a word from tally: nothing is agreed, until everything is agreed

Everyone remember what Lawrence O’ said last week:

“Nothing is agreed to, until EVERYTHING is agreed to.”

The 7ish-Gang™ Bill still has to be taken from the SENATE – by being attached to something they have that originated in the HOUSE – sent back to the HOUSE, and the HouseOfCrazy® has to vote on it.

Now, think about that in the TIME FRAME WE HAVE to raise the debt ceiling….. ok – stop laughing….. seriously, now.

My thoughts? There is no time. Obama will get a clean bill – like he wanted in the first place. 😀 (Because the Debt Ceiling should NEVER EVER be attached to the budget – you should look at your bank account FIRST before you decide you can afford two wars and a tax cut for the überwealthy – if the Bush/GOP had done that {and weren’t such anti-tax loons}, we wouldn’t be talking about this, but I digress…)

The Teaps will fight that because they’re morons, who can’t understand basic math.

SOME GOP ADULT SOMEWHERE – will sit them down and explain that a private family can’t sell US Treasury Bonds to borrow more capital to pay it’s bills, but the Government can. However, a private family (if they have property) can take a second mortgage out on their house to pay their bills, put food on the table, and invest in an enterprise that will generate cash – so they can in future, pay back the 2nd, and MAKE MONEY. Hopefully, this adult can also explain that the US Gov (Fed/State/Local) is the largest employer on the planet with more employees world-wide than any private company. That the GOV can create jobs faster and more cost-effectively (when PROPERLY FUNDED) than any private entity because they don’t have $12million annual+bonus CEOs to feed, stocks to sell, or profit to worry about.

This adult will then give a basic math class consisting of the following math equation:

Taxes = Programs = JOBS for people to run said programs = people with a paycheck = people with money to SPEND = larger demand for goods & services = companies hiring to fulfill demand for goods & services = more people with JOBS = more money being spent = economic stimulation = more people paying taxes = more money into system = more programs can be created/infrastructure getting repaired, teachers, police, fire, etc = more people getting a PAYCHECK = more demand for goods and services x infinity.

Yes, we need to bring back manufacturing, and a billion other things, but until that happens there is STUFF WE CAN DO HERE.

Of course, we’re talking about the ClownCarCrazies® so I’m sure they’ll willfully still believe in the Magical Money/Jobs Tree that is the every rich man’s back yard. But hey, a girl can hope.

Of course some LAW ADULT should also explain to Those Who Refute Reality that it’s:

1. Dereliction of Duty to NOT raise the debt ceiling. The wording and the LAW of the 14th is clear: CONGRESS SHALL ENFORCE (America to pay her bills.) There is no choice. If they refuse, they can and should be removed from office for dereliction of duty. Then they can get a vote by those who are left.

2. It’s also sedition to willfully crash the US Economy. It makes them a domestic enemy, which they are sworn to protect against.

3. It’s beyond a conflict of interest bordering on treason to sign a loyalty pledge to ANYONE or ANYTHING that is held above the US CONSTITUTION.

Those are just three reasons they SHOULD be removed from office.

After they get a clean bill and raise the debt ceiling, they’ll tweak this bill some more, AFTER they do a JOBS bill which Obama could pound them with not passing until election day – then they’re swept from office, then the Bush tax cuts expire, and we can get some serious shit done during Obama2.

224 Responses to “a word from tally: nothing is agreed, until everything is agreed”

  1. 1 Fred
    July 20, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    good stuff Tally 🙂

  2. 2 Bobfr
    July 20, 2011 at 3:29 pm



    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  3. 3 Debz
    July 20, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Excellent, Tally as always!
    Hope you are enjoying your trip, Chips!

  4. July 20, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Totally excellent! Thank you and I am passing this on.

  5. 6 utaustinliberal
    July 20, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Thanks for this Tally. I was also thinking today, that with only 13 days to go until the August 2 debt deadline, that a clean debt ceiling bill might be the way to go and after that, tweaks, changes and addendums could be added that would cut spending and raise revenue accordingly. It frustrates me and any other adult that a procedural bill has become this big brouhaha because republicans refuse to act in a mature manner. After the debt ceiling passes, the word on the street is that President Obama is looking to introduce a new job initiative that includes a focus on manufacturing since that sector has been improving in leaps and bounds and he can use that to hammer and nail republicans to the ground when they side with the so called “job creators” aka the uber wealthy and once again screw the middle and working class.

  6. 7 meta
    July 20, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    Thanks, Tally! I have tremendous hope this will all be settled.

    DWS and supporters about to have presser, livestreamed at CNN


    • 8 meta
      July 20, 2011 at 3:42 pm

      80 House Repubs have now signed Walsh letter opposing any vote on McConnell escape proposal. ARGH, these people are clearly NUTS and Tally’s remedies should definitely be applied to this situation.

      • 9 StR
        July 20, 2011 at 4:45 pm

        Are they freshmen in seats that were held by Dems after the 2008 Obama wave? Because those seats are obviously purple and will be ripe for the picking.

      • 10 HZ
        July 20, 2011 at 5:08 pm

        That Walsh guy is a hater. I believe he will face some karma that will be sincere justice in his hateful thoughts that he spews on tv and also in his backstabbing actions in the House. This rep. will not be a peaceful and at peace person for years to come. What an awful person he is in the human race. Does he not understand that POTUS has a whole lot of great people fighting all the way with him , and POTUS WILL WIN, Mr. Walsh. You can count on that. We are about solving problems, not matter how difficult, not about evil, hateful actions. Get a real life, Mr. Walsh. We do not eat hate for breakfast. We eat goodness, love, joy, peace, loving and looking out for your neighbor, fostering goodness in our educational reform for our children, taking good and respectful care of our seniors, and respecting and taking care of our men and women who are fighting for us and trying to help others women and children have a decent and better life. That is what President Obama’s family here at TOD and BWD are eating. See, we grew up with great parents who taught us how to measure our words in love and patience, fight for what is right, and NEVER give up HOPE. That is what keeps us nourished each day.

    • 11 meta
      July 20, 2011 at 3:46 pm

      Oooooops, doesn’t look like DWS is there…..

    • 12 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 3:51 pm

      DirecTV isn’t a supported provider for live CNN.

      FUCK YOU!!!!! grr! hiss!

      Oh well……

      • 13 EDP4BHO
        July 20, 2011 at 7:31 pm

        Tally, when I first read any of your posts, I thought you were a bit laid back, a bit shy. Then you began to be more vocal, and now we see the real Tally. Fierce, awesome, tell it like it is, grown-up woman, taking no prisoners, pulling no punches, knock down drag em out, kick ass Tally. I like it. Please keep it up 😀

        • 14 tally
          July 20, 2011 at 7:54 pm

          Awe!!!! Thanks babe!

          I’m too fucking old to tolerate stupid anymore. My hormones won’t put up with it. 😀

    • 15 COS
      July 20, 2011 at 3:59 pm

      I really love how these women are standing together against this bully Allen West.

  7. 17 tally
    July 20, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    damn that was fast. You’re supposed to be on a BEACH drinking something blue with a little umbrella in it!!!

  8. July 20, 2011 at 3:40 pm


    “SOME GOP ADULT SOMEWHERE – will sit them down and explain that a private family can’t sell US Treasury Bonds to borrow more capital to pay it’s bills, but the Government can.”

    I believe his name is Tom Donahue.

  9. 22 meta
    July 20, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    {{{{WoooooOSHHHHH}}}} HI CHIPS!! {{{{{WoooooooSHHHHH}}}}

  10. 23 dotster
    July 20, 2011 at 4:18 pm

    Thanks tally for some sanity. I hope someone sits them down and tries to penetrate their thick skulls. Those House Repubs, most with tea party roots, are seemingly determinedly dense. They will not listen to the truth. They just keep repeating delusions and lies. We’ve always had a few crazies here and there but never this many coalesced dummies all at once. It’s beyond tolerable, and these close-minded fools don’t belong anywhere near our government.

