President Barack Obama is briefed on the tragedy in Afghanistan by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Adm. Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, Chief of Staff Bill Daley, and national security staff, at Camp David, August 6. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

BBC: A US helicopter carrying US and Afghan special forces has crashed in Afghanistan, killing 38 people, officials in Kabul say.

Reports say the Chinook helicopter was shot down by the Taliban.

US sources say most of the 31 Americans killed were from the Navy Seal unit which killed Osama Bin Laden, but are “unlikely” to be the same personnel.


President Obama: My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and loved ones of the Americans who were lost earlier today in Afghanistan. Their deaths are a reminder of the extraordinary sacrifices made by the men and women of our military and their families, including all who have served in Afghanistan. We will draw inspiration from their lives, and continue the work of securing our country and standing up for the values that they embodied. We also mourn the Afghans who died alongside our troops in pursuit of a more peaceful and hopeful future for their country. At this difficult hour, all Americans are united in support of our men and women in uniform who serve so that we can live in freedom and security.

109 Responses to “loss”

  1. 1 COS
    August 6, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    No rest for PBO. Bless him.

  2. August 6, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    May God bless and keep this president. May we all love and support him to the best of our abilities, and may the Seal Team members who died last night rest in eternal peace.

  3. August 6, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    It seems that our Dear President never gets a moments relief from running our Country. May God bless him and his family to have a time of peace and relaxation. Lord bless those lost in thier pursuit to destroy our enemies and their faimlies and friends.Give them the ability to work trough their grief and finally accept that their loved ones are true heroes.

  4. 5 Fred
    August 6, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    dear GOD PLEASE PLEASE give the President courage;patience;calm;strength;health;love and everything you can think of. I am personally so sick and tired of what the Teahadists are doing to our Country in order to destroy him so I pray you fight this battle for him and with him

    I send you my love and respect President.Hang in there Sir as you have a LOT of people who believe in you and support you and feel for you and pray for you

  5. August 6, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    President Obama is going to get through this. My heart goes out to him each and everyday.

    God continue to guide and protect President Obama from all adversaries. May he rise up with the people of the United States out of these dark and troubling times.

  6. 7 Deagara
    August 6, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    CNN just reported that it wasn’t the Navy Seal team raid Bin Laden home but my condelences goes out to the troops that was killed and their family. Let us pray for them and especially our president.

  7. 8 DreamChaser57
    August 6, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Tragic and disturbing. I am reminded of a song – “Aint gonna study war no more”

  8. 9 sam uk obama supporter
    August 6, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    May God grant eternal peace to those troops who died, comfort their families during this tragic time and give President Barack Obama strength, courage, good health and love during this turbulent time. Amen.

    My heart goes out to the families who have lost loved ones they are in my thoughts and prayers tonight as is President Obama who is having to endure so many adversities at the moment and my heart breaks for him but he is strong and resilliant and will get through these hard times. I guess I am like many here on TOD who get upset when things are tough for Barack – it is only natural as we love him so much but when he is being attacked and when the haters hate on him it makes me MORE determined to fight hard for this incredible leader. God bless PBO.

  9. 10 Sue in Minnesota
    August 6, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    This is so sad

    His facial expression says it all. May God be your strength and your shield Mr. President.

    And may all those we have lost know everlasting peace, and may their families be comforted by God’s promise of eternal life.

  10. August 6, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Being former military each loss such as these brave men seems personal. When you join the military you come to think of those also in uniform as your bothers and sisters.

    When everyone of those men boarded that helicopter they knew it was a possibility that they would not be coming back, but what they do they do for love of country.

    I only wish that those crazy few in Washington had put country first over the past months as those brave soldiers who gave their lives for idiots such as these to even to run and get elected to office.

