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libya

President Obama (March 2011): “…. With the time and space that we have provided for the Libyan people, they will be able to determine their own destiny, and that is how it should be.”

The head of Libya’s National Transitional Council tells Al Jazeera that Gaddafi’s son Saif al-Islam has been captured – live updates at The Guardian site here

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Live coverage at Sky News (UK) here and Al Jazeera (here)

(Apologies for the Murdoch/Sky link, but it’s one of the few channels I can find covering this live)

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President Obama (March 2011): “…. As the bulk of our military effort ratchets down, what we can do and will do is support the aspirations of the Libyan people. We have intervened to stop a massacre, and we will work with our allies and partners as they’re in the lead to maintain the safety of civilians. We will deny the regime arms, cut off its supply of cash, assist the opposition and work with other nations to hasten the day when Gadhafi leaves power. It may not happen overnight, as a badly weakened Gadhafi tries desperately to hang on to power.

But it should be clear to those around Gadhafi and to every Libyan, that history is not on Gadhafi’s side. With the time and space that we have provided for the Libyan people, they will be able to determine their own destiny, and that is how it should be.”

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As drdaddy1970 mentioned in the comments, John McCain is our current expert on Libya!

CBS: Sen. John McCain said Sunday he thought Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi’s rule in Libya was “nearing the end” and that it would be a “matter of hours” before his ouster. McCain, speaking on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” said that “we will be rid of a guy who has practiced the worst kind of brutalities.”

What changed in two years, John?

Politics Daily (August 2009): Sen. John McCain, visiting Libya this past week, praised Muammar Gaddafi for his peacemaking efforts in Africa. In addition, McCain called for the U.S. Congress to expand ties with Gaddafi’s government, according to Libya’s state news agency. McCain had a face-to-face meeting with Gaddafi, which he detailed on his Twitter page with the following message:

“Late evening with Col. Qadhafi at his “ranch” in Libya – interesting meeting with an interesting man.”

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183 Responses to “libya”


  1. 1 jacquelineoboomer
    August 21, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I pray that Gaddafi’s reign is history soon.

  2. 3 roh108
    August 21, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    It is only a matter of time!!

  3. August 21, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    Amazing and exciting. What a year this has been in the Arab world and fur us watching them.

  4. August 21, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Very happy for Libya. No people should live under such tyranny.

  5. 8 utaustinliberal
    August 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    Wow. This is democracy in action. This is real people demanding and fighting for freedom from a tyrant. And to think when I flipped to CNN, they were covering Casey Anthony and her wrecked car. Thank goodness for twitter, Al Jazeera English, Al Jazeera Live and other great sources. If it was bash and blame President Obama, they’d be covering that 24/7 on all channels. #EpicMediaFail.

  6. 9 Debz
    August 21, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    This is so exciting, hope lives!!

  7. 11 MTmarilyn
    August 21, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    I’ll listen to it later the live streaming from Tripoli is just amazing. The Freedom Fighters are winning. The guy that is talking is saying of course it won’t be smooth but they do have plans for the future. It won’t be total chaos.

  8. August 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Today is the day for Libya!

  9. 13 Ladyhawke
    August 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Seeing the updates on Libya is just remarkable and it reminded me of the youtube video called “Spring Movements” that was released back in March during the turmoil in Egypt. I could not get enough of the video because it was so incredibly moving. It will give you chills. It is downright hypnotic and the ending will rip your heart out.

    SPRING MOVEMENTS

    Inspired by the uprisings occurring in the Middle East and North Africa, this film is an ode to movements striving to reclaim their dignity and sovereignty from their keepers.

  10. 15 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    bloody hell what a day for my Libyan brothers and sisters.So freaking happy for you.Congratulations 😀 😀 😀 😀

    I hope the President comes out very soon and says something to get on top of things before the Bush apologists and Denis Kucinich come on tv and spew lies;and take ownership of this

  11. August 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Went to the Guardian UK site…they posted a quote from McCain – blah blah blah unstability….really!?!? He’s the Middle East expert??!?! Pathetic!

