Steve Benen: …. Speaker Boehner’s budget proposal doesn’t have the votes. In the hopes of twisting a few arms, the House proceeded to take up a few measures related to — I kid you not — naming post offices. (Yes, five days before an economic catastrophe of Republicans’ making, they’re reduced to naming post offices on the House floor.)

Nearly two hours later, GOP leaders have said they still expect to hold a vote “tonight,” though that’s a time frame that could conceivably go into the morning. Democratic leaders also anticipate a vote this evening, and have told members not to leave Capitol Hill.

By most accounts, Boehner is a vote or two shy of what he needs to pass a bill … which everyone knows will then be promptly killed by the Senate. The Speaker’s argument to his caucus is that passage of his budget plan will give him greater leverage in the final round of talks, after this bill dies, but as it turns out, that’s not much of a rallying cry for a right-wing caucus that doesn’t like Boehner’s bill much anyway.

At this point, it’s also worth noting that Boehner’s hold on the Speaker’s gavel is weakening, and failure tonight, if there’s a vote, would be a stunning rebuke of his leadership by dozens of members of his own caucus.

Harry Reid’s communications director, meanwhile, explained about an hour ago, “The Senate stands ready to defeat the Boehner plan whenever House Republicans can get their act together.”

…. Update: At about 8:10 p.m., Eric Cantor’s spokesperson said the vote will occur “before tomorrow.”

More here



Joe Klein (Time): Let us not put too fine a point on it: Thursday’s House vote on Speaker John Boehner’s debt ceiling proposal is a joke. If it passes the House, Harry Reid has said it is dead on arrival in the Senate. If it somehow passes the Senate, which it won’t, President Obama will veto it. It is, therefore, a symbolic act that is wasting precious time. It follows last week’s Republican theatrics, the passage of the Cut and Demolish Act (or whatever they called it), which also was a waste of time. These are the actions of a party that has completely lost track of reality – and of a leader, John Boehner, who has lost the support of his party.

…. This has been an exhausting process – one that might have resulted in an exhilarating triumph, if the Republican party were not led by nihilists like Rush Limbaugh and Grover Norquist. But one senses that the President is feeling the exhaustion and frustration. He is preparing himself for the worst of all possible scenarios: the uncertainty caused by the Republican anarchy has already damaged the economy, businesses are waiting to see what the interest rates will be and therefore delaying plans to expand. That uncertainty, added to the higher oil prices caused by Arab Spring, the European Debt crisis and the Japanese earthquake could well bring us a double-dip recession.

… And so, here we are. Our nation’s economy and international reputation as the world’s presiding grownup has already been badly damaged. It is a self-inflicted wound of monumental stupidity. I am usually willing to acknowledge that Democrats can be as silly, and hidebound, as Republicans–but not this time. There is zero equivalence here. The vast majority of Democrats have been more than reasonable….

The Republicans have been willing to concede nothing. Their stand means higher interest rates, fewer jobs created and more destroyed, a general weakening of this country’s standing in the world. Osama bin Laden, if he were still alive, could not have come up with a more clever strategy for strangling our nation.

Full article here

President Obama talks with staff during a Domestic Policy Council meeting in the Oval Office, July 28 (Photo by Pete Souza)


Andrew Leonard (Salon): As I write these words, the U.S. House of Representatives is debating the appropriate name for a post office in Pasadena, Calif. Meanwhile, C-SPAN is running a crawl at the bottom of the screen that reads “Final Vote on Speaker Boehner’s Plan to Raise Debt Ceiling Postponed.”

And so, ludicrously, is history made. The Republican Party is on the cusp of one of the greatest self-inflicted disasters since a crack cadre of two-bit bumblers broke into the Watergate Hotel. Right now, John Boehner cannot count on enough Republican votes to pass his own debt ceiling bill….

…It is still, at this point, nearly inconceivable that Boehner’s bill could go down in flames. Because if it does, intransigent House conservatives will have handed President Obama one of the biggest victories of his term.

Here’s why: The Boehner bill is already a conservative bill that won’t pass the Senate. But if House Republicans can’t pass it on their own, they will have conclusively demonstrated that it will be impossible for them to come to agreement on any kind of compromise deal acceptable to both parties. They will have effectively declared themselves incapable of governing …. exposed as both irresponsible and incompetent.

… Washington will be a different town, and Boehner will be a neutered political leader. And those of us who lived through this period will wonder how in the world this man managed to hold the U.S. government hostage for so long, when he couldn’t even control his own party.

Full article here


373 Responses to “farce”

  1. 1 Marlz
    July 28, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    Oh Boy!!!!!!!!

  2. 2 Ladyhawke
    July 28, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Reposting from previous thread because this is just remarkable. Majority Leader Eric Cantor is losing it. As Steve Benen puts it, Cantor is essentially saying do as we say or we will kill the hostage and blame you for it. The guy is nuts.

    The pressure is starting to get to Eric Cantor

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) declared Thursday that Senate Democrats would be responsible for a national default if they defeat a House plan to raise the debt limit.

    Cantor starkly laid out the options: Either the Senate passes the House debt-limit legislation or the nation will likely default.

    “There are two choices left,” Cantor said. “When we send this bill over, this compromise piece of legislation, [Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid [D-Nev.] can take that up, pass it, send it to the White House. We can avoid the potential consequences of going past Aug. 2 and get on with the business of this country, or it will be on Harry Reid to bear the consequences of economic damage, and I don’t want to see that.”


    • 3 57andFemale
      July 28, 2011 at 6:29 pm

      Show me the ‘compromise’, Eric. That you raise the debt ceiling at all because that’s your job?

      Un-freakin believable.

    • 4 COS
      July 28, 2011 at 6:48 pm

      Wow, rhis sound just like Jake Tapper this morning pushing this so-called “compromise” talking point.

      • 5 Ladyhawke
        July 28, 2011 at 6:55 pm

        Exactly, that where he got the talking point. Both Cantor and Boehner has said that THEY HAVE COMPROMISED. It really is astonishing that someone can call themselves a journalist and ask the question that Jake Tapper asked Jay Carney today/ It might as well have been Boehner sitting in Tappers chair. Same thing.

        • 6 57andFemale
          July 28, 2011 at 7:14 pm

          Has one single reporter asked them what they compromised on? Just one? There is NOTHING they can point to that is a compromise. Ask the freakin’ question already!

          Really — the press is impossible.

    • 7 Sue in Minnesota
      July 28, 2011 at 7:31 pm

      Time to tweet bomb their asses, there is no way America will hold the Democrats or the President responsible for this act of economic terrorism. I am sending e-mails now, McConnell, Cantor and Boehner…..you screwed the pooch, you infantile jerks.

      • 8 Ladyhawke
        July 28, 2011 at 8:13 pm

        Well we know that at least two senators openly expressed concerns about the wisdom of conflating the raising of the debt ceiling (which has been pretty routine until PBO) with deficit reduction. I think it would be safe to say that there is a sizable number of establishment Republicans who are thinking the same thing. The Republican Party is imploding right before our eyes and they own this manufactured crisis. President Obama asked for a clean debt ceiling bill months ago.

        GOP Senators Get Cold Feet Over Standoff: ‘Maybe The Debt Ceiling Was The Wrong Place To Pick A Fight’


  3. 9 Ladyhawke
    July 28, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Boehner Debt Ceiling Plan Drops A 26-Year-Old Exemption That Protects The Poor From Budget Cuts

    “In an exercise in political cynicism,” CBPP notes that both bills include an exemption for payments to Medicare providers that was not part of previous laws. This allows Republicans to avoid another hit from the senior community “even as they subject those living below the poverty line to the risk of automatic cuts that would push them even deeper into poverty.” Earlier this week, CBPP put out an analysis showing that Boehner’s debt ceiling plan “could well produce the greatest increase in poverty and hardship produced by any law in modern U.S. history.”

    The Republican move to cut a long-standing bipartisan protection for the poor really brings into question exactly which Americans Republicans say they’re fighting for. Religious leaders should take note. If asked “What Would Jesus Cut,” it seems Republicans are determined to provide the wrong answer.


  4. July 28, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    hahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhaahhahahhahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahhahahhahhahahahhahahahahahhahahaha!!!!! 😆 😆

  5. 11 Doris
    July 28, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer Orange, ah I mean guy. Nothing against Oranges. 😀

  6. 12 utaustinliberal
    July 28, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    This from a CNN reporter Lisa Dejardins. GOP has 240 caucus members. They need 216 votes to pass Boehner’s debt ceiling plan

    DEBT VOTE score sheet: Majority vote in House is 216. GOP has 240 members. They can afford 24 GOP ‘no’ votes, but not anymore.

    Also according to the hill’s updated list about 25 GOP members are leaning against voting for Boehner’s plan. This is why Boehner has postponed the debt ceiling vote. Updated whip list: 25 House Republicans against/leaning no on Boehner plan http://ow.ly/5PVui

  7. 13 Doris
    July 28, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    What a pitiful Republican lead House. Their naming post offices in the meantime. Lawd have mercy.

  8. 14 isonprize
    July 28, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Ok ya’ll, WEE don’t advocate violence, but this cartoon is hilarious…


  9. 19 collegekay
    July 28, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    nobody wants this shitty bill. give it up boehner

  10. 20 nintendowii10
    July 28, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    UP YOURS BONEHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UP YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. 21 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 get your ass in line Boner and bow down To My President, he will help you out.

  12. 23 Doris
    July 28, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Rev. Al looks mighty handsome. I guess I’m old school, but he can hook up those suits and ties. 😀

    • 24 utaustinliberal
      July 28, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      His mind and his proverbs are a thing of beauty. Every evening when I watch him, I come out gaining more info, happier than before and my respect and admiration keeps shooting high. I’m off to tweet him our collective thanks for the MAGNIFICENT job he does night after night.

      • 25 Doris
        July 28, 2011 at 6:24 pm

        Yes, me too. Rev. Al wrote the book as old folks used to say. He’s so refreshing. Let him know we love him and are supporting him UT. thanks.

  13. 26 Fred
    July 28, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    I hope the President suspends (his own too so that nofuckingbody yaps about it 🙄 ) the checks of every single member of Congress until this shit is resolved.It might make Joe Walsh’s head explode 😆

    • 27 hopefruit2
      July 28, 2011 at 6:27 pm

      Oh Dear….that would be a disaster for these GOP congressmen – all of a sudden they won’t be able to pay the hush money they normally give to all those mistresses….

  14. 28 HZ
    July 28, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Doris, Rev. Al is looking nice again tonight. Also, Al is sharp on the breaking it down to the people. I think that Rev. Al is greating us to preparations for his interview for Friday.

    • 29 HZ
      July 28, 2011 at 6:23 pm

      meant to say getting us..

      • 30 Doris
        July 28, 2011 at 6:26 pm

        Yes, I shared that with my Mom today, she’s 78 and is of course concerned about getting her SS next month. She was pleased to hear Rev. Al will be interviewing the President and will be watching. She loves Rev. Al.

  15. 32 HZ
    July 28, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    That is what you get, Johnny when you lie on the President. We put you in ‘time out for the day.’ Now, do you understandm Johnny?

  16. 33 utaustinliberal
    July 28, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Hey Guys this is HILARIOUS!!!!!! just got this from twitter via CNN reporter Lisa Desjardins: DEBT – INTENSE: Jeff Duncan, R-SC, outside Boehner office, said he’s going to House chapel to “pray about the vote” + “pray for the country”

    Basically Sen Jeff Duncan (R) after hearing that Boehner doesn’t have enough votes for his “Budget Control Act” plan is going to the House chapel to pray. Hahahahah. He’s starting to realize that the teabagger caucus is dangerous. Wall Street and big business who funded the tea party must be peeing their pants right now. 😆 😆

    • July 28, 2011 at 6:30 pm

      you sleep with dogs…………. tehehehehehehhehehehehehhe :mrgreen:

    • 35 Doris
      July 28, 2011 at 6:31 pm

      Too sad. Mess with the President will ya. What goes around comes around.

    • 37 Ladyhawke
      July 28, 2011 at 6:32 pm

      It looks like things are coming undone at the capital. This is really amazing……

      Clergey Members Arrested At Capitol Protesting Budget Cuts

      About a dozen religious leaders were arrested in the Capitol rotunda today after they refused to end their public prayers calling for “an equitable resolution to the debt ceiling debate,” according to the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), which organized the protest. The leaders noted that default would be catastrophic, but current plans to raise the debt limit would still include “severe spending cuts to the programs and services that support the poorest and most vulnerable people living in the U.S. and around the world.” A photo of the leaders captured by the New York Times:


      • 38 Anonymous
        July 28, 2011 at 11:41 pm

        I’m glad to see that not all religious communities have fallen for the Republican spin. I hope that more genuine believers will speak up in defense of the poor and the sick as these people are doing. Religion is nothing without compassion.
        I don’t belong to a church but I do have my beliefs and often feel sad that the extreme right wing are giving Christianity a bad name and misrepresenting the teachings of Christ. It’s nice to know that some religious leaders are willing to stand up for social justice.

      • 39 theo67
        July 29, 2011 at 2:04 am

        Some Catholic leaders wrote to Congress yesterday asking for a balanced approach, too.

    • 40 Me4obama
      July 28, 2011 at 6:32 pm

      😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 :lol::lol: 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 he is praying that PBO gives him a call.