  11. 12 PoliticalJunkessa
    August 6, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    😥 😥 😥

  12. 13 utaustinliberal
    August 6, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    I pray that in this time of heartbreak, tragedy, and sorrow; that the good Lord grant some comfort, peace, and warmth to the families of the lost US and Afghan Special Forces. May their families know that their deaths were not in vain and we will always be thankful for the huge sacrifice they gave in serving their countries. Amen.

    May God also grant President Obama the fortitude, resiliency, smarts, and strength to deal with this and many more issues that come his way every second of the day. May he shield and protect him and his loved ones for the rest of their days. Amen

  13. 14 desertflower
    August 6, 2011 at 4:17 pm

    This hurts my heart.

    • 16 Sue in Minnesota
      August 6, 2011 at 4:41 pm


      • 17 utaustinliberal
        August 6, 2011 at 5:34 pm

        Thank you so much for this video and song nintendowii10. The song just says everything about the ordeals and sacrifices brave military personnel from various countries go through and give up for our collective freedom. I’m bawling like a baby; but thank you for the song/video.

        • 18 HZ
          August 6, 2011 at 7:26 pm

          Yes, thanks so much nintendowii10. Collective tears are appropriate, I feel. My heart is so full for all of us. We have a big share in how we express our deep emotions for our military services. God keep them strong and please continue to give our President wisdom in thi entire situation. God comfort us and our President in his decisions.

  14. August 6, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    The 3 am call ….

    For four years, I have worked on providing the best weather forecast for the Dutch participation in this war. I didn’t want a repeat of Srebrenica, so I went for full weather forecasting support in Afghanistan.

    Apparently, the Chinook went down irrespective of the weather, which makes my grief worse, because I *couldn’t* have done anything to stop it ….

  15. 22 Titti
    August 6, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    My heart goes out to the familes of these great service men and women, thank you for your ultimate service.

    And to the Prez, continued health, wisdom and strength as you and your administration go through this trying times.

  16. 23 desertflower
    August 6, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    OT…if you have the time, this is well worth the listen. If you don’t have time…save it and come back to it. It’s THAT important

  17. August 6, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    My heart goes out to the families also. With my own grief still raw, I can honestly say I know how their loved ones feel. These vibrant men gave their lives for our country and here we have people like Cantor and Boehner playing games with the country and laughing all the way to the bank. How sickening.

  18. 26 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    August 6, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Thanks everyone for your support and responses in the last thread. My nerves are somewhat on edge. I am usually the consumate cheerleader on the board, but even I can be overcome with some insane thoughts. Thanks again. We will get through this together. PBO needs our support more than ever now. God Bless our Troops and America. KEEP HOPE ALIVE! OBAMA/Biden 2012!!

    • August 6, 2011 at 5:09 pm

      I am personally glad you came to that realization. People shouldn’t feel shame or shy to ask Chipsticks to remove any written thoughts that are not in total support of President Barack Obama.

    • August 6, 2011 at 5:10 pm

      it’s okay to freak sometimes keith, you wouldn’t be human if you didn’t. these past 3 months have been an absolute crapshoot. that’s why we have each other to sometimes slap us across the face and say in classic Cher voice: “Snap outta it!” when we’re wigging out. I’m glad you’re okay. Keep the faith. 🙂

    • 29 Sue in Minnesota
      August 6, 2011 at 5:44 pm

      I am sure every lasy one us feels overwhelmed at times. That is why supportive networks and communities are so important. The song lean on me is playing in my head…..”just call on me brother, when you need a hand, we all need somebody to lean on.”

    • 30 EDP4BHO
      August 6, 2011 at 8:47 pm

      Keith, right about now, I’m not so sure your thoughts were insane. Not that I subscribe necessarily to most theories, but there is really some bizarre s–t going on these days, and drummed up by sick, racist whackos are people, even in high places, who will do absolutely anything within their means to return this country to the “good ole days”. The hatefulness since PBO took office has only escalated. First we saw this in citizen demonstrations, on social media; now it is full-blown on cable and radio, even in the churches, and that includes churches with AA populations. So, I don’t begrudge you going off once in a while, so long as you are true to your beliefs.

