11
Aug
11

oh boy……

ThinkProgress

And this is the guy the professional left are conspiring to elect?

Good grief.

Thank you Fred.

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Steve Benen: …. Occasionally, Romney interacts with real people who aren’t part of the meticulous choreography. And that’s when the ostensible GOP frontrunner gets into trouble. Here’s Romney campaigning in Iowa this morning, for example, following a shouting match with hecklers concerned about taxes and entitlements.

“Corporations are people, my friend,” Romney said in response to suggestions that big businesses should pay more. He added, “Of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to people.”

At that moment, a whole lot of political and media professionals, all at the same time, whispered to themselves, “Well, that’s going to show up in a campaign ad sometime soon.”

Part of the problem with this is the phrasing, since “corporations are people” doesn’t exactly scream “man of the people.”….

…. And that leads to the larger point: Romney’s been running for president non-stop for nearly five years, but he’s still not good at the whole “personal interaction” thing. Just over the past few months, we’ve seen several examples — the jokes about being “unemployed” in Florida; the fake butt-pinch in New Hampshire, the $100 bill in Colorado — that reinforce the belief talking and relating to people just doesn’t come naturally to Romney.

If Democrats are eager to characterize Romney as a weird guy who isn’t comfortable in his own skin, the former governor actually seems eager to help reinforce the theme…..

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30 Responses to “oh boy……”


  1. August 11, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    If I could ask for a feature on this blog, it would be for someone to volunteer to summarize these videos for content for those of us who are reluctant to view until we know what we’ll see. Any takers?

    • 2 StR
      August 11, 2011 at 3:14 pm

      The jist of this one is that Romney is talking about protecting Medicare, SS and the like by saying there is a few approaches one would be to raise taxes and he doesn’t support that, and a crowd member shouts “on corporations” and then Romney goes into a defense of Corporations being people too and the shouter isn’t buying it.

      • 3 57andFemale
        August 11, 2011 at 3:21 pm

        “I’ll solve all our problems by not raising taxes!”

        “We are all connected……by Wall St. And Obama hates rich people and I hate poor people, since 50% of Americans are freeloaders using their unpaid for roads by not paying any Federal taxes.”

        That about sums it up. He was horrible.

  2. 5 Bill
    August 11, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    He also said, “Corporations are people, my friend,” in the same exchange.

    • 6 Bill
      August 11, 2011 at 3:13 pm

      Sorry, I did not see Steve Benen’s post before I commented.

    • 7 cuphalffull
      August 11, 2011 at 4:51 pm

      I own the film “The Corporation” and they make the point through the whole thing that corporations if they are people are sociopaths. Its great logic.

  3. 8 StR
    August 11, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    His campaign put out a wise ass tweet “Do folks think corporations are buildings? They’re people who incorporate to conduct business. They create jobs and hire more people.” in some sort of defense.

    Thing is under the law Romney is of course correct. But I don’t think many folks would know or understand the designation and if they did would necessary agree with it. It’s not an argument Romney wants to get bogged down in.

    • 9 Sue in Minnesota
      August 11, 2011 at 4:01 pm

      These corporations have no allegience to the welfare of our people, only their bottom line…profit and loss. We are nothing more than the cogs in their machinery and the consumer and investor dollars in their pockets. President Obama does not disparage the rich, he calls out
      the Greedy, and the Selfish Rich, as well as the imbalance of power that they wield over average Americans in the halls of government.
      Romney’s false equivalency needs to be squashed……the corporations can not be considered greater than our people, let alone people. They may not be a building but they certainly are a bottom line..

      What a mess, he did not answer the very simple question….how are you goingt to protect our social programs. Screaming Mimi 😯

      • 10 Sue in Minnesota
        August 12, 2011 at 1:09 am

        up to my usual bad typing……..I meant to state corporations can not be allowed to become larger than government, or considered more important than our people.

    • 11 Sue in Minnesota
      August 11, 2011 at 4:08 pm

      They aren’t people, they are a bottom line.