      • 41 HZ
        July 28, 2011 at 6:42 pm

        If these clergey members had been doing the right things in their pulpits rather than bashing President Obama, they would not even have to be in the Capitol Building today. You do not mock God says scripture which is what they are to be teaching. Right? Shame on them.

        • 42 Anna Luc
          July 28, 2011 at 7:24 pm

          These clergy members are Presbyterian, not Evangelicals. They do not represent the Rick Warren school of christianity, but come from a christian social justice tradition. The ministers that were arrested probably have been doing the right thing in their pulpits for decades.

    • 44 majii
      July 28, 2011 at 6:49 pm

      These people play with God, but God doesn’t play with them. I’ve been praying, asking God to handle the GOP members in Congress, and I believe he will.

  17. 47 ChristiMtl
    July 28, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    I freaking love Rev. Al!!! I send him a tweet every day.


  18. July 28, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Jake Tapper
    Reid’s spox > RT @AJentleson: The Senate stands ready to defeat the Boehner plan whenever House Republicans can get their act together.
    43 minutes ago via TweetDeck

    • July 28, 2011 at 6:42 pm

      thanks for scalping Jake Suzanne. I’ve always wanted to and I’m sure my sexy second husband–second only to PBO—-Jay Carney also appreciates it. 🙂
      ps— Reid is very spicy!! Who knew his zingers were so sharp 😉

    • July 28, 2011 at 6:44 pm

  19. 51 nintendowii10
    July 28, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Fuck this tea party idiot on Al Sharpton, he has NO CLUE and is a Koch Bros puppet!!!!

  20. July 28, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    teaparty guy said the teapoopers kicked Bush outta office!!!!!! Rev. Al was AWESOME!!!! he starred up into the sky and said: “ah, I thougt Bush left office bc he couldn’t run again and it was McCain who ran against PBO.” ehhehehehehhehhedhehehheheheh 🙂 🙂

    • 53 Doris
      July 28, 2011 at 6:41 pm

      He’s quick. Aged like fine wine.

    • 54 nintendowii10
      July 28, 2011 at 6:42 pm

      The tea party didn’t even exist when Bush was in office, they only came prominent after Obama became President.

      I love how Al asked him “Are you gonna send 63 Republicans home and primary them?” Tea party idiot had NO ANSWER!!!

      • 55 HZ
        July 28, 2011 at 6:47 pm

        Rev. Al is hitting it out of the park tonight. Do not come on Rev. Al with talking points. And please, please know your facts. They kicked Bush out of office. The teabaggers are foolish and messing with peoples life and the country’s life.

    • July 28, 2011 at 6:45 pm

      head teapooper: Rich ppl create jobs. I’ve never worked for a poor man or a poor woman
      Rev: well, the rich do create jobs. they just don’t create them here


    • 57 Sue in Minnesota
      July 28, 2011 at 6:47 pm

      Tee Hee…can’t bamboozle the Rev.

    • 58 desertflower
      July 28, 2011 at 6:52 pm

      I have to say, I wish that AL would have slammed that ignorant TP guy a little harder on all the lies he got in: I guess when the ENTIRE PREMISE of your argument starts OUT from the wrong position. 1} 50% of people NEVER PAY TAXES 2)Wealthy create jobs 3)Obama created 4Trillion worth of debt… ALL OF IT IS PROVEN WRONG!!!! Those were only the things I remember off the top of my head. I wish AL would have corrected the willful liar.

      • 59 HZ
        July 28, 2011 at 7:06 pm

        Yes, desertflower, I do believe that Rev. Al wanted to get into it. The teapot was talking so fast, and I think that Rev. Al did not want to be loud on this foolish man. But this is a heart(the teapot) speaks. ‘Out of the heart, the mouth speaks.”

      • 60 prettyfoot58
        July 28, 2011 at 9:01 pm

        These TP folks leave people with their mouth open….you just can’t believe that they are serious about the things they utter…

  21. 61 Doris
    July 28, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    A lot of rich people are creating jobs, their just not creating them in the United States.- Rev. Al.

  22. 62 nintendowii10
    July 28, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    I love how Al told tea party idiot “Good luck in getting rid of all those Republicans. ” 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    Yeah, let the Tea party primary these radicals and either get even more radical Republicans elected, or in some instances a NY23 and get moderate Democrats elected.

    And the Tea party wonders why NO ONE is showing up to their rallies, just ask Louie Goober… eeer Gohmert 😀

  23. 63 HZ
    July 28, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Here comes Heidi.. I cannot stand that woman.

  24. July 28, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Great, now I’m going to have to add Rev. Al to my nightly watching when I get home.

    This, from ThinkProgress, my new favorite news website: PELOSI SUPPORTS CLEAN VOTE ON DEBT CEILING INCREASE | During a question-and-answer session yesterday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said, “If we don’t come to a conclusion soon, Democrats in the House are saying, we must pass a clean debt ceiling bill while continuing our discussions, as we know we must to reduce the deficit.” The Congressional Black Caucus has also said that a clean vote is the path out of the current stalemate. Today, the Congressional Progressive Caucus announced its support of Rep. Peter Welch’s (D-VT) clean vote proposal to get out of the current crisis.

    • 65 desertflower
      July 28, 2011 at 6:54 pm

      LL…thanks. I hate to say I told you so, but if this goes down the way I think it will….I’d be so happy,We talked about this today:)

    • 66 prettyfoot58
      July 28, 2011 at 7:11 pm

      a clean debt ceiling bill will be the way out for the moderate republicans….on the house and the senate….

      Leader Pelosi will texting the Speaker….pssssssst….i have a way out for you……and a way to save your Speakership

      A Clean DeBt Ceiling bill…..Be the speaker of the whole house……join us and we will pass this clean debt ceiling bill…..

      go on your own….and you will loseeeeeeeeeeee…..

      • 67 desertflower
        July 28, 2011 at 7:17 pm

        Well, as LO said last night..Boner could get all the R’s MINUS ALL the TP’s and all the Dems and get the clean bill out of the house. Senate would pass

  25. 68 Linda
    July 28, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    Hello….I am a guest here, but wanted to share this with you all. I love this site.

    Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two

    I hope you all like it.

    • 69 Doris
      July 28, 2011 at 6:51 pm

      Welcome Linda and thanks for the vid. We’re addicted too. 😀

    • 71 utaustinliberal
      July 28, 2011 at 6:57 pm

      Thanks for this Linda. Welcome to the family. Hope you visit more and drop a line or two. 😀

      • 72 Linda
        July 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm

        Thank you so much….I love your posts….I would love your opinion on this video. The person who is the “Chairman/Referee” is Eddie Murphy’s brother.

        • 73 HZ
          July 28, 2011 at 7:11 pm

          Linda, welcome. Glad you dropped in. Yes, we love our family here. Come back and share your thoughts. Have a wonderful day, Linda.

        • July 28, 2011 at 7:11 pm

          Cool video Linda. Thanks so much. looking forward to talking with you more 😉

        • 77 utaustinliberal
          July 28, 2011 at 7:38 pm

          Hey Linda I just finished watching the video and once again a BIG THANK YOU!!!!!! for posting it here. I’ve always been a Lord John Maynard Keynes admirer and also an admirer of Keynesian economics. This video just boosted my belief in his economic theories. Hayek didn’t seem to understand that if one leaves markets to regulate itself, then the freemarket will run wild with greed, reckless speculation and volatile trading and then crash and burn. We’ll essentailly be where we were in 2007-2008. Keynes theory is more sound and more responsible in my opinon. He cited the great depression and how we recovered from that economic disaster because of WWll. We made weapons, we sold them, we had money for infrastructure and a bunch of social programs came into existence. He also pointed out that after the success; FDR decided austerity was the way to go and BAM! the economy began tanking again. The other salient point he made was that unlike Hayek allowing the free market to run amok, regulation and oversight is always needed to control big business, unless the fat cats will screw everyone ten times over. He reminded us that we always need to look out for the middle and working class because they also work hard and don’t deserve to have their dreams squashed due to the greed and lack of conscience of the uber wealthy. Keynes point can be seen when in 2009 President Obama passed a stimulus bill that pulled the economy from the brink of a catastrophic disaster. If he had not spent money to put extra revenue into the American peoples pockets, then money wouldn’t have been pumped back into the economy and unemployment would be way way way WORSE. What the GOP doesn’t understand is that if you provide more job initatives that lead to jobs for people, consumer confidence rises, they spend, and money is injected into the economy. It’s not that hard to understand. Once again thanks for this LInda and please keep bringing us more and also feel free to drop a line or two. 😀

          • 78 Linda
            July 28, 2011 at 7:45 pm

            Thanks……I hang out here all day (I retired early last year and work for my son’s business from home). I love that Keynes was the winner (in my view). The film makers are both Hayek fans.

    • 79 lmrj
      July 28, 2011 at 7:14 pm

      LIKE IT! Well done.

      • 80 Linda
        July 28, 2011 at 7:28 pm

        I am glad you enjoyed it. I am addicted to cspan Q&A and saw the film makers and clips there first. I understand this is there second one about this issue.

        The first was not nearly as good.

  26. 81 nintendowii10
    July 28, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Heidi Harris is a bubbeheaded bimbo. Sorry, gotta call a spade a spade, she doesn’t know shit!

  27. July 28, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    I think he’ll get his vote eventually, too much pressure to bear will be enough to break off a vote or two.

  28. July 28, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    this Heidi chick is so fracking annoying: “there are ppl who support you that you wouldn’t have dinner with….that’s not his fault, it shouldn’t be held against him [Rick Perry]. this is all the left’s fault…..” ahhhhhh. LIAR!!!! How did that work for PBO Heidi?! Fracking idiot. 😕

    • 89 nintendowii10
      July 28, 2011 at 6:59 pm

      yeah, Heidi conveniently forgets how the right attempted to swift boat Obama in 2008 with Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers. So Heidi Harris doesn’t mind if Obama is swift boated with his associations, but doesn’t enjoy it when a Republican is swift boated with their associations, fucking BITCH!!!!!

    • 90 HZ
      July 28, 2011 at 7:02 pm

      Thank you lisa.

  29. 91 ChristiMtl
    July 28, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    The Rev. is really been attacked from all sides. The PL/haters really hate him as much as they hate the President.

    I saw this on Twitter earlier, I didn’t click, I don’t go on Huf

    Huffington Post: “Al Sharpton Brings Baggage, Conflict of Interest and No Discernible Talent to MSNBC

    I saw also something about affirmative action, I think it’s the Daily Beast. I don’t go there either but saw it on Twitter as well.

    I really don’t like this ugliness, like he is beneath them, it’s disgusting.

    Just a reminder to please send tweets or emails to MSNBC regularly, to thank them.

    We have his back.

    • 92 Doris
      July 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm

      I saw that and didn’t click. They will get no hits from me.

    • 93 nintendowii10
      July 28, 2011 at 7:04 pm

      And this is supposedly the “liberal” HuffnPuff post. Sounds just like Sludge Report to me, using baseless smears and attacks against a liberal activist.

      • 94 Obama Grandmama
        July 29, 2011 at 2:32 am

        Doesn’t Howard Fineman work for Huffington Post now? He seems more antiObama these days than before.

    • 95 lmrj
      July 28, 2011 at 7:10 pm

      Unfortunately, this mess nothing new for Rev. Al. He has been fighting in the trenches for too many years (all of his life). That’s why he’s so sharp and so unflappable.

    • 96 COS
      July 28, 2011 at 7:14 pm

      Rev Al has his own following and he is an activist. I am sure he has heard worse. I will definitely do my part to add to his ratings. I agree with you about the ugliness.

    • July 28, 2011 at 7:59 pm

      They don’t like the Rev because he supports PBO. Can you Imagine??? 😯

    • 99 LunarSea
      July 28, 2011 at 9:10 pm

      Good evening all. Just catching up on all I missed today, then off to the twitterz. I agree I never click a huffNpuff link, but I gotta say this piece has @janehamshire’s fingerprints on it. Sound just like the type of piece she would do.

  30. 100 Marlz
    July 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    I love the ending of the Rev’s show.
    Great show Rev. Al.

    • July 28, 2011 at 7:18 pm

      I concur lmrj. I read last evening about this mess somewhere else. I do not go to Huff at all.(that is my own preference) And Martz, I also loved how Rev. Al ended his program tonight. Just remember the vile will come out with anyone defending the President’s record. Rev. Al will handle them.

    • 102 prettyfoot58
      July 28, 2011 at 7:19 pm

      This is what the Rev brings….that no one else can….he has been in the trenches…and it shows

  31. 104 hopefruit2
    July 28, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Okay, Chris Matthews is back on his “Obama-losing-support-among-his-base” garbage. I mean give me a break already. Aren’t these pundits tired of their broken record about this President so-called losing support? They sing this stupid song whenever a poll or two fluctuates downwards- it should be understood that the President’s poll numbers will fluctuate up and down several times between now and Nov 2012. The bigger and more important question is: Who is going to be the GOP nominee for 2012 and how does that person stack up against the President, not just now, but once the campaign season starts to heat up. Any other “analysis” and prognostications by these overpaid, do-nothing pundits is just BS.

    • 105 lmrj
      July 28, 2011 at 7:12 pm


    • 106 57andFemale
      July 28, 2011 at 7:12 pm

      Yeah. My husband just said, “He is?!?” I had to explain it to him. We need to be mindful of how little some people hear, even the well-intentioned.
      I get so tired of explaining things sometimes……..

