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‘we’ve always been and always will be a triple-a country’

President Obama delivers remarks at the White House, July 8


584 Responses to “‘we’ve always been and always will be a triple-a country’”


  1. August 8, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Thank you and good morning, Chips. Great to have you back.

  2. August 8, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Praying for my President.

  3. 7 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    August 8, 2011 at 11:54 am

    WILL BE WATCHING…GOD BLESS PBO…HIS STRENGTH AND COURAGE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY! BORN TO THESE TIMES FOR A REASON AND PURPOSE. GOD HAS A PLAN FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US!

  4. August 8, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Good polling news from Gallup. Pres at 50% in 16 states.

    “The president did receive a 50% or higher approval rating in a few more states during the first half of 2011 than he did in 2010 — 16 compared with 12, along with the District of Columbia in both time periods. His approval rating crept back to the 50% level in Maine, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota in the first part of 2011 after being below that level in those states in 2010.”

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/gallup-obama-approval-rating-improving-in-crucial-states.php

  5. 11 Sue in Minnesota
    August 8, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    I want President Obama to be himself. I trust him, believe in his intellect, his courage and above all his integrity of character.

    But having said that, if he came out and kicked some serious ass, and made fools out the insolent WH press corps, you would have to scrap me off the ceiling, I be that elated. Set them straight Mr. President.

    • August 8, 2011 at 1:14 pm

      Beautifully said, Sue.

    • August 8, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      Sue, I know what you mean. I would be in the same place. I have been having a bit of an argument with a new person on TPVs. It has to do with this issue of calling out the repugs. It has become the mantra of the disenchanted. I said I did not think it would accomplish anything if the president decided to kick some butt, but it would be a blue ribbon moment for those of us who support him and have to put up with the constant whining that he is a weak leader.

      No resolution between us. He/she insists that the president wants to be criticized. I do not doubt that, but this issue of him not beating his chest is nothing more than grandstanding. It would be a salve for the harmful, disgusting things the repubs say and how they treat him.

      I have a wish list too, but at this time, getting beyond this crisis, is the number one issue. I do not want to spend my time harping on the president and making demands when so much is now at stake.

      • 14 Sue in Minnesota
        August 8, 2011 at 6:31 pm

        For the President to get angry would only satisfy my emotional needs, which ultimately is my responsibility to manage, not his. When did anger mend a situation, it breeds further animosity, and deepens divisions. Using anger as a weapon is IMO a sign of both immaturity, lack of responsibility and a lack of intellectual creativity in seeking solutions. If ever I lose my temper, which is rare, I guarantee you I will also lose sight of the issue, instead I will devolve into a battle of wills, and a need to win.

        Our President stays focused, as he should and as we should want him to be. That others all around are acting with immaturity and foolishness fortunately does not distract or detour him from keeping a steady course, and remaining at all times a responsible and determined adult seeking solutions to our problems and resolutions to our differences. Often one of the very few adults in the conversation.

    • 15 Molten
      August 8, 2011 at 7:16 pm

      @ Sue in Minnesota – I echo your thoughts. While I do not live in the U.S.A. I have followed the politics and events for a long time as I have many friends and family members there (my husband and son included) This country’s events – political and otherwise – have dictated (used very loosely) the events of the world and everything that happens here affected us in other countries.
      I mean no harm or insult but it is time America realises that they have stepped on TOO many toes over the centuries and it is time for it to end. the world watches and laughs at how stupid so many people can be , at the ignorance that is bred by the Media which is republican controlled , by the BIG money that is Republican controlled. I could go on and on. the rest of the world is fedup of how people are trying to make PBO into a fool, only to be able to say “See another black man who couldn’t get it right. This man is the saviour of this country and so many people DO NOT appreciate him. he is too much of a gentleman for the Washington society.
      The tables have turned and the rest of the world has matured and communication has given us more information because we search for it but too many Americans continue to sit back and swallow the crap that is being fed to them even in this day and age.
      In other countries, big and small, we have grown – our education system, our medical syate and much more. I live in a country whose population is approximately 1.3M…we get free education up to Terciary level, our healthsystem provides FREE medication to any age for most chronic diseases (they continue to add as necessary) and in America people are punished for being sick by insurance companies. This is a sad situation. America had created EVERY war for as long as i can remember ( not on their soil) but in other peoples’ countries. LET THE WORLD BE, TRILLIONS OF dollars are wasted there….FIX HOME FIRST then look at your neighbours. What has space travel added to the worls – other than fame – and more trillions being wasted. FIX HOME FIRST. Black people are still being punished for the colour of their shin. The laws are there but they do not work. Slavery is still there in disguise WE ARE FEDUP AMERICA Fix yourself and leave the world alone.

      • 16 GGail
        August 8, 2011 at 10:06 pm

        Molten, thank you so much for this post! Many, many Americans should read this. WOW!

        • 17 Molten
          August 9, 2011 at 4:29 pm

          @GGAIL – I half expected to be spat upon for saying what I said and I sometimes wish that I had a bigger forum to talk to the people of America because it would be stupid of anybody to think that this financial situation would not affect every corner of the world.
          Very often in conversation with friends we talk and America is likened to the ole empires – Rome etc and it is said that every empire has fallen and this one has been showing signs for so many years. Yet people are not taking heed. Too many Americans still believ or have been fooled into thinking that “we are the greatest” “we are the richest” and thirty plus years ago that was true. Unfortunately the rest of the world caught up and have left America standing alone – no longer a beacon to others. As I had said before, my husband has been living here for the last 14 years and cant wait ti leave . Hopefully by year’s end because ther is absolutely nothing that this country can offer that our country can’t , if not better. Is is sad for such a great place to have become what it has but because there are so many people working against the good of the country, thr writing is on the wall. In 2008 many countries were ready to puul away from America but PBO diplomacy and willingness to listen and treat everybody fairly gave the world hope.
          Unfortunately he can;’t stay forever and when le leaves the Whitehouse 2012 or 2016 May the Lord help us all especially those in your country. All the close people in my family will be home and if we have to struggle it will be better to do it there
          God bless you all!!!!!

  6. 18 Jalenth
    August 8, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    I think the president is probably going to only speak on the lrecent ost of the Military personal and thank them and their families for their sacrafice. It would be intersting to know if he mentions S & P downgrade. I don’t expect him to blame anyone or point fingers at who the real culprit in causing this. If he does, he might re-iterate what S&P stated about their decision and that is Washington is broken and for the first time in history there was a battle about raising the debt ceiling.

    I have one complaint about this president and that is he should be a little bit more partisian and call out the people who are being difficult. Mainly the tea party people who didn’t want to pay the US debts. He needs to tell the country what the debt ceiling is and make sure to state the tea party people doesn’t understand what it means for the US to pay debts they alreayd racked up.

    • 19 Jalenth
      August 8, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      Sorry about the spelling errors. I was in the process of checking my typing and posted before I was ready.

    • 21 LunarSea
      August 8, 2011 at 12:47 pm

      I agree that he’ll probably be speaking to the Navy Seal loss. But for your second paragraph I wonder where you get your news and who you listen to because I have been hearing say the deficit is about paying for what we already bought, and that the meltdown in congress is due to small but hardnosed faction etc. much as you outline here.

      Have you watched any of his recent press conferences or recent fund raising speeches?

      So seriously we need to know who you listen to for news so we can set them straight.

    • August 8, 2011 at 4:52 pm

      Please remember that Obama WON the presidency on compromise, bipartisanship, reaching across the aisle and not demonizing his enemy. This is how he presented himself in 2004, and won the presidency in 2008. Congressional Democrats should do the partisan fights because ya know, that’s kind of their job too.

      • 23 Sue in Minnesota
        August 8, 2011 at 6:34 pm

        I just want to add, why do we want to make enemies of our own people. We need to work towards ways we can learn to live with each other, with respect for both our differences and our commonality.

  7. 24 askew
    August 8, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    OT – Some great news on No Child Left Behind – Obama administration to offer No Child Left Behind waivers to qualifying states – @ReutersUS http://reut.rs/pKSlFA

    The administration proposes to reform NCLB by a more flexible and targeted accountability system based on measuring annual student growth on college- and career-ready standards, focusing on data and quality of teachers and principles.

    The final details of the “flexibility package,” will be made public in September.

    Education Secretary Arne Duncan said that the current NCLB law is “forcing districts into one-size-fits-all solutions that just don’t work.”

    • 25 LunarSea
      August 8, 2011 at 12:47 pm

      yep, never worked

      • 26 HZ
        August 8, 2011 at 5:59 pm

        The NCLB never did work and never did address the real issues on the classrooms. I call this another great part of the educational reform that the President, and Sec. Duncan and the Department of Education is working on for being tops in education in the world. These are the things of importance that Crhis and others can be talking about to the American people. Having Ms. Spelling, Sec. of Education under President G.W. Bush on for a few minutes to talk about nonsense is the type of garbage that we have to step up and defend for Sec. Duncan and the President’s vision and current reforms in education. My question is: Why not have someone(or even Sec. Duncan) on your program to elaborate on this aspect of this waiver.? Inform the masses rather than flaunt your’ talking points.’ Our work is cut out for us TOD Family. I keep my information sharing points as I go out to talk with friends and foe alike in specific files to share what this Administration is doing for us. My interests are: Justice Dept., Education Dept., Women’s Rights, Seniors, Labor, and our Military. When they come up with,”What has he done for this?” I let them have it. (Very nicely, but very firm.) Let’s share the knowledge and shame the foolish. HZ

  8. 28 collegekay
    August 8, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    I have bee out of the loop for a few days. What’s going on? is it about the downgrade?

    • 29 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 12:42 pm

      Happy Birthday collegekay…..recovering from your celebration? Hope it was happy and grand.

      • 30 collegekay
        August 8, 2011 at 12:47 pm

        Thank you! Nah I’ve just been running around getting ready for school. I’ll be moving back to DC in two weeks.

        • 31 Sue in Minnesota
          August 8, 2011 at 2:12 pm

          Say hi to the First Family if you bump into them…telling them we LOVE them. I hope the transisition back to school goes smoothly, been helping my niece with her out of state move…big job.

        • August 8, 2011 at 2:37 pm

          Happy Birthday collegekay!

          God’s Blessings!

  9. 35 COS
    August 8, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Gee, I turn on the tv and the very first thing I hear on CNN is the question asking “Does America need a liberal version of the tea party”? We already have one but they are trying to stir up something.

    • 36 LunarSea
      August 8, 2011 at 12:48 pm

      Sounds like Hamshire, Greenwald, Huffington trifector at work.

    • August 8, 2011 at 1:15 pm

      How stupid of CNN to even ask that question? Isn’t the Tea- Republican Party the blame for the downgrading of the U.S. credit, so why do we need a radical terrorists group of lefties. S&P talk of the political system not working because of the Tea Republican Party, how would it help to have another radical group of nutty terrorists from the left?

    • 38 theo67
      August 8, 2011 at 1:15 pm

      America doesn’t need ANY version of the tea party! They are a bunch of racist, crazy, ignorant fools, who don’t even understand the potential damage they can cause – either that, or they don’t care. Either way, one group of tea party crazies is too much.

    • 44 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 1:32 pm

      CNN is a disaster of a news network. They are by far the most vapid news network. Even Fox News has more intelligent anchors.

      • 45 Dee
        August 8, 2011 at 1:57 pm

        I agree. Ted Turner should have never sold CNN to Time Warner.

      • 46 Puddin'
        August 8, 2011 at 3:31 pm

        CNN lost their #1 spot to FOX, so in order to get back on top, they must have decided to be like FOX…but I think they have gone lower than FOX. I can’t/don’t watch CNN anymore.

        • August 8, 2011 at 5:39 pm

          I do my best not to watch CNN either. I sent Wolf an email today and ask him who the hell want to hear anything that racists clown Donald Trump has to say? ..

          • August 8, 2011 at 6:39 pm

            I absolutely HATE CNN. I cannot stand Blitzer and most of that crowd. I do like Don Lemon.

            • 49 theo67
              August 8, 2011 at 9:52 pm

              I hate CNN, too. All the so-called “news” networks drive me crazy!

              • 50 Sue in Minnesota
                August 9, 2011 at 5:07 am

                They were the first Network I dumped, I think well before President Obama was inaugurated……oh and we have always been a FOX free household…..got to watch what you ingest, watching Fox is like willfully drinking poison. I hope Murdoch is destroyed by the findings in the investigations going on in UK, I also hope they do thorough investigations here in the US. The guy is absolutely amoral.

    • 51 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 2:14 pm

      Why in Gods name do we need more extreme and inflexible posturing. America lets embrace the reality of the obstacles in front of us and then figure out how to move through them together.

  10. August 8, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Hello family….I’m new at the table from the BWD blog. So great to ‘see’ everyone and I look forward to keeping up the good fight with all of you.

    • 53 theo67
      August 8, 2011 at 1:21 pm

      Welcome StayngSteady4PBO – I think you’re going to love it here. Very positive, very respectful dialogue. And Chipsticks is always up to date on what’s going on. Occasional calls to action, but a very dedicated, diverse, global group supporting President Obama and real democracy.

      • 54 HZ
        August 8, 2011 at 1:31 pm

        Welcome StaySteady4PBO. You will enjoy this site. Chipsticks is our great leader who keeps our beautiful site positive, on point with the issues that matter to all of us, and most of all, respect is a very important part of our conversations at all time. We here are a positive group who supports President Obama, and we try very hard to keep that respect and support for him and his Administration in front at all times. I hope that you will enjoy our family here. So welcome so much. HZ

    • August 8, 2011 at 1:28 pm

      hello ss4. Glad to have you, hope you have fun with us.

    • 56 GGail
      August 8, 2011 at 1:47 pm

      Welcome SS4PBO. We are pro-Obama and we have respect for one another – even if we sometimes disagree. 🙂

    • August 8, 2011 at 1:52 pm

      Hi StayingSteady4PBO,

      I’m a BWD refugee lol, as well but I’ve been popping in an out of The Obama Diary for a while because BWD recommended Chips site.

    • 58 LunarSea
      August 8, 2011 at 1:55 pm

      welcome -put your feet up, you’re sure to be here for a while

    • 59 sam uk obama supporter
      August 8, 2011 at 2:15 pm

      Hey StayingSteady4PBO – great to see you here, this is an amazing blog. Thank you for your support of your fantastic president he is truly a godsend to the world.

      • August 8, 2011 at 2:35 pm

        Thanks so much everyone for the warm welcome! I see that I’ve landed in just the right place. (whew) I have just finished listening to our President and my admiration for him is boundless. I am personally disgusted with Boehner and his inability (and unwillingness) to reign in the ‘we want it all or else’ crazies who had a direct impact on our recovery. I’m frustrated and saddened as well by the ‘never enough’ crazies on the far left who helped put them in Washington.

    • 61 Puddin'
      August 8, 2011 at 3:33 pm

      Welcome StayingSteady4PBO…you are going to love it here.

    • 63 desertflower
      August 8, 2011 at 4:07 pm

      welcome:)

    • August 8, 2011 at 6:41 pm

      StayingSteady, I too welcome you. The loss of BWD is huge, but you will like the company here. BWD made a couple of comments on TPV today. Talking about the downgrade and the economy.

  11. 65 ChristiMtl
    August 8, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    It’s at 1:30 PM, it was pushed back.

    • 66 dotster
      August 8, 2011 at 1:09 pm

      Chris Matthews on Andrea Mitchell tried to place the downgrade blame all on Dems/liberals and seemed to be clueless as to facts. Sigh again. Ron Ansanta had to clarify and set him straight. I am so sick of media types just blabbing any fantasy that pops into their heads at the moment with little regard for truth.

      • 67 Lovepolitics2008
        August 8, 2011 at 1:16 pm

        I don’t get it. Really don’t get it. I mean… on what planet these people live ?

      • 68 carol in ky
        August 8, 2011 at 1:17 pm

        I had the tv on in the bedroom, but wasn’t watching. Glad I didn’t hear Chris make those comments, but maybe it would have
        been good to hear someone set him straight. That rarely happens on his show. And dotster, I totally agree about the media
        types blabbing…and babbling….about things they know nothing about!! I truly believe this country would be in a better shape
        if those folks would just hush. Grrrr.

      • 69 Debz
        August 8, 2011 at 1:18 pm

        The msm has been working hard to blame the President and the dems since the downgrade was announced. Even S&P specifically called out the repugs, they have been ignoring this fact.

      • 70 theo67
        August 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm

        I heard some “economist” on NPR this morning talking about “both sides” blame game, and that Washington doesn’t have a clue and other complaints, such as how S&P caused the economic collapse with the mortgage rating of AAA – then she mentioned that she was from Goldman Sachs… Aren’t they the same company that placed bets for and against the mortgage backed securities in 2008? She hardly has any credibility blaming anyone but her employer. So sick of all these so-called “know-it-alls”. They know nothing at all.

      • August 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm

        why would he blame this on Dems? Hello?! Did he forget we were taken hostage by the loonies in the repug party? These people either have short memories or they are just outright liars.

      • 72 COS
        August 8, 2011 at 1:20 pm

        There’s an interesting discussion going on right now on C-Span 1 live tv about PBO if you want to take a break from MSNBC.

      • 73 HZ
        August 8, 2011 at 1:44 pm

        Hi Dotster, I heard Chris. He has been saying that for months. Chris is negative in his comments so much lately. Dotster, we try to give these people like Chris some gound, but I just muted him and Adnrea until Ron came back on to clarify, as you so well stated. That is what we need, people to call them on this mess when they are incorrect. I am on mute until my President speaks. I want to have a clear focus. What the President has to say is more important than what the ‘talking heads’ think they know what exactly he will say. Tiredness is a gentle word for them, in my opinion.

        • 74 Puddin'
          August 8, 2011 at 3:41 pm

          I can’t watch any of these people anymore, except for the Rev @ 3PM. Oftentimes I will peep at the beginning just to see what will be discussed, but then I turn away and come here to get the 411. My nerves can’t take their craziness…

      • August 8, 2011 at 2:15 pm

        This is what screws this country. People that are clearly clueless about what’s going on deem themselves experts on such difficult issues and spew silliness.

  12. August 8, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    God bless PBO, he’s such a good man.

  13. 78 HZ
    August 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Good Morning TOD Family. I hope that we all will have a great day today. My prayers and goodness of my heart goes out to the families of those we loss over the weekendin the military mission. Those families need our thoughts and prayers as well as our President and Vice President. That has to be heavy on his heart as again he has to be fortified with our strength as our Commander-In-Chief for our military families. Let us pray for wisdom, strength, compassion, patient for him. He knows his job, and he is doing a great job, but we are with him. I do not want him to come out swinging and angry. That is not a place he needs to go with these two issues. I want him to come out with the clamness, the in-control-President as he is all the time. President Barack Obama is not that in your face angry President. Yes, he probably gets very upset and angry, if you please behind closed doors, but at this time, the American people do not need that. People need compassion in their families for their loss. Children need calm conversations why daddy or mommy is not coming back home from the war. People woke up concerned about their homes, jobs, food, college preparations, and medical bills, just to name a few. I do not need or want a “Teaparty” mentality speaking in front me the world and in front of me this morning. I want my President to be President Barack Obama in charge. Believe me, he is. He is not God, he is our President. He has control on some things, and we the people need to get angry and go to the polls in 2012, and then we get angry and vote those fools out of office. That is where we put our anger.