    • August 21, 2011 at 5:55 pm

      Priceless!!

      Politics Daily (August 2009): Sen. John McCain, visiting Libya this past week, praised Muammar Gaddafi for his peacemaking efforts in Africa. In addition, McCain called for the U.S. Congress to expand ties with Gaddafi’s government, according to Libya’s state news agency. McCain had a face-to-face meeting with Gaddafi, which he detailed on his Twitter page with the following message:

      “Late evening with Col. Qadhafi at his “ranch” in Libya – interesting meeting with an interesting man.”

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      18 months later McCain was mentioning Gaddafi and Hitler in the same sentence (here)

      http://theobamadiary.com/2011/04/23/%E2%80%98mccain-returns-to-libya-under-very-different-circumstances%E2%80%99/

  12. 18 overseasgranny
    August 21, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    I must confess I had been very worried about how the freedom fighters were going to take Tripoli. The last thing I would have expected was what is actually happening tonight. It is like a miracle.
    Even though Sky is a Murdoch station, they are not at all like Fox, in fact, almost the opposite. They are doing the excellent reporting on the Murdoch hacking affair as well.

    • 19 MTmarilyn
      August 21, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      I also was concerned but after listening to the gentleman that was interviewed on Sky he said they do have a plan and it won’t be chaos. I really do believe that is one place where Obama would be working with them in some capacity. To help them plan for the future.

      • 20 criquet
        August 21, 2011 at 7:13 pm

        I believe that the Obama Administration recognised the rebel “Gov’t” some months ago and was providing some financial assistance in this regard.

  13. 21 utaustinliberal
    August 21, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Saif Al-Islam Gaddafi, Mohammed Gaddafi and another one of Gaddafi’s sons have been captured. The rebels are fighting Gaddafi forces at Green Square. Wow. Just Wow.

  14. 22 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    😀 😀 😀

    ninenorthlp Larry Pareigis
    Libyans on Twitter are thanking @BarackObama for standing with them RT @Reuters: Al Jazeera says brigade in (cont) tl.gd/ci2tas
    1 hour ago

  15. 24 utaustinliberal
    August 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Gaddafi’s Presidential Guards have stepped down and handed power to the rebels.

    • 25 Gc
      August 21, 2011 at 6:10 pm

      Egypt Redux in the chills I am experiencing. I may may be a dreamer, but somehow I feel BHO in the WH partially inspired these movements, gave them credibility, gave the Rebels faith and confidence.

      What he has accomplished in one term alone….there MUST be a second!

      • 26 sam uk obama supporter
        August 21, 2011 at 7:37 pm

        I agree with you Gc, there MUST be a second term for this incredible leader. I don’t doubt that PBO inspired these movements.

      • 27 conlakappa
        August 21, 2011 at 7:47 pm

        And for all of those so cynical about him being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, pfffft! The committee could see what his vision was. Pity you all couldn’t.

  16. 28 utaustinliberal
    August 21, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    Watching this on Al Jazeera live is AMAZING! Peoplein Freedom Square are jubilating. Wow. It’s a moment in history.

  17. August 21, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Ghaddafi’s presidential guard has SURRENDERED.

    People DETEST LIES from their government and from their media!!

  18. 32 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    breaking news:Gadhafi apparently in Algeria 😯

  19. 33 ChristiMtl
    August 21, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    This is unbelievable!

  20. 34 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    the President is being brief as we speak per CNN

    Gadhafi sounds desperate.LOVES IT 😆

  21. 35 utaustinliberal
    August 21, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    They played several tapes of Gaddafi speaking to his people. He keeps releasing tape after tape. It just shows signs of his desperation and despair. He says that Tripoli was a safe, happy place and why are his people joining hands with the rebels to destroy Tripoli? This dude’s a moronic joker. He then called on people from various cities in Libya to come to Tripoli and defend him. He’s so clueless.

  22. 36 NMBLUSKY
    August 21, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    So, Obama was able to depose a dictator without wasting $1 trillion or lying about WMDs? That’s smart diplomacy.