      • 107 hopefruit2
        July 28, 2011 at 7:28 pm

        And what’s more, Tweety is using a “generic” Republican to illustrate his point…

        Um…what happened to the Republicans who are ACTUALLY running for President – like Pawlenty, Bachman, Cain, Ron Paul, Romney, Huntsman, etc?

        Nice try, Chris Matthews – but FAIL. If you have to resort to using some mythical “generic” Republican (when actual candidates exist) to suggest that the President is losing support, you’ve already lost the argument.

    • 108 prettyfoot58
      July 28, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      i can’t watch him…turned the sound down,,,

    • 109 nintendowii10
      July 28, 2011 at 7:24 pm

      Fuck Tweety, he’s the very same man who slobbers over Sarah Palin and wants inside of her panties… not to mention how he golfs with Tom Delay, a convicted felon.

      • 110 57andFemale
        July 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm

        Naw, in all fairness he has been pretty great for weeks now. It’s like he finally realized the danger of not calling Republicans for what they are. He’s been great. So a return to the old b.s. was bothersome today.

    • 111 Ladyhawke
      July 28, 2011 at 7:27 pm

      So now the pendulum is swinging back to President Obama Is losing his base. Nonsense. As I like to say, you could get whiplash trying to keep up with Tweety. I have pretty much given up on him. However, he had a pretty good interview last night with Bruce Bartlett about the debt limit crisis. But even then, he was all over Bartlett as if he had enlightened him so much. But bottom line, Bartlett was basically verbalizing the US National Debt Chart that the White House put out the other day. He totally eviscerated the GOP talking points. The interview was pretty good, except Bartlett had to show he was a Republican by criticizing President Obama for being moderate and conservative.

      • 112 hopefruit2
        July 28, 2011 at 7:30 pm

        He’s so-called losing his base to a “generic” Republican – a figment of the media’s imagination and pining – who doesn’t and WILL NEVER exist.

      • 113 Obama Grandmama
        July 29, 2011 at 2:40 am

        What I have noticed about Chris Matthews is he uses Howard Fineman a lot. Lately since HF has gone to an internet news organization (I was asking above if it was Huff Puff) HF seems to be totally against PBO lately and Chris seems swayed by HF and joins in on the criticism. CM has been putting Boehner, Cantor, and the Teaparty in their place lately though.

    • 114 LunarSea
      July 28, 2011 at 9:21 pm

      Expect PBO’s poll numbers to start looking really bad. Remember the other day there was an article where Rasmussen was quoted being surprised that PBO was still polling so high after all the crap they threw at him and all the rigged polling questions? He sound down right defeated in the article.

      I expect the polling to get even shadier and more deceptive in the coming months as they try to create their reality to fit with the voices in their head. So save your sanity and don’t pay them much mind. The only polling that counts is Nov 4 2012.

    • 116 geegee
      July 28, 2011 at 9:32 pm

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say again, I’ve never in all my 68 (soon to be 69) years saw so much polling done on a president. I am starting to believe as many of you do: that our PBO has caused these people to go BatS insane, 😆 .

  32. 117 Blue
    July 28, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Hit piece on Rev. Al on the Huffington post! These people are so desperate!!


    • 118 Linda
      July 28, 2011 at 7:18 pm

      I read that…….Jason Linkins is one of the PL ? He has done hit pieces on the President a couple times.

      • 119 LunarSea
        July 28, 2011 at 9:23 pm

        I used to follow him on twitter about 1 yr ago. I UNfollowed him after a few days. Yup. He was that bad.

    • July 28, 2011 at 7:23 pm

      huff n puff can stick it up their thieving asses and smoke it. they are so petty and stupid it’s transparent. what the frack ever. 🙄 Their hero Cenk-the-dumbass got downgraded and they decided to do a hit piece on his replacement. Rev. Al got better ratings. Wake up a-holes: Money talks and assholes walk.

    • 121 nintendowii10
      July 28, 2011 at 7:29 pm

      They’re jealous because Rev. Al is successful, just like they’re jealous because President Obama is successful. I gave up on HuffnPuff when they continued to call for PBO to be primaried with Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Anthony Wiener, Keith Olbermann, Underdog… OK I threw Underdog in, but you get my point 😀

  33. July 28, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    THIS is interesting. It might be in other comments and I missed it, but this is in The Washington Monthly:


    There is more and more talk, especially among House Democrats, that if no compromise can be reached on the debt ceiling by August 2nd, Obama should assert his power under the 14th Amendment to raise the ceiling himself by executive order. Bill Clinton helped pave the way for this resurgent interest in the “constitutional option” by saying, in an interview with Joe Conason last week, that if he were in Obama’s shoes he’d do so “without hesitation.”

    Of course, a cynic might suspect that a former president, no longer burdened by the pressures of actually having to govern, would be tempted to advise actions more brave and bold than he himself was willing to take when he in power. But as I have noted before while in office Clinton, like many other presidents—FDR, Truman—was perfectly willing to negotiating the outer limits of the law when occasions demanded it:

    [describes Clinton during Mexican peso crisis].

    While the debt ceiling standoff is a bigger deal than even the Mexican peso crisis was, the point is that Clinton—who, like Obama, taught constitutional law—has arguably a better feel for the position Obama finds himself in than just about any person on Earth. So when he says he would invoke the 14th Amendment powers “without hesitation,” I suspect that means Obama will, too.

    • July 28, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      And here is a wonderful comment on that article:

      dan on July 28, 2011 4:56 PM:

      Obama didn’t telegraph his intention to attack Bin Ladin on Pakistani territory – he just engaged in the nation’s shortest war, unilaterally, when it was obvious that that was his only practical path to achieve a key national security goal. He’s shown a cool head and a willingness to make hard choices, even when his choice was not the one I wanted him to make. When some commentators deride him for failing to use the bully pulpit to direct us toward the option he wants, he’s just conforming to the basic rules of separation of powers, allowing congress to take the lead in this process right to the brink of their default (!) of their responsibility. He’s a realist and a pragmatist, and I can’t imagine he’d allow the nation to founder for no better reason than that it’s supposed to be congress’ job to throw it a life preserver. If there’s one thing Americans love it’s an action hero, and I think that’s what he’ll look like when he acts decisively in the face of congressional dithering. The right can try to spin it negatively, but the most of us I think really are centrists and we’ll approve of his action. He just can’t spike the narrative by tipping his hand in advance, or it will look like a power grab instead of a rescue operation.

      • 124 Me4obama
        July 28, 2011 at 7:21 pm

        Amen Suzanne, amen. I have these thoughts in my head how this nightmare will end but anyone who underestimates this Great Man do it on their own peril.

      • July 28, 2011 at 7:27 pm

        And in the middle of the storm: when the head is quiet, keep you eye on the plan ahead. Our President of the United States is working right now on this and every other important issue that we are facing. We can count on it. How soon we forget the OBL case. You better believe Timmy(my endearing name for another brainy man,,love them) , the President, his advisors, lawyers but most of all President Barack Obama is on top of this. Remember, “I God This”. They will not leave President Barack Obama or the American people and the world at the altar again. NOT THIS TIME. Count on it. No More, Mr. Speaker and Teapotters.

    • 126 57andFemale
      July 28, 2011 at 8:52 pm

      It was classless for Bill Clinton to insert himself in this situation, and do it on so potentially explosive an issue. It was outrageous. Whether we agree or disagree, a former President should be respectful of the office and keep his mouth shut.

      Bill Clinton has always had a problem with (1) his ego; and (2) weighing the consequences of his actions. It was a classless stunt.

      • 127 LunarSea
        July 28, 2011 at 9:31 pm

        Thank you. I so totally agree. I don’t remember ANY previous president making appearances everywhere telling any sitting president what they should do. Not Bush the elder, Bush Jr., Carter nor Reagan when he was alive. I haven’t heard Ford of anyone else pulling this on a sitting president. Nor have I heard any vice pres. beside Cheney do this.

        Bill needs to check his ego. He certainly doesn’t need the money they pay him and he has other things going on so I say STFU Billy Boy. Your time as President is passed.

        Bill Clinton joins Cheney as the only 2 to pull that crap. How’s that Bill. The 2 of you don’t know when to sit down and keep quiet. Nice company you’re keeping there.

      • 128 EDP4BHO
        July 28, 2011 at 9:56 pm

        “Bill Clinton has always had a problem with (1) his ego; and (2) weighing the consequences of his actions.”

        and (3)…..keeping his fly zipped !

      • July 28, 2011 at 10:15 pm

        57, I have a different perspective about Bill Clinton saying that. He was giving President Obama legitimacy to do it. Bill was elected twice and is still respected and popular. I think he said that so that people would think it was a credible, presidential action.

    • 131 Obama Grandmama
      July 29, 2011 at 2:48 am

      Randi Rhodes had a couple of people calling in that were lawyers today advising against using the 14th Amendment to bypass the Congress. One of them read further into the Amendment and showed were it was not applicable. The other one mentioned not trusting this Supreme Court and that Impeachment could be a iikely result. I thought about how the PL might like his doing that as well as all of the commentators and as soon as PBO gets in trouble they would abandon him and forget it was their own idea.

  34. July 28, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    I might also say, for those of you who are trying to get information from sources that are aggravating, there is a wonderful community of excellent progressive blogs that are coming together. The Obama Diary and The only adult in the room are two of them of course 🙂 and Smartypants has a blogroll of them on the left side. I also check Steve Benen. I get a progressive interpretation that fits with my beliefs about how things work as well as giving me good information. And I sure feel much more optimistic and able to take positive action.


  35. 133 desertflower
    July 28, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    get the freaking jackass from LA off the tv…honest to god the lies and the weavers that tell them are making me nuts!

  36. July 28, 2011 at 7:22 pm


    Joe Klein has a good article in Time: Republicans’ Debt Ceiling Charade Is Downright Dangerous

    Let us not put too fine a point on it: Thursday’s House vote on Speaker John Boehner’s debt ceiling proposal is a joke. If it passes the House, Harry Reid has said it is dead on arrival in the Senate. If it somehow passes the Senate, which it won’t, President Obama will veto it. It is, therefore, a symbolic act that is wasting precious time. It follows last week’s Republican theatrics, the passage of the Cut and Demolish Act (or whatever they called it), which also was a waste of time. These are the actions of a party that has completely lost track of reality–and of a leader, John Boehner, who has lost the support of his party.

    And so I have a proposal: the Cut the Crap Act….

    • 137 Ladyhawke
      July 28, 2011 at 7:56 pm

      Thanks for this Suzanne. Joe Klein makes it a point to put the blame where it belongs, squarely on the Republican Party. He doesn’t go to the pox on both their houses route as most lazy media stenographers are want to do. You know, both sides do it. I found it very refreshing.

      And so, here we are. Our nation’s economy and international reputation as the world’s presiding grownup has already been badly damaged. It is a self-inflicted wound of monumental stupidity. I am usually willing to acknowledge that Democrats can be as silly, and hidebound, as Republicans–but not this time. There is zero equivalence here. The vast majority of Democrats have been more than reasonable, more than willing to accept cuts in some of their most valued programs. Given the chance, there was the likelihood that they would have surrendered their most powerful weapon in next year’s election–a Mediscare campaign–by agreeing to some necessary long-term reforms in that program. The President, remarkably, proposed raising the age of eligibility for Medicare to 67.

      The Republicans have been willing to concede nothing. Their stand means higher interest rates, fewer jobs created and more destroyed, a general weakening of this country’s standing in the world. Osama bin Laden, if he were still alive, could not have come up with a more clever strategy for strangling our nation.


  37. July 28, 2011 at 7:26 pm


    Republicans Suspending House Floor Action; Vote Still Expected

    House Republican leaders are temporarily suspending floor action Thursday night so they can intensify efforts to round up enough votes to pass Speaker John Boehner’s debt ceiling and deficit-reduction bill. A vote later in the evening is still expected.

    GOP leaders said they were “very close” to the 216-vote threshold necessary to pass the Boehner bill. But the fluidity of the vote count and the grim reality that Boehner might lose the biggest vote of his young speakership made GOP leaders conspicuously cautious. No one, several GOP sources said, could afford to risk a defeat of Boehner’s bill and the image of chaos it would create – not to mention the certain stock market volatility it would trigger.

    GOP leaders could not predict a time Thursday when the vote would occur. Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy’s office advised lawmakers at 6:31 p.m. to “stay nearby as we expect a vote later tonight. Stay tuned for further updates for more accurate timing.”

    • July 28, 2011 at 7:33 pm

      I wonder what Bonehead is using to whack the teapoopers upside the head? My guess: locking them in a room with a recording on loop of Bailin’ Palin saying that she can see Russia from her house. OR they’re locked in a room being tortured with 5 minutes of her movie: “How to Look Dumb and Act Like An Asshole while Making Mula, Bitches!”

  38. July 28, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    You know TOD family, I remember when Michael Steele former RNC ChairUser drove all around bad mouthing then wonderful Speaker Nancy Pelosi, I said this is ugly and unnecessary, and it will draw ugly and vile people to his party, and look what happened. I will put a lot of this at his feet, I mean the mean spirit of it. He was not a leader, and look how these people have been elevated up in their party Ryan, Cantor to hurt so many. But I have faith, we will prevail. We have a decent man in the Oval Office, and we have decent and hardworking people supporting him. I want to thank our wonderful Chipsticks and BWD for our havens. May they both be blessed for all that they do . Thank you, and Thank you. I love you both back also, HZ

    • 141 57andFemale
      July 28, 2011 at 7:45 pm

      And Michael Steele is currently employed by MSNBC and is spouting his b.s. as we speak.

