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Robert Reich explains the credit downgrade

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  1. 1 lamh34
    August 20, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    So Jane Hamsher was arrested at the WH???? Anyone else hearing that? Someone on Balloon Juice said something about it? is it true

      • 3 StR
        August 20, 2011 at 9:10 pm

        Seems like Choi is a professional protester now.

        • 4 utaustinliberal
          August 20, 2011 at 9:17 pm

          Jane Hamsher was arrested? My response: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 😆 😆 😆 That’s the funniest news I’ve heard all day.

          • 5 Sue in Minnesota
            August 20, 2011 at 9:20 pm

            I hope she doesn’t try to blame this on President Obama 😉

            • 6 hopefruit2
              August 20, 2011 at 9:23 pm

              Uhm…that’s the purpose and objective of her entire existence right now.

              • 7 Sue in Minnesota
                August 20, 2011 at 9:51 pm

                Well we’ve got her number, I told her off along time ago….I lasted about 2.5 months at Firedoglake, the self absorption and grandiosity on that site is stunning. I left saying I couldn’t differentiate them from the extreme right. Just another brand of toxicity and outrage.

            • 8 HZ
              August 20, 2011 at 10:16 pm

              Sue, this woman would blame President Obama regardless. She is another mean-spirit person to pray to go away. People are tired of these old hateful tactics that the foolish people are wasting time on. Let her stay in jail, that is the case.

        • 9 hopefruit2
          August 20, 2011 at 9:20 pm

          As long as President Obama is in the WH, that is. And these fools expect to be taken seriously.

      • 10 nospin
        August 20, 2011 at 9:49 pm

        wait.. . . “Jane Hamsher, Dan Choi, and Bill McKibben were continuing their ongoing Powershift action “What To Do When The President Is Not That Into You” by taking part in the Tar Sands protest in front of the White House this morning.

        Okaaaaay . . . Did they realize that outside of the staff, no one was home including the family dog?

    • 11 StR
      August 20, 2011 at 9:38 pm

      About 50-60 in total. All thought they would be fined and released same day, but they’re all going to be kept until Monday. Park officials wan to dissuade protests from growing as there is a plan to protest the MLK Memorial opening. Folks are less likely to join in on this if they know they’ll get a two night stay in jail vs a $100 fine and same release.

      I believe if you’re held over night you get the stripsearch and use of the communal toilet.

      • 12 nospin
        August 20, 2011 at 9:51 pm

        “I believe if you’re held over night you get the stripsearch and use of the communal toilet.”

        they can always hope.

      • 13 Sue in Minnesota
        August 20, 2011 at 9:53 pm

        Who is planning on protesting the MLK Memorial? The KKK?

        Whoever it is I am disgusted.

        • 14 jacquelineoboomer
          August 20, 2011 at 10:10 pm

          Sue – I couldn’t agree more. There is a march the day before (Rev. Al is involved; it’s fully coordinated with the memorial foundation, etc.), but that is for jobs and it definitely isn’t in protest of the memorial. Think the timing of the earlier march is to grab many of the attendees who will be in D.C. for the dedication. I’m not quite sure I agree with tacking that march on, but the attendees will definitely be showing respect to the larger event and the man we are honoring on Aug. 28.

          • 15 HZ
            August 20, 2011 at 10:39 pm

            I think any deccent minded person would be upset with this woman and her minions at this point. Rev. Al’s march is focus on jobs. What decent citizen would not be thinking with Rev. Al and his group for focusing on jobs. We need to continue to support the President and his team on getting to this part of the equation. Yet, this woman with her sick selfish self is out there protesting what? Then how can she equate her actions with what is to be a beautiful celebration with honor for what was accomplished by Dr. Martin L. King Jr. and all of the wonderful people who put their lives on the line for something good, worthy of honoring and participating in for the sake of bringing good and decent people together to remember what this man did for our country and the world. This mess is getting out of hand. People, especially the young people who are trying to find their way back to college and those who still need financial help are trying to find their way as well, and we get these ugly, selfish, clowning circus acts going on. Come on people we have better things to be doing for our younger people who just need a little help of encouragement, hope in what they are trying to accomplish, and some real heavy lifting for a President who has been dogged from the moment he announced that he would be running for the President of the United States. Some of the evils went back to their comfortable chairs and took several naps becaue they thougt President was a joke to them. Well, we showed them throughout the campaign that Sen. Barack Obama was not a joke. Then when we delivered on our hard work, they awaken, stood up , stretched, and startedd with their nasty, hateful, evil, and vile acts against President Obama and they will continue until he leads officially in Jan. 2017. So we stand firm, tall, straighten out backs, dig our heels in, and shovel the manure away and move on with a victory in 2012. I pray God will continue to give me physical strength, calm wisdom, a loving heart to help all the way. It hurts my heart(literally) very much to know how many young and older people, and children’s lives will be tainted for years to come by these evil and vile people .Now I need to go and take my heart medication. I am sorry. Do not worry, I will be fine. I love you all here in my family.HZ

          • 17 Sue in Minnesota
            August 20, 2011 at 11:50 pm

            I understand the NAN march on the 27th, I would have liked to been able to afford the trip. I am ready to take it to the streets, but only in a peaceful and responsible way.