    • 38 ChristiMtl
      August 21, 2011 at 6:22 pm

      YES!! Imagine that? What a difference,.

    • 39 ChristiMtl
      August 21, 2011 at 6:22 pm

      Can someone tweet that comment? It’s perfect.

    • 40 overseasgranny
      August 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm

      His thinking is brilliant. His strategy will work on Syria and Yemen as well.

    • August 21, 2011 at 6:33 pm

      “Soft/smart power” strategy, anyone? 😉 😆

      YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!
      YES.WE.CAN, Again…Obama/Biden 2012!

    • 42 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm

      Well hopefully it doesn’t go unnoticed by the American people. Of course there are certain factions that will try to spin this impending victory as something else and not a victory for the UN and President Obama. 🙄

      • 43 conlakappa
        August 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm

        Probably. Considering that Rs were talking out both sides of their mouths about what the President should do/was doing in Libya, it’s going to be amusingly challenging for them to spin this effectively. I don’t doubt they’ll succeed but gyrations and back bends will likely be involved!

    • 44 Olivia
      August 21, 2011 at 10:16 pm

      And, most importantly, without losing one American soldier’s life in Libya…

  23. 45 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Mr Gadhafi do Libya;the Middle East;the World and President Obama a huge favor;do a Palin on us and QUIT!

  24. 46 dotster
    August 21, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Very moving interview on CNN—–with the 19 yr. old girl who lives in Tripoli, thrilled to be hearing anti-Gaddafi slogans being shouted in the streets below her—for the first time ever, saying they have been living in hell for the past 40 years, this has been their dream, to be rid of this dictator, to be able to speak and criticize freely, to be able to share her views on the phone without fear that someone would take her away, that she expects they will all be celebrating in Freedom Square soon.

  25. 47 overseasgranny
    August 21, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Now Gaddafi’s eldest son has surrendered. It’s over.

  26. August 21, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    GODSDAMMIT! Why doesn’t my Directv have AL FRAKKIN JAZEERA?????

    • 49 Fred
      August 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm

      neither does my RCN so I feel your pain Tally 😆

      • 50 utaustinliberal
        August 21, 2011 at 6:31 pm

        My cable doesn’t have Al Jazeera also. I think it’s a disgrace that all news channels aren’t covering this. CNN is covering it, after reporting ad nauseam about Casey Anthony’s car. Even Fox News is covering it. But MSNBC?…….crickets. If this was during the time of GWB, they’d all be covering it. They just don’t want Americans to know that the actions President Obama took, were 100% right. Our media is a DISGRACE.

    • 56 conlakappa
      August 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm

      CSPAN is showing footage from Al Jazeera right now, including its reporters doing the talking…

  27. 57 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    wow wow wow 😯

    Richard Perle: Libya lobbyist
    Prominent neoconservative met with Muammar Qadhafi as recently as 2006 as part of a job to burnish Libya’s image
    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/22/richard_perle_libya

  28. 60 ChristiMtl
    August 21, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    I just saw a funny tweet:

    Breaking: Jane Hamsher and Dan Choi handcuff themselves to Gaddafi to save him from Obama Admin.

  29. 64 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    AP The Associated Press
    BREAKING: Libyan rebel leader says top military unit in charge of protecting Gadhafi has surrendered. -EF #libya -EF
    11 minutes ago:lol

  30. 65 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    AP The Associated Press
    White House: U.S. to remain in close contact with allies and Libyan rebel leaders, Obama briefed: apne.ws/jUq17x -EF #libya
    3 hours ago

  31. 66 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    AP The Associated Press
    Rebels: Commander of unit protecting Gadhafi joins revolution, orders his soldiers to “drop their weapons.” apne.ws/rdMwlb -EF
    1 minute ago

  32. 67 Bobfr
    August 21, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    GH on Don’t call us rebels 25 minutes ago

    cornishmaiden and all others
    enyoy the viktory,there is a lot of work to be done in this moment .
    we have still cowards in libya we have to handle in the next days .
    but a big step is done

