87 Responses to “thursday”

  1. 1 Tally
    July 20, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    No time for the ClownCarCrazies®. 😆

  2. July 20, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    I knew I should not have turned on Ed, but it makes me laugh. His breaking news is that boner had beer and pizza meeting with his caucus!

    That was it. And then he had on his 4 person panel to discuss this breaking news!


  3. 7 Doris
    July 20, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    I love that 2:05 meeting.

    • July 20, 2011 at 10:53 pm

      Me too. I hope he lights a fire under their behinds. I know I’m not privy to everything, but I think the Urban League and NAACP have not been nearly vocal enough, organized enough and effective enough in addressing the so-called “black issues” of unemployment, poverty, voter disenfranchisement, etc. Instead, you have clowns sitting on the sidelines blaming PBO.

      Hopefully the meeting will be very productive.

      • 9 Doris
        July 20, 2011 at 11:18 pm

        You got it PJ. Can’t wait to here what takes place. If anybody can get them on the right track, it’s the President. Hopefully or maybe he can suggest a Van Jones type advisor, not him per se, but someone with his smarts and knows his way around social and political issues that will help our community as well get folks ready, i.e., voter registration, id problems (since the repugs are going to make driver’s licenses and whatever the heck else required to register, etc.) . A lot needs to be done and these groups need some guidance.

      • 10 Carly
        July 21, 2011 at 5:21 am

        With all due respect PJ
        The Urban League has been very active in addressing the issues of high unemployment for blacks and other minorities. Mr. Morial has never been critical of this president in fact he has been very supoortive like Rev. Sharpton further i suggest you visit the national urban leagues website and sign-up for their mobile service as well, so that you may know what they are doing to assist with the unemployment issue as well as the obama administration. So many people (black included) don’t have a clue and complain when they don’t they get involved themselves.

        That is why they have a meeting with this president and has worked hand in hand with him to address the issues you spoke about. Further I might add the media also has a role in what gets out their in the mainstream not to mention black media’s role in that process. Just because you haven’t heard it doesn’t mean its not being addressed. Mark Morial is an ally of this president please do not lump him or his organization into the Tavis crowd.


        • 11 prettyfoot58
          July 21, 2011 at 7:34 am

          Carly…i agree with you are saying….if a person is not involved or only gets their news from one souce….they are woefully uninformed….that is why blogs like this are so important….

          also we have to make it our bizness to get the word out and debunk and update….

          Misinformation…lies….distortions have to be corrected…

          but my fellow TODers…i have a real concern about the voter disenfranchisement that is happening…..with these new voter regulations…it reminds me so much….of the voter issues from the 60s….
          we should not take this too lightly….a new voter bill was passed here in PA….i need to check it out…because if i go to the polls and they tell me that i cannot vote…..i will turn the place out…

        • 12 PoliticalJunkessa
          July 21, 2011 at 9:27 am

          Never lumped Morial or Jealous in with Tavis — had no intention to do so. I’ve never known either of them to be anything but supportive of the President.

          Hope the meeting is productive and that the Urban League and NAACP become more vocal and effective in addressing issues such as employment and voter disenfranchisement that are disproportionately affecting African Americans.

          And trust….I am all too wise to the media game. Unfortunately, before I complain about mainstream media not doing its job, I have to point out the lack of emphasis and seriousness paid to these issues in AA media. I’m optimistic this will begin to turn around, as there are small signs that this may be the case.

          Again, hope these two vital institutions are very successful in their endeavors, renewed in vision, and effective in purpose. They’ve been a bit disappointing over the last few years, IMO. But it’s great to see things starting to turn around. We need all hands on deck.

          Peace, Carly 😉 .

  4. July 20, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Chips, thank you for coming back to give us these wonderful updates. You are a treasure and we love you!!!!!

  5. July 20, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    I have my copy of the Better Homes and Gardens with our First Lady on the cover — it’s gorgeous! Don’t forget to get your copies, TODers :mrgreen: !

    Good night, Chips! Good night, all!

  6. 16 desertflower
    July 20, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Well, it seems that they DON’T pay their bills. How responsible of them http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/20/tea-party-nation-sued-for-dodging-las-vegas-hotel-bill/

    • July 20, 2011 at 11:15 pm

      That doesn’t surprise me at all. The teapotty are the most “fiscally irresponsible” bunch in the Congress. They all think they can ignore the debt ceiling and the tooth fairy will pay our bills but they don’t have enough teeth among them.

    • 18 Tally
      July 21, 2011 at 12:04 am

      WOW. Talk about freeloading DEADBEATS!!!!

      They talk about “welfare queens” but they’re basic THEIVES, and that’s a FELONY.

      Of course, this surprises me NOT AT ALL.

  7. July 20, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Oh, here is another big problem- if we do not fund the FAA by Friday, it shuts it’s doors and planes do not fly:


    They are blowing up our government!

  8. 20 dotster
    July 20, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    I don’t know why I punish myself——my habit of watching Jon Stewart—–but he continues his anti-Obama shtick tonight, unfavorably comparing Obama to PM Cameron, making fun of him again—–for playing soccer with the kids in Brazil—-while Cameron returned from his overseas trip to “get down in the pit” in Parliament and blast away. There’s a lot Jon Stewart doesn’t get, and he’s now on an every night bash Obama campaign, the same damaging decision as before the 2010 election. Infuriating.

    • 21 hopefruit2
      July 20, 2011 at 11:37 pm

      Not to worry. At some point when Stewart’s ratings start tumbling, he’ll be left just as speechless as the Gallup pollsters who can’t understand why people continue to stand by our President despite all the MSM’s efforts to tear him down.