    • 79 Debz
      August 8, 2011 at 1:20 pm

      I hope you are feeling better after your surgery HZ.

    • August 8, 2011 at 1:20 pm

      Amen HZ. Hope you’re doing well today.

    • August 8, 2011 at 1:35 pm

      Great to see you here again, HZ. Hope you are on the mend.

      • 82 HZ
        August 8, 2011 at 1:51 pm

        Hi Lisa, Debz, and meta. Thanks so much. I am moving this thing right along. I must say that I am feeling better. Had a little rough time last evening, but went into quiet, prayer, candle, and music modes so bring back some calmness within my body. It worked. I will have a follow-up consultation with my doctor on Wed., please say good thoughts and send prayers my way. I love you all so very much. I must get better because we have so much work to get done for President Obama and Joe. So healhty minds, bodies, and calm spirits are needed from all of us. We Can Do This. I believe in my heart. I love you all back so much, HZ

        • 83 LunarSea
          August 8, 2011 at 1:59 pm

          Good to hear your healing is coming along so well. Glad to hear you are paying attention to getting your body’s vibrations in alignment to help with the physical healing that needs to take place. Many green blessings to you

        • 85 sam uk obama supporter
          August 8, 2011 at 2:29 pm

          HZ I am so glad that you are recovering it is wonderful to see you back here. I am sorry that you had a rough time yesterday evening, you are in my prayers each day and I hope your consultation goes well on Wednesday, I will be thinking of you.

          You are an inspiration to us here at TOD adn youa re so right in saying that we have so much work to do for President Obama and I for one will be fighting alongside you all.

          Please rest and meditate and I send healing thoughts and prayers your way. Love you loads.

        • 87 GGail
          August 8, 2011 at 3:42 pm

          HZ, when prayers go up…blessings come down. We’re saying prayers for your continued good health. We need you on the battlefield.

          • 88 HZ
            August 8, 2011 at 6:16 pm

            GGail, thanks so much. I have that beautiful quote in my musicroom/library/quiet space room. I do believe that as well. Yes, keep me in your thoughts, prayers, and meditations. We are on the battlefield and we have to keep in shape. But, you know, GGail, I do believe thanks to Chipsticks here with this beautiful haven, we will be well informed, and sticking together like a healthy and loving family. Ready for battle. Love you all very much,HZ

  14. August 8, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    what is this with Fannie and Freddie? S&P has downgraded them. I think someone need to downgrade S&P.

    • 90 LYNND
      August 8, 2011 at 3:43 pm

      They (S&P) or Sh**& Pi** as I like to call them, were a complicit in the Wall St. shenanigans that caused the 2008 meltdown. How these folks still maintained their credibility , after slapping +AAA ratings on all those pieces of chit that Goldman Sachs were selling is beyond me. After all the damage they caused, they have the damn nerve to start another hot mess. I tell ya, If BHO wasn’t our President, I’d be on the phone right now, closing out accounts left, and right.

  15. 91 FiredUpInCA
    August 8, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Let’s remember that this happened:

    “Aug. 5 (Bloomberg) — American employers added more jobs than forecast in July and wages climbed, easing concern the world’s largest economy is grinding to a halt.

    Payrolls rose by 117,000 workers after a 46,000 increase in June that was larger than earlier estimated, the Labor Department said today in Washington. The median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey called for a gain of 85,000. The jobless rate dropped to 9.1 percent as discouraged workers left the labor force. Average hourly earnings climbed 0.4 percent.

    Faster job gains are needed to bolster consumer spending, which makes up 70 percent of the economy and rose last quarter at the slowest pace in two years. At the same time, the report may relieve pressure on Federal Reserve policy makers meeting next week to take immediate steps to sustain the recovery.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/08/05/bloomberg1376-LPGG203TCF0I01-72Q1B4I73BDOS9TUODH6OD25S6.DTL#ixzz1USWoZoIe

    All of that happened before the debt bill was signed into law on Aug. 2. So the next report will be free of the debt ceiling uncertainty. And while the S&P is currently on a tear today downgrading everything in sight, the other rating agencies are not and people with sense know that the U.S. can pay its bills.

    As Thom Hartmann points out:

    “Have you seen, anywhere, in any media, or even heard reported or repeated on NPR, the following sentence?

    ”We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act.”

    It’s right there on Page 4 of the official Standard & Poor’s “Research Update” — the actual report on what they did and why — published on August 5th as the explanation for why they believe Congress — and even the Gang of Twelve — will be unable to actually deal with the US debt crisis. Perhaps it’s just lazy — the bullet points at the beginning of the report don’t mention the Republicans or taxes, but instead just say, for example (part of one of six quick bullet-points):

    “[T]he downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges”

    In order to figure out that one of the reasons why is that “Republicans in the Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues,” a hard-working reporter would have to read to page four of the eight-page report.”

    http://obrag.org/?p=42645

    • 92 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 1:33 pm

      Yep, S&P’s downgrade stole the thunder of some good jobs news for a change.

    • 93 theo67
      August 8, 2011 at 1:37 pm

      Thanks for the good news reminder. The economy was bouncing back right before the GOP decided to drag it screaming back into uncertainty – but the jobs report shows that reality really is behaving differently from the perception that the GOP and media are trying to force on people. I have now disengaged from most media, except NPR (although they are also suspect at times) and local media. Listening to the “hair on fire” lying media and their GOP cohorts is just too much. Things in reality aren’t as bad as they are being made to appear.

      I admire this President so much, for everything he’s doing, and how much he’s shouldering. He is truly remarkable.

  16. 94 Bobfr
    August 8, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Interesting that he has chosen to deliver his comments in front of a painting of President Lincoln. Without a doubt he is addressing the Republic at a time of intentional harm being done to it by new age treasonous confederates.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  17. 97 ChristiMtl
    August 8, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    I hope I didn’t see this right on twitter, Donald Trump was or is on CNN waiting for the Pres. to speak?? Anyone has CNN on?

  18. August 8, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    feed’s up. waiting for PBO to emerge.

  19. 108 dotster
    August 8, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Shut up Chris Matthews! He can’t stop criticizing Obama about everything—now saying he should have been out before now talking about lost troops—–everything out of his mouth today is anti-Obama.

    • 109 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 1:55 pm

      Fuck Tweety, he is a Sarah Palin/Rick Perry teabagger.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:04 pm

      That’s why I don’t listen to him anymore he’s so disgusting and to think once upon a time I was a fan of his that bought his books!!!! just sick!

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:04 pm

      This might be a good time to turn it off the MSM. You don’t have to watch these trained animals. They are lying to you every day. It’s TOXIC.

    • 115 Lovepolitics2008
      August 8, 2011 at 2:12 pm

      He needs a daddy all the time.

    • August 8, 2011 at 5:57 pm

      Matthews got a email from me. I know Matthews has his head stuck up B. Clinton’s butt he can’t think straight.

    • August 8, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      Yes, I heard that dotster before I mutted Ms. Mitchell. (I was waiting for the President to speak). However, Chris does not know the circumstances involved in the military mission that took precious lives. The President has to speak with all departments involve, plus remember he stated once to a stupid question:”I like to know what I am talking about before I speak.” This President does not rush to the cameras and speak before he weighs all of his options. He had to give instructions to all departments who had to share the news to families, get facts on the cause, speak to other world leaders, and most of all notifying families involved. These people like Chris are fly off the mouth with no thoughts for the ENTIRE picture. Let President Barack Obama be the man that he is. Trust, compassion, honest, intelligent, thoughtfulness, and just plain a damn good man. Leave him alone. These people are fools dancing in a circus daily. And about the jobs plan..I have read in my notice from the WH that the President has a plan that he is rolling out. Just watch. This man can walk, whistle, chew his gum, and think all at the same time. Leave my President alone. He is working harder than any of these foolish men and women work in one hour and shamelessly get paid more. Just clowns talking about nothing but constanly trashing President Obama, and we will not allow it. Not This Time.

  20. 118 nintendowii10
    August 8, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    POTUS attacking the gridlock in Washington.

  21. 119 gd4pbo
    August 8, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Boner is on record saying he got ‘98% of what he wanted’, which now comes complete with a downgrade, so by his standard PBO only gets 2% off the blame. Nevertheless, Boner and his Teahadists party own this. It’s their doing, they are the ones to blame.

    Btw Boner’s comments would make a fantastic ad to tie him and this party to the downgrade!

  22. August 8, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    ” no matter what some agency says….. we’ve always been a AAA country.” Brilliant! Love PBO!

  23. 121 utaustinliberal
    August 8, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I love what he said. “This is the United States of America; we will ALWAYS be a AAA country despite what some company says.”

  24. August 8, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    PBO was on point and beautiful today. It was a good message. CLear, concise and honest.

    • 128 theo67
      August 8, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      Totally agree with you, Lisa. He looked stunning and calm, and was very direct. He’s been telling Congress and the media for months what needs to be done to fix the economy. And he just keeps repeating it, even when the GOP and media demand “leadership” and cry that he’s not putting up a plan. They’re just not listening – but we are!

    • 129 prettyfoot58
      August 8, 2011 at 5:26 pm

      HE WAS FORCEFUL…..CLEAR…..CONCISE…..HE WAS PRESIDENTIAL…I HUNG ON EVERY WORD….HE GAVE US HOPE …TELLING US THAT WE CAN MAKE IT…..THAT WE WILL BE OK…

      HE SAID THAT WE HAVE KNOWN FOR MANY YEARS THAT WE HAD TO HANDLE THE DEFICIT AND THAT WE DID NOT NEED A RATING AGENCY TO TELL US THAT….HE LISTED ALL THAT STEPS THAT HE HAD TAKEN TO GET A DEAL….AND HE LISTED THEIR OUTCOMES…WE ALL KNOW WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHY THE DEALS FELL THRU.

      HE HAD WARNED CONGRESS THAT THIS HAGGLING OVER THE DEBT WOULD HAVE REPERCUSSIONS…

      HE SAID THAT THIS DOWNGRADE WAS NOT ABOUT US NOT PAYING OUR DEBTS BUT ABOUT WASHINGTON NOT BEING ABLE TO COME TOGETHER TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.

      IT WAS KOOL TO USE BUFFIT’S COMMENT THAT IF HE COULD GIVE THE UNITED STATES A QUADRUPLE-A RATING …HE WOULD…

      THE PRESIDENT TALKED ABOUT THE DEFICIT IN CONTEXT OF GROWING AMERICA….THRU JOBS….AND TAX CUTS FOR WORKING PEOPLE (THE PAYROLL TAX)…IN ADDITION TO RAISING TAXES ON THE WEALTHY (HE HAS BEEN EVER CONSISTENT IN THIS MESSAGE)…HE TALK ABOUT THE BILLS PENDING NOW….INFRASTRUCTURE…PAYROLL TAX CUTS AND EXTENDING BENEFITS TO THE UNEMPLOYED…
      HE ENDED WITH TALKING ABOUT THE LOSS OF OUR BRAVE SOLIDES….HOW THEY COME FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS BUT THAT THEY HAVE COME TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND DO WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO KEEP US ALL SAFE….I GOT FROM THIS THAT HE WAS INFERRING THAT THE LEAST CONGRESS CAN DO IS PASS A DAMN BILL TO GET AMERICA GOING….

      BUT HE KNOWS NOW JUST AS HE KNEW THEN THAT THE TP/REPUBLICANS COULD CARE LESS ABOUT AMERICA…SO HE IS TALKING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE….DRAWING THE LINE STARKLY BETWEEN HIMSELF AND THEM….AND ASKING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE THIS LINE AS WELL….THE DEMS IN CONGRESS SHOULD FOLLOW SUIT….

      SOME ON THE LEFT WOULD SAY THAT HE SHOULD BLAME THE TP/REPUBLICANS FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED…BUT THE PRESIDENT HAS TO BE THE ONE WHO STAYS ABOVE THE FRAY…HE HAS TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE …HAS TO ALWAYS KEEP HIS HAND OPEN TILL HE CANNOT KEEP IT OPEN…EVEN AS HE CALLED OUT THE TP/REPUBLICANS AS OBSTRUCTIONISTS…..HE HAS TO BE SEEN AS THE REASONABLE ONE IN THE ROOM….THE DEMS IN CONGRESS DO NOT HAVE TO PLAY SO NICE….(NOTE: JOHN KERRY ON MORNING JOE)

      MY CONCERN IS THAT IF THESE PEOPLE DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THEMSELVES AND THEIR IDEOLOGY…HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD….THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SINGLE PURPOSE…TO DENY THE PRESIDENT ANOTHER TERM AND TO TURN BACK THE CLOCK ON CIVIL RIGHTS….

      HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD….WHAT DO WE DO…..

  25. 131 nintendowii10
    August 8, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    And cue the MSM talking head chatter clown circus about what PBO should have/didn’t say, etc.

    Once again, PBO remains calm and cool under pressure, fuck what these talking heads on the professional left and tea party right wing say!

  26. 132 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    August 8, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    Anyone have a feed/link to the news conference?

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:06 pm

      it’s over Keith. Next time go to whitehouse.gov. Ms. Chips always has a link on the home page.

      • 134 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        August 8, 2011 at 6:44 pm

        I know about Whitehouse.gov I go there quite frequently. A livestream wasn’t up at the time I was searching for it. It is posted now on WH.gov. And here of course at TOD.

  27. August 8, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Great simple, elegant speech; I teared up just a little.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:54 pm

      I didn’t tear up but I felt the flame burn a little hotter, especially during the whole, ‘We’re the United States of America…’ part of the speech. Me, in the peanut gallery? I was providing commentary around what he REALLY wanted to say, ‘Now for the rest of you mofos, this is what I think about your credit downgrade. . . ‘ This is why I will NEVER be the President of United States. My press conferences would be one long BEEEEP, and another thing, BEEEEP…’

  28. 138 FiredUpInCA
    August 8, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Did you get that S&P? Did you understand that teahadists? While you’re playing petty politics and ideological wargames, there are Americans with just as deeply held and diverse beliefs as yours who know when it is time to come together for the common good. They know their allegiance is to this country, not Grover Norquist.

  29. 139 FiredUpInCA
    August 8, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    Did you understand that teahadists? While you’re playing petty politics and ideological wargames, there are Americans with just as deeply held and diverse beliefs as yours who know when it is time to come together for the common good. They know their allegiance is to this country, not Grover Norquist.

  30. 140 Lovepolitics2008
    August 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    He obviously used the tragedy in Afghanistan to shame moderate republican representatives and senators into putting their country before their self-interests. Those republicans who know the tea-party ideology is too extreme but don’t have the courage to go against them. McCain and Graham for example. I don’t know if it will have an effect.

    • 141 prettyfoot58
      August 8, 2011 at 5:35 pm

      yanno Lovepolitics…

      this might be the way to go…to see if we can forge an alliance with those so-called moderate republicans…(are there any left)….they need to be called out….they know…as you have stated that this posture that they have taken is not right….and leads to self-destruction

      there are only 88 TP/Republicans in the House…not sure how many are in the Senate…but perhaps this is where we have to go…to work as the President has said so many times…to find common ground…it nay be the only way that we will be able to move forward….

    • 142 sjterrid
      August 8, 2011 at 6:03 pm

      I don’t think he would ever use the tragedy in Afghanistan like that. This is where I thought he showed how angry he really was with all the games in Washington from the far right and the far left in Congress. These people were elected to serve the people and they aren’t doing their job. These brave members of the Armed forces, God bless their souls, died serving their country and these people get paid are millionaires and their games could have shut down our government which would have devastating consequences for our military, veterans, our country and the world.

  31. August 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Re economy: He said the exact same thing he has said over and over and over and over. PLEASE, Mr. President, get just at least a little angry and more forceful! PLEASE show us some fight. Let them call you an angry black man….yes, Faux would do that and play the loop over and over and over. Those people will never support you, Mr. President. This country is to the point we need something CONCRETE…….not just repeating the exact same message.

    I’m sorry, friends. I love this man and I support him, but I am at the end of my rope. I need to see some anger and fight! If anyone can convince me that the large majority of people all across this country wouldn’t also like that, go ahead.

    • 144 collegekay
      August 8, 2011 at 2:12 pm

      That’s not his style. He’s naturally even tempered.

      • 145 AJ
        August 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm

        I agree, kay…I wouldn’t mind anger, but it’s really got to be authentic. PBO isn’t the type to loose his temper. He’s got to be true to who he is.

        • 146 theo67
          August 8, 2011 at 10:40 pm

          So true – when the President tried to pander to other people’s perceptions of who he should be during the campaign, it didn’t work out so well – and he wasn’t comfortable with it. He should just continue to be who he is – authentic. It’s worked for him so far.

    • 147 Dee
      August 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm

      He should yell and scream like a child and then what? It is not in Obama to get angry. He should remained calm. Getting anger doesn’t solve anything. It just makes others feel good. If the Obama got angry, the GOP wil still never coporate. It won’t accomplished much.

      • 148 dotster
        August 8, 2011 at 2:21 pm

        I don’t get what yelling and screaming would accomplish either. It does nothing to improve any kind of situation. And the more anger he would show the more hateful and violent the retribution. It’s a lose/lose——always, under any kind of circumstances.

      • 149 ChristiMtl
        August 8, 2011 at 2:29 pm

        Yell like John Boehner does? No thanks,it doesn’t mean strength, it means weakness, the President is so ahead of everyone when it comes to maturity and strength. He knows what he’s doing, it is a divided government, he’s dealing with reality. People are just no used to seeing such discipline and emotional maturity, he’s rock solid.

      • 150 Puddin'
        August 8, 2011 at 4:41 pm

        HIs calmness has a calming effect on me…I have faith in him and GOD (not necessarily in that order). I trust that everything is going to be alright at the end of the day…we will feel the bad stuff along with the good over the next several months as the darkness come to the light, it is going to get better.

        Stay strong TOB family and keep the faith.