      • July 29, 2011 at 12:36 am

        Yes, we know, but that will not last, and we surely know that he can still shout out his ugly conversations, but look who is still working for the people and doing a great job, the man of good character, President Barack Obama.

    • 143 LunarSea
      July 28, 2011 at 9:36 pm

      I blame 3 people for all this: Sara the Quitter, Rush Limpballs and Norquiem for a Dream. Those three spread their crazy far and wide. They may ugly fashionable. They should be the first to go…

      • 144 isonprize
        July 28, 2011 at 10:58 pm

        OOOH, Lunar, you may giving them far to much credit. Those you mentioned are carrying the torch. That torch was LIT by Richard Nixon and his hateful, divisive “Southern Strategy.” And let’s not forget Ronnie Raygun, Reagan and his “trickle down economics.” Add DIck “warmonger” Cheney to the mix (considering that he ran the country for GW…) and you’ve hit the trifecta!!

        Add Koch brother’s money and mix it all up? You get a bizillion dollar debt, dead soldiers, rabid-ass, treasonous crazies in the House of Representatives and folks who are quite proud of their backward, racist, sexist, box-of-rocks stupidness. They are hateful, mean, evil, and spiteful.

        And yet. WE WILL PREVAIL. As a country, we have been thru more than this.

        “Nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices calling for change.”
        — Barack Obama

  39. July 28, 2011 at 7:42 pm


    White House Office Hours

    Use the hashtag #WHChat on Twitter to ask administration officials your questions on President Obama’s speech and the ongoing deficit debate. White House staff will respond to your questions in real-time via Twitter during Office Hours. Here’s the schedule so far, follow @WhiteHouse for the latest updates and more chances to engage:

    Friday, July 29

    10:00 a.m. EDT: Office Hours with Jason Furman, Principal Deputy Director of the National Economic Council
    4:00 p.m. EDT: Office Hours with Brian Deese, Deputy Director of the National Economic Council
    Please note that we will do our best to stick to this Office Hours schedule, but time

  40. July 28, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Oh, Lisa, we need to get ready for our date with LOD. I have our reservations set at 5:00 sharp.Now he better not show up acting foolish, or this girl will be very upset. So I need to go and get pretty. Already there, but a girl has to do what she has to do to keep the brainy ones. See back here.

  41. 147 Ladyhawke
    July 28, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Media Matters links to this item from their Political Correction roundup today. It’s very sobering.

    Analysis: the debt deal and you

    20 things that could happen if no debt deal is reached

    July 28, 2011, 6:48AM


    • 148 desertflower
      July 28, 2011 at 8:37 pm

      That’s sobering. There are those that would say that NONE of this will happen, it’s all BS. That, to me, IS MORE SOBERING

  42. July 28, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    jay my second hubby on Lawry right now!!!!!

  43. 151 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    My Man, My Man, My Man, My Man JAAAAAYYY!!!!!

  44. 152 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    He is smiling. What a cutieeee. Iam dying.

  45. July 28, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    My man has arrived, Lisa. Now we need to talk, girl. This is my date tonight.

    • July 28, 2011 at 8:17 pm

      say whaaaaaaaaat?! HZ, Me4, hate to disappoint you ladies (not!!!), but my second hubby just called me on the phone and we just set up a date night.

      • July 28, 2011 at 8:19 pm

        Sorry Lisa. We are on the date. Did you see that cute wink as he went to commerical? Mine.

      • 157 Me4obama
        July 28, 2011 at 8:24 pm

        Sorry Lisa, you can have Lawrence but Jay is mine, he is so cute to be shared, he winked at me twice and told me Iam the only one on his mind, not even the debt ceiling comes close.

  46. 158 Doris
    July 28, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Clear and concise. No drama, just the facts. Love that. Thanks Jay.

  47. 159 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    What a man in My Jay Carney, I was so destructed by his cuteness I didn’t hear some of the stuff he was saying. He knew exactly where Lawrence was going in his questioning, then he would smile at me in advance and tell me, me4obama I got this, Lawrence is trying to trick me but am holding steady.

    • July 28, 2011 at 8:22 pm

      I saw that Me4obama. My son had great upbrining as a child in our home. Great and smart son. That is why he is in the position that he is in at the great WH of President Obama’s presidency. You have great taste in wonderful men, I must say.

    • 161 Ladyhawke
      July 28, 2011 at 8:39 pm

      That’s it, I just can’t watch Howard Fineman looking like a cheshire cat. I don’t want to know what HIS SOURCES are telling him. The man makes my skin crawl. And I have lost it for that weasel Sam Stein with his Huff & Puff roots. I will avert my eyes and hit the mute until it is safe to watch the next segment on The Last Word. I am so sorry I missed the adorable and brilliant Jay Carney. I will catch him during the rerun later tonight. That rascal sure is popular around these parts.

  48. 162 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Good morning Lawrence, bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Poor Shumer.

    • July 28, 2011 at 8:24 pm

      Me4obama, I called Senator Schumer’s office and thanked him. They were very appreciative on the phone.

      • 164 Me4obama
        July 28, 2011 at 8:28 pm

        Thanks HZ for your calls, we need to keep up the pressure. With your daily prayers and words of wisdom, we will prevail in the end. We are in Good hands, PBO is in charge.

        • July 28, 2011 at 8:33 pm

          No problem Me4obama. That is part of our beautiful job to support such a great President in my lifetime.

        • July 28, 2011 at 9:02 pm

          Praying For The Government

          1Tim 2:1…………Heavenly Father, I give thanks for our government.
          1 Tim 2:2………..I pray for all men and women having authority over us in any way.
          Prov. 1:23……….Pour out Your Spirit upon them and make Your Word known to them.
          Ps 25:21………..Cause them to be men and women of integrity, obedient concerning us,
          1 Tim 2:2………..that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, in all godliness and honesty.
          Prov. 2:10……….Let wisdom enter their hearts, and let knowledge be pleasant to them.
          Prov. 2:11……….Let discretion preserve them and understanding keep them,
          Prov. 2:12……….to deliver them from the way of evil and from evil men.
          Psalm 1:1……….Make their hearts and ears attentive to godly counsel,
          2Chr 20:32………doing what is right in your sight.
          Prov. 2:21……….Let the upright dwell in our government.
          Heb 12:27……….Cause there to be a shaking in all areas.
          Prov. 2:21……….Let those complete and blameless before You stay.
          Prov. 2:22……….and cut off the wicked. Let the unfaithful be rooted out.
          1Cor 4:5…………Bring to light what is hidden in darkness,
          1Cor 4:5…………and expose the secret aims of the hearts.
          Rev 2:5………….Let this nation remember from where they have fallen,
          Rev 2:5………….repenting, and returning to doing their first works,
          1Chr 22:19……..setting their hearts and their souls to seek the Lord,
          2Chr 7:14……….humbling themselves, praying, and turning from their wicked ways.
          2Chr 7:14……….Then hear them, O Lord, and forgive their sins and heal our land.
          Acts 26:18……..Open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light.
          Heb 3:13………..Soften the hearts that are hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
          Ps 107:20……….Deliver them from their destructions.
          2Pet 3:9…………Father, You have been longsuffering toward us,
          2Pet 3:9…………not willing that any should perish,
          2Pet 3:9…………but that all should come to repentance.
          Isa 49:22………..Raise up a standard in this nation.
          Zech 10:1……….Cause the rains of Your Spirit to flood this land
          Hab 3:2………….and revive Your work in the midst of us.
          Isa 59:16………..Raise up intercessors for this nation
          2Cor 10:4……….to pull down strongholds over this land.
          Isa 40:5…………And let the glory of the Lord be revealed!

          • 167 lmrj
            July 28, 2011 at 9:30 pm

            AMEN…. AMEN…. AMEN!!!!!!!

          • 168 geegee
            July 28, 2011 at 10:00 pm

            AMEN and AMEN. All praises to God the good!

          • 169 EDP4BHO
            July 28, 2011 at 10:06 pm

            I must say Amen to this, dun. Thank you. Prayer is of the utmost importance at times like these.

            • July 29, 2011 at 12:46 am

              Thank you dun. Prayers are so important in these times especially. We have so many people who will be hurt very badly in this situation all over the globe. In our meditations, quiet moments, and prayers, hopefully that good energy will bring a little more hope and peace in this storm. I have faith and believe in favor of granting wisdom to our President and his team.

          • 171 LAPalm
            July 29, 2011 at 12:36 am

            Amen! Amen! Amen!
            Thank you Dun…God Bless you!

  49. July 28, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Fineman: the tea party will be darned if they go with Bonehead’s plans
    Lisa: good for you teapoopers. good for you.

  50. July 28, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    I can’t stand Fineman: PBO has given away the store. 🙄 twerp. 😕

    • 175 hopefruit2
      July 28, 2011 at 8:41 pm

      Fineman has been singing that false tune for a longest while. It’s pathologically compulsive with him at this point. Notice, he almost NEVER mentions the Democrats in congress – his whole angle is a personal set of attacks on the President. His aim is to portray the President as a weak inept negotiator.

      This man is intensely threatened by Barack Obama.

      • July 28, 2011 at 8:44 pm

        So true hope. Jealousy is such an ugly look. 😕

        • 177 EDP4BHO
          July 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm

          “Jealousy is such an ugly look”

          So is that damn rug on his head. Who looks the worst, Fineman or Trump? And Lisa, you are a riot. Did you ever have to stand in the corner in school 😀 I’m kidding, but seriously, did you?

          • July 28, 2011 at 10:29 pm

            hahahahahhahhahahahhahahahahahahahhahahha!!!!! 😆 you are hilarious, EDP!!! You’re right. But with what Ms. Huff N Puff pays him, I doubt he could afford a better rug!!!
            ps- I ALWAYS got in trouble in school. Sometimes I’m amazed at how far I’ve come 😉

            • 179 EDP4BHO
              July 28, 2011 at 10:46 pm

              LOL. Thanks for the chuckle. You really do remind me of a friend I had who used to have me in stitches all the time. Actually I’ve had a couple of friends like you. Love, love, love a good laugh. With that I’m off to bed, and let us all keep PBO in our prayers. Also, he will be on Rev Al’s radio program tomorrow, if it wasn’t already mentioned. Nite 😀

          • 182 Obama Grandmama
            July 29, 2011 at 2:54 am

            Speaking of Trump he is threatening to run again. This time as an Independent. I think the Miss Universe tv show is coming up. I hope that is the reason and not that he really will run. Could you see his family as the First Family?

    • 183 utaustinliberal
      July 28, 2011 at 8:44 pm

      He really is annoying. He and his evil spawn Sam Stein. Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap that’s all they know how to do. Every question, even if it doesn’t pertain to PBO, they always find a way to drag him into their slimy “analysis.” They’re just empty barrels.

      • 184 hopefruit2
        July 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm

        They are obsessed with President Obama because he is far superior to them on just about every level – and they KNOW it.

    • July 28, 2011 at 8:50 pm

      I walked away from our table. Could not stand Fineman nor Stein.

      • July 28, 2011 at 9:07 pm

        The President doesn’t waste his time with the likes of Fineman or Stein, they are nobody, so they have become anti-Obama. I don’t know why O’Donnell keep having that clown Fineman on his show.

  51. 187 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    They always find a way to bring PBO in the Republican mess. Fineman never disappoints to spin it regardless of all the facts infront of him.

    • 188 Doris
      July 28, 2011 at 8:40 pm

      Arianna’s man.

    • 189 hopefruit2
      July 28, 2011 at 8:44 pm

      He’s clearly threatened by OBama – he can no longer hide it (although I saw signs of it very early on in 2009). Now he doesn’t even fake with a little bit of “analysis” anymore, he goes straight for the anti-Obama put-downs and insults.

    • 190 Ladyhawke
      July 28, 2011 at 8:46 pm

      I knew he was going to go there, that’s why I could not watch. No matter what happens, in the end it must have been because of something PBO did. Maybe Howard should read Joe Kleins article. He might learn something about who is responsible for this mess.

      • 191 hopefruit2
        July 28, 2011 at 8:50 pm

        I don’t think Howard wants to read anything that runs to his desired narrative. His goal is consistent with the goal of the majority of Republicans and some Democrats – to bring down this President.

  52. July 28, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    I love NYP headline: a Huge picture of Bonehead with the headline: Raging Boner 😆 tehe :mrgreen:
    ps- it actually says : Raging Boehner, but it reads :Raging Boner. tehe 🙂

  53. July 28, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    why does Hannity look like Snookie without the bump?

    • July 28, 2011 at 8:52 pm

      Hannity is a evil man. Lying on the President. That is what a hater and liar will do to your values. McCain is awful and still hateful that he could not win over President Obama. He should be shameful.

      • July 28, 2011 at 8:54 pm

        I don’t believe either he or McCain were born with a conscience……. so glad McCain isn’t president. I shudder to imagine what all the hell he and his idiot sidekick would be doing to us now.

  54. July 28, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    that should be an evil (an before a vowel) Lawrence has me so worked up on this date when he invited Fineman especially at our table.

