforts. And we will continue to stay in close contact with them.

    I cannot stress this highly enough: If you are in the projected path of this hurricane, you have to take precautions now. Don’t wait. Don’t delay. We all hope for the best, but we have to be prepared for the worst. All of us have to take this storm seriously. You need to listen to your state and local officials, and if you are given an evacuation order, please follow it. Just to underscore this point: We ordered an aircraft carrier group out to sea to avoid this storm yesterday. So if you’re in the way of this hurricane, you should be preparing now.

    If you aren’t sure how to prepare your families or your home or your business for a hurricane or any other emergency, then you can visit Ready.gov — that’s Ready.gov — or Listo.gov. That’s Listo.gov.

    Now, since last weekend, FEMA has been deploying its Incident Management Assistance Teams to staging areas in communities up and down the coast. FEMA has millions of liters of water, millions of meals, and tens of thousands of cots and blankets, along with other supplies, pre-positioned along the Eastern Seaboard. And the American Red Cross has already begun preparing shelters in North Carolina and other states.

    These resources are all being coordinated with our state and local partners, and they stand ready to be deployed as necessary. But, again, if you are instructed to evacuate, please do so. It’s going to take time for first responders to begin rescue operations and to get the resources we’ve pre-positioned to people in need. So the more you can do to be prepared now — making a plan, make a supply kit, know your evacuation route, follow instructions of your local officials — the quicker we can focus our resources after the storm on those who need help the most.

    To sum up, all indications point to this being a historic hurricane. Although we can’t predict with perfect certainty the impact of Irene over the next few days, the federal government has spent the better part of last week working closely with officials in communities that could be affected by this storm to see to it that we are prepared. So now is the time for residents of these communities — in the hours that remain — to do the same. And FEMA and Craig Fugate, the director of FEMA, will be keeping people closely posted in the next 24, 48 hours.

    Thank you very much.

    • 242 hopefruit2
      August 26, 2011 at 1:13 pm

      StR you have been vindicated on your urgings that the President should leave before tomorrow morning. He has now decided to leave MV this evening. Our President probably read all your comments on his Blackberry.

      • 243 StR
        August 26, 2011 at 1:31 pm

        Yeah. Or just maybe he ultimately came to this conclusion after thinking the situation over and talking to advisers and FEMA officials. But hey, don’t let that stop you from being all passive aggressive and snarky.

  28. 245 isonprize
    August 26, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    test. TEST.

  29. 247 gcwp1
    August 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    StR will be. Until the next optical issue…

    We belittle the PL for second guessing the President, but some here do it as well.

    Flame me if you choose, but I don’t believe sitting at a computer 24/7 worrying about what MAY happen is helpful. Nor is listening 24/7 to the talking heads while posting about how dreadful they are. There has got to be more productive uses of Obama supporter’s time.

    The Twitter brigade/letter writing cmpaign here is awe inspiring and I have much appreciation for that. Chips unflagging energy and good humor is inspiring as well.

    Time to batten down the hatches.

  30. August 26, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    From twitter (This guy is a CBS WH correspondent and better than Knoller. He doesn’t seem to do any nasty snark):

    @petermaercbs
    White House explains Obama leaving Martha’s Vineyard early NOT for safety reasons. He wants to be at White House when storm makes landfall.

    • August 26, 2011 at 1:17 pm

      @petermaercbs PETER MAER
      Pres.Obama had conference call with Mayors of NYC, Philly, Baltimore, other cities and Govs of states in Irene path.

  31. 250 Sue in Minnesota
    August 26, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Well, I am sure he this was a well thought out decision…I doubt ‘optics’ is the basis for it Safe travels Obamas….enjoy what is left of your last day.

    • 251 Sue in Minnesota
      August 26, 2011 at 1:26 pm

      crappy typer…..sorry……I am sure this was a….

      Still not buying the ‘optics’ argument, if optics are a factor they are most probably relegated to the last factor on the list.

      Hoping and praying for the best for all who will be in the path of this storm.

