23
Jul
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another lost saturday….

President Obama meets with House Speaker John Boehner in the Cabinet Room of the White House, Saturday, July 23

White House statement: The President and Vice President met with Speaker Boehner, Leader Pelosi, Leader Reid and Leader McConnell in the Cabinet Room to discuss options for ensuring that the debt ceiling is raised and the United States does not default on its obligations for the first time in its history.

The President restated his opposition to a short-term extension of the debt ceiling, explaining that a short-term extension could cause our country’s credit rating to be downgraded, causing harm to our economy and causing every American to pay higher credit cards rates and more for home and car loans.

As the current situation makes clear, it would be irresponsible to put our country and economy at risk again in just a few short months with another battle over raising the debt ceiling. Congress should refrain from playing reckless political games with our economy. Instead, it should be responsible and do its job, avoiding default and cutting the deficit. The meeting lasted approximately one hour. The leaders agreed to return to Capitol Hill to talk to their members and discuss a way forward, and conversations will continue throughout the day.


83 Responses to “another lost saturday….”


  1. 1 Fred
    July 23, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    excuse my french but fack all Teahadists

  2. 2 Doris
    July 23, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Harry Reid’s face says it all.

  3. 3 utaustinliberal
    July 23, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Ahhhhhhh… fuck it. Back to the negotiation table.

  4. July 23, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    PBO is so disappointed. People who still claim that he was just playing, should get a clue. This man does not pretend. He wanted that big deal. He looks heartbroken by how terrible these Republicans are. It goes against everything he believes in – always give others the benefit of the doubt, don’t assume the worst of people, believe their decency. None of that is justified with these people. How sad.

    • 5 utaustinliberal
      July 23, 2011 at 3:47 pm

      You’re absloutely right. His face says a thousand words and it’s of how disappointed he is at the crap “leadership and caucus” he has to work with from the other side of the aisle.

      • 6 ChristiMtl
        July 23, 2011 at 4:03 pm

        The big deal would remove their talking points for good and they know it, that’s why they’ll never go for it.

        We can’t do s*** because we’re broke, the out of control spending,

        You want cuts, I’ll give you cuts.

        Of course they don’t want that.

    • 7 nathkatun7
      July 24, 2011 at 3:35 am

      Absolutely spot-on BWD! I never bought into the LO meme. President Obama is about solving real problems and not playing political games. I really admire the courage of this president. He knew he would catch tremendous flak from Democrats. But, he was ready to risk that, and may be even his re-election, in order to do the right thing for the long term health of the economy. President Obama is a serious man who understands the difference between governing a diverse country and partisan politicking. unfortunately, he has to deal people with small minds who are more fearful of offending Norquist, Limbaugh and the teabggers, than they are of trying to prevent economic catastrophe.

  5. 8 Dee
    July 23, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Where is Cantor and McConnell?

    • 9 utaustinliberal
      July 23, 2011 at 3:59 pm

      McConnell is seated next to VP Biden. But he isn’t pictured. Cantor wasn’t invited to the talks because I think POTUS is tired of dealing with a fucktard of a tantrum throwing petulant child.

  6. 10 HZ
    July 23, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Yes, I concur with your Blackwaterdog. It does go against everything that is the core of President Obama’s being. We have seen him act in a fair and honest way with the American people. The story is on Speaker Boehner’s face. He knows that the President does not respect a man of weakness who is willing to allow a few people in his caucus to derail the people of this nation because of deep idealogical points that will destroy our nation. They will allow their hate of this President to continue to disrupt the lives of the middleclass people who are hurting in our country, and that is sad. I think I see forgiveness on President Obama’s face, and disappointment in his heart for a spineless person who calls himself a leader. Sad and shameful on the Republicans and the no-show Dems.

    • 11 Audrey
      July 23, 2011 at 6:42 pm

      John Boehner has that sheepish look that screams sorry I’m such a coward, I couldn’t stand up to my caucus. They threatenend to take my monstrous gavel away! That bastard Eric Cantor wants my gavel badly and I’m not letting him near it! It’s mine!

  7. 12 GGail
    July 23, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Was Boehner the only Repug in the room?