    • 24 majii
      July 21, 2011 at 12:06 am

      Boehner had Ryan do it last Friday night, dotster, but it’s clear that these freshmen teapublicans are bound and determined to “go rogue” on Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, McConnell, and any other member of the Republican Party in Congress. IMO, these people aren’t legislators, they’re anarchists who, if Allen West’s recent behavior is any indication of the mindset of this group, would not hesitate to use force to accomplish their goals and to silence anyone who dares to criticize them in any way. I would also place Bachmann in this group based on the recent behavior of her bodyguards toward a reporter who tried to get her to answer a question. She walked out of the venue rather than face the reporter to provide a answer to his question. Her bodyguards physically assaulted this reporter, and Bachmann was too chickensh*t to stick around, answer the question, and monitor their behavior. I don’t believe for one second that Bachmann was not aware of the fact that the people she hired as her bodyguards had no qualms about using violence against those who might challenge her in any way, including helping her to avoid responding to a question from a reporter on an issue that she doesn’t want to discuss. Bachmann reminds me of Angle, Palin, O’Donnell, Rand Paul, and others in the GOP who don’t feel an obligation to respond to questions they don’t want to answer, and who will allow others to intervene on their behalf while being fully aware of the propensity these people have to resort to using violence to rid themselves of any/all detractors.

  11. 25 Ladyhawke
    July 20, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    I have posted several times today on multiple blogs “WHO ELECTED GROVER NORQUIST”?. It’s nice to see NYT ask a similar question. This question should be blanketing the airwaves. The media is doing a disservice to the American people by not pointing this out. It goes to the heart of the problem we face today with the GOP. They have relinquished their judgement to Grover Norquist, someone who is not an elected official of the United States government (What oath did he take??) We are all paying the price for this madness. It is making a mockery of our democracy.


    The New York Times has a good editorial today on the proliferation of “pledges” Republican candidates, especially at the presidential level, are expected to sign and follow. It’s a good piece, but I’d take the argument just a little further.

    As the NYT editorial board explained, these GOP candidates are effectively “signing away the right to govern” and in the process, undermining “the basic principle of democratic government built on compromise and negotiation.”

    The oldest and most pernicious of these modern oaths was dreamed up by Grover Norquist, the leader of Americans for Tax Reform, who has managed to get 95 percent of all Republicans in Congress to pledge never to raise taxes for any reason. If they end tax deductions, Mr. Norquist’s pledge-takers say they will match the increase in revenue with further tax cuts.

    That pledge is the single biggest reason the federal government is now on the edge of default. Its signers will not allow revenues in a deal to raise the debt ceiling.

    Its success has now spawned dangerous offspring. There is the Susan B. Anthony pledge, in which candidates promise to appoint antiabortion cabinet officers and cut off federal financing to Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers. It has been signed by Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Tim Pawlenty and Rick Santorum. There is the cut, cap and balance pledge to gut the federal government by cutting and capping spending, and enacting a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution. It has been signed by all of the above candidates, plus Mitt Romney and Herman Cain.

    And there is the particularly bizarre Marriage Vow, in which candidates agree to oppose same-sex marriage, reject Shariah law and pledge personal fidelity to their spouse. Until it was changed after a public outcry, it also contained a line saying that a black child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by a two-parent family than a similar child raised in the Obama era. It was signed by Mr. Santorum and Mrs. Bachmann.

    I wholeheartedly agree with all of this. The pledges intend to put lawmakers in a governing straightjacket, locking them into positions before even being confronted with questions or circumstances. Our system is premised on the notion that there will be some give and take between institutions and factions; pledges intend to make that process impossible.


    • 26 PoliticalJunkessa
      July 20, 2011 at 4:35 pm

      These people are comfortable with authoritarian, cult-like thinking, that’s why they’re so comfortable with signing pledges. That’s why they’re teabaggers — they like black-and-white, top-down, no-questions-asked “solutions.” They’re not capable of thinking, processing, or problem-solving. They like to be given their worldviews and talking points to run with. They don’t understand freedom of thought. They can’t conceive of anything else. It would hurt their brains to consider another point of view.

      Thus, they need to be kept as far away as possible from governing. They’re simply not suited for it.

    • 27 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 5:03 pm

      Ladyhawke – thank you so much for both of those links (NYT link on Benen’s page.) it’s nice to see most of the comments are in agreement.

  12. 28 lmrj
    July 20, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    Is it within the DOJ’s jurisdiction to bring charges of treason to these idiots for trying to drive this country over the cliff and pledging to Norquist? If not DOJ, then who’s jurisdiction?

  13. 29 lisalovesobama
    July 20, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Hey guys………. {{{{{{SHHHHHHHHHH}}}}}}}}} I went over to BWD and stole this awesome link:


    which led to this article about the flummoxed pollsters:


    Most of the comments from this section are like: duh, the American people are realizing that the repugs are babies, PBO has always shown himself willing to work with others, etc.

    ps—so, ah….. don’t tell Ms. Chips about kleptomania okay? 😉

    • 30 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      Awesome links Lisa!!!! BRAVA!!

      • 31 COS
        July 20, 2011 at 5:31 pm

        This is really amazing. We can see how hard PBO works, and I think most folks can see what he is up against in Congress with the repugs and some of the conservadems. He just keep right on pushing no matter what he is confronted with.

    • 33 GGail
      July 20, 2011 at 6:39 pm

      Hahahaha Lisa, I was just about to post the SAME link from Smartypants. It’s a MUST read. 😀

      • 34 lisalovesobama
        July 20, 2011 at 6:49 pm

        tehe 😉 There’s an idiom that I’m thinking of but I can’t quite remember the beginning, something about minds thinking alike………..hm………. 💡 Great minds think alike! 🙂
        ps- okay, given the mental stall at the beginning of my response, in my case, great mind…… maybe not so much 😐 😉

  14. 35 PoliticalJunkessa
    July 20, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    I’ve never doubted that the debt ceiling would be raised. There’s just no other alternative. Been expecting a clean bill for some time now. All this other stuff is political theater. The Teapubs picked a fight, but like the master he is, PBO is using it to his advantage to expose the rightwing, coalesce his support, and educate the American people. You can see there’s a sea change going on.

    Good stuff.

    Obama 2012 😛 !

  15. July 20, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    Here’s my prediction – this Gang of 6/7 potential will be the impetus for a short debt ceiling extension. However August in a monthlong recess, so GOP Reps will say “Let me take this home to my town halls” and then Club for Growth, Americans for Prosperity and Kochroaches will astroturf townhalls, like they did in 2009, trying to flip the current polling.

    If there is a short term extension than Congress should stay in Washington and cancel the recess.

    • 37 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 4:42 pm

      I don’t see Obama settling for anything that doesn’t pay for everything that Congress has already budgeted – and that goes into the budget they already have to do for 2012 – which if they don’t they’ll really be kicked out come 11/12 because Obama and the Dems can pound them with it all the way to election day. And they’d look like idiots who can’t do math if they don’t.

      .. oh wait…

      Still – there are some people with brain stems in the room. Someone must have the vagina to point out to them they’re making them all look bad – right? Better for us if they don’t, but still…

      Even if there aren’t – CONGRESS SHALL ENFORCE.

      The saddest thing of all is WHY we have a debt ceiling in the first place, and the fact it was the foreign countries who were funding us during the Civil War who insisted on the 14th Amendment in the first place so America would never be a Freeloading Deadbeat Dad (which is exactly what the GOP wants to turn us into.)

  16. 38 Ladyhawke
    July 20, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    I am so proud of these senators.

    Senate Dems: GOP Cut, Cap, Kill Medicare Plan is Non-Starter

    Democratic Senators Chuck Schumer, Tom Harkin, Barbara Mikulski and Barbara Boxer warn that the House Republicans’ “Cut, Cap, and Balance” Act will be quickly defeated in the Senate.

    • 39 Ladyhawke
      July 20, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      Here is the full version news briefing. It’s 26 minutes and it’s terrific.


      Four Democratic senators spoke to reporters about the House Republican “Cut, Cap, and Balance” bill, which passed in the House the previous day. The senators said that the bill would dramatically alter Medicare and Social Security benefits. The legislation includes $111 billion in cuts to the 2013 budget, a cap on overall federal spending in future years, and requires Congress to pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution as a condition for raising the federal debt ceiling.


      • 40 tally
        July 20, 2011 at 5:29 pm

        YAY LINK!!!! Thank you!!!

        Cut Cap and KILL MEDICARE!


      • 41 tally
        July 20, 2011 at 5:41 pm

        OMG – Boxer just said DEADBEAT like three times!!!!

        I wonder if she’s read some of my posts….. 😀

        • 42 Ladyhawke
          July 20, 2011 at 5:53 pm

          Senator Mikulski does not mince words. When she got up on that little foot stool and bellowed out….”WHAT A SHAM, WHAT A SCAM”, I cracked up. She doesn’t take any guff from anybody. The woman is fierce.