    • 151 utaustinliberal
      August 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm

      I think you’re fundamentally wrong. Anger does not show strength or smarts in a President. He is the President of the United States not some person off the street. At the end of the day, he has a DIVIDED GOVERNMENT. He has to find some way to work with the GOP in the house no matter how abhorrent they may be. The left and right don’t control all the votes. Unfortunately, we have the independents which make up 20% of the electorate and they swing either way. Independents don’t like the yelling, pounding the podium and bloviated characteristics that politicians show as evidenced by the falling numbers of the teaparty, they like action in terms of jobs bills, initiatives, policies, and working programs; so if he starts behaving like that, he begins to lose the traction that he has gotten with independents. It is for us to take off the gloves and get in the mud so to speak for him. Until the campaign season begins, he has to walk a very fine line and so far he’s been A+

      • 152 nintendowii10
        August 8, 2011 at 2:20 pm

        Yeah, Anthony Wiener showed anger last year on the House floor, look how it worked for him… few friends/allies in Congress and now gone because he made a stupid decision to tweet his penis and lie about it.

    • 153 FiredUpInCA
      August 8, 2011 at 2:17 pm

      “This country is to the point we need something CONCRETE…….not just repeating the exact same message.

      I’m sorry, friends. I love this man and I support him, but I am at the end of my rope. I need to see some anger and fight! If anyone can convince me that the large majority of people all across this country wouldn’t also like that, go ahead.”

      I respectfully submit that they don’t need to see theater, they need to see jobs.

      And they got that:

      “Aug. 5 (Bloomberg) — American employers added more jobs than forecast in July and wages climbed, easing concern the world’s largest economy is grinding to a halt.

      Payrolls rose by 117,000 workers after a 46,000 increase in June that was larger than earlier estimated, the Labor Department said today in Washington. The median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey called for a gain of 85,000. The jobless rate dropped to 9.1 percent as discouraged workers left the labor force. Average hourly earnings climbed 0.4 percent.”

      The economy has been adding jobs under this President at a pace of 150,000 per month on average. Now with the debt uncertainty cleared and S&P isolated as being the fools that they are, we can continue to add to those job increases.

      The facts are and have been. Jobs are being added under this President unlike when the GOP was in charge. If the country, wants to give the country back to these guys after their 8 years of Katrina-sized catastrophes and their anti-union, anti-women, anti-progress agenda since the midterms, then the country deserves them.

      Our job is to keep telling the truth about this President.

      1) Jobs are being added on average 150,000 per month. It’s just that the hole include losses of 700,000 per month under the GOP and they refuse to help add jobs.

      2) Despite this economy this President at this stage is more popular than Reagan was, than Clinton was or either of the Bushes.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:17 pm

      what are you talking about? “show us some fight?” —- what do you think this man has been doing for the past 3 years? YOU are “at the end of [your] rope?”— How do you think this man feels? I think we should all do something constructive like registering people to vote, reading up on ALL PBO has accomplished over these 3 turbulent years, join an OFA event or activity or help school the average voter about repug mendacity. Sitting by and screaming out like peanut gallery plebeians is so yesterday, is so Adam Greed and is so buttfaced Hamster.

      • August 8, 2011 at 2:48 pm

        I think the MSM has been very destructive in its role to drum up hysteria in people who watch their dreck. If people put more energy on the ground talking with people and working on registering voters, they would not feel so hopeless and freaked out.

    • 156 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 8, 2011 at 2:17 pm

      😯 I feel your frustration tnmtngirl. Unfortunately what you are seeking is not in his make up. Looks like you will be a part of the SCREAMING LEFTIES calling him weak and ineffective. If America wants a stern, mad, confrontational prez we have several candidates on the platter with that MO. Bachmann, Gingrich, and Perry come to mind. I guess we will see what America wants in 2012 along with some added fraud at the ballot box. My advice to you, girl, is to hang in there with THE ONLY ADULT IN THE ROOM. Peace ya’ll Im off to work. 😉

    • 157 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 2:18 pm

      Boner shows anger all the time on the House floor, doesn’t mean or do shit, so why should PBO do the same?

      Sorry tnmtngirl, get off the PL kick that PBO needs to be the angry black man. He has outpolled the Democrats and Republicans in handling this debt ceiling crisis by being the adult in the room, so why should he suddenly change course?

    • 158 Debz
      August 8, 2011 at 2:21 pm

      It is not his style to “fight” whatever that means. Please define “fight”. Pounding the podium? Cussing? Shouting? And how will that make a difference to any one? How will that improve anything?

    • 159 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 2:26 pm

      My brother just commented to me that his impression was that he was mad. I thought he was very direct and very commanding. Do you think he should raise his voice, pound his fists, just asking. Why is it that people can’t listen to what he says, but need theatrics and drama.

      We all get discouraged, but as some said yesterday when you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:35 pm

      tnmtngirl- it’s hard,it’s difficult because I suspect the negativity about him is beginning to get to you but just remember he is also having a tough time. Ask yourself this question though, since you have supported him, how has he fought his battles….and won. Then you will understand and keep on keeping on. And it is we who have to fight the good fight .Yes,we! So let’s soldier on and keep the faith.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:37 pm

      This is not WWF. This is serious problems and require a rational approach to governance. We need people to do LESS bullying and MORE thoughtful discourse.

      PBO is working hard to produce change in front of a complete WALL of sheer resistance and hysterical fear. For the President to spout off and look angry right now is absolutely counter-productive and worthless except for feeding our insane media. I can’t believe everyone can’t see that. I thank my lucky stars for PBO’s temperament.

      • August 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm

        NOW is the time to stand by our President. Being at the end of your rope because you need emotional display doesn’t help our country. We need to focus our energy on defeating the Republicans and the absolute destruction they are inflicting on all of us. I hope you can see through all this and help us register voters, recruit volunteers and GOTV to win back the House, keep the Senate and the WH.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:45 pm

      Sorry, I beg to differ.

      Getting angry would do zero to improve my life and that of the many out there like me. If there is any righteous anger to be had, it falls to US — the people.

      We should be in the streets, in our representatives and senators offices, on top of every building that will hold us screaming from the top of our voices. We should mount relentless twitter and facebook posts and calls until we get answers from those in the halls of Congress and those who mislead in the media. Again, I repeat, if there is any anger to be exhibited, that needs to come from Americans.

      President Obama is one man — just one man — who has been vilified, abused, disrespected, trashed and belittled for CONSISTENTLY trying to fix this nation.

      The shame is on us — we the people — that we allow our government to be overtaken by a select few and we show no passionate anger in the way you speak of. And when I say we the people I don’t mean those of us just on this blog. I speak of Americans collectively.

      The people of Egypt, Israel, Tunisia, when they got angry enough, they made their voices heard. They did not rely on a corrupt media in their respective countries to mislead them. They organized on twitter and facebook and when their plans were fully in gear they took it to the streets relentlessly. They were willing to face the consequences because they believed in the reason for their righteous anger.

      There are many ways we can help this president. More than ever, he needs us now, and I refuse to add one more burden to is load.

      We want anger, it is up to us to pick up ourselves and make our own voices heard.

      “A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history. ”

      *********************************88

      “Be the change that you want to see in the world. ”

      —Mohandas Gandhi —

      • 165 Sue in Minnesota
        August 8, 2011 at 3:09 pm

        Spot on! It is ours to claim, we need to take the reigns. And he has told this to us, over, and over again from the beginning.

      • August 8, 2011 at 4:15 pm

        Thank You……Than you Africa……….and Amen to everything you just said:-)

      • 167 GGail
        August 8, 2011 at 5:06 pm

        Very Well Said africa! We do need to tweet, email and phone our President to let him HEAR from us that we support his position and are ready to do OUR part in the recovery process. YES…WE…CAN!

      • 168 prettyfoot58
        August 8, 2011 at 6:39 pm

        Oooooooooooooooooooooooo…weeeeeeeeeeee…..

        Firedddddddddd UP…ready to go….

    • 169 Lovepolitics2008
      August 8, 2011 at 3:09 pm

      The minute he gets angry, the media narrative changes : ” oh President Obama is loosing his calm”, “President Obama is desperate”, “President Obama is divisive”, etc…

      Granted, it would help him with a faction of his base, but the political price to pay could be heavier than the one he’s paying right now. He has to thread an incredibly fine line. Frankly, he’s in a lose-lose situation here. And he’s trying to minimize the loss while saving his country from descending into madness.

    • 170 Anna Luc
      August 8, 2011 at 4:00 pm

      You desire the President to act out. Other than providing a temporary emotional release for some folk, what would that accomplish? It would not change one political fact. If the President acts out just like Bachman & the teahadists, that makes him part of the problem, just another screamer. We are lucky that that behavior is simply not President Obama’s style. What I love about President Obama is that he is engaged primarily in action, not just reaction

    • 171 Mae who love our CIC
      August 8, 2011 at 4:35 pm

      President Obama has been fighting everyday since he has been in office. Nobody likes yelling and screaming. It solves nothing and it does not enhance ones position. Nobody likes a loud mouth and loud mouths gets tuned out very quickly. Alan Grayson was a loud mouth. What is wrong with a lot of us is that we are so used to being screamed at which appeals to the emotion and it does nothing for the environment to obtain a feasible solution.

    • August 8, 2011 at 5:03 pm

      Show me how that anger will translate into votes in Congress and then I will demand that he get angry. making us feel good is not going to get jobs. I would think people would be happy that he called more unemployment benefits and for continuing the payroll tax cuts for employees.

      • 173 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        August 8, 2011 at 5:54 pm

        NEWS FLASH. I’M NOT DISPONDED, DEPRESSED, DISEFFECTED, DISENFRANCHISED, OR UPSET WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA. WHY? BECAUSE I REFUSE TO BE SUCKED IN BY THE MSM HATE MACHINE SOME OF OUR SUPPORTERS AND A WHOLE LOT OF NERVOUS NANCIES OUT IN SOCIETY HAVE FALLEN FOR. PLEASE TAKE NOTE FOLKS. LOVE YA’LL!! THROUGH WITH MY CHECK IN. BACK TO WORK!! 😀

    • 174 prettyfoot58
      August 8, 2011 at 5:45 pm

      i do not understand …why we need him to be hysterical….holla…scream…..bang his fists on the podium…cuss folks out…will that some how inspire people….please explain this to me

    • 175 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 8, 2011 at 6:28 pm

      tnmtngirl get motivated and excited by hystrionics I see. The Teathugs and PL have done a number on your emotions and thought process. Again stick with……..THE ONLY ADULT IN THE ROOM!! 😉

    • 176 tao jones
      August 8, 2011 at 8:39 pm

      My questionis why does Obama have to do all this shouting? Doesn’t he get to rely on Democrats at some point or is it really just him vs the whole GOP?

  32. 177 dotster
    August 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Just right I thought, saying the best he could about these 2 catastrophes, making excellent, truthful points. And he had wise counsel for anyone in government, anyone living life, that it’s not what happens, so much is out of your control, but how you react to those developments that matters, that makes the difference.

    • 178 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 2:30 pm

      Dotster that is one of the keys to successful living. Not a single one of us has control over anything other than ourselves…..most of us have difficulty managing that. When we enter into any interaction with another human being, or groups of people, we control what we bring to the interaction…..it is a simple philosophy and very very challenging to master. I believe President Obama understands that completely and has become a far better master of that reality than the majority among us. My take.

  33. 179 FiredUpInCA
    August 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Sorry for the double post.

  34. August 8, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Brilliant statement from the president. He made the R’s look small in their petty attempts to undermine the U.S. in comparison to the brave actions of our diverse military–willing to give their lives for their country. How can anyone not blinded by prejudice fail to see how destructive the T Republicans have been? I have not a scintilla of respect left for any of them nor their voice boxes in the media. Those sane people who did not vote in 2010 should hang their heads in undying shame and never, never let this happen again.Our president is so inspiring, he can find hope for the country in the darkest times. There is no other leader like him in the world.

  35. August 8, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    I will respect, appreciate, and listen to this President of the United States of America, President Barack Obama until my last breath is taken away. He is a decent, honest, respectful, intelligent, and compassionate man. He weighs all of the choices that he has while still focusing on how will this affect the American people who want to move this country in the future of the greatness that it has always been. And for the record, he will not allow a bunch of foolish clows come in an tear away the beautiful hardworking fabric of this great nation. We tend to forget how hard the majority of Americans have worked to make this such a beautiful place to call “Home of the Brave.” He is the President that you, my precious young people need to hold onto for your futures. I have seen and followed many, but President Barack Obama is for you. He is all business in that Oval Office. Then he comes out and tell the American people(who are willing to listen) what is happening from looking at ALL things from the window of the Oval Office’s position. That is what I want in a President, and that is whay I see in President Obama, and hope to be alive to continue to see. Young people(and us golden ones), do not give in to this foolish chatter from these talking heads, believe in this President, support him because with all of his might and faith in us, he will leave you all in a better place. I am going to put my money on President Barack Obama. In fact, I dedicate my little that is left on my fixed income on giving in honor of our great men and women and their families by donotaing again for this month this morning. No, I do not have it in my budget for a second time, but those great Americans we loss on Sat., gave up more than my donation will ever provide. But it is my heart and support that count. I want us to keep this President as long as we can, and I support him all of the way. I love you all back also.HZ

    • 182 sam uk obama supporter
      August 8, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      What a beautiful post, unfortunately I have not seen or heard President Obama’s speech yet but I can’t wait to see it. Your summery of this great president is spot on – he is for everyone, his compassion and love know no bounds and his intelligence and fortitude are immesurable. You truly have a rare and precious gem in Barack Obama.
      Thank you so much for your donation it is so generous, I just wish I was able to contribute also but as a foreigner I am unable to even though I, like you am on a fixed income due to my husband’s disability but I so wish I could do more for this great man’s re-election bid.
      God bless you HZ and God bless PBO.

    • 183 Mariele K.
      August 8, 2011 at 2:44 pm

      Here here 🙂 I 100% agree

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:25 pm

      HZ, I just love your wisdom and encouragement. PBO is blessed to have you in his corner! I will continue to pray for you and also always for our President.

      • 185 Frenchie08
        August 8, 2011 at 3:47 pm

        Please listen to HZ. Wisdom like her’s does not come often or run so deeply. Like President Obama, she is a gift to this family and anyone who listens with their heart and spirit. HZ I hear your heart. I see your spirit. I hear what you say and I hear what you won’t say. You are a true gift. I pray for you every day. Your courage is awesome and your wisdom is endless! To know you is to love you. I know you!

    • 186 prettyfoot58
      August 8, 2011 at 5:48 pm

      Right onnnnnnnnnn…right onnnnnnnnnnn…..

    • August 8, 2011 at 11:32 pm

      HZ…Thank you kindly for such love and words of wisdom, You give me hope to do better and be better:-)

      May God bless you and keep you healthy…

      Much Love ~ Kasai

  36. August 8, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    My second husband Jay Carney is up. He just introduce legendary firecracker Melody Barnes.

  37. August 8, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Arnie my 3rd husband is up after Melody. He so tall and cute! hehehehehehe. Damn! All these fine men in the O Administration. 😆 tehe.

    • 190 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 2:32 pm

      Lisa loves her President and all his men. I have to agree smart is very, very sexy.

    • 192 Debz
      August 8, 2011 at 2:37 pm

      Lisa, how many husbands do you have, exactly? PBO is mine, the other guys are cute though.

      • August 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm

        i have a legitimate claim to ALL the men in PBO’s administration (especially PBO, Miche and I have a contract), second only to their federally recognized wives, partners, etc.

        • 194 Debz
          August 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm

          LOL I demand to see that contract!!!!!

        • 198 Sue in Minnesota
          August 8, 2011 at 2:51 pm

          Oh, thank God for laughter and you Lisa…I just enjoyed my first laugh of the day, and I am still smiling.

          • August 8, 2011 at 7:09 pm

            Sue, Debz, and my dear other family , Lisa has my permission to speak respectfully about the O Men here with family. However, Lawrence is mine, and Jay is my beautiful son. But we O women do have a ‘calling’ for very smart men. We had this little family discussion last week or so about who is crazy in respectful love with the men of the O Team. But as always, it is Lisa who chooses to pick the bright, and fine ones. For those of you who might be here visitng, we have the ultmost respect for our FLOTUS and all of the wives of these wonderful men, but we just are having some light fun when it comes to our’ O Men. Surely, Tweety can not say that our President, Barack Obama is ‘weak’ in chooseing the Best and the Brightest’ when it comes to his team. Oh, and Tim is my hottest and smartest one that I forgot to mention, Lisa. You Rock, Mr. President with your bad self. Let them talk about that one. Love you all back so much, HZ ‘

        • 202 prettyfoot58
          August 8, 2011 at 6:41 pm

          hehehehehehehehehe….girllllllllllll you know you have to get in line

  38. August 8, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Re the idea that he needs to be angry. On the contrary–he needs to calm people down who are going off in semi-hysteria about how things are falling apart. It might make him and a few others feel good if he lets off some verbal steam, but it wouldn’t do the economy or the country any good. I could see the anger and determination in this eyes, but he can’t say anything that would focus all the attention on HIS emotion and not what has to be done. Believe me, the first thing out of anyone’s mouth would be that he’s too emotional to lead–something every minority and certainly every woman in this country routinely hears when they’re in a position of leadership. He made me feel better about my country and that’s what he needed to do. He showed he was in charge and the S&P rating agency was out of line with the real world. It was right on point and presidential. If you want emotion, watch his partisan speeches to Democratic audiences. That’s where he shows the anger and that’s where it’s appropriate.

    • 204 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 2:29 pm

      PBO can’t afford to be angry because HE NEEDS INDEPENDENT VOTER SUPPORT!!!

      This is what the professional left can’t and refuse to understand when he isn’t their angry black action hero, that he is speaking to the indies that don’t like the crap from either party.

      I mean if the professional left want an angry black man, they can go support Hermain Cain… he’s dead last in GOP polling, but hey, at least he’s an angry black man, which is something that PBO will never be.

      • 205 Anna Luc
        August 8, 2011 at 4:18 pm

        Re: Hermain Cain – “he’s dead last in GOP polling…”

        Which shows you what kind of traction that angry black man act gets you in US politics.

        • 206 majii
          August 8, 2011 at 5:24 pm

          I’m black, and I wouldn’t vote for Cain if he were the last man on the planet and I the only citizen, and the reason is that Cain is a man devoid of enduring principles. He’ll lean whichever way the wind is blowing if he thinks it’ll help him gain more fame, status, and money.

    • 207 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      He has been accused of being angry many times in the past, and yet I have never seen anything but controlled calm and determination.
      He was chastised for how he addressed the Ryan budget plan. If you have read any of the biographies about President Obama you know he registers anger in appropriate situations…..the planning of the Afghanistan strategy when some in the military were trying to play him…..his anger is expressed in a very cold and piercing manner….even when he is angry he is under control. Lets stop insisting he sastify our need for emotional outlet…that is our responsibility.

      • 208 Anna Luc
        August 8, 2011 at 4:22 pm

        Thank you, Sue. When did it start being another persons responsibility to act out my emotional state; that is my responsibility.

      • 209 Eleroy
        August 8, 2011 at 5:05 pm

        Sue, that is why our country is sadly in the state it is now!!! We get this impeccable President who is so superior in every way and stays above the fray never feeding into the manufactured crisis and what does he get in return???