  32. 252 utaustinliberal
    August 26, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Finally Str can rest. I’m sure PBO will land in D.C., get some plywood and run around boarding up peoples homes. Then he’ll head to NC, MD, DE, NY, NJ boarding up all peoples homes to show that he’s really really really concerned about the hurricane. The media will cover him 24/7 and cry out at what a fantastic super hero we have for a President. OMG….. he’s boarding up peoples homes, he’s saving drowning animals, he’s using his lethal stare to hold back the gale force winds of the hurricane. OMG…… he returns to D.C. and issues an executive order that stops Irene in her tracks. Clap, clap, clap, clap. Tears, tears, more tears. Women fainting, men pumping their fists. What a man, what a President, what a superhero! He can calm crying babies and he can stop a hurricane! Oh mercy me, my heart can now calm down, because PBO has won the optics debate. 🙄 🙄 🙄

    • 253 StR
      August 26, 2011 at 1:34 pm

      You really thought this was so cleaver you needed to post it twice? Or does that third emoticon make all the difference this time around?

      • 254 utaustinliberal
        August 26, 2011 at 1:40 pm

        Actually I do think it’s hilariously clever. It had to be repeated over and over again to highlight the ridiculousness of your faux concern with the optics of the vacation. Hmm…. I just might tweet it because it makes me ROTFLMAO. 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄

        • 255 Doris
          August 26, 2011 at 1:44 pm

          Repeat it as much as you want UT. I love it. 😀

        • 256 StR
          August 26, 2011 at 1:54 pm

          What is lost on you is that fact the President did believe the right decision was to be back in Washington. So I guess President Obama is showing faux concern.

          • 257 utaustinliberal
            August 26, 2011 at 2:09 pm

            President Obama doesn’t deal in the crap nonsense you deal in. He’s back in Washington for his own reasons not for your PL driven ridiculous nonsense about the optics of the vacation. The meme you keep peddling contains such falsities and they’re rightly being called out. When you speak truth, we’ll listen. When you repeat PL crap about his vacation (which you’ve been doing since day one) we’ll rightfully call you out. If you can’t deal with it, then tough titties.

            • 258 StR
              August 26, 2011 at 3:25 pm

              Really since day one? Because the neat thing about the internet is one can go back and see all the post they’ve made – here are the ones I’ve made in Vacation Specific topics –

              August 17, 2011 at 10:50 pm in “Thursday”

              The government doesn’t stop working because the President takes a vacation. That’s why we have Cabinet Secretaries for and a Vice President. The President still will get daily briefings.

              The President likes to write on vacation, I suspect he’ll largely write his jobs/economy address while away.

              I wonder what attacks the GOP/MSM have in store over the next week+, probably a vid or two asking unemployed folks about the last time they took a 10 day vacation and the like.

              August 17, 2011 at 11:07 pm in “Thursday”

              I wouldn’t be surprised if the GOP unveiled a Jobs/Cuts bill of their very own on Monday so they can control the narrative for the week, highlight the President being on a long vacation and President Obama would look like he’s playing catch-up. Part of their strategy has been to grind him down, to give no rest – so this week+ will be no different.

              August 18, 2011 at 7:31 pm in “Afternoon Massachusets”

              If only it was called Martha’s Ranch – then the MSM and GOP wouldn’t care.

              August 19, 2011 at 2:54 pm in “Booked” – commenting in a photo thread

              Even the secret service is in dress casual.

              August 19, 2011 at 9:15 pm in “Par for the Course”

              Is he playing solo? Does Michelle golf?

              August 21, 2011 at 8:41 pm in “Mubarak etc Sandwich”

              The SS agent there seems to have replaced everybodies favorite Joe Clancy. Older, experienced hand, always closest to the President.

              August 22, 2011 at 3:02 pm in “Gaddafi’s rule is over”

              Audio only could have been done for security reasons as I believe I read that where he’s actually staying is secret. This probably would have been a statement Pres. Obama would have delivered from the Rose Garden if he was in Washington. But to hide location he’d have to do it indoors and in front of a backdrop sorta deal and that wouldn’t be necessarily a good look.

              ************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

              So I was defending the vacation or taking part in the photo threads – So I guess you know where you can put that “since day one” LIE.

              As a matter of fact here is the first post I made on the possibility of ending the vacation early –

              August 25, 2011 at 2:52 pm in “Hooptastic”

              I think President Obama and Family should cut the vacation short a day and come home tomorrow. Hurricane Irene could hit DC as early as Saturday, and given that it actually seems to be edging west, it could hit a lot of land starting in the N.Carolina on Friday.
              Reply

              -So as you can see, that was from yesterday afternoon. But don’t let silly things like facts get in the way of an attempted smear.