      • 22 Eleroy
        July 20, 2011 at 11:56 pm

        I’m sure Jon Stewart’s numbers are down, but nobody is talking about it because he does not matter. The man’s is a spiteful, petty, jealous assclown!!!
        Stop watching him. He is not funny or profound, just plain superficial and desperate to be seen as relevant and aware!!!

        But in reality, Jon Stewart is a shallow, self-serving, disingenuous COWARD!!!

        David Cameron is not BRAVE!! David Cameron is a desperately ambitious man who sold his soul to the devil and Murdoch to eek out a term as Prime Minister!!!

        • 23 theo67
          July 21, 2011 at 1:56 am

          Indeed – why compare President Obama’s diplomatic actions in a fast-rising South American country several months ago, with the actions of PM Cameron – a man who is aligned with a criminal organization that is now known to have hacked phones of a tragically dead teenager, UK fallen soldiers, the Royal Family, UK celebrities, and potentially, US 9/11 victims. What do the two activities have to do with each other? Of course Cameron should return from some South African trip to try and save his butt.

          Jon Stewart is quickly becoming scum of the earth. I haven’t watched him in over a year.

        • July 21, 2011 at 7:43 am

          Is any Tory brave? Aw,shucks I forgot, Andrew Sullivan has a man-crush on Cameron. Go Ed Miliband!

    • 25 utaustinliberal
      July 20, 2011 at 11:46 pm

      I watched him tonight too and he was disgusting. I’m taking to twitter and blasting the shit out of him for his insinuations about PBO not paying enough attention to the troubles at home and comparing him to Cameron and the stench of the Murdoch scandal that is reeking from Cameron. The President can walk and chew gum at the same time and his Latin America trip opened up trade talks and deals that are beneficial to the American economy. I cannot believe Stewart mocked President Obama for playing soccer in a community center for poor children. My mouth dropped open in shock and I am pissed!!!!!

      At least Colbert is covering relevant stuff. Like the new voter restriction laws that are cropping up in states controlled by GOP Governors and GOP legislators that prevent students and minorities from registering to vote or even voting because they tend to heavily vote democratic. He is also covering the Allen West – Debbie Wasserman Schultz incident. Colbert shows us that you can be funny and informative at the same time. His jokes and satire are never spiteful and overly personal unlike Stewart who has become a shrew, loudmouth, unfunny and an ass-hat who spews lies.

      • 26 ChristiMtl
        July 20, 2011 at 11:57 pm

        This is so disgusting, mocking the President for playing soccer with these children? What the hell, it’s not even relevant to anything, and when was that trip anyway? It was a while ago.

        This is way too much.

        • July 21, 2011 at 7:46 am

          They will nitpick and nitpick this Prez with vile comments,sarcasm and lame jokes,until they serve themselves up with total shit..and maybe only then will they call on their remorseful selves. Um, I did say only then.

      • July 20, 2011 at 11:57 pm

        Stewart is from the looney left. I stopped watching him a long time ago and much like the case with the Maddcow, the next time I watch that tool, I’ll be voting republican. This sounds like hyperbole, but it’s not. When I watch Lawry and it goes to commercial I immediately change the station so there is absolutely no chance that I’ll see that cow’s face in her stupid monologues about how we are the heirs to blah, blah, blah. Who the fuck cares? she can bite me. Same for that out of shape douchebag tool: Stewart. I either re-watch Lawry at 11 for the first half hour while waiting for Stephen, or I watch Chelsea Lately. Stewart, Schultz and that Cow can suck it. They only cater to the lowest of the low. You’ll never catch me watching them.

      • 29 Eleroy
        July 21, 2011 at 12:04 am

        Jon Stewart has lost his fucking mind.
        In his attempt to attack President Obama for some obviously personal reasons, he is reaching and grasping for straws and bordering on the ridiculous!!!

        He glosses over Murdoch’s scandal and the really glaring matter of Republican obstructionism and focuses on the ridiculous mocking of the only man who is working his heart out on this country’s behalf – President Obama!!!

        What’s next? Jon Stewart making faces and sticking out his tongue at President Obama while calling him the N word???!!

        Jon has lost his fucking mind and undeserved success tends to do that to really insecure, small people!!!

        • 30 askew
          July 21, 2011 at 12:13 am

          Yep, Stewart’s rants against Obama have been personal for some time now. I stopped paying attention to him when we was so incredibly disrespectful to the President when Obama appeared on his show. Jon has serious disdain for Obama and acts like Obama is a naive fool. It’s irritating.

        • 31 ChristiMtl
          July 21, 2011 at 12:15 am

          Remember a year or so ago:

          According to several polls over the last few years, the most well known being the June 2009 online poll by TIME Magazine, Jon Stewart of The Daily Show is the most trusted televised newscaster since Walter Cronkite.

          I hope it’s not the case now!!!!!!

          • 32 Eleroy
            July 21, 2011 at 12:26 am

            Oh Please!!!
            That was based on people logging on to a specific website and voting from a list!!!
            that is only comparable to Lady Gaga topping out as the “most influential”!!! As if!!!

            Just remember that this same Jon Stewart hosted the lowest rated Oscars in history!!!

            The man is only rated in his mind and that of a very marginal niche audience!!!

            He can NEVER even begin wield the power or influence of Barack Obama even before the man became President!!!
            People have lost their fucking minds with all this twisted perception stuff!!!

            A seriously small, petty and insecure loser who failed at practically every opportunity he was propped up to occupy and who has now found a marginal audience on a remote comedy channel on cable is suddenly presented as somehow more credible and an equal to President Obama???!!!
            People puleeezz!!!
            Enough with the elvation of this loser stewart!!!

