Thank you soooooo much everyone for keeping the blog afloat while I was on the move today – and as far as I can see, most of you behaved. 😯

Will have more time to catch up tomorrow, see you then – and thanks again 😉

197 Responses to “wednesday”

  1. 1 bonkers
    July 19, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Um, have y’all seen this yet?


    Adam Greed’s co-founder buddy-cakes has been indicted. Just…um…wow. Those “true progressives” sure know how to pick ’em!

  2. 6 hopefruit2
    July 19, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Thank you so much Chips. Hope you have a wonderful evening, and that you continue to enjoy your vacation! 🙂 I take it that we’ll still see a lil’ of you tomorrow – even if it’s just for a brief moment or two 🙂 🙂

  3. July 20, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Hi “Mommy”, glad that you have arrived safely, and yes everyone has been doing their homework and cooperating nicely. 😉 😉 Seriously, you have established such a terrific, respectful, and adult framework here, Chips, that it’s no sweat to interact meaningfully in your non-absent absence. [Though I miss the beautiful pics that you share so effectively. :red:]

    • July 20, 2011 at 12:33 am

      DF, very good to read that your ‘little one’ is fine after such a scare!

      • July 20, 2011 at 12:41 am

        Oops! Wrong spot. Also, I noticed later that Chips had added more pictures. Looks like I need to turn in for the night, so off I go after wishing everyone a wonderful Wednesday! See you guys later in the day.

      • 10 desertflower
        July 20, 2011 at 1:52 am

        Oh, thank you:) I’m glad that she’s ok…but it’s nothing to mess around with and I hope that she finally figures out that mom wasn’t joking when I said to “drink LOTS of water!”

  4. July 20, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Thank you Chips. Glad you are safe.

  5. 12 desertflower
    July 20, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Thank you, Chips for all you do. Truly, from the deepest depths of my heart.Even when you’re not around, you still manage amazing things here. I thought for sure I wouldn’t be missing that much today with you being gone, and me spending 4 hours in the ER with my dehydrated daughter…the lifeguard that should know better:) But I came back to LOTS of wonderful things that I missed. Anyway, many thanks.It’s really some great family here! PS..my daughter’s fine. One would think that living in Phoenix, in the summer,guarding for 4 years,,,she’d finally know how to take care of herself in the heat….Ah,…not so much! She better not do that again…she kinda liked those 6 handsome firefighter/EMT’s fussing over her today!

    • July 20, 2011 at 12:35 am

      Glad to read that your daughter is okay, DF! That must have been a scary few hours.

      • 14 utaustinliberal
        July 20, 2011 at 1:08 am

        Hey desertflower glad to hear your lifeguard daughter is doing well. Dehydration in Phoenix is no joke. Sending her wishes for a speedy recovery. 🙂

        • 15 desertflower
          July 20, 2011 at 1:55 am

          Many thanks:) It’s no fun WHEREVER you live…Phoenix in the summer is more than brutal though….I think her problem is, if she drinks like she SHOULD, then she’d be in the bathroom and not in the guard chair watching everyone. So rather than be away from her post, she suffers through it and doesn’t drink enough water on duty. That’s my best mommy guess.

          • 16 HZ
            July 20, 2011 at 2:10 am

            Hi desertflower, I am just reading this about your daughter. I will keep both of you in my prayers and thoughts. I am up a little later tonight, so I will say my thoughts and light a candle for her in my room. Keep safe and I will pray that your daughter will have a beautiful recovery and will listen to mommy. Sending healing hugs to you all now. HZ

          • 18 prettyfoot58
            July 20, 2011 at 6:31 am

            Glad everything turned out ok…..whewwww

            • 19 desertflower
              July 20, 2011 at 10:13 am

              Thank you! Me, too

              • 20 GGail
                July 20, 2011 at 10:42 am

                DF, glad to hear that your daughter is gonna be okay. Maybe after this incident, the lifeguard supervisor will devise a potty break schedule where the lifeguards can cover one another or the supervisors can cover them for potty breaks. Like you, I’m sure that’s the reason your daughter didn’t drink much fluid – she didn’t want to leave her post unguarded. I hope this was a teaching moment for the whole lifeguard crew. Have a Safe Summer!

          • July 20, 2011 at 3:34 pm

            Hi Desertflower. Where does your daughter lifeguard?

      • 22 desertflower
        July 20, 2011 at 11:34 am

        It sure was:) Drink! Drink! Drink! Even when you’re NOT thirsty….by then, you’re already getting dehydrated. That’s the lesson for today!

    • 23 LunarSea
      July 20, 2011 at 7:09 am

      OMG I’m so glad to hear that she’s okay, but 4 hr in ER means she must have been pretty bad. My heart goes out to you. Many blessing on her and {{{{{desertflower}}}}} to you.

      • 24 desertflower
        July 20, 2011 at 10:15 am

        Thank you,LunarSea…4 hours in the ER, for us, meant that it was crowded and other people were worse off than she was…triage:) She got everything checked out and passed with flying colors….and an IV boost for good measure!

        • July 20, 2011 at 11:29 am

          DF, just want to say I’m happy all is well with your daughter. God is good.

          • 26 desertflower
            July 20, 2011 at 11:35 am

            Thank you so much proud. Me too.Nice to have this extended family here of people that care. It means everything.

            • 27 HZ
              July 20, 2011 at 1:02 pm

              Morning desertflower. Happy to hear that your daughter is doing fine. Tell her to listen to her extended family here also. We do not want her to take those type of chances. Drink her water as mommy says and granny(young gtanny) HZ insists. Yes, I lit a candle in my musicroom/library in my home after reading the news, and I stayed up and read a little and said a prayer for her and you as the candle burned. Love you back, Desertflower. Tell her to listen to us.

        • 28 Hachikō
          July 20, 2011 at 2:20 pm

          Oh my. So happy to hear your daughter is ok. What a scare. Thank god she’s ok.

          Take care, DF.

  6. 29 meta
    July 20, 2011 at 1:00 am

    OK, I just read that Doug Feith is advising Rick Perry on foreign policy, presumably for his to-be-announced presidential bid.