          I still remember that press conference that the women senate Democrats gave during the budget crisis. It was the most remarkable display of advocacy that I have seen in a long time.

          • 43 majii
            July 21, 2011 at 12:33 am

            I’m not trying to toot our horns, Ladyhawke, but I believe that if you want to have a problem solved or to need to be told about being too full of yourself, let a woman take the lead. She’ll tell it like it is, and do it in the shortest and quickest way. I stumbled across an article in a Women’s Day magazine yesterday while waiting to be seen by my doctor, and I was surprised to see an article that discussed the many areas in which women outperform men. Included among the areas were driving, giving directions, financial planning, and negotiation. Maybe the men in Congress should let the women handle the negotiations. It might allow Congress to accomplish more than it is accomplishing now when mostly men are involved in the negotiation process.

        • 44 lisalovesobama
          July 20, 2011 at 6:03 pm

          “Deadbeat debtors”— watching Al sharpton’s show where he showed a clip of a democrat calling the Teapugs a cult of “deadbeat debtors” !!!! Fricking awesome. These Dems are getting on point with this catch phrases! 🙂

        • 45 HZ
          July 20, 2011 at 10:52 pm

          Tally, you never no. See what I mean. Brilliant.

      • 47 tally
        July 20, 2011 at 5:47 pm

        Who is the AWESOME woman next to Boxer?? Barbara M?? It’s her birthday! SHE IS FIERCE AND RIGHTEOUS!!!

        • 48 maggy519
          July 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm

          Barabara Mulkalsi (sp?) Maryland . I think she is the longest serving Senator currently in office.

      • 49 tally
        July 20, 2011 at 5:54 pm

        Senator Harkin is also on fire about the DEADBEAT DEBTORS!!!


        • 50 Ladyhawke
          July 20, 2011 at 6:04 pm

          Tell it Senator Harkin!!

          Don’t you love it that he is schooling the reporters about how we got into the mess. It’s not the Democrats holding the country hostage. All of the Democrats are on board to vote to raise the debt ceiling. The lazy reporters have a bad happen of trying say there is a pox on both sides.

          • 51 Ladyhawke
            July 20, 2011 at 6:37 pm

            Senator Harkin Republican Party has morphed into cult….. (Ouch)

            “The sad thing is America no longer has a two-party system,” Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said at a press conference Wednesday. “One of our two parties has morphed into kind of a cult driven by a singular fixation and obsession: preserving tax breaks for the wealthy at all costs.”

        • 52 HZ
          July 20, 2011 at 10:58 pm

          Yes, I love Sen. Mukulski. She is a ball of fire. Put Boxer and her together, you better call the firemen into the room. They do not play. She speaks her words loud and clear. No mess with Sen. Mukulski. That was a great news conference. Love it when they pull together and really call it like it really is in the room.

  17. July 20, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Tally, your analysis is brilliant. Can we recommend you as a replacement for Maddow? How refreshing would that be?? For many reasons, I’m hoping against hope that PBO gets a clean debt ceiling bill. Everything you say makes sense, which is why it may not happen. All this is an unnecessary drama, but, it will show our President to be the cool, intelligent leader that we know and love.

    • 54 HZ
      July 20, 2011 at 4:55 pm

      I concur BIGFan. I just read Tally’s post, and the two words that came out of my mouth were,”Brilliant Tally.” Then I read you comments. I read the article first, then I started from the bottom of the comments and there was your, BIGFan just after I repeated those two words above. Great idea. Tally, Chips, and BWD could have their own program. Now that would be fantastic. Cool, Clear, Concise. Love it. Thanks Tally.

      • 55 tally
        July 20, 2011 at 5:13 pm

        Tally, Chips, and BWD could have their own program.


        Educational and hilarious at the same time.

        We could invite Jon & Steven to come on and be our cabana boys occasionally. And of course be funny.

        😆 😆 😆

    • 56 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 4:57 pm


      I’m afraid that Maddow’s show producer would want to kill Princess Potty Mouth because he’d have to hire someone just to work the 7-second delay. 😀

      It would be fun to come on and be her straight-girl sidekick who could call her out when she’s pretending to be capable of time-travel to the future or have the Magic 8 Ball of Obama’s Brain™….

      …. and of course helps her make cocktails. 😆

      Except she and her wife would need to move to Burbank. I don’t do East Coast/New England NO MO. The five minutes I lived there was long enough. I need my Pacific, my desert, and my tumbleweeds!

      • 57 utaustinliberal
        July 20, 2011 at 5:11 pm

        I would love to see you as her straight-girl sidekick. I absolutely HATE when she does her snarky routine: either she whips out a magic 8 ball, or she uses some cartoon to represent her lame assertions of President Obama, or she does an unfunny comedy routine, or some stupid back and forth dialogue. Everytime she whips out her disinegenious card, I just want to yell “STFU!!!!!!” you’re not funny and frankly these days your show has no legs of credibility to stand on.

        • 58 tally
          July 20, 2011 at 5:15 pm

          I could say,

          “Hey Rache, too much time travel twists your brain.”


          “What color is the sky in the future?”

          • 59 lisalovesobama
            July 20, 2011 at 5:36 pm

            I would like to see you go head to head with her Tally!! Boy could you take her! I’d give my entire two cents to see that!!!!! 😆

            • 60 tally
              July 20, 2011 at 5:39 pm

              But I actually like her, I just want to shake away her anger (I think over DOMA and DADT) and clear her head.

              • 61 lisalovesobama
                July 20, 2011 at 6:38 pm

                No verbal sparring? No verbal bitchslaps? No twisting necks and snapping fingers and bad girl pouts. No ” guuuurl, you bets-ta recognize…” (?) Awwwwwwww {{{sigh/grumble}}} 😦 😦 😦 Taaaaaaallllyyyyyy!!!! {{{pout/ wide innocent eyes blinking furiously}}}

                • 62 tally
                  July 20, 2011 at 6:50 pm

                  OKAY LISA!!! You don’t have to pull our your Cute PussNBoots BIG EYES (from Shrek) face!!!! YOU KNOW I CANNOT RESIST THAT!!

                  Actually, that would be hilarious, me being a small 40+++++ white girl/cougar doing all that.


                  I’ll do damned near anything for a laugh. 😆

        • July 20, 2011 at 5:57 pm

          Tally, My Dear Tally, Girl I just want to say thank you so very much, for breaking this down, for People like me, who Is struggling trying to find out exactly what’s going on. Really, thank you Tally. I was reading and smiling the entire time as I read. That was Brilliant 🙂 🙂 I’m just getting Into politics since POB came along, and all before that, I wasn’t Interested as much, so I’m struggling a lot of time trying to figure things out. You are an eye opener. May God bless you real good, my Friend, and this comes from my heart 🙂

      • 65 HZ
        July 20, 2011 at 5:20 pm

        Tally, you are really brilliant. I sincerely mean that. You write so beautifully. Your thoughts are so clear and so intelligent and thoughtful, and you do not play with anyone when you give your commentary. You are a fighter. Oh, maybe we could get you elected to office. Now I can see you and Boxer shaking things up in the Senate. Just a thought to ponder. Thanks for all of your wonderful comments, Tally.

        • 66 tally
          July 20, 2011 at 5:28 pm

          Hmmm…. I can see the bumpersticker:



          …. but then I’d have to go to the humid east coast. 😥

          • 67 Fred
            July 20, 2011 at 5:53 pm

            Tally would kick asses all round and I’d pay $ to see that 😉

          • 68 HZ
            July 20, 2011 at 5:54 pm

            Tally, I forgot that point. But Tally, you could always ask Senator Boxer how she does it. I get excited when I read the different and outstanding comments on different issues being discussed on our site here and at BWD that I want to see some of you all get your own program so the masses can be informed in an intelligent, hopeful, problem-solving manner with our government practices. I am so elated just coming to our TOD and BWD family and seeing you all come up with great answers to issues that the msm , politicians(up to no good) making up stuff to make it more difficult to understand. You all are so smart, take no crap and are willing to move to bring about the change that people like our President is trying to do. I believe that we need to retire some of these tired pundits giving the young and older people their stale points of view. We need excellent and new blood in the government. Not the nuts that we have doing our business. I am going to still hope to see your name on some great stuff in the future. I like to encourage you all, Tally. I hope that I am not sticking my nose in your business. But you are terrific.

