65 Responses to “out-smarted”

  1. 1 nintendowii10
    July 12, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Outsmarted indeed. Thank you Larry O for more brilliance!

  2. 2 halo
    July 12, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    “Instead, many Congressional Republicans seem to be spoiling for a fight, calculating that some level of turmoil caused by a federal default might be what it takes to give them the chance to right the nation’s fiscal ship. “I certainly think you will see some short-term volatility,” said Representative Austin Scott of Georgia, the president of the freshman class. “In the end, the sun is going to come up tomorrow.

    He said the president and the Treasury secretary could pay pressing federal obligations out of money still coming in, and if they say they cannot, “Then they are liars.””

    These people are crazy. Voters should be ashamed of themselves.

    • 3 majii
      July 12, 2011 at 11:33 pm

      Austin Scott is my rep, and I don’t expect him to have the guts to do what’s right for the nation. He talked a good game to win the seat from a Blue Dog who campaigned against PBO in the midterms, and he has to continue the charade to convince the delusional, low information, know nothing, Obama hating, voters in this district. The tools here think not raising the debt limit will have no impact on themselves, the nation, or the global financial system–until they look into their bank accounts or mailboxes on August 3 and find they haven’t received their Social Security checks, disability checks, new Medicaid/Medicare cards, veterans benefit checks, etc. If this happens, they blame PBO–never the republicans who caused the problem in the first place.

      • 4 majii
        July 12, 2011 at 11:36 pm

        meant— and he has to continue the charade to convince the delusional, low information, know nothing, Obama hating, voters in this district to continue drinking the republican BS milkshakes. Truth be told, the main reason they don’t like PBO is because they don’t think a black man belongs in their White House.

  3. 5 lisalovesobama
    July 12, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    seriously can’t wait for all the wonderful books that will be written about this president. I’m gonna buy all of them if it takes me a hundred years 🙂

  4. July 12, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    That piece by LOD was a thing of beauty.

    • 20 utaustinliberal
      July 12, 2011 at 11:25 pm

      It really was. I watched the show from beginning to end and he was in top form. That vacation must have cleared his mind.

  5. 21 Bobfr
    July 12, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    President Obama owns them. We always knew that. Now every American knows it – funny how some of them are reacting 🙂

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  6. 23 Ladyhawke
    July 12, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    I tortured myself today and watched the press briefing with Jay Carney. He had an excellent response to a question about PBO’s response to some highly charged rhetoric from Eric Cantor. The reporters as usual were obsessed with tone, process and how X responded to what Y said.


    Q Can you tell us what his reaction was when the Majority Whip Cantor — Majority Leader Cantor said that he considered it in terms of who’s making concessions, that their concession in return for you giving spending cuts is to allow a vote on the debt limit?

    MR. CARNEY: Well, I think that’s one version of the question that somebody in the front row asked, which is that that’s — this is not the President’s problem —

    Q I want to know what his reaction was, though.

    MR. CARNEY: Well, I think he was asked about this in the interview, and it’s very much what I just said, which is, wait a second, this is an American problem. It’s not a Democratic problem, it’s not a Republican problem, it’s not this President’s problem. In fact, as I said, this is not a vote on new spending. This is a vote to fulfill the obligations made by previous Congresses under a previous President by and large, okay? When President Clinton left office, there were surpluses. Everyone agrees, right? I know that there — people like to argue over absolutely settled facts, but I think we can all agree that there were budget surpluses when Bill Clinton left office — “as far as the eye could see” was the phrase commonly used.

    By the time President Obama was sworn into office eight years later, there was the largest debt and largest deficits in history. Okay? And these are — as the President has said, these are cars that have already been purchased and vacations that have already been taken, and now it’s time to pay the bills.

    He did not say, however, when asked about this, oh, well, it’s not my responsibility; it’s Congress’s responsibility because they ran up the bills. They voted and didn’t pay for two wars; they voted and didn’t pay for substantial tax cuts, including tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and didn’t pay for them; a Medicare prescription drug program that they voted for, including every leader in that room from the Republican Party — didn’t pay for it.

    These are the obligations that we have to now pay. So — but you know what the President said? He goes, “It’s my responsibility, too. It’s my responsibility, too. I will work with Congress because we have to do this as a nation; it’s an American challenge, and we do it together.”


    • 24 Anonymous
      July 12, 2011 at 10:44 pm

      Wow. What a great answer!

      As has happened before with President Barack Hussein Obama and my uninformed opinions, I was a little skeptical of the Jay Carney hire since I remember some lame reports of his when he was at Time (not knowing how much the editors there meddle in reports). It seems though to me, every time I see a transcript or one of the few moments I’ve actually seen video of him answering questions, he seems to be really good at it and truly down with the President Obama program. Hopefully he sticks around a long time in the position.