              • 259 utaustinliberal
                August 26, 2011 at 3:46 pm

                OMG! Hahahahahahahahaha you actually selectively posted certain comments to cast yourself in a wonderful light. That’s so freaking ridiculous. Everyone wasn’t indulging in a smear campaign. You came out of the bat spewing lies, then decided to insult people who didn’t agree with you and we all rightfully pushed back and called you out on your PL driven lies and faux concern about the optics of the vacation. I said it before and I’ll say it again; If you can’t deal with the truth, then tough titties.

                • 260 StR
                  August 26, 2011 at 3:57 pm

                  No, I exposed you as a liar. Period. You make up a storyline in your head, convince yourself it’s reality, and then post it here.

                  I refute your claims with evidence to the contrary, you reply with hollow bluster. Because that’s all you got.

                  • 261 utaustinliberal
                    August 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm

                    Sure Str, sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Me and everyone here are liars for calling out your untruths. Sureeeeeeeeee. Keep believing that meme. 🙄

          • 262 Charmed
            August 26, 2011 at 10:57 pm

            But did it say he was going back to washington because of the optics? You have shown faux concern.

  33. August 26, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Oh dear, what will the media say next:

    @petermaercbs
    PETER MAER
    While the President is leaving Martha’s Vineyard tonight, the 1st Lady and daughters will depart tomorrow.

    • August 26, 2011 at 1:30 pm

      Oooop, op, up, errrr…..

      petermaercbs PETER MAER
      White House corrects and says unclear when the rest of the 1st family will return to DC from Martha’s Vineyard.

      This optics stuff is hard.

  34. 265 carolyn
    August 26, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    We all knew he would act wisely. He can’t just say on the spur of the moment…we’re leaving right now. Preparations have to be made. No doubt the S.S. needs time to co-ordinate everything. It is only a short flight from MV to D.C. I want him and his family in the SAFEST place possible!!! Those structures on MV didn’t look all that secure…..I trust the basement of the White House for his safety!!!!! It’s not about optics, it’s about the wise choice, but not panicking. He does not panic.

    • 266 sam uk obama supporter
      August 26, 2011 at 2:03 pm

      Sad that he must end his ‘vacation’ early but President Obama has been listening to his advisers and made an informed choice. I 100% trust him. Wishing him and his family a safe journey home and I am thinking and praying for all those in the path of Hurricane Irene.

  35. August 26, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    They were gonna let the POTUS, and his family weather the storm…..as if, good grief!!!!!

  36. August 26, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    WOW, has WeeSeeYou totally changed its dealio????

    http://pragmaticobotsunite.blogspot.com/

  37. 273 hopefruit2
    August 26, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Does anyone know the extent cellphone service after power outages? For instance with the smartphones (IPhones, Android Blackberry, etc)

    Can we still send texts, IM’s etc?

    • 274 proudmemberofglobalzero
      August 26, 2011 at 1:56 pm

      From my time in 2005 during Katrina, Rita, and Wilma…I was without power for 1..3..and 16 days respectively..I do not remember cells being out that long.

    • 275 elo4obama/biden
      August 26, 2011 at 2:11 pm

      I just saw something about this on the news today. The expert had a lot of confidence in texting ability. He talked about how so many people were unable to use their cells after the EC earthquake. I turned channels just as he started to talk about internet usage, which I think he was saying if you have power its a more consistant communication source.

    • 276 hopefruit2
      August 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm

      Thanks guys!

  38. 277 hopefruit2
    August 26, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Is there a way to charge your cellphone after a power outage (if you don’t have a car?)

  39. 281 PoliticalJunkessa
    August 26, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Lawdhammercy. Where’s Momma Chips?

    *runs to get mama*

  40. 283 Kathy
    August 26, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    A spokesman for first lady Michelle Obama said she and the Obama’s two daughters will return with him.

    Obama was expected to depart at 11 a.m. Saturday.

  41. August 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    petermaercbs PETER MAER
    White House now says Michelle, Malia and Sasha will head back to DC with Dad tonight.

    • 285 utaustinliberal
      August 26, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      OMG!!!! They’re all coming back tonight? And the world hasn’t gone to bits and pieces. 🙄 Thanks for the info meta. I guess PL nonsense will still see a problem with the First Family coming back tonight. Nothing they do is ever enough for some people.