      • 70 Betsy
        July 20, 2011 at 11:25 pm

        So you’re a SoCal girl, so am I! LOL. I live south of LAX.

  18. 71 Anonymous
    July 20, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Tallllllllllly….is soooooooo on POINT…..Bless you!!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. July 20, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Sure enough! But what if he is pressured to do something big, will you hold it against him or still stand with him?

    • 73 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 5:53 pm

      I trust him. I also have a realistic view of TIME & SPACE – which is why I don’t think it will happen.

      However, for the sake of your question – I trust him.

      I also have faith that the Dems in the Senate will back him in what is the best for the country. Go watch that link that Ladyhawke posted:

  20. July 20, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    This argument that congress is having right now, is good for Romney? Well, yeah! He is able to keep pounding at the president, while the president has to do sausage making!
    The new ppp polling now has Romney tied.
    Btw: since seiu and kos funds ppp polling, they have been skewed to the right! Strange!

    • 75 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 6:03 pm

      Jovie – I’m sorry, but I don’t know what this comment is referring to. Is it another post? If so, which one…

      • July 20, 2011 at 6:16 pm

        While I hope you are correct, this sausage making is hurting the president, like it did during the hcr debate.
        You said the closer we get to the deadline tge stronger position the president has.
        Maybe on the deal on the debt, but the longer tge GOP drags this out tge better it is for Romney.

        Just looking at it from all angles! It behooves the president to put this behind him.

        • 77 tally
          July 20, 2011 at 6:23 pm

          I disagree. The longer this goes on, the more The HouseofCrazies™ gets to be center stage, and the more people get educated that the POTUS doesn’t act alone.

          • July 20, 2011 at 6:27 pm

            The longer this goes on, romneys attacks go un answered!
            We can agree to disagree!


            • 79 tally
              July 20, 2011 at 6:38 pm

              A lot of people disagree with me 😀 That’s why TheGods made Baskin Robbins – so everyone would be happy (except me, because they took away Chocolate Fudge – BASTARDS!!!) 😡

              Has Romney raised $87 million in a single quarter? He’s actually run out of donors because they’ve all topped out on their max donations already…..

              More importantly, what exactly has Romney said that doesn’t make him look pathetic? I’m really curious. I’m not much of a Romney jock sniffer, so there’s obviously plenty I’ve missed.

        • 82 tally
          July 20, 2011 at 6:27 pm

          Granted it’s going to make the EmoProgs even more Emo, but they’ll do that anyway. It’s what they DO.

          It’s breath and food for them. Nothing Obama does unless he personally appoints Hillary POTUS will EVER make them happy.

          Not. Ever.

          Time to cut the cord on that anchor.

    • 83 Me4obama
      July 20, 2011 at 6:13 pm

      NBC poll that came out yesterday has PBO 8 points ahead of Mittens.

      • July 20, 2011 at 6:19 pm

        Another point I made, since kos snd seiu has funded ppp the polling gas been to the right of even Rasmussen.

        • 85 maggy519
          July 20, 2011 at 8:14 pm

          Jovie plese calm down honey. Please.

        • 86 HZ
          July 20, 2011 at 10:49 pm

          Jovie, remember the President has his poll persons as well. Let’s not worry about the polls. Let’s put our energy into getting people registrered and then getting them to the polls. I too trust President Obama. He has not given me any reason yet, not to do so. Okay. We are going to be fine. We did elect a very , very smart person to be the President. He is working his behind off. Relax a little. We are going to make this. Mitten is no threat to President Obama as I see it now or even later. I am not worried about the record of Mitt standing up against President Barack Obama. He knows when to walk into a room, and he knows when to walk out of a room. Remember, President Obama reads everything as stated by Michelle, and Gates. They have said that he is more prepared than the people he is meeting with in a meeting. That is who he is. I really do believe that we will know when he is worried about any of these people running. He is doing what we elected him to do now, governing. Plus, no one called me to get my answers for their polls, so I know there are millions more out there who have not received the call.

          • 87 Tally
            July 20, 2011 at 11:41 pm

            I was going to say the same thing, NO ONE ASKED MEEEE.

            Which is why I asked for the link. Maybe Obama is tied with Mittens amoung GOP voters……. 😀

            I can’t find that poll, and I’ve looked.

  21. 88 lisalovesobama
    July 20, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Rev. Al is fricking awesome: you’re giving me talking points, tell me what’s in your plan…… hehehehehehehehe!!! 🙂 Damn!!! Rev Al is the bomb digidy!!! 😆

    • 89 utaustinliberal
      July 20, 2011 at 6:23 pm

      I just watched him decimate that republican congressman. He asked him three times: “Will you vote to raise the debt ceiling if it doesn’t have the cuts outlined in the Cut, Cap and Balance Act?” The dude kept dodging and dodging. It was freakin hilarious to watch him verbally twist himself into a pretzel.

      The CCB that passed in the house is an atrocious bill to say the least. It has more than a $111 billion in spending cuts, it cuts 20% of spending and benefits in SS, Medicare and Medicaid by 2021 and the really selfish and inhumane part is that it protects the uber wealthy by allowing them to keep all their tax cuts and tax breaks for the long term. John Paulson a hedge fund guy earned $4.9 billion in 2010 and is on record to earn more in 2011. Under the CCB passed in the house, Paulson gets to receive more money due to tax breaks; money which is separate from his income and could be divided to give 184,000 Americans a comfortable salary. This is their idea of shared sacrifice. It’s just disgusting. I’m glad Rev Al made sure to point out their complete and utter heartlessness.

    • 90 HZ
      July 20, 2011 at 11:02 pm

      Lisalovesobama, we need to take Rev. out for dinner. He was tearing them up today. He was the bomb tonight.

  22. 91 Fred
    July 20, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    West apologized to DWS 🙄

  23. 103 Bobfr
    July 20, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    Chipsticks, if you haven’t already read this insightful, cogent essay by Norbrook, I hope you will. It is relevant in so many ways. The final paragraph states:

    “The lesson is that fame does not give you influence or power. That’s just as true in a politics as it is in a hobby. Being the person who can be relied on to “get things done,” who shows up and works, helps out, and can deliver on their promises does. The “big name” bloggers who are solidly on the purity kick are complaining because they’re being ignored? That’s because they’re not really that famous, they haven’t done the work it takes on the ground – and no, blogging isn’t it – and they most certainly haven’t demonstrated any capability of delivering on their threats or promises. They can scream all they want about it, but it doesn’t change it. You see, the answer to their question “don’t you know who I am?” is “No, not a clue. Never heard of you.” And it drives them nuts.”

    Link: http://cendax.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/fame-fortune-and-power/

    Hope you are having much fun wherever you are!

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  24. 104 lisalovesobama
    July 20, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    oooooooooohhhhhh : ‘Cut Medicare, Cap Social Security and Balance the budget on the backs of the Middle class’ —– got the idea from Rev. Al’s Dem guest Rep. Schakowsky 🙂

    • 105 lisalovesobama
      July 20, 2011 at 6:16 pm

      So when Dems do their talking points it should go:
      “Repugs are talking about their CCB plan: Cut, Cap and Balance. They want to Cut medicare, Cap SS and Balance their budget on the backs of the Middle class.”

    • 106 Ladyhawke
      July 20, 2011 at 6:20 pm

      I love her, that’s a keeper. Brilliant framing.

  25. 107 Me4obama
    July 20, 2011 at 6:21 pm


    Cantors Wealthy Donors met with him and asked him to increase their TAXES.

    • 108 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 6:25 pm

      HFS BATMAN!!!!

      I just looked outside, and pigs are not flying. I repeat! PIGS ARE NOT FLYING!!!

      color me shocked.

      • 109 Me4obama
        July 20, 2011 at 6:27 pm

        😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 I think they are flying.

        • 110 utaustinliberal
          July 20, 2011 at 6:36 pm

          This just proves to me that wall street and big business are freaked out about the republican party that is in congress. They see these idiots taking us to the brink of desruction and now they realize they’re not dealing with sane people. A majority of uber wealthy individuals I’ve seen on tv have said “Raise my taxes. It is unfair for me to pay less taxes than a teacher because of several shady loopholes.” Yet Cantor and his ilk will never listen. I can’t believe Cantor told his rich friends that the tax breaks the GOP passed are to put more money back into a middleclass individual’s pocket. You know, because to Cantor, someone who earns billions of dollars is “middleclass.”

