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  1. 1 Bill
    July 31, 2011 at 6:38 am

    Watching much of the debate it seems to me both Reid and McConnell enjoy playing the game more than achieving a particular solution. Thank goodness for the President.

    • 2 M
      July 31, 2011 at 6:59 am

      Yes Bill, thank goodness for the President!

    • 3 Anna Luc
      July 31, 2011 at 7:18 am

      Just a little anxiety projection perhaps. Reid appears tired of republican stonewalling to me and has moved past pure gamesmanship.

    • July 31, 2011 at 9:12 am

      I doubt Reid is playing a game. McConnell on the other hand, you will remember is after one thing, making PBO a one-termer. We also saw that that he had no intention of negotiating in good faith. He outright refused to negotiate with Reid as soon as the Boehner bill died in the Senate.

      These two men are operating on two different planes — Reid, in the interest of the people. McConell wants to defeat President Obama at all costs.

      In the end, I have faith that the President will honor the best deal for the American people.

  2. 5 Chi
    July 31, 2011 at 7:16 am

    It’s that old political playbook again Bill…President Obama has turned it on it’s head…

    And now it’s becoming terribly obvious for what it is… shallow, silly, worthless…

    And as we watch the old-timers keep at that worn out handbook, we begin to understand how President Obama presents a stark contrast and is indeed changing our politics for the better just as he promised…

    • 6 Sue in Minnesota
      July 31, 2011 at 10:36 am

      Chi ,I have always maintained that what we witness in President Obama IS change…….people refuse to see that because they have predetermined expectations of what change looks like, which I believe does not account for the process but only focuses on a result, also an outcome they have predefined. That is a guaranteed receipe for disappointment and discontent. What I see in President Obama is change, I think in part it is why the political pundits and MSM have such difficulty and are so regularily proven wrong in their observations opinions and reporting on our President at work. They continue to insist that he do things by someone elses playbook. He is constantly being measured against yesterdays standards and rigid expectations. News Flash to the media, President Obama is not playing, this is not a game, nor should it be treated as such. He is also, above all else in command of who he is, he will never be anybodies sock puppet….guaranteed. I am proud of and amazed by our President. He is change, and in my opinion everyday he is in office he delivers change we can believe in. His integrity reassures me that he will do everything within his powers to deliver on the promises he has made.

      When will the rest wake up, when will they step out of their old molds, when will they demonstrate the courage that is required to be change?

      One thing that I think is a bit unsettling is how to me, the Tea Party Causus is being allowed to be the excuse and cover for the incalcitrant and obstructionism of the Republican Party as a whole. As the meme continues ,it wraps a blanket of protection around the party that wants to destroy this President. No regard for anything but power and control, Americans at great risk of becoming collateral damage as they persue their mission. They have made the rich and the powerful their masters, 2% of the constituents they were elected to serve. That is not the greater good. IMO, they are derelict of their sworn duties,, and have consistently demonstrated that they are not honest brokers for America as a whole. I do not want the Republican party members to be given a pass simply because the Tea Party is being promoted as their new excuse, and is quickly becoming a shield for their uncompromising and self serving ideology. No pass from me, I hope others refuse to give them a pass as well.

  3. 8 Ladyhawke
    July 31, 2011 at 7:22 am

    A MUST SEE VIDEO OF DEMOCRATIC MINORITY LEADER NANCY PELOSI MAKING MINCEMEAT OUT OF THE “SPEAKER IN NAME ONLY’ JOHN BOEHNER. HIS BILL WAS DEAD ON ARRIVAL IN THE SENATE. IT WAS TABLED IN RECORD TIME.

    Nancy Pelosi Warns That Young Jedi Boehner Has Gone To The Dark Side

    During a fiery speech on the House floor Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi warned that instead of working with Democrats on bi-partisan deficit deal, Speaker Boehner went over to the dark side and caved to the tea party

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/pelosi-boehner-dark-side

  4. 9 Anna Luc
    July 31, 2011 at 7:23 am

    While I would love to think actual progress is being made, consider the source. AP? What I’ve seen all week is the republican party desperately trying to shift the blame for failed negotiations from themselves to the President. You can’t do that until you are back in negotiations and “progress” is being made, then “oh nos, the bad prez refused to compromise!” Remember, nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to.