            • 33 Eleroy
              July 21, 2011 at 12:28 am


            • 34 ChristiMtl
              July 21, 2011 at 12:37 am

              Regardless the sources of the polls over the years, it was all over the place. Him and Rachel Maddow had that reputation.

              He is just a fraud, just like her.

              They are deliberately helping the far right by bashing the President night after night.

              2010 all over again.

        • July 21, 2011 at 7:48 am

          So tell him,Eleroy, serve him up good and proper. Oh, this is when My tech challenged mind wishes it could twitter!

        • July 21, 2011 at 7:13 pm

          It makes me wonder if he ever had one. When Rachel interviewed him he was very full of himself telling her that he played a political role, but he did not. He said people never believe what I say. BS

      • 37 QuietObserver
        July 21, 2011 at 12:27 am

        Here’s the thing- the bit failed because it was so obviously desperate and disjointed. The gist of the segment: Stewart praises PM Cameron for cutting his trip short only to come before parliament to face loud criticism. Rude British politics is awesome, unlike American politics where we had the nerve to be upset about Joe Wilson’s “you lie” stunt. BTW, Obama started a war and then went to Brazil and played soccer with children on camera…oh, and remember Bush/Cheney and the 9/11 commission debacle?

        That was the “joke.”

        I don’t hate Jon. I watch him out of habit, but his shtick is played out and his writers are inconsistent. Presidents should not be exempt from mockery within the context of comedy and satire, but mocking Obama almost always comes off in the same way that the shallow and hyperbolic “policy” criticisms do: awkward and inaccurate. The mainstream still hasn’t figured out how to make Obama meet their standards of “funny.”

        • July 21, 2011 at 3:21 am

          I never have watched Jon Stewart, don’t plan to. Stewart think to much of his self, he think he is that important. And I don’t know who came up with that piece of crap calling Stewart the most trusted man in America, that’s a lie. He’s nothing but a comedian. So let’s not make more of him then he is, it will go to his big head.

        • 39 tally
          July 21, 2011 at 1:12 pm

          If not for Jon Stewart, Glenn Beck would still have a show on Fox.

          Someone on this board made a brilliant comment a week or two ago about NOT ganging up on people in the media when they disagree with the POTUS – and to temper our commentary with restraint – and I can’t remember what was said exactly – but to not allow ourselves to fall into the mob mentality of burning the witch…. because if we get too frothy, we look like the Teaps & EmoProgs.

          I agree with QO – and I too watch on a regular basis.

          I for one, love Jon. I don’t like it when he tries to make fun of Obama because most of the time the joke doesn’t work (and the Comedy Police should come write a citation for Joke Fail.)

          I feel that in fairness, as QO (sort of) stated, there should never be ANY Sacred Cows when it comes to comedy.

          Part of me sees why Jon feels the need to go after Obama (in addition to everyone else) – to appear “Fair and Balanced” in actuality, to rub that in the face of his arch-nemesis O’Reilly and everyone at FauxNews™®™®™®™®™ – who have no collective idea what Fair & Balanced remotely is – which has worked well in the past.

          The man has won multiple Peabody and Emmy awards for a REASON. He has been the one place in ALL of BROADCAST MEDIA, that has actually reported some stories, and called out the “REAL NEWS” for blatant horseshit and not having a fucking clue what they’re talking about, and for abdicating their responsibility to society as a whole. WE NEED THAT DESPERATELY.

          There’s a reason that Jon has been called “The most trusted man in news” because it’s true. Yes, everyone, including Jon, can see how absurd and downright SAD that is because he’s a COMEDIAN, on a half hour COMEDY show.

          If it weren’t for Jon, (and Steven), we wouldn’t be here right now, because there wouldn’t have been ANYONE showing the world (yes, those shows are global) and especially AMERICA, how ridiculous and useless our media has become.

          I don’t agree with everything Jon says or does, and I especially bristle when it comes to Obama. And I admit it’s been a little weird lately in the past couple of months at times, but not all the time. I think the reason I’m so sensitive lately is because we’re in such a serious situation, and because it’s so fucking tragic, it’s hard to find the funny.

          So I step back. And I remember the BEYOND BRILLIANT WEEK that Jon went after Jim Cramer from CNBC for not having a fucking clue about the Financial Disaster and pretending he did. If you missed it, you might want to search on youtube for Daily Show Jim Cramer (week of 3/4/09.)

          Jon has also been INTEGRAL in pointing out the INSANITY of the Teaps, Sarah Palin’s Summer Vacation Bus to Nowhere Tour ’11, Bachmann being batshit crazy…..McCain & Mitt saying different things every day, Mitt talking about being unemployed, the list is endless.


          And while I bristle when he goes after Obama in a way I don’t agree with or care for, he consistently points out just HOW FUCKING BRILLIANT Obama is – like recently when Obama pointed out that his daughters have more common sense than the HouseOfCrazy, and talked about “Dad getting mad.” It was perfect, because the loons have been acting like toddlers, and should be treated accordingly.

          Jon is not the enemy. The HouseOfCrazy® and those who support them, ARE.

          Stay focused, and don’t bite the wrong hand.

          • 40 utaustinliberal
            July 21, 2011 at 1:29 pm

            Hey Tally, I do agree that Jon’s comedic influence stretches far and wide and he is great to watch when he cogently points out the mess that is our media and our political system. And you’re right that there should be no sacred cows when it comes to comedy; but over the past four or five months there’s been a difference in the way Stewart and Colbert make jokes or use satire to point out society’s foibles. Stewart’s relevant material are few and far in between. His jabs are increasingly personal and mean. Just downright mean. Colbert on the other hand strikes that perfect balance between truth and using comedy to illuminate the truth even when he doesn’t agree with President Obama. I think even Jon Stewart’s audience is getting tired of the endless, never ceasing unfunny jabs against the President and if you watch those sections when his jokes fail time after time, it is clear that the audience is just giving him pity laughs. 2012 is whole different ball game with a whole different set of monsters: GOP, PL, teabggers, firebaggers and the like. No one says Stewart should be sychophantic towards President Obama and he should certainly hold his feet to the fire; but also give credit when and where credit is due, make funny jokes and while making those jokes stop trying to go head to head with Bill O’Reilly in some competition to see who can point out how terrible he thinks President Obama is. He might want to let his writers take a lesson from the folks over at the Colbert Report, so that they learn how brilliant political comedy is crafted.