    • 198 Me4obama
      July 28, 2011 at 8:58 pm

      Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha, HZ, am having a good time with My Jay Carney at my date, he brought me some Presidential M&Ms and roses from the white house rose garden. He keeps telling me am the only one on his mind right now. No debt ceiling talk.

      • July 28, 2011 at 9:09 pm

        Okay, Me4obama. Mother’s son , but I would have liked it if he had not taken the M&Ms from the candy drawer. Maybe he could have called the florist to get you his own roses. Mommy has to give him a call about his manners.

  55. 200 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Granny, granny, granny, I wonder what this Great country would look like if President Comb over granny was leading it, with the undefeated quitter.

  56. 201 utaustinliberal
    July 28, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    This is why I never trusted John McCain when he seemed like was calling out teabaggers on the senate floor. I just knew that if you got him in front of a Fox News camera or on the radio with Limbaugh he would cave like a soggy diaper. He is so full of doublespeak. In 2008 he was the “maverick straight-talker who put country first” yet he picked the disease that is Sarah Palin and allowed her to infect the citizens of this country. I will never forget what havoc he wrecked on this country in 2008 and as far as I’m concerned, no matter what he says he is a shyster and a scumbag.

  57. July 28, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Well, Lisa I am fine now with Lawrence. He at least put Ezra away nicely with his comments about President Obama’s statement while he was running.

    • July 28, 2011 at 9:26 pm

      I don’t know why O’Donnell has to have that bastard Howard Fineman on his show all the time. I can’t stand Fineman.

      • 204 lmrj
        July 28, 2011 at 9:42 pm

        It might be as simple as a contractual obligation for certain pundits to appear on a certain amount of shows for a certain amount of hours in a year? Otherwise, it’s just that they are just making sure that they’re fulfilling their contractual obligation to their corporate interests. After all, NBC is owned by Comcast (where the top-tiered execs are repub fundraisers).

  58. 206 Valerie
    July 28, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Love Melissa Harris-Perry sitting in while Rachel is on vacation 🙂

  59. 209 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Toddler thinks am going to stay up and watch this crap bill go down?, HELL TO THE NO.

  60. 210 Ladyhawke
    July 28, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    I am crazy about Jared Bernstein. He is wonderful. That was an excellent segment with him. Very informative. He just makes sense.

  61. July 28, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    So now it seems Boehner couldn’t get the votes with his arm twisting so he’s going to add a Balanced Budget Amendment in order to win teabagger votes – basically he knows this bill is going nowhere but doesn’t want to suffer his bill going down so he’ll give into the baggers to get the bill passed.

    I’m at the point where if it’s going to get killed by the Senate, and this new delay will eat up another day – that maybe enough Dems should vote for it to pass it. Of course then Boehner/Cantor would call it a bi-partisan bill. Maybe if Pelosi, Hoyer and leadership voted for it – because they could get on television and explain why the did it.

    • July 28, 2011 at 9:46 pm

      Oh hell no — no Democrat should vote yes on whatever abomination Boner finally presents! 😈

    • 213 utaustinliberal
      July 28, 2011 at 9:48 pm

      No no and hell no! they should never vote for Boehner’s bill and they especially should NEVER vote for ANY bill that contains a BBA. Are you freaking kidding me? Have you seen what’s in the BBA and what it entails? I don’t care if we’re tired of this farce, we should NEVER EVER encourage democrats to not only commit political suicide but then join hands and vote for a bill that spells destruction to our economy. They should instead save their votes for the Reid bill and rally as much republicans as they can to vote for the Reid bill.

      • July 28, 2011 at 9:53 pm

        I believe they need to add the BBA to pull in the holdouts. If 2-3 Dems voted for the bill now as is, they wouldn’t need to add the BBA and wouldn’t need to send it back to the rules committee etc.

        We’re burning precious time here. It’s Friday folks if there isn’t a vote tonight. Clock runs out in four days. What if Sen. Lee or Sen Paul start playing games with the Reid bill?

        • 215 utaustinliberal
          July 28, 2011 at 10:01 pm

          I’m sorry Str but I don’t freaking care. Yes I know the clock is ticking but to encourage dems or dems hold outs to vote for a BBA is akin to encouraging them to vote for Cut, Cap and Balance or Ryan’s Kill Medicare Plan. A BBA is basically a constitutional amendment not of the smart kind but of the extremely FOOLISH kind. With a BBA in place we would NEVER be able to accomplish anything. If a natural disaster occurred on any other thing of such magnitude the government wouldn’t be able to release sorely needed funds without a 2/3rds majority vote in both houses. With the nonsense teabagger caucus we’re stuck with, do you see a consenus coming together over anything productive? If worse comes to worse we get a clean debt ceiling bill just like what PBO wanted in the first place.

          • July 28, 2011 at 10:13 pm

            That’s not what I’m saying here. From what I understand there is no BBA in the current offering that is short votes. Boehner is now going to add in a BBA in order to get the holdout GOP votes. But to do so it will delay the vote another day (at least).

            If 2-3 Dems voted for the current bill – the one without any BBA – Boehner wouldn’t have to add a BBA in to get the tabagger holdout votes.

            • 217 utaustinliberal
              July 28, 2011 at 10:23 pm

              I think you’re missing the point Str. No dems should vote for the BBA amendment ot Boehner’s plan or Boehner’s plan itself because Boehner is in a desperate spot and is tossing in teabagger nonsense to the final bill and he should rot in his political demise. Also how will Dems in 2012 use this whole farce as a campaign issue to win seats like they used the Ryan Kill Medicare bill to win NY-23 if they vote for such nonsense. It’s hypocritical and once again it is POLITICAL SUICIDE. Besides the bill is DOA in the senate so why should they hand Boehner even a smidgen of “bi-partisan” victory?

          • 218 LunarSea
            July 28, 2011 at 10:15 pm

            Kinda reminds me of California’s predicament. Sorta. I don’t like the idea at. all.

      • 219 Me4obama
        July 28, 2011 at 9:55 pm

        I think a BBA needs 67 votes in the senate to pass, not sure it can get those votes.

    • 220 lmrj
      July 28, 2011 at 9:50 pm

      Not a chance.

    • 221 desertflower
      July 28, 2011 at 9:54 pm

      Not only NO but HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • July 28, 2011 at 10:03 pm

      If, by chance, Boner’s bill makes it out of the House — it will be such a disaster that no Democrat’s name should be attached to it. He’s throwing all kinds of TeaParty madness into it now in order to get it to pass. Step back and think of that — he’s somewhere on Capitol Hill right now just shoving all kinds of slashes and cuts and craziness into this bill so the lunatics will vote Yes.

      All for a bill that will NOT become law.

      Democrats will be able to run against these same House members and beat them over the head with this abominable vote the same way Democrats ran — and won — against Paul Ryan’s (failed) budget.

      To vote yes on this catastrophe would be a sure way for Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  62. 223 LunarSea
    July 28, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    BBA is smoke and mirrors. They all -read that every single republican- voted AGAINST payGo just a few months ago. If they think PBO is against, they are for and visa versa

  63. July 28, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Manchin says he will not vote for the Reid bill. That means it could lose only one more (two if they want to bring Biden in to break the tie). Sanders is surely out as well. Meaning Dems need every other Dem Senator to vote for the Reid bill. How sure are we that Sherrod Brown would vote for it? Nelson? Webb?

    • 225 Me4obama
      July 28, 2011 at 10:00 pm

      Reids Bill isn’t going to pass the senate either. I think PBO will come out tomorrow and call for both parties to work out a deal. Together.

      • July 29, 2011 at 3:57 am

        Isn’t this what he has done for the past month? I think he should stay out of it, let congress burn in hell until Monday, and then Monday night address the nation and invoke the 14th amendment. Be the savior of the country few minutes before default.

  64. 227 Kasai
    July 28, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Hey ED….You should take some responsibility for this mess… We haven’t forgotten that asked people to “Sit this one out” so that you could teach PBO a lesson…..How is that working out for you.

  65. 230 Kasai
    July 28, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    I just did…I suggest everyone does.

    @WegotED.This mess is in part of ur own doing. Remember when u said”Sit this one out” To teach PBO a lesson?How is that working out 4 u?

  66. 232 LunarSea
    July 28, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Okay I know this is going to sound strange but I blame……drum roll please…..The Democrats! for this giant mess and for the situation they have put the country and PBO in.


    I remember toward the end of 2009 when PBO came out in a presser and said now is the time to raise the taxes back to the previous rate on millionaires and billionaires and pass a budget. He saw the writing on the wall back then. I remember being incredulous that the Dem majority didn’t take it up because they were afraid of loosing votes. I thought at the time as I do now, they are all just career pols whose main focus is keeping their seats, not doing what’s right. How could they miss this opportunity?

    PBO got a lot of push back from lots of Dems on the TeeVee machines at the time. I remember thinking that the Dems are always too afraid to act. So if you’re wondering why they are working so hard and all are on message? I’m sure PBO must have given them a nice little ‘I told you so’. that they are now having to deal with this mess.

    PBO practically pleaded with them to do it. It could have been a done deal and the spring and summer of 2011 could have had the budget and debt ceiling off the table, meaning we could have been a lot further along in getting out of the ditch. So while I appreciate all the work they are doing, I think they are all a bunch of foolish WATB just like the teajadists they so disdain.

    If they would’ve acted when the time was ripe we wouldn’t be here now. I know ‘water under the bridge’ but I just had to say it. So if I hear 1 dem say PBO isn’t leading on this, they will get a long hand written letter from me that they may not want to read.

    The worst part of this is watching all the grief that PBO has had to endure as a result of their cowardice, when he’s got a zillion other things to do.

    /end rant

    • 233 Kasai
      July 28, 2011 at 10:41 pm

      I am with you LunaSea.

      I thinks Sanders should be your first Recipient of your letter, since he’s going around saying, that PBO, has disappointed lots of folks.

      I am sick of him and Ed for giving him the platform

    • 234 EDP4BHO
      July 28, 2011 at 10:41 pm

      “PBO practically pleaded with them to do it”

      Exactly, just like he pleaded with all of us to not let the rethugs have the keys to the car. But no, too many were disinterested, and frankly a lot of folk just don’t understand the nature of congressional legislating, thus the importance of mid-term elections. I truly hope those very same people are getting the civics lesson of a lifetime.

      • 235 LunarSea
        July 28, 2011 at 10:43 pm

        “I truly hope those very same people are getting the civics lesson of a lifetime.” yes they say adversity is a great teacher.

    • 236 nospin
      July 29, 2011 at 8:04 am

      Democrats were never in the position to vote for the increase of the debt ceiling last year. That is still the core of this issue. This vote is to make good on debts that occurred under the previous administration. This is now 2011 – Republicans were elected and they are the majority in the House. Republicans are responsible for this situation. So let’s not adopt the meme that somehow not raising the debt ceiling is somehow the Democrats fault.

      These folks are grown men and women who were elected by regular citizens to do a job that would be in the best interest of this country. Republicans put the country in this mess by refusing to get serious about balancing a budget much less doing something as simple as passing the responsible vote to raise the debt ceiling as was done many times in the past. Now I agree with you that PO advised that Congress roll back the Bush tax cuts and some Democrats didn’t want to do that. That is exactly right but LunarSea, that will automatically happen on it’s own anyway as the President has said, he refuses to extend them. He will do nothing and the tax cuts will expire.

      At this point, the most value added thing we could do is to ensure a Democratic win across the spectrum come 2012. If we can help to vote these lunatics out of office and make sure we have responsible representatives in Washington, I am confident that we will see a more responsible effort to address the long term budget issues around 2013.

  67. 237 Kasai
    July 28, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Yes He own it…big time…and now the nerve of him saying the teaparties are winning….and have Sanders, saying, a lot of people are dissapointed in PBO….really?

    He will see once PBO starts campaigning let’s see how many are disappointed….He’s an Idiot. He should be marching in DC…to undo the damage he created in 2010

    • July 28, 2011 at 11:25 pm

      I’m disappointed in Bernie Sanders. I bet you right now the President could get a larger crowd shouting for him, then that old big mouth Sanders. Do Sanders have an email address?

      • 239 COS
        July 28, 2011 at 11:58 pm

        I have stopped watching Sanders at all. He has been a big disappointment in the way he has been bashing PBO lately. He says the same stuff over and over and over and over. I know he means well ,but he need to leave PBO out of this. PBO works from a realistic point of view. Bernie works from what should be in an ideal world.

  68. 240 hopefruit2
    July 28, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    BREAKING NEWS: No vote tonight. Boehner can’t get his caucus in line.

    • July 28, 2011 at 10:44 pm

      Puke Russert supposedly tweeted that the list of no votes was growing rather than shrinking. Also there is something about Pell Grants that baggers found in the Boehner bill that they didn’t like either – which might explain the growing number of no votes.

    • July 29, 2011 at 10:14 am

      ha-ha. ha. I just read this hope and I immediately re-wrote it in my mind and had a good juvenile laugh:

      BREAKING NEWS: No vote tonight. Boehner can’t get it up. 😉

  69. 243 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    I so some breaking news that the vote won’t happen tonight.

  70. 244 Me4obama
    July 28, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Oh boy, he is going to cry all night. It was reported that he cried this afternoon.