      • 286 QuietObserver
        August 26, 2011 at 2:43 pm

        There is an active smear campaign against FLOTUS right now. Among other things, they’ve been trying to paint her as a wasteful spender/power abuser (for flying separately from POTUS sometimes). Of course, these a-holes don’t take into consideration the possible security/privacy aspects of POTUS and FLOTUS & fam flying on separate planes. Whatever. I’m sure they’ll find fault with them coming back together.

        • August 26, 2011 at 2:53 pm

          Yes, some jerks are now suing for the details of the costs of her trip to Africa. It’s beyond sick.

          • 288 utaustinliberal
            August 26, 2011 at 3:02 pm

            Are they freaking kidding me? Every First Lady uses the same White House amenities that she uses so why is it now that people are concerned? She isn’t paid a salary, she pays for her wardrobe, she pays for a lot of stuff. The trip to Africa was to strengthen America’s ties with the motherland as it is called. It was to talk about education, HIV, leadership, encourage youth leaders and promote her causes which have gained worldwide recognition. When Laura Bush vacationed in Africa with ther daughters, no one sued to see the details of the cost of the trip. Some people have no lives.

          • 297 Sue in Minnesota
            August 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm

            Fuck them! sorry…had to go there. Hope they pay for the legal expenses borne by the government for their trivial persuit.

    • 298 zizi
      August 26, 2011 at 3:14 pm

      This peter guy is an asshole. I’m sorry to say. It was he who reported the separate travel in the first place,that the White House quickly corrected him for. So it is not as if the White House changed its mind to now announce that the entire family is coming together. This is the lie machine hard at work.

  42. 299 Dakota
    August 26, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    This is OT, but I just received this email today:

    Senator-Elect Jessica King

    People For the American Way came through once again, and I am so glad you did. Thank you!

    I called Michael last week to tell him how much I appreciated all the invaluable help from PFAW and its members to unseat Republican Sen. Randy Hopper in the District 18 recall election. I had to write to you to thank you directly.

    I won by 1,200 votes and I have no doubt that PFAW’s help was absolutely critical in our victory. I particularly loved the direct mail piece that went out in my district to expose my opponent’s record and his attacks on the middle class and working families. And the extra airtime PFAW bought to run its ad against Sen. Hopper in the final week really made the difference and helped put me over the top.

    While we Democrats fell just shy of flipping the Senate away from Republican control, the two seats we gained will make a huge difference, and I look forward to being a strong voice of progress for my constituents and all the working families of Wisconsin. And I will make you proud by fighting every attempt to expand the war on voting rights, public education and the working men and women of Wisconsin.

    Thanks again! I can’t wait to work with you on the many battles to come.

    With sincere appreciation,

    Senator-Elect Jessica King
    Wisconsin Senate District 18

  43. 300 lamh34
    August 26, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Alright, I’m done talking about optics.

    Now’s the time for anyone in the path of the hurricane to evacuate if recommended.

    As a “Katrina survivor” can I just say that one kinda obvious consequence of Katrina that is a good one, is that for what ever it’s worth, people now take Hurricane evacuation and Hurricane preparedness much more seriously than they used to definitely on the Gulf coast, but also along all the coast.

    So some advice from someone who’s been there.

    #1 LESSON LEARNED FROM KATRINA If you can, evacuate early. As a hospital lab employee, I understand that some employees are on call and have to stay at the hospital if a weather emergency is called, but if you are not considered “essential personnel”, then my understanding is that in cases of weather emergencies you do NOT have to go into work.

    If you cannot evacuate, then some incidental things that stick in my head:

    if you have a cell, make sure it’s fully charged and if you have a spare cell battery, make sure it’s charged too. The big lesson we learned from Katrina, was that cell phone calls may not work, but text messages do.

    Make sure you have a radio or clock radio that can run on batteries and electricity just in case electricity goes out and to save energy on your phone, you can still hear updates from radio.

    If you do have a land line, then make sure you have a non-cordless phone or a phone that doesn’t need electricity for connection. The is no point in having cordless phones but no electricity to allow them to connect. The phone lines may still work, but if you only have a cordless, then you are without any juice to power it if the electricity is out.

    • 301 Anonymous
      August 26, 2011 at 2:54 pm

      We are in CT, and I think I’ve covered everything. Today I’m going to store gardening knicknacks and supplies I keep on the patio. Husband will take in the heavier objects. Contacted relatives in path to check on them. And now we wait.