    GH on Don’t call us rebels 38 minutes ago

    just coming back for short time.
    becouse their are other places in libya who need attention as well.
    i think tripoli will be over in most points monday morning
    a hospital ship is on the way to tripoli

    http://blogs.aljazeera.net/africa/2011/07/08/dont-call-us-rebels-0

    Just remember, over the past few days, you have seen information posted here and at TPV that was not even hinted at by the newstainers and their corporate media pimpmasters …. We must continue to become our own enlightened, analytic, deeply sourced media.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  33. 70 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    France24 has good coverage

  34. August 21, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    I LOVE THIS MAN!!!!

  35. 73 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    breaking news: Rebels Claim Three Qaddafi Sons Now In Their Custody

  36. 76 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    it will either Angola or South Africa

  37. August 21, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Lets see who the GOP gives credit to. We all know it won’t be Obama.

    • 79 Olivia
      August 21, 2011 at 10:21 pm

      “It was Bush policies that set the stage for this to happen…” Comemierdas… (Spanish for Shit Eaters)

  38. 80 MTmarilyn
    August 21, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    I really wonder if he can get out of the country. I think he will be captured.

  39. 82 DTTM
    August 21, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Saw a huge sign from Bengahzi; it’s been there all day. You can see it on Al J; it says, “FANTASTIC!” with a picture of Sarcozy, Merkel, Cameron, and…..PBO! Hey, Greenwald, rabid Hamster, and the man without a district, Dennis K….sorry, but this news is Fantastic!

    Why? For starters, the crazy Colonel blew up 200 hundred Americans over Scotland, December, 1988. RIP.

  40. 87 halo
    August 21, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Thank you, President Obama for your leadership!!

  41. 88 MTmarilyn
    August 21, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Those on TV just said the FF council will hold a Press Conference at 2am Tripoli time. Not sure what time that is for us.

  42. 94 Kasai
    August 21, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Transcript of President Obama’s speech on Libya March 28, 2011. (AP

    Born, as we are, out of a revolution by those who longed to be free, we welcome the fact that history is on the move in the Middle East and North Africa, and that young people are leading the way. Because wherever people long to be free, they will find a friend in the United States. Ultimately, it is that faith – those ideals – that are the true measure of American leadership.

    My fellow Americans, I know that at a time of upheaval overseas – when the news is filled with conflict and change – it can be tempting to turn away from the world. And as I have said before, our strength abroad is anchored in our strength at home. That must always be our North Star – the ability of our people to reach their potential, to make wise choices with our resources, to enlarge the prosperity that serves as a wellspring of our power, and to live the values that we hold so dear.

    Thank you Mr. President…..

  43. 95 Ladyhawke
    August 21, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    As others have commented, if this were happening under the Bush administration there would be 24X7 coverage. I guess we can expect some revisionist history from the Republican Party as they will undoubtedly try to take credit even though they criticized every decision President Obama made. The Reid Report has a very revealing comment from a Fox analyst. Ya think?? PBO smart diplomacy just makes sense.

    **UPDATE: Rebels say they control most of Tripoli, two sons, possibly Gaddafi himself detained

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    Even Fox News analysts concluded that this could vindicate President Obama’s strategy of letting the Libyans fight and win their own liberty, with NATO as their back-up. Pretty amazing turn of events this Sunday.

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    http://blog.reidreport.com/2011/08/tripoli-next-two-gaddafi-sons-captured-rebels-press-to-the-finish/#more-26256

  44. August 21, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Twitter is a beautiful thing this evening. The president is getting his props, and the media and GOP is getting a big STFU.

  45. 105 criquet
    August 21, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Pres Obama, if this is leading from behind I’m all for it.

    If most Americans think about his approach and that of GWB, they’d be for it too.

    • August 21, 2011 at 9:33 pm

      ‘Pres Obama, if this is leading from behind I’m all for it.’

      X 100
      Continue your excellent, and unprecedented American, leadership, Sir! We truly love your vision for America and the world, as well as the way in which you are encouraging it along quietly, calmly and irrevocably. OBAMA-BIDEN 2012!