        Folks demanding he show “anger” as if that would automatically fix the problem or even make it better!!!

        Americans have become so dumbed down they now need what they know to be contrived and fake stagecraft and theatrics to feel better – never mind they still do not get any tangible results except for the empty “emotional satisfaction”!!!

        This is how WARPED the American mindset has become and why loudmouth idiots like Chris Christie and Donald Trump who can’t solve the least of their problems never mind our national problems, are touted as “presidential material”!!!

        As if chest beating and loud insults could forge partnerships, achieve lasting smart results or bring about world peace!!!

        And that is the reason why they spend time psychoanalyzing President Obama instead of directing that energy to those who actually need it: Like why Christie is so disgustingly fat and such a loud mouth bully and Donald Trump is so disgusting and such a liar with a huge boulder on his shoulder!!! Obvious signs of very deep-seated emotional and psychological issues and from where I sit, these 2 men are clearly in need of serious psychotherapy!!!

        I’m so sick of folks who claim to support this President buying into the false and negative narratives and actually viewing him through those PL/Rightwing media prescribed lenses!!!

        This President is the same man I supported and voted for, and for all the very same unique and stellar characteristics he exhibits to this day. I was drawn to his calm, focus, brilliance, thick skin and super human decency, dignity and integrity!!!

        During the campaign there were those who screamed at him to attack and retaliate, but he never did – staying the same course of decency and appealing to our higher selves and many of us loved him even more for being this extraordinary human being we all wished we could be but could never attain!!!

        And now again, it is back to the same screaming at him to get angry and all and once again he ignores the know-it-all’s and thank God for that!!!

        I like my President brilliant, disciplined, calm, focused, fair, decent, mature, empathetic, dignified, measured and non-reactionary – and without the need to indulge in stagecraft or play to the peanut gallery or the insane and needy!!!

        And that is exactly the President we have today and boy am I grateful!!!

        It does not get better than this President!!!

        ROCK ON PRESIDENT OBAMA, ROCK ON GREAT MAN!!!

    • August 8, 2011 at 7:16 pm

      Thank tou Jackie. Great point.

  39. August 8, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Oh Lordy, y’all. Please don’t link me with the PL!!!!! What I was trying to say but not well is that he has repeated this same message how many times?????!!!!!! It has NOT moved the crazies and I don’t think it will. So, what will???? What will move the crazies in Congress????

    • 213 dotster
      August 8, 2011 at 2:38 pm

      Not anger. That would only make everything worse. You think it can’t get worse? That’s what I keep thinking, but I put nothing past these loonies Obama is forced to deal with in Congress. They’ve shown they don’t care one bit about the well-being of this country or its people.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:39 pm

      tnmtngirl…but we all knew it would be difficult to get anything done once these people were in Congress. I guess what we didn’t fully understand is just how far they would go! Onward,forward..keep the faith!

    • 215 Debz
      August 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm

      nothing will move the crazies, so he just needs to continue to be himself. Getting angry and screaming won’t make a difference to the crazies either. That is why they are crazy.

    • 217 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 2:42 pm

      Sorry tnmtngirl, wanting PBO to be the angry black man is a PL kick and you need to get off it.

      What will move the crazies in Congress is doing our best to kick their asses out next fall and in the meantime, doing our best to continue to expose their craziness to the mainstream.

      And why should PBO focus on the crazies in Congress? He needs to continue to focus on the independent voters who don’t like crazy, those are the folks who will turn out and re elect him. Political theatrics get NOTHING done, just ask Alan Grayson and Anthony Wiener, so get off of he needs to be the angry black man and focus on crazies kick.

    • 218 utaustinliberal
      August 8, 2011 at 2:42 pm

      You just kinda answered your question. They’re CRAZIES. Nothing or not a lot might move them. But PBO has the long term view and he has wisely set them up. The more insane, crazy, intransigent, stubborn, hateful and intractable they look and sound, the more independents steer away from them and move over to his and the dem party’s side. Evidence #1: The polls after the debt ceiling show that the teaparty’s unfavorability jumped by 40% and the majority of independents blamed the GOP for the gridlock over the debt debate. So, the more they act crazy and depict inaction, the more points PBO chalks up.

      PBO: 1

      GOPTeabaggers: 0

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:45 pm

      tnm. He’s not trying to get through to the crazies on the left or the right. He’s trying to talk sense to the moderates and independents. The message he’s preaching bears repetition. This president is very constant, according to Miche, he’s never too high nor too low. Getting angry right now does not, would not, could not help him get his message across. Cooler heads are needed and that’s exactly what I want.

      • 220 prettyfoot58
        August 8, 2011 at 6:44 pm

        Right on….

        we have to form alliances with the moderates….

      • 221 Anonymous
        August 9, 2011 at 11:48 pm

        Lisa, please, please believe I mean no harm, when you call Michelle Obama “Miche”, it doesn’t “feel” right to me. It seems too familiar. I’m an older woman and still believe in respecting people’s name and title. Don’t let what I say stop what you write, this familiarity just seems “wrong” to me.

    • 223 lmrj
      August 8, 2011 at 2:56 pm

      NOTHING will move the crazies in the teapublican party. You can lead those horses to water but you will never make them drink. That’s why they cheer at the thought of being blamed for their downgrade. Not his job to move the crazies. He doesn’t need another job. It’s his job to do exactly what he is doing. And, by the way, I do not mind listening to him repeating the same thing. Eventually it will sink in to the public psyche. That’s who he’s talking to. The American people. That is his only concern… as it should be.

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:47 pm

      As I respect everyone’s comments…..This is not the time to question his speech delivery. ……….

      YOUR FRUSTRATIONS AND ANGER…SHOULD BE TAKEN TO THE STREETS and HAVING PBO’S BACK

      As Africa and Lisa already commented in the things we need to be doing…Volunteer, Demonstrate…March…For God’s sake if we haven’t learned anything from Egypt and Wisconsin….then SHAME ON US…and we have NO reason to complain. (is getting old)

      We seem to be FIRST TO CRITIC…..and LAST TO FIGHT.

      Peace

  40. 225 dotster
    August 8, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Geez—the mkt. is in freefall. What a blow S&P rendered. And this all goes back to the crazy, unAmerican, unpatriotic tea party who stomped their feet—–held this country hostage, and the teapublicans refused to cooperate with the grand bargain which could have avoided all of this—-wrecking the economy here with effects all around the world. Just unbelievable.

    • 226 Debz
      August 8, 2011 at 2:44 pm

      And the tea party and republicans take no responsibility for the mess they have made. And the complicit media go along with them. It is all unbelievable.

      • 227 Blue
        August 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm

        Because the tea party are Corporate tools, and the media loves the tea party, because they represents them.

    • 228 Anna Luc
      August 8, 2011 at 4:30 pm

      The S&P is not the only factor pulling the market down. Itally and Spain are in serious economic trouble. The EU can’t bail them out like they did the smaller economies of Greecee and Ireland.

    • 229 GGail
      August 8, 2011 at 7:19 pm

      The market is not just reacting to our S&P rating downgrade, it is also reacting to other countries financial woes.

  41. August 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Bad storm here in K’town. I’m running on backup battery now, but don’t know for how long.

  42. 233 carolyn
    August 8, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    He was angry, but it is always controlled anger. He’s angry at the forces that did this to our country. He’s angry that Boehner backed out of the right deal, he’s angry that we lost 30 wonderful soldiers. Righteous anger can be acted upon, that is what he will do. He will channel good old righteous anger. Getting mad just to accomplish a display does nothing. He rightfully called out the Republicans for this mess…subtly, but it was there and strong. When he said the plan he and John Boehner agreed on, he was calling out the tea party. It may take a while for that to get through their thick skulls. Did you notice he said we can’t cut any more? It now has to come from revenues and restructuring. Honestly, I don’t think the msm responders LISTEN to what he says, so I don’t listen to them! I had the TV on mute until he began, and turned it right off as soon as he turned and walked away.
    Notice he also said “the most difficult times these last 2 1/2 years”…..anyone who thinks he doesn’t see and hear all the controversy and mess going on, should rethink. He knows, and is always thinking what to do about it. As to giving us specifics in that kind of speech, what would that do? He will spell out specifics in the next month, and by the time Congress gets back they will have a mountainload of work to do. We have to keep them working! I have a feeling he will work with Geithner to get some of those construction, infrastructure jobs started soon that he talked about. He won’t wait for Congress.
    Yes, the imagery infront of the Lincoln portrait is masterful!

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:01 pm

      Remember that video of the Tribune newspaper editorial board interview when he was asked about his coolness? He said then, he just doesn’t blow up. That’s not him. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t get mad. That he doesn’t feel.

      One of the reasons we elected him was the calm he showed during the financial crisis when old man McCain suspended his campaign and Bush didn’t know what the hell to do. Now the stupid media and PL who were never on his side anyway, want him to change who he is.

      Pardon me, but screw them. Sitting on the sidelines, slinging mud and doing nothing.

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:13 pm

      Thanks Carolyn for your insightfulness as well as Proudofobama’s comments. On point. HZ

  43. August 8, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Thanks to those of who who “talked me down.” Blessings to all. I am just so D— frustrated and scared!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 237 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 2:45 pm

      Just remember how PBO swatted that fly and how he ordered SEAL Team 6 to execute Osama bin Laden… PBO is NOT to be fucked with!

    • 238 Debz
      August 8, 2011 at 2:46 pm

      tnmtngirl, we are all frustrated, and with the PUMAs joining the TP going all out anti-Obama it’s going to get worse. We will need each other to get through this. If PBO can remain calm and rational. so can we.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm

      tnm, that’s why we are here. sometimes it helps to back off, take a deep breath and let it go for a moment. Remember who this president is. He’s not the typical guy, if he were, he would not be president of this country, nor would he have done as well and accomplished all he has up to this point. Hope you remain safe during the storm, take care.

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:10 pm

      We are with you and much stronger when we stand together. Considering all the craziness out there, frustration is very understandable. I would encourage you to do what you can to de-stress however that works best for you!!

    • 241 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 3:17 pm

      Sending you light, and love. When things settle down weather wise find the time to lift your spirits. Guaranteed watching some of Chipsticks wonderful videos will help take you there, of course you may need to let a few tears fall, a good thing as it will relieve some pressure and open up your heart for more positive energy.

    • 242 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 5:56 pm

      I understand your frustration. I don’t think he needs to get angry, but I do think he needs to say something new. Because he’s been repeating the same talking points for so long and not making news, he gets drowned out in the media. However, it’s August which is never a good time to introduce a new plan. So, I am hoping in September he comes out with a big new jobs initiative. It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t pass, but he needs to be seen publicly pushing Congress to act. And I think he will do that.

      • 243 Sue in Minnesota
        August 8, 2011 at 7:08 pm

        And the reason he has to keep repeating them is the thickness of the average American’s skull. In general, quite a collection of overgrown children.

        I also don’t think the MSM covers him as thoroughly as they could or should.

    • 244 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 8, 2011 at 6:50 pm

      What are you afraid of tnmt? We are the change we have been waiting for and the CIC is the leader of that change. STOP WATCHING THE DAMN MEDIA!! 😡

  44. 245 Janelle
    August 8, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    They’re trying to goad the President to lose his cool, which will make the markets get even worse today. Notice the NY times hit piece on his supposedly loss of passion—huh? Then the Clintonites and PL come out in full force, as well as the media. They were all given their marching orders from the top 2% that want power given back to the Republicans. Showing too much anger is giving the S&P too much power when it’s all politics right now. The President really cares about us….yes, he’s a politician but he is extraordinary. The President has a remarkable spine of steel and an extraordinary leader to do and say what he must and in the right tone for the good of everyone. Now is the time, just like before 2008, when we need to hold the line and focus on the ground game. The media, almost all media, has been given instructions to verbally assault the President until 2012. Expect it and don’t think your feelings will be validated from the TV, it won’t. This President will never buckle under pressure….that’s what he’s showing now. The Repug feel was so weak, they’re throwing the kitchen sink at the economy because they are so fearful of a Obama 2nd term. Hold the line folks, hold the line. He is very determined and the powers that be are fighting back hard. I’m cutting the TV off for awhile. The President looked gorgeous, calm, and steely. This President is not going to give up and neither should we. This is a fight for the soul of this country. Folks are giving corrupt S&P too much power when they were just as corrupt before the housing crisis giving high ratings to junk securities. No matter what happens, I’m with the President because he’s the only thing standing between the total wave of corruption to this country.

    • 246 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 2:53 pm

      John Boner shows anger all the time and has gotten NOTHING done, is that what the professional left and the tea party right wing want in a President? Someone who focuses more on scoring political points, as opposed to getting nothing done?

      That’s what I’ve admired about PBO, he NEVER puts politics ahead of the people. Of course, it’s bad politics to want to work with the GOP, seeing as the GOP want PBO to fail, but he has to work with them because they have the majority in the House. Yet from the sounds of it, the professional left wanted a default so that PBO could invoke the 14th Amendment, which would have resulted in even more catastrophe.

      We just need to ignore the professional left, they don’t know SHIT about winning. The only winning they know of is in the Charlie Sheen sense of the word.

    • 247 Janelle
      August 8, 2011 at 2:54 pm

      I meant Republican “field” was so weak, not “feel”. Every August is going to be rough. The oligarchs mean business. We have to toughen up….it will get worse with a lot of upheaval, attacks and folks trying to tank the markets. And I agree what was mentioned earlier, the Independents are watching very closely and they hate yelling and screaming. I may like to see venting but what does that accomplish? Nothing. These are extraordinary times, and we have a President that is just that and is willing to shut out the noise to say what is right for the country.

  45. August 8, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    I will share something in my comments that may upset some people, but I am not trying to do that. I am a little worn out about” need to show some fight,” “get some fire in you, Mr. President.” and “get angry.” First, if you have taken notice, that is not who President Obama is. If you take a closer look at this President, you will be able to see his fight, fire in the belly, steel in the spine, and anger in the words, IF you will listen and watch his words along with his body language. I did not see him las Tues, August after the vote, because I was being taken to the hospital for my procedure, so we listened in the car. However, we both heard the fire, the anger, the firmness, the frustration all in that voice.
    I would say to all of us, we these thoughts rise up, stop. Go and gather your great books that have been well researched on President Barack H. Obama. And Read them. And then go and read about Roosevelt, Truman, etc,., and see how we have always as a nation come out strong. We have a man for these times that we are going through.

    Read: “Reading Obama” by James Kloppenberg, read The Bridge, David Reminck, read, “Revival” by Richard Wolffe, read, Truman, by David MuCullough, read, Nelson Mandela’s Way, Richard Stengel and so many others. Get a handle on some of the personality traits about this President. Then I hope that we will not be so willing to get to the end of our ropes. If we find ourselves at the end of the ropes, so to speak, let your ropes go, and move on to another person. This is not the President that you need to follow. However, if your leave, do not blame President Barack Obama. Let us regroup, stand back, and try to recall how much rope all of us gave the previous Administration. Where did that leave President Barack Obama coming in? A hell of a mess. I promise you, President Barackc Obama will not leave such as hell of a mess for the next President coming in. I promise you that. Take it to the back. Let the ropes go, and let us use our brain-power and think for ourselves and the future of our country to be in a better place. I would rather have this country in the hands of President Barack Obama than count on a rope to control my decision and emotions daily. I love you all back very much.HZ

      • 250 utaustinliberal
        August 8, 2011 at 3:23 pm

        Brilliant HZ. Just brilliant and spot on. CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP. Everyone who gets frustrated, or begins whining or demanding President Obama needs to do this and that, or he needs to yell or he needs to show anger, need to STFU and read HZ’s statement and let it sink into your medulla oblongata. Once again Brilliant. Thank you HZ, for your FIGHTING SPIRIT and UNWAVERING SUPPORT for PBO.

    • 252 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 3:21 pm

      Amen.

    • 253 COS
      August 8, 2011 at 3:26 pm

      I am in total agreement with you HZ. Each and everyone of us has our own personality. We all have different ways in which we react, and we can’t force someone to react like we would. I prefer genuine emotions instead of forced emotions.

    • 254 ChristiMtl
      August 8, 2011 at 4:01 pm

      What a fantastic comment HZ. You nailed it! Thank you so much.

  46. August 8, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    some idiot asked Jay why PBO didn’t call congress back to work………… really? 🙄

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:59 pm

      These media people are stupid, do anyone really think they would have come back if he call them back? He shouldn’t have to call them back. They know what is going on, why don’t their Speaker call them back?

  47. 257 ingridclaypottian@hotmail.com
    August 8, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Or the Repub’s own angry black man, that West fella!
    At this time PBO has got to be as wise as the serpent and as gentle as the dove.
    His remarks hit the right note and I admire how he wisely gave a lesson in patriotism

  48. August 8, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    Is it just me or are we watching a replay of last summer when we had the oil spill in Louisiana? Like clock work, almost everyone in the media (I can’t remember any exception) threw the blame on President Obama. In similar fashion they were screaming as they are now trying to blame everything from the debt ceiling to the S&P downgrade to the falling Dow on the one man that tried to avert any of this.

    In the BP case, some did not even wait to hear the plans the president had for BP before they began “schooling” him about how to run the country.

    I wish I was tech savvy. I would create two separate documentaries — one on the American media and its laziness, double standards toward this president and another on the Professional left.

    Both groups do a disservice to the people they claim to serve.

    • August 8, 2011 at 2:57 pm

      I was thinking about this very thing this morning. The MSM hair on fire, PL Obama is weak meme, the HIllary Clinton would have been better meme, the He will never be re-elected meme, Why can’t he do MORE meme……It goes on and on and happens every freakin’ August.

    • 260 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      August is crazy season in politics. This happened in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010. Now, it’s happening again. Obama always has bad Augusts. I expect in September when people calm down, Obama will unveil his new jobs and education plans and the subject will change.

      • 261 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        August 8, 2011 at 10:13 pm

        Bad Augusts’? Obama always has bad August’s according to whom? Folks all this drama is created by the media. We are not going to collapse into a 3rd world country just because of a insignificant downgrade from some company. The Europeans will work together to get their markets in line. Let the MSM, PL, and Teathugs do all the yelling, be the drama queens, and play hysterically to the American people. YOU GO PBO with your calmness, coolness, and collectiveness!! God is guiding you and WE WILL PREVAIL!! KEEP HOPE ALIVE!! Obama/Biden 2012!!

  49. August 8, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Please excuse the spellings, punctuations, and sentence structures, but I can’t see the screen as I type, and this well-seasoned senior is a little tired. Patience is a very difficult attribute to hold on to when things are at such a tedious level, but we can make it. Trust is a counsin of Patience. Let them come together and work, please. I love you all back very dearly.HZ

  50. August 8, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    Per desertflower, let’s all, if you can, listen to the RANDI RHODES’ ‘Online’ RADIO SHOW… http://www.ktlkam1150.com/mediaplayer/ (It’s on from 12PM-3PM(PST).)

    YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!

    • 265 utaustinliberal
      August 8, 2011 at 3:26 pm

      I’m listening to her right now. Ahhhhh…. political junkie heaven. 😀

    • 269 desertflower
      August 8, 2011 at 4:17 pm

      Love you, snoop:) Thanks for the reminder! She’s talking now about the fact that GWB NEVER but the costs of wars and tax cuts on the books and when PBO came into office, HE PUT THAT IN< and showed America THE ENTIRE BUDGET, not hiding those things in supplimentals. GWB BORROWED all that money to fund the wars etc.

      • August 8, 2011 at 5:01 pm

        df, love ya back, it was pleasure! 😉

        Yeah, I heard that. Until it sinks in, that particular thing needs to be REPEATED, REPEATED & REPEATED, on a regular basis…

        Just ask Frank Luntz & Co., REPETITION is a good thing! 😆

        YES.WE.CAN…DO.(Much)More, Together!

  51. 271 carol in ky
    August 8, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    tnmtngirl it’s storming here in Lexington too. so I might lose power soon. anyway, I’m glad you got “talked down”.
    We all need that sometimes. I’m in dire need of it because of the market…watching my life’s work go down the
    drain again. And at 67 it’s damn hard to replace. I’m not scared about our president tho. I trust him to lead us in
    the right direction….I just feel such pain for him tho. I saw controlled anger in his eyes today, but I also saw his
    pain. I don’t think any of us can imagine what he’s going through right now with the market in free fall, getting
    hammered from the right, left and the media….and the devastation of losing those brave military men. His pain
    at that loss must be unbearable. Now we must all be strong, do all we can to get those teabaggers out of congress
    and let the president know we have his back 🙂

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:28 pm

      Carol in Ky. Please be safe as you can. I feel that same as you. I will be 67 in a few months, and I have my faith to stretch me to the finish line. I cry, I get upset, I text my beloved brother and niece, but in the end, I get to mysel and pray a lot and meditate with hopes for the best. We are going to make this through. I believe that with all of the 24/7 news in this time in our history, things get to us much faster now. Then the well informed, and careful news men and women who reported and took seriously their duties as journalists are gone from us now. So we speculate a lot with our information. But I do believe that this President is sincere, open and honest with us, and tries to make sure that he is sharing with us all that he can that will help us get through these very difficult times that he did not make. We will be fine. Now take care of yourself, please. Love you back also HZ.

  52. August 8, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Idiot Ed asked Jay to comment on Tim’s statement that the admin bears NONE of the responsibility for the downgrade. Jay said: I couldn’t have said it better than sec. G.
    Ed: why can’t you say you bear some of the responsibility?!
    Jay: this administration has more than met repugs half way…….
    Ed: blah, blah, blah, President Bush
    Jay: and that still isn’t paid for
    Ed: blah, blah bullcrap
    Jay: fuck you, tool.

    ps- no he didn’t. But I bet my last two cents that’s what he was thinking 😉

    Idiot Tapper getting grumpy, I think Jay remarked on that. Jake is an ass.

    • 274 ChristiMtl
      August 8, 2011 at 3:22 pm

      They think they are so important, they just carry the GOP water. If they could just lose their damn arrogance though, it’s infuriating.

    • 275 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 3:24 pm

      I like your play by play……..another round of laughter. Keep it coming Lisa 😀

  53. August 8, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    Just bad thunderstorms which have passed, but still no power. Who knows when? I did hear a siren few minutes ago that sounded fairly close by. Hope everyone around me is okay!!!!! I hate to hear sirens!

  54. August 8, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    So I saw on Twitter there’s a new CNN poll out today that shows disapproval of PBO up among those who say he’s not liberal enough.

    Can I say I hate the PL? Do they want us living under tea party rule?

    SOBs.

    • 281 Dee
      August 8, 2011 at 3:14 pm

      This old news. It was mention a couple a weeks ago. CNN is just recycling news. The polls actually show PBO liberal support holding steady.

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:36 pm

      that’s a poll of the 7%ers. who cares? CNN doing it’s job as issued by the GOP: spreading the lie that PBO is weak and losing support in order to dishearten any misguided Dem who still watches that crapshoot that is CNN. No surprise there.

    • 283 FiredUpInCA
      August 8, 2011 at 3:36 pm

      My disapproval rate of people who think the most progressive President in modern memory isn’t liberal enough is holding steady at 100%

      Remember these are the geniuses that praised Clinton for raising his veto pen and not getting healthcare passed and scorn this President for getting it done. These are the geniuses that supported heckling the President that did not sign DADT into law but who came up with a plan to successfully end it. Then they patted themselves on the back for getting it done.

      These are the people that wailed in the streets and ripped their garments over forming a bipartisan deficit commission and the betrayal of a president working with both parties and they shrug their shoulders that Jane Hamsher signed a partnershi with Grover Norquist–the ideological godfather of the tea party.

      It will be a cold day in two hells before I ever care what or who they support in a poll. This President has achieved more of their agenda than they ever did before he became President. Instead of realizing that and celebrating it, they choose to disparage every bit of progress we’re making in 2.5 years.

      They are horrible at strategy. They are horrible at gratitude. They are horrible at politics. They are not allies.

    • 284 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 3:39 pm

      HOLY SHIT, WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT HIM NOT BEING LIBERAL ENOUGH?

      Sorry for yelling but I had to emphasize that point. President Obama has always campaigned as being pragmatic, not a liberal wingnut. The professional left need to go fuck themselves, they idolize proven losers like Dennis Kucinich, Alan Grayson, Anthony Wiener, and Russ Feingold, shows how much they know. 😡 😡 😡 😡

  55. 285 ChristiMtl
    August 8, 2011 at 3:20 pm

    Just a little superficial comment, I cannot believe how good the President look in the first pic after the vid, and so young! Wow what a good looking man he is.

  56. August 8, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    I do not think your comment is superficial, ChristiMtl. I concur with Proudofobama. President Obama is a strong man who carries his worries and concerns to a higher power in prayers, committed spiritual people who he ask daily to lift him up in their prayers. I also believe from what he has stated many times, that he knows that many,many people have his back. I believe the good thoughts, the many prayers for wisdom, taking good care of him, and giving him strength does show on his face and in his presence when we see him. That encourages me because I see the power of these prayers, meditations, and good energy being sent out toward him daily. This is a comfort and affirmation to all of us who believe in him, and who will continue to support him. Love you back also, Mr. President. HZ

  57. August 8, 2011 at 3:40 pm

    Randi is AWESOME!! love, love, luuuurrrvvvv her!!!! she’s so on point! Calling out the teahadists!

  58. 297 utaustinliberal
    August 8, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    The people who run S&P are a bunch of petty fucktards. It came out today that the top ratings guy at S&P didn’t study economics, accounting, business or anything connected to a business or economics major. He instead studied wait for it….. literature and philosophy. Are you fucking kidding me? Nothing wrong with literature and philosophy, but how the heck does that give you credibility to be a top head honcho at a credit ratings agency? What? Do you spout Shakespeare or conduct a soliloquy on the writings of Aristotle? This is the guy who now gets to decide that the US is due a downgrade? More evidence that this downgrade had nothing to do with our economy or ability to pay our debts; the guy who is the CEO of S&P is Harold McGraw III of the McGraw-Hill legacy. He heavily backs Mitt Romney for President. When Romney was Governor of Massachusetts, he created only about 1 million jobs from 2003-2007 and Massashusetts was 47th in job creation, yet S&P CEO gave Romney and Massachusetts an unprecendeted credit rating upgrade. Are you freaking kidding me? Everyone knows Warren Buffet likes, admires, respects PBO and is supporting him for re-election. Buffet’s company Berkshire-Hathaway is a solid solid solid company. Today, Buffet came out and supported PBO’s stance that S&P was wrong for the downgrade, that it should have gone the route of Moody’s and Fitch who collectively said that any further debt discussions MUST include tax revenues, but for now they believe the US is worthy of AAA credit rating and is the safest place for any business investor. What did S&P do to Buffet in retaliation? They just downgraded Berkshire-Hathaway. Anyone in the media or GOP who says this isn’t partly political or petty payback at the dems for calling them up to congress and holding their feet to the fire for their role in the mess of 2008 or the regulations that President Obama instituted is a liar and is highly unintelligent.

    • 298 hopefruit2
      August 8, 2011 at 4:34 pm

      Thank you Utaustin for this bit of information. It’s an outrage that this guy doesn’t even have a bachelor’s degree in economics. That’s a serious problem right there. Ask those fools on the PL, TeaKKKlan Party, and MSM if they would want someone with a Ph.D in Literature operating on their loved one’s heart or brain. This is no different.

      And they want to talk about PBO not being qualified for the job??

    • 299 desertflower
      August 8, 2011 at 5:05 pm

      God bless you for your insight and commentary that you share with all of us! This info you share is invaluable to us…amazing how we all get info to each other so that we can all become collectively wiser and have info at our fingertips that others want to keep hidden.thank you so much.

      • August 8, 2011 at 7:33 pm

        Hi Desertflower, thanks for the Randi show. Now I will put her on my schedule. You all are keeping this senior pretty busy. But I love pretty. I can’t tell my cardiologist all of this. He will not be so understanding. Then I am helping with a group in my area with volunteering for OFA and our military. But I will be careful. But also, a girl has to do what has to be done. Love you all back so much.HZ

  59. 301 ChristiMtl
    August 8, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Apparently Rick Perry will make it official next week that’s he’s running. At first I thought it was a fantastic news, but now I’m afraid he’s going to split the votes between him and Bachman……….. and Romney will just cruise by.

    Romney is the only one I’m worry about, Mr. Teflon.

    What do you guys think?

    • August 8, 2011 at 3:48 pm

      so Dick is gonna run huh? hm.

      • 303 ChristiMtl
        August 8, 2011 at 3:49 pm

        I saw it on Twitter, NY times or something, I didn’t think he would run though….mmmmm Maybe with all that praying this weekend, he confused the voices in his head for the voice of God.

        What a dangerous lunatic. Scary!

        • August 8, 2011 at 4:26 pm

          I also saw on twitter that one of Perry’s billionaire donors was killed in a car accident. Lord forgive me, but I tweeted: “Is God speaking?”

          I wasn’t the only one who expressed such a sentiment.

      • August 8, 2011 at 7:50 pm

        Lisa and TOD Family, did you all watch Rev. Al closing to Gov. Perry. Watch it. It is so moving simply because as his panel was discussing the point of ‘prayer meeting’, I immediately thought of the very same scripture that Rev. Al closed with in his remarks. When Rev. Al read his words to Gov. Perry, I almost fell out of the chair. Read it: Matt. 6:5-7. I do not believe it just happened. WOW. HZ

        • 306 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          August 8, 2011 at 11:25 pm

          I read the scripture….DEEP and RIGHT ON TIME for Mr. Perry. Rev. Al is a sharp as well as spiritual being. Great observation HZ.

    • 307 hopefruit2
      August 8, 2011 at 3:56 pm

      I’m not worried about any of them.

      Thats why the GOP and media have to resort to gimmicks and manufactured crises in order to tear this President down. NONE of these Republican candidates can stand against him on their own. They all need the sorry ass-media to aid and abet their thievery – just as they did in 2000 and 2004. That’s the only way they can win elections – by engaging in underhanded deceptive tactics.

      • 308 desertflower
        August 8, 2011 at 4:22 pm

        Spot on ! I have been screaming that from the rafters for anyone that will listen to me.They couldn’t win ANYTHING on their own if they ever told the truth and didn’t use these unethical tactics…they will NOT take down this President. I just want to see their sorry faces when they realize they lost big time…not only that, they will lose in the states as well….WE HAVE TO WORK OUR ASSES OFF THOUGH!

        • 309 hopefruit2
          August 8, 2011 at 4:37 pm

          Definitely df. I am willing to work my ass off to get this President re-elected. My conscience is clear and I know I’m working towards an honorable cause. Let the MSM, PL and TeaKKKlan Party engage in their vile dirty tricks. It’s just a matter of time before they all turn against each other and implode.

          • 310 desertflower
            August 8, 2011 at 5:08 pm

            Exactly. They will implode…we just have to constantly push them back, not let them tell their lies and get away with them…there are SO many! I say we engage those Republicans that don’t even recognize their party anymore..I know for a fact they are out there! Open the tent a little wider…the more people know, the more they will figure out that these guys are stupid AND nuts!

    • August 8, 2011 at 4:41 pm

      The Republican Party is hot ugly mess. Let them self-destruct. They deserve each other. We can win and we will win.

    • 313 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 6:13 pm

      I am not worried about Romney. He is charisma-free and reeks of insincere politician. Even the Republican reporters following him have commented on how awkward he is with the general public. Also, there is nothing in his record that he can run on because if he does, he’ll lose Republican votes. He used to be pro-choice and his RomneyCare plan included coverage for abortions. He’s going to get eaten alive once the GOP voters find out about that.

      I am most worried about Perry. However, for the general election, Obama’s team should just be able to run an ad of Perry repeatedly calling for Texas to secede.

      My biggest worry was that the GOP primary won’t be competitive and the nominee will emerge unscathed. With Perry jumping in, we are guaranteed a long primary fight that will be dirty and expensive. Just what Democrats need.

      • 314 GGail
        August 8, 2011 at 6:22 pm

        askew, what’s Perry’s approval rating in his OWN state of Texas? We the People have got to LEARN the facts.

        • 315 askew
          August 8, 2011 at 6:34 pm

          It’s about average for governors between 40-50%. It’s better than Obama’s in Texas though. I think Obama beats Perry in the general, but Perry makes it the tightest race because he has so much money and he is a good politician. Romney and Bachmann have too many negatives to make it a close race IMO.

          • 316 GGail
            August 8, 2011 at 7:44 pm

            This from a Dallas Tx newspaper poll:

            50% of Texans approve of the job Gov. Rick Perry is doing, but

            61% don’t want him to run for president

    • 318 GGail
      August 8, 2011 at 6:28 pm

      Senator Barack Obama was the “Impossible Candidate” and look what God did. If we once again work for the good of God, then there is NOBODY that we should “worry” about.

    • 319 isonprize
      August 8, 2011 at 6:34 pm

      No worries. At all. Just keep moving forward. I’m IN!! Voter registrations. Monitor the suppression activities. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!

    • 320 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 8, 2011 at 10:20 pm

      I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG ROMNEY WILL BE THE GOP NOMINEE. No one is listening. 😕

  60. 321 GGail
    August 8, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    I am so proud of our President. He is strong, clear and straightforward! OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!

  61. August 8, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Good googa mooga…Randi Rhodes is holding tough trying to explain to a teaball nut who doesn’t understand the difference between the Debt Ceiling and and the Budget (new spending vs old spending). I am now CLEAR why these teaballs are so clueless. They think that this downgrade is a GOOD thing because it’s FORCING the country to be responsible with managing the purse. ‘Why, this is what reasonable families do when they sit at the table to create a budget.’ (multiple head slaps) Common sense aside, I’m still baffled as to where this outrage was when Bush was TRULY spending money like all you had to do was to go to the big printer down the street and print some more.

    • 325 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 4:00 pm

      I was listening to that shit and I was saying “this dude does not have a FUCKING CLUE what he is talking about!”

      Of course the asshole hung up after Randi Rhodes took his ass to the cleaners, clueless fuck! 😡 😡 😡 😡

      • August 8, 2011 at 4:06 pm

        LOL…Tell us what you REALLY think, nintendo!! Seriously, this afternoon was the first time I thought, ‘here is what these dumb shits really think…’ I thought I knew but listening to that jerk and then the recording from the tea party rally that Randi played, I’m thinking these idiots think they are doing the country a FAVOR.

      • 327 desertflower
        August 8, 2011 at 4:24 pm

        Crap…missed that:( I love when she schools stupid ignorant fools.She knows her stuff and she NEVER backs down! Which is exactly what WE have to do:)

    • 328 MTmarilyn
      August 8, 2011 at 4:24 pm

      Thanks for the reminder of Randi. I am just now checking in and forgot about Randi until now. I also missed the Presidents speech. This is so crazy. It does scare me about where we would be if we didn’t have this President. The tearepubs really want this country to fall. I don’t think they have any idea what they really want. They are so angry and so run by the Koch brothers and others. I do believe in the people of this country. We will win. All of us here at TOD and other places are doing things. We are fired up and ready to go.

      Thanks everyone!

  62. 329 LYNND
    August 8, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    That’s right Mr. President, to hell with S&P (Sh**&Pi**) somebody should be rating and downgrading their incompetent azzes.

  63. 331 Xtine
    August 8, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Just met a lady in my elevator, we’re strangers to each other. Her solution is that we need to wipe out those crazies in congress & not our retirement funds. Wipe them all out, were her words! Ta-dah — the Word is out!

  64. 333 Blue
    August 8, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    Randi Rhodes is always right on point! If you would like to listen, see link!

    http://www.ktlkam1150.com/mediaplayer/

  65. 337 gd4pbo
    August 8, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    I was just reading on CNN’s ticker that the RNC/Rince Prius wants the President to fire Tim Geithner. I can hear them now: No confirmation without spending cuts!

    Good thing Mr.Geithner decided to stay.

    • August 8, 2011 at 4:31 pm

      there are so many, many unpleasant things I could say about RNC chair Unpronouceablename Douchebag, but i won’t. Much like his predecessor, he’ll be fired soon.
      ps- Ms. Chips, can we start a new thread? I’ve used up my quota of cursing per thread, soooooooooo, I’m a bit stymied until the next one comes up…… cursing is such a hard habit to break 😕

    • 340 Lovepolitics2008
      August 8, 2011 at 4:58 pm

      They know that Mr. Geitner is tired and has been seriously considering to go do something else. They’re playing mind games.

  66. August 8, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Randi just called Lindsey Graham on his alternative lifestyle……… I’ve always thought so, but…………..

    • August 8, 2011 at 4:31 pm

      So glad she did. Graham is an hypocrite. Like all republicans.

    • 345 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 6:16 pm

      Ick. That’s beneath the belt especially since there is no proof Graham is gay. Just rumors. If Randi has proof, then let’s hear it. Otherwise, that is no better than Republicans spreading rumors that Obama was born in Kenya.

      • 346 utaustinliberal
        August 8, 2011 at 6:37 pm

        Lisa kinda got it wrong. Randi wasn’t calling on Lyndsey Graham to come out of the closet. She played a video reel where Graham was bashing the teaparty for their lack of compromise and then the teaparty had a mini rally where the leader bashed Graham and said that Graham has a well known well kept Washington secret. He said Harry Reid knows the secret, the dems know the secret, some of the GOP knows the secret and now he is going to expose the secret to the electorate. He then said that Graham should come out and embrace his alternative lifestyle. The next day, Graham backtracked on his call out of the teaparty and began attacking President Obama for not “compromising.” The reason Randi played this clip was to explain that since then Graham has been too scared to criticize the teaparty. Even when they were called out by Howard Dean on Face The Nation, Graham point blank refused to even hint at a criticism of the teaparty. Randi just explained that the teaparty seems to have some weird hold on the GOP, they bully, threaten, abuse, and the GOP cave. Even the seemingly moderate republicans.