  8. July 23, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    The only silver lining in this whole debacle is that Americans are truly seeing the consequences of their actions and non-actions. It’s time to wake up. We get the government we deserve. Unfortunately, we’re all along for this ridiculous ride.

    POTUS looks pissed and exasperated.

  9. 16 bonkers
    July 23, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    Here’s a guy at 47, who came from no privilege or connections, and becomes the first melanin-enhanced President in American history when even many Liberals didn’t think the country was ready for that yet. Took down the Clinton/DLC machine. Embarrasses entrenched and corrupt McCain and neuters circus sideshow Sayrah Paylin to win in an historic landslide, all the while facing an incredibly hostile MegaMedia and their INCESSANT pounding of fabrications designed to bring him down into the American public discourse (William Ayers, Rev. Wright, all things muslim-y, you know the rest…).

    In his first 2 years, when a good 7-9 members of his own Party were literally stopping almost everything he wanted to get through the Senate, he still becomes the most Liberal President in many decades, and a strong objective analysis can be made, since FDR. He’s continued fostering monumental changes (DADT, DOMA, etc.) even with these Repugs in control of the House. And all this time, he’s been good-natured, positive, and hopeful through it all.

    Now. He’s. Pissed. I would not want to be Weeper Boner or any Repug who chooses to play this game. Remember, the one photo he had over his desk for years was Muhammed Ali standing over Sonny Liston. I think President Barack Hussein is about to unveil a knock-out punch like we’ve never seen before. We would all do well to study hard and learn. It’s going to be a thing of beauty.

    • 17 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      July 23, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      Great synopsis bonkers. I so much want what you are saying to be true. I guess we have until Aug. 2nd to see if your prognostication of a FINAL PBO blow comes or not. I’m waiting with popcorn and juice in hand. 🙂

    • 22 lmrj
      July 23, 2011 at 5:40 pm

      Believe you’re right Bonkers. PBO always has his eye on the end game and he’s expert at focus. Always has multiple ways of getting things done. Have watched this whole thing intently, but I’ve never been nervous about the outcome. Trust in God and trust PBO.

    • 24 nathkatun7
      July 24, 2011 at 3:56 am

      Great analysis, bonkers! I know I am a minority on this, but I really take issues with FDR being described as the most liberal President. Granted his New Deal economic Programs were quite impressive, especially those that ushered in major long term structural changes , like SS, FDIC, and others. But when it came to issues of human rights and social justice, FDR was not that liberal. His record in these areas is abysmal. He sent thousands of innocent Japanese to detention camps without trial; he refused to vigorously support an anti-lynching bill; and it took a threatened March on Washington, by A Philip Randolph, before he agreed to end job discrimination in defense industries. Let us also not forget that he presided over a racially segregated military.

  10. 25 GGail
    July 23, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Associated Press article:
    Jul 23, 2:37 PM EDT
    McConnell: Congress committed to prevent default
    By CHARLES BABINGTON
    Associated Press

    AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama met for less than an hour Saturday with congressional leaders in debt crisis talks, and a leading Republican said afterward that top lawmakers were “committed to working on new legislation” to cut federal spending and avert an unprecedented U.S. default.There were no immediate signs of a breakthrough, however. The lawmakers and Obama were unsmiling as the meeting began, and most of them avoided reporters when they left the White House.In a statement released afterward, the White House said, “Congress should refrain from playing reckless political games with our economy. Instead, it should be responsible and do its job, avoiding default and cutting the deficit.” The statement renewed Obama’s insistence that any agreement tide the government over until after the 2012 elections, to avoid a rerun of the debt dispute in the heat of the campaign.
    Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell issued a somewhat more upbeat statement of his own.
    “The president wanted to know that there was a plan for preventing national default,” he said. “The bipartisan leadership in Congress is committed to working on new legislation that will prevent default while substantially reducing Washington spending.”
    House Speaker John Boehner also pledged to work for a bipartisan solution.
    “As I said last night, over this weekend Congress will forge a responsible path forward,” he said in a statement. “House and Senate leaders will be working to find a bipartisan solution to significantly reduce Washington spending and preserve the full faith and credit of the United States.”
    The meeting followed a collapse in negotiations late Friday, when Boehner announced he was breaking off talks with the president. A visibly irritated Obama summoned Boehner and three other top congressional leaders from both parties to convene Saturday and try again to find a way to raise the debt limit before an Aug. 2 deadline cuts off the government’s borrowing authority.
    The president was flanked at the bargaining table by Boehner and Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada. Also at the table were Vice President Joe Biden, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and McConnell, R-Ky.
    The president devoted his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday to the impasse and urged Republicans to make a deal. “We can come together for the good of the country and reach a compromise. We can strengthen our economy and leave for our children a more secure future,” the president said. “Or we can issue insults and demands and ultimatums at each another, withdraw to our partisan corners and achieve nothing.”
    Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas said in his party’s weekly address that the Democrats were to blame. “If we’re going to avoid any type of default and downgrade – if we’re going to resume job creation in America – the president and his allies need to listen to the people and work with Republicans to cut up the credit cards once and for all,” he said.
    Boehner and McConnell also criticized Obama and the Democrats before the Saturday meeting began. “If the White House won’t get serious, we will,” Boehner’s office said. A statement from the office noted that Obama has said he wants an agreement that will take care of the problem through the November 2012 elections.
    “It would be terribly unfortunate if the president was willing to veto a debt limit increase simply because its timing would not be ideal for his re-election campaign,” according to Boehner’s office. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee used the troubled talks to raise money with online appeals. An email from the group said that “after hard negotiating for two weeks” Boehner and other top GOP officials “irresponsibly just walked out of the room and quit talks with the White House.” The group said it was “launching a hard-hitting advertising campaign starting this weekend and continuing through August to hold Republicans accountable,” but it gave no details.
    At a news conference Friday after Boehner said he was withdrawing, Obama told reporters, “We have run out of time and they are going to have to explain to me how it is that we are going to avoid default. Boehner accepted the invitation for Saturday’s meeting even while arguing that Obama bore the blame for the collapse. The political theater played out even as the deadline neared. Barring action by then, the Treasury will be unable to pay its bills. That could cause interest rates to rise, threaten the U.S. economic recovery and send shock waves around the globe. The deadline pressure hasn’t seemed to bring the parties closer, even though they all insist they do not want a default. For the first time since talks began, Obama declined to offer assurances that a default would be avoided, although moments later he said he was confident of that outcome. Obama said Boehner left a deal on the table that was better for Republicans than for Democrats, with $2.6 trillion in cuts outweighing new tax revenue of $1.2 trillion. The president said he was losing confidence that the underlying deficit problems would be dealt with even if the borrowing limit rose.
    “I’ve been left at the altar now a couple of times,” Obama said.
    Still, aides on both sides said there was agreement on gradually raising the age of eligibility of Medicare from 65 to 67 for future beneficiaries, and slowing the increase in cost-of-living raises in Social Security checks. Republican aides said Obama had upped his demand for higher taxes during the week. The aides said administration officials had tacitly agreed to $800 billion in new revenue over 10 years but that the White House backed away and wanted $400 billion more. Aides said the two sides were not able to bridge their differences over the triggers designed to force Congress to enact both tax changes and cuts to Medicare and other benefit programs by early next year. Both sides also were apart on the size of cuts for Medicaid, the health care program for the poor and disabled.
    Yet aides on both sides said the negotiations had yielded agreement for cuts of $250 billion from Medicare.

    Associated Press writers Erica Werner, David Espo, Ben Feller and Jim Kuhnhenn contributed to this report.

    • 26 Dee
      July 23, 2011 at 5:23 pm

      Another report based on congressinal aides. Who are these aides? I hate when the news media does this. This is how the last rumor got started.

    • 27 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      July 23, 2011 at 6:22 pm

      Boy this article is slanted to the RIGHT big time. Where is the journalistic integrity in our MSM?

      • 28 dotster
        July 23, 2011 at 6:49 pm

        AP is always slanted right.

        • 29 Audrey
          July 23, 2011 at 6:57 pm

          The Associated Press (AP) head is a former Republican strategist/adviser and now fundraiser! He took over at AP in 2008, how timel

          • 30 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
            July 23, 2011 at 8:47 pm

            Thanks guys that explains a lot. It is amazing PBO is even in the ballpark for re-election seeings how practically the entire print, internet, tv, radio MSM is entirely RIGHTWING. What PBO has been accomplishing with amount of resistance and obstruction and unfavorable media attention is AMAZING!! Obama/Biden 2012!!