      Thank you so much for taking the time to post tips. You weren’t clear if you still live in NO, if you do – good luck to you as well.

    • 302 MsKitty
      August 26, 2011 at 3:21 pm

      That’s so true about the non-cordless phone. People laugh at me for still having one, but I counter them with what you just said.

  44. August 26, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    Obama’s Organize for America Orlando office opening packed
    2012 presidential race, Barack Obama, Debbie Wasserman Schultz_ — posted by scottpowers on August, 25 2011 8:52 PM

  45. 310 Fred
    August 26, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    😯 😯 😯 I’ll add that he didn’t have one prior to 9/11 either considering he was told of a potential attack 🙄

    Bush ‘Didn’t Have A Strategy’ In Making Post-9/11 Policy
    http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/26/305592/bush-911-strategy/

  46. August 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    DOT grants to Northeast Corridor will add jobs, continue to deliver high-speed rail to America
    http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/08/dot-grants-to-northeast-corridor-will.html

  47. 315 Ladyhawke
    August 26, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Tweet worthy…..

    GOVERNOR HIGH GAS PRICES
    ==========================

    Don’t you think that sooner or later one of Perry’s opponents is going to point out that Texas’s enrichment has been at the expense of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and so on?

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2011/08/governor_high_gas_prices031790.php#

    • 316 COS
      August 26, 2011 at 4:01 pm

      Good read. I am surprised that Perry is able to walk with all the baggage that he is carrying. Instead of Bachman and Romney bashing Obama, they need to start talking about Perry more.

  48. August 26, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    great video about michele bachman

  49. 322 proudmemberofglobalzero
    August 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    If anyone would like to donate…

    http://www.loisfrankelforcongress.com/

    Lois Frankel is running for Allen Wests congressional seat in Florida….let’s make this happen.

  50. August 26, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    This is cool:

    Warren Buffett, Austan Goolsbee headline Obama fund-raiser

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2011/08/warren_buffett_austan_goolsbee.html

    I miss Austan!

    • 324 Ladyhawke
      August 26, 2011 at 4:43 pm

      I miss him too. Austan Goolsbee was one of my favorites. His White Board presentations were the best. He is very witty and smart. I hope we will be seeing him on the tv machine.

  51. August 26, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Hey all you smart informed people; I heard something today on the Thom Hartman show today that I thought you might know about.

    Sorry if this has been brought up already; I haven’t looked at all the comments.

    What about the pipline from Canada that’s environmentally dangerous? Thom Hartman was saying the White House was leaving it up to the State Department (Hilary) to decide o the matter. Although Hartman pointed out that the State Department does what the White House wants. He said they were going ahead with it and that environmentalists are up in arms.

    Now I don’t for a minute think the President is doing anything to hurt the environment.

    What does anyone know about this?

    Thanks!

    Sherry

    • August 26, 2011 at 4:05 pm

      I don’t believe there has been a decision on this. And I’m sure there’s more complexity to the issue than I know. I’m going to wait to see and hear the results before I react.

    • 327 StR
      August 26, 2011 at 5:04 pm

      State Department signed off on it officially today – it’s necessary because the pipeline would involve international borders. That was step one, now the EPA gets 90 days to chime in on it from the environmental perspective. Then President Obama has 90 days from their decision to come to a final decision on the matter.

  52. August 26, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    More awesome here!

  53. August 26, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    Okay, Grandma Chips is back to slap some wrists!

    Please, please, please, please, when you disagree, try to disagree without being disagreeable – as our man says. 😉

    Thanks.

    • August 26, 2011 at 5:19 pm

      ‘Grandma Chips’? ‘Grandma’? So, what didn’t you tell us? Are you trying to tell us now? Is this a new grandchild? Do we need to plan a baby shower? Come on, fess up! 😉 By the way, did Political Junkessa find you? I’m ‘mad’ with her because she left me behind when she ran off, and you’ve tried so hard to teach us to take care of each other!!! 😆 😆 Not to worry, the air is now clear. Phew!

  54. August 26, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Hey StR, Thanks for the info. So the President has the final say? I’m sure the EPA will speak up if its a bad idea.

    Its great to know I can get ALL the facts here with you smart people.

    I SO SO appreciate this place! :o)

    Sherry


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