    • 10 Bill
      July 31, 2011 at 7:29 am

      Never forget that McConnell’s goal is to defeat the President, nothing else.

      • July 31, 2011 at 8:09 am

        Bingo!! And good morning all.

        I have been thinking about this. They way I have witnessed this, Boehner’s bill should have been dead on arrival without a whole lot of fuss. Prior to the vote in the house, there was no talk about filibuster. As soon as the bill got to the Senate, McConnell pulled a fast one, surprising Reid and others when he said he was not going to negotiate with them.

        McConnell must have been planning to do this the whole time, and it appears Reid and other senators were not ready for it. Am I making any sense?

        I have tried to remember all the reporting and discussions we had here. I thought it was clear that they were going to start negotiating, but McConnell abruptly said he was not going to negotiate. That’s when Conrad came on Larry and started talking about it. Both he and Larry were livid.

        Then you will notice that immediately after they left the White House on Saturday evening, McConnell rushed to tell every body that they were close to a deal, hinting that it would be closer to theirs than what Reid had proposed.

        Reid came out and disputed McConnell.

        Anyway, the point I am trying to make is that McConnell is not doing any of this in good faith. For that matter, the whole Republican party right now.

        Good Sunday everyone. Hope your today is better than yesterday and will be even brighter tomorrow.

        • 12 Sue in Minnesota
          July 31, 2011 at 10:52 am

          Africa you are IMO spot on, The Republicans have never intended to negotiate. I said last night the entire timeline, notes from every meeting and press statements should be made available to the public. The tick-tock as the President described it. I believe it would confirm just as we suspect, Republicans have manufactured this crisis, and have lied from beginning to end about their intentions and their actions. As I said above the The Tea Party is being used as cover for their deriliction of duty. That excuse does not fly with me.

          Africa I hope your day is lovely as well. Yes.We.Can.

  5. 13 halo.
    July 31, 2011 at 7:43 am

    “The tentative outlines of the accord include spending cuts of $1 trillion and creation of a special committee to recommend additional savings of up to $1.8 trillion. The new panel would have to act before the Thanksgiving congressional recess in late November or government programs including Defense and Medicare would face automatic, across-the-board cuts, the person said.
    A White House official familiar with the talks cautioned after reports of the framework surfaced last night that no final agreement has been reached among involved in negotiations.”

    Mr. President, please don’t put Medicare cuts on the table!! It is the lifeblood of our social safety net.

    • 14 prettyfoot58
      July 31, 2011 at 10:02 am

      Temember,,,,,Nothing is agreed to…until everything is agreed to,,,,

      i feel as Tally does….that there will be a clean bill to raise the debt ceiling…

      • 15 57andFemale
        July 31, 2011 at 10:31 am

        McConnell just came out: he’s smiling. He says this is what his people voted for in 2010.

        • 16 57andFemale
          July 31, 2011 at 10:35 am

          This is what my husband told me — what McConnell actually said that this is a deal he can support — not as bad as my husband made it sound. Forgive me.

        • 17 Sue in Minnesota
          July 31, 2011 at 3:05 pm

          I didn’t realize snakes smiled.

  6. 18 utaustinliberal
    July 31, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Hmmm….. interesting video. It’s now a wait and see mode today for whatever news trickles out. David Plouffe is going to be on This Week with Christiane Amanpour.

    • July 31, 2011 at 8:14 am

      Good morning, UT. Whew. I am hoping that today brings some news, and good news, too. I guess we may glean a little from Plouffe, but I know he too, will wait to have the president tell us what the deal really is.

  7. 20 aamom
    July 31, 2011 at 8:55 am

    I am going to dismiss reports from AP, ABC, TPM until I hear the words out of the President’s mouth. Already this morning ABCNEWS is walking back whatever they said last night http://abcn.ws/n1JIfU

    • July 31, 2011 at 9:07 am

      My sentiments, exactly. I won’t worry one hair on my head. I will wait to hear from the president about what’s really in the deal, if there is a deal.

      And who are these anonymous aides quoted in these stories? Give me a Plouffe or Pfeiffer on record and I will give a little credence to the story. Other than that, I will wait.