    • 12 nathkatun7
      August 11, 2011 at 10:55 pm

      Government hires and pays real people, including members of Congress; pays SS and medicare and medicaid to real people; takes care of real men and women in the armed forces, and finances a sophisticated defense system that is manned by, and benefits, real people; helps educate real people who would serve the country in various jobs; invests in research that employs real people and benefits real people; and, it helps build the infrastructure( roads, bridges, air ports; railways) to help transport real people as well as goods that benefit real people, including “corporations.” So why is Mitt Romney and his Republican buddies running against government?

      • 13 Sue in Minnesota
        August 12, 2011 at 12:45 am

        That is such a contradiction, but one that they adhere to fiercely. I say they don’t want government they should relocate their asses to Somalia. Take their guns with them….they will need them. The anti-government representation in Washington, those elected to serve and failing to respect the interests of all Americans, and the big corporations who avoid paying taxes are the biggest welfare moochers in the country. They sicken me and offend my sense of common decency.

        Lets face it, money is the altar they worship at. The American people and the collective quality of their lives mean little or nothing to them, unless, of course like any other resource they can use them until they are depleted. I find them cruel and despicable people.

  4. 14 57andFemale
    August 11, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    Randi Rhodes — terrific today on this subject.

  5. 15 Fred
    August 11, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    you are very welcome Chip.Anything to expose bad rubbish as long as you are willing to spread this around 😉

  6. 16 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    August 11, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    PERSONALLY…I CAN’T EVEN STAND TO LOOK AT THE KEN DOLL WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT GOES ON IN REAL LIFE! SO GLAD HE’S GETTING THE ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ HAMMER! WELL DESERVED!

    • 17 HZ
      August 11, 2011 at 7:36 pm

      Sue, I am with you on this one all the way. He does not sppeal to me intellectually, common sense wise, my people’s skills with a body temperature that will at least keep the person in front of you in the audience luke warm. This man is not the President that I want to listen to, look at each day, or trust in anyway. Take Mitt back to his many wonderful homes and let room his households. No thanks, Mr. Mitt.

  7. 18 carolyn
    August 11, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    OH…..so glad someone else calls Romney a Ken doll! I have done that for at least five years! He has just that much substance and reality. At one time I thought he would be the Republican nominee through sheer persistence and seniority, but I can see him self destructing again. His numbers never rise enough to carry him. The more people see and hear him, the less they like him.

  8. 19 Debz
    August 11, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Mitt, Mitt, Mitt, you are an idiot!!! And Tweety was worried that PBO was going to swift-boat him? He’s going to swift-boat himself.

  9. 20 Jackie Bell
    August 11, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Romney suffers from foot in mouth disease. Get the hook!

  10. 21 utaustinliberal
    August 11, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    My goodness Romney is a colossal idiot. He just keeps handing the dems and President Obama slivers of campaign ads heaven. In every interaction I’ve seen with him and people, he acts like he doesn’t know how to be human. Freaking awkward weirdo. He makes everyone around him uncomfortable with lame ass jokes, comments, statements and overall demeanor. He really should read “An Idiot’s Guide To Being Human.” Fake manual; but you get my point.

    • 22 nathkatun7
      August 11, 2011 at 11:14 pm

      UT, I totally get your point! If this is the guy that’s offered as the rational Republican, then Republicans have completely lost it. The guy completely lost his cool. If Mitt Romney can’t control himself to rationally answer a question from a regular citizen, how is he going to handle the WH press corp? Unless, of course, the MSM media decides to treat him with kid gloves, just as they did with G.W. Bush.

  11. 23 Obama Grandmama
    August 11, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    I figure Romney will walk back his proclamation that Corporations are people to Corporations employ people or Corporations, People, are important, but I see the campaign is trying to defend the statement. Hope it is a major FAIL.

