holland, michigan

President Obama shakes hands as he arrives at Gerald Ford International Airport in Grand Rapids, Michigan, August 11

President Obama holds a battery as talks with Amanda Spore during his tour of Johnson Controls

President Obama waves to an employee in a “clean” facility during a tour of Johnson Controls Inc. in Holland, Mich., Aug. 11. Elizabeth Rolinski, vice president of operations at Johnson Controls Inc., right, accompanied the President during the tour of the advanced battery facility

President Barack Obama arrives to speak at Johnson Controls Inc. in Holland, Mich

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  1. 1 Fred
    August 11, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    hate to link anything to the dick’s page but

    Perry got advice from George W. Bush before deciding to run

    • 2 edp4bho
      August 11, 2011 at 2:45 pm

      Okay, his goose is cooked….LOL 😀

    • 4 StR
      August 11, 2011 at 2:48 pm

      And Rumsfield and the boys are advising him on national security measures. He’ll probably chose Bolton as his VP.

    • 5 StR
      August 11, 2011 at 3:03 pm

      It’s a trap. Don’t trust any Bushie when it comes to Presidential politics because they’re all acting in the best interest of one person – Jeb Bush. Perry running takes another potential 2016 candidate out of that field and greatly hurts the chances of Romney winning this year. A Romney win this year would put Jeb on the bench for eight years and end his Presidential chances. Jeb Bush and his supporters want President Obama to be re-elected.

      Run a whackjob like Perry and prove to the GOP that teabaggers are not electable so they better run a moderate next time – somebody like Jeb Bush. If Romney was the nominee and lost the Tea Baggers would be emboldened saying “We ran a mushy middle guy – we needed a rock ribbed teabagger”.

      • 6 Anonymous
        August 11, 2011 at 3:22 pm

        StR, how woukd you interpret the fact that Jeb Bush Jr. endorsed Huntsman?

        I’m not sure Jeb Bush Sr. aims at the WH for 2016 . Maybe he thinks the presidency is impossible but aims at VP or some very poweful position in a republican White House in 2012?

        • 7 StR
          August 11, 2011 at 3:54 pm

          I think Jeb Jr, who will co-chair GenH, which will be a Huntsman campaign reach out to 40 and under Republicans, will just use this for experience and steal most of what he learns for his fathers campaign in four years.

          Huntsman has no chance at winning the nomination, he’s having campaign staff troubles, and didn’t catch on with any supporter base. Some say Huntsman is running now just to get national name value for 2016, but basing his campaign out of Florida then is a huge mistake because Jeb Bush and/or Marco Rubio would be home grown candidates in Fla and Huntsman would never have a chance in the state in 2016.

          I think Jeb would accept a cabinet spot, but wouldn’t accept a VP offer because the former means the Republican has been elected, while the latter of course would mean he’d have to campaign and toe the top of the ticket’s line. He wouldn’t really be a fit for anybodies VP. Wouldn’t accept working under Bachmann or Perry (who will already get enough George Dubya Bush comparisons without having a Bush on his ticket), wouldn’t make sense for Romney, Huntsman who would need a rock ribbed Evangelical. Pawlenty would need somebody with foreign policy credentials.

          • 8 theo67
            August 11, 2011 at 4:50 pm

            Jeb Jr could also be working for Huntsman to learn how he works, so he can help his father in 2016, when there will be no front runner or incumbent to beat. StR, I think you’re right about the Bush’s clearing the field for 2016. I hope the Dems are grooming someone right now with enough charisma and know-how to take the reigns from President Obama. What do you think about VP Joe Biden?

            • 9 StR
              August 11, 2011 at 5:20 pm

              I think President Obama will help potential 2016 contenders during his second term. I don’t think Biden will run, he’ll be seen as too old regardless. I still will not count out Hillary Clinton – I think she resigns from State in early 2013, lays low for a couple years, starts an international Empowering Women-type charity, maybe teaches classes at a smallish university. Than come early 2015 she’ll get bit by the bug.

              If she doesn’t want to campaign for two years, I think she’d be the ideal VP candidate for the eventual Dem Candidate.

              Other candidates I see in 2016 – Deval Patrick(Mass), Martin O’Malley(Md), Andrew Cuomo(NY), Brian Schweitzer(MT), John Hickenlooper(Col), Tim Kaine(Va), Mark Warner(Va).

              If the Obama Admin isn’t grooming potential replacements in his second term that will be another tell Clinton is running. I think the country will be looking for another first in 2016 after Pres. Obama being the first African American President. I think folks will be looking for the first female President or first Latino President. Jeb Bush isn’t of course Latino, but he’s married to a Mexican-American so the first family would be Latino. This is why Meg Whitman went all in in Cali for the Gov spot – both to pull the same Koch/ALEC garbage, but also because she was fast tracking her way to the 2016 VP spot.

              If I was to make a prediction now I’d say Bush/Portman (Fla/Ohio swing states locked down) vs Clinton/Warner will be the battle in 2016.

              • 10 theo67
                August 11, 2011 at 5:38 pm

                Good analysis. I am not convinced that VP Biden will be too old in 2016, but he might be tired after another 5 years to contemplate 8 more years in the WH.

                I’m also not convinced that Hillary would be a great choice. I was a staunch Hillary supporter during the election because I’d always been impressed by her tenacity (and I always saw her as the first woman President), and I fought against then-Sen Obama for a long time. But, once I started learning more about him, I realized that there was no other candidate except him that could do the job that was needed for this time. In hindsight, I can’t imagine that Hillary could have beaten the GOP machinery. She’s got Bill Clinton, who is a huge ego and a huge drag on any message she brings on her own. Too many targets for the GOP and late night. Which is why I’m glad she was able to become Sec of State – I just wish she was staying for the full second term, when she could really do some of the development work she is interested in, without the threat of the re-election and potentially a more free budget. I think she’ll have some of the same issues with a Jeb Bush machinery, and wouldn’t be able to differentiate herself enough to point to how disastrous it would be to have another Bush in the White House.

                The list of candidates you listed didn’t really seem impressive. I like Deval Patrick, but he seems too nice and soft-spoken. Andrew Cuomo might stand a chance. But there was a woman featured a couple of weeks ago on MSNBC when Melissa Harris-Perry was covering for Rachel. She’s a Dem Governor with a Republican Assembly, and she’s fighting hard to protect abortion rights, minorities, workers – everything under attack by the GOP. I can’t recall her name, but she seems like a spirited, committed and interesting personality. And being a woman, she would slaughter the GOP machinery – they don’t have a woman who could defeat a Democratic woman with a proven track record of defending women’s rights.

                • August 11, 2011 at 6:28 pm

                  Only to current female Dem governors are Beverly Perdue of NC and Cristine Gregoire of Washington. Perdue isn’t going to run for re-election because she’d lose. Both of these ladies are in their mid-60’s already.

              • August 12, 2011 at 12:33 am

                Gov. O’Malley of Maryland!!!!

      • August 11, 2011 at 4:33 pm

        It’s a trap. Don’t trust any Bushie when it comes to Presidential politics Correction, you can’t trust any of the Bushes on Politics Period. The end.

      • 15 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        August 11, 2011 at 6:25 pm

        I thought PBO was suppose to win re-election? We are not thinking anything different. The alternative would be devastating to the nation and especially Dems. What you say about the Bushes’ makes since. If ya’ll had noticed PBO has had PaPa Bush over to the Whitehouse 2 or 3 times since his occupancy. “W” has visited once that I know of. If your assumptions are correct I hope the Bushites get their wish and PBO is re-elected. BTW the last thing we need is another Bush in the Whitehouse before the 21st century ends. 😯

  2. 18 COS
    August 11, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Don’t these reporters know that PBO is not there to talk about the debt ceiling. Everyone always want to say what he need to talk about. Yuk!!!

    • 19 COS
      August 11, 2011 at 2:44 pm

      FYI, C-Span 1 will be showing PBO’s speech Live on TV.

    • 20 gcwp1
      August 11, 2011 at 2:48 pm

      I’m at the point where the words “Obama needs to…” is simply a Stop Sign. Next.

      • 21 dotster
        August 11, 2011 at 5:03 pm

        Me too—-sick of all these fools, most of whom were never elected to anything, saying “Obama needs to..”—.as if they know better. What a joke.

        • 22 dotster
          August 11, 2011 at 5:46 pm

          And shortly after I wrote that I see Tweety is continuing his Obama bash fest today. He and Salon’s Joan Walsh and Reagan Jr. are all still so “disappointed” and all saying what Obama “needs to do”. It’s a gang-up again. Can someone please make Tweety shut up. Did he not see Obama’s speech today. Why is he dedicated to this anti-Obama train and ignoring reality? I keep asking, is it to boost a Repub candidate for an exciting election, for ratings? It looks so staged to me, fake.

          • 23 Roberta in MN
            August 11, 2011 at 6:26 pm

            I sent an email to him about his, Joan’s and Ron’s dissing the President. And I wrote down almost all of the sponsors on his show and later tonight or is there an email I can send them to.

            • 24 Anonymous
              August 11, 2011 at 7:35 pm


              WTF have these tools been promised? What have they sold their souls for? The thought of four more years of Obama is intlolerable to them. Why? Are they bright enough to read the “YOU WILL BECOME DISPOSABLE” written on the wall?

      • 25 sabreen60
        August 12, 2011 at 12:30 am

        President Obama is the ONLY President who has and is being micro-managed. It’s disgusting.

        • August 12, 2011 at 12:38 am

          I am SO sick of this! I am sorry its racism..l no one would dare do this to Hillary! No one would dare do this to Bill!