            • 41 tally
              July 21, 2011 at 1:44 pm

              I totally agree. It HAS been weird. I have felt there have been way too many cheap shots – and I TOTALLY agree there seems to be some weird bet with O’Reilly that Jon made where he can say – LOOK, I CAN BASH OBAMA TOO. I personally think that’s stupid, and pointless. Why he even cares what anyone at Faux thinks – especially now – is beyond me.

              I also agree that it’s not working, and the jokes are falling flat.

              So I write to the show, and twitter, and try to always say – HEY AWESOME – or WTF STOP IT!

              What I find interesting is he hasn’t done a ton on Murdoch yet (a little, yes), but I think he’s getting ready to really let the hammer down when it’s time. And it’s going to come down HARD on Newscorp – and Jon/Steven & Co are going to be a huge part of that.

              I’m just not ready to throw Jon under the bus. He’s still one of the few shining a huge spotlight on the ClownCarCrazies®, and for that I’m thankful.

              • 42 tally
                July 21, 2011 at 2:00 pm

                One more thing.

                If we were to lose Jon or Steven, (both of whom are the BIGGEST in pointing out the insanity on the right – and have the biggest audience who listen) we would be FUCKED.

                Think about that. Who else has as big an audience, or shows them all on a daily basis, or points out just HOW FUCKING INSANE THEY ARE???


                No one.

                We need Jon & Steven.

                If you take issue with what they’re saying, WRITE TO THEM AND TELL THEM.

                • 43 tally
                  July 21, 2011 at 2:07 pm


                  It’s a comment form. Tell them to stop bashing Obama, and talk about all these people who signed a pledge to King Norquist.

                  • 44 tally
                    July 21, 2011 at 2:11 pm

                    I just wrote them this:

                    Please stop the cheap Obama bashing (playing soccer with poor kids in Brazil isn’t a bad thing. Attacking that looked really sad, not funny.)

                    Why aren’t you guys hammering the King Norquist Loyalty Pledge that these crazy Rs hold above their oath of office….. ???

            • 45 Audrey
              July 21, 2011 at 5:10 pm

              Thanks UTAustinliberal!I don’t know which Jon Stewart Tally has been watching this past year! The man has become increasingly ridiculous in his headscratching personal jabs at PBO!
              I frankly think that Glen Beck did less harm to PBO than Stewart especially since Beck played to an already kooky crowd and most sane people dismissed him outrightly.

              Jon Stewart on the other hand has been (initially) stealth in his very insidious attempt to strip PBO of respect, dignity, and support! The endless introduction of PBO into unrelated stories just to demean, denigrate and mock (the picture of a bare-chested PBO. WTF?)

              A vile, destructive man who helps take down an equally vile, destructive man I consider an enemy (Beck), is not necessarily my friend or ally! Sorry Tally!
              Don’t care how many Peabody and Emmy trophies Jon Stewart has stashed away, it is important to remember that it was for specific
              work at a specific time and also not necessarily reflective of genius as much as it is a popularity vote!

              I know of many an undeserved recipients of these awards!

              The idea that we must show restraint in our response to people like Jon Stewart who have repeatedly shown themselves as intent on destroying this President because once upon a time they happened to share some of our views on issues and people can only be compared to telling an abused wife to stay with her abusive husband reminding her of the good old early days when they first fell in love and long before he became an angry alcoholic and abusive!

              Many here have often quoted that Maya Angelou bit: If a person shows you who they are, believe them! Jon Stewart and the gang of them have indeed shown us who they are and I believe them!

              • 46 tally
                July 21, 2011 at 5:44 pm

                There’s a lot I’ve disagreed with on Jon’s show. But…..

                Jon has done MORE damage to Obama than Glenn Beck? How?

                Jon Has “repeatedly shown [his] intent on destroying this President” ? I guess I missed those. Can you link me to some clips where that was his clear intent?

                So Jon has become an angry alcoholic husband that is now abusing the POTUS? I watch a lot, but I’ve obviously missed those episodes, and would love to see them. Please set me straight.

                I apologize, Audrey, and everyone else who disagrees with me, but I missed those episodes and would love some education. Please help me see where Jon has turned into this monster you say he is. I mean that sincerely, I hate being uninformed. 🙂

              • July 21, 2011 at 7:03 pm

                Here is my concern with Stewart. If he indeed helped get Beck off of television with his ridicule, than what if his belittling of Obama leads young voters to have a negative view of obama and think PBO is a piece of trash. That is the way he treats PBO. I cannot stand the man. If he destroyed Beck that means he could also really hurt the president.

                I have no forgiveness for him.

                • 48 tally
                  July 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm

                  I just rewatched that interview and I must say, I don’t see it.

                  Jon not only supports and defends Obama over Common, and hands Bill O’Reilly his ass doing it, he speaks about Obama in a very respectful way, saying his expectations may not have been fair and says, “I’ve come to respect a certain steadiness of his craft…. that I don’t necessarily agree with” … because he wanted him to be more Teddy Roosevelt…than Tip O’Neill How is that destroying Obama? I don’t sense any hate. Maybe my hate meter is broken. I only see that as honest opinion.

