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This is why I love Rev. Al, he can disagree with the President but he’s never mean, he never put him down or question his integrity.
I still can’t believe that he’s now officially the host of his own show!
Refreshing isn’t it.
Yes Indeed, 🙂
And it must be driving the Republicans crazy!
Really?
Exactly! This what a mature person, with integrity, conducts himself/ herself . It is not weakness to admit a mistake. Only petty, small minded people, refuse to admit a mistake. By the way, in general, I share many of Rev. Al’s reasons for his opposition to America becoming a policeman of the world. In the case of Libya, however, President Obama never pretended to be the policeman. Rather, he saw this as an international collective mission to prevent genocide, while at the same time giving support to the Libyan people who were fighting for freedom. After what happened in Bosnia, Rwanda, Dafur, and East Timor, the world can no longer stand by while leaders massacre their own people.
I have been boycotting MSM because I don’t want to raise my blood pressure. I think I will now start watching Rev. Al Sharpton.
I have been boycotting the MSM too. I see no reason to get angry and raise my blood pressure. Maybe once PBO and congress are all back at work, the MSM will stop attacking the President.
LMAO!! Not flaming Debz, but don’t hold your breath. The MSM will never stop attacking the PREZ.
I know they will never stop, but with the repugs back in DC, they will have some shiny objects to chase instead of non-stop complaints about a vacation. They are always at their worst in August.
1. Really enjoyed Rev. Al’s program tonight, although he’s better one-on-one than with the “teleprompter” (not to bring up that little piece of technology that everybody uses).
2. I’ll now happily spend what may be my last evening with your new masthead, Chips (I love graphics), and … sob sob … then I think I’ll live. Thanks for including us in the fun.
Man, I really would wish all these claims of victory would wait until Gaddafi is captured, killed or flees the country. There is still a lot of uncertainty with the situation, and Gaddafi is far from out of tricks. Scuds are being launched from Sirte into FF strongholds, he is said to have a ton of mustard gas that hasn’t been found yet either. Then you have the hotel situation with the 35+ international journalists being held against their will.
Gaddafi is still spouting off his propaganda over the radio, and they pulled off quite the propaganda coup when they faked the capture of the Gaddhafi sons, only to have one escape and the other laugh that he was never even captured on video.
We forget these are civilian fighters for the most part – they can over run with numbers, but can they hold their gains? Especially against a committed guerrilla campaign from hardened and well trained Gaddafi loyalists.
Understand your comments. I’m reminding myself this isn’t cut and dry … “democracy isn’t pretty” (or whatever representational government they end up having). But Gaddafi is disgraced; at the very least, Tripoli is changed forever; Libya is changed forever; the global community finally said “enough”; people around the world are finally paying attention to what occurred there for 42 years; his compound has been entered and looted; they claim some of the guards may have been paid off to let the son(s) go – that’s understandable in such a situation … etc.
There’s nothing wrong with praising the efforts of the FF – none of us can imagine what it must have taken for them to go against a dictatorship, with or without NATO’s help. I think celebrating the Libyans’ victory at each milestone is appropriate, no matter where Gaddafi turns up next, since he may do incredible harm in the future, but he’s not going to get back “his” country. Anyway, that’s my opinion as of tonight. It could change.
I totally agree with you jacuelineobooner…as Richard Wolfe said, Gaddafi will probably raise his ugly head and try to do “things”, but his time is over, he is done (we can put a fork in him) and it is now up to the Libyan people to put him and keep him in his rightful place.
The LTC purposely used the unconfirmed report of Saif being captured. The NTC head spoke about it yesterday. They said that they didn’t deny the unconfirmed reports because it was a political and strategic win as many of the top Gaddafi military surrendered when they heard these reports. So it actually helped the rebels in a BIG way. 90% of rebels for sure are all military rookies but the NTC knows what they are doing.
I agree,Revend Al is a cat fighter when on his own, and just a reader when reading off the teleprompter. I hope MSNBC does not tie his hands.
He’ll get the hang of reading the prompts, I’m sure, and become more relaxed by the day. We need to try to give him the ratings, since that’s mostly what the execs will be watching (not the optics during any given show). Hopefully, he’ll make it.