    Feith was one of the principal architects of Bush’s Iraq policies and strategy, including torture. He oversaw the Office of Special Plans for Rumsfeld and Cheney. He oversaw military prisons, including Abu Gharib. He is also a friend of Ahmed Chalabi. Any of this ringing a big loud bell? He’s the guy Gen. Tommy Franks described as “the dumbest fucking guy on the planet.” Wow, hard to imagine Rick Perry being any more of a colossal ignoramus but there it is.

    • 30 desertflower
      July 20, 2011 at 1:57 am

      meta…I saw that on Rachel tonight. Makes sense….if you’re Rick Perry.

    • 32 theo67
      July 20, 2011 at 2:18 am

      So, in a nutshell, Republicans really don’t see anything wrong with any of their failed policies or behavior? That’s almost scarier than the policies and behavior itself.

    • 33 COS
      July 20, 2011 at 8:39 am

      At this stage of Rick Perry’s life, if he does not have a pretty strong background in foreign policy, he can be dangerous. I don’t think foreigh policy is something that can be taught and learned in a matter of months; the world is to complicated. If I recall, wasn’t International Affairs a part of PBO major? I don’t trust Perry any farther than I can see him.

      • 34 isonprize
        July 20, 2011 at 9:47 am

        Yup. Pres. Obama’s undergraduate degree from Columbia was in political science with a concentration in international relations.

      • 35 theo67
        July 20, 2011 at 12:41 pm

        I can’t wait to see Perry in a debate with President Obama. Perry will be crushed, eviscerated, humiliated and maybe he’ll learn not play out of his league.

  7. 37 Eleroy
    July 20, 2011 at 1:48 am

    Rock on C.S!!!

  8. 38 HZ
    July 20, 2011 at 2:15 am

    Missing you Chipsticks, but hoping that you are having a relaxing time. We love you here, so we hope that everyone will behave. Mama HZ will check more tomorrow Just kidding, I am sure that we will continue to be the adults that will be respectful and loving. Prayers and blessings to you. We appreciate you so much as the foundation of our wonderful family here. Keep safe.

  9. July 20, 2011 at 2:31 am

    Let’s all not forget to pray for justice for those who try to do evil to our President. With the Murdoch case, who would have thought that his evil doing would be exposed to the light considering all his power. . With the FBI beginning an inquiry in the US who knows how far this will go. Good night all and have a very pleasant 3 weeks off dear Chipsticks.

  10. July 20, 2011 at 6:23 am

    Miss a lot yesterday. Coming here late.

    Thanks Chips. Hoping you are having a wonderful time. DF, just caught the tail end about your daughter and dehydration. But glad to hear she is doing well. I son is doing summer conditioning for his football team this year and I worry everyday when he goes. Heart doesn’t rest until he gets home.

    It is way to hot out htere. Anyway, so glad all is well.

  11. July 20, 2011 at 6:28 am

    One more thing. Everyone, I need your prayers. I need to find me a job soon, real soon, so send up a little pray, do a little rain dance, whatever.

    Hope the day is a good one for everyone.

    Let’s remember to keep our eyes on the prize. The distraction are too many, but like PBO does it all the time, don’t get too high or too low — whether it is about the polls, the crazies, the Greenies and Hampsters or the PL — the GOP trickery, no matter what. Everytime they think one of their little tricks or side shows has got our president cornered, he shows them.

    Remember also, his latest video where he’s talking to the kids about politics. Lots to glean from him about life in there, too.

    Later, everyone.

    • 42 prettyfoot58
      July 20, 2011 at 6:34 am

      Wishing you the best…Africa

    • 43 LunarSea
      July 20, 2011 at 7:12 am

      Showering you with job offers.

    • 44 COS
      July 20, 2011 at 8:39 am

      Prayers for you Africa.

    • 45 mtmarilyn
      July 20, 2011 at 8:42 am

      Will definitly keep you in my prayers, Africa! I know how hard it is to find jobs. Just a note of encouragement. My son was looking for a job for quite awhile, then he found one he really likes and in a field he loves. It can be done. God bless.

    • 46 hopefruit2
      July 20, 2011 at 8:44 am

      Wishing and hoping the best for you Africa. Hope you get some good news soon.

    • 48 desertflower
      July 20, 2011 at 10:24 am

      You know that ALL of us are wishing good things for you,africa.I know EXACTLY how anxious you’re feeling now with the urgency of needing a job. My husband lost his very good paying job in 2010….NEVER thought he’d be out of work for almost the entire year…we went through everything we had to pay our bills and save our beautiful home. Got a job at the end of the year that year, but the pay is SO much less than what he made. We still struggle every single day, even WITH his job.I feel like I’ve been swimming UPSTREAM forever and I’m exhausted. Physically and mentally exhausted.I will say MANY prayers and do MANY rain dances if it means you will find a job to support yourself again…I know that it’s been FAR too long since you had one.It’s so hard…my husband is a dissertation away from a PhD, and he still had quite the time of it.I actually think they go for “cheap” over experienced….hey, all about that bottom line. I send you good vibes, good wishes, and good luck….and a hug!

    • 49 Kasai
      July 20, 2011 at 10:26 am

      Africa keep hope alive….I know it;s tough now…rest assured that with faith and all of us praying for you…Better days are coming:-)

      Desert..I pray that your daughter finds comfort and be well soon:-)

      Chip safe travels my friend…….Miss ya, but hope that you come back refreshed and ready to kick some ____

      Good Day Everyone……..

    • 51 GGail
      July 20, 2011 at 11:48 am

      When prayers go up, blessings come down! We’re sending prayers up for you Africa and anyone else who’s seeking employment.

      God WILL answer your prayer.

      • 52 HZ
        July 20, 2011 at 1:39 pm

        GGail, I have that beautiful quote in my prayer area where I pray and lift up my family and my friends and TOD family daily Africa, I will add your request as well. Keep your hope and actions positive with a steady heart to receive the best that is out there waiting for you in the job area. I cry out to God for help when I hear of so many dear friends and not my TOD family who need jobs. So just know that I am sending out prayers and good thoughts for you to find a job. Be good to yourself with huge expectations and kind thoughts. I am sending a huge hug wrapped with a beautiful prayer for your situation., ok. Love you back also. HZ

  12. 55 Ladyhawke
    July 20, 2011 at 6:34 am

    I am reposting this because it just infuriates me and I don’t understand why we are not hearing more about this in the media. It is painfully obvious that someone who is not an elected official has taken over the Republican Party and created a no taxes religion that is sabotaging our country.