  46. August 21, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    It’s amazing to watch a group of people celebrate over a reason such as this! The live crowd shots are truly amazing.

  47. 108 Ladyhawke
    August 21, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    OBAMA’S LIBYAN STRATEGY IS WISER THAN HIS CRITICS CLAIM

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    In a greater sense, one can see that today’s rebellion is very much in the line of earlier historical revolts.

    President Obama’s part in all of this, however, is far from that of any inspirer of revolution. Rather, he has played the role of wise brother trying to keep his family from going too far.

    He is very much on the side of the protesters, but he has two wars already (Iraq, Afghanistan), and more on the waiting list (Yemen, Somalia, Jordan, and maybe others). The American public is sick of the whole business. Yet he wants to help the Libyans.

    So he has devised a pattern of action much like Gen. Wesley Clark’s for Kosovo in 1997: We would be clear about our sympathies, but would only take indirect part. We would use our bombers, supply the rebel soldiers — and above all, give the French the leadership role.

    Indeed, why not? The French love it — and we don’t want it.

    So that is where we are now, and it ain’t bad. For those who don’t like Barack Obama’s terms, I suggest you put forward something wiser.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/obamas-libyan-strategy-wiser-critics-claim-223205266.html

  48. 109 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Libyan Rebels apparently enters Tripoli 😯 😀 😀

  49. August 21, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    GREAT tweet:

    @hisham_melhem Hisham Melhem
    The long Libyan goodbye. Qaddaffi came 2 power when Nixon was in WH, survived Ford,Carter, Reagan, Bush 41,Clinton,Bush 43, but not Obama,

  50. 117 overseasgranny
    August 21, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Now PBO can tweet on Libya “We did it my way!” On that happy note I’m heading off to bed, although I bet I will be up about every 2 hours to get an update.

  51. 119 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    a teahaddist on twitter mad as hell at the President “still” vacationing 🙄 😆

    unlike W; the President is getting briefed and is in constant contact with Paris;London etc but nice try tho 🙄

  52. 124 JoJothecat
    August 21, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    And not ONE american troop had to go in there. This is Libyian peoples victory with the help of the UN, France, and arab support.

  53. 125 conlakappa
    August 21, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    You gotta love The Mack Daddy’s use of “we will.” Oh, Daddy Mack? Who is the we here? Your parallel presidency? CBS was just happy to have a reason to have the foreign policy expert [*cough*] on.

  54. 126 Ladyhawke
    August 21, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    22 Aug. 2011

    Statement by the NATO Secretary General on the situation in Libya

    The Qadhafi regime is clearly crumbling. The sooner Qadhafi realises that he cannot win the battle against his own people, the better — so that the Libyan people can be spared further bloodshed and suffering.

    ==================================================

    The Libyan people have suffered tremendously under Qadhafi’s rule for over four decades. Now they have a chance for a new beginning. Now is the time for all threats against civilians to stop, as the United Nations Security Council demanded. Now is the time to create a new Libya – a state based on freedom, not fear; democracy, not dictatorship; the will of the many, not the whims of a few.

    That transition must come peacefully. It must come now. And it must be led and defined by the Libyan people.

    NATO is ready to work with the Libyan people and with the Transitional National Council, which holds a great responsibility. They must make sure that the transition is smooth and inclusive, that the country stays united, and that the future is founded on reconciliation and respect for human rights.

    Qadhafi’s remaining allies and forces also have a great responsibility. It is time to end their careers of violence. The world is watching them. This is their opportunity to side with the Libyan people and choose the right side of history.

    We will continue to monitor military units and key facilities, as we have since March, and when we see any threatening moves towards the Libyan people, we will act in accordance with our UN mandate.

    Our goal throughout this conflict has been to protect the people of Libya, and that is what we are doing.