  8. 22 mb32
    July 31, 2011 at 8:56 am

    People are freaking out on my Twitter timeline about this “deal” being reported by ABC and Reuters. I honestly can’t take the hand wringing today. I’m going to church and will pray for the best but I’m staying off Twitter, the internet and cable news today…as my grandpa used to say “I need some peace in the valley.” This debate has worn me out. Hope you all have a good day!

  9. 23 utaustinliberal
    July 31, 2011 at 9:01 am

    Okay, so the administration is sending out their brilliant forces into the GOP run media to continue the truth telling. WH Senior Advisor David Plouffe will be on Meet The Press with David Gregory and This Week with Christiane Amanpour. WH Economic Director Gene Sperling and Sen. Dick Durbin will be on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace. Should be interesting and informative.

  10. 24 Left-Indie
    July 31, 2011 at 9:16 am

    I’m really frustrated by these a-holes. But I’m more frustrated by the Dems reaction to them. This helps them set the agenda everytime. Before 2010 they put the agenda on jobs…Obams where’re the jobs?” They would holler. Then the president and the Dems would respond to that and talk about the jobs. Good. Now that they’re in, with NO JOB BILL, they’re talking about debt, and the Dems and the President are talking about debt. Instead of turning every conversation to, “Yes, the debt…but the economy needs jobs NOW…and by the way, GOP, where are the jobs bill.” This really should be the talking point everytime debt is discussed. In the meantime, the Rethugs are doing what they can to undermine democratic voter turnout in the states, and jerking national attention here and yonder anytime they want to. It’s like they’re leading us by the nose. Frustrating. I’m I being irrational? I hope so.

    • 25 ChristiMtl
      July 31, 2011 at 9:30 am

      2 factors, the President talks about the need to invest in Infrastructure and green energy and so and so to create jobs every chance he gets.

      The media doesn’t report it. Corporate owned media covers for and promote these criminals and they control the narrative.

      When the President started talking about the deficit, he knew that as long as the Tealibans were controlling the house, that would be their talking points. We’re broke, no jobs.

      He had no choice but to take away their talking point.

      I know they created this crisis, everybody knows that but they control the purse, what a mess.

      What will be their excuse after for no job bill?

      • 26 Sue in Minnesota
        July 31, 2011 at 11:32 am

        If the MSM reported half of what the President does everyday he is in office Americans would be AMAZED. Watching the President up close and routinely, following Whitehouse.gov it became very clear to me that the media was creating their own narratives. IMO it is a completely alternate reality with very little basis in, or reflection of truth.

        • 27 Left-Indie
          July 31, 2011 at 2:29 pm

          I understand the MSN is useless, except a few. My point is the Dems having their OWN messaging and not just responding to the Rethugs, often in a defensive way. There was a time when Nancy and company would bring up, “where are the jobs, Bonehead?” but it is never consistent or repeated by the others. Even now, while talking about this debt issue, the Dems should be ending their sentences…and where are the jobs, Bonehead, where’re the jobs, where are the jobs. Not a one bill out of folks who mad such hay out of that line in 2010. Why? We let them get away with it.

          • 28 Sue in Minnesota
            July 31, 2011 at 3:07 pm

            I’ve been calliong Boehner’s office every Monday since he was sworn in as speaker….asking in effect where are the jobs you promised, and when can we expect the President to sign the bill. I hope that you have been doing likewise.

            • 29 Sue in Minnesota
              July 31, 2011 at 3:11 pm

              calling….not calliong which I come to find out is a Tweeter from Korea

              • 30 Left-Indie
                July 31, 2011 at 8:19 pm

                I have been Sue and thank you for doing what you do. I just want the Dems with the bigger mics should voice THEIR AGENDA in a coordinated way. Both my senators and Rep are Dems. I like their policy positions, but not how they never seem to stay on their OWN message. To hell with what the t-thugs want to talk about. For a precious brief moment we had them running scared with the Ryan crap, until this debt thing or whatever else THEY want to talk about next.

  11. 31 Tulips
    July 31, 2011 at 9:39 am

    i don’t believe what is being reported , i will wait to hear. I will support the president. Yet is making me angry!