  67. 350 Esther
    August 8, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    I am a big supporter of PBO but wish he had said something new this morning. How about calling congressional leadership to the White House this week? How about one bold new initiative? This is an opportunity for him to show his stuff and I fear he is missing the mark.

    • 351 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 4:33 pm

      How is he missing the mark, by continuing to call for compromise?

      You’re starting to sound a lot like PL, the man has shown his stuff which is why he is outpolling both Democrats and Republicans in handling the debt ceiling crisis. What the fuck does he have to prove? He’s got crazies in the House who nearly led the nation to default and are responsible for S&P downgrading our credit rating and they are CHEERING.

      Get off the political theatrics and be glad that PBO continues to be the adult in the room. Political theatrics get NOTHING accomplished, just ask Alan Grayson, Anthony Wiener, and Russ Feingold.

      • 352 COS
        August 8, 2011 at 4:38 pm

        This Esther question repeats exactly what Nora O’Donnell and the childhish reporters said at the presser this morning.

    • August 8, 2011 at 4:34 pm

      Are you even paying attention?

    • August 8, 2011 at 4:37 pm

      What would have been the purpose of calling back the do-nothing repugs from their 5 week paid vacation? What would they do now, willingly, that they spent the last 7 months unwilling to do? What bold new initiatives should he have unveiled? The most important thing is JOBS. PBO has stated this repeatedly because it’s the truth. PBO cited and listed all the things that can help the economy that has bipartisan support, but that our do-nothing congress refuse to do. PBO has showed his stuff and has been on mark since before this know-nothing congress came into power.

    • 355 joyce
      August 8, 2011 at 4:38 pm

      I think he’s doing just fine. I like the fact that he is his own person and don’t crater to everyone’s advice or go which ever the wind blows. A lot of people that haven’t followed him sometimes wish he would have should have or didn’t do or say what they thought he should do. But I am a true supporter and just accept the fact that he need our help and that God has the rest

    • 356 hopefruit2
      August 8, 2011 at 4:41 pm

      Esther, the president doesn’t need to say anything “new” at this point. He said what needed to be said. He already has shown his stuff numerous times – which is why all these crises are being manufactured by the likes of the media, PL, and Republican Party.

      This is an opportunity for you and I (we the people) to show OUR stuff and get to the streets to show those bullies in the media, Republican party and PL that we will not stand (or sit) by idly while they destroy this country in their petty attempts to take down the President.

      • August 8, 2011 at 11:46 pm

        You so on point Hopefruit2…..While we all here complaining about what the Media is or not saying…We should be our own Media…taking it to the street…or we can sit… as a majority and watch a re-run of 2010…

      • 358 Eleroy
        August 9, 2011 at 12:55 am

        Sorry but I do believe I remember “Esther” from BWD’s site. The hand-wringing and wishing President Obama had said something “new” and the “he is missing the mark” are the very same refrains from her time at BWD’s!!!

        Heaven help us if this what we are going to be dealing with in addition to fighting the rightwing/PL nuts!!!

    • 359 majii
      August 8, 2011 at 5:40 pm

      PBO isn’t missing the mark, Esther, but the MSM certainly is. Instead of reporting what he says, the media entertainers turn all news into a case of, “Will PBO____?/ PBO is responsible for___/PBO should/could have___.” They never say anything about the role of Congress in helping to solve the nation’s problems. They make it all about PBO, when it isn’t. The Constitution itself is the result of a compromise between large and small states and slave and free states. That PBO continues to pursue compromise is very American. That the MSM refuses to highlight the importance of compromise in our government is un-American because it is leading millions of Americans to believe that an American president has the powers of a dictator, when he doesn’t.

    • 360 EDP4BHO
      August 8, 2011 at 7:45 pm

      Esther, while I read all the responses to your comment, my takeaway is that you feel a bit uneasy about all the vitriole toward him, and you want it to change. If I’m incorrect, please accept my apology, but I’m sharing with you that I feel as you do, and had expressed my pain for him over the weekend. I am actually fighting mad, and I understand your need to see something different, which is not a criticism directly of PBO. I’m thinking most of us are feeling a bit weary of all the lies and hate he receives daily, and we all want and need to harness the power to help him do battle. In other words, we want action, so I understand. We just have to be able to separate what we feel from what he needs to do to govern. It is hard watching him go through so much, and we all have our ideas and wishes of recourses we would take if we could. I don’t see it as you not supporting him. Quite the contrary. This is why I’ve always hated politics.

    • August 8, 2011 at 9:16 pm

      Esther, first thanks for your stating that you are a big supporter of PBO. However, I regret that: I .wish he had said something new this morning”. Esther, he did say something new this morning. He told us what the WH(he our President) told us what he thought about the Standard Poors’s downgrade. How about how he felt about he and the nation are trying to process the loss of 30 plus military in their mission this weekend. Loss of a life of anyone of our service men and women ANY DAY is and should be a deep concern of we as a people in this nation and the world. Then, you stated that he was “missing his mark.” Now Esther what ‘mark’ was that? And then the one “bold new initiative.” What did you have in mind. Being that this is school time for millions in our nation, what about the announcement which the President also worked on with the Sec. of Education, Arnie Duncan and the WH ,Domestic Policy Council Director, Melody Barnes on the LNCB waiver for the coming school year for many of our schools in the nation? Oh, and something new like calling the Congressional Leadership to the WhiteHouse this week.? Remember he has tried that one many times. Remember those, Esther? Esther, I am not being rude or upset because Chipsticks and most of all I am not a person who operates like that, but it is this type of comment that I feel moves us no closer to our positive goals with the President as we try to work together for the good of the great nation. I hope that you will not get yourself upset( I am really loving and concern when I say that) with the President this morning. We are here to look out for each other. I hope that you will have some peace and treat yourself to something beautiful this evening. Esther, do not be worried. I am concerned about your feeling. No that you are not alone in all of this. We are family here who want to listen, be caring, be respectful, and try to give our shoulders wide enough for understanding for worries. Be calm to yourself, promise me, okay? I am loving serious okay. He has this. I love you back so much, Esther. I hope you will take my comments with love and care, because that is what concerns me first. I do not want you worrying.

    • 363 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 9, 2011 at 12:16 am

      As I shake my head……………..some of you folks still don’t get it. hmmm……………… 🙄

  68. 364 Blue
    August 8, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Congress is on vacation, and these lazy bastards wouldn’t come, unless President was offering them Corporate money! Must be nice to be a congressman, with 1 week off every month, along with August, October, November, December, February, and April off. S180,000 a year salary, best health care money can buy, life time pension, and all the Corporate money you can spend.

  69. 365 nintendowii10
    August 8, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    I love how Randi Rhodes pointed out that if the US were a corporation, PBO would have fired all the Republicans because they don’t know how to run a budget, love her! 🙂

  70. August 8, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    Wow. He looks GORGEOUS in that first picture. O_O

  71. 371 carolyn
    August 8, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    .And…just to be mean, they didn’t even go into official recess….so they held the president hostage again so that he can’t make any recess appointments!!! But….they don’t work. I say, don’t pay them until they get back to work, and take away their health insurance until they raise revenues and get us out of this hole!!!

  72. 372 utaustinliberal
    August 8, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    The people who run S&P are a bunch of petty fucktards. It came out today that the top ratings guy at S&P didn’t study economics, accounting, business or anything connected to a business or economics major. He instead studied wait for it….. literature and philosophy. Are you fucking kidding me? Nothing wrong with literature and philosophy, but how the heck does that give you credibility to be a top head honcho at a credit ratings agency? What? Do you spout Shakespeare or conduct a soliloquy on the writings of Aristotle? This is the guy who now gets to decide that the US is due a downgrade? More evidence that this downgrade had nothing to do with our economy or ability to pay our debts; the guy who is the CEO of S&P is Harold McGraw III of the McGraw-Hill legacy. He heavily backs Mitt Romney for President. When Romney was Governor of Massachusetts, he created only about 1 million jobs from 2003-2007 and Massashusetts was 47th in job creation, yet S&P CEO gave Romney and Massachusetts an unprecendeted credit rating upgrade. Are you freaking kidding me? Everyone knows Warren Buffet likes, admires, respects PBO and is supporting him for re-election. Buffet’s company Berkshire-Hathaway is a solid solid solid company. Today, Buffet came out and supported PBO’s stance that S&P was wrong for the downgrade, that it should have gone the route of Moody’s and Fitch who collectively said that any further debt discussions MUST include tax revenues, but for now they believe the US is worthy of AAA credit rating and is the safest place for any business investor. What did S&P do to Buffet in retaliation? They just downgraded Berkshire-Hathaway. Anyone in the media or GOP, who says this is not partly political or petty payback at the dems for calling them up to congress and holding their feet to the fire for their role in the mess of 2008 or the regulations that President Obama instituted is a liar and is highly unintelligent.

    • August 8, 2011 at 4:43 pm

      SAPs absolute *^^%$%&%^&*%%&*((^$$####&)_)))_#@
      ps- it hurts to not put the actual words. 😦
      pps- Randi talked about them downgrading Berkshire-Hathaway and about how they aided in the development of our recession. PBO was right when he said that it’s “amateur hour at SAPs.”

      • 377 Sue in Minnesota
        August 8, 2011 at 8:24 pm

        Seems like it’s time to find a new rating agency. Who regulates them, if anybody. And people act like we don’t need regulating agencies overseeing over businesses…….they’ll raid, plunder and steal left to their own devices…they work really hard coming up with ways to do it anyway.

        I am dreaming of a far away island, lets take the Obama’s and start our own country. And for our friend Tally, the guys wear sarongs!

    • 378 Xtine
      August 8, 2011 at 4:50 pm

      Wow, I didn’t hear about S&P & B-H! Good grief! Isn’t it amazing how they’re showing their colors. Now, let them stand up there & lie that it’s not playing dirty politics on behalf of their narrow interests via their lap dogs. Last time it took so much for people to wake up — losing a huge chunk of their retirement funds — will they please wake up and vote with their brains, self-preservation, you name it? No one can tell me that they’re blind to these shenanigans.

    • 379 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 4:51 pm

      Even S&P admit they are full of shit and that this downgrade was based SOLELY on politics.

      Heck, even PBO effectively stated that they are full of shit (he didn’t come out and say it, but he did allude to it when he said “We are still a AAA nation, no matter what some credit rating agency says”) 🙂

    • 380 GGail
      August 8, 2011 at 5:59 pm

      As Alan Simpson says – expose, expose, expose!!!!!

  73. August 8, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    I love love love that second pic of the President. So dashingly handsome and fierce.

    I would faint if he ever looked at me like that.

  74. 384 lmrj
    August 8, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    Romney is the candidate. They are just playing out theatre right now stalling for time until the primary season is over. The money boys want a candidate that they think can beat PBO. I firmly believe this. Perry is running on his egO. The same reason KKK notable David Dukes toyed with running. I really think the secessionist would be a gift to PBO.

    • August 8, 2011 at 5:26 pm

      I agree with you. It’s his turn and the GOP doesn’t change it’s stripes. So we must focus on exposing him. I hate to say this, but what’s his view on Warren Jeffs whose part of the LDS like Romney is? They would ask Pres Obama this question.

    • 388 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      August 9, 2011 at 12:44 am

      Good god….. 😯 Finally someone that is living in the REAL world. I have felt for the past 3 to 4 months that Romney will be the GOP nominee. He polls the closest to PBO. Plus he has the Good Ole Boy establishment behind him. And he is slippery, slick, dull, and easy to manipulate. Perfect puppet for his Corporate Masters. 😕

  75. 389 donna dem 4 obama
    August 8, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    TOD’ers If you can spare 15 minutes, 30 minutes or an hour today can you please help us GOTV in Wisconsin for tomorrows election?

    You can make calls right from the comfort of your home at this link:
    http://www.calloutthevote.com

  76. 392 lamh34
    August 8, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    And Tweety leads the show with the dow’s drop and “What is Your Plan Mr President”. Tweety says that the President came out today and blamed the downgrade on the Tea Party. Accordign to Tweety, “it’s not the time for blame Mr President…it’s time for leadership”. And then Tweety brings out Ed Rendell and Michael Steele to discuss it the President’s lack of leadership. I’ve already switched the channel.

    And that is what the MSM takes away from the Presidents Press Conference. But hey, next time President Obama needs to try harder.

    I’d be interested to see how the “national news” anchors cover it, cause the “partisan” press has already taken a side.

    • August 8, 2011 at 5:20 pm

      I’ve already sent that spitty-mouth fool two tweets. It’s ridiculous. All week he’s been doing his special comments blaming the t-party and the republicans rightly so. Guess his corporate masters gave him the game plan for today. Rendel is a slimy bastard who hasn’t gotten the upstart black guy being smarter and beating his girl, Hillary. Michael Steele is an uncle tom who hates his self.

    • 395 utaustinliberal
      August 8, 2011 at 5:27 pm

      I saw Chris Matthews. He’s full of stupid hot air talk and no action. He kept saying that PBO was timid and weak and couldn’t come up with a deal that could bring both sides together. He then said that if PBO had a real plan on the table and yelled at the teaparty, then they would have agreed to tax revenues. Rendell & Steele concurred and continued the Obama bashing. For a supposedly smart person, Matthews is STUPID. There was a $4 trillion grand bargain on the table that included cuts + revenues. Boehner walked away from that deal 3 times and Cantor walked out twice. They both WALKED OUT. The amnesia the media displays when they’re giving an analysis of who’s to blame for this mess is astounding. Chris then mentioned some NY Governor in the past who during hard times was able to corral dems and repubs together and get a jobs bill. First of all, NY is a state, not a country. The governor never had to deal with this set of nutjobs who were ok with default and cheered when they found S&P had downgraded us. NY is mostly liberal, the state legislature is not like the federal legislature where we have reps from 50 states with differing political ideologies. Chris seems to forget that PBO is facing a divided govt; he’s not some CEO that can fire the teabaggers as much as he would like to. It’s up to us voters to kick them out and give PBO a dem house and senate aka a functioning government.

    • 402 Lovepolitics2008
      August 8, 2011 at 5:36 pm

      I’m getting very very concerned. Those guys are on full panic mode and are not even rational anymore. Or either they have an agenda. I don’t know what President Obama can do at this point. I think he should confront the Clintonites, privately. This is getting out of hand.

      • 403 hopefruit2
        August 8, 2011 at 6:04 pm

        That’s why we need to start exposing them. Showing videos of them saying one thing during week 1, and the opposite during week 2. Show the media pundits as flip-flopping corporate slaves who value their six-figure paychecks over honesty and integrity. The MSM is helping the Republicans because the GOP party cannot stand on it’s own. So it needs a propaganda machine to disguise, distort, deceive, and destroy. That’s the role of media. Confuse the public and undermine the President’s message at every opportunity. And then turn around and regurgitate hackneyed talking points about his not being a leader. The media needs to exposed as much as the Tea Party.

        • August 8, 2011 at 6:19 pm

          I am not tech savvy and I don’t have the funds, but if I did, I would create or would be willing to pay someone to do precisely this. The media has to be exposed. I don’t like it when some say, just leave them be, that’s who they are. No. I want to take the media on. I want to show tapes of them reel after reel and if I had to pay people to make it go viral if I had the funds, I would.

          Besides what they are doing to this president, they are doing a great disservice to the country. I have a 14-year-old that’s growing up in this country. This is his future. What the media condones by way of treating a manufactured crisis by the GOP to fester into something that has led to this catastrophe today is unconscionable.

          The news media looked the other way and some cheered George Bush into a disastrous war and look where we are today. For me it is a deep, deep passion. I want the people in the media held responsible those wittingly distort or participate in a campaign that hurts us all.

          I am sorry, but the media to my mind, has contributed to much of what has gone wrong in this country in the last decade or so.

        • 405 EDP4BHO
          August 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm

          hopefruit2, I was thinking this on the way home from work this evening. What we can do, especially since this site and Chips has been noticed by msm recently, is gather all info we have bookmarked, and with some research, find counter positions on the topics. Then, formulate them into parallel narratives. We have got to get busy. I am starting to take notes from Randi, Rev Al, Obama sites, etc., and will go back to the info I gathered during the ’08 and ’10 campaigns. I was going to do this anyway to use as handouts for 2012, but the info is invaluable for this type of movement.

    • 406 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 6:22 pm

      I am so damn sick of Democrats who know better going on TV to do nothing but bash the president. It is only a small handful of Dems, but they make the party look bad and also bury the Dem party’s talking points. Rendell is just pissed Obama beat Hillary, which killed any chance Rendell would get a cabinet post in the next admin.

    • 407 EDP4BHO
      August 8, 2011 at 7:02 pm

      They do not want a black man in the Whitehouse. As mentioned down thread, we all have to devise something really biting to get back at these devils… . yes, they are devils. Left and right, black and white, young and old, gay and straight, liberal and conservative, rich and poor……who’s got his back but folks like us who show our support daily on blog such as this? There has to be someone who occasions this site, so I’m calling him/her out. HELP. We need your technical skills, we will donate the money I’m sure, but we have to get this ship sailing TOD’ers.

  77. 408 Anonymous
    August 8, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    I am watching Chris Matthews who has Ed Rendell and Michael Steel on and they are so negative on PO. So sad – they seem to think they have all the answers. So why don’t they help instead of hinder.

  78. August 8, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Such an interesting and thoughtful thread. Thank you all for your wisdom and support of each other and our President. In that close-up picture. Look at his eyes. Something very intriguing, I can’t put my finger on it but I think he is happiest when he talks directly to the people. He knows we love and pray for him sending warm thoughts and energy his way. I truly believe he knows that and it gives him the strength and power to carry on. We have your back Mr. President and will never waver in our support. Let’s continue to light a candle for him at gratefulness. org. It has be glowing steadily for over 2 1/2 years now. Just type in PBO under group. Again thank you Chips for this site and your dedication. You will be rewarded. Also, give your lovely 80 year young mother a kiss from us.

  79. August 8, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    After our storm ended, I went to the grocery store. Put XM on POTUS and Pete Dominic. His guest was John Sakowicz–The Truth About Money and guess he is on KZYX because he mentioned that couple times. I’ve heard him on Pete’s show a number of times. He usually makes fairly good, logical sense. Today his “take” is that this is Republicans, Democrats and President Obama. He talked about the circus we saw from Congress–both sides, according to him. 😦 then, he said that PO is Wall Streets’ Manchurian candidate….that he has given WS everything they want the past 2.5 yrs. He talked about all the profits they’ve made and how HE has done nothing to regulate them, etc., etc. Then, he said, “And I really blame the American people”….and began to talk about the uprisings in the ME this spring and how the American people should/need to take a lesson from those people. He mentioned some author (don’t remember) who wrote a book number of years ago predicting that this day would come in USA–the growing income gap–and the author predicted that the American people would take it “lying down.”