I agree with you Jacqueline. I am sure he will improve as time goes on. I am just so happy to have someone fair. I am sure that he can call PBO anytime and he will answer. I am sure he will also interview PBO on his show, which was an impossibility with that Cenk clown.
That’s another reason why I like Rev. Al, he’s not one of those so call professionals, yes he make mistakes, but I still like him. Better mistakes than out and out lies, like the other media. Who will sit on their butt and let someone come on their show and lie about the President, and they will do nothing to correct them, or they the media will be the one lying. So more power to Rev. Al. I like him and I’m going to write MSNBC boss and let them know. For all the bonehead decisions, like Morning Joe, Mark Halperin, Pat Buchanan, hiring Michael Steele, it’s good to see they do have alittle common sense to hire Rev. Al.
I love love love Rev Al. He was really great today. So glad he has his own show now. I sincerely hope MSNBC let him be; because we love him just as he is.
I totally agree, Al is just fine the way he is, I like that he is not one of those polished commendators who have no emotion and not real life experience like Al does, he has been in jail, walked the streets with protestors, championed the working class and the poor, fought for civil rights been vilified by the press and still is standing. He speaks from real life experiences not from some lame opinion acquired by reading someone elses opinion,
I just finished watching this online. I agree that Rev Al is getting better and more comfortable in this position. He is a smart man and a quick learner so with our support, he’ll do just fine.
I’m also happy with the baby steps that the PEOPLE of Libya are taking for their OWN voice of FREEDOM. A ruler doesn’t have to die to become insignificant. It’s the will of the people that will make him insignificant. If the new ruling party follows the guidance of NATO and Ambassador Rice, all will come together. It will not happen overnight, but we and they should celebrate the baby steps toward democracy.
We don’t have TV so never watch these shows and I rarely watch the clips online, although curious about Sharpton’s performance I watched this one. He did a nice job overall and yes, it’s amazing to see someone saying the most basic common sense he said in that clip, which demonstrates just how completely ridiculous and MegaRich-biased our MegaMedia, and therefore public discourse is on a daily basis, and has been for decades now.
Although….what’s with that dipshit Richard Wolffe (in sheep’s clothing) ripping on and mocking President Jimmy Carter, yet praising Ronnie Raygun and King Bush the 1st?!?! Saint Raygun f-ing bumbled a unilateral air raid on Libya. Gadaffi then does the Lockerbie bombing shortly after in retaliation, and then becomes a multi-billionaire financing all sorts of horrific things FOR DECADES. How is Raygun presented as some responsible leader despite MASSIVE failures, yet President Carter, who with the Camp David Accords and other things, did more to help Middle East peace than anyone in modern history before President Barack Hussein Obama, get used as a joke line by Richard Wolffe?!?
Rev. Sharpton: You gotta call these people on their propaganda! Although, it is important to have you in that seat so play the game just enough before they’ll fire you (which they WILL DO at the first opportunity, but every week you’re there, the better…)
And how do they get through a whole segment on this topic and not even mention President Barack Hussein Obama’s Cairo speech?!? It is clearly a call-to-action for everything that has happened since Egypt and the ouster of Mubarak (remember him? He was the host of the Cairo speech, ferchrissakes!). Wolffe goes on his little diatribe about this “being about the Libyan people…” blah blah blah. Well you think that happens by accident, you propagandist?!? This is all a direct result of President Barack Hussein Obama telling the average person in the Middle East, “Go for it y’all, we got your backs.” Yet, no mention whatsoever…just compliments for Raygun and Bush the 1st. Jeezus H. Kee-rice-st on a corndog stick at the Iowa State Fair when Republicans are visiting….
Cairo Speech here…read in context of all that’s happened since that speech 2 years ago…truly one of the great speeches of world history, judging by the results from it:
He didn’t call it the “New Beginning” speech for nothing. And remember everyone…ignore propagandist Richard Wolffe from now on. Democrats in the House and Senate 2012!
Understand your overarching frustration … but Richard Wolfe is really quite pro-Obama.
Well, as I said, I don’t really watch or read the MegaMedia anymore, so perhaps you are correct. I was basing my opinion upon that clip and some past memories, and in the above clip Wolffe does the typical Repub line, “President Carter is a joke – St. Ronnie Raygun and anyone named Bush is a hero,” despite reality being the exact opposite. That is always a clear “tell” to me.