                  If he hated Obama, he never would have defended him on Common.

                  I also think the way he also handed Chris Wallace his ass, and called him INSANE – was awesome. (Which I watched too just now.)

                  Just because he says there might be a scenario, someday, that he might vote for someone else, is being honest for Jon. I don’t see it as betrayal.

                  • 49 Eleroy
                    July 21, 2011 at 9:49 pm

                    Common on Tally, “supporting” Common and sending a catered meal to Oprah’s last show does are some of the few tactics slick actors like Jon Stewart use to deflect blatant acts of disrespect towards President Obama!!!

                    Jon Stewart finds it very hard to address him as ‘President” even when he never forgets to preface every reference to Bush and Clinton with “president”.

                    There has been a sense amongst my black friends that Jon Stewart has exhibited strains of racism not only towards Prsident Obama, but to many black pols.

                    His disdain of President Obama can burn a hole through the t.v screen and that is not the reaction of a man who respects another!!!

                    There is so much malice in Jon Stewarts treatment of this President and no amount of random defense of or contrived friendship with a handful of black celebrities can cover something so blatant!!!

                    • 50 Tally
                      July 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm

                      Jon was the first to jump to Obama’s defense regarding Common.

                      I’m not going to condem him for sending anything to Oprah. Why should I????

                      I’m sorry I don’t see the hate you see. I JUST DON’T.

                      I’ve asked for a LINK to this “Malice” and no one has posted one.

                      I refuse to have some purity test on this like the Teaps and PL do. I WILLNOT be so rigid.

                      I am also not in favor of some MOST HATED LIST OF CELEBRITIES that we all must universally condemn.

                      You guys can hate on Jon all you want, but I don’t have to come with you, and I have to be honest, I’m starting to feel a bit bullied because I have a differnce of opinion.

                      If I don’t pass your purity test regarding MY SUPPORT FOR OBAMA, because I like Jon Stewart – then so be it.

                    • 51 Audrey
                      July 21, 2011 at 11:56 pm

                      Wow! Nobody is bullying you Tally or even asking you to “condemn” Jon Stewart or pass some “purity test to show your support for Obama”!

                      You have YOUR take-away from the Jon Stewart shows and those of us who who disagree have ours! It is as simple as that!

                      There is no need to post links to Jon Stewart’s show clips that in my opinion support the many instances of Jon being such a jerk and being extremely demeaning of PBO in the pettiest of ways – that would entail posting links to most of his shows these past several months and I suspect that you might still not see or hear what I and some others do.

                      What I read from Elerioy’s post about the Oprah thing is that many who attack PBO will go out of their way to embrace or support other pronminent black people to avoid the racist label! Also the defense of Common was a defense of Common and not of PBO exactly.

                    • 52 Tally
                      July 22, 2011 at 2:49 am

                      Full disclosure – I’m totally immersed in the Red Tent, so I just may be overly sensative – so my apologies. (sorry if that was TMI.) 🙂

                      As I said before, I don’t agree with Jon all the time, and it’s been weird lately. But I don’t see racism, hate, or disdain. I see some cheap shots from a comedian – that I personally don’t find funny because I think what has been said is just factually incorrect – truth is what makes comedy funny – so when it’s not about the truth or you try to twist it to fit into a joke – it fails.

                      But I’m not seeing what you all see “blantant disprespect and disdain for Obama”, and that bothers me, because I feel I must be blind… or stupid or something, because I respect the hell out of everyone here – so what am I missing – well, other than being a complete blonde, Valley Girl, I mean OTHER THAN THAT…… 😀 (It’s sad, because I am… *sigh* so I guess I have an excuse? No really – I do. COME ON!! I DO!!!) 😀 😀 😀

                      I just watched tonight’s Daily Show (after the EPIC stage 18 of Le Tour – OMG!) and it was awesome, and funny as hell. NOT ONE MENTION OF OBAMA or his administration – nothing. He did spend 75% of the show pounding on the GOP Prez candidates and showed some extra special schooling to Alan (douchebag) West and his cowardly/hypocritical “say it to my face” EMAIL he sent DWS which was extra hilarious because of the stupidity of someone sending an EMAIL saying “say it to my FACE.” 😆 I mean…… that joke just wrote itself. Thanks Alan.

                      Then some guy who wrote a book about McKinley, which was a bit snoozy. The Moment of Zen was Bachmann talking about celery being her favorite food ever. HAAAAAAAAA. You can’t make that shit up. I don’t think I missed some hidden Obama hate – but I’m on some pretty heavy pain meds for 48 hours…..so anything is possible. (Lesson for the ladies: Girls, use your uterus as intended and it won’t get angry. Mine is a bit jealous of my vagina… and is really mad it’s been only action-adjacent.)

                      About a year ago on HuffPo, I said that Obama was definitely going to end both DADT and DOMA. But because I was an Obama supporter, all the PUMA/Hillary-FOREVER people hated on me, and called me homophobic, a gay-hater, and a thousand other names – all because I supported Obama. WHAT THE FUCK? They could not see I was on their side – BECAUSE I LOVE OBAMA, and everything that comes out of my mouth is apparently evil. Oh. Fucking. Kay.

                      I recently spoke here of a friend (bitter Hillary supporter) with a blog who hates on Obama on his (Left-political) blog EVERY SINGLE DAY. In fact, he often states that “Tally is the last Obama supporter…..” making fun of me, and how pathetic and blind my Obama love is, on that blog. (I used to be a regular contributor there, for years, until after Obama won, and nothing Obama has done has ever been good enough.) Obama could walk on water and he would say Obama was lazy for not swimming.

