Yep, this is the GOP’s ‘Mr Reasonable’:

36 Responses to “‘desperation’”

  1. 1 Marlz
    August 23, 2011 at 8:12 am

    We know that’s how it goes. Good morning!

    • 2 COS
      August 23, 2011 at 8:27 am

      Thanks so much for the Huntsman videos Chips. How quickly people forget. Huntsman has been flipflopping just like Mitt. Also he need to own up to his statement on the Ryan budget. While some dems are falsely claiming that PBO is cutting SS and MC, do they know Huntsman’s take on all of this?

  2. 3 Me4obama
    August 23, 2011 at 8:18 am

    Fulfilling a promise on immigration
    By Steve Benen

    Last week, the Obama administration announced a breakthrough in its enforcement of immigration policy: deportations of undocumented immigrants who pose no threat to national security or public safety have effectively been suspended. The White House can’t change the law unilaterally, but it can choose to prioritize among cases and create a more sensible and more humane immigration policy.

    We’re now seeing the benefits as the new policy is implemented.

    The call came in the morning to the lawyer representing Manuel Guerra, an illegal immigrant from Mexico living in Florida who had been caught in a tortuous and seemingly failing five-year court fight against deportation.

    With the news early Thursday that federal immigration authorities had canceled his deportation, Mr. Guerra became one of the first illegal immigrants in the country to see results from a policy the Obama administration unveiled in Washington that day. It could lead to the suspension in coming months of deportation proceedings against tens of thousands of immigrants.

    The same day, an undocumented Mexican woman in Colorado, Sujey Pando, also learned her deportation had been scrapped, because she married her lesbian partner in Iowa. Federal law does not yet recognize same-sex marriages, but as far as the Obama administration is concerned, same-sex couples who get married in states with marriage-equality laws fall under the administration’s definition of “family.”

    This is, to put it mildly, a heartening development, for which President Obama and his team deserve a lot of credit. Deportations will continue for those who commit felonies and those considered security threats, but DHS and the Justice Department will review existing cases and will “halt deportations of longtime residents with clean police records who came here illegally when they were children, or are close family of military service members, or are parents or spouses of American citizens.”

    This is not to say the administration’s breakthrough makes congressional action unnecessary. The law still needs systemic reform — law-abiding undocumented immigrants may be allowed to stay, but they’re in a status limbo — and Obama can’t change it on his own.

    But in the meantime, it appears the president made a promise to the immigrant community, and he’s keeping it. Republicans are outraged, but the White House doesn’t seem to care.


    • August 23, 2011 at 8:40 am

      Excellent Me4Obama, just posted it – thank you! 😉

    • 5 a4alice
      August 23, 2011 at 8:43 am

      Thanks for publishing that me4. Another example of PBO keeping his promise. On one hand this new policy is going to save money and time for overburdened judicial and law enforcement which will make state budgeters happy. On the other hand it will help keep loved ones together. Benen says “the law still needs systemic reform…..they’re in a status limbo….” but this at least gets the ball rolling. Like I’ve said, PBO – hardest working man in Washington.

      Have a great day everyone!


  3. 6 Linda
    August 23, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Yuk… that Alex Wagner person from PuffingtonHost is just plain awful…..I cannot watch any of those Puffingtion people . I just mute the TV when they are on…also when Michael Steele is on.

    Does his MSNBCFOX contract say he has to be on every show….?

    • 7 Bill
      August 23, 2011 at 8:44 am

      It is very dishearting to see people such as Steele and Wagner on TV giving their thoughts on anything important. There are many smart people in this country and they are not two of them.

      Willie is now on Morning Joe saying President Obama is responsible for the entire deficit incurred since the day it took office. No one is challenging him.

    August 23, 2011 at 8:30 am


  5. 9 Me4obama
    August 23, 2011 at 8:31 am

    I have made up my mind that I will NOT spend a single Twit on Michael Steele. I can’t give reasons why but I can’t bring myself to even type his name anymore.

  6. 12 ChristiMtl
    August 23, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Media Matters has a good analysis of Mark Knoller’s article about the debt.

    CBS’ Mark Knoller Whitewashes Bush From 2009 Deficit

    Knoller Blamed Obama For Every Penny Of Debt Since “The Day Mr. Obama Took Office”


    I know many follow him on Twitter, I do too, I sent him something yesterday but will do again today after reading Media Matters.