And if Wolffe was indeed “pro-Obama,” why have I not seen him or anyone in the MegaMedia for that matter, mention his Cairo speech over the last few days or months? It’s such a direct correlation to that speech and what’s happening in the Middle East, that it almost must be intentional to ignore it. Instead, we have large swaths of the American public who barely remember the bin Laden raid (or some weird sort of deflection of success from that away from President Obama), and still consider President Barack Hussein Obama “weak” despite perhaps the most some of the greatest accomplishments since WWII. I’d suggest having many grains of salt handy for anything this dude says in the future.
Why have we not heard it? Because, alas, their brains don’t go that deep. They say what they think today, about events of today, and don’t see any correlation with anything that has already gone by.
My friend occasionally quotes some movie line, which fits stuff like this, and I’ll paraphrase it here … I’ve had other occasions to use it, obviously:
“They hate us because they think we think they’re stupid. And we hate them because they’re stupid.”
Goodnight to ya!
Excellent BONKERS thanks.
Fearing pushback on issues like ending Medicare and corporate tax dodging, Chabot took an extraordinary step in order to prevent a possible “Youtube moment”: he banned constituents from filming the town hall. Outside the town hall were multiple signs reading, “For Security Purposes, Cameras Are NOT Permitted.” In fact, on at least two separate occasions, middle-aged constituents who tried to record the public event had their cameras confiscated and were asked to leave. Watch it:
He didn’t want anything to go on YouTube, eh? Love these!
He’s a coward before his constituents, but he still invited the media – with cameras – in … huh?
http://www.carolinatalknetwork.com/2011/08/23/rep-chabot-bans-cameras-at-town-hall-as-constituents-chant-%E2%80%98where-are-the-jobs%E2%80%99/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rep-chabot-bans-cameras-at-town-hall-as-constituents-chant-%25e2%2580%2598where-are-the-jobs%25e2%2580%2599
sorry – I should have shortened that url 😦
LOL…too late for that hehehe…Jacqueline:-)
Thank you bonkers for reminding me of some things I’d forgotten, and otherts I did not even know. Rev Al is sharp but he missed some things with this, probably because he was’nt talking to repug or a teabagger. I know they alwasys sell Prez Carter as having been weak or inaffective and the hostage rescue was boggled. I do remember reading sometime in 2008 though that Prez St Regan had something to do with that though as a way into the WH he slowed negotiations. If you think about it we’ve ALWAYS had a crappy media which just seems to get worse by the minute.
I take heart that history will be very objective and appreciative of PBO and Biden. Did they even cover his trip to China? These times seem so precarius(?) and scary and frustrating. But I try to cherish them and not get ahead of time. I just want the house back and Speaker Nancy, and for the Senate to ours and for them to get their act together and stop the filibuster. There is soooooo much work to do.
Through back door negotiations they had the hostages held until after the elections, taking away from Carter what should have been his accompolishment. Absolutely we must get President Obama/VP Biden reelected with a Congress that is serious about governing. Nancy Pelosi will crack the whip…..hard to deny the accompolishments of the 111th Congress…people need to have that spelled out in black and white. And then compare that to lack of record of the 112th…….what a frickin waste of our tax payer dollars.
Just saw this from PBO’s Facebook page (I did not realize he spoke at the groundbreaking):
Quote of the day: “By dint of vision, and determination, and most of all faith in the redeeming power of love, he endured the humiliation of arrest, the loneliness of a prison cell, the constant threats to his life, until he finally inspired a nation to transform itself, and begin to live up to the meaning of its creed.”—Then-Senator Obama at the groundbreaking of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial in 2006. The memorial will be formally dedicated this Sunday.
Found the speech:
http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/ObamaMLK.htm
An Obama supporter strikes back. Points in defense of the President.
http://blog.buzzflash.com/print/12966
When PBO asked people to talk to their Representative, it seem that folks are starting to wake and demanding jobs…and town hall meetings…
here’s another one, I love it!!!!!