    Because the future of Libya belongs to the Libyan people. And it is for the international community to assist them, with the United Nations and the Contact Group playing a leading role. NATO wants the Libyan people to be able to decide their future in freedom and in peace. Today, they can start building that future.

    http://www.nato.int/cps/en/SID-D1F4FF94-6B75BFB2/natolive/news_77345.htm

  55. 127 hopefruit2
    August 21, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    There are certain “signs” that something is about to happen with regard to foreign policy

    1. Don Lemon of CNN interviews someone who bashed Obama (and Lemon does a BAD job).
    2. President Obama goes golfing.

    Both of these events occurred the weekend Bin Ladin was taken out. Both of these events occurred this weekend.

  56. 131 Tien Le
    August 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Favorite tweet I’ve read today: Obama’s plan to overthrow Gaddafi takes 5 months and 0 American lives. Bushs plan for Saddam takes 10 yrs & 4,430 American lives

    • 132 utaustinliberal
      August 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      Oh… that’s a good tweet. I’ve got to go tweet that, because President Obama deserves all the credit he’s getting and no one in the media is giving him his due credit. It’s the OBL takedown all over again; with Bush folks taking credit.

      • 133 conlakappa
        August 21, 2011 at 8:21 pm

        No doubt, we’ll hear it was a brilliant continuation of the foreign policy that preceded it… Condi hasn’t been in front of the camera in a while, has she?

    • August 21, 2011 at 7:51 pm

      Absolutely brilliant, thank you Tien Le!

      Loved his other tweets too:

      Mubarak: ousted- Gaddafi: ousted-Bin Laden: Dead In Obamas first term. Can’t wait 4 foreign policy debates next yr btwn Obama & GOP nominee.

      While Obama has been busy dismantling Al-Qaida, killing Bin Laden & ousting Mubarak & Gaddafi, Dick Cheney has been awfully quiet. #tcot

      Obama: spreading democracy throughout the world 1 country @ a time. FOX News: spreading propaganda 1 time slot @ a time. #tcot #GOP #Gaddafi

      Show him some love! http://twitter.com/#!/DirkZ1

    • 137 Fred
      August 21, 2011 at 7:55 pm

      this is beyond brilliant 😀

  57. 138 Ladyhawke
    August 21, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Here’s a brilliant article from PoliticusUSA back on March 28, 2011

    While Addressing Libya Obama Kicks Bush’s Cowboy Diplomacy To The Curb

    Tonight, President Obama not only addressed the US role in Libya tonight but he redefined US foreign policy, and kicked George Bush’s cowboy diplomacy out the door. Obama said, “In such cases, we should not be afraid to act – but the burden of action should not be America’s alone.”
    .
    .
    Obama said, “To summarize, then: in just one month, the United States has worked with our international partners to mobilize a broad coalition, secure an international mandate to protect civilians, stop an advancing army, prevent a massacre, and establish a No Fly Zone with our allies and partners. To lend some perspective on how rapidly this military and diplomatic response came together, when people were being brutalized in Bosnia in the 1990s, it took the international community more than a year to intervene with air power to protect civilians.”
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    The President openly rejected the go it alone mentality of Bush and crew, “In such cases, we should not be afraid to act – but the burden of action should not be America’s alone. As we have in Libya, our task is instead to mobilize the international community for collective action. Because contrary to the claims of some, American leadership is not simply a matter of going it alone and bearing all of the burden ourselves. Real leadership creates the conditions and coalitions for others to step up as well; to work with allies and partners so that they bear their share of the burden and pay their share of the costs; and to see that the principles of justice and human dignity are upheld by all.”
    .
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    This speech could have been titled Obama Dismantles the Bush Doctrine, because his entire reasoning was a total rejection of the principles and rhetoric that Bush used to justify his invasion of Iraq. This was a policy defining speech by President Obama. In one half hour he laid out his view of the responsibilities and powers of the United States.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/obama-libya-bush

  58. 139 halo
    August 21, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS FOR JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!!!!

  59. August 21, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Latest reports: PBO will make a statement on Libya when he has full confirmation of events…….

    • 142 jacquelineoboomer
      August 21, 2011 at 8:30 pm

      Of course, he will. Remember when he answered a reporter’s question that (my paraphrasing) he prefers to wait until he has something (of substance) to say, before he speaks.