  11. July 23, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    I’m cracking up at the look on Obama’s face in the pic before the article.

    • 32 LYNND
      July 23, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      LOL!!! Me too, you just he wants to say motherf****ers. That’s what I’ve been saying all week.

  12. 33 lmrj
    July 23, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    Don’t know if I should link it, but now the non-elected unconstitutional teapublican pledge idol has chimed in per TPMDC. Guess PBO calling him out during the presser was not the attention he was seeking. He thinks McConnell-Reid Better Than Default”? smh….

  13. 34 halo.
    July 23, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    Harry doesn’t look happy!

    • July 23, 2011 at 5:15 pm

      None of them look happy, because they shouldn’t be going through this crap. The debt ceiling should have been raised weeks ago, if it wasn’t for Boehner and those radical idiots in that GOP Party.

  14. July 23, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    In that third picture the President looks like he could be thinking I could be spending time with my family, or playing golf instead of sitting here with this sorry ass cry baby Boehner.

    • 37 EDP4BHO
      July 23, 2011 at 5:18 pm

      To my eyes he’s saying……”you fake-ass tan mofo, I’d kick yo behind if I could get away with it” 😀

  15. July 23, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Reid looks pissed off, and who could blame him being he has to deal with these stupid mofos.

  16. 39 DTTM
    July 23, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    I have been doing my part today, fighting back on Benen’s blog. One poster said PBO had dismantled OFA upon election. I corrected the record on that, but then another countered, “…so what? he raised money but has destroyed the “progressive brand”.

    I wrote this response:

    OK, so Obama has created such damage that it will take ten years to recover. He has temporarily destroyed the Democratic Party by capitulating over and over again. I think that is your point. Which I honestly respect, by the way.

    But first, re-read Steve’s post. Makes sense to me.

    Then think how close we came to having NO domestically owned auto industry. That is not the case any more, thanks ONLY to Democrats and the President.

    Then look at the Senate and the use of the filibuster in an unprecedented way to block even the most benign appointment or legislation.

    Mad about Gitmo? Check out the last Senate vote to use funds to close…AYE-0 NAY-99.

    Mad about the public option? Write Joe Lieberman, or Ben Nelson, or Mary Landrieu.

    Mad about global warming? Write Jay Rockefeller, Claire McCaskill, or Maddow’s favorite progressive, Sherrod Brown. Any sane energy policy must focus on a main culprit: the burning of coal.

    Got 60 on this list?

    No. So what you do? Yell at these senators? Threaten them? They represent their constituents, which includes big money and easily mislead voters who usually could give two shits about politics.

    They want power and they will do anything to keep it.

    And then Keith, pretend you are President using that “bully pulpit”. For half of the population you damn well better be a white Christian with an undisputed birth certificate, or the head of the Republican Party, Rush Limbaugh will impolitely advise that you take up another career.

  17. 43 dotster
    July 23, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Just heard they’re meeting again now. Hopefully, there’s a breakthrough of sorts. Doubt it tho. As President Obama noted last night, the Repubs won’t say yes to anything. Now they’re fighting about not extending debt increase thru 2013 as Obama requested.

  18. 46 busbus
    July 23, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Raising the debt ceiling should not have had cuts related to it in the first place. Period! The Republican/Tea Party created this monster in the guise of “getting our fiscal house in order!” Please! If they have the guts to do it, PASS A CLEAN BILL and deal with the cuts at another time.

    I personally don’t like any cuts that have been presented and I really don’t want the Big 3 touched. As far as closing the tax loopholes for the uber rich, the oil industry and corporations, this is fair, in my opinion. Women, children, the poor, the disabled, the working class and the middle class are sacrificing with the cuts; therefore, the uber rich, the oil industry and corporations should sacrifice on their end. So let’s end it now, produce a clean bill and raise the debt ceiling through 2013!