          • 111 majii
            July 21, 2011 at 1:15 am

            I must admit to enjoying quite a few frissons of pleasure, ut, in knowing that Wall Streeters put their money into electing a bunch of teapublicans that they were so sure they could control the way they have been able to control Boehner, Cantor, McConnell, and other republicans. They had no idea that they helped to elect people to Congress who have given them nightmares like they’ve never experienced before. They thought PBO was their biggest enemy because he wants to make sure they are not allowed to run over the little people and are held accountable for their actions. The behavior of the teapublicans on raising the debt limit make complying with the terms of the Dodd/Frank Financial Reform Law look like a walk through the park on a sunny day for the Wall Streeters. Having to comply to the terms of Dodd/Frank should have been the least of their worries. D/F may give them headaches from time to time, but it would never have as its primary goal the total destruction of the American financial system. I have wondered how many of the Wall Streeters have been calling the WH trying to get their so-called sworn enemy’s assistance in trying to avoid a second collapse of our financial system in less than 3 years. it’s funny how things work out sometime. Some of PBO’s main detractors having to come crawling to him, begging for his assistance puts a smile on my face. They bet on the wrong horse in this contest. When they were running misleading ads on radio and TV and going to Fox and other networks to smear PBO, it never occurred to them that in less than a year, they’d be groveling at the feet of the very man they described as evil incarnate. Cantor described a vote by republicans to raise the debt ceiling as an “existential threat” to the GOP, but the reality is that the GOP is a very real, and palatable, existential threat to Wall Streeters.

    • 112 lisalovesobama
      July 20, 2011 at 6:30 pm

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Of course Little Lord Pain in the Ass will just ignore them 🙄 The Teapower has gone to his fool head. 😕

  26. 113 Me4obama
    July 20, 2011 at 6:25 pm


    It’s OFFICIAL Cenk is out of Msnbc. Good radiance.

    • 114 utaustinliberal
      July 20, 2011 at 6:31 pm

      Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀

    • 115 nintendowii10
      July 20, 2011 at 6:31 pm

      I knew he wouldn’t last long. Rev Al is superior because he calls out the bullshit from the RW and PL, whereas Uygar just bashed the President every single day. Good riddance to rubbish,

    • 116 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 6:33 pm

      EPIC WIN.

      Al gets a show, and can have Chips, BWD, and ME on as his Sassy Bitches Possé!!! And we can explain to all of America how Hal Sparks is right that we have Balls and Pussy completely reversed as to which one is the stronger genitalia.

      …. actually, we need to be on HBO. Never mind.

    • 119 Doris
      July 20, 2011 at 6:43 pm

      Goodbye. Hope we don’t see ya anytime soon. 😀

    • July 20, 2011 at 6:44 pm

      I posted this thought on another thread but it speaks to what cenk and the other frustratis want from our president..

      I guess Allan West “Angry Blackman act” is what the PL expect from the president.

    • 121 QuietObserver
      July 20, 2011 at 6:46 pm

      So he refused another time slot? That tells me one of 2 things: either he realizes that he’s not cut out for hosting a TV news show or he thinks he’ll get a better offer somewhere else (even if it’s back on his internet show). And let me say this- I used to be a big fan of The Young Turks a few years ago. I would tune in whenever I could and would podcast the show daily. I realized back then that Cenk was a bloviator with an attack-dog attitude and a…less than perceptive personality. But he was usually entertaining when he went off on his tangents. He seemed to fall in love with Obama and everything he said/did prior to, well, his inauguration. I wish I still had the podcasts of Cenk praising Geitner and the Wall Street response to his nomination back in late 2008… Anyway, when the show started lobbying for a TV gig on MSNBC, I became worried that even if they got it, the style of the show wouldn’t translate well. Seems like the harder he begged for the TV show, the more cynical and critical his internet show got. I began to get turned off by Cenk’s increasingly negative and pompous attitude (about stuff not even necessarily related to politics) by the summer of ’09, but I stuck it out. By mid 2010, he was unbearable. I dropped TYT and never looked back.

      • 122 ChristiMtl
        July 20, 2011 at 7:05 pm

        Why would he refused another time slot? I doesn’t make any sense..

        I used to be a big fan of The Young Turks as well, a big fan of Maddow and The Daily Show.

        It was before the mask fell off. I realized they were just corporate tools like the rest of them, no integrity.

    • July 20, 2011 at 7:07 pm

      Uyger is out of Msnbc. Hooray, I would do a flap if I could. But I better stick with the hip hip hooray.

    • 124 majii
      July 21, 2011 at 1:25 am

      Great news, M4O,

      I never understood why MSNBC hired the blowhard in the first place. I don’t have a crystal ball, but I could have told the network executives that they were making a big mistake in hiring his RoyalAzzturdness. I’m glad that MSNBC finally decided to take their trash to the nearest curb for pickup and disposal, and I hope Ed is the next pile of trash scheduled for pickup and disposal.

  27. 125 nintendowii10
    July 20, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Let me play a tune on the world’s smallest violin for Cenk Uygar…

    To quote the Terminator: “Hasta la vista, baby.”

  28. 127 louc1
    July 20, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Yeah Rev Al – I’m loving it – feels like the tide is turning! Lawrence speaking truth most of the time lately – Rev Al definitely on PBO’s side – PBO’s poll numbers looking so good – Gallup is confused (LOL) WOW WOW WOW!! And I am loving what Tally’s post is saying!

  29. 129 nintendowii10
    July 20, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    I’m reading all of the comments over at HuffNPuff over Cenk Uygar being given the boot. Good lord, they worship Uygar as a god, just like Olbermann.

    They keep saying MSNBC is digging a grave… well Current TV is nothing to brag about, seeing as many people don’t have Current and unless I’m wrong, Keith’s ratings suck WORSE than when he was on MSNBC.

    Hiring Rev Al was a smart move. He has POTUS back and is calling out the BS from the RW and PL. Plus if you want a radical loudmouth who bashes the President, there’s Ed Shultz, so why keep Uygar?

    And the fact that Rev Al’s ratings are higher than Uygar’s is point proof of who is the winner. He actually plays hardball and exposes the lies of the RW and PL.

    Good on MSNBC to show Uygar the door, he won’t be missed. Let these PL folks cry a river just like they did with Keith. Larry O and Rev Al both get it, good on them both.

    • July 20, 2011 at 7:01 pm

      No Uyer won’t be miss. Plus Obama supporters will turn in to watch Rev. Al. We are tired of Rachel and that loud mouth Ed.

    • 131 mtmarilyn
      July 20, 2011 at 7:03 pm

      I agree with you nintendowii10, I am so glad Rev Al has a chance. I admire you for braving huff&puff. At first I wasn’t real sure about Rev Al, but the subing he did before this chance really showed he can do it. I am watching.

      • 132 nintendowii10
        July 20, 2011 at 7:13 pm

        I just hit their website to see if there’s an article on Uygar being given the boot… the only one I could find over there was a thread asking if Rev Al was going to be replacing Uygar. And yeah, the comments over there reeked of fanaticism. “We want Cenk back!” and comments bashing Rev Al, just like what happened with Keith, and how they bashed Larry O for taking Keith’s old timeslot.

        It’s disgusting how folks can worship these PL hacks. I mean, Uygar didn’t even last seven months on teevee, yet these HuffnPuff posters think he, Olbermann, Maddow, Shultz, Hamsandwich, Greenwald are saints. These PL folks are finally getting the message that they are actually a vocal minority, and that their poutrage isn’t wanted at the adults table.

        Like I said, let them whine over Uygar’s departure. They’ll get over it, just like with Keith. I’m just glad I never watched a single episode of Uygar, so I can’t say I’ll miss him (not that I would even if I did, just reading about his show from people here who did tune in).

        • 133 COS
          July 20, 2011 at 7:19 pm

          They need to realize that there are a number of us who did not give Cenk the time of day, and we will tune in to watch Rev. Al. If Cenk was that great, why was his ratings so low? I am going to keep watching and recording Rev. Al, even if I don’t get a chance to watch him everyday. I want him to be successful in this slot.

        • 134 majii
          July 21, 2011 at 1:47 am

          Great comment, Nintendo!