    Each member of the GOP House of Representatives took this oath:

    “I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

    1) There is no mention of taking a no taxes pledge from some guy named Grover Norquist.

    2) There is no mention of surrendering your judgment to some guy named Grover Norquist.

    3) There is allegiance to the Constitution and the American people not some guy named Grover Norquist.

    • 56 MTmarilyn
      July 20, 2011 at 9:24 am

      I agree Ladyhawke, I wish more people understood what this means. The tearepubs throw the word treason so easily and I truly believe they are the ones who comment treason when they sign that paper.

    • 57 desertflower
      July 20, 2011 at 10:29 am

      I saw that you had posted this somewhere else and totally agree. I think EVERYONE reading this should call their REPUBLICAN members of congress, and ASK THEM!!! I will do that very thing. TODAY! I’m really anxious ti find out why this os ok with them…in fact, I may even write to the newspaper opinion page as well…as to why this isn’t being asked by the media……you already know the answer to that! SOMEBODY TWEET THIS! Thanks, Ladyhawke:)

  13. 58 prettyfoot58
    July 20, 2011 at 6:39 am

    i have tried to comment from work….but i cannot comment….strange …perhaps my company has some kind of filtering system….but i can log in..has anyone else had thios problem…

    i can get on twitter….but i do not know quite how to handle that…..can someone lend me a hand with navigating twitter

    will be back later.

    Drink plenty of water today……

    Have a Foooootabulous Day…

    • 59 utaustinliberal
      July 20, 2011 at 1:26 pm

      Hey prettyfoot58 what problems do you have with twitter exactly? Could you list them and I’ll try to help.

  14. July 20, 2011 at 7:05 am

    Gee, only fox news is not covering the British parliament this morning! Hmmm. Their must be something wrong with there satellite! Has to be that?

  15. July 20, 2011 at 7:28 am

    KC, LA and colombus are on tap for local interviews today. I laugh bc the president goes around dc and they hate that!

  16. July 20, 2011 at 7:35 am

    Did you all catch what Jonathan truly said about reverend al! He said that (paraphrasing) msnbc should be ashamed of themselves for considering hiring a racist.


    So, now we kind of get a feeling how the liberal elites think of this president’. You see where I am going with this?

    • 65 Fred
      July 20, 2011 at 8:08 am

      Jonathan Alter said that? 😯
      fuck him;that’s the same punk who keeps putting Palin on the covers of Newsweek 🙄

      • 66 Fred
        July 20, 2011 at 8:10 am

        good morning TOD family

        may GOD guide;bless;protect and give him courage;strength and health and patience as he has to deal the Teahadists

      • 67 MoObama
        July 20, 2011 at 8:27 am

        Alter said that? Al is the only reason to turn on the TV lately.

        • 68 Me4obama
          July 20, 2011 at 8:36 am


          Morning my fellow TODers. I can see my President is bypassing the filthy lazy Media.


        • 69 Jax6655
          July 20, 2011 at 8:38 am

          I think Jovie meant Jonathan Turley not Alter.

          • 70 mtmarilyn
            July 20, 2011 at 8:48 am

            Good morning Chips and TOD family.

            I don’t know which Jonathan she meant but Jonathan Turly is a constitutional professor so I don’t think it was hum either.

            I love Rev Al. I am so glad he is on.

            Another busy day for the President, let’s keep him in our prayers.

          • 72 Fred
            July 20, 2011 at 10:14 am

            thank you Jax for the correction

          • 73 theo67
            July 20, 2011 at 12:43 pm

            Jonathan Turley has had a problem with the President since very early on, when he realized that the President wasn’t going to ask him for advice on anything. I didn’t even know Turley was still alive, to be honest.

      • 74 hopefruit2
        July 20, 2011 at 8:43 am

        It’s Jonathan TURLY who said this, not Alter.

      • July 20, 2011 at 8:45 am


        Alter is a big supporter of the president!

      • July 20, 2011 at 9:24 am

        I think Tina Brown editor in chief at Newsweek, probably has more responsibly for who goes on the covers than Jonathan Alter who works as a columnist at Newsweek.

      • 77 isonprize
        July 20, 2011 at 9:50 am

        Jonathan Turley dissed Rev Al, saying that MSNBC should be ashamed of themselves for hiring a racist. Whatever, Turley… whatever.

      • 80 desertflower
        July 20, 2011 at 10:34 am

        No. Jonathan TURLEY…the constitutional law professor at Georgetown, I think. Not Alter.

    • 81 COS
      July 20, 2011 at 8:45 am

      I can’t stand Mr. righteous, purist Turley. Every time I see him on Rachel’s show, I turn the channel. How dare he call Rev. Al a racist just because Rev. Al call it like it is and defends PBO. Obviously Turley resent anyone who defends PBO. I think I heard someone say that he is a Libertarian.

      • July 20, 2011 at 8:50 am

        My point is- that might be what the liberal elites, (who are fractured between being democrats, green party or libertarians-) might say about this president!

        The dc liberal elites are childish and one of the reasons dc is broken!

      • 83 nintendowii10
        July 20, 2011 at 8:58 am

        Turley is an ideologue who just wants to bloviate and get nothing done. He’s another member of the PL clown circus, and we are tired of hearing their bullshit and lies.

        Rev Al is a racist just because he defends PBO? So would the white people who defended Clinton, even during Monicagate, be racist as well?

        I love how they just cry “racism” every time a black person goes to bat for PBO. At least they aren’t like Allan West, throwing misogynist remarks at Ms. Wasserman Shultz. I guess Turley would be happier with Republicans like Allan West or Hermain Cain. 🙄

        • 84 theo67
          July 20, 2011 at 12:50 pm

          Good points – the same names their calling Rev Al, are the ones they’d call the President if he was to fight the way they want him to fight. There was a loser who called into Stephanie Miller, claiming to be an angry black man who had wasted his vote on President Obama – because President Obama had done absolutely nothing but cave and be a right wing tool. Well, right there, we know this person is an uninformed idiot – because those claims are just not true. But his very ranting and screaming – but accomplishing nothing – is what he wants the President to do. Many callers called in afterwards completely disgusted with the “angry black man” and calling him for what he is – either a paid troll, or an idiot (or both).