            But for any group to disrupt the memorial service on the 28th is unconscionable to me. At first I was going to make a snide remark about the tea party switching their hats….but it’s not something to snark about. It sickens me. I am going to pray for a day filled with enlightenment and peace and a renewed spirit of unity across America and the world. I hope others will join me.

          • 18 isonprize
            August 21, 2011 at 12:05 am

            actually, I get (and agree) with the connection, since when Dr. King died in Memphis, he was there in support of the trash collection workers being on strike. I like the connection.

      • 19 prettyfoot58
        August 21, 2011 at 2:23 am

        who is protesting the MLK memorial…

  2. 21 hopefruit2
    August 20, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Oh Hampster and Choi are doing their usual Fire-baggin’ attention whoring activities. They should be ignored.

  3. 25 Esmerelda
    August 20, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Is Twitter really slow right now or is it just my iPhone app?

  4. 29 utaustinliberal
    August 20, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Robert Reich’s explanation was funny, wry, and yet oddly disturbing.

    • 30 jacquelineoboomer
      August 20, 2011 at 9:32 pm

      I think you summed that up for all of us, utaustinliberal.

      Mostly what I heard was “don’t cut public spending,” which I think is better than any “Tell President Obama” crap. I’m sticking with that rationalization, and hoping Reich meant well.

      Wonder if he thought of this? I’m pretty sure he came out big in ’08 for candidate Obama and not Hillary (big surprise, I think I recall, since he was part of the Clinton administration). He usually has no trouble expressing his views. You can tell I’m still talking myself into thinking he meant well.


      • 31 jacquelineoboomer
        August 20, 2011 at 9:41 pm

        Reich’s website has a comment with the video: “Comedy video for my son, Sam” and a tag: “College Humor.”


        I read through a bunch of his recent posts. He’s too much “Look at me, I’m talking” for my tastes. Plus, nobody much calls on him anymore for policy advice, to the best of my knowledge. But since he was a big supporter of our President before the ’08 election (losing some Clinton friends at the time), I just wish he could hang around and support him throughout his presidency. Seems like he’s half in and half out. Darn.

        • 32 jacquelineoboomer
          August 20, 2011 at 9:45 pm

          This is from Wiki, about Reich. I’m going to forgive him his trespasses tonight, because this took a lot of courage (and sounded great to hear during the last campaign):

          During the 2008 primaries, Reich published an article that was extremely critical of the Clintons, referring to Bill Clinton’s attacks on Barack Obama as “ill-tempered and ill-founded,” and accusing the Clintons of waging “a smear campaign against Obama that employs some of the worst aspects of the old politics.” On April 18, 2008 Reich endorsed Barack Obama for President of the United States.

          • 33 57andFemale
            August 21, 2011 at 9:16 am

            It’s all personal, with all of these people. Reich was sidelined seriously by the Clintons during his tenure as Labor Secretary — the notion that the Clintons are ‘progressive’ is ridiculous. It was then a combination of being pushed out and his wanting out — Clinton had no use for his more liberal approach.

            He’s been at the forefront of piling on against Obama since the election. It’s all about not getting what these people think should be a seat at the table. Waters, Conyers, Jesse Jackson, and the looney left blogosphere. It’s all about the attention they think they should be getting.

            I’ll say it again — I only wish Pat Robertson had behaved this way in 1982 when Roe v. Wade wasn’t overturned fast enough to please him. The Christian Right would have imploded and this country wouldn’t be in the mess it’s in.

            Although I agree with Reich on a lot of economic issues (we are progressives, after all), he’s all for giving up manufacturing in this country and going to an all-service economy. I believe he includes science and R & D — but the notion that we shouldn’t make things in this country disturbs me. So I question is logic sometimes.

            I couldn’t watch the video because my creaky old computer won’t handle it so I’d love a quick summary of what he said.

      • 34 nathkatun7
        August 20, 2011 at 10:32 pm

        May be I remember differently, Jacqueline O. It’s true that Reich eventually supported President Obama after Edwards dropped out but I don’t remember him “coming out big in ’08 for candidate Obama.” One thing that I am sure about is that he has, along with Krugman, been the most prominent critic of the President. That criticism began with his dissatisfaction with the stimulus bill. Currently, he is definitely one of the darlings of the PL. I like Robert Reich, but I think that like all the “public intellectuals,” such as Cornel West and Paul Krugman, he craves a great deal of attention.