          • 27 Eleroy
            August 12, 2011 at 4:39 am

            “..no one would dare do this to Hillary! No one would dare do this to Bill!..”

            Maybe it’s because most of the loudest of the bunch are Clinton stooges!!!

            If the Clinton’s pulled off a third of what President Obama has accomplished in less than 3 years, these same critics would be erecting shrines in their honor!!!

  3. August 11, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    where is Daddy Warbucks aka Joe Clancy? I know I keep asking this, but seriously, where the sam hill is he?

  4. 29 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    President Barack Obama:

    There is nothing wrong with our COUNTRY, there is something wrong with our POLITICS.

    • August 11, 2011 at 3:56 pm

      So true Mr. President, you are telling the truth, nothing but the truth. Nothing wrong with our country, it’s something wrong with our politics. 2012 I hope we can go along way in fixing our politics by cleaning out the Republican House.

      • 31 theo67
        August 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm

        We have to do something to encourage the dedicated Dems who are getting drowned out by the “disappointed” left and the media whores. There are a ton of Dems who just keep their heads down, get on with the work – we never hear from them because they don’t do anything for ratings for the media. If we can encourage this type of Dem, and encourage people to learn the truth for themselves, then I think all the pain President Obama is going through now will be well worth it. Get rid of/expose the professional left and their ilk.

    • August 11, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      Now ain’t that the truth???? I think I’ll have a drink on that one line alone. I can certainly feel our President’s frustration In his speech. Lord knows he spelled It out plain and simple. And yet I sometimes hear certain medias say that he needs to say what he wants, or perhaps act like they don’t really know anything about our President. He’s been plain and simple from JUMP street. Can they hear?????? I’m not getting It 😦 Whtz up with that????????

  5. August 11, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    PBO on fire!!! He’s taking it to congress. The people in the audience seem to agree with him.

  6. 35 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    The downgrade was a self inflected wound. You are frustrated and I’m frustrated, because YOU DESERVE BETTER.

    President Obama is making it plain……

    • 36 dotster
      August 11, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      Thought he was on fire, brought the employees there along with him, made great points, told the truth about who is holding up what. He didn’t look at all “dazed and confused” as some cockeyed editorial purported and CNN decided needed reading on their morning show. Hardly. I’ve never seen him look anything but confident and sure.

  7. August 11, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Prez is speaking nothing but truth. Love him.

  8. 41 PoliticalJunkessa
    August 11, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Thanks for transcribing, guys 😛 !

  9. 43 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    GOVERNMENT has a role to play in the lives of the American people. Private/public partnerships are working and they don’t require involvement from congress.

    There are things that congress can do now.. But people are putting party over country.

    If you agree with me you have got to let congress know. Tell them you have had enough. Stop sending out press releases and pass some bills.

  10. August 11, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    PBO in regards to congress: you’ve got to call them and tell them………stop sending out press releases and start passing some bills.

  11. 45 Linda
    August 11, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    He is taking it directly to the People……

    • 46 theo67
      August 11, 2011 at 4:55 pm

      And there will be more of this fire next week on the road tour. Lovely! I’ll be on vacation, but will have to find a computer and check in – I love it when the gloves come off with this President. He’s got to be pretty frustrated, especially now when the media is telling him not to take vacation.

      • 47 dotster
        August 11, 2011 at 5:15 pm

        He touched on that somewhat, saying that some are asking him to call Congress back to D.C. He said the last thing we need right now is to watch Congress fighting some more. He said he wanted them home in their districts and he wanted the people to confront them and ask them to work with each other, to put politics aside, to get something done for the good of the country. He said if they hear from enough constituents they might be more willing to work together when they get back.

  12. 49 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Oh, this is so exciting. I am loving this speech. This is just wonderful. He is calling out congress and telling the American people to call their representatives if they agree with him.

    We have gridlock because of politics.

    Send a message to congress to come to an agreement on the trade deals that are ready to go.

    I want to see ‘MADE IN AMERICA’ on products sold around the world.

    Reform the patent system so ideas can be turned into businesses quickly.

    Employ veterans coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan. Let’s put vets to work right now.

    These are things that we can do right now. Let’s get it done.

    • August 11, 2011 at 3:12 pm

      I’d like to see more products that say ‘Made in America’ sold in THIS country and in other countries.

      • 51 theo67
        August 11, 2011 at 4:57 pm

        Better for those things to be sold in other countries where there is plenty more disposable income, and let Americans save and get out of debt for a while. This will avoid recessions in future by shoring up US buying power even in the face of downturns, because people won’t panic so quickly if they’ve got a rainy-day fund put aside. Less consumption, more production and export.

      • August 11, 2011 at 5:06 pm

        Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, and me too

  13. August 11, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    Prez sending out the call for us to contact congress to stop sending out press releases and 1) extend the payroll tax cut 2)tell congress to send me a road construction bill 3) tell congress to come to agreement on trade deals 4) tell congress to reform the patent system 4) tell congress to connect veterans with biz looking for work.

  14. 54 Doris
    August 11, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    This is the “bully pulpit.” Take that Chris Matthews.

  15. 57 GGail
    August 11, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    This is our PRESIDENT at his best! He’s got the Johnson Controls crowd with him! I’m LOVING IT!!!!!!

  16. 58 Doris
    August 11, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Not got to balance the budget on the backs of middle class people in this country. Everybody’s got to do their part. It’s got to be dealt with in a fair way. End gas and oil subsidies and not cut medicare for seniors.

  17. 59 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    We are an AMERICAN FAMILY. No one should bear the entire burden. Everybody has to do their part. Everybody has to chip in. That’s fair. You learned that in kindergarden.

  18. August 11, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Prez says you learn fairness in kindergarten. I think all the tea partiers even missed kindergarten; they’re so stupid.

  19. 62 Doris
    August 11, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Go to get folks back to works. Gonna work on every idea to get folks back to work. Folks are playing political games. We’ve got a long way to go, but that is no excuse for inaction. Stop drawing lines in the sand.

  20. August 11, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Problem is not that we don’t have answers, problem is folks are playing games.

  21. 66 Doris
    August 11, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    The last thing we need is Congress spending more time arguing in DC. They need to be hearing from their constituents and hear their frustrations with all the gridlock and constant bickering, and unwilling to compromise.

  22. 67 Doris
    August 11, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Congress needs to comback and do what they were sent there to do.

  23. 68 Doris
    August 11, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Didn’t vote for a divided government and a do nothing government or beholding to special interests. Put country ahead of party. that’s what I’m fighting for. We have got to find common ground.

  24. 69 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Everybody wants me to call congress back to Washington, D.C. I think congress needs to be home TALKING TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS. Maybe if they listen to you they will come back to Washington D.C. and do their jobs.

    American voted for divided government. But you didn’t vote for dysfunctional government or a do nothing government. You didn’t vote for a government looking our for special interests or for lobbyists.


    Hold everybody accountable. If we come together there is no stopping the American people.


    This speech just took my breath away in its’ brilliance. Just amazing messaging. He totally eviscerated congress by just speaking the truth.

    • 70 Doris
      August 11, 2011 at 3:14 pm

      and the media too. Knocked it out of the park. Thank you Mr. President.

    • 71 theo67
      August 11, 2011 at 5:00 pm

      Thank you so much for the rundown – couldn’t watch this from work today, but you and everyone else’s comments made the speech come alive. Thanks!

  25. August 11, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    PBO: in the aftermath of this debt ceiling debacle, people are asking why don’t I call back congress? … Look, the last thing [we] need is for congress to come back and [bicker, make trouble (something like that)]……. they need to go home and hear from you. Hopefully if they listen hard enough, they’ll come back to Washington, ready to compromise. That’s what I’ll be doing all the coming week.” —crowd applauds.

    • August 11, 2011 at 3:17 pm

      Boom! That is a helluva answer for the MSM whiners.

    • 74 Ladyhawke
      August 11, 2011 at 3:19 pm

      The jackals started this nonsense about President Obama calling congress back to Washington, D.C. because the stock market was bouncing up and down. Actually, as I recall it was Norah O’Donnell and Chuck Todd harping on this stupid idea. As if all President Obama has to do is tell congress what they should do and they would do it.

      I am so glad PBO responded to that question. It was pitch perfect. The problem is that congress is not listening to their constituents. They need to spend August getting an earful about what needs to be done to create jobs.

      • August 11, 2011 at 3:26 pm

        yep. the first person I heard say that crap was Norah and then Tweety Dumbass.

      • 76 Anonymous
        August 11, 2011 at 4:51 pm

        Norah O’Donnell ‘covers’ Boehner. Gee, I remember when covering a particular subject or person meant you did the People’s work by holding them accountable. That only seems to apply to covering the WH and Obama. When you ‘cover’ Boehner, that means you carry his water.


        • 77 Eleroy
          August 12, 2011 at 4:43 am


          The Kelly chick from MSNBC is obviously auditioning for RNC spokeswoman!!!

          I hate these people with every fibre of my body!!!

        • 78 Eleroy
          August 12, 2011 at 4:46 am


          The Kelly chick from MSNBC is obviously auditioning for RNC spokeswoman too!!!

          I hate these people with every fiber of my body!!!

      • 79 nospin
        August 11, 2011 at 5:59 pm

        “The jackals started this nonsense about President Obama calling congress back to Washington, D.C. as I recall it was Norah O’Donnell and Chuck Todd harping on this stupid idea. ”

        two simple reasons – ratings and they are lazy

        What else are they going to report on during the month of August? The only person driving ratings (politically) in the msm at this time is President Obama. They don’t need to spend any time to do research they simply make stuff up.