          The question that needs to be asked is why some people prefer to have a show versus real results. So many people are celebrating because the President endorsed DOMA (which is a good thing), which is largely expected to fail. But those same people don’t give the President credit for actually repealing DADT, and the million other things that have been accomplished, because he didn’t put up enough of a show for them.

          I prefer real results, even if they’re incremental. One step forward is still one step forward, which is progress.

      • 85 lisalovesobama
        July 20, 2011 at 8:59 am

        Of course sheeple like Turley and probably the Maddcow are mad that Cenk is gone!! One less sleazy toxic waste site to stink up the airways with anti-Obama hate fumes. They can’t stand the fact that an Obama supporter is now cleaning up the air and calling them out for the nasty critters they are.

        • 86 ChristiMtl
          July 20, 2011 at 9:55 am

          Good morning TOD family,

          I read his article yesterday and I was shocked. It was very unfair. And no MSNBC didn’t lose its credibility by hiring him, I am trilled! I love him.

          If he never said a word about Pat Buchanan who is on the payroll, he better leave the Rev. alone.

        • 87 MoObama
          July 20, 2011 at 12:50 pm

          I understand Al ratings equaled Fox for that time slot.

          • 88 theo67
            July 20, 2011 at 12:50 pm

            The PL can’t understand succress when they see it.

            • 89 theo67
              July 20, 2011 at 12:51 pm


              • 90 HZ
                July 20, 2011 at 2:02 pm

                Concur theo67. It is interesting Turley is RM’s favorite and KO. Remember when we got on RM for her comments(I called it her lying on the President) about what happened in NY, then whoever did their “hit article’ and called President Obama’s supports all kind of names. Well, I know that RM is smart, but I still think that she is sly and when she wants someone to do this type of backstabbing, they come right in and bat for her and the likes of her. So Turley can take his stiff behind and sit on it. I will support Rev. Al anyday over Turley. We are moving on. We are going to have a great day and a great election. We know this journey will get even tougher, but we have good power inside of us, and we are not afraid of any evil weapon that will try to stop us. These people are so foolish in their thoughts and actions. We are focus on helping our family and friends get their jobs back and even focus on new career moves, putting out children in good schools, supporting our teacher who have been laid off, and helping to bring our men and women home to their families safely. Plus, we are focus on re-electing our wonderful President. So back off Turley and all the likes of you and your small thinking.

  17. 92 isonprize
    July 20, 2011 at 9:09 am

    11:00am meeting in the “Diplomatic Room” Well, at least the room (and the President, of course) knows how to act! The rest of the babies he works with in Congress are far, far from ‘diplomatic’ 8)

  18. 93 lisalovesobama
    July 20, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Seriously, DWS is fracking awesome! So glad she’s mine 🙂 PBO made the best fracking decision in choosing this woman to head the DNC! It’s like the DNC is kicking ass and saying ‘we don’t need your names, you’re all going down mofos!!!’ It’s like she watched all the mistakes of past DNC chairs and was like: ‘oh hell frack no! I’m taking this job and I’m gonna make sure I kick ass!” She’s always on point and on message, (and she pivots!) she is so damn awesome! Here she is on the House floor talking about the Duck, Dodge and Dismantle plan! OMG, guys, how awesome is that?!!! Repugs have always gotten away with atrocities simply by giving them cutsie little names that everyone can remember: Cut, Cap and Balance. Look at it. Sounds simple and harmless and it sounds like it would: cut the deficit, cap it and balance it so we don’t have a huge deficit on our backs. Sounds so common sense right? Well I don’t know who’s incharge of messaging at the WH, but Jay started it and Debbie’s bringing it home with an even catchier and telling nickname, the DUCK, DODGE and DISMANTLE plan! tehe, tehe :twisted:. I am telling you. Debs is purely badass and Jay is so on point. {{{{{Inner monologue}}}}}}—- ‘Okay, calm down gurl! It’s too damn early in the morning to have a PBO/Carney/DWS/DNC-gasm. phew!

    • 94 nintendowii10
      July 20, 2011 at 9:35 am

      And Allan West is cryin like a bitch, because Ms. Wasserman Shultz called him out!

      • July 20, 2011 at 9:49 am

        Excuse my language, but Allan West, Joe Walsh, are the kind of crazy ass racists Tea Party people in the House.

        • July 20, 2011 at 10:03 am

          Thanks to folks like Ed Schultz, and all the PL who felt they were so let down that they didn’t go vote in 2010. There were others besides Ed, but all they talked about was how disappointed they were in this President. I think Ed is up to the same thing for 2012.And I go to his show website and tell him exactly what I think of him. Ed had a fit last night concerning what the President said about the gang six debt plan. Obama is going to cave and give into the Republicans, that’s what Ed was ranting and raving about.

          • 97 nintendowii10
            July 20, 2011 at 10:10 am

            Ed who? That fat fool doesn’t know his head from his ass, he thinks ranting and raving against Obama will push the country to the left, well it didn’t work last fall and it won’t work again in 2012. Plus, Ed was always a Hillary fan, he’s probably STILL mad because Obama beat Queen Hillary and is promising what he campaigned on: civility in politics. “Cave to Republicans,” ironic seeing as Ed “used” to be a Republican, he sounds no different than the crazy Republicans out there right now.

            • 98 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
              July 20, 2011 at 11:00 am

              News flash…….Ed Shulz is a Republican. Rachel, Keith, Jon, Bill….they all are getting paid by their Corporate masters to do their bidding. Just like you wouldn’t listen to a Rush Limbaugh on the radio or a Glen Beck on TV, don’t watch Ed or the others. Believe me you will keep your sanity. Obama/Biden 2012!!

          • 99 MoObama
            July 20, 2011 at 12:55 pm

            Is he a freaking broken record or what! I can’t stand this guy. He says just enough to keep the dumb following him.

      • July 20, 2011 at 10:11 am

        Mrs. Wasserman Schultz was pretty good. I’m sure that thing West wasn’t please. But who cares?