    I think that the rating agencies will force us to make cuts to keep our triple A rating. However, I feel that these cuts, individually, should be made transparent and the parties who issued the cuts should explain (aside from scaling back our spending) what warrants the cut, what group or groups it will impact and how much it will save on our spending. The Republican/Tea Party has not been asked to identify and/or explain ANY OF THEIR CUTS, except to say that “We have cut programs “to reduce our out of control spending.” This tells us NOTHING and does not put a face on the individual cut(s).

    I think that I have heard and read that many economists have said that THERE SHOULD BE NO CUTS OF PROGRAMS WHEN AN ECONOMY IS FRAGILE.

    • 47 Dee
      July 23, 2011 at 5:45 pm

      The cuts are in out-years.

      • 48 utaustinliberal
        July 23, 2011 at 6:07 pm

        Hey busbus, I’m going to have to disagree with you on the big 3 (SS, Medicare and Medicaid) being sacred cows. When people refer to the reform that needs to happen to the big 3 as cuts, they miss the point. What President Obama is doing is not cutting benefits or cutting services provided by the big 3, he is merely strenghtening them. Let’s face it Medicare at most only has 5 years of sustainability and then it’s kaput. If there is no reform made to Medicare in the form of cutting wasteful spending, cutting providers who bilk the system and cutting middle men at every corner then Medicare will begin hemorrhaging and we’ll be spending ridiculous amounts of money to keep the program barely afloat. There has to be reform to the big 3 because for one more people are living longer and therefore are collecting SS for a longer period and receiving Medicare benefits longer than anticipated. The age of retirement and medicare eligibility might have to be raised from 65 to 67 for future beneificiaries, because when ACA ( Health Reform or our wonderful Obama Care) kicks in, everyone will be covered, and can work longer without only an eye to qualifying for Medicare. Let’s face it, if you’re a progressive or have democratic leanings, you should want very much for our fiscal house to be in order so we’re not constantly plugging leaks when we could be spending our time on making our country once again a leader in education, research and development, technological advances, medical research and so many other areas.

        • 49 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          July 23, 2011 at 6:35 pm

          Wow!! utaust. This post couldn’t have been any better than from PBO’s mouth himself. Excellent. I couldn’t agree with your pragmatic approach to this issue any more blatantly. KUDOS!!

        • July 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm

          You seriously take my breath away UT! I am telling you, perhaps you ought to keep the prospect of going into politics at the back of your mind. You would be truly awesome! 🙂

        • July 23, 2011 at 8:01 pm

          Thank you utaustinliberal for speaking the truth. I agree with you totally.

          • 52 HZ
            July 23, 2011 at 8:34 pm

            Thanks UTaustinliberal, that is perfect. There is an opening at the WH for you. Really, that is just the plain truth that you so beautifully explained.

        • 53 isonprize
          July 23, 2011 at 8:43 pm

          UT, Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap!! I am giving you a STANDING OVATION!!! 😀 😀 😀

          Here my personal example of STRENTHENING Medicaid. (I know this to be true because I live it!!!)

          My son, who has disabilities, is a recipient of Medicaid. I can tell you, there are providers who LEGALLY get over like fat rats. The easiest example to site is residential treatment facilities (RTFs)

          Let’s say my son has a 5 day stay, So, let’s say I put him in the school bus Monday at 8. Since he attends school, the RTF will transport him back and forth after that. You agree that a day is 24 hours, right? So when do you think I should get him back?

          If you said Saturday morning at 8, you’d be wrong. Try Friday afternoon, when I get him off the bus.

          In that example. The provider bills in 24 hours units, So they get paid 5 x 24 = 120 hours. But for those five days, my son was only in their care for 64 hours. How did I arrive at that, you ask? Take out 8 hours for school and bus ride 24 – 8 = 16. I have to pick him up on Friday, that’s 4 days. 4 x 16 hours = 64 hours.

          I’d LOVE to get paid 120 hours for 64 hours of work.

          Now that problem could be easily solved by changing the BILLING UNITS from 24 hours to 8 hours. (just like most work shifts are 8 hours, 3 shifts per day) It wouldn’t create any cut in benefits. It wouldn’t disturb any staffing levels, and it WOULD save TONS OF MONEY when multiplied over the thousands of people with disabilities who require residential treatment.