  12. 34 Betty's Girl
    July 31, 2011 at 10:45 am

    The President and the Administration will drive you nuts because they hold their cards so close. This morning it’s all McConnell says this and McConnell says that. It is frustrating so I turn off the tv and will wait to see what happens. It all a mess. The Dems in House want the President to do their job and take the pressure off them. The Repub thugs are still trying to back him in corner and sabotage him.

    I remember Rep Chaka Fattah on one of the MSNBC shows this past week says the last thing McConnell wants is to negotiate with Speaker Reid. He should want to negotiate with the President. So, you could say they backed McConnell back into negotiation.

  13. 35 Betty's Girl
    July 31, 2011 at 10:52 am

    I don’t understand how anyone can trust the reporters especially those on network cable . They all seem like a bunch of ill-informed bumbling idiots.

    • 36 Sue in Minnesota
      July 31, 2011 at 11:08 am

      The MSM lies…..speculates at best. They are attempting to establish a narrative…look beyond it.

      I am not going to light my hair on fire today….I’m tired of that exercise and the smell of burning hair. Republicans suck, nothing that happens today will change that. Working with the Republicans is like getting blood from a turnip….please don’t lose sight of the enormous effort Democrats have to put forward to get an inch.

      One thing we can do is mount pressure on the House Republicans to address the job situation. We should go full out, twitter, e-mail, letters
      and beyond (NAN holding a rally 27August….I suspect this issue will be front and center) The republicans have squandered 7 months of opportunity to address in meaningful ways the need for job creation. I say we crawl up their backsides until they do what is expected of them.

    • 38 nospin
      July 31, 2011 at 11:16 am

      “Reporters especially those on network cable all SEEM like a bunch of ill-informed bumbling idiots.”

      Reporters especially those on network cable ARE a bunch of ill-informed bumbling idiots. There . . . Fixed.

  14. 39 Betty's Girl
    July 31, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Plouffe just explained the FRAMEWORK of a the plan in 3 seconds so everyone should settle down about the President selling Dem out.

    • 40 Sue in Minnesota
      July 31, 2011 at 11:12 am

      I may be disappointed in outcomes, but I never feel our President would sell us out. I truly believe he gets the very best he can…..thank God for brilliance because he is the main force standing between Americans and the destructive intentions of the Republicans.

    • 41 57andFemale
      July 31, 2011 at 11:23 am

      Which show was he on? I’ve been flipping around and I missed him.

  15. 42 Kasai
    July 31, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Good Sunday Morning……

    Don’t listen to the Media….Put your FAITH IN OUR CREATOR…..because I can guarantee you, the He always listens…

    May the guidance of the Lord reaches those..that have closed their souls, and inspires them to do the right thing for the people of this great land. May God Bless our President!!

    Whatever happens… put in the hand of the Master Up Stairs.

    Peace and Blessings!

  16. 43 LunarSea
    July 31, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    It’s a beautiful day here, so I’m heading to the beach. Just want to suggest that you all remember that it is all speculation designed to confuse, infiltrate, divide and conquer. That is their grand plan and listening to the media is listening to republican talking points. They say things we don’t like to get us riled up and pitted against each other. Do not let them win. Every time you hear something to make your blood boil think:

    SWIFT BOATING!

    If we have learned nothing else it is that the media lies along with their masters.

    Enjoy your day and those in your life that really matter.

  17. 44 @Mel_
    July 31, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Chips, maybe someone could help think this through…

    The brand spanking new Super-Duper Debt Committee will reform the tax code in a way that lowers rates for everyone but eliminate loopholes and such to net new revenues. The entire taxcode could change, therefore making irrelevant arguing over extending Bush Tax Cuts. Right?

    So will further lowering/increasing taxes be in the 2012 campaign conversation? I mean, the new rates would go into place start 1/1/2013…if I read the WhiteHouse readout correctly… Repub Candidates will have NOTHING to run on…. lol

    I believe (and hope) our Leaders will go for BIG in the brand spanking new Super-Duper Debt Committee. This is the best chance to right the ship…all within just 4 short years.

    Imagine PBO with an additional 4…. I’m in.

    #HCR #CFPB #PellGrants #2xCarMPGs #etcetc


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