    • 101 prettyfoot58
      July 20, 2011 at 9:40 am


    • 102 gloria
      July 20, 2011 at 9:44 am

      Without screaming, without drama, DWS speaks truth clearly and succinctly. We are so fortunate to have her fighting for us. Yes, President Obama is a master at choosing the strongest team to defend the American Dream.

    • 103 isonprize
      July 20, 2011 at 10:19 am

      Okay, THERE’S a woman I could vote for as our first woman President!! (if Michelle Obama decides that she doesn’t want to run for the job…) DWS is FIERCE!!!

      And yes, she called out Allan West. Good on her!!

    • 104 GGail
      July 20, 2011 at 11:56 am

      Lisa, you are too cute! Yes, I feel your excitement regarding our DNC Chairperson extraordinaire DWS! She told it like it is!!!! And made silly Allen West sputter with anger – LOL!!!!!!!

    • 105 theo67
      July 20, 2011 at 12:56 pm

      The President said it when he announced her, that Michelle had told him “if you want the job done right, hire a woman”. True for Nancy, true for Debbie. True for Hillary. True for Kathleen Sebelius. I could go on…

    • July 20, 2011 at 6:08 pm

      LOL….. I guess Allan West “Angry Blackman act” is what the PL expect from the president.

  19. 107 lisalovesobama
    July 20, 2011 at 9:54 am

    watching the respect for marriage hearing. Started 5 minutes ago:


    • 108 lisalovesobama
      July 20, 2011 at 10:00 am

      John Lewis is the first witness. He’s so fracking awesome!!! 🙂

      • 109 lisalovesobama
        July 20, 2011 at 10:08 am

        Fricking Rep. (peter?) King-R Iowa, talking now about preserving “marriage between a man and woman.” Idiot. Said DOMA was passed with overwhelming support and signed by that _______, ________ Clinton. 😕 Oh hell fuck no!!! He just made the connection between Incest: a father marrying his daughter to gay marriage. That dumb mofo. 🙄 😡

        • 110 lisalovesobama
          July 20, 2011 at 10:10 am

          King is now attacking PBO for not supporting DOMA and for supporting RFMA. 🙄 He’s saying marriage isn’t a right in terms of civil rights- that’s why we can legislate marriage. 🙄

          • 111 lisalovesobama
            July 20, 2011 at 10:21 am

            Sen.Grassly said PBO ran on traditional marriage and that until yesterday, was a supporter of DOMA. WTF????!!!!!! Is this mofo for real? I can’t believe these people are still managing to smear PBO even here!!! Defend yourselves idiots! Don’t try to distract from the process by smearing PBO when you know he never believed in DOMA when he’s been saying DOMA was unconstitutional!!

            • 112 ChristiMtl
              July 20, 2011 at 10:24 am

              I wasn’t sure I heard that……I thought I was mistaken…………geez, that’s a lie.

            • 113 lisalovesobama
              July 20, 2011 at 10:39 am

              Another witness— Ron Wallen age 77, was with his spouse for 58 years. Was married in california in 2008. Spouse died recently and they had been living off SS and pension. His husband’s SS can’t be claimed by Ron cause the marriage isn’t recognized by the state or federal government. Focus on the Family guy was the next to speak. Told Ron that his company can help him in counseling cause they deal with [traditional marriage?] …….. I didn’t know if he was saying: ‘sorry for your loss, but even in this state, we can still pray the gay away.’– I can’t be sure that’s what he’s trying to say, but now he’s talking about how marriage is between a man and woman. He’s saying that he’s there in support of parents whose children are being bombarded by teachers telling people’s kids about the evil gays and lesbians and their evil sexual behaviors 🙄 —— He cited an eight grade teacher who told his class about gay sex. The Focus on the Family guy was surprised!!! WTF? No wonder kids get preggers: sex ed fool. Don’t matter if you’re gay or straight, sex ed should be taught! Kids are having sex earlier and earlier. Every time I turn around some damn kid who shouldn’t even be having their period yet is preggers 😕

              • 114 lisalovesobama
                July 20, 2011 at 11:17 am

                Grassly only cares about states’ rights aka: section 2 of DOMA. His question for Focus on the Family Idiot is about section 2: certain states can ignore a marriage that occurred in another state. So if someone got married in Vermont, then Florida can ignore it. Grassly and FOTF Idiot are outraged that RFMA could repeal this. All his questions are all directed at the Idiot.
                Grassly: sociological studies show that kids raised in gay households are just as well adjusted and healthy as kids raised in straight households ( side note–as a sociology minor and doctoral candidate I can assure you research on this is true. Research also shows that kids raised by gay couples also tend to be more accepting of others.
                Idiot: no, as I said in my opening, research shows that kids are better off in het households. The research saying they are equal is very recent and the methodology (i.e : sample size: the number of participants of the study)- he said the sample was too small and the procedures (i.e: the setting that you get your sample from– the idiot talked about how the researchers got their sample in -i thought he said something like coffee shops, or some other bullshit – isn’t good, blah, blah, blah 🙄

                Okay, to pear this down: it’s true that this research is relatively new in comparison to the decades (50 years or more) of studies that have focused on kids in straight families. What the idiot is doing is trying to spin the fact that smaller amounts of studies on gay families means that the conclusions aren’t efficacious: smaller = not true. That is bullshit. More and more studies are coming out in support of the fact that gay couples raise healthy and well adjusted and tolerant kids. People have been doing studies on straight families forever and a day. In fact, counseling or therapy dealing with marriage and family was coined on straight couples and families. it is just recently meaning in the last 10-25 years where the APA, sociologist, etc have been attempting to redress this. One of my professors is gay and he is a marriage and family therapist. He deals with gay and straight couples. The research is there. The FOTF Idiot is an ass, who is misrepresenting the facts. Fucker 😡

                • 115 lisalovesobama
                  July 20, 2011 at 11:21 am

                  Al Franken just handed the FOTF Idiot his ass on a platter, by citing the same study the Idiot was using to bash gay couples. Franken showed that the Idiot was misrepresenting the data of the study. The audience had a good laugh at the Idiot. Good. 😕

                  • 116 lisalovesobama
                    July 20, 2011 at 11:41 am

                    Durbin said he’d voted for DOMA- I think someone else had brought it up- but that he is an original sponsor of RFMA is a redress cause it’s the right think to do. Quoted Lincoln: I’d rather be right some of the time than wrong all of the time. (I think, hope I got that quote right.)