In Duluth, MN protestors gather to ask Rep. Chip Cravaack to hold a Town Hall in Duluth, the biggest city in his district. This is him finally agreeing to a meeting at the airport tomorrow, Aug 24 at 4PM.
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Thanks Kasai, me too. Folks are listening to the President.
At the airport? That choice of venue will still, in my opinion, make it difficult for some people to attend (parking, area to protest, etc.) Or maybe that’s just me.
Thanks for the vid Kasai – I had heard this is happening today on MPR driving home last night. This guy cravaack is sending his family out east to live while he tries to maintain his job in minnesota! I am very hopeful the good peeps of Northern MN will oust him.
Hey Doris…I hope that when they get back to work…We can jam the phone lines..prior to PBO’s job speech…So that they know we mean business…If they say NO to any job bills PBO proposes….
WE On THE MOVE…….Doris….:-)
Yes, I feel the momentum, can you? The President’s looks strong and focused even on his vacation. So the naysayers can’t say anything about that. He’s in touch, lol. The man can multi-task like no other. I have full confidence in him and until I see him flinch, I’m just fine. We couldn’t be in better hands. Can’t wait to see what he hits them with in his jobs bill. 😀
There’s no one like PBO..plain and simple, I believe that’s one reason that Republicans are intimidated by his brilliance and reason they keep saying NO to anything he proposes, because in their right mind they know it will work….When you think about it…Everything he did in terms to foreign policy worked quite well…From The Somali Pirates….OBL..Al Queda and now Libya. He did it because, he didn’t have Congress to interfere. I wish they just let him lead on his domestic policies…We would be so far ahead by now.
So true, if they would just get out of his way, our dreams really would come true.
Great read 🙂
“A new era in U.S. foreign policy”
By Fareed Zakaria, CNN
Back in March, many neoconservatives in Washington were extremely dismissive of the way President Obama was handling the intervention in Libya. They argued that he was doing too little and acting too late – that his approach was too multilateral and lacked cohesiveness. They continuously criticized President Obama for, in the words of an anonymous White House advisor, “leading from behind.”
But now that these critics are confronted with the success of the Libya operation, they are changing their tune and claiming paternity of the operation. They are further arguing that if their advice had been heeded, the intervention in Libya would have been swifter and even more successful. But the Libya intervention is so significant precisely because it did not follow the traditional pattern of U.S.-led interventions. Indeed, it launched a new era in U.S. foreign policy.
here’s more
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/23/a-new-era-in-u-s-foreign-policy/
Wow, just wow. A paradiagm shift, that’s what this is and Fareed said it best. My goodness. No wonder the Republicans are mad. This is truly a new day under Barack Obama and I know they see it and know it. Take that John McCain and Lindsey Graham.
Fareed is the best. We need more people like him in the media. Very intelligent and talks to everyone as adults. He never sounds like he is at a cocktail party, gossiping.
I think a lot of Americans like the new approach because it’s one they’ve never been exposed to, and this has GOT to disturb the republicans whose usual approach is to go into any situation with guns blazing. Americans have never been exposed to smart diplomacy, but I think they could get used to it. PBO not only made the right decision on Libya, but he made the fiscally responsible decision since the Libyan intervention cost only a small fraction of what the interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan has/is cost(ing) us.
Spot on.
Agreed. We have all seen the aftermath of W’s “bring ’em on” bluster. Everyone is war weary. It has been a very long time since most Americans have seen smart diplomacy.
And, therein lies the rub for the repugs, i.e. no military contracts in it for them and their contractors with the military approach PBO is employing.
Wasn’t Egypt even an earlier example of this foreign policy? Wisconsin protests? Yemen? Syria? Recent Isreal uprising? The consistent theme being…”If y’all want to go for it, we got your back.” I think we’re just seeing the beginning of the dominoes falling, and if we get back the House and strengthen the Senate with better Democrats, we’re gonna be off the charts! We’re all going to have to work HARD to make sure this happens, so let’s spend less time online and get out there and make this happen!
Yes.
That’s exactly what I said too Doris…(WOW) The fact that no Republicans are giving him credit. The American people will soon realize, the Republican party is losing credibility with anything they say or propose.
Well, I better turn in…long day tomorrow
Sweet Dreams Doris, Have a restful Night:-)
You to honey, I’m turning in too.