        • 35 57andFemale
          August 21, 2011 at 9:18 am

          You’re right. He is not a prominent Obama supporter. He may have been before the election and expected to be rewarded for his efforts. He’s been a very vocal critic of Obama since.

    • August 20, 2011 at 9:34 pm

      Mostly bizarre, really.

    • 37 nathkatun7
      August 20, 2011 at 10:13 pm

      IMO this was purely unnecessary because it is not going to happen. I am sorry, but I detected another, hair on fire, alarmist who is cleverly undermining President Obama. The S&P downgrading of U.S. Credit rating was purely based on politics and not on economic reality.

    • August 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm

      I basically thought the same thing. Funny but sad.

  5. 39 hopefruit2
    August 20, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    For those of us who find ourselves dazed at Tweety’s bizzare back-n-forth behavior on Hardball, here is some revealing history about Tweety at MSNBC…


    • 40 jacquelineoboomer
      August 20, 2011 at 9:52 pm

      Tweety needs to go.

      • 41 utaustinliberal
        August 20, 2011 at 10:22 pm

        Am I in an alternate world? Chris Matthews used to be a substitute host for Limbaugh, whenever Limbaugh took a vacation? I already knew that before it was the pc thing to rightfully call out GWB and the lie about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction, Chris was all gaga over Bush and the “Mission Accomplished” crap. But to fill in for Rush Limbaugh?….. Ewwwww.

        • 42 nathkatun7
          August 20, 2011 at 10:38 pm

          UTAL, Chris Matthews is one of those people who holds up a hankie, during wind storm, to see which way the wind is blowing so he can follow.

          • 43 prettyfoot58
            August 21, 2011 at 2:31 am

            i did not know this about Chris Matthews……wow…i have to harken back to all his comments about the President soon after he was elected…ooooooooo weeeeeee…it can be maddening keeping up with all this….i need to open an Excel spread sheet to keep tabs on everyone….<<>>

        • 44 Doris
          August 20, 2011 at 10:39 pm

          He said on the clip that Chips has up that he used to be a Republican. His whole family was Republican and his brother still is, so I’m not surprised that he’s so swishy washy. Didn’t know about his connection to Limbaugh though. Wonders never cease.

          • 45 57andFemale
            August 21, 2011 at 9:20 am

            Matthews was a Democratic staffer. I don’t think he was a Republican, but came from Republican roots.

            • 46 hopefruit2
              August 21, 2011 at 9:44 am

              This from Wikipedia:

              /// Despite having worked for Democrats, Matthews has said, “I’m more conservative than people think I am. … I voted for George W. in 2000.”[6] Salon.com has called him the “most conservative voice” on MSNBC’s primetime lineup.[7] ///


    • August 20, 2011 at 11:06 pm

      If you guys want a riot of a laugh go back and read Media Matters Tweety and others man crush on Bush’s landing on the flight deck.

      Chief among the cheerleaders was MSNBC’s Chris Matthews. On the May 1, 2003, edition of Hardball, Matthews was joined in his effusive praise of Bush by right-wing pundit Ann Coulter and “Democrat” Pat Caddell. Former U.S. Rep. Robert K. Dornan (R-CA) also appeared on the program.:

      MATTHEWS: What’s the importance of the president’s amazing display of leadership tonight?


      MATTHEWS: What do you make of the actual visual that people will see on TV and probably, as you know, as well as I, will remember a lot longer than words spoken tonight? And that’s the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star. A guy who is a jet pilot. Has been in the past when he was younger, obviously. What does that image mean to the American people, a guy who can actually get into a supersonic plane and actually fly in an unpressurized cabin like an actual jet pilot?


      MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically […], the president deserves everything he’s doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. Do you think he is defining the office of the presidency, at least for this time, as basically that of commander in chief? That […] if you’re going to run against him, you’d better be ready to take [that] away from him.

      On the May 7, 2003, edition of Hardball, Matthews asked former Nixon administration official G. Gordon Liddy what he thought of the response to Bush’s landing on the Abraham Lincoln. Looking at the footage, Liddy commented that Bush’s flight suit made “the best of his manly characteristic.” From the May 7 Hardball:

      MATTHEWS: What do you make of this broadside against the USS Abraham Lincoln and its chief visitor last week?

      LIDDY: Well, I — in the first place, I think it’s envy. I mean, after all, Al Gore had to go get some woman to tell him how to be a man. And here comes George Bush. You know, he’s in his flight suit, he’s striding across the deck, and he’s wearing his parachute harness, you know — and I’ve worn those because I parachute — and it makes the best of his manly characteristic. You go run those — run that stuff again of him walking across there with the parachute. He has just won every woman’s vote in the United States of America. You know, all those women who say size doesn’t count — they’re all liars. Check that out. I hope the Democrats keep ratting on him and all of this stuff so that they keep showing that tape.


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