  12. 24 cuphalffull
    August 11, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    I liked the part about where do you think the money corporations make goes? In their pockets. It was a great come back. We are going to have to practice our responses and our questions and show up at all the town halls. One thing these guys all do is not answer the question if they don’t like it and if the person asking the questions tries to request that they do they pull the John McCain. You know, when he looks disgusted and asks who is speaking right now? Talk about treating people like children. I will think about that one and figure out a way to verbally fight back without letting them pull the usual.

  13. August 11, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    I tweeted Tweety the other day and I told him that the people aren’t dumb and they know what’s go, this video proves my point.

    He pushes that same lie that half the people don’t pay taxes, man this guy is and dunce and if not for the fact he was born into money he would have never gotten as far as he has. In comparison the president was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has surpassed him and all the other trust fund babies and that’s what makes people like Mittens so mad because they think the president doesn’t deserve to be where he is.

  14. 26 sjterrid
    August 11, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    I think Romney made it very clear that he is more concerned for the wealthy and corporations, and he doesn’t care that people would suffer. most americans believe the wealthy should be taxed more, and big corporations shouldn’t get subsidized or have tax loopholes. The polls show they are blaming the Tea Party for the downgrade, as they should, because of their refusal to raise any revenue and tying it to the deficit in the first place.

    Remember in 2010 they told seniors that Obama’s health plan would kill medicare, well the ACA passed and guess what it didn’t in fact they now pay less for prescriptions, and they now get preventative care. Now the republicans have said they want to eliminate all entitlements and privatize SS. They have town halls but only giving talking points, they don’t answer questions.
    The reason Obama won Iowa was because he was there for a long time, and he really wanted to know what their concerns were. He held a lot of town halls and he welcomed questions.

    I’m feeling really good about 2012, yes I’m still going to work hard. The republicans thinking they had a mandate are actually showing who they are working for, and it’s certainly not the people.

    • 27 Sue in Minnesota
      August 12, 2011 at 1:23 am

      I can not seperate the Tea Party from the Republicans. IMO there is no daylight between them. In fact I don’t think the Republicans should be allowed to use them for cover, in light of their record of obstruction and refusal to compromise since the beginning of President Obama’s
      term in office. Patrick Duval quoted Grover Norquist saying that if the Republicans did not have the majority they could make it impossible for the Democrats to govern. This is a betrayal to the American people, IMO.

  15. 28 ribletsonthepan
    August 11, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Keep this guy on the stump! Everyday, rain, sleet or shine! LOLCAT! Adding to the many reasons of “Romney Fail’ so aptly stated by others, for me the biggest “tell” was the exchange of Romney flustered and exasperated to regain control over the discussion. He could have handled the shouting questions a number of ways. A quip, a joke, or simply allowing the person to say his piece. Needless to say Obama is a master at this and Romney was simply unable to understand nor assess the situation and act appropriately. So at first he tried shouting back which was a sure sign he was losing control. When that didn’t work he did what you are never suppose to do in a debate. Plead for deference. Only in Romney’s world does one get the luxury of deference, something he completely fails to understand. Folk who rely on social security, medicare and medicaid are not afforded deference on a daily basis as evidenced by the shouts, …”you came here to listen to the people”.

  16. 29 W.R. German
    August 12, 2011 at 2:27 am

    Yeah Mitt, corporations are people the same way “Soylent Green is people”…

  17. 30 conlakappa
    August 12, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Does he have any of the people who worked for the last 3 R presidents in his camp? He doesn’t appear to, which is why he isn’t being stage-managed yet. I know I’ve recounted it other places but don’t think I have here: when I attended an event at the White House during the previous occupant’s reign, he was working the receiving line/giving his normal platitudes/crowd-speak. I tried to avoid meeting him but literally backed into Laura so could only move forward and I said something that was off-script for him. He flustered, he looked confused as if I were trying to trap him or something. It was very awkward. I walked away with the impression that no, he isn’t dumb at all. Just so heavily managed that he feared even the most simple of human exchanges. As for Mittens, if he looked like an animatronic before, prepare for him to be even more so. He’s like the Disney rendition of St. Ronnie.


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