    • 412 desertflower
      August 8, 2011 at 5:35 pm

      Was it “The Shock Doctrine”? Naomi Klein

    • August 8, 2011 at 5:42 pm

      WHAT exactly has PBO given Wall Street? They hate him with a vengeance. PBO fought for financial reforms, which finally resulted in Dodd-Franks legislation, consumer protections and the resulting agency that Elizabeth Warren brought into being and he is fighting for tax increases for hedge fund traders. People just make stuff up to sound like they are experts when they don’t even follow what is happening.

      • August 8, 2011 at 6:04 pm

        That is exactly what I thought as I listened to him. He talked about the Dodd-Frank legislation, but said it was “watered down” and did very little.

      • 417 nintendowii10
        August 8, 2011 at 6:05 pm

        LOL… This is also the same PBO that bailed out the auto industry against the wishes of Wall Street, yet the PL call him a Wall Street puppet.

  80. 418 desertflower
    August 8, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    YEA! RANDI!!!!! Calling out people that don’t vote and telling them to VOTE and to give PBO the congress he needs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YES!

    • 419 Ladyhawke
      August 8, 2011 at 6:11 pm

      df, when we had Speaker Nancy Pelosi, there were bill signings every other week. She was the best partner President Obama could have had. She was a work horse and she got things done. She was the best Speaker of the House. How many bill signings have you seen in the last seven months with Speaker In Name Only John Boehner?? Everything has come to a complete halt. The only way President Obama can get anything done is with public/private partnerships because those deals can’t be filibustered.

      And another thing, for all those folks who complained about President Obama trying to do too much in the first two years (you know like healthcare reform) does anyone think it would have been a good idea to hold off until 2011? President Obama knew he had to strike while the iron was hot and get as much done as possible while he had majorities in the House and Senate. I am so glad he did that.

      Randi Rhodes is right. The only way to get anything done is to give President Obama a majority in the House and the Senate again in 2012. We will have to fight those stupid birther bills in the red states and the GOP attempt to disenfranchise voters at every turn. The only way they win in 2012 is by rigging the election.

      • 420 EDP4BHO
        August 8, 2011 at 6:38 pm

        ” President Obama knew he had to strike while the iron was hot and get as much done as possible while he had majorities in the House and Senate”

        I have belabored this point for 2 years now, because it simply makes sense and is just truth. Folk act as though PBO just stepped into politics in 2007, as though he hadn’t a clue of the inner workings of government with its partisanship. If they’d take a listen to his earlier speeches, they’d see how well aware he was, which is why he ran on trying to close that partisan gap. And some even have the nerve to say, he did not know how hard it would be. He always told us it was not going to be easy, and admittedly he did say he hadn’t realized the severity of entrenchment. Still, he DID KNOW it was going to be difficult to change Washington. I understood as well why he opposed his staff in saying he should not tackle health care reform at the time.

      • 421 desertflower
        August 8, 2011 at 7:07 pm

        Absolutely. No argument from me!

  81. 422 desertflower
    August 8, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    She’s talking about having CBO scoring the public option to save 1Trillion…how could they say no to that!

    • 423 COS
      August 8, 2011 at 6:13 pm

      Now, I see Bob Shrum talking about the President calling back congress and postponing his vacation to deal with this mess. Is this a new republican and democratic talking point? Wow!!!

      • 424 Lovepolitics2008
        August 8, 2011 at 6:24 pm

        Problem is that President Obama has to demonstrate he’s not panicking. He’ll wait a couple of days. And the pressure towards republicans has to build up a bit. The business community is getting nervous and they’ll push their “friends” in the GOP to stop the hostage-taking. That’s not fun anymore.

      • 425 nintendowii10
        August 8, 2011 at 6:26 pm

        Seriously, I was disappointed with both Bob Shrum and Dana Millbank for saying what the President should do, this isn’t Monday Night Quarterback where we can decide what our team should do to take out the opposing team. They need to shut up and let Mr. Obama do his fucking job!

      • 426 majii
        August 8, 2011 at 10:20 pm

        I see no reason for PBO to call Congress back into session. For what reason? The republicans will only come back and do what they’ve been doing all along: refuse to work on a jobs bill, refuse to compromise with PBO and the dems in Congress on anything, and run in front of every camera they can find to tell more lies. Let the tools have their August recess while we work on some counter strategies. I’ve read several proposed strategies on TOD that I like and would be more than willing to support.

  82. 427 criquet
    August 8, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    I think we need to emphasize that Mood’s and Fitch have NOT downgraded the Us and that this discredited rating agency is most suspect and should be viewed with skepticism for what seems to be a very political move.

    Also, Steve Benen has a great post about the market reaction and that it is not about the downgrade because as a result of the stock fall off , investors are going for the safest investments- U S bonds!!!
    This is also something that should be spread as far as possible

    “August 08, 2011 4:50 PM
    It’s not the downgrade
    As you’ve likely heard, it was another exceedingly unpleasant day on Wall Street today, but the AP account included one especially interesting sentence.

    Investors worried about the slowing U.S. economy, escalating debt problems threatening Europe and the prospect that fear in the markets would reinforce itself, as it did during the financial crisis in the fall of 2008.

    They desperately looked for safe places to put their money and settled on U.S. government debt — even though those were the targets of the downgrade Friday, when S&P removed the United States from its list of the lowest-risk countries. [emphasis added]

    The whole point of the Standard & Poor’s downgrade was to cast doubt on U.S. debt, given the political instability caused by unhinged Republicans. And the first trading after the S&P downgrade, anxiety-ridden investors turned to … U.S. debt.

    The massive market selloffs, in other words, weren’t the result of the downgrade. If they were, U.S. bonds wouldn’t be considered a safe harbor.

    As for the recent downturn, when Wall Street rang the opening bell four weeks ago today, both the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500 stood at nearly three-year highs.

    And here’s what the Dow has looked like since.

    In case anyone’s interested, this shows a loss of about 15% over the course of the last 11 trading days. That … what’s the phrase I’m looking for … not good.

    For comparison’s sake, when the 2008 crash began with the fall of Lehman, the Dow lost 22% of its value in over the course of 10 days.”

    by Steve Benen

  83. 428 nintendowii10
    August 8, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Rev Al: “Dumping on the President is NOT a plan.”

    The professional left need to get a clue and quit dumping, hating, and kneecapping the President and come up with an actual PLAN!!!

    • 429 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 6:52 pm

      Wow, that is a perfect statement right there. If I still posted on DK, that would be my signature. Great comment by Al.

  84. 430 Bobfr
    August 8, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    My letter to the President today, 8 August 2011

    Dear Mr President,

    During your statement this morning you did, yet again, what you frequently and skillfully accomplish.

    You drew a crystal clear distinction and a timely, essential lesson for all Americans.

    As you concluded your remarks on the downgrade you turned your attention and palpable empathy to those fine Americans killed in Afghanistan this past weekend. You noted the highly diverse yet how spectacularly dedicated and functional are the men and women whom serve in the military.

    In sharp contrast all Americans have witnessed, particularly since Jan 2011, the ideological and intentionally dysfunctional Republican members of Congress whom have caused considerable damage to our reputation and fiscal stability.

    Long ago I realized it would be unlikely that I might think of something you haven’t already considered. So, please accept the following in that spirit.

    Please consider addressing all Americans, but call upon one specific subset of Americans to place the well-being of all Americans as their highest priority.

    Please specifically ask the wealthiest 4 % of Americans and all corporate CEOs to pick up the phone and not only call their Congressional Representatives but also call their lobbyists and the press and assert their influence in four specific ways:

    1. Close the 180 tax ‘loopholes’ identified by the Bowles, Simpson Commission;

    2. Call for the simplification of the tax code as recommended by the Bowles, Simpson commission;

    3. Call for an immediate extension in the payroll tax credit;

    4. Call for an immediate extension in unemployment insurance.

    Ask those with the most to do something most of them have never been challenged to do, place themselves on the line for America the way those 30 Seals did this past weekend.

    Thank you,
    Bob

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • August 8, 2011 at 7:26 pm

      Thank you kindly Bob.

      I am always impressed by your letters..but most importantly your consistency

    • 432 prettyfoot58
      August 8, 2011 at 7:30 pm

      Send that letter to the Reublicans in the house and senate..they are the ones who need to see it…..

    • 433 GGail
      August 8, 2011 at 8:54 pm

      Thank you Bobfr. These are Action Items we, the American people can also request of our Congressional Representatives, via email, call, and/or tweet. And also place on FB for others to copy. YES..WE..CAN! And YES…I…WILL!

  85. August 8, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Does anyone know if the President’s DNC Event will be broadcast live?

    I see he will deliver remarks at 6:40 p.m.

    and at 7:40 p.m.

  86. August 8, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    If someone could get a transcript of Pete Dominic’s show and the segment with John Sakowicz we could get the name of that author. I may try going to Pete’s website later and see what I can find.

  87. August 8, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    ATTENTION: Please, I’m begging you. Call, fax, tweet Harry Reid and tell him NOT to put Joe Manchin on the super committee. Joe Manchin just asked to be on it. NO NO NO.

    • 438 askew
      August 8, 2011 at 6:54 pm

      I emailed him and tweeted him not to put Manchin on the committee and I reminded him that during the last controversial vote Manchin hid in the Senate cloak room to avoid having to vote.

      • 439 Ladyhawke
        August 8, 2011 at 7:23 pm

        I just sent Senator Reid an email begging him not to appoint Senator Joe Manchin to the supper committee. I said I didn’t trust Manchin and that he might as well be a Republican. He is constantly stabbing President Obama in the back. He is not a team player. I said NO, NO, NO, A THOUSAND TIMES NO TO JOE MANCHIN. Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.

    • August 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm

      I sent him an email through Senate.gov. I will tweet it as well.

  88. 442 Tulips
    August 8, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    This is what im talking about. Go Detroit! they are not have the tavis and west show. http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/detroiters-protest-smiley-and-west-anti-obama-event-at-city-hall

    • August 8, 2011 at 7:05 pm

      Thanks for posting this Tulips. This is what I am talking about. I am glad to see people are not buying West and Smiley’s snake oil. My sister who lives in Maryland told me that she listened to Steve Harvey this morning and he was on fire. She said he told Tavis that he knew him for a long time and that he (Tavis) was not donating not a dime to this cause but was going out to stir trouble.

      She said he said that if West and Smiley had to pay for the bus on their own, they would be riding in a van. She said he asked Tavis where was his poverty bus during the Bush years, I think.

      I hope they get a lot of push back from this. They better not show up in my town.

    • 446 hopefruit2
      August 8, 2011 at 7:12 pm

      Thank you Tulips. These fools need to take their dog & pony show and get LOST!

    • 447 GGail
      August 8, 2011 at 9:04 pm

      Way to Go Detroit! Let’s hope these Snakes get the same treatment in every city!

    • 450 majii
      August 8, 2011 at 10:34 pm

      Love you, Tulips. Glad to see your posts! How you doing? (A little Wendy Williams here. LOL)

  89. August 8, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    President Obama has approved an additional $105 million for “urgent humanitarian relief efforts” in the Horn of Africa, White House press secretary Jay Carney announced in a statement Monday afternoon.

    CNN reported: Obama approves $10 million.

    These incompetent idiots.

  90. August 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    OMG Had to turn Tweetie off. Rendell and Michael Steele bashing the Pres. “What he should do is” If I hear it again Ill scream. And the President has some good poll numbers.
    Who is Tweetie loyal to? He switches on a dime.

    • 453 nintendowii10
      August 8, 2011 at 7:14 pm

      I hate Ed Rendell, he is a Hillary Clinton fan who would be kissing her behind if she were President and doing EXACTLY what PBO is doing.

      This is also the same Ed Rendell who admitted he did plenty of illegal things as Governor, we need to get rid of corrupt Democrats like him.

      As for Tweety, he wants to get into Sarah Palin’s panties and wants Rick Perry for President. Nuff said. 😉

    • 454 hopefruit2
      August 8, 2011 at 7:14 pm

      He’s loyal to his six-figure salary, his bush tax-cut and keeping his job as a pundit. At the end of the day, these are the three things that send thrills up his leg. NOTHING else matters to Tweety.

      • August 8, 2011 at 7:29 pm

        Who you all call “Tweety”, I call “Dennis the Menace Sr.” He looks and acts just like Dennis the Menace would be 50 years older. LOL!

        But you’re right about Chris Matthew’s true agenda. He’s a chameleon who changes “colors” from blue on his MSNBC show to red on his Sunday morning NBC show. So as Deion Sanders once said, “It MUST be the money”.

    • August 8, 2011 at 7:50 pm

      They’re lighting Chris up on twitter and I feel great because I joined in,

      I think his tune may change tommorrow.
      Some were commenting on his rudeness with his guests.
      I tore into him for his fickleness and going with what ever the meme is of the day, I also told him that he needs to get out of his bubble becasue the people are not as dumb as he makes them out to be because we know who started this fire.
      I tweeted all while the dow was climbing there were crickets coming from the media, but they take the fall in the dow to blame the president.
      I tweeted last year when the people sent the tparty to DC who knew they were arsonist bent on buring down the house to prove their point.

      lol….I feel better now.

      • August 8, 2011 at 8:32 pm

        Bjw2 as you know I just signed up for twitter yesterday. Where do I go to see the tweets you are talking about. I have been going to twitter.com.

        Thanks

        • 458 utaustinliberal
          August 8, 2011 at 8:40 pm

          You can write Chris Matthews’s name in the search box and you can see all the tweets mentioning his name. Or you type hardball and you can see tweets mentioning hardball. It also depends on if you’re following a lot of people and they’re calling out Chris, you get to see their tweets first and that’s how you know people are mad at Chris.

        • August 8, 2011 at 8:45 pm

          Africa, if you have started to add followers you will see a running scroll on your HOME page with comments from those that you follow.
          It may also include tweeters that they follow also……so the more people you add to your follow list, the more tweets you will receive on the scroll.

  91. August 8, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    I like the way the POTUS walks away from the shouting feeding frenzied media’s questions about the “downgrade” and “S & P” after he ended with a dedication to those soldiers who lost their lives over the past week. After he explained in detail what S & P’s “rating” really means for this country and immediately after such heartfelt and strong words regarding military loss and involvement, all THOSE insensitive MSM jerks cared about is getting a response to questions already answered just so they manipulate them to have a “story” to tell.

    That’s right Mr. President… just walk away. They’re not worthy of a response in this situation and YOU let them know when they will be at YOUR convenience.

    • 462 Ladyhawke
      August 8, 2011 at 7:35 pm

      You are hitting a nerve with this comment. This shouting of questions is disgusting. The White House Press Corps acts like an angry mob. They are uncouth and unprofessional. When you hear the questions they ask, you just have to shake your head. They are a pathetic bunch. Let’s fact it, they all intimidated by his brilliance. He makes them feel small. So their weapon of choice is to always look for the negative angle to any story about President Obama. They have lost all credibility because instead of facts we get gotcha, sarcasm and innuendo.

    • 464 GGail
      August 8, 2011 at 9:11 pm

      When he walked away with that sturdy swagger, I thought about the video where he kicks open the door and I got a tingle up my spine! Oooooh!

  92. 465 desertflower
    August 8, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/08/08/progressives-present-contract-for-the-american-dream-an-economic-plan-that-makes-sense/
    Take a read and let’s talk about this…I haven’t read it yet, but waht they said over at Political Carnival is that they are going to launch this in the NYT and then across the country. Comments??????????

    • August 8, 2011 at 7:55 pm

      At first glance/quick read, looks good to me. Van Jones is one of PO’s closest friends. Jan Schakowsky is FOR THE PEOPLE and jobs. The MoveOn guy–know nothing about him. Have to trust the other two. Thoughts from rest of you????????

    • 467 EDP4BHO
      August 8, 2011 at 7:56 pm

      desertflower, I just read that. Question: Didn’t Van Jones just say something negative against the Obama administration? Just curious, not against him, but a little surprised.

      • August 8, 2011 at 10:10 pm

        Van Jones has his moments. I think he’s more pragmatic than the PL but who knows. Hanging with MoveOn may change that.

        • 469 EDP4BHO
          August 8, 2011 at 11:07 pm

          Thanks gobrooklyn. It’s gotten a bit hard to get a response here with the onslaught of new posters. But hey, it’s all good 😀

          • 470 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
            August 9, 2011 at 1:13 am

            MoveOn.org is a Progressive movement, but they aren’t exactly Obama friendly. Now if Hillary were in the Whitehouse they would have her ENSHRINED on their Web Home page. 😕 This is the truth folks.

    • August 8, 2011 at 7:58 pm

      I agree with the American Dream contract in concept and principle. But as long as the Teapublicans (along with a few Blue Mutt Dems) and their lobbyist pimps are dominatIing the legislative process on the Hill just by their sheer numbers, it will remain just a “dream”. It’s MUCH easier to dream of and submit plans for a “more Perfect union” than it is to actually create it in a country that’s being governed by SO many willfully ignorant and self-centered people who are in that position because “attitude reflects leadership” in too many cases.

      Only when the American voting public “in general” wakes up and realizes lower taxes and less revenues, infrastructure and education divestment are counter-productive to economic stability and growth, only then can THAT American Dream become a reality.

    • August 8, 2011 at 10:12 pm

      Pat them on the back. They are actually going out there, outside of the PL comfort zone and doing something.

  93. 475 desertflower
    August 8, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    And just to give you all a smile or a cringe….whichever:) This is the picture that Randi must have been referring to today!
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/08/08/maybe-this-is-why-michele-bachmann-looked-that-way-on-her-newsweek-cover/ HONESTLY????????????????? Who doesn’t think this woman looks as certifiable as she is???

    • 476 Sue in Minnesota
      August 8, 2011 at 8:26 pm

      Possessed, please call in an exorcist, Stat!

    • 477 dotster
      August 8, 2011 at 8:32 pm

      I couldn’t figure out what the big deal was about the Newsweek cover. That’s how she ALWAYS looks—–wide eyed, bug eyed and wild eyed. It’s always creeped me out. Then after learning that she’s on drugs for migraines, I wondered if that was it, if she was on “a slow morphine drip” as Gawker or Wonkette surmised.