  7. 25 Anonymous
    July 12, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    O’Donnell seems to be celebrating at the five year line here. Save the parade until after there is final passage.

    LOD always has an agenda – he’s up to something. Not anti-Obama, but LOD seems to play an insiders game and he’s trying to influence a desired outcome. I wonder if he wants the big deal the 4T deal, because if this is going exactly like he wants, he’d be better off keeping his mouth shut.

    Maybe he’s just trying to split the GOP caucus more because only progressives and teabaggers likely watch his show and if the teabaggers think they’re getting played for suckers, they’ll increase their rhetoric at Boehner and McConnell.

    Or he belives in the 14th amendment clause and thinks if the talks fell completely apart that President Obama would use the 14th amendment to raise the ceiling with no cuts having to be made.

    • 26 nintendowii10
      July 12, 2011 at 10:19 pm

      As long as Larry O isn’t bashing the President with over the top heated rhetoric and hyperbole, he can do whatever he wants. I’ve had it with Keith, Rachel, Ed, and the other professional left loudmouths who continue to bash the President and think that all his decisions revolve around their opinions and commentary. President Obama didn’t get this far by allowing these goofballs to advise him.

      • 27 hopefruit2
        July 12, 2011 at 10:51 pm

        Yes I just saw Ed Schultz trying to find a way to make the Murdoch scandal be about President Obama by blaming the DOJ for not going after Murdoch – with some ridiculous pundit claiming (falsely) that Eric Holder has an aversion to going after white collar criminals.

        • 28 nintendowii10
          July 12, 2011 at 11:13 pm

          Ed is upset that President Obama hasn’t gone after the Bush administration period. Ed doesn’t point out that would be a bad precedent because we’d have a chicken-egg conundrum of going after past Presidents, and that any sort of prosecution would take money. Unless Ed wants to raise the money himself to prosecute the Bush criminals, he should shut up about President Obama and the DOJ not going after the Bush administration or Rupert Murdoch… and plus with high unemployment numbers, how is prosecuting the Bush administration and Rupert Murdoch going to be a priority on the average American’s minds?

          • 29 isonprize
            July 12, 2011 at 11:40 pm

            I’m definitely agreeing that Dick Cheney and Co. need to be at Shawshank, but it would set lousy precedent AND waste time and money. President Obama is many things, but you gotta know ‘being practical’ is in the top five. He’s trying to get shit done.

            He doesn’t really have the time to go after Bush/Cheney. (Not that he might not want to, it’s just that he’s got a few things on his plate right about now….)

    • 30 gc
      July 12, 2011 at 10:58 pm

      I worry about MM retraction, and it’s not over until it’s over, but I don’t believe Larry O has power to influence the proceedings. None of them do.

      • 31 isonprize
        July 12, 2011 at 11:03 pm

        Turtle McConnell can retract all he wants. He’s already been credited with saying his job is to make Pres. Obama a one term president.

        If he retracts, he’ll just look like the ass that he is.

    • 32 Puddin
      July 13, 2011 at 12:50 am

      “O’Donnell seems to be elebrating at the five year line here. Save the parade until after there is final passage.” Anonymous, I was thinking the same thing when I was watching tonight (and last night). You know, people don’t like to be laughed at or made fun of…I think it is so respectful the way President Obama DOESN’T do that…he just quietly wipes the floor with faces and then go on to the next thing without grandstanding. I like President Obama’s style…Mr. Cool Breeze!

  8. 34 CTGirl
    July 12, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Underestimate my POTUS at your own peril! Someone please pass me the popcorn! Lol!

  9. 37 HZ
    July 12, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    CTGirl, you are so on point. They underestimate POTUS all the time, and then they spend the rest of the time trying to stop going to the bathroom. They better stock up on their favorite soft toilet tissue. And we will stock up on our favorite popcorn and ice tea. Cause this is going to be some kind of drama, thriller, and lovestory all wrapped up in one. Box office hit for us and our President. We keep on telling them to NOT mess with POTUS. They just will not listen.

  10. 40 mtmarilyn
    July 12, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Also looks like all the real Dems won in Wisconsin. On with the will of the people.

    I love our President!!!! He is so smart. Thank God he is The Only Adult in the Room!!!!

  11. 45 CTGirl
    July 12, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    HZ, they keep doing the same thing, over and over again! To borrow from Andrew Sullivan “Meep, Meep!”!” … Our guy is really our version of the Roadrunner. 🙂 outsmarting all those Coyotes in Congress! SMH at their insanity!