  19. 31 FactPlus
    August 6, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    I know people mean well by all these support messages for PBO. However it bothers me that some seem to think that the onerous responsibilities of being POTUS are somehow very big for Mr Obama and he is being remarkable by managing to bear them all. All Presidents have to bear these kinds of responsibilities and Bush presided over even thousands more US troops being killed in the officially declared wars in iraq and afghanistan. Yes 38 soldiers being killed like this is sad and adds to the burdens of our POTUS but he signed for the job knowing that this comes with the territory. I am sympathetic but my sympathy does not go to the extent of treating a highly competent and very tough guy like Obama as if he was a poor poor man placed in a position he never anticipated. Also some seem to be falling for the meme creating and conspiracy theory frames that are surreptitiously being placed in the pragmatic blogs right now by right-wing trolls that want to link the taking out of Osama Bin Laden to this battle by planting the idea that the soldiers who killed bin Laden were among those killed which is not corroborated by any factual source. All this to try and neutralize Obama’s success in killing bin Laden. Some people never give up on their dirty fights. Its going to be a long very tiresome road to 2012. Sigh.

    • August 6, 2011 at 5:45 pm

      President Obama is a remarkable man who is doing a very, very difficult job in very, very turbulent times. Mr. Bush did preside at a time when there were alot of soldiers dying but President Obama has had to do that AND a hell of a lot more. Some may not be aware, but this presidency has been plagued with one crisis or disaster (both man made and natural) after another, since the very beginning of the administration. We can agree that this president is MORE THAN EQUAL to the tasks at hand, but we can also commiserate with him and give him our unqualified, unwavering support. This president has had a tough hand to deal with and he gets ABSOLUTELY NO recognition of all he has accomplished DESPITE the odds. No one here views President Obama as ANYTHING less than what he is: a strong, confident, highly intelligent leader who was chosen by us to lay the foundation for a better, brighter future for ourselves and our children. We love the president. We laugh when he’s happy, cry when he’s sad and get angry when he can’t. To somehow mischaracterize our feelings and the actions we engage in for this president is ridiculous and shows a lack of knowledge about this family. I am happy to converse with you about how to defeat the republicans or how we can support this president, but I don’t take kindly to belittling our genuine concern for this president.

    • 33 utaustinliberal
      August 6, 2011 at 5:47 pm

      FactPlus,we don’t think that the “onerous responsibilities of being POTUS are somehow very big for Mr. Obama.” But my goodness he is only a human being and no matter how strong, resilient and stoic one is; at the end of the day one is only human. He has been hit with a plethora of messed up stuff for the past few months and it is not wrong or shortsighted of us to wish him some measure of comfort. Yes he signed on for the job; but once again, he is only human. Yes he anticipates that when issues come to his desk, they contain huge tasks, but once again he is only human. These soldiers deaths are particularly hard because they belong to Seal Team 6. A unit where the Navy Seals who took out OBL came from. Yes “Bush presided over even thousands more US troops being killed in officially declared wars in Iraq and Afghanistan” but just because there were only 38 soldiers killed doesn’t diminish the sadness of this loss. Even though I disagreed with Bush about the wars, I still wished him comfort and said a prayer for him whenever a soldier died. To do the same for President Obama is not misguided; it is simply kind.

      • 34 EDP4BHO
        August 6, 2011 at 6:28 pm

        “Bush presided over even thousands more US troops being killed in officially declared wars in Iraq and Afghanistan”

        Let’s be clear here FactPlus, and your name should be synonymous with same. Bush CREATED the killing of “thousands more US troops being killed” in officially declared wars…….one was warranted, the other based on a BIG FAT LIE. Also, he kept the remains of soldiers killed HIDDEN from our view, and was NOT in touch with the families of these many, many casualties. So our current commander-in-chief is not diminished here in that he shows concern for the troops by the many ways he has improved their fighting capabilities, their families’ security, their own security once returning home. As for your sympathy, fine. But, no need to be condescending to anyone here who decides to show his/her support for President Obama in ways he may not receive, deservedly, by msm, radicals, pundits, etc.