      • 478 Sue in Minnesota
        August 8, 2011 at 10:16 pm

        The right wingers are very obssessed with how their lady politicians look. They raged about Sarah’s Newsweek cover during the campaign.
        But what is really telling to me, is they always insist that somehow these women are being victimized. Hey Michelle Bachmann is very capable of producing that look, I have seen it several times in the past. Sarah posed in running shorts (with nylons on- yeah that spells athleticism) and they freaked out that the media was being mysogynistic. Shit she posed for the damn cover, are you suggesting to me she did not have a say in her wardrobe? What professional woman wears 5-6 inch leopard stilletos and a short black skirt , seated front and center to an audience of men, and wants us to believe we should take her seriously when discussing governmental policy. She is so lacking in anything substantive to say she needs to baffle them with her come-f-me shoes, and the chance to get a peek up her skirt. My absolute favorite, her blow up boobs, up one day, down the next, and back up three days later. Sarah who do you think you are fooling? I think she disgraces women….Michelle I think is crazy ideologically, but no words can describe my lack of respect for Palin.

        Wahh wahhh wahhh is all I have to say. Neither one of them is fit to open their mouths and comment on anything having to do with government. Seriously, that they have gotten as far as they have is an insult to the institution of government, and should be a source of embarassment to all reasonable Americans – (Minnesota district 6 I am talking to YOU!)

    • 479 GGail
      August 8, 2011 at 9:16 pm

      She has the look that babies have when they’re taking a dump in their diapers (gasp!).

  94. 481 desertflower
    August 8, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/08/01/if-you-hate-taxes-here-are-102-things-not-to-do/ A MUST HAVE>>>go to addictinginfo.org and get the list of all 102 things.Think of all the $$$ we could save if we disallowed those that hate taxes. Problem solved

  95. 482 lmrj
    August 8, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Thought this was a very interesting post by The People’s View:
    TEA PARTY HOSTAGE-TAKING BACKFIRES:
    Government Borrowing Costs Down, Democrats Poised to Recapture the House
    Monday, August 08, 2011 | Posted by Deaniac83 at 4:16 PM Email This

    Well, this ought go be a big fat middle finger in the face of the anti-government Teabaggers who were celebrating S& P’s downgrade of the United States. I am not sure the S&P had this in mind when they downgraded the credit-worthiness of the United States – that is, the value of US Treasury bonds. But in the middle of the stock market jumping off a Tea Party cliff today, the much less-attended to news is this: upon hearing the news that the US government bonds were downgraded, investors opted to sell their private stocks and move to… yup, government bonds! NPR’s Jacob Goldstein noted the irony:
    Stocks were down this morning, and the interest rate on Treasury bonds fell.

    In other words, bond investors’ first reaction after S&P’s downgrade of U.S. government debt was to be even more eager to lend money to the U.S. government.
    (more)
    http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2011/08/tea-party-hostage-taking-backfires.html
    backfires.html

    • 483 tao jones
      August 8, 2011 at 8:48 pm

      Actually I think S&P had one message clearly in mind: punish the GOP for caving to the nihilistic Tea Party. They are saying “don’t start believing that brinkmanship on the economy wont have consequences.”. This is Wall Street telling the GOP to stop smoking crack.

  96. August 8, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Man twitter is ablaze seems like people are pissed off at the media for trying to lay the blame at this president’s feet…even Barbra Streisand has joined the fray……….WoooOOOOOOHoooOOOOOO

    • 486 Ladyhawke
      August 8, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      That’s great news. Here is a very cleaver post at PoliticusUSA – “WHERE HAVE ALL THE JOURNALISTS GONE??”

      Pay No Attention To The Corporations Behind The News: Lost In Media Oz

      n a recent conversation with Thomas Bishop about the debt ceiling debacle, he wondered where have all the journalists gone? I wondered the same thing. Had they slowly been attritioned, replaced by shiny, smiley faux reporters who report the news from a sensationalistic perspective or an ideological one? Had they become disillusioned and tired from fighting the corporate overlords to get their stories told in their entirety? Or is the profession itself dying a slow agonizing death? Quite frankly something is very twisted wrong when an entertainment show reports on the debt ceiling and a news station reports on the Nikki Minaj wardrobe malfunction.

      http://www.politicususa.com/en/lost-in-oz

    • August 8, 2011 at 8:32 pm

      love Barbara! ” Barbara can you see me, Barbara can you hear me. Barbara….” She’s very fierce in politics. Love her. Now in the mood to watch Funny Girl, then Yentl.

    • August 8, 2011 at 8:44 pm

      any links to this please?

  97. 492 dotster
    August 8, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    We’re desperately in need of a new thread. I suggest Lawrence O’Donnell’s opening tonight—–laying it all on the line. Needs to be featured and spread like wildfire.

  98. August 8, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Will the real Mitt Romney Please Stand up

    This guy should have a Ph.D. in flip flopping.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/romney-obama-downgrade-flip-flop

  99. August 8, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    It’s so nice to read all the productive chatter here. I’ve been a little off since BWD announced her hiatus. Thanks to all for giving me a reality check!

  100. August 8, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    uhm…….. I missed the first 7 minutes, but was it just me or did Lawry eviscerate SAPs?

    • August 8, 2011 at 8:18 pm

      He made mince meat out of them…….The best take down of these basterds I’ve seen so far.

    • 498 Doris
      August 8, 2011 at 8:18 pm

      Yes he did. You have got to see Lawrence on this one Lisa. He took them to the cleaners. This is LO at his best. I’m sure he heard what Chris Matthews said today and I’m sure he was talking to him.

      • August 8, 2011 at 8:24 pm

        Doris we need to email C. Matthews and ask him if he heard Lawrence O’Donnell. Did you guys hear O’Donnell blame Obama? No, No, No. Why has the rest of the media felt the need to blame President Obama?

        • 500 Doris
          August 8, 2011 at 8:34 pm

          Girl, don’t get me started. I have pretty much tuned out the downgrade drama since it occurred. I will destroy my flat screen if I do. I got a glimpse, a glimpse, that’s all of CM on Andrea Mitchell today and I turned the channel when he said that the S&P had credibility. I can’t figure it out. I did see, believe it or not, John King correct Wolfe Blitzer today. He talked about how the Republicans had taken tax increases/revenues off the table and that this played a major part in the downgrade and the markets being down since. He also said that Europe was impacting our markets. But I just don’t understand our media. They are a disgrace and they are really hurting the President.

    • August 8, 2011 at 8:20 pm

      Did any of you guys hear O’Donnell ripping into S&P? Man he sure torn into them. WOW!!! I have heard other people say the same thing about S&P, and the part they played in the 2008 financial crisis.

  101. 509 utaustinliberal
    August 8, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    LOD’s opening segment was a thing of beauty to see, hear, and, behold. Twitter just about went orgasmic with how EPIC he and the opening segment were. EVERYONE has to watch it. He called the CEO’s behind S&P “The Confederacy of Dunces!!!!” Hahahaha… 😆 😆 Twitter is also on fire with the tongue lashing of Chris Matthews. He PISSED off a lot of people with his rabid bashing of President Obama and his bullish behavior. Also lots of people called out Melissa Harris Perry for somewhat getting on the Obama bashing bandwagon. Boy did she backtrack faster than you could say jack and started sending out tweets trying to “clarify” what she meant. More power to the people!

    • 511 Doris
      August 8, 2011 at 8:37 pm

      Oh, thanks UT, that was quick. Oh my Lord, thanks for keeping us non-twitters posted. I didn’t hear Melissa. I’m glad they got her tail too. Yes, more power to the people!!!!

    • August 8, 2011 at 8:37 pm

      I know UT it was a thing of beauty. I lit into Chris myself today….I think Chris will be changing his tune tomorrow.

      And even Barbra Striesand got in on the bashing of the media.

    • 513 ChristiMtl
      August 8, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      What did she say Ut? Was she on Hardball? I can’t stand Chris Matthew now! What a weirdo, he goes from one extreme to the other just like that.

      • August 8, 2011 at 8:55 pm

        I think Chris is slightly Bipolar and I mean this in a sincere way, this man mood swings are way too changeable. The screaming and the yelling one minute and then the quiet calm stare the next.

        One day he’s praising the president the next he’s calling weak an noneffective……..his view of the political system has become too unstable for me to watch him anymore.

    • 515 Suzanne holland
      August 8, 2011 at 9:06 pm

      Power to the people, yes! Sick & tired of constant whining with out facts of our President!

  102. 516 dotster
    August 8, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    OMG—-there’s Hagee comparing Perry to Abraham Lincoln—–right on my very own teevee screen——right before my very eyes. How much more preposterous and Cra-Zee can things get. It’s the Twilight Zone, for real!

  103. August 8, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    the thing I’m most looking forward to with Dick entering the race is going to be the head to head match up between Twit Romney and Dummy Dick. I’m actually shivering with glee! 🙂

  104. 524 Doris
    August 8, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    LO IS BACK!!!!!! 😀 😀 ;D

  105. August 8, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Lawry saying the media doesn’t focus on war, instead it focuses on tp crap and the downgrade. Sad but so damn true.

  106. August 8, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Lawrence’s takedown of Standard and Poor’s tonight was EPIC. Damn!

  107. 528 Doris
    August 8, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    God Bless those who have been lost and their families.

  108. 531 Sue in Minnesota
    August 8, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    I was just over at the Washington Monthly and a little article caught my eye. A group of House Democrats are working to dismantle the protection mechanism for Medicare and Medicaid in the HCR act. Seems the leader of this band of mauraders is Pennsylvania representative named Allyson Schwartz who was a former health care executive. Who knew? Democrats of all parties. We need to pay very close attention to the what is actually going on, and not allow ourselves to become so easily distracted by the media’s three ring circus.

  109. 533 Suzanne holland
    August 8, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Lawrence was terrific!!! As a Mother, my heart goes out to our lost lives. I know our President feels the same heartbreak.

    • 534 Doris
      August 8, 2011 at 9:03 pm

      You could see it in his eyes. He’s very sad right now. I’m sure he met those Seals. You could also see it on the First Lady’s face yesterday. I am praying for them.

    • August 8, 2011 at 9:13 pm

      Our local news just did a story on 2 of them who were from Northern California. They were so young. One of them was only 29 and leaves behind a 3 year old child.

  110. 536 Ladyhawke
    August 8, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    This is just unbelievable…………..

    Boehner pretends he isn’t Speaker of the House

    Perhaps my favorite GOP response to the downgrade announcement came from the Speaker of the House.

    Said House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio): “Democrats who run Washington remain unwilling to make the tough choices required to put America on solid ground.” He quoted the S&P report as saying that reforming entitlement programs is necessary, but he did not mention its discussion of the potential need for new tax revenue.

    This is almost beautiful, in a comedic sort of way.

    First, S&P blamed Boehner’s hostage strategy for the downgrade, so Boehner trying to shift the blame elsewhere is cheap and cowardly. Second, Dems were willing to make all kinds of “tough choices,” but found Boehner was too weak to persuade his own caucus to compromise.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_08/boehner_pretends_he_isnt_speak031374.php#

  111. 537 ChristiMtl
    August 8, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Well I can see that it’s not only cable news and major networks that are f****ed up.

    Here from Think Progress

    Local Media Fail: News Stations Omit S&P Analysis On GOP Refusing To Raise Revenues

    http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/08/08/291126/local-media-downgrade-spending/

    • 538 Ladyhawke
      August 8, 2011 at 9:11 pm

      Reposting….

      S&P Blames GOP For U.S. Credit Problem, Associated Press, Politico Cover It Up

      The Standard & Poors’ rating agency decision to reduce the United States’ long term debt from AAA to AA+ was explained in a press release that specifically mentioned “the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues,” should, itself, make headlines like “Standard And Poors Blames U.S. Credit Rating Reduction On Republicans.”

      But the fact is, some publications, most notable The Associated Press and Politico, are working (thus far) to cover up S&P’s finger-pointing at Republicans. Instead, they appear to be pointing their own fingers at President Obama – someone not mentioned in the Standard and Poor’s press release.

      http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=94858

      • 539 dotster
        August 8, 2011 at 9:28 pm

        And I see the headline “Obama fails to calm markets” all over the place, like there was a directive from somewhere and all in the media complied.

        • 540 hopefruit2
          August 8, 2011 at 9:50 pm

          This is what the media should be confronted with:

          Democrat Obama gets elected – DOW rises by 80%
          Republican Boehner becomes speaker – DOW sinks by 50%

  112. 541 Tally
    August 8, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Lisa – our BF LOD is on FIRE tonight!

  113. 543 ChristiMtl
    August 8, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Wow almost 500 comments, it takes a while just to go down the page lol.

  114. 544 utaustinliberal
    August 8, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Holy crap Batman …… Chipsticks we need a new thread.. 😆

  115. 545 Kasai
    August 8, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Thank you Ms Maddow even though you pissed me off many times….I applaud you for saying..

    Liberals and Democrats…NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT….What to do.. And do it FAST!!..

  116. 546 askew
    August 8, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    Some great news from the Obama admin – http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/175519-obama-to-unveil-truck-efficiency-standards-next-week

    They are releasing fuel efficiency standards for heavy trucks. This is on top of the new standards for cars that was announced last week.

  117. 547 Kasai
    August 8, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Detroiters protest Smiley and West event at City Hall

    http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/detroiters-protest-smiley-and-west-anti-obama-event-at-city-hall

    POWER TO THE POEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAY TO GO DETROIT!!! 🙂

    “We will not stand silent as Smiley and West criticize the man who brought us health care reform, one of the greatest accomplishments for the poor in our nation’s history,” says David Stephen. This event has nothing to do with the poor and everything to do with enriching Tavis Smiley. Detroit must send a strong message to Washington that although some elected officials may support this anti-Obama rally on government property, the people do not.”

    • August 8, 2011 at 9:34 pm

      AMEN!

      The president saved Detroit and these two clowns go to the city he saved to bash him.
      If these aren’t som dumb CLUCKS!

    • 550 Doris
      August 8, 2011 at 9:45 pm

      Good, run their behinds out of town on a rail.

      • 551 Kasai
        August 8, 2011 at 9:53 pm

        LOL….I couldn’t be happier Doris…the nerve to step into a city where PBO rescued….So glad that finally people stood up to these money grabbing idiots.

        I emailed Tavis while back…to explain why was he pushing prime loans directly to Poor Blacks that couldn’t afford to pay by promoting Wells Fargo Bank and himself in the process? I have yet to get a response…I wouldn’t hold my breath..lol

  118. August 8, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    So today we praise the likes of O’Donnell, Maddow, and Hartman. Who’s next, Krugman (I doubt it). We are always so easily seduced until they slap us down with some canned outrage. That’s entertainment!

    • 555 Kasai
      August 8, 2011 at 9:43 pm

      I will praise…when “Truth” is told….and will called them out when appropriate…My voice…My choice:-)

      • August 8, 2011 at 9:46 pm

        God bless. But sometimes we need consistency. Isn’t that why we’re here?

        • 557 hopefruit2
          August 8, 2011 at 9:56 pm

          drdaddy, we HAVE consistency. Our consistency is our support for fact-based journalism and our support for President Obama. These two elements are always here on this site. We support news show hosts’ reporting of the events based facts, and call them out when they don’t.

        • 558 Kasai
          August 8, 2011 at 9:58 pm

          At least for me Consistency is having an open heart…by accepting the good with the bad…and being able to recognize both. IMHO

        • 559 EDP4BHO
          August 8, 2011 at 11:14 pm

          Consistency is good, but since there is a real dearth on cable TV ( and there are quite a few easily-influenced people who watch cable tv) regarding anything helpful to PBO, I (sometimes) as well as others watch to see what messaging is going out to the voters. In other words, every little bit helps.

  119. 560 Kasai
    August 8, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    WISCONSIN WE ARE WITH YOU……….

    You stood up…You walked miles…Rain, or Shine.You showed up day in and day out… My heart goes out to you, You showed Americans What Democracy Looks Like. I’ve donated for your cause.Win or lose tomorrow, I couldn’t be more proud:-)

    My heartfelt “THANK YOU’

  120. August 8, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Wow, DOW futures are down 133 pts.

  121. August 8, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    The Senate Banking Committee is going to hold hearings on S&P.

  122. August 8, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    London’s burning, looks like the people are #takingittothestreets

    I pray no one gets hurt.

    http://twitpic.com/63523x

    • 568 Doris
      August 8, 2011 at 9:53 pm

      Oh no, I haven’t seen any pictures of this. Wow, this is so bad. I pray no one gets hurt as well.

    • August 8, 2011 at 9:58 pm

      How close is that to happening here? I bet it’s closer than most would think.

      • August 8, 2011 at 10:02 pm

        I’m with you StR.

        • August 8, 2011 at 10:17 pm

          I think the Murdoch situation sort of was the straw that broke the camels back. Britain has been pushing austerity hard, but folks realized just how fixed the game was against them with the politicians and the police deep in bed with the media.

          I worry about tomorrow if Wisconsin doesn’t flip three Senate seats. I worry in November if the Super Congress lays it all on the poor, working poor and working class again. I worry in February if the 99ers run out of UEI. Then you have Verizon with 35000 out on strike and management unwilling to negotiate – wants to starve them out straight out of the 40’s.

          • August 8, 2011 at 10:22 pm

            In the 60s it was the civil rights protests, I believe this generation is long over due.

            It feels as though the pot it simmering and it’s about ready to come to a boil.

            • August 8, 2011 at 10:39 pm

              If Wisconsin can flip three seats I think it could work as a pressure relief valve of sorts – to show folks that there is hope in the political option. Koch/AFP and the other outside groups spent upwards of $25M, outspent Dems near 6-to-1 (similar to the 7-to-1 in November). The Citizens United really, really stacked the deck against us, and they use money to gin up the R vs D team sport to hide the real battle of the super rich versus the rest of us.

  123. 574 Doris
    August 8, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    We gotta watch Ed in WI. It’s on!!!!

    • August 8, 2011 at 10:22 pm

      I don’t think Ed helps at all. He’s a hyper-partisan “Democrat” in what are red districts. At this point if Dems were not going to vote – they;re not going to because Ed says so. However Ed could turn Republican voters who were going to vote Dem this time back to voting their party line.

      The GOP incumbents have been trying to nationalize this vote, to bring Obama in as an issue because they need a “party line” vote – if they get that then they win because they’re in pretty deep red districts.

  124. 579 Karen Sr.
    August 8, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Evening, Todders.

    Got an e-mail from my Rep to let me know he supports the Balanced Budget Amendment. Wrote him right back that I thought the BBA was utter nonsense and not at all effective in controlling spending. Yes….I was polite, but I let him know that putting spending through Appropriations does nothing to control spending while limiting the federal government’s ability to issue immediate assistance to those in immediate need.

    So, doesn’t our President look oh, what’s the word…Presidential? And, what is up with Chris Matthews that he knows nothing about the President having put out an economic plan months ago? Like…forever…..I swear I could run circles around these guys…well, we all could. But then, we aren’t being paid to play a particular role on the tv machine.

    I’m calling it a night, so goodnight and thank you, thank you, thank you for TheObamaDiary. I love this place!

  125. 581 Kasai
    August 8, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Whohoooooooooo!!!! Let;s Go Wisconsinites!!!!

  126. August 8, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Think I’m calling it a night, too. Rest well, friends. Tomorrow is another day!


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