    • 245 LunarSea
      July 28, 2011 at 10:46 pm

      He’a a ‘sight to see’. But as bad as he is, the one itching for his seat is down right pathological. “I want what I want and I want it now.”

  71. 246 LunarSea
    July 28, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Russian Diplomats: GOP Senators are “Cold War Monsters”

    From Foreign Policy via Ink Spots, here’s a full-tilt tizzy between a high-ranking Russian official and two Republican senators:

    Dmitry Rogozin, Russia’s ambassador to NATO, met with [Sens. John Kyl (R-Ariz.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) yesterday in Washington—but they probably won’t be meeting again anytime soon…

    “Today in the Senate, I met with Senators Jon Kyl and Mark Kirk. The meeting is very useful because it shows that the alternative to Barack Obama is a collapse of all the programs of cooperation with Russia,” he said. “Today, I had the impression that I was transported in a time machine back several decades, and in front of me sat two monsters of the Cold War, who looked at me not through pupils, but targeting sights.”

    -Mother Jones http://bit.ly/nVW73J

    We must get them all out! They will undo EVERYTHING this president has accomplished.

  72. 248 Kasai
    July 28, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Well…Some bar in DC. is very lucky tonight…and the bartender pockets may be fuller, Boner will drink till his head spins, and cry about the day he didn’t answer PBO phone call.

  73. 252 Doris
    July 28, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Go Rev. Al. So glad he’s around.

  74. July 28, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Boner’s name will live in infamy as synonymous with political ineptitude. He’s not cut out for work of any type, especially not the high-stakes work of governing.

    What did he say the other night? “I never thought I would be going mano a mano with the President of the United States.” HA! This idiot probably thought he wouldn’t have to do any type of work after November 2010. Get up off your drunken ass, Rusty — it doesn’t get better!

  75. July 28, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    And think about it: NONE OF THIS HAD TO HAPPEN! There was absolutely no reason — and no prior history — for there to be ANY strings attached to the debt ceiling vote. The teapublicans decided to hold the vote hostage to their own idiotic ideology. This could have been squared away months ago but now they’ve exposed their asses for the whole country and whole world to see.

    • 255 Ladyhawke
      July 29, 2011 at 12:01 am

      After two years of unprecedented accomplishments, the voters decided that the President Obama and the Democrats just weren’t turning around the economy fast enough so they decided DIVIDED GOVERNMENT WAS THE WAY TO GO. And here we are in the middle of that decision on the brink of an economic disaster.

      The Republican Party doesn’t know how to govern. President Obama knows how to govern and that’s one of the reasons why they hate him so much. By being good at governing, he is making government look good. They can’t have that.

      As Lawrence O’Donnell said, these freshman GOP Tea Party members don’t understand what it means to govern. In fact, they seem to have a very twisted understanding of exactly how a democracy is supposed to work. I question their understanding of the oath they took to uphold the constitution. The very fact that they need to surrender their judgment with various ideological pledges means they are not fit for office. They can’t think for themselves, they are sheep.

      I can’t imagine how the historians are going to write about this episode. The Republican Party Manufactured, Self Inflicted, Totally Unnecessary Debt Ceiling Crisis. No one could have imaged the GOP dysfunction coming to this.

  76. 256 Bobfr
    July 28, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    FAIL. FAIL. ………………………

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  77. 257 Kasai
    July 28, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    I can’t believe why they hate this President, He works tirelessly day in and day out, He prevented a depression,
    Got bin Laden,Passed a universal healthcare plan..and so many other progressive agenda.

    If this is all because he doesn’t look like other Presidents…Shame on America, Just when you think we passed that ugly chapter, I can’t for the life of me, think is something else.

    The world seen the best of America in 2008….and know the world is pretty confused:-(

    • July 29, 2011 at 5:43 am

      Race makes it more intense but it happens to every President. Ike was middle of the road Republican and the right wing hated his guts. They called the guy who was a popular 5 star general and allied commander a commie dupe. As this President has said it all comes with the job.

  78. 259 P
    July 28, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Will this come to an end???????? ****sigh****

  79. 260 Doris
    July 28, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    It’s being reported that the Bill is being postponed indefinitely. Wow.

    • 261 isonprize
      July 28, 2011 at 11:06 pm

      Doris. do you have a link? Where did you hear that?

      • 262 Doris
        July 28, 2011 at 11:09 pm

        It’s the Hill so I didn’t want to link, but it’s there. We have been laughing our heads off at OFA.

        • 263 Obama Grandmama
          July 29, 2011 at 3:11 am

          I heard on tv that the GOP is meeting at 11am tomorrow and the Dems are meeting at 10am.

      • 264 Doris
        July 28, 2011 at 11:11 pm

        Here it is. Hopefully, Chips will make an exception.

        GOP postpones debt vote

        By The Hill Staff – 07/28/11 10:33 PM ET

        House Republican leaders have postponed indefinitely a vote on Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) debt-limit bill after they could not persuade enough Republicans to support the measure.

        “No vote tonight,” the third-ranking House Republican, Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), told reporters after leaving Boehner’s office shortly before 10:30 p.m.


    • 265 P
      July 28, 2011 at 11:11 pm

      Grrrrr WTFFFFF!!!!!!!!!! This is no example of compromise……tax increases for the rich is needed!! You cannot cut social securities ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The thing that really scaring me the most is Americans in 2012 forgeting this situation Boehner and his party is putting the nation and the world under!! This Boehner plan is not good for the economy and the people!!!

      • 266 isonprize
        July 28, 2011 at 11:22 pm

        P, breathe, just breathe. Even if they wrangle the votes to get it to pass in the US House of Representative, there is no way in hell it would pass the US Senate. It’s been a total waste of time. Political theater at its worst.

        Does anyone else remember this??

        School House Rock – I’m just a bill, a little old bill, siting here on Capitol Hill

        • 267 nospin
          July 29, 2011 at 8:12 am

          this video never gets old. It IS sad, that it is still required viewing for most adults especially for the House Repubs

      • 268 Doris
        July 28, 2011 at 11:25 pm

        P, America’s won’t forget in 2012. This is rocking the nation and the world. Hang in there though, we will prevail.

        • 269 Doris
          July 28, 2011 at 11:26 pm


        • 270 P
          July 28, 2011 at 11:38 pm

          Wouldn’t you guys say this is a waste of time? The plan is not going to pass Senate so why are they wasting precious time???? The evil that must be in Boner’s heart is unbelievable….it’s just sad to know such an individual holds such a high office….RACISM to the max! Can’t believe they want an entire nation of blacks, browns and WHITES to fail because they detest a BLACK MAN being President….really really funny to me :lol:. Only God knows his wrath for these sick people….in the end his people will never suffer!!

          • 271 Doris
            July 28, 2011 at 11:45 pm

            So true. This is when we have to hold on to our faith. In God We Trust is what this nation was founded upon and that hasn’t changed. He knows what is going on and He will take care of it. I have my moments too, but my faith kicks in and it brings me through. I know you have had those experiences in your life. President Obama will be okay and serve another four years. He’s smart, strong and has a wonderful family and he has all of us. It’s going to be okay.

            • July 29, 2011 at 1:13 am

              Thank you Doris. Faith is the solid rock. We will prevail, and the President knows that also. That I truly believe. He will be fine and thus we the people will be fine over this evil and selfish foolish people. Faith will withstand a whole lot of mess. Doris, you always bring us back to the sanity that is the goodness in us as a family. We respect all and lean on the goodness in the hearts of our ToD Family. We will be fine. We have a fine man in the WH., and a very smart one at that.

        • 273 Obama Grandmama
          July 29, 2011 at 3:17 am

          You notice how the GOP are all on message saying where is the President’s plan? He doesn’t have one. They act as if it is irresponsible that he has not given them a plan when the executive branch of government signs or vetoes the bills introduced and passed in the House then passed the Senate. Congress writes the bills and legislation, not the executive. Guess we need to educate the public on that too. I wish the commentators would stop that talking point so it doesn’t take hold.

          • 274 conlakappa
            July 29, 2011 at 10:11 am

            And you notice that the MSM isn’t calling them on it? Reminiscent of a brief step-to I had with someone on the orange. He was talking about intellectual honesty and a bill/budget that the President would have with cuts. Basic civics class as well as some Latin! Legislation and legislators have the same root, don’t they?

  80. 275 P
    July 28, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    Bdw Obama looks soooo handsome in that pic angry like that… 🙂

  81. 277 hhannahh11
    July 28, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Very unrelated.. But earlier today I came across a video that I had never seen before, from the 2008 campaign when Michelle Obama met with Paula Deen:

    (hopefully the link works- I’m doing this from my iPhone and generally have trouble with this type of thing :p )

  82. 278 isonprize
    July 28, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    The Preamble to the Constitution – School House Rock style

    This is how I learned it. I think this one and the “I’m just a bill” sparked my interest in politics. I met some kids working in a Chick-fil-A near me that didn’t even understand the 3 sections of government. What the hell are we teaching our children in school???

    • 279 Dudette
      July 29, 2011 at 1:35 am

      Sad isn’t it iop? That’s exactly why I bought the School House Rock collection for my 8yr old nephew. He already knows the preamble! Nerds rule!!

  83. 280 roh108
    July 29, 2011 at 12:33 am

    The GOP is the party of absolute IDIOTS!! and FOOLS!!! and HATERS!! and DUCHE BAGS!! and JERKS!!! To Hell with ALL of them.

    • 281 P
      July 29, 2011 at 1:09 am

      I AGREE!!!! The sight of ONE BLACK man surrounded by HUNDREDS of WHITE men and women is eating them alive!! Hate…hate and more hate in these people that they are becoming wicked to their own! Thank God PBO has a strong woman who loves him unconditionally and is supporting him 100%…he takes each blow with a smile.

  84. July 29, 2011 at 1:12 am

    Please go to youtube and type in (T.I. Dead and Gone SPOOF- Barack Obama. )it is sooooooooo good. this made my night.

      • 285 P
        July 29, 2011 at 1:27 am

        When is Hollywood gonna make a movie on PBO? I’ve been dying for one since his election!!! Spike Lee should take up the task…..I am sure it will do good!

        • 286 hopefruit2
          July 29, 2011 at 9:02 am

          I’m sure there will be several movies about him – after he leaves the Presidency. The OBL hunt raid by itself is a 2-3-hr movie. The campaign and historic win is another movie. The first 4 years is a third movie…Broadway might want to cash in as well. Then numerous documentaries, and books…

          Movie, Broadway, DVD documentary, book – I’m all in!!!

          • 287 utaustinliberal
            July 29, 2011 at 10:45 am

            This song/video tells the truth. He inherited this catastrophic mess and gets NO help from the right and a lot on the left practically yell that he’s a Democrat in Name Only (DINO) and is a republican. It’s disgusting and frustrating. But thanks for this video Lisa. It shows the issue for exactly what it is.

      • July 29, 2011 at 1:52 am

        thank you lisaloveobama, I love this song

      • 289 theo67
        July 29, 2011 at 2:32 am


      • 290 nospin
        July 29, 2011 at 8:17 am

        this should go viral. It provides some much needed levity and the message is true.

    • 291 P
      July 29, 2011 at 1:20 am

      Yes it is a beautiful song…and depicts the President very well!

  85. July 29, 2011 at 1:26 am

    Goodnight TOD Family and Chips. I hope we were good today. I want to also apologize to Desertflower. My choice of word phrasing in my questions was incorrect. How was trying to find out what channel you were watching. Please forgive me. I already know that you love me, but when I saw the answer, I smiled with joy because of how you so beautifully answered me. But I could not leave tonight without saying the above. I am going to get quiet with my candles for our President, FLOTUS, Timmy, Joe, David P. Valarie, Jay, Daley, and his entire team and pray, and medidate on good thoughts as I read my new copy of ‘The Other Barack’ that just came out. Sally H. Jacobs, author. Just started, so can’t say much, but it seem to have been well researched based on some things that I know. Goodnight all, and let us keep our family covered with our kind words, our loving thoughts, and beautiful actions on this blessed site that Chipsticks works so hard on each day. Thank you Chips.

    • 293 P
      July 29, 2011 at 1:29 am

      Awwwww you’re so sweeeeeeet! Goodnight HZ :). I’m also heading off to bed my pillows are calling 🙂

    • 294 desertflower
      July 29, 2011 at 1:59 am

      Goodness sakes! You have absolutely nothing to apologize for at all! Not to worry about the question, I just wanted you to have a smile on your face:) That is all….you are a dear. Please don’t worry. I stepped away from the news, away from the computer and went to watch my son play lacrosse tonight. He was on fire! Fabulous game if I say so myself! Anyway, I feel much better now…tomorrow is another day. See you tomorrow, HZ….sleep tight.

  86. July 29, 2011 at 1:54 am

    Kasai, this is wonderful.

  87. 300 Kasai
    July 29, 2011 at 2:01 am

    Dear Lord,I ask that put love where there is hatred
    To put hope and faith where there is doubt
    To put joy where there is discord
    I ask that you guide and protect our President and his family today and always


  88. 303 theo67
    July 29, 2011 at 2:26 am

    I’m sure someone has posted this before,but I haven’t been able to keep up as often as I’d like. This “West Wing” episode shows that these tea baggers have been among us for a long time.