    • 80 PoliticalJunkessa
      August 11, 2011 at 3:26 pm

      Yeah, the “call Congress back” whine was absolutely ridiculous. Who (besides the media jackals) wanted to see/hear/endure any more noise from those assholes on the Hill? It’s been blessedly quiet since they left town!

  26. 81 Linda
    August 11, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    The person reporting is a Republican slimeball.

  27. 85 GGail
    August 11, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    I’m following this on the local Holland news station and one of the reporters stated that the reason they are covering the President is because this is about our lives, our money, our future! Then there was another reporter who you could tell was from the Boehner camp. He said the applause was not always enthusiastic.

  28. 91 Anonymous
    August 11, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Hope I can see this later. I came in at the tail end, but as usual he was great.

  29. 92 Jackie Bell
    August 11, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    I came in at the last, so missed nearly the whole thing. No doubt he was awesome.

  30. August 11, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    From dan pfieffer’s twitter feed:

    “Key element from today’s remarks — Put Country before Party”

    Now that’s a punchy easy message to communicate.

  31. 97 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    I can’t wait to watch this speech again.

  32. 98 utaustinliberal
    August 11, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Thanks so much guys for your live blogging. Gotta go check this out on cspan now! Looks like it was a call to action bully pulpit speech. Woohoo!

  33. August 11, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    a lady has just called randi saying that exist polling shows that Pasch and Clark won instead of Darling and Olsen. They’re sending out e-mails about it in order to get a call for an independent federal review/investigation.

  34. 104 edp4bho
    August 11, 2011 at 3:44 pm

    Our Prez is sick and tired of the bullshit. I suspect he may exhibit a bit of a pissed Obama, righteously so, but dignified all the same. Imagine having so many sectors against you when you are trying to right a sinking ship, and especially from your supposed base. I’m not even talking about the so-called PLs. I’m talking straight up dems, AAs, CBC jackasses like Conyers and Rangel, each who have their own legal issues (LMAO). Only when PBO gets out among the people does he receive the support he needs to push on. Someone on another pro-Obama site asked if he says this is not about politics, then why does he send his supporters “politicking” congress? This person is somewhat dim, so I say this to say we have these kind of fair-weather supporters, as we know, to have to blast. He needs us to attack because of all the filthy dough rolling around in Red Land. I so wanted him to be just as he was today, and he did not disappoint.

    • August 11, 2011 at 3:52 pm

      For real, Conyers needs to take care of his jailbird wife. Rangel needs to continue trying to stay out of jail.

      • 106 Puddin'
        August 11, 2011 at 4:29 pm

        Amen…I use to like Conyers and Rangel, they are both need shut up and sit down. If they had done their job (for the people who sent them to DC) this country would have been in better shape when PBO walked into the White House…they mean nothing to me…what comes out of their mouths is nothing!

    • 108 criquet
      August 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm

      This person does not hear well. PBO asked for ALL constituents (and he specifically said Democrats, Republicans and Independent) to contact their representative to ask that they compromise and pass legislation that both Democrats and Republicans have endorsed previously to create jobs for Americans across the country.

  35. August 11, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    Sorry for the OT but i wanted to share this very important article with you all that I read at the Peoples View.


    GO PBO!! Kick ass and take names….We all have your back and support!! 🙂

  36. 110 Doris
    August 11, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    PBO is ready to tell the truth. We’ll hear more of this when he hits the campaign trail. Remember, he has to govern from the White House. He can’t deliver these fired up speeches until he is out of DC or the White House, but when he gets on the campaign trail, he can say what he wants. We just have to keep our powder dry. He scared the bejesus out of the Republicans today. 😀

  37. 111 PoliticalJunkessa
    August 11, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Nice to see pics of PBO with the people (especially the babies) again.

  38. 112 tally
    August 11, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Everyone LINK/TWEET/F/EMAIL a link to this page, and DEMAND that EVERYONE WATCH THIS VIDEO.


    Those switchboards & servers need to crash today!!!

    Love when POTUS IS ON FIRE and preaching EPIC TRUTH!!!!

    • 113 theo67
      August 11, 2011 at 5:06 pm

      YOU are on fire, Tally. It’s great seeing you rally everyone – the ball is now rolling.

    • August 11, 2011 at 8:58 pm

      once again, you absolutely ROCK Tally! I think I already said that today once,.Youalways seem to say what i am thinking …your enthusiasm just jumps off the screen!

  39. August 11, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    I got back just in time to hear the President speak and he was right on. I am so looking forward to the bus tour.

  40. 116 Fred
    August 11, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Inside Edition is about to talk about a new “controversy” on the death of OBL that might impact the President and the elections 🙄

  41. 146 Bobfr
    August 11, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    It’s simple as well as ironic – the one path the Republicans could follow that might actually enable them to avoid massive losses in Congress and throughout State governments is the path that President Obama has offered to them and has been offering to them since Jan 2009. Put Country before party. Get stuff done via bipartisan commitment to the middle class.

    The fact that Republicans reject that path is a massive fail – politically – for them.

    What we are witnessing in the President today is what we all knew he would do at the right time and his timing is perfect – politically as well as being sound policy.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • 147 theo67
      August 11, 2011 at 5:15 pm

      This should be a good lesson for all those who have been screaming that the President needed to pound the podium and scream for them. He does things in his own time, and it’s usually at the right time.

      I always wonder how these people would operate under these conditions – with uninformed people constantly critiquing every move and every emotion. A smaller person would have crumbled a long time ago. And it doesn’t even matter that most of these people have been proven wrong time and again – but they still offer their “expert” opinions on how President Obama should be President Obama. I trust him to be able to be himself just fine.

  42. 150 Linda
    August 11, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Luke Russert=Nostradumbass

  43. August 11, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Wasn’t able to hear his speech 😦 😦 so thanks loads for blogging it. Will try to listen later. My laptop (and therefore good audio) is working off and on (DSL problems). Thanks again. He was definitely “on fire.” Wonder if Tweety will even mention it?????

    • August 11, 2011 at 4:38 pm

      It was a GREAT speech!

    • 161 carol in ky
      August 11, 2011 at 5:53 pm

      His show is 1/2 over and all he’s talked about is the Repugs in Iowa. Now he’s showing a trend line showing the president’s
      approval rating is going down. Talking with Joan Walsh so you know it’ll be negative. So far Tweety hasn’t mentioned the
      speech and how great he was today. Ugh!

  44. 162 Sue
    August 11, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    Fired up ready to go!!

  45. August 11, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Great Speech!!!

    I have written my MO representatives as well as Speaker Boehner, Leader Pelosi, and Senator Reid outlining the specifics that the president asked for in this speech!

  46. 164 Debz
    August 11, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    I have to mention that I was watching the local video when PBO landed at Ford and I must say when he was walking to Marine 1 all that swagger almost made me faint.

    • 165 theo67
      August 11, 2011 at 5:24 pm

      What station were you watching? I could do with a fainting spell… Maybe they’ve got video. 🙂

    • August 11, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      Oh yes, Debz. He had it on for sure. Like take this you clowns. I am the President, and I will be the President again come election night 2012. You can nicely swag you lovely self to Marine One and AirForce One any damn day you want. (Excuse me, I am a little pissed today) I have to pray and ask for a lot of forgiveness tonight., for sure.

  47. 169 Fred
    August 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Can someone please send this to dan pfieffer’s twitter feed?

    Watchdogs File Complaints Against Two More Pro-Romney ‘Phantom Companies’

  48. August 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Randi Rhodes in regards to the repug debate tonight, hopefully “Pawlenty shows up with a spine, Hunstman with a pulse, Bachmann with a brain….it will be as exciting as watching spray tan dry on [John] Boner’s face.”
    hehehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehhehehehehehhehehehehehehe!!! I love Randi 😆 😆 😆

    • 175 COS
      August 11, 2011 at 5:30 pm

      I love Randi but I really wish she would stop playing that Dylan Ratigan rant. I can’t stand him. Anyone can rant like that, but it loses something when one goes postal like he did.

      • August 11, 2011 at 5:40 pm

        I can’t stand Ratigan either. I think he’s crazy.

        • 177 ChristiMtl
          August 11, 2011 at 6:35 pm

          He is crazy! Always huffing and puffing like a lunatic and he’s the biggest corporate tool there is.

      • 178 theo67
        August 11, 2011 at 5:43 pm

        I had to mute that rant today, too. Dylan Ratigan is ranting because he’s worried about all the trillions being “extracted” from the country. He’s not ranting because people are being shafted, or that the 99ers are going hungry, or that rights are being stripped from the working class. He could care less about that. He’s just worried about money. He’s a Wall Street tool.

        Plus, the ideas he’s ranting about are President Obama’s ideas and/or have also been on the Democratic agenda for years.

    • 179 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 11, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      LMAO!!! Groovy!! 😆

  49. 180 theo67
    August 11, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    So, while Mitt was busy telling people that they are less important than corporations, President Obama was busy telling people that they are the most important group that Congress needs to listen to.

    Also, Mitt was asked what he would do to protect entitlements, and he answered by saying what he wouldn’t do: Raise taxes. Once again, Republicans show that they are all reading from the same playbook – same failed policies, same failed ideology. If I hear one more person tell me that President Obama is in trouble if all situations aren’t improved (even though the goalposts keep getting moved), I will scream. If all situations aren’t resolved, President Obama should be scared that the American people will vote in the very people who caused the problems and haven’t done a thing to fix the problems or suggest ways to fix the problems? President Obama should be scared that the American people will vote in the same people who have telegraphed (and executed) their intentions to take away the rights of workers, women, children and minorities, bankrupt the country, destroy the country’s reputation and credit worthiness, eliminate the agencies that are designed to protect people (EPA, CFPA, Dept of Education, etc), balance the budget on the backs of working people and seniors, and eliminate any future voting rights of the average American? If this is true, then this country is in really serious trouble.