          These are the same tools who deified Weiner and grieved for him even after they discovered that he had been lying every step of the way. Their lack of strong, enduring principles on which they can rely has provided some insight to me as to why they hate everything PBO says/does. They so remind me of the tea partiers who also seem to lack strong, enduring principles . This flaw makes left and right-wing tools easy prey for any shark that comes along that knows how to use words to trigger the primeval, reptilian part of their brains. The sharks can convince their prey to accept anything they say as the only accurate, and reliable, interpretation of issues, policies, the motivations of others, events, etc.

    • July 20, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      From a business perspective I’d fire whoever is president of MSNBC. I mean he has a helluva horrid business model – 90% of Democrats support the President, so lets appeal to the 10% who think he’s too moderate with personal attacks and hyperbole so that the 90% would never watch, and given Republicans will never watch MSNBC, let’s limit out target to 2-3% of the population that a station like this would appeal to.

      • 136 nintendowii10
        July 20, 2011 at 7:27 pm

        Well, to Phil Griffin’s credit, he did get rid of Keith, and did muzzle Morning Schmoe and Ed Shultz when they ran their mouths, as well as suspending Mark the dick Halprin.

        I see where you’re coming from. Griffin needs to get rid of Ed Shultz and Rachel Maddow, most mainstream Americans could care less what either have to say. At least Rev Al is a civil rights activist, and Larry O has actual Congressional experience. The other PL hacks just bloviate from the sidelines.

      • 137 QuietObserver
        July 20, 2011 at 7:40 pm

        The problem is that the cable news culture sees the success of the rabid, angry “Tea Party” creation, and now feel the need to emulate it in every situation. So they will target the ‘angry opposition’ regardless of what the majority thinks. Sensationalism sell above all else; content doesn’t have to be true.

  30. 139 desertflower
    July 20, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    The TEA Potty Twitter debate….with all the “wonderful” Tweets!http://140townhall.com/

  31. July 20, 2011 at 7:03 pm


    Recovery act blog. I did not even know they had this blog.

  32. July 20, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Update: they are planning on going with a short term hike to the nations debt and then hash out the gang of six proposal:


    • 143 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 7:45 pm

      Jovie – are you from the future? Because all this article says is THE GOP are TALKING ABOUT IT. Nothing states it’s happened yet.

      Just sayin……

      your post is a bit misleading.

    • July 20, 2011 at 10:34 pm

      Oh Jovie……how many times have I asked you not to post links to GOP propaganda on GOPolitico?? All that stuff is blocked from now on, we just don’t want that crap here, we know where to go if we want to read it. If you want to carry on posting your other great links that’d be great, I’ll release them from pending as soon as I see them!

  33. July 20, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Fantastic post. Tally. Thanks

  34. July 20, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Rev Al made a statement in his speech defending the president when he said something to the fact “That most of those criticizing this president sit in their ivory towers taking pot shots, where as this presidents has worked on the ground in the trenches where none of them would dare to go”!

    I think he hung that picture of “Ruby” because he’s smart enough to realize that there is for certain a enemy on the right that hate him becasue of his color…….but he also smart enough to realize that there is a enemy on the left that is just as insidious.

    I am predicting that the president will have a “Come to Jesus moment” with those on the left that have dogged him since taking office, and i see this moment coming in his second term……..and people it will be a thing of beauty that will go down in the history books.

    • July 20, 2011 at 11:26 pm

      bjw2, I think that you have a great point here. I also felt that the President knows that he can use in a brilliant manner this painting to try to speak to the issues of the heart of the people that he deals with daily in a profound manner with a statement of this magnitude which that particular paints states so vividly. Remember the name of the painting is “The Problem We All Live With.” And look at the painting very closely. By choosing that particular one, he is preaching a first term sermon. Wait until we re-elect him and Joe in 2012. He is going to bring out the choir, the elders, the deacons, and we are going to have a Come To Jesus moment that they have NEVER heard of seen in their life. When you try or place your foot on a person’s neck and try to hold them down, remember you are holding yourself back also because as long as you stand there with your feet on that person’s neck, you can’t move any further either because you have to stand there with your foot . No movement/progress for either one.

  35. July 20, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    From my twitter timeline:

    Right between the eyes..!! LMAO..!! RT @ALLSEAN: Cenk Uygur Out At MSNBC http://bit.ly/r8aBCn via @nikkifinke #FDLFail #p2 #news

  36. 156 meta
    July 20, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    A GOP aide says don’t expect public comments from Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader McConnell’s office about today’s White House meeting.


    • 157 utaustinliberal
      July 20, 2011 at 7:26 pm

      Haha. It was on the news today that President Obama said it would be a closed door session, so no press was allowed to take pictures and ask questions before the session began and he also told every congressional leader he would be meeting not to discuss the pertinent facts and outcomes of the session because there have been too many leaks to the press and republicans have been twisting the facts on what actually takes place in the closed door sessions. Let’s hope they act like adults and zip their mouths shut.

      • 158 tally
        July 20, 2011 at 7:53 pm

        Maybe he was saying, “Princess Potty Mouth says you should all be tried for Sedition for anointing King Norquist, and I agree with her.”

        😆 😆 😆

      • July 20, 2011 at 11:37 pm

        We really know who is, who can be, and who has all along been the real serious adult in charge in the room.

    • 160 majii
      July 21, 2011 at 2:40 am

      I was very happy to see that Eric Cantor, who is one of the biggest bullies in the GOP, got PBO’s message after he lied about the president leaving a meeting in an angry mood last week. When PBO asked him whether he was negotiating with him or Boehner, he was basically telling Cantor to not be F*cking around with him, and that he is NOT the man Cantor should even entertain as a choice of a target to use his bullying tactics on. Many who attended the meeting on the following day reported that Cantor didn’t open his d@mn mouth, not even one time. Cantor thinks that he is the biggest baddest dog in D.C., but he is wrong. The biggest, baddest dog in D.C. rescued our fellow citizens from the grasp of Somali pirates, issued orders to rid the world of OBL and succeeded, stood against all comers to announce that the DOJ would stop defending DOMA, stood up to the republicans in Congress and succeeded in repealing DADT, had the steely nerve necessary to trash the Ryan budget in front of Ryan who had a seat in the front row, dissed Donald Trump to his face at the Correspondents’ Dinner to a point where his ears were blowing out so much steam that The Chump couldn’t see straight as he made a quick exit from the event, sent a big F-U message to his detractors in Congress and to his detractors in the country and decided to help save the lives of millions of Libyans because it was the right thing to do. These are just a few of the things PBO has done, and I feel fairly certain that Cantor would never have had the courage of his convictions were he POTUS to take a stand on these issues because he would have been too afraid of the political fallout that may have occurred. He’s a wimp of the first order who is able to bluster effectively, but who collapses into a depressive tear-filled state the first time someone calls him out on his BS.

  37. 161 Brian
    July 20, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Thanks for giving me more hope on all of this. On your thoughts of achieving a clean bill, all I can say is “From your mouth to God’s ear.”

    The heat’s making me crabby, but I just have a hard time lately believing that these House Republicans will ever do the right thing. During the health care debate, I began to think that it was impossible to be both Christian and Republican. Now I’m beginning to think that you can’t be both a patriot and Republican.

  38. July 20, 2011 at 7:28 pm


    Thanks to the recovery act- native Americans learning computer skills.
    The president has done more for native Americans than any other president. True story!

  39. July 20, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Hi everybody and Chipsticks.

    Just popping in to say hi and to say that President Obama is going to get the job done.

    i was on yahoo just a while ago and while President Obama is being the only adult in the room others are carrying stories like this:


    and this:


    • July 20, 2011 at 7:47 pm

      LOL, Donna.

      These people crack me up.

      As if the people in the UK don’t have a big scandal they are dealing with. Funny people, really funny.

      The GOP has long been looking for a scandal to attach to this president. They will have to keep looking harder. And long after he’s left the White House six or seven years from now, they will still be looking. He, hehehehehehehe.

      The room where the video was filmed, from the little bit I read, is part of the PBO’s residence. Go figure.

      They need to be trying to work on all those pledges they are signing to Grover Norquist, instead of the government of the United States.

    • 166 tally
      July 20, 2011 at 7:56 pm

      EVERYONE who drives in London during certain hours PAYS THOSE FEES.



    • July 20, 2011 at 11:53 pm

      You know the RNC Chairman, little Mr. Priebus needs to attend to that rude, low information group that he is in charge of. I think that he has enough crap to keep him busy without trying to waste Attorney General Holder’s time with this mess. President Obama is no idiot. Let’s move on to more important things. These people are so full of it, and they are trying to find anything to try to bring down this President. Not going to happen.