VP Biden live speaking to US service over on http://www.whitehouse.gov
This video SO represents what I am thinking over and over again, namely that this president does not get the credit he friggin´ deserves.
Good Morning Chipsticks,
You surprised me this morning with the new banner. Looks Good. Going to miss the red though. 🙂
Chips, I love the new header, especially the silhouette
I see the header is back to normal and normal is really wonderful normal, but that silhouette was fabulous with a quiet powerful feel to it. 🙂 I’d make a great t-shirt.
THE PRESIDENT’S FOREIGN POLICY IS ‘HUMANITARIAN JUSTICE AND COMPASSION’…AND WITH THAT…YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG!
AMEN and AMEN, sista! Yes, the Republicans know this. Will they admit it to themselves, much less others??!! No, NEVER! Huge case of denial.
Good morning and good day to all. I’ll be off in couple hours for my usual Wednesday trip to see my mom. Prayers for safe travels appreciated.
good morning TOD family
may GOD continue to bless;guide and protect the President
prayers are with you TNM as you head towards your mom
p.s Chip can I say that I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE the black background 😀
Yesterday….
Sorry guys for putting this in the wrong post.
oh yes you will!
Indiana GOPer: ‘Self-Destruction’ Of Soliciting Young Man On Craigslist Won’t Make Me Resign
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/indiana_goper_self-destruction_of_soliticiting_man.php?ref=fpb
Texans Stage Mock Funeral To Mourn The ‘Death Of Good Jobs’ In GOP Congressman’s District
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/23/302188/mock-jobs-funeral/
Revealed: Former Goldman Sachs VP Turned Issa Staffer Supervised Scheduling Of Elizabeth Warren Incident
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/23/301772/peter-haller-goldman-sachs-patrick-mchenry/
VIDEO: John McCain Debunks Right-Wing’s ‘Sharia In Libya’ Claim 😯
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/23/302521/video-john-mccain-debunks-right-wings-sharia-in-libya-claim/
Michele Bachmann To Release Health Reform Plan, Will Likely Mimic RyanCare 🙄
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/08/23/302648/michele-bachmann-to-release-health-reform-plan-will-likely-mimic-paul-ryan/
Romney Adviser Advocating For Controversial Iranian Terrorist Group
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/23/302480/romney-adviser-mek/
Glenn Beck Is Asking Journalists Not To Interview Visitors Attending His Jerusalem Rally
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/23/302098/media-staffer-says-glenn-beck-has-asked-that-journalists-not-bother-tourists-attending-his-jerusalem-rally/
Bachmann Staffer Linked To Uganda’s ‘Kill Gays’ Bill Deletes Online Info
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/23/302451/bachmann-staffer-linked-to-ugandas-kill-gays-bill-deletes-online-info/
Perry campaign distances him from book’s call for repeal of 16th Amendment
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/perry-campaign-distances-him-from-books-call-for-repeal-of-16th-amendment/2011/03/03/gIQA9gkFZJ_blog.html
pigs will fly 😯
Rep. Chabot Breaks With GOP Presidential Candidates, Says Obama ‘Deserves Some Credit’ On Libya
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/08/23/302196/rep-steve-chabot-credit-obama-libya/
GOP Judiciary Committee Chairman Admits He’s Using Anti-Immigrant Hearings To ‘Embarrass The President’
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/08/23/301569/gop-judiciary-committee-chairman-admits-hes-using-anti-immigrant-hearings-to-embarrass-the-president/
Low Wages And No Health Insurance In Texas
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/08/23/301798/low-wages-and-no-health-insurance-in-texas/
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/22/paul-ryan-tax-loopholes-donors_n_931712.html
At Town Hall, GOP Rep. Hultgren Can’t Explain How Bush Tax Cuts Created Jobs
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/23/301385/town-hall-hultgren-bush-tax-cuts/
Innocent Mistake # 324:Reagan opposed making MLK Day a national holiday 😯 😯
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/10/innocent-mistakes/
Perry’s favored citizenship path already exists 🙄 😆
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/perrys-favored-citizenship-path-already-exists#.TlK8k0PVmkU.twitter
wow. go fred go. i’ll have to catch up on my morning break.