    • August 11, 2011 at 5:28 pm

      i hope during their stupid debates tonight the gloves finally come off and they go at each other like the cannibals they are.

      • 182 theo67
        August 11, 2011 at 5:40 pm

        They’re not going to go after each other because all the candidates aren’t in the pool yet. And they’re all advocating the same policies, so all they have is slinging insults at each other.

      • 183 Debz
        August 11, 2011 at 5:49 pm

        If any of them were going after each other, they should have started by now. They have all been too busy attacking POTUS.
        Why else is Romney so sure that he is the nominee, he’s been running a general election campaign instead of a primary.

    • 184 COS
      August 11, 2011 at 5:36 pm

      These candidates only know how to complain about PBO, but when it comes to solutions, they are lost. I hope more are challenged. While he is raising money off a fake ad as to whether he is weird, he should get some solution talking points. I can see right now, that SS, Medicare and Medicaid are going to be hot button issues in this campaign. Bachmann actually lied and said that PBO told her in the White House that he was cutting medicare. This huge lie coming from an Evangelical Christian woman. Sad.

    • 185 Ladyhawke
      August 11, 2011 at 6:06 pm

      This is just hilarious, you can’t make this stuff up. Too funny. Somebody tell FOX that turnabout is fair play. Poor widdle Mitt Romney was ambushed today by regular folk. But alas, he is a victim of an angry mob. What will we do, what will we do?? Is there a fainting couch near by?

      After Supporting Tea Party Protests, Fox News Accuses Iowans From ‘Liberal Think Tank’ Of ‘Ambushing’ Romney

      Earlier today, former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) faced angry questions from Iowans over his proposed cuts to entitlement programs. In an attempt to dismiss the legitimate concerns of the questioners, Fox News declared them to be liberal plants. During the segment, the conservative news outlet displayed a chyron on-screen that read, “Liberal Activists Ambush Mitt Romney At Iowa Event.”

      Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly then blasted the episode as an “altercation” between Romney and “liberal activists:”

      These folks who were doing the confrontation, these protestors were from the Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement, which is described as a liberal think tank. They got there early. They positioned themselves in front of the crowd. They got a few questions into Romney. Do you think we’re going to be seeing more of that? You know, people who have a defined agenda from the average citizen showing up at these events.



      • 186 57andFemale
        August 11, 2011 at 6:39 pm

        We need to do this. If everyone here goes to at least one town hall, we’ll keep control of the narrative.

        And boy, did he look and sound ridiculous. The jackass was born with a platinum spoon in his mouth, he’s done nothing but run for President for the last 5 years and he’s still one of the worst campaigners ever.

        You will now see him surrounded by sycophants so he can deliver his scripted remarks.

        This is something we don’t tout enough about our President: he faces people, real American people. No scripted events, like Bush, with only supporters.

      • 187 GGail
        August 11, 2011 at 7:42 pm

        Good report Ladyhawke! I’m gonna look into whether we here in California have a group like this. Then I will check out where the repug town hall meetings will be held and join them. 🙂

      • 188 Sue in Minnesota
        August 11, 2011 at 9:36 pm

        At least our ‘mob’ didn’t stomp on his neck! How do I develope tolerance for this crap? I can’t even bring myself to watch these asshats debate. Palin and Perry should be required to debate. In fact any candidate that doesn’t participate in the debates should not be eligible to run for office. Seems to me they have already given us insights into their unwillingness to be forthright.

  50. 189 Doris
    August 11, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Wow, thanks Chips for the video pictures! 😀

  51. 190 Fred
    August 11, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Carol Marin and that other heffa on NBC5 both Pumas looked all proud of themselves when announcing that Orange (Boehner) was flying in for a fundraiser for the Illinois Gop 🙄

    • 191 theo67
      August 11, 2011 at 6:09 pm

      Of course – no calls for Boehner to stop fundraising or to call in the House to work on jobs, I presume…?

    • 192 57andFemale
      August 11, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      Do NOT diss Carol Marin — she’s one of the few honest reporters left in Chicago. Announcing the fundraiser would be news — it doesn’t make her a PUMA. If there’s something I don’t know about her, let me know. I’ll stay reality-based.

  52. 193 Linda
    August 11, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Breaking News !!!! WooWoo

    Elizabeth Warren Gearing Up For Senate Run, Announcement To Come Post Labor Day


    Sorry for the HP link…

    • 194 maritza
      August 11, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      I am not going to click on that link.

    • 196 COS
      August 11, 2011 at 6:25 pm

      YEAH!!!!!!!!!! I am donating big time. I want wishy washy Scott Brown gone.

      • 197 Ladyhawke
        August 11, 2011 at 6:36 pm

        I am doing my happy dance. This is really great news. Elizabeth Warren is the epitome of what it means to be a dedicated public servant. The American people could not ask for a better advocate. The more the American people get to see of EW the better. She speaks plainly and clearly. She just makes sense.

    • 198 57andFemale
      August 11, 2011 at 6:34 pm

      I love her, absolutely love her. But has she ever run for office? I really have my doubts about her as a candidate. I have no doubts about her as a Senator, but running for Senator in a big state like MA for her first office — I have my fears.

    • 200 GGail
      August 11, 2011 at 7:03 pm

      That’s good news Linda, but I’m not gonna click on that link. Maybe you can give us a synopsis.

  53. August 11, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Anybody joined twitter in the last week? If so, please let us know your twitter names so we can follow you.

  54. 206 ChristiMtl
    August 11, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    I can see on twitter than Puma Joan Walsh is at it again.

    ‘President Obama’s compromiser routine is wearing thin.’

    Anyone who didn’t send her something on twitter, please do…she blocked me.

    Don’t forget to boycott MSNBC sponsors! and let them know why you want buy their products. Enough with the lies about the President.

  55. 211 Fred
    August 11, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    so let me get this straight.The “base” of the President are Cornell West and Tavis Smiley? ain’t that a bitch! and i won’t apologize but who appointed them the President’s “base” ? They’ve appointed themselves “leaders” of black folks without asking any of us permission now they are THE de facto”base” too? 🙄 That chick on Bryan Williams show propped them up when saying that the “base” is “lashing out” at the President because of his “lack” of leadership.
    Lawd forgive me but someone quiet them for fucking good.

    • August 11, 2011 at 6:47 pm

      If you look at Cornflake’s twitter page, his byline is “1 of America’s most provocative public intellectuals” OMG, what a buffoon.

      • August 11, 2011 at 7:08 pm

        Those two will self-destruct and will go at each other. Tavis’ M.O. is that he tends to sever business relationships unceremoniously. Won’t be long.

    • 214 COS
      August 11, 2011 at 6:49 pm

      I just saw on FB that Blitzer is asking whether Hillary would have been a better President than PBO? This is shameful. They are trying their best to take this great president down.

      • 215 Linda
        August 11, 2011 at 6:53 pm

        I grew up in the same neighborhood a Wolf……His real name is ” Leslie “…he tries to deny it , I think he legally changed it. He was a creepy kid…

      • August 11, 2011 at 6:53 pm

        Blitzer can go fuck himself. He needs to be asking where his next job is gonna be. CNN is complete shit and hopefully won’t be around for much longer. Maybe he needs to ask if Anderson Cooper would do a better job in his time slot than he does. Piss off, Wolf. 😡

      • 225 theo67
        August 11, 2011 at 9:43 pm

        For the media,it’s personal. Just like with the GOP. They could care less how many people are left without solutions or help, or whether the country goes down in flames. They just want to destroy President Obama – at any cost. I don’t recall a single media person asking whether Al Gore or any other Republican would be a better president than Bush. And most of those media, including and especially Wolf/Leslie, don’t even know what President Obama has accomplished. None. These people make me sick. How do they think this looks to the rest of the world?

  56. 226 dotster
    August 11, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    In another entry in the “you can’t make this stuff up” overflowing box, I see my most horrific teabagger congressman, Joe Walsh, said to FOXNews today, “It’s pathetic. I’ve never seen a president who refuses to accept responsibility for anything.” This is the Joe Walsh who is being sued by his ex-wife for over $117,000 in back child support for his 3 kids, who did not list this liability on his financial disclosure forms as required by law and congressional ethics rules, whose whole past life is full of financial and personal irresponsibility—-lots of DUIs, bankruptcy, losing home to foreclosure etc. How dumb do you have to be to go on teevee to make a false claim of irresponsibility about President Obama when your whole life is defined by irresponsibility.

    • August 11, 2011 at 6:50 pm

      We are in twilight zone territory.

    • August 11, 2011 at 6:50 pm

      this guy has no credibility, he’s got nothing to say that sane people want to hear. he better enjoy his 15 minutes as much as possible because he’s gonna be a one termer. The Teahadists have lost their bloom, according to America.

    • August 11, 2011 at 7:40 pm

      This just show you how dumb and stupid Joe Walsh is. He have the nerve to talk about someone not taking responsibility for anything. Has her been taking responsibility for his three kids? His deadbeat self.

  57. August 11, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    I don’t want to link Fox..but,yesterday,Andrew Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants, Carl’s Jr.’s parent company told Neil Cavuto of Fox..That Obama and the Democrats. He claimed that Obama had no plan to reduce the national debt. He blamed Obama for the credit rating downgrade.Obama is to blame for company being discourage to hire. Blamed him for ObamaCare.

    They moved their Headquarters from California to TExas (Perry’s hometown). While he blames Obama for everything that’s going wrong, his company had 34% increase in profits last year. Anyone that wants to fight back, It’s time to he hears from us…and boycott Carl’s Jr..and see how he would like to see his profits Drop to Minus -34%..