  89. 304 nintendowii10
    July 29, 2011 at 2:43 am


  90. July 29, 2011 at 3:24 am

    So the deadbeat Dad, Rep. Joe Walsh the Tea Party racists said he doesn’t owe his ex-wife anything. It’s all political. So who do you think the racists fool will blame? Probably the President. That’s how crazy he is.

  91. 306 57andFemale
    July 29, 2011 at 8:16 am

    LOD on Rachel’s show last night with Melissa Harris-Perry said something simple, true and terrifying: He said that Boehner had never in his life tried to get a Democratic vote.

    Think about that. A now-Speaker of the House who has no concept that you’re SUPPOSED to work to get both together. You’re supposed to get votes from both sides of the chamber. Boehner doesn’t know that. It’s unthinkable to him to do that.

    The grand bargain was never gonna happen. Boehner, currying favor from the crazies was NEVER going to get that bill through his House and would have been unwilling or psychologically unable to get Democrats on board.

    I don’t know what’s going to happen. This is as uncharted political territory as we’ve ever seen. I don’t want to sound PL and that’s not at all where I’m coming from — but we should not leave debt reduction to this Congress. We should not be making decisions that will affect millions of Americans from poor children to children going to college, to the future of Social Security and Medicare, to science investment, infrastructure building — this should not be left in their hands and their frighteningly hateful minds and their stupidity. Not now. I’m going to say something I’ve never said: the President is wrong to negotiate such vitally important issues with this Congress. There is nothing we can give them but complete capitulation. We have to put a stop to this circus.

    The country is so bruised and bloodied from this — Democrats will NOT revisit decisions made now in the next Congress if we are fortunate enough to get the House back. We ‘look forward’ and seldom go back.

    I hope Harry Reid comes out with a clean bill today. It’s time for the Senate and the President to dare the Republicans instead of it often being the other way around. We have a majority in the Senate and a Democrat in the White House. The House is more than dysfunctional — it’s dangerous.

    republican frame is “here’s our bill. If you don’t take it it’s your fault if we default.” We have to do the same. And not the Reid plan with cuts and no revenue and no time to debate, go through committee, take the time to seriously consider the effect of massive changes to the budget with these Republicans at this time in history holding a gun to our heads. I don’t think that what serious people do. Dare THEM to let the country default. Nancy Pelosi will be able to say, “I have 193 Democratic votes for a clean bill. Speaker, I dare you to pass this bill.”

    • July 29, 2011 at 8:27 am

      Wow. Imagine that. How does one get to be Speaker of the House and not even know how to reach across the isle. He should have been taking notes from Nancy Pelosi those last two years, instead of “mocking” here. This Time magazine calls him weak.


      …..That trend peaked with Nancy Pelosi, who was one of the most powerful Speakers in a generation. Members could hardly hold a press conference without her blessing, let alone win plum committee assignments or pass legislation. Boehner often mocked Pelosi for not allowing amendments, and for her use of frivolous post office naming votes to lure members to the floor where she could whip them. (See “Does the Debt Ceiling Make Deficits Worse?”)

      Though heavy handed, Pelosi’s tactics worked. She pushed through health care reform in the House after Reid lost his 60-vote super majority in the Senate. More than a few reporters who covered health care remarked how similar Thursday night’s drama was to the final health care reform vote, albeit with vastly different outcomes. Both votes could have cost the Speakers their jobs; in Pelosi’s case, for overreach, and in Boehner’s, for failing to grasp far enough. During the final push on Boehner’s debt bill this week, the Speaker did finally crack the whip, telling his conference on Wednesday to “Get your ass in line.” But it was too little too late. Boehner’s “leadership is clearly at stake,” Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican and the 2008 GOP presidential nominee, said on Thursday night.

      Boehner rode into power on the backs of his paper tiger. Last night, it had him for dinner with some hot sauce to boot.


    • 308 hopefruit2
      July 29, 2011 at 8:58 am

      Hi 57andFemale,

      You raise some very good points and I totally hear your frustration about how dangerous this situation is. But I think we need to keep in mind the fact that this process has unequivocally exposed the ineptness and rabid delusionality of a core segment of the Republican congress – the Tea Party. With the MSM (and PL) covering for and promoting these KKK reincarnates over last two years – very few, especially the low information voters who are not particularly tuned in to politics, would have understood how dangerous these people are. Had the president simply took some action, he would be blamed all around and that would have set the stage for the Republicans to successfully campaign for the 2012 presidency. Then, we would be in for a shit storm, if you think things are bad now. The President HAD to expose them and effectively remove their last trump card and talking point – that they are serious about deficits and he isn’t.

      The president had to make them share the pain of their own obstructionism and rigid ideological positions, and turn the tables back on them. So far, the Republicans have not paid a price for their bad behavior – in fact they were rewarded for it in 2010, thanks to the complicit media (including the PL fauxgressive movement). This time, the President was able to bypass the dishonest media and render the PL irrelevant during this entire process. Furthermore, despite his supposedly “slipping poll numbers” (which we would expect some), he’s still head and shoulders above the entire congress, AND the GOP candidates for 2012.

      I think the President did this not just to punish the Republicans, but also to teach the American people, Wall Street, Corporations, as well as the the GOP-enabling complicit media that when they encourage and reward Republicans’ outrageous behavior thinking that it will only hurt Barack Obama, they are thoroughly and dangerously mistaken. I believe this is a valuable lesson that many voters will take with them going into the 2012 elections. The reason that the GOP presidential candidates so far have not been very vocal on this issue, is that they are afraid to attach themselves to it, knowing fully well this toxicity might seal their fate for 2012.

      • 309 PoliticalJunkessa
        July 29, 2011 at 9:26 am

        I agree with every word, hopefruit. Additionally, the horrors that the teapublican governors elected in 2010 have created in the states will not be soon forgotten. From state legislature to governors houses to the House and the Senate — the TeaOPee has proven it doesn’t know how to govern and that it hates our form of democracy.

        • 310 hopefruit2
          July 29, 2011 at 9:33 am

          That’s right PoliticalJunkessa – I had even forgotten about the Teagovernors destroying the local state economies- thanks for pointing that out!!

          • 311 57andFemale
            July 29, 2011 at 9:54 am

            That made me insane last month with the jobs numbers — even though the numbers showed job growth in the private sector it was Republican layoffs that brought the numbers down and it barely got reported. No — it was all Obama’s fault that Republican governors imploding their governments. Un-freakin-believable.

      • 312 57andFemale
        July 29, 2011 at 9:44 am

        You’re absolutely right. Republicans have been exposed, through the deft efforts of our President. This will probably be the most important thing – showing how seriously dangerous they are. I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with the what Obama has done or how he has done it. Absolutely none. It’s been brilliant, bold (although the PL can’t see that). Had he just called them a**holes from the beginning, it just would have turned into a silly food fight. We never would have backed Republicans into the corner they are in now.

        Yesterday changed how we move forward, I think. I saw it on LOD’s face — that Republicans truly are what they seem. Boehner never took control of his freshman, kowtowed to them from the beginning instead of schooling them about how governing works. We put monsters in the House and Boehner fed them red meat.

        They will not compromise. There is nothing upon which they will compromise. I say again, Obama’s efforts up to last night were exactly the right thing to do, the adult thing to do, the leadership thing to do. And it was smart politically. Brilliant.

        They had a Boehner front loaded cuts-only to the programs that people need, and it wasn’t good enough for them AND we were supposed to do this again in 5 months. This is more than obstruction. This is insane.

        That brings us to this morning. I thought long and hard about this all night. To make decisions about the health of the safety net and programs that are vital to Americans — there is no good faith on which to negotiate with these people. The cuts are going to chill the economy anyway — how many federal workers are going to swell the unemployment rolls with nothing to balance it? I just think we need to adapt to some sobering truths on the ground. A clean bill. Harry Reid can pass it. If Republicans obstruct it, well it might be the first time some poor Social Security recipient in Kentucky comes to understand what Republicans are doing — using their minority to stop your social security check.

        yeah, yeah, the PL will whine, “I told you so” but their path wouldn’t have changed a God damned thing. This President tried to govern but he has to have responsible partners. I believe that Geithner through his contacts is completely convinced that our debt problem is going to lead us to a downgrade anyway and that is why Obama was so deadly serious about a bargain. But how do we proceed? Are we going to get tax increases from a band of loons who couldn’t accept an all-cuts deal and a way to embarrass Obama at Christmas time? That wasn’t good enough for them — how the hell are we going to get anything that’s fair or even effective?

        The economy is going to suffer if we give them their way. Desperately suffer. We take what the country has now learned about teapublicans, hammer it home every day for the next 15 months and get us some sanity back in the house before making serious changes to how our government spends money and takes care of its citizens.

        • 313 57andFemale
          July 29, 2011 at 9:51 am

          I think the only thing that can change this trajectory is Boehner — if he had a Hallelujah moment and decided to govern, knowing it would cost him his speakership but would probably make him a hero in the long run. Is that going to happen?

          When Obama spoke to the nation and Boehner followed most pundits agreed that he was talking to his base while Obama was talking to the nation. I don’t think Boehner understands that the rest of the country may think differently than he does. The only reason he wanted a deal to avoid default is because his corporate masters don’t want a default — not because he understood or cared about the consequences. He said so yesterday in no uncertain terms — he’s going to do what he wants and the default is not his problem.

          Before he became speaker I had heard that he was the laziest, dumbest man in Congress. Okay, that was before the freshmen were sworn in.

      • 314 desertflower
        July 29, 2011 at 10:51 am

        Nice job, hopefruit…i agree.

  92. 315 collegekay
    July 29, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Read an article this morning about how PBO is not getting any sleep. 😦

    This man has been put through the ringer with these incompetent fools.

    • 316 hopefruit2
      July 29, 2011 at 9:22 am

      I would be interested in knowing the source of this article.

      • 317 collegekay
        July 29, 2011 at 9:30 am


      • 318 collegekay
        July 29, 2011 at 9:32 am

        WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama is deeply involved in trying to win a debt deal and his White House was working flat out, aides said, pushing back against any impression Congress had sidelined the administration.
        “He’s getting absolutely no sleep. He’s working tirelessly, meeting with his economic team, doing a lot of outreach, exploring all kinds of possibilities for compromise,” top Obama aide Valerie Jarrett told Reuters Insider.
        White House officials have blanketed U.S. cable television in the last few days to get their message over that Republicans were harming the U.S. economy by refusing to compromise over measures to cut the deficit and lift the borrowing ceiling.
        Lawmakers must lift the country’s $14.3 trillion borrowing ceiling by an August 2 deadline to act or risk a devastating default and downgrade of its vital AAA credit rating.
        Obama Chief of Staff Bill Daley, key adviser David Plouffe and Jarrett herself have been almost constantly on air, while also reaching beyond the Beltway to regional press and radio.
        “I don’t know how you can get more actively involved,” Daley told CNN when charged that the White House has been relegated to the sidelines in the deficit debate by Congress. “I’m in constant conversations, as are many of our staff, with people on the Hill,” he said.
        Vice President Joe Biden, who led bipartisan negotiations to explore a deal, has been a key conduit to Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell, with whom he has a rapport.
        White House budget chief Jack Lew and top Obama economic aide Gene Sperling have also reinforced Obama in reaching out to Congress. Daley and Jarrett, both with business backgrounds, have been the president’s top emissaries to the business community, where concerns over the debt ceiling have grown.
        “Today they are very nervous. My phone was ringing off the hook all day long,” said Jarrett, who said she canceled several meetings just to be able to field incoming calls.
        Several press conferences and a prime-time televised address to the nation by the president from the stately East Room, plus a background briefing by senior Obama aides that went late into Friday night, have added to the controlled frenzy at the White House.
        This has translated into even longer days than normal at the White House, which already begin in the early hours of every morning as senior staff prepared for their daily 7:30 a.m. meeting in the office of the chief of staff.


        Not linking the article because of teabag comments.

        • July 29, 2011 at 9:51 am

          The president is damned if he is and damned if he is not. They whined about him letting Joe Biden meet with congress. Of course we know he was just as involved in the back. When he comes front and center, they whine about him being overexposed and jawboning folks.

          This is getting so tired. This is the same complaint they had about the health care debate. Congress in fact is supposed to pass laws and the president sign off on it. Why can’t they do their job. John Boehner needs to do his job. He is Speaker of the House.

          But folks, be assured that the president has gotten the message out that he wants out there. When he summoned us to call our representatives this week, we — millions of Americans did so. That is no small feat.

          Last night on our nightly local news, the polling question for one of the channels had to do with oil subsidies for the big companies. Sure enough people were in favor of eliminating tax breaks for them. People are beginning to listen.

          A few minutes ago, I was talking to a friend in Washington, D.C., she was worried about her 401k and complained that Congress is playing with people finances.

          President Obama works harder than even those in the so-called media. This man has been working non-stop. If it was anybody else, they would be suggesting a bust on Mount Rushmore now. But many of us know what is at work here, even if the media pretends not to know or prefers to sweep it under the rug.

        • 320 57andFemale
          July 29, 2011 at 9:57 am

          That made me crazy yesterday: “Where’s the President?” I heard from allegedly progressive pundits. Good God — if he’s out there he’s hogging the mic, if he’s not he’s AWOL. I have never seen so many upper level spokespeople from the administration as I’ve seen this week.

          No President has had to face what Obama has had to face. Never.

          • 321 Ladyhawke
            July 29, 2011 at 10:24 am

            My heart aches for him….