                    • 117 lisalovesobama
                      July 20, 2011 at 11:57 am

                      Edward Whelan: RFMA is an attack on traditional marriage and will lead to endorsement of polyamorous relationships as per the left’s agenda. What?!!!!! He’s calling out all the Dems who voted for DOMA, including VP Joe. This guy Whelan is so fucking petty and dumb.

    • 118 meta
      July 20, 2011 at 10:01 am

      Democrats always take the high road on these issues. So proud of our party for pushing for progress.

  20. 119 MTmarilyn
    July 20, 2011 at 9:56 am

    I love DWS. Those big tough tearepub men are shaking in their boots at our wonderful strong woman!!!!!!! Go DWS!!!!!

  21. 120 meta
    July 20, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Good morning, TODville.

    desertflower, so glad your daughter made it through such a scary day. africa, hang in there. We are all holding you in our thoughts for finding a wonderful job that will sustain and engage you.

    Hoping to see more progress today in DC.

  22. 122 Me4obama
    July 20, 2011 at 10:02 am

    I will copy Gail King’s catch Phrase and send DWS “a special Mommy Hug” from me. Keep the Good fight girl you are the one we’ve been waiting for.

  23. 123 ChristiMtl
    July 20, 2011 at 10:04 am

    John Lewis is so freaking awesome. I love him.

  24. 124 JER
    July 20, 2011 at 10:13 am

    July 20, 2011 2:15 PM EDT

    First Lady Michelle Obama Makes an Announcement on Access to Healthy, Affordable Food

  25. 125 meta
    July 20, 2011 at 10:15 am

    FYI – For those of us who watch the DPBs, Jay Carney is on at 12:30PM Eastern.

  26. 128 meta
    July 20, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Some new buttons of our First Family in the store at barackobama.com:


  27. 129 Fred
    July 20, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Alabama Supreme Court Justice Tom Parker Strikes Down Law Because Adam & Eve ‘Came Together In Covenant Before God’

    Tea Party welcomes Justice Parker

  28. 134 Fred
    July 20, 2011 at 11:07 am

    ‘He’s Mad…He’s Got The Gun’: GOP OH State Sen’s Wife Calls Cops On Her Husband (AUDIO) 😯

  29. July 20, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Hi TODers. Checking in late here this morning. Hope everyone is having a great day. Just wanted to pass along the latest polling news on the golden boy, Chris Christie, who the GOP thinks could be their savior. In a nutshell: He continue to tank.

    “Chris Christie’s popularity has declined significantly over the first half of 2011 and he would have a very difficult time winning reelection if voters in New Jersey went to the polls today.

    Only 43% of voters in the state approve of the job Christie is doing to 53% who disapprove. That -10 approval spread represents a 13 point decline from when PPP last polled the state in January, when Christie’s standing was 48/45. Christie’s numbers are steady with Republicans. But independents have really turned on him, going from approving by a 55/39 margin to disapproving by a 54/40 margin. And his crossover popularity with Democrats is on the decline as well- where 23% approved of him in January now only 16% do.

    The fallout of Christie’s declining approval numbers is that he would now trail Newark Mayor Cory Booker in a hypothetical 2013 match up, 47-43. Booker is an extremely popular political figure, with 43% of voters expressing a positive opinion of him to only 16% with a negative one. He still has 2 things going for him that Christie no longer does- he’s very well liked with independents (a 35/13 favorability spread) and he has a lot of appeal across party lines (just as many Republicans- 26%- like him as dislike him. Booker actually leads Christie 43-42 with independents, a group GOP candidates really need to win by a wide margin to be successful statewide in New Jersey.”


    • 137 lisalovesobama
      July 20, 2011 at 11:30 am

      ha. ha-ha. ha. haaaaaaaaaaa! Hm 🙂

      • 138 utaustinliberal
        July 20, 2011 at 1:42 pm

        I hope Cory Booker seriously thinks of running for Governor of New Jersey when Christie’s time is up. It would really build up his political resume and hopefully in the future he could run for President. I like the work and leadership he and Governor of Massachusetts Deval Patrick exhibit.

    • July 20, 2011 at 11:30 am

      I wonder if this could actually entice Christie to run for the Presidency now when he’s still fooling folks nationally with all the fluff press coverage he has received. He could see that he’s at his political peak (or just starting his drop) and figures that not running for re-election or running and losing would hurt him too much in 2016 and that his best chance to make his move is now.

      • 140 nintendowii10
        July 20, 2011 at 11:48 am

        I doubt Christie could run for a fraction of a second, let alone for the Presidency 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

  30. 141 dotster
    July 20, 2011 at 11:30 am

    I got an invite to a bday bash for President Obama Aug. 3 at the Aragon Ballroom in Chgo. Don’t think I can go as we will just be returning from out of town. Herbie Hancock, OK Go and Jennifer Hudson! are going to perform, Sounds great!

    • 142 Fred
      July 20, 2011 at 11:51 am

      I am just 2 train stops from the Aragon 😀 but don’t know if I’ll be able to go since am on a waiting list to start treatment at any time now 🙄 😦

  31. July 20, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Amazing that the stupid msm is praising Murdoch’s wife for going after the guy who threw the pie at him. She’s such a hero. Well, she’s also a serial homewrecker who betrayed the American family that became her benefactors. From Wiki:

    “After entering the United States, Deng lived with the Cherry family for a while when attending university. Mrs. Cherry suspected her husband was having an affair with Deng (30 years his junior) and demanded she leave the house. Mr. Cherry soon followed and moved in with her.[5] The two married in 1990.[4] Deng and Cherry’s marriage lasted 2 years and 7 months before they were legally divorced,[5] but he would later explain they only stayed together for 4 or 5 months,[4] after which he learned of the extramarital relationship Deng had with David Wolf.[4] Nonetheless, she had been able to secure a green card through being legally married to Cherry.[4][5]

    In 1997, Deng met Rupert Murdoch at a company party in Hong Kong.[6] Deng and Murdoch married in 1999,[13] less than three weeks after his divorce from ex-wife Anna Maria Torv Murdoch Mann was finalized.[13] They live in Manhattan with their two daughters: Grace Helen Murdoch (born 2001) and Chloe Murdoch (born 2005). Deng is pro-vegan.[14]”

    • 148 nintendowii10
      July 20, 2011 at 11:49 am

      Well, Murdoch owns most of the media, why act surprised?