    Here’s a link of CKE/Carl’s Jr. contact info.


    Thank you

  58. 235 Linda
    August 11, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    UPDATE: 6:00 p.m. — A national Democratic source adds a little more color to the decision making going on with Warren.

    “She is spending several hours today making calls around the state, governor, lieutenant governor, congressional delegation, party leaders, and grassroots activists,” the source emailed. “The calls will continue for the next couple of days so she can have as many personal conversations as possible. She will start traveling early next week doing one on one meetings, small group get togethers, all very casual.”

    As for why Warren waited until now to begin reaching out to state officials, the source noted that she was previously restricted from doing so under the Hatch Act: “She needed to completely wrap up her work [with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau] before starting to make Massachusetts political calls.”

    • August 11, 2011 at 7:47 pm

      Jury is still out on how she’ll be on the stump and if she can capture excitement to get out the volunteers. I’d probably give her a 25% chance right now – she’s not nearly as well known to the regular folk as she is in our circles – she really eeds to get her name out and work her but off for the next 15 months. I saw she is teaching one class the first semester at Harvard, so she’ll be pretty much off the campaign trail until the new year. It will be interesting what happens in the primary – will Dems try and clear the deck for her? One of Setti Warrens top staffers jumped to Elizabeth Warren’s campaign already. Will people think it’s the same woman who ran against Brown last time running again? How will she be in attacking rivals? Will she go hard after Brown? Will she allow Brown to frame her? What are her politics outside of consumer protection? Abortion? War? Guns? Immigration? Taxes? Unions? Spending?

      I hope she wins and am glad she’s running because it will give the nutroots something positive to focus their energies and money on. I can’t believe one of the House Reps were willing to take on Brown. We need a bulldog for a campaigner – somebody who will challenge Brown on every one of his party line votes he made over the last year and a half. How he liked to play the regular guy who drives a truck, but likes hobnobbing asking the Koch’s for money.

      Can Warren run competitively if she forsakes all corporate money and tries to rally small donors? Brown is going to have a $25M war chest. She’ll need at least $15M. Nutroots and Unions raised near $10M to primary challenge Lincoln with Bill Halter – could they raise that money again for Warren?

      • 237 theo67
        August 11, 2011 at 9:47 pm

        I have a feeling Pres Obama and VP Biden may stump for her. They want that seat back. It doesn’t belong in Republican hands – that’s a travesty. (We might even see the ladies Obama and Biden come out for her, too). Maybe even a Kennedy or two. I think once she gets out there, she’ll be fine.

  59. August 11, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Argh. Fareed Zakaria Drew Westen and Jonathan Chait are on Charlie Rose tonight. I hope Zacharia and Chait slam Westen for his nonsense.

    • 240 Ladyhawke
      August 11, 2011 at 8:02 pm

      thanks for the heads up meta. I really like Fareed Zakaria. I think he is the only “real” journalist on CNN. I hope Charlie Rose will allow the guests to answer questions without being interrupted. I find that so annoying.

      • August 11, 2011 at 8:09 pm

        Way back in the day, Charlie used to be a good interviewer but he really sux now. Constantly pushing his own agenda and always has lots of right-winger guests. One of my closest friends was his editor for awhile and I got to visit the studio @Bloomberg. Very interesting place.

        • 242 Eleroy
          August 12, 2011 at 5:45 am

          At the end of the day even if nobody is willing to say it, this is about the good ole white boys sticking together!!!

          With President Obama in the WH, for these people, it is no longer about allegiance to democratic principles as much as it is about a discomfort with the guy who is considered “other”!!!

          Blitzer, Matthews, O’reilly, Rose, Scheiffer, Ratigan, Shuster, and even the womenfolk.

          Barbara Walters for instance desperately craves a sleep over at the at the WH and Peggy Noonan craves relevance as an a speech writing advisor, Arianna just wants to have direct access to a repub. WH and only for the purposes of exploiting it for money!!!

  60. August 11, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Iowa debate is tonight. I’ll try and catch the highlights – this could be Pawlenty’s last stand already, so it will be interesting to see him come out swinging and who he swings at – Bachmann as his main competition in Iowa, Romney as the front runner and to show he can attack somebody to their face? Or will it be just a panel bashing President Obama non-stop? Will anybody take pre-emptive shots at Perry?

    • 244 COS
      August 11, 2011 at 8:05 pm

      I will have to watch the highlights also. I refuse to watch Fox. I am sure Randi Rhodes will discuss it tomorrow on her show.

  61. 245 GGail
    August 11, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Tonight’s Repug debate is only being shown on FoxNews?

    Fox News, the Washington Examiner and the Iowa Republican Party are sponsoring the debate, which kicks off at 9 p.m. ET.

    Watch the 2012 presidential debate Thursday live on Fox News and on FoxNews.com. Coverage will start at 8:45 pm ET at http://live.foxnews.com.

    • August 11, 2011 at 8:40 pm

      yup as they are hosting it. Fox news own the GOPoopers. 😐
      ps- don’t think I can stomach it. Not gonna watch. It’s thursday? (I’m trying to figure out Thursday night line up)…….. after Lawry I’ll switch to Disney. 😐
      pps- GGail, you’ve got a caste iron stomach, love. I got $10 that says as you are watching the debacle–sorry, debate—tonight, you’ll be yelling up a storm and cursing at you’re tele screen. 🙂 tehe 🙂

      • 247 GGail
        August 11, 2011 at 9:03 pm

        tehehehehe, I’m tuning up my voice now Lisa. I’m not promising that I’ll be able to stay through the whole debacle, I’m mean debate. Pray for me gurl!

        • August 11, 2011 at 9:14 pm

          hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhaahahahaha! Your poor voice box. get some chamomile and honey ready, GGail. 🙂

          • 249 GGail
            August 11, 2011 at 9:29 pm

            This is for you Lisa! http://my.barackobama.com/GOP-Debate-Watch

            You probably weren’t planning to watch Fox News tonight. But right now, the Republicans are holding their first Iowa debate. I’m tuning in — and you should, too.

            What we’re seeing unfold on their side is a race to the right, where it’s becoming difficult to distinguish the candidates from each other — and from the Tea Party Republicans in Congress. I suspect that tonight it will become even more clear that this whole group is way out of the mainstream.

            We’ve put together a helpful guide to a few of the more fascinating positions they’ve taken. Over the course of the night, we’ll be paying close attention to what these candidates say — and what they don’t say. Will they backtrack? Will they double down? Will they hope we forget? Check it out, and pass it on:


            Keep this page open as you watch the debate — we’ll be keeping score of the candidates’ statements and misstatements, and asking folks to share what happens with their friends on Facebook and Twitter.

            Tune in to the the debate now.

            More to come,


            Jim Messina
            Campaign Manager
            Obama for America

            This campaign isn’t funded by Washington lobbyists or corporate interests. We rely on donations from people like you. You should donate today.

  62. 253 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    August 11, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Lets not have any expectations of the BIG THREE beating each other up. I’m referring to Romney, Bachmann, and soon to be Perry. All their rhetoric and venom will be directed at PBO. I would hope for World War III between these can candidates, but they will be more interested in not damaging their own candidacies. Remember the entire GOP obsession is to get rid of PBO. No fireworks folks. No knock down drag out fights like PBO vs Hilary in 2008. I gaurantee it. No one wants to be weakened for the General. 😦

    • August 11, 2011 at 8:35 pm

      I think Perry plays for keeps. Remember the dirty tricks Bush used against McCain in 2000 – will be much of the same. The Politico article about Obama campaign using “weird” as a code for “Mormon” is likely pushed by Perry’s campaign in order to be able to claim their eventual anti-Mormon whisper campaign is really coming from the Obama people.

      Pawlenty has to swing at the folks he’s on the stage with, because if he doesn’t after being called out as a wimp for passing on the opportunity last time his campaign could be finished. His problem is that Bachmann is so damn tiny, that it will seem bullying almost – and when she fires back she’ll be the plucky fighter who will not back down.

  63. 256 donna dem 4 obama
    August 11, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Just popping in TOD Fam. I wanted to thank you all for the wonderful Birthday Wishes earlier today. My cup overflows.

    I am Birthday Party Pooped 🙂

  64. August 11, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Great to hear about Elizabeth Warren’s potential run — I so hope she does it. Not only do I think she would win, I think she would be an excellent, strong voice for the middle class and working people during her campaign. She has a lot to say, and she’s not scared to say it.

  65. 270 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    All you need to know about Gov Perry’s State (Texas)

    Click to access texasonthebrink.pdf

  66. August 11, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Lawry put Stephen Colbert in the rewrite over his super pac and tv ad from last night….. Lawry said he felt duped by the ad cause he thought it was real. ( I think he’s being ironically funny).

  67. 276 utaustinliberal
    August 11, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Why the heck is Lawrence calling Stephen Colbert a liar and lambasting his Super PAC. He’s really really insulting Stephen.

    • August 11, 2011 at 8:52 pm

      I didn’t know what he was doing. was he trying to use dry humor or what. that’s why upthread that I thought he was trying to be ironically funny, then he replayed the ad. Hm……

      • 278 utaustinliberal
        August 11, 2011 at 9:07 pm

        I woke up from a 3 hour nap (Haha… 3hr nap.. more like deep sleep) and saw the rewrite. I was really puzzled and thought I was in an alternate universe. So I tweeted my puzzlement. So far everyones been tweeting me back telling me that it was Lawrence’s attempt at Colbert style humor. I don’t think it really worked. But ok.

        • 279 Doris
          August 11, 2011 at 9:13 pm

          LOL, me too, I slept for about 2 hours, and woke up and saw the rewrite. I’m not sure what he meant, but like you said, oh well.