    • 168 Betsy
      July 21, 2011 at 12:15 am

      Read some of the comments on the motorcade story and it was funny to read that if the London embassy in NYC would pay their tickets first, maybe we’d pay ours. LOL. It was awesome.

      • 169 Titti
        July 21, 2011 at 7:42 am

        Very few (if any – maybe Switzerland) embassies pay the congestion charge and the oaf of a mayor was gonna bring it up with PBO during the Queen’s dinner – he is such an azz.

  40. July 20, 2011 at 7:35 pm


    To the left
    To the left

    Mmmm to the left, to the left
    Everything you own in the box to the left
    In the closet, that’s my stuff
    Yes, if I bought it, baby, please don’t touch (don’t touch)

    And keep talking that mess, thats fine
    Could you walk and talk, at the same time?
    And it’s my name thats on that jag
    So go move your bags, let me call you a cab

    Standing in the front yard, telling me
    How I’m such a fool, talking ’bout
    How I’ll never ever find a man like you
    You got me twisted

    You must not know ’bout me
    You must not know ’bout me
    I can have another you in a minute
    Matter fact, he’ll be here in a minute (baby)

    You must not know ’bout me
    You must not know ’bout me
    I can have another you by tomorrow
    So don’t you ever for a second get to thinkin’
    You’re irreplaceable?

    So go ahead and get gone
    Call up that chick, and see if shes home
    Oops I bet you thought, that I didn’t know
    What did you think
    I was putting you out for?
    Because you was untrue
    Rolling her around in the car that I bought you
    Baby, drop them keys
    Hurry up, before your taxi leaves

    Standing in the front yard, telling me
    How I’m such a fool, talking ’bout
    How I’ll never ever find a man like you
    You got me twisted

    You must not know ’bout me
    You must not know ’bout me
    I can have another you in a minute
    Matter fact, he’ll be here in a minute (baby)

    You must not know ’bout me
    You must not know ’bout me
    I will have another you by tomorrow
    So don’t you ever for a second get to thinkin’
    You’re irreplaceable (irreplaceable)?

    So since I’m not your everything (irreplaceable)
    How about I’ll be nothing (nothing)? Nothing at all to you (nothing, nothing)
    Baby I won’t shed a tear for you (I won’t shed a tear for you)
    I won’t lose a wink of sleep (a wink of sleep)
    ‘Cause the truth of the matter is (truth is)
    Replacing you is so easy

    To the left, to the left.
    To the left, to the left.
    To the left, to the left.
    Everything you own in the box to the left

    To the left, to the left.
    Don’t you ever for a second get to thinking
    You’re irreplaceable?

    You must not know ’bout me
    You must not know ’bout me
    I can have another you in a minute
    Matter fact, he’ll be here in a minute (baby)

    You must not know ’bout me
    You must not know ’bout me
    I can have another you by tomorrow
    So don’t you ever for a second get to thinkin’?
    You must not know ’bout me (baby)
    You must not know ’bout me
    I can have another you in a minute
    Matter fact, he’ll be here in a minute

    You can pack all your bags we’re finished (you must not know ’bout me)
    ‘Cause you made your bed now lay in it (you must not know ’bout me)
    I could have another you by tomorrow
    Don’t you ever for a second get to thinkin’
    You’re irreplaceable?

  41. July 20, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Al Sharpton has what none of the other pundits have and that’s on the ground activist experience. So people like Cenk, Ed, Keith and others can only talk the talk while Rev Al has Walked the Walk.

    People what we have in Al Sharpton is a man who knows what he’s talking about.

    I’m beginning to really hate these elitists s.o.b.s.

    • 172 nintendowii10
      July 20, 2011 at 7:41 pm

      Don’t forget, Larry O also has Congressional experience. Larry O and Rev Al both get it, while the other PL hacks bloviate from the outside.

      I’ll never forget Keith O saying that he doesn’t vote, yet he donated money to two Arizona Dems… extremely hypocritical. Ed is a pompous loudmouth, Maddow is mad because her hero Weiner is gone and she won’t get over it, and Uygar… other than The Young Turks, what was his claim to fame?

  42. 173 tally
    July 20, 2011 at 7:51 pm




  43. July 20, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Tavis and Corny must be just SICK right now! 😆 😆 😆

  44. 178 Me4obama
    July 20, 2011 at 8:01 pm


    Michelle Obama made a BIG f**kin DEAL today and yet it’s attacked by the AFLCIO . Poor people in food deserts are going to be helped who now have NO access to Fruits and Vegetables and JOBS will be created in these neighborhoods.

  45. 180 nintendowii10
    July 20, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Larry O defending PBO right now!

    • 181 nintendowii10
      July 20, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      David Frum (Bush speechwriter) actually sounding reasonable, why can’t we get more Republicans like him?

    • July 20, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      I’m watching LOD. He’s his usual intense self….I love him but sometimes he gets ahead of himself. Imma need him to simmer down on what he just KNOWS is in PBO’s head. Bless his heart.

  46. July 20, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Huh. I’m really quite shocked, Tally. I’ve just read 137 comments and not one person has proposed marriage to you for your wonderful blog post. Weird.

  47. 187 Me4obama
    July 20, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Tally belongs to Chris Christie and Mankin is in line waiting, that’s why no one has Proposed marriage to her yet 😆 😆 😆 😆

    • 188 utaustinliberal
      July 20, 2011 at 8:32 pm

      Hahahahaha…… ok Tally, Tien Le is calling us out for not proposing marriage to you for your epic braingasm of a commentary similar to Bobfr’s a while back. So let me just say if i was gay or bisexual chica, I’d marry you in a heartbeat and write sonnets that would make Shakespeare jealous. But since I can’t do that let me just say that if I was in Cali, I’D FUCKS WITH YA! Translation: If I was in Cali I’d love to hang out with you, shoot the breeze, have some drinks and cuss up a storm….. lol 😉 😆

    • 191 Tally
      July 20, 2011 at 9:31 pm

      I actually, I hear Mr. Clooney is newly single. And Gerry Butler looks awesome in full Highland Dress (as does Kevin McKidd – but he’s married 😥 ) (Here, let me remove that sporran.)

      Lemmeee see……. who else……. Vin Diesel – yup. Of course Taye Diggs is married. 🙄 I iz disapoint. Antonio Banderas too…. lucky Melanie…

      *sits like Pooh and taps head…… think think think

      Ray Stevens would be nice. Michael Fassbender is yummy, Jason Momoa too….. Avery Brooks just has to talk and I melt…. soo many gorgeous MEN!!!

      • 192 Tally
        July 20, 2011 at 9:36 pm

        Oh, and my two WCBFs: Zidane (married) & Forlán (supermodel GF)

        …….. you guys think Mr Clooney might be able to keep up with me politically? 😀

        • July 21, 2011 at 12:13 am

          Tally, I think that you and Mr. George Clooney could make some terrific political love conversations. All nighters too. I can just see the two of you on a summber evening at dinner at one of the swanky restaurants in L.A. Shall we make arrangements with his agent? But you have to promise to invite all of us to the wedding. Oh, and make sure that the date is after we re-elect President Obama.

          • 194 Tally
            July 21, 2011 at 1:02 am

            hmm…. I’m not sure even *I* could get him to wedding-up…. 😆 as fabulous as I AM.

            But I could give him a great…. all-nighter… a good Cali Cabernet, and single malt included. 😀

          • 195 Tally
            July 21, 2011 at 1:06 am

            And yes… could you please arrange that for me??

            😀 😀 😀

  48. 196 ChristiMtl
    July 20, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Tally you’re very talented! I wish I could express myself as well as you do. I love reading your posts.

  49. 197 Kasai
    July 20, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Thank you…Thank you Tally….Wow!!!! so glad that we have your voice!!!!

    Power to the People…………….Tally you’re SIMPLY AWESOME:-)

  50. 198 Kasai
    July 20, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Last night I was watching Ed…and sent him a tweet that read” LOL he blocked me

    @WegotED Since you seem to know, What/When/HOW/Where PBO is gonna do, Will you let me know what He will be having for dinner tomorrow night??
    Text A___Physico TextB_________Talk

    • 199 nintendowii10
      July 20, 2011 at 8:49 pm

      I guess Ed doesn’t like the truth being unveiled in his face… he is really a Republican pushing for Obama to be defeated. I hope MSNBC cuts him next, then he can go to Current TV with Keith and Cenk, where no one will hear them bloviate every single day.