    • 35 Sue in Minnesota
      August 6, 2011 at 6:02 pm

      You are misinterpreting my expression of compassion. On the contrary I think our President can handle this, but I believe it distrubs him deeply, which is one of many, many reasons why I so admire and respect him. President Obama is a man of great integrity and when he speaks of the sacrifices of our military forces, I know it is not lip service. Nor is his compassion a sign of weakness, quite the opposite IMO.
      I think it is a mistake to conflate the memes of both the right and left promoting President Obama as weak with any of the opinions rendered at this site. We respect, admire, are inspired by and love our President. No one here thinks he is weak. No one.

      Please do not include us with those who have alterior motives, or those demanding more than is humanly possible. We see through them,
      despite the frustration they inspire in us.

    • August 6, 2011 at 6:51 pm

      Quite the contrary. I think showing empathy for a man — whether he is president of the United States or Pope does not in any way mean that his intelligence is being undermined or that the people that worry about him are showing him pity.

      It understandable that people would express pain for him given the monumental problems he’s had and in multiple succession, but I doubt if anyone here views President Obama as a “poor poor man placed in a position he never anticipated.”

      In fact, for a black man to have reached this height, the President knew full well what he was getting into, but no one can be prepared for the massive difficulties when they step into this job. Nevertheless, PBO has handled each difficulty with grace nad poise, I dare say.

    • 37 HZ
      August 6, 2011 at 7:10 pm

      FactPlus, here is a fact for the record. Every President in my lifetime has and will handle their job as President and Commander-In-Chief differently. Each man shows his reactions differently. President Barack Obama is very competent President. In fact, he is brilliant. Now, I take offense in that you would put two Presidents in the same light at the same time. President Bush had the right to show his concerns and responses to the loss of men and women under his watch as his emotional and intellectual attributes allowed him to display them. Now, why not allow President Obama to show his emotional concerns and his brilliant intellenct as the current President and Commander-In-Chief as he chooses for a different time in our history. Two different President. The people on this site are here to be informed with factsal information, factual support of that informaiton, conversations wrapped with respect for those conversations, and a kind and gentle spirit as a responsible and carrying citizen. (Which we see so little of these days). We choose to lift up the President, support him with our letters, e mails, phone calls etc., of this type of support. There is not one single thing inappropriate with when and how we on this site choose to show and express our support for President Obama. We all are aware of the many calls, planning, letters, and personal contacts that he makes daily on behalf of the sad news of men and women in harms way. We are here to give support in those responses and actions that he takes. We will continue to show our concern for him, with him, and to him in the manner in which you have seen here today and days in the past. He is the President NOW. We are the people who elected him then and support him NOW and will continue to support him after 2012 when he will be re-elected as our Commander-In-Chief and President. We do not know what his days now and from this moment on will entail, but we are positive supporters. How we show our emotions filled with the facts and the intellect will continue throughout his Presidency. We are more than confident that President Obama knew going in that he would be responsible for lives serving in our military. In fact, he has shown the world just how serious of that fact, when it comes to our precious gifts of these men and women servicing. He is not caught off guard by the numbers, but a life is a very precious gift, and when you are the person serving as President, that huge and most important duty is not taken lightly by this President just as it should not be by any President. But please do not tell us how to express our grief or have compassion for the President during these times. We are here to support in a positive manner each day, our beloved President. I am sure you would want the same human decency afforded to you and your family in times like these. Please do not diminish our President’s reactions or ours with petty compasisons. We know the difference. Thank you very much. I love you back also.

  20. 40 Anonymous
    August 6, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    I think we’re seeing coordination between Paikistan ISI and the Taliban now. There just have been too many Taliban “successes” lately – with Karzai’s brother being killed, the mayor of Kabul, and now this RPG attack on these soldiers.