    • 280 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 11, 2011 at 9:10 pm

      ummm……………………$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ He is at the mercy of his corporate MASTERS!!

  68. 281 Bobfr
    August 11, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Just received this email from Jim Messina – many of you probably did, as well.


    He’s just way too clever … and it’s only August 2011! Game on, for sure.

    Friend —

    You probably weren’t planning to watch Fox News tonight. But right now, the Republicans are holding their first Iowa debate. I’m tuning in — and you should, too.

    What we’re seeing unfold on their side is a race to the right, where it’s becoming difficult to distinguish the candidates from each other — and from the Tea Party Republicans in Congress. I suspect that tonight it will become even more clear that this whole group is way out of the mainstream.

    We’ve put together a helpful guide to a few of the more fascinating positions they’ve taken. Over the course of the night, we’ll be paying close attention to what these candidates say — and what they don’t say. Will they backtrack? Will they double down? Will they hope we forget? Check it out, and pass it on:


    Keep this page open as you watch the debate — we’ll be keeping score of the candidates’ statements and misstatements, and asking folks to share what happens with their friends on Facebook and Twitter.

    Tune in to the the debate now.

    More to come,


    Jim Messina
    Campaign Manager
    Obama for America

    This campaign isn’t funded by Washington lobbyists or corporate interests. We rely on donations from people like you.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • August 11, 2011 at 9:19 pm

      hahahahahahahahahahaha! Jim is pretty awesome! Now, what should I do? Comply with Jim’s request like the good little Obot I am or keep on watching Home Alone 2 on Disney. Hm…….. decisions, decisions. 😐
      ps- no joking. seriously, I can’t decide.

      • 283 Bobfr
        August 11, 2011 at 9:27 pm

        That’s indeed a tough choice 😉

        If you’ve got a bunch of popcorn and a strong drink (or two or three) then go with Jim’s suggestion … otherwise I’d stick with Disney 😀


        Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

        • August 11, 2011 at 9:38 pm

          nope, no popcorn and my liquor quota (as specified by my friends) was filled earlier this evening. Gosh, just because you like to drink wine, regardless of the time of day doesn’t make you a lush! I’m sure it’s 5 pm somewhere. 😕 So……. looks like Disney wins.

    • 285 Ladyhawke
      August 11, 2011 at 9:34 pm

      Think Progress is live blogging the debate. They are providing the outlandish responses to questions and debunking many of them at the same time. Some of the commentary is hilarious. That chart from the Obama-Biden 2012 campaign about where the GOP presidential candidates stand on certain issues is just brilliant. Looks like Rick Perry is stealing everybody’s thunder with his strategically placed leaks and announcements.


    • 287 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 11, 2011 at 9:44 pm

      Gotta luv the Obama campaign team. 😎

  69. 289 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Here are some Highlights of the Debate..for those who don’t want give Fox a click:-)

    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich just turned on Fox News questioner, Chris Wallace. Asked whether his sagging campaign showed he would be an ineffective leader, Gingrich referred back to Wallace’s colleague, Brett Baier, who opened with a call for throwing away talking points.

    “I took seriously Brett’s injunction to put aside the talking points,” Gingrich said. “And i wish you would put aside the Gotcha questions.”

    He then compared himself to Ronald Reagan.

    Former MN Governor Tim Pawlenty has been on combative form in the first part of the Fox Debate. Fresh from biffing Romney for having a large lawn, he took on his MN competitor Michele Bachmann. Pushing back against her argument that she was a fighter, he said all the fights she’d taken on had resulted in failure. “She says she’s got a titanium spine,” he told the crowd. “And that’s fine. But it’s not her spine we’re worried about; it’s her record of effective results.”

    Former MN Governor Tim Pawlenty threw the first punch against frontrunner Mitt Romney. Asking rhetorically whether anyone could find him firm economic plans by President Obama, he said:

    “If you can find barack obama’s specific plan on any of those items, i will come to your house and cook you dinner.” After a brief pause he continued: “Or if you prefer, i’ll come over to your house and mow your lawn — but in case Mitt [Romney] wins, i’ll limit it to one acre.”

    This drew cheers and jeers from the audience. Romney laughed and replied, “That’s just fine.”

  70. 295 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    The Fox News presenter opened by “respectfully” asking the candidates to “put aside the talking points” tonight. No luck so far. Bachmann took the first question and after falsely claiming that her opposition to raising the Debt Ceiling would have helped the economy, she then launched into her now-common campaign cry “Let’s make Obama a One – Term – President!!!!”

    Brett Baier asked President Obama’s former ambassador to China, Jon Huntsman, why his campaign website had no economic plan.

    Huntsman replied that the plan was coming, but if you wanted to know what he would do, you just had to look at what he had done as Governor of Utah, where, he noted, zinging President Obama, he had maintained a Triple A credit rating.

  71. 296 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Herman Cain was asked by the Fox News panel about his public embrace of President Obama’s mocking comments that conservatives wanted to build a moat with alligators along the U.S.-Mexican border, and whether this lessened his own seriousness as a candidate. Cain fired back, winning applause with this line: “America has got to learn how to take a joke.”

  72. August 11, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    OMG, people. Twitter is making me cry I’m laughing so hard. OMG.

  73. 298 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Former MA Governor Mitt Romney is bound to get more questions along these lines as the campaign continues. The questioner asked him about his record of having raised taxes as Governor, and having boasted about that to S&P when he was trying to get them to raise the state’s credit rating. Romney’s response was to deny everything: “I cut taxes 19 times as Governor and didn’t raise taxes. I was fortunate enough to be a governor who got an increase in our credit rating.” He then drew a contrast to what had happened to America’s rating under President Obama.

  74. 299 P
    August 11, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    I listened to a piece of the President’s speech before I left today. This man clearly wants to make a positive impact on his country but Congress is set out to make sure he fails. PBO keep the faith hun. Despite all the obstacles we the people love you and is supporting you 100%.
    Pic 2 for some reason turns me on……that’s a fine ass President!!!!!!!

  75. 300 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    God Bless him…While he’s out there working hard for the people…Congress is out probably in some yacht or laying at the beach and couldn’t careless if this country goes to dust.. I sure hope people get to see how GOOD of a man he is…His goodness shines in his smile..and his AWESOMENESS. i HAVE A QUESTION?…I know he wants us to call congress, but if they on vacation…who are we supposed to call?

    I am ready to call all of them.

  76. 301 lamh34
    August 11, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    jeez, why don’t Bachmann and Pawlenty just get it over with and shag already!!!

  77. 303 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    It seems the deficit “super committee” is kryptonite to Newt Gingrich. Asked about this compromise that came out of the debt deal, the former House Speaker called it “about as dumb an idea as Washington has come up with.” He said that in Thanksgiving the House would be presented with the choice of taking their recommendations or triggering across-the-board cuts. He said that was a bit like them asking: “We can shoot you in the head or cut off your right leg; which do you prefer?” He suggested that instead all the sub-committees should be tasked with finding savings.

  78. 304 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    LOL @ Pawlenty

    Fox News host Chris Wallace asked Tim Pawlenty to repeat his criticism of the federal health insurance mandate as “Obamneycare” — an attack on Mitt Romney and Massachusetts health care reform, which he infamously failed to repeat to Romney’s face at the previous debate two months ago. “I don’t want to miss that chance again, Chris,” Pawlenty told Chris Wallace. “Mitt, look, Obamacare was patterned after Mitt’s plan in Massachusetts, and for Mitt or anyone else to say there aren’t substantial similarities or they aren’t the same plan, it just isn’t credible. So that’s why I called it Obamneycare, and i’m glad to call it that again tonight.”

  79. 309 Asher in Boston
    August 11, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Dear Family & Friends,
    Prayer is what it’s going to take…

    Folks, If you have not noticed…few Presidents have ever worked this hard for our country, having to deal with such hatred and ill-will. Many wonder, does he ever sleep? Only God can sustain such energy, knowledge and person.. Will you please join in this prayer?

    Let’s keep this going!


    We pray for optimum health, mental clarity and political prosperity for President Barack H. Obama. We pray that what he lacks in political ‘experience’ you make up for with supernatural wisdom and power.

    We also pray that when his enemies come upon him they will stumble and fall; and that your love will fill his heart to the end that ‘Your will’ be done through him.

    We pray mightily for his protection, as we plead the Blood of your son, Jesus, over him and his family. We reverently ask you to dispatch legions of angels to protect them from all hurt, harm, danger as he serves as the President of the United States of America .

    We thank you and praise you for answering our sincere prayers, in Jesus’s precious name,


    All you are asked to do is keep this circulating if you are so inclined.
    May God bless and keep you

    Always Reach for Perfection. You May Just Land on Excellence.

    If you change the way you look at things the things you look at will change.

    You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have.

    Yesterday is the past. Tomorrow is the future. Today
    is a GIFT, that is why it is called the PRESENT.

    Making the simple complicated is easy.
    Making the complicated simple requires
    extreme CREATIVITY.

    Help enough people get what they want
    And you automatically get what you want.

    Work to achieve, NOT to acquire.

    Ooops meant to copy the link, my bad.

  80. 312 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:05 pm


    Fox News comes back from a commercial break and there’s one empty podium: Michele Bachmann’s. The host notices this, and pretty soon she wanders back in.

  81. 314 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Oh it is so much fun to see the Obama-Biden 2012 campaign update the scoreboard. There is some backtracking being documented.

    Jon Huntsman



    “You are a remarkable leader,” in a private note to the President, with “remarkable” underlined.



    There has been zero leadership in Washington.”