                      I have another friend who is so angry with Obama for not arresting Bush/Cheny Inc and sending them to the Hague on Jan 21, 2009, he refuses to vote for Obama because he is one of those “no different than the GOP” people. It boggles my MIND, and there is no reasoning with him. He can’t see that if he isn’t part of the solution, he’s part of the PROBLEM.

                      The reason I bring that up is because I think there’s a huge difference between those people (including the PUMAs, Jane Hamster & her wheel of swindlers, etc), and Jon Stewart.

                      But apparently, Jon has crossed that line for some of you that my Obama support crossed for the PUMAs on HuffPo, and my two friends.

                      We all have lines/boundaries…. I’m not even close to mine with Jon. Could he get there with me? Of course. But he helped tonight. He was part of the solution. For me he does that far more than he hurts.

                      My friend’s blog is another story. He has not been part of the solution. He’s become part of the problem, and it makes me really sad in two ways.

                      1. He’s a smart guy, and many long-time supporters have written him and told him to please stop bashing the POTUS. But he won’t listen. He’s lost a lot of money because he’s lost subscribers, readers, and clicks. And he wonders why.

                      2. He can’t see he’s part of the problem, because he’s blinded by his own hate, and he sees anyone who disagrees with him as stupid and ill-informed.

                      He hates one of the main things I love about Obama: That Obama sees himself as EVERYONE’S PRESIDENT, not just his supporters.

                      anyway – I love you guys, and thanks for letting me be vent from The Red Tent.

                      ❤ ❤ ❤

    • July 20, 2011 at 11:49 pm

      I saw the end of that and wondered what he was talking about. the video he was showing was a while ago and I don’t even see how Stewart and his team twisted themselves to make any connection.

    • 54 ChristiMtl
      July 20, 2011 at 11:50 pm

      When I first saw him give an interview whining about the President, how disappointed he was with him. I knew it was over.

      He was jumping on the new ”in” thing….bashing the president.

      From what I saw in clips here and there after, since I no longer watch his show, it went downhill.

      I can’t stand any of these corporate owned hypocrites.

      • July 21, 2011 at 7:06 pm

        Hell, he went on Bill Riley’s show and said he has never been more disappointed i n his life than with PBO. Bill said really? Jon indicated that the president is a failure on Faux News.

        The hell with him. The way he talked to the president and called him dude to his face. Right, that was really funny.

    • 56 COS
      July 21, 2011 at 12:42 am

      Dotster, I stop watching Stewart and deleted him from my dvr long time ago. I don’t find him funny anymore, even when other folks think he is funny. He bashes PBO way to much for me. He is so full of himself now. As far as I am concerned, he is just as dangerous as Fox news in a different way. His criticism of PBO is unfounded and the fact that he can’t name any of PBO’s accomplishments turns me off.

    • 57 Puddin
      July 21, 2011 at 12:44 am

      I only watch a little bit of Tweety and a little bit of Lawry (I think this is what you all call Lawerence)…when they start that crazy talk, I switch to Martin reruns. I also watch Rev. Al Sharpton…I think he is doing a good job. He is getting better with each passing day, contrary to what Jonathan Truley blogged. I used to watch Jon, Keith, Ed and Rachel…I can’t anymore, so I come here to find out what they said or didn’t say…

    • July 21, 2011 at 6:14 am

      Jon ‘ false equivalency,yet bash Obama all the time’ Stewart? Well, I put it to you, it’s up to the family of ‘Twitterati’ to deal with him!

    • 59 Titti
      July 21, 2011 at 12:28 pm

      After consorting with the Murdoch ‘crime’ family, Cameron rushed back coz he thought his azz was gonna be ‘overthrown’ – shame that he can’t get ‘overthrown’. He is shyting bullets right about now, he is as popular as Gaddafi – approval rating at -15.

  9. July 20, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    Colbert talking about so called voter ID fraud legislation and DWS. He’s so funny!!!

  10. 62 collegekay
    July 21, 2011 at 12:02 am

    PBO’s interview from today if case anyone missed it

  11. 64 desertflower
    July 21, 2011 at 12:03 am

    Yea!!!! Want to block anything “Murdoch” from your computer? There’s an APP for that!
    http://www.politicususa.com/en/murdoch-block-newscorp For Google Chrome users…that would be lots of us:)

  12. 65 dotster
    July 21, 2011 at 12:04 am

    Intrigued by Colbert’s Harvard prof guest and his course and book, “Justice”. It’s available online? Sounded very interesting, and Colbert always is so entertaining with his guests, a great interviewer.

    • 66 Eleroy
      July 21, 2011 at 12:14 am

      Yeah, just be careful with praising Colbert too much!!!

      Jon Stewart owns the Cobert show and anytime people start gushing about Colbert over the small, petty, insecure one, Steven’s show suddenly takes a wierd sharp turn downwards with some gratuituous Obama-bashing!!!

  13. 67 askew
    July 21, 2011 at 12:19 am

    So, Cenk is blaming the WH for losing his MSNBC gig and Greenwald is pushing this conspiracy theory on twitter. Pretty funny stuff.


    On a positive note, let’s hope Sharpton being hired and Lawrence becoming pro-Obama is just the beginning. If they got rid of Ed and put in a more pragmatic host, I’d be in heaven.

    • 68 COS
      July 21, 2011 at 12:44 am

      Good riddance to this Cenk character. He is a whiner and a liar.

    • 69 Puddin
      July 21, 2011 at 1:14 am

      Cenk can blame it (his departure) on the Goose (Jamie Fox song) :-). If what he said, happened then why is Morning Joke still on? Cenk was not/is not good, period!

    • July 21, 2011 at 3:29 am

      With all the stuff this President is dealing with, he has the time to have a two bit pundit thrown off of tv. If that’s the case then why not go after Maddow or Ed? This Cenk guy is just being proven to be the jerk that he is.