      • 149 Dakota
        July 20, 2011 at 12:15 pm

        I wouldn’t be surprised if Murdoch didn’t pay him to do that! MSN dived into this distraction with both feet, just like Murdoch knew they would. All the headlines are talking about this incident instead of the hearing.

    • July 20, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      Gawd, I hope those kids were conceived using artificial insemination. If not, that woman has earned her lifestyle many times over.

    • 151 theo67
      July 20, 2011 at 1:03 pm

      So, she’s a grifter, like most of them.

  32. July 20, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Ohio bully Gov Kasich’s approval keeps going doooooooooooown!

    Ohio Gov. John Kasich is sinking slowly into the quicksand of voter disapproval, with a 50 – 35 percent thumbs down on job approval, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. This is down from a 49 – 38 percent job disapproval May 18.

    Opponents of Gov. Kasich’s legislation to limit collective bargaining for public employees retain a 56 – 32 lead in the expected November referendum, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.


  33. 154 GGail
    July 20, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    God always Listens. Take a moment TOD family and view this video. It will touch your heart.


  34. 155 Ladyhawke
    July 20, 2011 at 12:27 pm



    – Governor Scott and the Republican legislature of Florida reject millions of dollars in federal aid in fighting health-care law

    – Montana Republicans look to gut the EPA

    – Wisconsin governor Scott Walker signs union-busting bill in the dead of night

    – Missouri state Republicans filibuster jobless benefits expansion

    – New Hampshire Republican House cuts tax on cigarettes, while cutting health and education spending

    For more examples go here:


  35. 156 Ladyhawke
    July 20, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Press Secretary Jay Carney is scheduled to brief the jackals at 12:30 p.m.


  36. 157 gd4obama
    July 20, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Not sure if this was posted before but…DWS does it again:


    You go girl. What kind of name is Reince Preibus anyway? All I see and say is Rince Prius. LOL

    • 158 theo67
      July 20, 2011 at 1:10 pm

      I hate these people on the right. I typically don’t like to use such strong language, but everything they stand for, everything they do, the way they look, the lack of morals, the immaturity, the meanness, the bullying, lying, smarminess. I just can’t stand them at all. And this Rank Prius (or whatever his name is) looks so childish, churlish and greasy – he’s one of the worst they’ve come out with lately, and he lies with absolute ease.

      How dare they imply something so irresponsible, when we’ve got pictures and evidence of the Reagans formally entertaining fundraisers in the White House and the Clinton’s using the Lincoln bedroom as a prize for donors? And what about the many crimes of Bush and Cheney – which actually cost human lives!

      I’m sure these kind of people cause the President to wonder at times. They are so disgusting, the lowest form of humanity.

  37. 159 desertflower
    July 20, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cantor won’t take “YES!” as an answer! Still siding with the batshit crazies

    • 160 theo67
      July 20, 2011 at 1:16 pm

      That’s because Cantor and the rest of them don’t work for america, they work for Grover Norquist. he’s given them their marching orders, and that’s all that matters. Plus, now it’s personal – since he was smacked down by President Obama and nobody believed Cantor’s version of events. We’ve all seen this President in action. He doesn’t storm out of rooms.

      I’m going to post this on Twitter.

      • 161 Ladyhawke
        July 20, 2011 at 1:31 pm

        Right theo…..WHO ELECTED GROVER NORQUIST??? This is just outrageous that this one man is making decisions for the Republican Party. They have surrendered their judgment to him. What about the Constitution????

    • 163 Ladyhawke
      July 20, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      Thanks DF for giving me another opportunity to post this amazing video of Van Jones explaining why the Grover Norquist no taxes under any circumstances pledge is a very bad idea. It’s a moral issue and a violation of their oath of office. Sadly, no one in the media is capable of connecting the dots and educating the public. it’s pitiful. In less than one minute Van Jones makes it plain…..

      Van Jones slams Norquist’s taxpayer protection pledge

  38. 164 Doris
    July 20, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    More jabs between RNC and DNC

    (CNN) – Chair of the Democratic National Committee, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, wrote a letter to Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus Thursday responding to an earlier request from the RNC that Attorney General Eric Holder investigate an “apparent” crime by President Obama.

    Priebus accused the president Monday of misusing the White House Map Room to record a fundraising video. A White House spokesman noted the room is part of the White House residence, and therefore not subject to the restrictions placed on official rooms.


  39. 165 Doris
    July 20, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    Pawlenty pulled from general poll after sinking too low

    In a sign that former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty’s campaign is still struggling, Public Policy Polling announced Monday night that Texas Gov. Rick Perry will replace Pawlenty in general election polling match-ups against Pres. Barack Obama.

    Pawlenty will still be included in the organization’s Republican primary polls, but his removal from this company’s general election poll match-ups bodes badly for Pawlenty, who has faltered in recent polls, leading some observers to speculate that his campaign is sinking.


    It’s almost over. Goodbye Mr. Pawlenty. 😀

  40. 168 utaustinliberal
    July 20, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    I hear the President is having another round of debt talks with congressional leaders in the next hour or so. Crossing my fingers for more progress to be made.

    • 169 nintendowii10
      July 20, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      It sounds like he is sticking both feet in the Republican’s asses, seeing the way Republicans continue to bitch and whine. PBO is NOT playing games, the damn Republicans better raise the debt ceiling or all hell will break loose.

  41. 170 Fred
    July 20, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    enjoy these 2 minute 26 seconds of brilliance from Al freaking Franken 😆

    Al Franken Pokes Fun At Focus On The Family Mischaracterizing Study At DOMA Hearing (VIDEO)


  42. July 20, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Dems to hold press conference on Allen West. Don’t know where we can view this.