  82. 317 Esmerelda
    August 11, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Thank you for the updates. I’m not going to watch the debate, it would probably make me sick. Can anybody seriously imagine any of these people as President?

    • 318 Ladyhawke
      August 11, 2011 at 10:24 pm

      The thought of any of them being elected officials of the United States government is horrifying. They are like a bunch of misfits. And to think that Rick Perry is throwing his 10 gallon hat into the ring on Saturday.

    • 319 Kasai
      August 11, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      You welcome Esmerelda

  83. 320 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Mitt Romney drew a contrast between “Romneycare” and “Obamacare” by claiming that whereas Obamacare was unconstitutional because it meant the Federal government was compelling an individual citizen to purchase something, Romneycare was fine because it was only the State requiring a resident to do so. Cue lots of laying on from the other candidates as they tried to square that with their respect for States’ Rights and the 10th Amendments. Rick Santorum was probably the most vehement. He wondered whether under this interpretation of States’ Rights it meant “if the states want to pass polygamy that’s fine?” He went on to say that the 10th Amendment didn’t give states the right to “tramp over” basic morality.

    • 321 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 11, 2011 at 10:42 pm

      I posted upstream that the Rethugs would fight with pillows. No one is really taking any BIG BLOWS at each other. Again…………they don’t want to beat each other up. I am telling you listen to Bachmann……..she proclaimed it again……………..LETS MAKE OBAMA A ONE TERM PRESIDENT!! They can’t do that if they beat each other up before the GENERAL. Mark my words it will be PILLOW FIGHTS from here on out which means Romney or Perry will be the nominee. 😕

      • August 11, 2011 at 10:55 pm

        Romney or Perry will be the nominee regardless of pillow fights or not. And regardless if they go at each other – they all sound batshit insane and are forcing each other to go further and further right.

        None would support a plan that was 10-to-1 cuts to tax increase? Really?

  84. 324 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Newt Gingrich isn’t really endearing himself to his hosts tonight. Asked about whether his thinking had developed on the situation in Libya, he said “This is another example of a ‘Gotcha!’ question.” The questioners did not agree.

  85. 326 COS
    August 11, 2011 at 10:13 pm


    Obama fundraises with celebrities

    08/11/11 By POLITICO STAFF

    “This is a pretty good looking crowd,” Obama said at a New York fundraiser Thursday night.

    When the guest list includes names like Gwyneth Paltrow, her husband Chris Martin, Jimmy Fallon, Vera Wang, Anna Wintour and Alicia Keys, the president could be accused of understatement.

    Hundreds of people packed the streets of the West Village and police marksmen stood on rooftops as Obama arrived at the residence of media mogul Harvey Weinstein, according to pool reports.

    The president addressed about 50 guests who sat in tables of ten. Tickets were $35,800 according to a Democratic official, with the first $5000 of each ticket going to the Obama Victory Fund and the rest to the DNC. The president earlier had addressed a small, separate gathering of 15 at the Ritz Carlton hotel.

    The president spoke on debt, the economy and his reelection campaign, and commented on his own lack of cool factor with the electorate this time around.

    “They have still got the Obama poster, it is all frayed. Obama is gray haired, he doesn’t seem as cool,” he said. “In some ways that is a healthy thing. Because in 2012… we realize it is about us.. It is not about my election. One person.”

  86. 330 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    t seems the deficit “super committee” is kryptonite to Newt Gingrich. Asked about this compromise that came out of the debt deal, the former House Speaker called it “about as dumb an idea as Washington has come up with.” He said that in Thanksgiving the House would be presented with the choice of taking their recommendations or triggering across-the-board cuts. He said that was a bit like them asking: “We can shoot you in the head or cut off your right leg; which do you prefer?”

    He suggested that instead all the sub-committees should be tasked with find

    • 331 GGail
      August 12, 2011 at 12:02 am

      Alan Simpson was on the last sub-committee that managed to balance the budget. Hmmmm, I wonder what he would say about Newt’s comment????? Mr. Simpson encourages this sub-committee to use his Bowles-Simpson Proposal as a guideline to help balance the budget.

  87. 332 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Pressed on Foreign Policy, MN Governor Tim Pawlenty said America would need a lot more of “that good work you saw with some of those Iranian scientists on their way to work.” He was, of course, referring to the mysterious assassinations that have taken place recently. Slightly later he suggested that Hillary Clinton’s calling of Syrian President Bashar Assad “a reformer” showed the current administration’s naiveness. However, Clinton has now sharpened her rhetoric and reports have widely indicated she is moving towards shortly issuing a full call for him to step down.

    • 333 Ladyhawke
      August 11, 2011 at 10:33 pm

      From Think Progress live blogging, this was an interesting comment. I wonder if Mitt will be challenged on this by any of the gasbags:

      9:53: Romney said he would issue a waiver invalidating ObamaCare on his first day in office. A president doesn’t have that authority.

    • 336 COS
      August 11, 2011 at 10:35 pm

      Among this crowd, who has real foreign policy expereince, except Huntsman as ambassador?

      • August 11, 2011 at 10:38 pm

        Hunstman barely has real foreign policy experience. But aside from him, no one.

        • 338 Chi
          August 12, 2011 at 7:43 pm

          Spending roughly a year and a half in China, mostly negotiating access for his family-owned business while shuttling back and forth to the States to set up a presidential exploratory committee hardly qualifies as ‘foreign policy experience’ I’m afraid…

    • 339 Ladyhawke
      August 11, 2011 at 10:46 pm

      I find it astonishing that Michele Bachmann is on the Intelligence Committee. This is truly frightening. From wikipedia….

      Committee assignment

      Bachmann was selected by House Speaker John Boehner for a position “on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, giving her a new role as overseer of the CIA, the National Security Agency and the rest of the U.S. intelligence community.”[127] Bachmann, who had “not served on any committee that deals with foreign policy issues” requested the position,[127] “a move that has fueled speculation that she may be planning to carry the Tea Party banner into the GOP presidential primaries.”[127]

  88. 341 jacquelineoboomer
    August 11, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Watched about 20 mins. of the live debate, then turned to “Greatest Duets” on PBS! But I’m really enjoying the liveblogging y’all have pointed me to … thank you!

  89. 342 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    The questioner asked Herman Cain about a quote in which he said about Romney’s Mormon faith something to the effect of: “it doesn’t bother me… But I know it’s an issue for many in the South.”

    Cain, in a move that is becoming familiar now, simply denied he’d said it. He clarified that he’d meant that having spoken with people in the South, he saw “they’re not real clear about how [Mormonism] relates to their religion.

    Pressed next on his controversial statements about American Muslims and his questioning of their loyalty to the country, he said he didn’t believe in forcing religion on people, but that “We owe it to ourselves to make sure they’re committed to the Constitution of the US first.”

    • 343 Walking_on_ Sunshine
      August 12, 2011 at 3:18 am

      And we owe it to ourselves to make sure that Cain is committed to serving his country rather than obeying Grover Norquist.

  90. 344 COS
    August 11, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    A ittle OT. I am happy that PBO will open the memorial. I wonder if Tavis and West will be there?

    Obama: King memorial ‘spectacular’


    President Obama on Thursday night confirmed he would open the new Martin Luther King memorial in Washington D.C. on Aug. 28.

    At a New York fundraiser, the president said he had flown over the memorial and it looked “spectacular,” according to pool reports.

    “Now that King has his own memorial on the Mall, I think that we forget when he was alive there was nobody who was more vilified, nobody who was more controversial, nobody who was more despairing at times, there was a decade following the great successes of Birmingham and Selma which was just struggle,” he said.

    “What he understood, what kept him going was that the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice. But it doesn’t bend on its own… it takes time, and it is hard work and it has its frustrations.”

    • 345 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 11, 2011 at 10:51 pm

      Wow PBO is a GENIUS!! Obama/Biden 2012!!

    • 346 Kasai
      August 11, 2011 at 10:52 pm

      COS…That’s wonderful news…Now I know that Rev.AL. march will even be bigger..Oh Man…I wish I could be there, what an emotional and memorable day it will be….:-)

    • August 11, 2011 at 11:00 pm

      I think this is him cautioning us Obots not to be weary or discouraged:
      “Now that King has his own memorial on the Mall, I think that we forget when he was alive there was nobody who was more vilified, nobody who was more controversial, nobody who was more despairing at times, there was a decade following the great successes of Birmingham and Selma which was just struggle,” he said.

      “What he understood, what kept him going was that the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice. But it doesn’t bend on its own… it takes time, and it is hard work and it has its frustrations .”

      —- PBO is one of the most ‘vilified……controversial” people in politics today– due to repugs and dumbass media– but what he always says is that change takes time, it’s not easy and ” the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice…… it takes time, and it is hard work and it has its frustrations. PBO knows his vindication will not come during his two terms, but well after all his plans have come to fruition. Michelle was right to wonder about if we as a country would be ready for PBO. We aren’t and I still think we don’t deserve him. But thank God we have him cause we desperately need him.

      • 348 EDP4BHO
        August 11, 2011 at 11:20 pm

        Yes, we have him and we must continue praying for his safety. I’m sure others will try to word his comments as him paralleling himself with MLK. Who gives a shit, though, right ? Nite all 😀

    • 349 Anonymous
      August 11, 2011 at 11:35 pm

      I thank God for Martin Luther King…because of him we Have President Barack Obama……

    • 350 GGail
      August 11, 2011 at 11:59 pm

      I so ADMIRE President Barack Obama!

  91. August 11, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    O/T: I’ve seen different numbers for number of days no jobs bill from the 112th Congress. I know it is well over 200. Can someone give me a correct number? Reason I’m asking: Soon as I get an accurate number, I am going to do a status update every day on FB with just the number…..EX: 232 days……. That is all I am going to put. Should I do it each morning or late afternoon/early evening? Thanks for your help.