    Can someone send him the link please?

    • 13 dotster
      August 23, 2011 at 9:41 am

      Knoller’s tweets have been increasingly snarky. And isn’t it interesting that the same talking point of the day seems coordinated with the entire media and the Republican Party? See: the deficit is all Obama’s fault. That’s today’s push. Very disturbing.

  7. 14 mtmarilyn
    August 23, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Good morning Chips and TOD family. I watched Ron Raegan last night. Thought he did a great job. Huntsman isn’t going anywhere. He is to reasonable for the tea folks. He still scares me. The thought of him being in charge.

    You have been busy this morning Chips. Now I will go back and read the other threads. Happiness is being able to post from my droid on the latest thread.

  8. August 23, 2011 at 8:33 am

    I am so glad that the Mitt Romney new home issue got a lot of play in the media yesterday. It wouldn’t be so bad, but he is demolishing an existing 12 million home.


  9. 16 proud of obama
    August 23, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Morning, everyone. Huntsman is not as “reasonable” as he pretends to be. There is so much that is untrustworthy about the man. His business dealings with China which makes me believe the real reason he accepted the ambassador job was to further these dealings. His support of the Ryan budget to kill medicare. He’s rich and entitled which allowed him to drop out of high school then get into college on some special program.

    But what really gets me is, who decides to serve the president, then quit and run against their boss? This again says to me he accepted the position with the President to further his families business dealings and his own career.

    I don’t like him. I do not trust him. And I think this is what voters are picking up on and why he can’t break through.

    When he said he didn’t really have a relationship with the President knowing we all saw the note he sent Pres Obama praising his leadership, that told you all you need to know about this man.

  10. 17 nintendowii10
    August 23, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Huntsman only looks reasonable because the other clowns he is competing with are crazier than he is.

    Heck, even George W. Bush and Dick Cheney would look reasonable in comparison.

    If this were any other Republican primary, Huntsman would be considered a fringe candidate himself. He did endorse the Ryan plan and was beginning to embrace far right beliefs before being against them… he’s just as much of a flip flopping opportunist as Mitt.

    Anyone who would support Huntsman over Obama is out of their goddamned mind.

    • 18 hopefruit2
      August 23, 2011 at 9:00 am

      Hunstman doesn’t look “reasonable” to me. He looks downright shady. And I would be truly concerned about his ability to handle the rigors of the Presidency in today’s global era. He is much better having a behind-the-scenes type of job.

  11. 19 hopefruit2
    August 23, 2011 at 8:57 am

    There is something about Hunstman that is anemic – and I’m not just talking about red blood cells. Anemic in drive, integrity, emotion, intellect, and physical vigor – all of which our President is oozing. This guy is simply lacklustre in every sense of the word. No amount of MSM marketing will make him President or VP in 2012. The only way he becomes president is if the voting system is illegally rigged.

  12. 22 carolyn
    August 23, 2011 at 9:25 am

    You all have expressed my thoughts about Huntsman. Someone on another thread said he looks like a “rich dilettante who thinks it would be cool to be president.” If you look at his background, that is exactly what he is. He just has the “look” some commentators and talking heads want in their president. How shallow they are.
    I also was glad to see Mitt’s teardown and rebuild getting so much air time. How stupid is he! And his house is in La Jolla, the absolutely most expensive seaside city on the Pacific coast. I’d like to know, of all of his houses, which is actually his home? Don’t tell me the basement of his son’s house in Belmont, MA, which he tried to say on one show. He’s so all over the place he doesn’t know what he is. And,Huntsman won’t claim Utah any more, but has his headquarters in Florida. Does the average person not realize that these people have nothing in common with us and no understanding of us? The recession has helped them financially.

  13. 23 Ladyhawke
    August 23, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Melissa Harris-Perry (guest hosting for Lawrence O’Donnell) last night had an excellent segment on the unhinged and deranged GOP presidential candidates. The opening clip detailing many of the outlandish and wacky comments is a goldmine for Democratic Party campaign ads.

    Electability of the far-right


    • 24 hopefruit2
      August 23, 2011 at 9:39 am

      Thanks Ladyhawke. And here is another article from Politico which shows just how desperate this individuals are. DESPITE the slanted Gallup poll yesterday, the GOP establishment obviously doesn’t believe their own hye, and neither do we.