  14. July 21, 2011 at 12:35 am

    WordPress is weirding out on me. Let me try to post this comment again.

    I watched that Daily Show segment tonight. Here’s the thing- the bit failed because it was so obviously desperate and disjointed. The gist of the segment: Stewart praises PM Cameron for cutting his trip short only to come before parliament to face loud criticism. Rude British politics is awesome, unlike American politics where we had the nerve to be upset about Joe Wilson’s “you lie” stunt. BTW, Obama started a war and then went to Brazil and played soccer with children on camera…oh, and remember Bush/Cheney and the 9/11 commission debacle?

    That was the “joke.”

    I don’t hate Jon. I watch him out of habit, but his shtick is played out and his writers are inconsistent. Presidents should not be exempt from mockery within the context of comedy and satire, but mocking Obama almost always comes off in the same way that the shallow and hyperbolic “policy” criticisms do: awkward and inaccurate. The mainstream still hasn’t figured out how to make Obama meet their standards of “funny.”

  15. July 21, 2011 at 12:42 am

    re: Stewart, Ed, Maddcow aka The Three Dumbegos:

    Amen, Amen, Amen and A-fricking-men to every darned thing you said Eleroy! Thank you for saying that. Stewart and his female counterpart the Maddcow are ridiculous and their vitriol is insidious and fracking dangerous. I understand wanting to remain aware, but the awareness they provide is no awareness at all. It’s just viciousness clothed in so called humor (Stewart) and viciousness clothed in so called intelligence (the Cow). Their kind of awareness hurts your heart and burdens your spirit. After being beaten and battered by their ‘awareness’ you are left weary and discouraged. I know that whenever the Cow or the Douche say something that gets us up in alt, we send e-mails and we tweet and we call. We talk about sending a message by not watching and by boycotting their sponsors. But the thing is we never really follow through as a collective, so the message we are trying to send, never gets heard. Instead the 10, 20, 30…50, 1000 of us who do manage to contact PBO’s detractors are easily swatted away like harmless fleas, case in point, the most recent blow up with the Cow whose response to our calls, tweets and e-mails was something like:’ You all can be angry with me but it’s the truth.’
    Look, I respect everyone’s right to choose to do whatever they want to do, watch, read or whatever. But the point is, what the Cow, the Douche and the Blowhard do aren’t anything new. About a week or two ago another commenter and I discussed the fact that I was so surprised that the Hamster and Adam Greed pocketed money they bamboozled from so called progressive. I think the discussion was with Keith and he basically said: why are you surprised, they do this all the time. We shouldn’t act surprised when they do this (paraphrased). My response was that I am always surprised when I discover people can sink to new lows and that we should never be too desensitized to the mendacity and sometimes evilness of others. It’s a mark of our humanity that people, politics and situations can still surprise us. I made that statement less than 2 weeks ago. I still stand by it. However, in the case of the The Three Dumbegos, surprise is not an option. This is not a new low that they are sinking to. They have been on a collision course to crazytown since PBO was signed into office. The Cow has been- up to this point- quite Bipolar when it comes to this president. In his first 100 day: when is he gonna end the war, when is he gonna close Gitmo, when is he gonna repeal DADT, when is he gonna stop defending DOMA, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. ” Oh, he hasn’t repealed DADT and he’s been in office for a year? This president obviously does not believe in gay rights. He is losing his base because he won’t do what I tell him to do– me, an uniformed hack who’s never worked in politics or government a damn day in her life.” Fast forward one year later: “Oh, he repealed DADT, well isn’t he the greatest?!! This guy does not get enough credit. Let me dedicate 20 minutes of my show telling everybody how PBO has- in two years- fulfilled 85% of his campaign promises…….oh wait, what?! He won’t say he believes in gay marriage?!! WTF?!! This guy is a liar and a homophobe!!!”
    There is nothing surprising about Maddcow’s, Stewart’s and Ed’s behaviors. Even though I don’t watch these shows, I find all three predictable because I read everyone’s comments. There is rarely a week that goes by when someone doesn’t come here to vent about these idiots and yet, we still watch them, expecting to see or hear something new. Well folks, unless PBO turns white, blonde and grows boobs and manages to look exactly like Hillary Clinton, you ain’t gonna hear anything new. In fact, as time goes on and we get closer to the election, it’s only gonna get worse. So you have a choice to make: Keep on banging your head against the wall or set yourself free. Stewart, Ed and the Cow aren’t going to change for you. They’ve now found their niche. 10, 20, 30, 1000 of us can call and write and tweet, but those three don’t care about us, they still have the 7 percenters who are their core audience. There is a saying that insanity is defined as constantly doing the same thing and expecting different results. This goes back to the conversation I had with Keith some time ago. We should never, ever be desensitized to lying, cheating and downright evil doing. We should always identify it and call it out, we are better people for it and it makes the world a better place for everyone. But you don’t have wade into the mire to shed light on the truth, all you gain from that is a whole lot of muck and grime all over you. I made my choice some time ago to not let these people wear me down, to not let them harm my spirit, to not let them desensitize me to the good and the bad in the world and especially in politics. I feel better. I see things clearer, I am more enriched now than I ever was before. Everyone has to make their own choice.