          Those are the kind so “cuts” I support in Medicaid. But I also support closing the tax loopholes for Richie Rich and jet-owning friends.

          • 55 GGail
            July 23, 2011 at 9:27 pm

            isonprize, the HCR program has a “Meaningful Use” provision in it that all organizations receiving Medicare/Medicaid payments will have to have an Electronic Medical Record software program that accurately details all hours, procedures, medications, diagnostic treatments a patient or recipient receives. It is now slowly being implemented that all medical facilities upgrade their computer systems to the new Electronic Medical Record (EMRs or EHRs). Once it is up and running in all medical facilities, pharmacies, etc., waste and cuts will drastically be reduced. CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!

            • 56 isonprize
              July 23, 2011 at 11:21 pm

              GG, Yes, I’m aware of the EMR and meaningful use clause. And it’s a good and great thing. If the “meaningful use” clause also addresses these sort of provider billing issues, I’m WITH IT!! The providers, however, have lots and lots and LOTS of lobbyists pushing their interests.

              Like Pres. Obama said, we don’t have lobbyists. And we, in the disability community, know we are getting a raw deal. I’ll go even further, we are getting screwed, without so much as a peck on the cheek.

        • July 23, 2011 at 8:51 pm

          I don’t want the big three touch is what I have been reading from alot of people. I wish I could send them this writing of utaustinliberal, I think it would explain alot to those who are always talking about they don’t want the big three touch.

          • 58 Tally
            July 23, 2011 at 9:49 pm

            You nailed it anniebella! Let’s do it.

            I just cut/pasted it to a sticky – and added> And get rid of the contribution cap so that EVERYONE pays the same % of earnings including everyone who makes over $106k. (The fact NOT ONE DEM is screaming that from the rooftops makes me want to pull out my hair!!!)

            And like UTA said – as long as ACA isn’t repealed, (and they’e spending BILLIONS to repeal it), raising the Medicare age to 67 won’t matter a damn. Hell, it won’t matter if they raise it to 103 – because eventually it’s all going to morph into Single Payer anyway (which is WHY the way Obama did HCR was so fucking BRILLIANT!) 😀 😀 😀

        • 59 busbus
          July 24, 2011 at 1:54 am

          You make a good argument. In fact, much of your argument in regards to the Big 3, I use quite often. Unfortunately, what I wrote is something that should be challenged because I left out – “…unless a scalpel is used to rid these programs of duplicity, fraud, waste and abuse.” Yes, the Big 3 should be “touched” for these reasons. They should be “touched” to strengthen them. And they should be “touched” to insure that they will be available for future recipients. This being said, I do have a problem with all of these cuts being attached to raising the debt ceiling. I know that we have to streamline; but, for me, the debt ceiling and cuts are two separate issues. One addresses past spending obligations and the other addresses future spending.

          I trust President Obama and his economic advisers. Therefore, I am certain that they used a scalpel to find savings in these programs before he put “everything” on the table. I have never been concerned about the Big 3 being on the table. So, please accept my apology for causing you to think that you had to explain “certain facts” to me. I don’t trust the media or the Republican/Tea Party; therefore, I do not want them to have any fodder to use to spin with speculations and misleading accusations to further their goals.

          By the way, I am an Independent who changed to a Democrat in order to vote for Senator Barack Obama in the 2008 Primaries. I wanted to do my part to help him to win the nomination. Besides multiple donations to his campaign, I also served as a volunteer in the campaign. I will continue to support him in his 2012 reelection bid and will do all that I can to help with his reelection. However, I prefer the status of being an Independent even though I lean towards the left.

          Lastly, in my opinion, being other than a progressive or having democratic leanings does not negate a person wanting our fiscal house to be in order. Nor does it negate the person wanting leaks to be plugged. Nor does it negate a person wanting our country to regain its leader status in education, research and development, technological advances and medical research.

          • 60 busbus
            July 24, 2011 at 2:02 am

            I had clicked the Reply to utaustinliberal’s reply to my comment. However, it came here.

            Going back and noting some comments, I see that I stepped on a lot of toes with my, “Don’t touch the Big 3.” Sorry about that!