    All seemed to happen after the US pulled the aid money to the Pakistani military.

    • 41 Anonymous
      August 6, 2011 at 7:31 pm

      You might be on to something. It is very suspicious how the Taliban gets the high profile targets.

  21. 42 Left-Indie
    August 6, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    God forbid, but even if the seals who killed Bin Ladden are the ones who went down, this in no way diminishes that great surgical accomplishment, the President’s call, and their execution. They really can’t take that away. You’re right all presidents face horrific scenarios (LBJ), but a month that included debt-fight and S&P idiocy, it’s hard to see why the heart aches for the man. He is tough, though. He said so, and I believe him.

  22. 44 Left-Indie
    August 6, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    That is, it’s not hard to see why the heart aches for the President.

  23. 45 Kasai
    August 6, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    @PiersMorgan tweeted this message?….I have no clue what the message is about..Do you?

    If Arsene Wenger was sent to run the U.S. economy and Barack Obama became manager of Arsenal, might sort a lot of problems.

    • 46 desertflower
      August 6, 2011 at 5:54 pm

      WTH does THAT mean?? Cryptic message. Then again, do we want to give any credence to anything that guy says? Another crook and liar.

    • 47 Sue in Minnesota
      August 6, 2011 at 6:16 pm

      Not at all sure what that means, but I’ll go out on a limb and call him a butthook anyway.

      President Obama is very capable of handling the US Economy, but he needs the cooperation of those charged with making policy law, and thus far they haven’t contributed to the solutions, and as we have just witnessed, have made matters worse.

      Instead of putting out the fires, these yahoos are throwing gasoline on the fire and then blocking the exit doors. Hell is too good a place for them.

    • August 6, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      Hiya Kasai, truly – Morgan is an insufferable, amoral turd.

      Wenger is the manager of the English soccer team Morgan supports (Arsenal). His reputation is for producing teams that play beautiful football, but, ultimately, win nothing. I’m guessing Morgan (Murdoch’s former pet) thought he was being real smart with his tweet. The day Morgan actually displays real smartness is the day hell will freeze over.

      • August 6, 2011 at 6:57 pm

        Hey Chips when do we expect you back for good, because your presence is sorely missing.

      • August 6, 2011 at 7:20 pm

        Hey Chips:-) nice to see ya….Glad you were able to confirm…This idiot is indeed a Murdoch puppet….will be glad when the light of the hacking investigation shines the light on him.

        Thanks again Chip.

      • August 6, 2011 at 7:20 pm

        Chips, it’s great to have your perspective. I tend to lump the media into one giant disgraceful dung heap. Utterly disgusting and destructive.

    • 53 Fred
      August 6, 2011 at 6:41 pm

      with all due respect Kasai;Chip and my TOD family but fuck Piers Morgan.His ass is still smarting because the President as yet to dignify his fucking “show” with his presence.That smug bitch’s gotta bitter 🙄

      Morgan might be called to testify in the phone hacking scandal so if I were him I’d get off the President’s peen! (once again my sincere apologies )

      • August 6, 2011 at 7:22 pm

        BWWAAHAHAAAA! You are once again in fine form, Fred!!

      • August 6, 2011 at 7:24 pm

        Fred..no need to apologize..You share my sentiments exactly. I’ve been on him on his tail on anything he utters on Tweeterland.

        Will be watching his testimony…hoping that someone will repeat the Pie stunt:-)

    • 56 criquet
      August 6, 2011 at 7:29 pm

      This is an insult to PBO. Arsenal is an English football club.
      How and Wenger is its team manager. He is comparing a football manager to the President of the USA whom he thinks should be running a football `club. This club is not doing that well either.