  60. 143 Bobfr
    August 21, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Rixos is not being looted … some very well trained expats are clearing it of remaining Daffi goons so the journos will be able to, perchance, do something they haven’t done for 7 months – report the truth and not merely act as stenographers for Daffi’s lackey ….

  61. 145 carolyn
    August 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    I heard Hisham Melem say on CNN what the tweet was: “Let’s put this in perspective. Gaddafi came into power when Nixon was president. He survived Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, but after 2 1/2 years he can’t survive Obama.” YES!!!
    What will stupid Maureen Dowd and Peggy Noonan have to say about this…..I know, they can’t give him any credit, but his leadership and pulling the NATO forces together, and long term strategy did it. No American lives…..no landing on the Aircraft Carrier with a lying sign behind him.
    He thinks long term…..not short term. When will the press wake up???!!!
    Oh yes, I emailed Savannah Guthrie about her terrible questions to Robert Gibbs. I told her she made women look stupid with those questions, and to do her homework and ask substantive questions. Fortunately, Gibbs didn’t fall into her stupid gotcha trap.

  62. August 21, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    From Twitter: White House sorting out the intel from #Libya; President tells the pool here on MV he may comment later

  63. 147 utaustinliberal
    August 21, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Finally MSNBC came back from their vacation and are now covering the uprising. 🙄

  64. 148 JoJothecat
    August 21, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    How’s that for leadership peggy noonan?

    • 149 conlakappa
      August 21, 2011 at 8:08 pm

      Please. She get all whispery and tell us what her hero “Dutch” would have done. That he didn’t manage to unseat the man despite bombing his house, killing his child, and such won’t even matter, will it?

  65. 150 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    President will NOT make a statement until he has confirmation.He has been briefed by Brennan the whole time

    • 151 criquet
      August 21, 2011 at 8:31 pm

      I read from a BBC report that apparently this was a plan hatched by NATO and the rebels and the date for the operation was 20th August 2011.

      So much for the critics, the ridiculous US media and their rubbish.

  66. August 21, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Andrea Mitchell on MSNBFOX yacking it up. They always call on her to give her two cents.
    ps- So happy we have PBO as our leader! Of course MSM won’t give PBO his credit.

  67. August 21, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    edhenryTV Ed Henry
    President told reporters: “We’re gonna wait till we get full confirmation of what is happening. I will make a statement when we do” #Libya

  68. 154 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    August 21, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    IN A MORE JUST NATION THESE EVENTS WOULD ASSURE A SECOND TERM FOR ANY PRESIDENT YET ALONE PBO, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS PLENTY OF RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY SO WE WILL HAVE TO FIGHT, CLAW, AND SCRAPE FOR PBO’S RE-ELECTION. WE ARE WATCHING HISTORY IN THE MAKING WITH THE 3RD MIDDLE EAST DICTATORSHIP TOPPLING, BUT YET WE WILL STILL HAVE DOUBTERS IN THE COUNTRY.

    THAT SAID, PINCH YOUSELF FOLKS. IT DOESN’T GET ANY BETTER THAT THIS. WITH THE TYPE OF FOREIGN POLICY PBO HAS BUILT SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE IT SHOULDN’T MATTER IF WE HAVE 12% UNEMPLOYMENT IN NOV. OF 2012. THE PREZ SHOULD BE RE-ELECTED. HE LOVES THIS NATION AND IS PROTECTING IT. HE IS ACTUALLY WAGING A TRUE WAR AND VICTORY OVER TERRORISM. HALLELUJAH!! NEXT………………..JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS JOBS!! 😀

    • 155 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 21, 2011 at 8:23 pm

      OH, AND KEEP HOPE ALVIE………..OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!! 😎

    • 156 JoJothecat
      August 21, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      Watch! Next year this time there will be peace between Isreal and Palestine. Palestine people will have there own state and PBO will be elected a 2nd term. You heard it here first!