      HEADLINE: Conservative elites pine for 2012 hero


      • 25 StR
        August 23, 2011 at 9:54 am

        I think the only man who could fulfill that role would be Jeb Bush. Has he made any statements lately saying he’s not running? I wonder if he’s looking back to 1992 and than 2004 when the better candidates sat out not wanting to take on the incumbent, and that waiting bit them in the butt.

        Bill Clinton only got the nod from the Dems in 1992 when the bigger fish sat out happy to wait until 1996. And than Hillary passed on challenging George W. Bush in 2004 figuring she’d have a much better shot in 2008.

        Jeb would only need to look at his recent familial political history of challengers to figure now might be better than later.

  14. 27 StR
    August 23, 2011 at 9:47 am

    Huntsman seems to be getting a renewed push by the MSM – but he has no path to the nomination. He’s not winning Iowa, or S.Carolina. And Romney is putting in a ton of time, money and effort into NH, and polls much better in Nevada and is the known entity in both given his 2008 run. So basically Huntsman is running the Rudy strategy where it all comes down to Florida for him.

    Anything less than a first or strong second in NH and he’s finished. And I can’t see him winning NH or even a strong second because Perry will play well enough there that folks will not be able to throw a mercy vote his way if Romney was far, far ahead. And folks will not risk voting for Romney because if Romney lost Iowa and than NH it would really hurt his chances.

  15. 28 utaustinliberal
    August 23, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Everytime I see Ron Reagan it tickles me pink that he’s a liberal when his dad was Saint Ronnie himself; Elder Chief of the Republican party. Ron Reagan was great last night. Huntsman is just desperate. The smell of desperation pouring off him stinks. He’s just like Romney, only more lifeless. He stands for nothing and is as big a flip flopper as Romney. If I were him, I would just do a Pawlenty and save the rest of us from listening to his nonsense.

  16. 29 carolyn
    August 23, 2011 at 10:48 am

    On the other hand……he should stay in the race and divert attention and energy. He’s too blah for words, but will get his week of press time after the This Week showing. I’ve noticed each Republican idiot gets about a week of unquestioned press time. This is his time. He will become boring for the press.

  17. 30 Ladyhawke
    August 23, 2011 at 10:52 am

    John Huntsman continued hammering his GOP presidential rivals on Piers Morgan last night. Huntsman ventured into some dangerous territy that I can just imagine will make the DNC positively giddy. Huntsman would not rule out a Bachmann/Huntsman ticket. He loves this country that much. Now that’s what I call desperation.



    Asked by Morgan if he’d be willing to serve as Mitt Romney’s running mate, should Romney win the nomination, Huntsman said “There would be too many jokes about that. No, I can’t imagine it at all.”

    But he didn’t close the door to possibly serving as running mate to Bachmann, saying “if you love this country, you serve this country. Every time I’ve been asked to serve over different administrations, from Reagan to the two Bushes, to President Obama, I have the same, the same answer, and that is if you love this country, you serve her. And so, you know, if you’re in a position to better the country, to bring whatever background you have to bear, whatever experiences to use in fine-tuning our future, I’ll be the first person to sign up, absolutely.”

    But Huntsman seemed to downplay his answer, adding that “this is a hypothetical conversation. And I give you more or less a hypothetical answer.”


  18. 32 Ladyhawke
    August 23, 2011 at 11:24 am

    The DemRapidResponse Team strikes again with lightening speed. This time they are going after John Huntsman. The tag line for the ad is “Don’t take it from us – take it from one of their own”. Ouch!

    “Don’t Take It From Us”

    • 33 StR
      August 23, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      I’d just as soon they ignore Huntsman to keep his profile as close to invisible as possible. Huntsman seems to be on a “truth-telling” kick that I think could catch on and he could be the candidate that those looking to pull in Christie or Ryan are looking for and ultimately support.

      • 34 hopefruit2
        August 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm

        There is a GOP PPP poll to be released tomorrow. Rumors say that Perry is leading – by double digits. Let’s see how that “truth-telling” has worked out for Huntsman.

  19. 35 hopefruit2
    August 23, 2011 at 11:31 am


    Now the far-right believes that Jon Hunstman and President Obama are scheming to split the GOP primary votes….


  20. 36 Zekke Lydonna
    August 23, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    I hope we don’t get too caught up in the ‘reasonableness’ of Jon Huntsman. Just because he is not insane, doesn’t mean his policies are reasonable. They are not. Dig deeper.

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