    • 61 vero804
      July 23, 2011 at 5:57 pm

      You pretty much sum up my thoughts on all of this.

  19. July 23, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Dang. Boehner looks like he was up all night drinking, picked himself up off the floor and came to the meeting. PBO looks like he’s really had enough of the Rs nonsense. And whittle Eric was not invited. Douche.

    • 63 isonprize
      July 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm

      Why was Can’t or invited in the first place? Seriously, why?

      • 64 utaustinliberal
        July 23, 2011 at 9:19 pm

        I believe Eric Cantor wasn’t invited because John Boehner is Speaker of the house and therefore the de facto leader of the house republican caucus. Nancy Pelosi is the Minority Leader and the de facto leader of the house democratic caucus. Mitch McConnell is the Minority Leader and the de facto leader of the senate republican caucus and Harry Reid is the Majority Leader and the de facto leader of the senate democratic caucus. So these are the people who are really pertinent to the debate and are the ones who can speak to their respective caucuses when a deal has been reached and hopefully garner the votes needed to raise the debt ceiling.

        ps: I also believe President Obama was tired of dealing with a fucktard of a tantrum throwing petulant child that is Eric Cantor.

        • 65 isonprize
          July 23, 2011 at 11:24 pm

          UT, I get that. Don’t you just KNOW Pres. Obama wanted to smack him?? 😉

          What I meant was… Why was Can’tor at the other earlier meetings? In other words, why was he EVER at the table to begin with?

  20. 66 dotster
    July 23, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    I read that Pres. Obama tried to break the ice at what was described as a “tense” atmosphere at the mtg. this a.m., saying that it was too hot for golf—-103 there in D.C.—–meaning—-so here we are at this next best thing, ha ha ha. Read that Boehner responded with a non-sequitor, saying “Yeah, I walked over there this morning”—–whatever that meant. Maybe he was still under last night’s influence, whiskey wise.

  21. July 23, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    In the last minute of PBO presser when he’s excoriating those for cow-towing to radios talk show hosts, well just the day before Boehner went on Rush’s show and was graveling to rush when denying that he had made a deal with POTUS.

  22. 68 Ladyhawke
    July 23, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Well, isn’t this special. Speaker Boehner wants a deal by Sunday afternoon so as not to spook the Asian markets. I wonder if he now sees that walking out on the negotiations ON FRIDAY was probably not a good idea. The Republican Party manufactured this crisis and now they are stuck with the repercussions. They can’t unring the bell. Their reckless behavior and rigid ideology is threatening the United States and global economies. I don’t know how anyone in their right mind would want to ever vote for a Republican again.

    Boehner Said to Tell Republicans Positive Signal Needed for Asian Markets

    House Speaker John Boehner told Republican lawmakers they need to provide a positive signal on a plan to avert a U.S. default before Asian financial markets open tomorrow, Republican congressional aides said.

    Boehner wants at least $3 trillion in cuts in a two-step plan to accompany an increase in the U.S. debt limit, one of the aides said. Concern about Asian markets’ reaction to the collapse of talks on a long-term deficit plan between Boehner and President Barack Obama was a subject in a meeting today among the president and congressional leaders, the aides said.

    The markets could be tumultuous if a plan isn’t negotiated over the weekend, said Christian Cooper, head of U.S. dollar derivatives trading in New York at Jefferies & Co.

    “The markets will be under very real pressure at the open because the assumption will be there is really no resolution to this,” Cooper said. “The breakdown in negotiations has crossed the line from the political posturing of the last few weeks to potentially a very real crisis.

    “The Tea Party is effectively playing Russian roulette with the bond market and they will, with certainty, lose,” Cooper said. Jefferies is one of 20 primary dealers that trade with the U.S. Federal Reserve.

    Boehner’s office said congressional leaders would meet at his office at 5:30 p.m. today.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-22/obama-says-republicans-walking-away-from-fair-deal-in-debt-ceiling-talks.html

    • 69 lmrj
      July 23, 2011 at 6:24 pm

      How are the teapublicans going to meet by 5:30? Didn’t the problem children leave town?