    Now, back to the regularly scheduled program. 🙂 Love getting the info about the debate. NO way I could watch. Thanks to those who are.

    • 352 Kasai
      August 11, 2011 at 10:44 pm

      Tnmtngirl…Hope this link works….I had the same question..If congress is on vacation can we still call ??


    • August 11, 2011 at 10:46 pm

      218 days, 21 hours, 45 minutes and counting:


      • 354 Ladyhawke
        August 11, 2011 at 10:54 pm

        We need to send this link to all of the network and cable stations along with the Democrats Make It In America jobs agenda.

        There are several Democratic plans for job creation but the media just ignores them. The fake balance has got to stop. Democrats are ready and willing to do whatever is necessary to create jobs. But the Republican majority in the House of Representatives have done nothing about job creation. This should be common knowledge for the American people. But the media gives the GOP a pass and looks the other way. They instead blame everything on President Obama as if he has EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE POWERS.

    • August 11, 2011 at 10:54 pm

      This is a running clock on Boehner and jobs:


    • 356 GGail
      August 11, 2011 at 11:57 pm

      I didn’t think I could stomach it either, but to my surprise….it was a HOOT! They tore into each other like…little children…talking over their time limits, talking over each other, evading answers by going all around the block and then forgetting what the question was…!!!!

      Then when Bachmann was asked about submitting to her husband – there was a long silence! before even the crowd reacted and finally Bachmann got her composure back and gave her stepford wife answer.

      It was PRICELESS. Then the after show with the break commentators was EXTRA INNINGS!!!

  92. 357 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    LOL Crazy Michelle

    Debate host Byron York asked Michele Bachmann about her past quotes that she became a tax lawyer at her husband’s insistence, citing Biblical passages that a wife should be “submissive” to her husband.

    “As president, would you be submissive to your husband?” York asked — prompting vociferous booing from the audience.

    “Thank you for that question, Byron,” Bachmann responded, to applause. “Marcus and I will be married for 33 years this September 10th. I’m in love with him, I’m so proud of him. And what submission means to us — if that’s what your question is — is respect. I respect my husband…and he respects me as his wife. that’s how operate our marriage. We respect each other, we love each other.”

    Bachmann then added that together, she and her husband had built a business, raised their children, and raised 23 foster children. “I’m very proud of him”

    • 358 Kasai
      August 11, 2011 at 10:47 pm

      I sure would like to hear from these 23 Foster Children…hm how long where they in her custody? Did the government pay for them? so many questions….

      • 359 COS
        August 11, 2011 at 11:06 pm

        I would love for some of these 23 children to come forward also. Lies roll off her tongue so easily. It appears that they are bashing each other more than PBO tonight. What day is he going to Iowa?

      • 360 dotster
        August 12, 2011 at 12:20 am

        According to the placement agency, the Bachmann’s “raised” some of them for 2 weeks.

  93. 361 maritza
    August 11, 2011 at 10:44 pm


    Thinkprogress is doing a good job live blogging the bullshit coming out of the GOP.

  94. 362 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    August 11, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    I posted upstream that the Rethugs would fight with pillows. No one is really taking any BIG BLOWS at each other. Again…………they don’t want to beat each other up. I am telling you listen to Bachmann……..she proclaimed it again……………..LETS MAKE OBAMA A ONE TERM PRESIDENT!! They can’t do that if they beat each other up before the GENERAL. Mark my words it will be PILLOW FIGHTS from here on out which means Romney or Perry will be the nominee.

  95. 363 Kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Sparks flew between Ron Paul and Rick Santorum during Thursday night’s Republican debate, over Paul’s opposition to a hawkish foreign policy approach against Iran. “Why wouldn’t it be natural that they might want a nuclear weapon? Internationally they would be given more respect,” said Paul. “Why should we write people off? We should at least talk to them – Reagan talked to the Soviets.” Paul added that during the Cold War that the Soviet Union and China had many nuclear weapons — compared to Iran’s efforts to produce just one — and represented genuine threats to the United States, but America did not go to war with those countries, instead maintaining diplomatic relations. This prompted a fiery response from Rick Santorum, who boasted of how he had passed legislation to isolate Iran when he was in the Senate. “Iran is not Iceland, Ron,” said Santorum. “Iran is a country that has been at war against us since 1979,” and is an “existential threat” to Israel. Paul responded that conflict between Iran and the United States goes back much further than 1979 — going to when the United States installed the Shah of Iran in a military coup in the early 1950s, with blowback coming later in the Iranian revolution of 1979. Santorum responded that Paul sounded like President Obama — in apologizing for the United States.

  96. 364 Ladyhawke
    August 11, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    This comment from the Think Progress live blogging made me laugh so hard my stomach hurts.. They did a terrific job of documenting the unhinged and deranged GOP presidential candidates.


    10:56: In closing, Herman Cain cites a “poet’s” lyrics that “Life can be a challenge / life can seem impossible.” The poet? Apparently, it was singer Donna Summer’s song “The Power of One,” featured in Pokemon the movie.


    • August 11, 2011 at 11:10 pm

      hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahhahhahahahhaahahhahhahahhahahahhahhahahhahhahaha!!!! I love Donna Summers! 😆

  97. August 11, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Big winner is Rick Perry. Bachmann is finished – cheerleading for default might get you cheers from teabaggers but it’s so unserious she should be disqualified.

    If I was advising Romney I’d tell him no more debates until the Cain’s, Paul’s, Santorum’s, Gingrich’s and Bachmann’s are gone.

    They make everybody look ridiculous, and forces everybody to tack hard right and say the most ridiculous things. Each candidate said something in the debate tonight that should disqualify them from being President.

    • August 11, 2011 at 11:28 pm

      can’t wait for the epic battle between Perry and Romney. I’m so giddy about it, I can’t breath. 🙂 🙂 🙂 😆

      • 368 Ladyhawke
        August 11, 2011 at 11:36 pm

        It was pitiful watching Mittens get hammered today by regular folk. As Rachel Maddow said he sucks at retail politics. He can look all perfect with the hair and his tight jeans, but when it comes to interacting with the public he just seems so awkward and uncomfortable.

    • 370 Ladyhawke
      August 11, 2011 at 11:29 pm

      No one distinguished themselves with this one….from Think Progress live blogging…

      9:49: All candidates just raised their hands to say they would walk away from a deal that was 10 to 1 cuts to revenue increases.

      • August 11, 2011 at 11:31 pm

        Yep – that will be the main take away. The ad writes itself. I wish the next question was “how about a million-to-one”…

    • August 12, 2011 at 5:11 am

      Shhhhhh. Let them all have more debates.

  98. 373 isonprize
    August 11, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    A friend of mine sent this to my facebook page!!

    alary of House/Senate …………………..$174,00​0 FOR LIFE
    Salary of Speaker of the House …………$223,500 FOR LIFE
    Salary of Majority/Minority Leaders …… $193,400 FOR LIFE
    Average Salary of a teacher ……………. $40,065
    Average Salary of Soldier DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN $38,000

    I think we found where the cuts should be made! If you agree… RE-POST

    • August 11, 2011 at 11:33 pm

      I don’t think they’re paid that amount for life. They are vested after 5 years. The amount of a congressperson’s pension depends on the years of service and the average of the highest 3 years of his or her salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member’s retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary. So yes, they still do VERY WELL.

      Also, it wasn’t until after 1984 that they paid into Social Security.

    • 375 Sue in Minnesota
      August 12, 2011 at 12:51 am

      For life….are you shitting me? That is exactly where cuts can begun to be made.

  99. August 11, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    WOW, this is a great tweet I just saw:

    If u call it Obama-care then call Soc. Sec FDR-care, Medicare LBJ-care & invading the wrong country W-care

  100. 379 GGail
    August 11, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    The Fox Commentators that critiqued during each break was thoroughly disgusted with all of them and one even said that Barack Obama won tonight! LOL!!!!! Then during their closing remarks, they got to auguring about how bad the questions were and that Jobs should have been one of the first questions, not the 9th! I almost fell out of my chair! Bachmann sure showed her arse tonight – in fact they all did when NEWT was the only one not speaking from scripted broad statements that had no meat until they all were asked about the 10 to 1 vote and BAM! they showed their true Repug colors!!!!

    • August 11, 2011 at 11:53 pm

      watched Lawry’s quaterbacking and Eugene and someone else thought Ron Paul did well. I think Chuck Toad said Perry was the winner bc he wasn’t there, but Mittens looked presidential and stayed out of the fray on the sidelines. They said there was a scuffle between those two idiots from Minnesota and that Bachmann came out the winner, but Pawpaw exposed some of her flaws. No mention of Huntsman.

  101. August 11, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Hope the Prez raised a lot of money tonight.

  102. 382 kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    LOL Steven is crazyyyyyyyy..heheheh..he’s latest Tweet referring to.@Romeny

    Corporations are people. That’s why I get all my business news from People magazine.

    • 383 utaustinliberal
      August 12, 2011 at 12:01 am

      Stephen was really phenomenal tonight. Knocked it out of the park. 😀 For the first time in a really loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time Jon Stewart was good tonight. Obviously it won’t last but it was a nice 30 minutes.

  103. 384 kasai
    August 11, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    I meant Steven Colbert

    • August 11, 2011 at 11:57 pm

      yeah, his first segment tonight was about that. it was hilarious! he showed an old clip of him asking some guy—- (probably important and has to do with finances, etc, but whatever, I don’t care that much about him)—- if corporations were people, would he let his daughter date one, the guy laughed like he was embarrassed and said no. tehe.

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