  69. 157 globalcitizenlinda
    August 21, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Never doubt the wisdom, leadership, and planning of President Obama. Only fools continue to second-guess his long-term thiinking and action!

    they may not give him credit but President Obama stood with the people of Lybia and they are on to victory

    • 158 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 21, 2011 at 8:26 pm

      ………..and you know what PBO most likely could care less if he gets credit or not. He is really that humble. As long as the Lybian people have freedom is all that he cares about. WE ARE LIVING IN A GOLDEN AGE FOLKS!!! 😀

    • 159 Obama Grandmama
      August 21, 2011 at 11:12 pm

      His undergrad degree was specializing in Foreign Relations. See what an intelligent man that listens, thinks carefully, and considers what is best for all concerned without being the pawn of corporations can do? Why would we want a man like this as the President? Enough said. When people decide they would rather have a man they can drink beer with instead of a brilliant pragmatic statesman they get this economy and 2 wars. I just wish the media would be truthful in their presentations instead of pushing the corporate neocon visions.

  70. 160 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    wow 😯

    Libyan State Tv under Rebel control

  71. 163 Anonymous
    August 21, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Tweet–Funny but sadly true: @CJEssex
    PO: Memo to Congress: “I do more stuff on vacation than you do all session…just sayin”.

  72. August 21, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    watching MSNBFOX and they have col. Jack Jacobs who said that this uprising is so surprising because it was 2 pronged: by sea and by land, and so well coordinated, thought of and organized which he says is unusual since the rebels are so disorganized and don’t have any military experience. The large majority of them didn’t even know how to use weapons at the onset of this fighting…………hm. Methinks PBO has a hand in this…… we’ll probably never really find out exactly what our covert operative president did. 😉

    • 166 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 21, 2011 at 8:29 pm

      Well the GOP have been in fear of the OBL movie coming out in October of 2012, now they will have to fear a sequeal with the story of the TOPPLING of the Lybian Dictatorship of Ghadaffi. I’d say these two premiers will give PBO a boost at the right time. 😎 LIFE IS GOOD RIGHT NOW!! Obama/Biden 2012!!

    • 167 StR
      August 21, 2011 at 8:38 pm

      I’d suspect France and the Brits are more heavily involved. I think the US really took a backseat approach after the initial foray to take out the anti-aircraft capabilities.

    • 168 Tien Le
      August 21, 2011 at 8:45 pm

      I read that the sea offensive was planned and supported by NATO

  73. 169 MTmarilyn
    August 21, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    I have plenty of work to do around the house but haven’t been able to move from the computer. Watching this unfold is historic. We are watching this in real time. This is when I love technology. We have a President who understands all of this too. I know I will work harder than ever now to re elect this great man.

  74. 170 GGail
    August 21, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    FANTASTIC! I LOVE the tweets!!!!! Thanks Chipsticks

  75. 171 zizi
    August 21, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    As I said in Twitter: “Anytime PBO plays golf the bad guys within or without US shld be AFRAID. Very AFRAID. Gadhaffi finds this out the hard way. :o) “

  76. 174 Fred
    August 21, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Mitchell bitching and saying how “awkward” it looks on domestic side and International side for the President to be out of town and not in Washington while something this important is going down 🙄

  77. 179 zizi
    August 21, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    The only thing looking awkward is her bad botox job and eyebrow lift 🙄

  78. 180 GOVCHRIS1988
    August 21, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Wow, they are going in with the celebrations. I wonder where Chaka Khan is tonight.

  79. August 21, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    While the Media and those we know who twist and turn to avoid giving President Obama any credit, he quietly gave a “Cairo Speech” that the Muslim world heard and are following through on their Dream of Hope. This is history not to be denied. He inspired them to “Go for it.” No big bravado, no wearing flight suits strutting around arrogantly. He will give credit where it is due, showing the world that more can be accomplished in a coalition than going alone. He is also empowering other nations to see their own power.

    • 183 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 21, 2011 at 9:44 pm

      Well said barb. Some will “get it” in this nation, but I won’t hold my breath for the MSM, PL, and Teathugs. 😕


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