    • 71 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      July 23, 2011 at 6:40 pm

      You are so correct ladyhawk. Unfortunately RACISM makes folks do some very inexecusable things, so expect 40%-45% of the voting public to vote Rethug again in the next general election. It is almost a given. 😦 We have to work toward turning out our base and swaying independents to our side. Time will tell. KEEP HOPE ALIVE!! OBAMA/BIDEN 2010!!

    • 74 GGail
      July 23, 2011 at 6:47 pm

      Something tells me that the emails, calls and tweets got through to Boehner and company. See people, we DO make a difference! 😀

  23. 75 Ladyhawke
    July 23, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    I saw this on BWD twitter feed.. May have already been posted, but just in case. It’s a fascinating read. Lost in all of the noise and drama – Murdoch and Fox as the research and communications arm of the Republican Party have played a major role in enabling this manufactured crisis.

    WHAT HOPE IS THERE FOR US IF AMERICA IS DRIVEN TO THE BRINK OF MELTDOWN?

    If the US cannot service its public debts and defaults, the outcome will have catastrophic consequences
    ————————————————————————————————

    When President Obama, the supreme rationalist, says that there are just days to avert Armageddon, everyone should sit up and listen. For months, Republicans have used their new majority in the House of Representatives to block any move to lift the artificial cap on the amount the US government can borrow. If by this Friday they still refuse – insisting on up to $4trillion of spending cuts, excluding defence, and no tax increases as the price of their support – then the US will be unable to service its public debts. The biggest economy on Earth will default.
    ,
    ,
    There has always been this fundamentalist strand in US life, but what has inflamed it over the last decade is a twofold process – a wrong-headed understanding of why US economic pre-eminence is being challenged, closely linked to the breakdown of a public realm in which ideas are discussed, traded and exchanged in a climate which respects argument. The abolition of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987, which required all broadcasters fairly to represent all points of view, has created a mass media shouting, ranting, sloganising and overwhelmingly from the political right.

    The leader in the charge is Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News, a TV channel with an audience of 100 million in which all news and comment have to be shoehorned – subtly in its news operation and overtly in its commentary – into a conservative worldview. It operates, as the former White House communications director Anita Dunn has said, “as either the research or communications arm of the Republican party”. Leading Republican stars such as Mike Huckabee or Sarah Palin are on its payroll. Its political shows pull no punches: the hosts are hard-line Republicans. If Fox News were to permit the case for tax increases to be fairly reported or discussed it would not be doing its job. Murdoch, refusing in a Fox News interview last week even to discuss the News of the World, would be displeased.

    ————————————————————————————————-

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/17/obama-america-economic-meltdown-murdoch

  24. 76 GGail
    July 23, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Let’s keep our eye on the future – the past is just that, the past. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

  25. July 23, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    In the last photo, Bonehead looks so uncomfortable…….. I wonder why? 😐

  26. July 23, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    It’s hard to see how a short term deal is good for the Republicans. That will only prolong this debate forever, and they are not looking good in the debate. The more the public sees, the more they understand that the Republicans don’t really care about the deficit at all. All they care about is cutting taxes, and cutting spending, and it doesn’t seem to matter to them what harm is done to people and the economy if they keep pushing that agenda. I think maybe they are just calling for a short term deal because they have to be for whatever the president is against. They just want to “win” something against the president, no matter how pointless.

    • 79 Betty's Girl
      July 24, 2011 at 12:09 am

      I agree Joe. Why would the markets want to go through this again as well. Boehner does not have to depend on the crazy T-heads either to get something through the House. He could make a deal with the Dems. He might as well because his speakership is over regardless.

  27. 80 lmrj
    July 24, 2011 at 12:09 am

    I keep looking at that 3rd pic of PBO. His expression looks to me like he’s saying “i GOT THIS!”

  28. 81 vitaminlover
    July 24, 2011 at 12:18 am

    Can tell by our Beloved President that he is HIGHLY perturbed. If Obma wasn’t in his office as President, Boehner would be picking himself up off the floor from a beat/smackdown. Want to bet?

  29. 82 vitaminlover
    July 24, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Edit to add by our Beloved President’s body language. Cause it he faced Bonehead it would be so on!!

  30. 83 vitaminlover
    July 24, 2011 at 12:24 am

    if


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