    • July 20, 2011 at 8:49 pm

      I guess the big man is nothing but a coward. He can dish it out, but cannot take it. Sounds like a Republican to me.

      • July 21, 2011 at 12:19 am

        The meds need to be brought in for Ed. He is so loud, and rude too many times for me also. He does not know where he stands with the President, and I find that rather disturbing. Hopefully, Ed will find himself when we re-elect President Barack Obama in 2012.

        • 202 majii
          July 21, 2011 at 3:04 am

          The reason he doesn’t know where he “stands” where PBO is concerned is because his main reason for hosting a program on a national network seems to be to show the world how big of an attention-seeking azzz he is. His avoidance of the truth and very obvious facts that exist about PBO’s accomplishments and work ethics tell me that Ed’s primary interest is Ed, and that he’ll stoop to any level to elevate his status, increase his ratings, create a reliable income stream for MSNBC, try to remain relevant, and filling his bank accounts with loads of cash. His perfect place of employment would be that of a news entertainer at Fox News. He’d fit right in with Doocy, Hannity, Palin, O’Reilly,and the rest of the nuts there who make lots of money by using their ability to lie to their viewers while having big grins on their faces.

    • 203 utaustinliberal
      July 20, 2011 at 8:51 pm

      Hahahahaha Kasai. Good one. He’s so thin skinned. I can’t believe he blocked you. He can dish it out but can’t take it; the blowhard. Yesterday, twitter was all atwitter with how particularly annoying Ed was yesterday. Even Bob Cesca who had dvr’d his show asked people on twitter if he should bother watching, and everyone said no, because who the heck needs that kind of stress late at night. He’s such a fool.

      • 204 ChristiMtl
        July 20, 2011 at 8:58 pm

        I like Bob Cesca, I read his blog daily

        I’m surprised Ed Shultz blocked you just for that! I don’t know how many angry tweets I sent him.

        To date, only Joan Walsh blocked me.

  51. 205 halo.
    July 20, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    I actually think Obama wants a deal on the debt. Maybe not before the debt ceiling bill since there’s no time, but def. afterwards.

  52. 206 Kasai
    July 20, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    LOL…He does have thin skin..because i heard he blocked someone else too.

    Then when i saw he had the nerve to have Hamsher and calling her the voice of the Liberals, and let her badmouth PBO. I went off and blasted another tweet.

    We Got ED = (Enormous Distraction)….Hamster a liberal voice really??? Is like calling A Teaparty a Progressive

    LOL… I am banned for life now…hehehehe

    • 207 nintendowii10
      July 20, 2011 at 8:57 pm

      and these far left kooks wonder why they are not allowed a seat at the adults’ table… sorry, if you want to have temper tantrums, you can join the kids and cry in the sandbox while we adults actually do our best to get things done.

      Ed Shultz can bugger off, along with Hamsandwich. Both are closet Republicans with massive egos.

  53. 208 LunarSea
    July 20, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Finally sitting down to relax after a long day and checking in on one of my favorite online communities, catching up on what I missed today and all I can say is {{{{{{{group hug}}}}}}} to you all.

    Things are looking good and as long as we don’t give in to the cynicism and hatred and fear, we’re going to be alright. And by ‘we’ I mean America.

    I see what PBO sees, which are mostly good, honest, caring Americans who just want a fair shake and a chance at ‘the dream’. Try as they may to divide us, in the end most of us know we are all in this together.

    I love hearing about the Republicans for Obama and Millionaires for Tax Increase, the Anti-bullying ‘It gets better’ brigade, former Republican elected officials speaking out against the hyper-partisanship, mid-western farmers, city slickers, all of us love this country. We may disagree about how to do it, but most of us want to preserve this country at all costs and do NOT like the attempts at destruction we are witnessing.

    I am confident that once we get through these growing pains, we will emerge stronger and more united than we, as a country, have been in quite some time.

    Oh, and yes, I will be a voter. 😆

  54. 209 Kasai
    July 20, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    LOL Uta..he must have been pissed off…because lots and lost of people were tweeting him about having Hamster…I wish I knew how to send him that stat that Chip had…so that he can see what she’s all about, knowing Ed, he might ask her, if he can also be on her payroll,
    As far as I am concerned He and other alike, own the loss of the 2010 Primaries, for telling people NOT TO VOTE, so that we teach them a lesson…How ironic, that’s he’s been covering WI Union Busting, something he produced around the country…So Yes You didn’t help the working people, you were the cause of the laws being passed (planned parenthood, id voter registration, cuts in social services) I can go on and on…SO HOW;S THAT WORKING OUT FOR YOU???YOU WROTE THE SCRIPT…PRODUCED IT….AND HAS BEEN PLAYING IN A THEATER NEAR YOU.

  55. 210 Anonymous
    July 20, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    OT: YAY!!! Hey Paula and Nasty Simon are reunited!!!!!! Watch out X-Factor, I’ll be seeing you come september!! Hehe! 🙂 🙂 😆

  56. 211 LunarSea
    July 20, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    OMG I just came back from taking a peek at the republican twitter town hall page and I am roflmao. Got to wonder why they called it a town hall. The little I was able to stomach was them taking turns posting how great they were, how awful PBO is and what website to visit to view, first hand, their personal propaganda.

    They are sooo non-creative. Even when they try to adopt PBO’s awesomeness. I mean he laid out the blue print and they still couldn’t copy it satisfactorily. Color BETWEEN the lines, kiddies.

    They’re so anti-climatic. LMAO at their ineptness.

    ‘They have been weighed. They have been measured. And they have been found wanting.’ -A Knight’s Tale

  57. 212 GOVCHRIS1988
    July 20, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Here’s my tribute to the former 6 PM Host Cenk Uygur.

  58. July 20, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Just thought you would like to know that one Mr Tavis not so Smiley is on CNN’s Piers Morgan spinning his yarn on poverty, and talking about his new book!

    • 215 EDP4BHO
      July 20, 2011 at 10:01 pm

      Talking about his new book? That’s his claim to fame…..how many books he can sell. Well, I think his time is running low because he is not that interesting anymore. Tavis Smiley the Bookseller……sheesh !

  59. 216 Kasai
    July 20, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    LOL GOV….Right On…thanks for the fitting video…

    Oh Yea..Tavis and West just announced they are going to do “A Poverty Tour”….hmmmmmmm
    he also told Morgan that PBO never mentions poverty…something to that effect…to me it’s more like a “Bash-Obama-Sell-A-Book” tour.

    • July 21, 2011 at 12:34 am

      Kasai, did he say what the hell is “A Poverty Tour?” What good is that going to do for those who are living in poverty? Why hasn’t Mr. Tav and Dr. Corn performed this duty before. What the heck will that do to help people in poverty. What he should do is sell the book and then take the trip and leave the money and stay their and help the people out of poverty. What the hell is he talking about. I have worked with people in deep deep need, and they do not need you taking a tour in their community. They need you to show up with a plan to help them build up the places for a better place. These fools are crazy.

    • 219 Dudette
      July 21, 2011 at 12:45 am

      Why dion’t they just call it what it really is? — “The Tavis and Corny don’t want to be poor, so let’s make shit up about the President, cuz that’s where the money is Tour”. They should have t-shirts made.

  60. 220 Kasai
    July 20, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    *meant to say Tavis said of “PBO never mentions the word poverty”

    • 221 Betsy
      July 21, 2011 at 12:38 am

      That’s because he’s trying, everyday, to bring more people into the middle class. He knows about poverty as he was actually a community organizer helping people get help in their poor circumstances. Has Smiley ever been a community organizer? I wonder.

  61. 222 Dudette
    July 21, 2011 at 12:57 am

    Tally for Press Secretary !! You rock!!

    • 223 Tally
      July 21, 2011 at 1:31 am

      Thank you for the vote of confidence!!!


      I’m afraid Princess Potty Mouth would never come near the Epic Jedi Patience Mastery of Jay Carney!

      I’d probably blurt out, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???? Then I’d do my best Diane Weist impersonation – DON’T SPEAK!!!

  62. 224 Dudette
    July 21, 2011 at 7:00 am

    Not to knock the venerable Mr. Carney, but he’s gonna want to move on to something else at some point. Plus a few choice AYFKM’s would spice things up very nicely. Definitiely would get some of the sheeple out there to wake up and pay attention. 🙂

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