    From Think Progress on Twitter: Group of House Democratic women lawmakers to hold news conference at 3:30 about Rep Allen West (R-FL) email

  43. 182 utaustinliberal
    July 20, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    BREAKING: President Obama will meet with Congressional Democratic Leaders within the hour to conduct more debt ceiling talks. After that he will meet with Speaker Boehner and Sen. Mitch McConnell at 5pm EDT to conduct more debt ceiling talks. I noticed Eric Cantor wasn’t invited to the talks. Hahahahahaha…… POTUS is probably tired of dealing with a freaking manaical, tantrum throwing, obstinate, block headed child.

  44. July 20, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    The First Lady was wonderful, and I enjoy listening to her and of course she look lovely. I thought I saw Grant Hill the basketball player and his father Calvin Hill who played for the Dallas Cowboys.

    • 187 louc1
      July 20, 2011 at 3:04 pm

      Yes she was and of course she looked gorgeous. She is so smart and has a heart of gold! I saw Grant Hill also – tallest one in the room – was the guy FLOTUS hugged next to him his Dad?

  45. 189 tally
    July 20, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    ok I posted this over on BWD – but I’m posting it here too….. because I CAN. 😀 😀 😀

    Everyone remember what Lawrence O’ said last week:

    “Nothing is agreed to, until EVERYTHING is agreed to.”

    The 7ish-Gang™ Bill still has to be taken from the SENATE – by being attached to something they have that originated in the HOUSE – sent back to the HOUSE, and the HouseOfCrazy® has to vote on it.

    Now, think about that in the TIME FRAME WE HAVE to raise the debt ceiling….. ok – stop laughing….. seriously, now.

    My thoughts? There is no time. Obama will get a clean bill – like he wanted in the first place. (Because the Debt Ceiling should NEVER EVER be attached to the budget – you should look at your bank account FIRST before you decide you can afford two wars and a tax cut for the überwealthy – if the Bush/GOP had done that {and weren’t such anti-tax loons}, we wouldn’t be talking about this, but I digress…)

    The Teaps will fight that because they’re morons, who can’t understand basic math.

    SOME GOP ADULT SOMEWHERE – will sit them down and explain that a private family can’t sell US Treasury Bonds to borrow more capital to pay it’s bills, but the Government can. However, a private family (if they have property) can take a second mortgage out on their house to pay their bills, put food on the table, and invest in an enterprise that will generate cash – so they can in future, pay back the 2nd, and MAKE MONEY. Hopefully, this adult can also explain that the US Gov (Fed/State/Local) is the largest employer on the planet with more employees world-wide than any private company. That the GOV can create jobs faster and more cost-effectively (when PROPERLY FUNDED) than any private entity because they don’t have $12million annual+bonus CEOs to feed, stocks to sell, or profit to worry about.

    This adult will then give a basic math class consisting of the following math equation:

    Taxes = Programs = JOBS for people to run said programs = people with a paycheck = people with money to SPEND = larger demand for goods & services = companies hiring to fulfill demand for goods & services = more people with JOBS = more money being spent = economic stimulation = more people paying taxes = more money into system = more programs can be created/infrastructure getting repaired, teachers, police, fire, etc = more people getting a PAYCHECK = more demand for goods and services x infinity.

    Yes, we need to bring back manufacturing, and a billion other things, but until that happens there is STUFF WE CAN DO HERE.

    Of course, we’re talking about the ClownCarCrazies® so I’m sure they’ll willfully still believe in the Magical Money/Jobs Tree that is the every rich man’s back yard. But hey, a girl can hope.

    Of course some LAW ADULT should also explain to Those Who Refute Reality that it’s:

    1. Dereliction of Duty to NOT raise the debt ceiling. The wording and the LAW of the 14th is clear: CONGRESS SHALL ENFORCE (America to pay her bills.) There is no choice. If they refuse, they can and should be removed from office for dereliction of duty. Then they can get a vote by those who are left.

    2. It’s also sedition to willfully crash the US Economy. It makes them a domestic enemy, which they are sworn to protect against.

    3. It’s beyond a conflict of interest bordering on treason to sign a loyalty pledge to ANYONE or ANYTHING that is held above the US CONSTITUTION.

    Those are just three reasons they SHOULD be removed from office.

    After they get a clean bill and raise the debt ceiling, they’ll tweak this bill some more, AFTER they do a JOBS bill which Obama could pound them with not passing until election day – then they’re swept from office, then the Bush tax cuts expire, and we can get some serious shit done during Obama2.

    • 190 utaustinliberal
      July 20, 2011 at 3:17 pm

      Thanks for this Tally. I was also thinking today, that with only 13 days to go until the August 2 debt deadline, that a clean debt ceiling bill might be the way to go and after that, tweaks, changes and addendums could be added that would cut spending and raise revenue accordingly. It frustrates me and any other adult that a procedural bill has become this big brouhaha because republicans refuse to act in a mature manner. After the debt ceiling passes, the word on the street is that President Obama is looking to introduce a new job initiative that includes a focus on manufacturing since that sector has been improving in leaps and bounds and he can use that to hammer and nail republicans to the ground when they side with the so called “job creators” aka the uber wealthy and once again screw the middle and working class.

  46. July 20, 2011 at 3:29 pm

    Wow. So much going on today. Can someone let us know details from the Dem women conference, please.

    Thanks again, to everyone for all your support.

    Here’s hoping that Chips is have a swell time off.

    Remember guys: We are the ones we’ve been waiting for!!

  47. 195 PoliticalJunkessa
    July 20, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    I am just now catching up on the threads. Great to see so much good stuff going on.

    I’m convinced we (America) is in the midst of the turning of a giant ship that is being done day by day, in ways big and small. Most of the action is going on beneath the waves where our President and people on the side of positive change are paddling like hell. The country is being re-educated and generations are shifting. Perspectives are changing on the role of government, media, education, labor, and so many other things. It’s hard and sometimes it’s painful, but I think we’re going to pull through in the long run.

    It takes a lot of energy, focus and vision to turn a ship around, but I think we’re really on our way.

  48. 196 Me4obama
    July 20, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Colbert Says ‘It Gets Better’
    In a rare moment out of character, Stephen Colbert shares with LGBT teens the lessons he learned from being called “queer” as a child.

  49. 197 COS
    July 20, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    A little OT but I just heard that the tea party do not think Rick Perry is conservative enough for them. I guess a lot of his past and his record is catching up with him.

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