  24. 57 Kasai
    August 6, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Well after reading some of the Tweets..realized it wasn’t a good message about PBO…

    I shot back this Tweet:

    @PiersMorgan: I see Murdoch Media Is out there writing the script in how American should run their country.Thank God is not by Hacking

  25. 70 P
    August 6, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Oh shocks…..and PBO looking so stressed already 😦 sigh…Lord be with those families and may all who died RIP.

    • 71 hopefruit2
      August 6, 2011 at 6:58 pm

      Yes I feel for those families and for our President. But knowing the kind of man our President is, I am also comforted. Also, keep in mind p, that the optics have to resonate with the events. He HAS to appear forlorn in the picture or else they would not release the photo. I’m not saying that he’s faking this – but we have to keep in mind that he has to reflect the mood of the country/world as well as his own. In a couple days, he will begin to look brighter as he seeks to reassure the country and uplift us all. Our President has a lot of support not just here in America but across the globe. Russia and the UK both released statements saying that they continue to have the highest confidence in the US despite the S&P downgrade, and this will not affect their business interactions with us.

      Most importantly, he has the support of his wife and girls, and they are with him. He will be okay and will once again be ready to carry on with the people’s business.

  26. August 6, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    The picture above of President Obama shows a serious and burdened man, but I’m happy to just see his face here—still in charge and still hard at work for this country. Yes, like any president (perhaps more so than others), he always has so much on his plate, and today is certainly no exception. I’m glad he was able to celebrate his birthday this past Thursday with a reasonable amount of “calm”– if just for one day.

    Today must be a real downer from him considering the fallout from the ridiculous S&P credit rating downgrade combined with this morning ‘s sad news about the downed aircraft in Afghanistan. We can all see how he cares so much about the troops, and we know he cares about the financial welfare of this country. I will continue to pray that President Obama be given the strength to successfully guide this nation through yet another difficulty day in our history.

  27. August 6, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    WHEW, what an emotional roller coaster it’s been.

    First of all, let me once again say THANK YOU to Chipsticks for creating the beautiful video about PBO’s visit to Ireland. Whenever I feel overwhelmed by the events and crises that have befallen our President and our country, I watch that video and I feel the love and appreciation showered upon him by the People of Moneygall. It’s an immense comfort and I never tire of seeing their excitement and goodwill. Bravo!!

    The helicopter crash is another terrible event. I feel great sadness for soldiers lost in battle and my heart goes out to the families and friends of those who have fought valiantly for our country and who have perished on foreign soil. May they rest in eternal peace.

    When I look at that photo of PBO above, at his desk at Camp David, I just think back to April when I had the grand privilege of sharing a warm hug with him, like old friends. He was in such a great mood and it was spontaneous and incredible for me to be able to show my deepest respect and admiration for him as our great President, as a tremendous father and husband, as someone whom I will admire for the rest of my life. I see that photo and wish I could just say, THANK YOU.

    I know things will be better and I know PBO will continue to lead with uncommon integrity and vision. We must do everything in our power to support him and to re-elect him. Republicans have made a mess of things. We cannot sit on the sidelines.

  28. 74 globalcitizenlinda
    August 6, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    may their souls rest in peace. tremendous sadness here. what a great loss for the families and the country!! so much human lives lost, such a huge resource and experience. President Obama, we draw strength from your calm and focus as you lead this country and world.

    sometimes, the punches just keep coming and there seems to be little relief in sight

  29. 75 hopefruit2
    August 6, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    Daily Beast has an article in which the author posits that PBO is too good for us. I have a serious problem with at article. Although it appears on the surface to be a positive piece, it is dripping with condescending patronization. Not only that, it compares the President unfavorably to the likes of Bill Clinton (who is hailed as a much better political strategist), Ronald Reagan (who is hailed as a much more gifted rhetoricist), and Abraham Lincoln (who is hailed as more inspiring). Oh, well, we elected an incompetent bumbling and uninspiring idiot who happens to be a good honest man. He’s too good for us…..See the problem with that premise? I won’t even link that piece of drivel here.