            “He’s getting absolutely no sleep. He’s working tirelessly, meeting with his economic team, doing a lot of outreach, exploring all kinds of possibilities for compromise,” top Obama aide Valerie Jarrett told Reuters Insider.

  93. 322 ChristiMtl
    July 29, 2011 at 9:22 am

    This I can’t wait. I miss seeing him.

    WH just announced that Pres Obama will make a statement on the debt limit stalemate at 1020AM/EDT. Live online and on cable.

  94. 325 ChristiMtl
    July 29, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Peggy Noonan

    “So he [Obama] is losing a battle in which he had superior forces—the presidency, the U.S. senate. In the process he revealed that his foes have given him too much mystique. He is not a devil, an alien, a socialist. He is a loser. And this is America, where nobody loves a loser.”

    Anyone who use twitter, please.

    Calling the President a loser is so disgusting. What a bitch.

    • July 29, 2011 at 9:57 am

      The likes of Peggy Noonan want so badly to call President the “N” word so badly, they can taste it. But that would mean losing her little spot on TV, so she goes nasty enough where she can get away with it.

      They are angered by the fact that they can’t beat this man, no matter how hard they try. She would have been elevating Boehner to upperclass statesman this morning had he managed to drag his vote through. She is angered, in the same way Mark Halperin was angered that day after the president took the Republicans to the woodshed.

      They don’t know how to criticize him without going below the belt, There is something about President Obama that drags the crazy out of these people.

      If you are on twitter, please tweet her. I have searched high and low for her e-mail address I can’t find it. I went looking at other stories to see if she had any contact information, I can’t find any.

      Noonan is enraged and the only way she knows how is to try to tear PBO down. This is their M.O. They either pass the blame or they resort to name calling. She needs to be called out.

      • 327 Fred
        July 29, 2011 at 10:31 am

        Africa you better believe Noonan wants and she and the others will get so worked up one of these days they WILL call him that.Be ready for that as my family;friends and I have been dreading that day coming since he announced his candidacy.
        It is important that WE remain cool;calm and collected and let the so-called “liberal” media tear each other up over this.

        It will happen.I feel in my heart unfortunately

      • 328 COS
        July 29, 2011 at 10:32 am

        Noonan and Pat Buchanan need to go somewhere and retire while they can, with the oz of dignity they have left. MSNBC got rid of Halpern for calling PBO the D word but they keep these old nasty relics around to continue to spew deep rooted hatred for this smart president. I detest both of them.

    • 329 57andFemale
      July 29, 2011 at 9:58 am

      God, I hate her. I remember when Bush would get up and mumble something at the podium and she would CHEER. How WONDERFUL, how artful, how brilliant.

      God — imagine if our pundits did that for Obama when he IS right, when he is brilliant.

    • July 29, 2011 at 10:30 am

      WHAT. THE. FUCK????!!!!!! is this fucking bitch for real? Why doesn’t she look inside her own party for a loser? the meme is that it’s Bonehead. I guess it would be too much to ask for truth in journalism. Peggy Noonan is a fucking liar and a twit whose best years were served drinking and carrying Reagan’s water and staring at his ass. That bitch needs to STFU and get her mangey ass gone. 😡 Bitch.

  95. 331 isonprize
    July 29, 2011 at 9:43 am

    For some reason, I’ve been in the ‘wayback machine’ lately. This one is way, way, WAY back…written by Thomas Jefferson in 1816 and engraved on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial. I found it amid the sarcasm at Wonkette.

    I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.

    Oh yeah. Good morning to my TOD family!!!

  96. 333 LYNND
    July 29, 2011 at 9:52 am

    The President is going to be on TV in about 30 minutes or so.

  97. 334 Bobfr
    July 29, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Steve Benen writes today:

    “Whether the GOP wants to admit it or not, the economy is advancing exactly as they want it to. The private sector is being left to its own devices; the public sector is shedding jobs quickly and scrapping investments; and the only permitted topic of conversation is about

    This is the script the GOP wrote. When it’s followed to the letter, Republican complaints are absurd.

    It doesn’t have to be this way. We can boost public investments. The Federal Reserve can stop worrying about inflation that doesn’t exist. We can stop pretending spending cuts can create jobs.

    We know what we should do. The country needs the wisdom and courage to do the right thing, but as of today, with the recovery faltering, the right thing isn’t even on the negotiating table.

    What is on the table is a choice between default and competing plans to take massive amounts of capital out of the economy on purpose.”

    Those facts only add to the justification for President Obama to invoke the 14th Amendment.

    With no debt ceiling as a mechanism for hostage taking, the focus will be totally on jobs and the lack of any effort by the Republicans to create them. The President and Democratic members of the House and Senate can all rightly state that they were more than willing to take a balanced approach to deficit reduction and were thwarted by an highly dangerous attempt at brinksmanship – one left unchallenged by the President would have done decades of harm to America.

    Instead, the President acted definitively to deny the hostage takers their goal by applying the Constitutional (legal) remedy of preventing a default on the Nation’s commitments – legislative commitments made both Republicans and Democrats over the past decades.

    That is a conversation well worth having with the American 24h a day from now until Election Day 2012.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  98. 336 utaustinliberal
    July 29, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Heads up guys and Chipsticks in vacation land 😉 : President Obama will be speaking at 10:20AM EDT/ 9:30AM CDT/ 7:30AM PDT in the Diplomatic Room on the debt ceiling. CNN, MSNBC, C-SPAN ONE and even FOX NEWS will carry it live. You can also watch it live on http://www.cspan.com and http://www.whitehouse.gov/live

    • 337 desertflower
      July 29, 2011 at 11:06 am

      SAw it and heard him, once again…loud and clear! Now that I seen to be on a “first name basis” with the yahoos I have been calling this past week, it won’t be hard! Hell, yesterday I even pretended to be a Teabagger to get some no votes for the “Boner Bill” which is exactly what I called it!

  99. 338 isonprize
    July 29, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Here ls the CNN live link, incase the White House link doesn’t work. (which, for some reason, it NEVER does for me.)


  100. 339 nintendowii10
    July 29, 2011 at 10:37 am

    PBO calling out the Bonehead plan!!!!

  101. 341 isonprize
    July 29, 2011 at 10:37 am

    He’s on!! 10:37am

  102. 342 nintendowii10
    July 29, 2011 at 10:39 am

    PBO calls for bipartisanship and wants the debt ceiling raised by Tuesday!!!

    You go sir!!!!

    • 343 Fred
      July 29, 2011 at 10:42 am

      he is calling on US to continue to put pressure on Congress and I am so fucking happy he said “time to put Party aside”

      • 344 nintendowii10
        July 29, 2011 at 10:45 am

        It’s too bad the Teapugs only care about party. They think that if they keep the political nonsense up that they’ll be able to get away with blaming PBO, but most of the nation already sees through their BS!

  103. July 29, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Drama and intrigue——fricking bastards. I supremely dislike the repugs in the House of Dysfunction. It’s like the patients have taken over the psych ward. bastards. 😕

    • July 29, 2011 at 10:45 am

      Okay, guys. Back to the drawing board. Let’s go call our congress critters.

    • 347 desertflower
      July 29, 2011 at 11:12 am

      Correction: It’s not “like they’ve taken over the psych ward” THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER THE PSYCH WARD!” Worse, they have NO IDEA what they’re talking about, they have NO idea that compromise is what they SHOULD be doing, nor to they care to do that, they START from a false premise, that raising the debt ceiling means the ability to SPEND MORE MONEY, and not PAY THE BILLS WE’VE ALREADY INCURRED! When you have no nothings, operating from a false premise, out to inflict massive damage to prove a point from a wrong standpoint, and one that this the TOTAL OPPOSITE of what we SHOULD be doing…this is where we end up! They are FUCKING NUTS! I can’t say that any nicer, I do apologize to anyone that is offended by language, but that the clean version.

  104. 348 nospin
    July 29, 2011 at 10:44 am

    PO said, he asked the American people to get involved and they did. Now he says, “keep it up”.

    Call your congressmen and women, email, Tweet but keep it up. Get your voices heard that you expect them to resolve in a bipartisan way and to get it done.

    Keep it up TOD

  105. 349 collegekay
    July 29, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Our AAA credit rating doesn’t match our AAA political system. TRUTH.

  106. 352 isonprize
    July 29, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Pres. Obama “Keep it up!” Keep those calls, those email, those tweets coming, baby! It’s on!!

    Is it trite to say that I LOVE THE WAY THAT MAN WALKS?? 8) 8) He finishes, and he rolls out! I know he didn’t slam the door, but it looked like even the door shook when he walked past. 😆 😆

    • 353 Dakota
      July 29, 2011 at 10:50 am

      I love the way he walks too! So smooth!!! I’ve mentioned before that it reminds me of Sidney Portier’s walk back in the day!

  107. 354 Me4obama
    July 29, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Guys keep up the Pressure. Let’s crash the damn system.

  108. 356 nintendowii10
    July 29, 2011 at 10:49 am

    I’m so angry at liberals and the left right now. Because of them being angered over right wing conservadems in the House, we have a House full of Teapugs holding the debt ceiling hostage.

    I’m not a huge fan of the Democrats either, but they wouldn’t be holding the debt limit hostage if they still had the House. Unlike (Speaker) Bonehead, Speaker Pelosi would have gotten Democrats to fall in line and raise the debt ceiling. But because the fucking liberals didn’t get their radical candyland with ponies and rainbows, the Teapugs now hold the keys to the debt ceiling and we have to endure all of this drama. And they have the NERVE to continue to accuse PBO of caving/selling out/bending over to Teapugs etc etc etc. The liberal left needs a HUGE CAN OF STFU!!!! THEY DON’T KNOW SHIT!!!!

    • July 29, 2011 at 10:52 am

      Amen. Couldn’t have said it better.

      • July 29, 2011 at 11:04 am

        I agree with you nintendowii10. And I went to Ed Schultz website and I told him that very thing. I ask him was he satisfied. I said that if everyone had got out to vote in 2010, our country would not be held hostage right now by those crazy radical Tea Party

    • 359 nintendowii10
      July 29, 2011 at 10:56 am

      And to add onto my rant, why do the liberal left continue to act as if they OWN PBO and can dictate what he does? Most of them are saying he should do things that Bush did, things that they were vehemently against when Bush did them. In other words, they want Obama to act like a complete jerk, break the Constitution and be a “lefty Bush,” even though they keep saying that Obama is “worse than Bush” which makes no damned sense! PBO isn’t the liberal left’s slave and he doesn’t need to do a damned thing that they keep yelling at him to do… where were the liberal left under Clinton when he was negotiating the store and tinkering with Medicare and SS?

      Done with my rant, for now 🙂

      • 360 isonprize
        July 29, 2011 at 11:05 am

        Nintendo. take your rant to the phones, too. Call, tweet, email your congress critters. . LET’S DO THIS!!!!

        “Nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices calling for change.”
        — Barack Obama

      • July 29, 2011 at 11:30 am

        Ignore them at this hour. Let’s go contact those intrasigent Republicans.

        The left have taken loss of their senses. Right now, Conyers, for example, instead of blaming Republicans for cuts to Medicare, SS, etc., is blaming PBO.

        I understand your frustrations, Nin. We have to do what president is calling on us to do. Tomorrow, we deal with the frustratis.

        Keep the faith.

    • 362 kefauver
      July 29, 2011 at 12:00 pm

      Preach it, brother! John Conyers can fuck off! Looks like he wants to be another Kucinich. And the PL can take a flying leap off a cliff following Jane Hamsher and Friends. Every time I read one of those ass-holes claiming “Just because the other party is worse does not mean I’m obligated to vote for Democrats,” I think “How do you like what you’ve sewn, douchebags?!”

      I am calling Ben Chandler, Mitch McConnell, and Rand Paul today and giving all three an earful. Pass a clean debt ceiling bill and stop fucking with Americans’ lives!

  109. 363 Me4obama
    July 29, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Guys I think this man has something in his pocket he will unveil to the nation come Tuesday night. Did you see how calm he was. I didn’t see any panic in his voice so we are in good hands people.

    • 364 nintendowii10
      July 29, 2011 at 10:57 am

      From what I gather through his mannerisms, he’s going to pull a rabbit out the hat, just like with the pending government shutdown earlier this year. This man doesn’t play around.

      • 365 desertflower
        July 29, 2011 at 11:17 am

        I think they have ALL pissed him off….where’s that video of him talking about what happens when he gets pissed? “I will CRUSH THEM!”

  110. 366 LYNND
    July 29, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Back to the phones. See Ya later!

  111. July 29, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Everyone, as we answer PBO’s call to contact our representatives, can we add what we call back home a “dash,” please?

    After tweeting, facebooking or calling your Rep., can you do the same honors to Peggy Noonan, (with whatever contact information you have for her) please by tweeting, calling, facebooking or e-mailing her for calling our president a “loser.”

    And if anyone knows her e-mail address, may I please have it?


  112. 370 desertflower
    July 29, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Forget that…they were pulling numbers from R’s that had always voted that way in the past…you know, when GWB WAS PRESIDENT!

  113. 371 desertflower
    July 29, 2011 at 11:41 am

    You just CAN NOT make this stuff up! http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/07/flake_flips.php?ref=fpblg It’s getting WORSE!! ARIZONA PEOPLE…..this guy wants to be a SENATOR!!!

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