    • 79 Chi
      July 21, 2011 at 2:49 am

      Very well put Lisa…

      I no longer watch any of these folks and I’m healthier, happier, saner, smarter and much more focused for it…

      The adoption of the same tired tactics/style of rightwing talk radio…the bombast, the loud spewing of non-factual crap at the top of their lungs, the same financially motivated decision to gain a dubious following by curiously portraying President Obama as the enemy, the vindictiveness, the amusingly ironic display of really thin skin, the lies, the lazy approach to research relying mostly on hearsay and bits of unverified off-hand commentary on blog sites run by their equally financially motivated companions…

      You know with rightwing media, one knew exactly what they were and what to expect…

      It was clear they were in it not just for the money and influence generated by  their mostly racist, twisted version of *entertainment*, but to do the bidding of their wealthy benefactors whose primary goal was to keep the masses sufficiently misinformed, uninformed and dumbed down and most importantly, malleable to their political, social and economic whims…

      For a long time many of these people moaned and bitched about how there were no “liberal” voices in the media; how talk radio was overrun with rightwing henchmen; how wealthy liberals unlike their republican counterparts were unwilling to finance “progressive” radio/ television…

      And having now had a chance to observe most of these so-called “liberal” voices in the media, I am actually grateful that they are few and far between and that they are under-funded…

    • 80 prettyfoot58
      July 21, 2011 at 7:49 am

      As said by LIsa,,,,,

      We should never, ever be desensitized to lying, cheating and downright evil doing. We should always identify it and call it out, we are better people for it and it makes the world a better place for everyone. But you don’t have wade into the mire to shed light on the truth, all you gain from that is a whole lot of muck and grime all over you. I made my choice some time ago to not let these people wear me down, to not let them harm my spirit, to not let them desensitize me to the good and the bad in the world and especially in politics. I feel better. I see things clearer, I am more enriched now than I ever was before. Everyone has to make their own choice.

      i would add….that it is good to identify who is who…to understand that…and evaluate…i think it is good to watch those shows…to stay informed…but to understand where they stand…and more importantly….why they stand where they stand…..

  16. 81 meta
    July 21, 2011 at 12:44 am

    I think it’s pretty obvious by now that the PL don’t care who’s in the WH as long as they can stew in their own juices, get their protest on and have you pay their bills while doing it. They only care about commodifying their angst. It’s a profitable ratings game and has nothing to do with political loyalty.

  17. 82 HZ
    July 21, 2011 at 1:10 am

    Good Nite TOD family and Chipsticks. Everyone have a restful evening and Africa, my candles are lit for you and your request. I love all of the work that Chipsticks and the contributors do to make this a beautiful family. I continue to be grateful to Chipsticks for keeping this a wonderful and respectful haven for us to come to. So Chipsticks, I hope that you are resting and relaxing while still making this a wonderful place to be. Good nite to all of you, and remember that I also love you all back. HZ

  18. 83 Puddin
    July 21, 2011 at 1:27 am

    Great comment…I feel the same way you do. At first, I would send emails, but I have since stopped…a waste of time, beause they are going to do what they do…I can like it (them) or not…I don’t, so I just turn them off.

  19. 84 Tally
    July 21, 2011 at 1:57 am

    More on the THURSDAY docket:



    Granted, it’s not as awesome as soccer – but it’s still amazing. These guys ride for TWENTY ONE DAYS with only two days off (two Mondays.)

    Stage 18 of the Tour de France – Should be renamed Tour de Carnage this year since there have been so many injuries and withdrawls – including THIS:

    One guy gets hit by car, the other gets thrown into a barbedwire fence – BOTH RIDERS ARE STILL IN THE TOUR!!! 😯

    Thursday & Friday are going to be INSANE. They’re in the Alps – with insane climbs. Thursday has THREE – BEYOND CATAGORY CLIMBS.

    Those are the highest rated in grade and height. Basically KICK YOUR ASS climbs. (Climbs that Lance Armstrong used to eat for breakfast.)

    It’s on Versus (Now owned by NBC Sports) – they run it pretty much all day – the live feed begins Thursday at 4AM PDT, and Friday 5AM PDT. Then they run it again throughout the day, with a PrimeTime show at 5PM PDT and again around 9pm PDT.

    FRIDAY is Alpe-d’Huez:

    A LEGENDARY mountain. There will be over a MILLION people along the route on that last climb – it will be INSANE.

    Saturday is an individual time trial – which will be awesome, then Sunday is the final into Paris and around the Champs-Elysees.


    Trust me.

    PS – TIVO is your friend. There are a lot of commercials at the beginning so they can broadcast the exciting bits commercial free.

    • 85 Tally
      July 21, 2011 at 2:29 am

      soooooo OT – apologies –

      (like anyone cares – but I sw a lot of you watching the WWC on Sunday, and you must admit – it was EPIC.)

      I know it must seem like I’m some SportsWhore but I’m not. I have ADD when it comes to sports these days and have no patience for most.

      I do love HOT MEN RUNNING for 90 minutes (soccer – the women are fun too because they kick ass.)

      Also love Le Tour – because it’s FRANCE IN HD, and you get awesome helicoptor shots of places like this (today):

      And The Triple Crown, because I wanted to be a jockey before I got too tall.

      Lotto fantasy – chanse the Tour de France VIP style one year…. 😀 FRANCE! IN SUMMER! IN HD!!!

      ok – thread hijack over……

  20. 86 Ladyhawke
    July 21, 2011 at 6:12 am


    It used to be that a sworn oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution was the only promise required to become president. But that no longer seems to be enough for a growing number of Republican interest groups, who are demanding that presidential candidates sign pledges shackling them to the corners of conservative ideology. Many candidates are going along, and each pledge they sign undermines the basic principle of democratic government built on compromise and negotiation.
    That pledge is the single biggest reason the federal government is now on the edge of default. Its signers will not allow revenues in a deal to raise the debt ceiling.


  21. 87 stylishgurl
    July 21, 2011 at 11:47 am

    This is from a week ago but it is still a fun read: HOW CAN WE NOT LOVE OBAMA?


    Love Stylishgurl

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