    • August 6, 2011 at 7:09 pm

      I thought the same thing.

      • 77 hopefruit2
        August 6, 2011 at 7:22 pm

        It’s very apparent that these pundits just cannot write a straight positive article about the President without endless qualifications, caveats, false comparisons to previous presidents, etc. That my friend is the “Black tax” No matter how good you are, you can NEVER be good enough. The author was not alive when Lincoln was President, so he’s in absolutely no position to assess how “inspiring” this current President is relative to how Lincoln was. Hint: You don’t become President post 9/11 with a name Barack Hussein Obama by being uninspiring. And as for the “strategies” of Bill Clinton, which brought us NAFTA, Repeal of Glass-Steagall, no health care reform, , DADT, DOMA, and an embarrassing blow job by a WH intern. And what has this country got to show for all the “gifted rhetoric” of Ronald Reagan? Increasing debt, a widening gap between the haves and have nots, and social/moral bankruptcy.

        • 78 Anonymous
          August 6, 2011 at 7:38 pm

          The Daily Beast is only another conglomerate of right wing and PL propagandists out to destroy President Obama. All you have to remember is that Megain McCain is employed by the Daily Beast. Enough said.

        • 79 EDP4BHO
          August 6, 2011 at 7:47 pm

          Righteous smackdown 😀

    • August 6, 2011 at 7:18 pm

      I’ve never ever understood the obsession with Bill Clinton. I’ve never been impressed with him, never thought he was cool, never thought he was a great president. I don’t see inordinate intelligence or one iota of charisma. He’s made a LOT of disgusting choices in government, in public life and in his personal life. I REALLY. DO. NOT. GET. IT.

      • August 6, 2011 at 7:35 pm

        Meta…When people praise someone that had:

        A Scandal..Passed DADT….Nafta…Cut Welfare Programs,..Reformed Medicare and passed more of conservatives agenda…..
        and have the audacity to criticize a President that’s been working so hard to undo his bad decisions.

        THERE’S NOTHING TO GET….it’s Called… R A C I S M…………….plain and simple.

        • August 6, 2011 at 7:47 pm

          I was speaking to Clinton prior to PBO but yes, I get and agree with what you’re saying about the current state of affairs.

      • 84 Anonymous
        August 6, 2011 at 7:42 pm

        Me neither Meta. Anything to diminish President Obama. Even if they have to make it up or like we see happening right now, revise history and events to cast the white presidents as perfectly successful. But we know better.

      • 85 EDP4BHO
        August 6, 2011 at 7:54 pm

        As Kasai said it. He’s W.H.I.T.E. PBO is only HALF-WHITE. This is not meant to be racial, but since we are on the subject. An old film about a black leader (don’t remember which at this time), played by James Earl Jones, had a scene where he met with a white supremacist leader, and that person insisted that the black leader was intelligent because he had white genes. That statement made me furious for years, until I figured something…..if, for instance, PBO is intelligent because he has white genes, then why is he so much smarter than most of the white politicians now and in yester years? Anyone?

        • August 6, 2011 at 8:24 pm

          Because being…smart..intelligent has nothing to do with skin color….Same reasons why Whites preached that blacks where less than humans…The most ignorant, are those who still believe that somehow GOD failed at his own creation.

          People with that kind of mentality are the bigots that are still having a problem with PBO…

    • 87 Anonymous
      August 6, 2011 at 8:18 pm

      Clinton and especially Reagan wouldn’t have survived the 24 hour news networks and the internet. I mean they hid St. Ronnie’s Alzheimer’s for crying out loud – that’s the media Reagan was dealing with.

  30. 90 globalcitizenlinda
    August 6, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    we need to take control of the messaging and do all we can to support this President as he gives some consolation to the families and friends who suffered such a loss and at the same time the President tries to calm this country’s nerves as well as those for the rest of the world

  31. August 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    There you go again @Piersmorgan….tweeting this BS

    #The audacity of hope? What else can we downgrade?

    This fool needs to hear from anyone is in tweeterland…This is the kinda people spreading the hatred on tweets…and on to CNN…
    Let him know we know what’s up…please Tweet @piersmorgan, he has over a million followers.

    • 92 Bobfr
      August 6, 2011 at 8:01 pm

      Agree kasai

      I don’t tweet, but do offer suggestions.

      How about #PiersTheHacker

      And – ‘Snooped on any grieving mothers today, Piers’

      Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

      • August 6, 2011 at 8:06 pm

        My tweet:

        @piersmorgan Anybody who cynically hacks grieving mothers has no business talking about the Audacity of Hope. #MEDIAFAIL #GOPFAIL

      • 94 hopefruit2
        August 6, 2011 at 8:15 pm

        I tweeted him as you suggested, Bobfr.

        • 95 utaustinliberal
          August 6, 2011 at 8:39 pm

          I tweeted him as well. Asking him if it was wise to throw slurs at President Obama when he (Piers) is accused of hacking? I asked him to look in the mirror before spewing crap.

          • August 6, 2011 at 8:49 pm

            I think he blocks any negative comments….I can’t find to any tweets from us on his page.
            I noticed that most journalist that have a TV show, may say something about their show or ask for an opinion…I don’t understand why is Piers allowed to be so blunt about PBO…and get it away with it??

      • August 6, 2011 at 8:31 pm

        Thanks Bob…here’s what I just tweeted…

        ‘Snooped on any grieving mothers today” Shouldn’t u be hearing from Parliament soon?That alone shld give u the audacity 2 hope

  32. 98 globalcitizenlinda
    August 6, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    just wondering if the high number of Navy Seals killed in this crash indcates that they were going after another big fish in the taliban or al-queda ranks

    • August 6, 2011 at 8:07 pm

      That could be the case. The only thing I’ve read so far is that they were going in to rescue those caught in an ambush.

  33. 100 Me4obama
    August 6, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Hey TODers I just opened a Twitter account it’s @me4obama please let me know where to find all TODer family accounts so i follow you all good people. The only person am following now,is my man PBO. I don’t think am going to last a week on Twitter before they kick me off. Off I go to hunt and torture the Media fools and tell them that I have arrived and no one is going to mess with My President.

    • 101 hopefruit2
      August 6, 2011 at 8:16 pm

      Hi me4, there was a list published somewhere here on TOD I’ll try to track it down if someone doesn’t beat me to it. I am aspirational12.

      • 102 utaustinliberal
        August 6, 2011 at 9:15 pm

        Hey me4obama welcome to the world of twitter. It’s very addictive but sooooo useful for politics, calling out media, and GOP lies and getting breaking news in a jiffy. My twitter handle is utaustinliberal. When you follow me, you can look at my followers and follow whomever you want to. Many TOD’ers follow me and vice versa. I also follow back democrats and left leaning people when they follow me first. Also when you go to my profile page, you’ll see a heading called “Lists” @marabout40 and @Tienle47 have a list of TOD’ers and you can follow people from the list. Hope this helps. 😀

    • August 6, 2011 at 8:25 pm

      GREAT!! I will follow you. I’m @metaquest. In addition to all the great tweeters here, to start off, I recommend following:

      @pfeiffer44 (he is in the President’s press office and releases all the latest info on events and annoucements)

      I think there’s a TODville list of tweeter floating around here somewhere.

    • August 6, 2011 at 8:35 pm

      Hey Me4….

      Here’s my tweeter name: @Kahsai…headed to follow you:-)

      Watch out….Here comes Me4obama… and millions on Tweeter fighting the enemy left and right:-)

  34. August 6, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    A few days ago I linked to a New Yorker piece called Getting bin Laden – What happened that night in Abbottabad:


    And then a couple nights ago the author was on Charlie Rose and talked about how he got the story and shared more details of the event:


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