  12. 46 MrsJVD
    July 12, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Our President has an awesome Chess game. While so many would love to play basketball with and learn from him. I’d give almost ANYTHING just to observe him playing a real Chess match.

    I have very little tolerance left for any and everybody on MSNBC. They tend to somehow manage to talk some good game, from time to time. But for me…action speaks louder than words. Always have…always will!

  13. 47 Dudette
    July 12, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Thought I’d share this…
    I was browsing C-SPAN’s website earlier today and ran across a link to an interesting debt ceiling analysis from a group called the Bipartisan Policy Center. It lays out scenarios that show the trade-offs the goverment would have to make just through the end of August 2011. The analysis is based on certain priorities the government might make when deciding what to pay: (scenario #1) protect the big ticket programs vs. (scenario #2) protect the safety net programs .

    Okay, okay, I’m a nerd; I like to see numbers. Maybe it won’t be interesting for everyone. Some people’s eyes will glaze over after the 1st couple of pages. For me it’s catnip!

    The substance starts on pg 12 and goes from there. Check it out!

    Click to access Debt%20Ceiling%20Analysis%20report.pdf

  14. July 12, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    tweeting this to all of my tweeple now..!! 😀

  15. 49 Ladyhawke
    July 12, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Mayor Bloomberg, IMF – Make deal on debt ceiling now

    Why is the pressure from the financial industry on Congress and the President to raise the debt ceiling being ratcheted up now? Why are we hearing the sounds of panic from the head of the US Chamber of Commerce and Mayor Bloomberg. Supposedly we have until August 2, 2012 before we reach the ability fund the government. I suggest that the answer to that question doesn’t just relate to the inability of John “It’s not my problem” Boehner” to make a deal that his caucus will support:

    “Where’s the President’s plan?” asked House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) at a press stakeout after a GOP caucus meeting. “When’s he going to lay his cards on the table? This debt limit increase is his problem.”

    He and other caucus leaders answered President Obama’s demand that the GOP figure out a way to raise the debt limit through 2012 by offering to toss non-starter Republican wish-list items back into the negotiating mix.

    “Real controls like a Balanced Budget Amendment,” Boehner suggested, referring to a Republican-authored Constitutional ban on incurring budget deficits that would make raising taxes functionally impossible, and thus require filleting entitlement programs.

    No, the reason the Street is getting more than anxious at the current state of affairs, and why Tom Donahue and Mayor Bloomberg are speaking out publicly probably has more to do with this deadline imposed by Moody’s warning issued earlier this month regarding the US debt:

    Moody’s Investors Service said it will put the U.S. government’s Aaa credit rating under review for a downgrade unless there’s progress on increasing the debt limit by mid-July.


  16. 50 meta
    July 12, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    I just can’t believe I’m living in these times. A White House FULL of really brilliant people with good hearts and clean intentions and a crass minority who most obviously don’t care about anything except money and power. It’s incredible.

    I thank my lucky stars every single day.

  17. 51 HZ
    July 13, 2011 at 12:00 am

    It still hurts like hell that all of the mess that was left for President Obama is so much, and everyone from every town, city, and state just wants to blame him. This is the part that is so painful to us when we hear and see the mean-spirited people giving their two cents. However, President Obama keeps working hard with the right attitude and take the responsibility and do his job, but still gets kicked in the behind. That hurts like hell for me. But he keeps us focus and he gives us strength each day to keep working hard and fighting the good fight for the better. I have never seen a President like him in my lifetime, and I have seen many. But we are going to make it and we are going to Win in 2012. Count on it.

    • 52 P
      July 13, 2011 at 12:52 am

      Well said! I really really really hope both sides get this debt ceiling issue worked out because its going to have a disastrous effect and we do not need the economic situation to get any worse! Sometimes I feel like some Republicans have no heart..this problem is not going to affect Obama as he clearly states he is very fortunate; it’s the poor people who are already suffering! It’s a sad affair!

  18. 53 howgenrl2@gmail.com
    July 13, 2011 at 12:46 am

    On topic – http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2011/7/12/17758/0697

    I actually read all the comments on this Booman post and was pleasantly surprised (= shocked) to find them 90+% supportive of the President’s handling of the GOre the debt ceiling!

  19. July 13, 2011 at 12:55 am

    Is it just that I am very protective of my President or was Scott Pelley a dick in that interview?

  20. July 13, 2011 at 1:14 am


    Bibi Netanyahu agrees to settlement talks along 1967 lines!


    • 59 Titti
      July 13, 2011 at 6:59 am

      Why all the bravado and posturing then? PBO is making a lot of people show their azzes and looking like the fools they really and truly are.

  21. 60 Tally
    July 13, 2011 at 2:53 am

    Check and mate.

  22. 62 nathkatun7
    July 13, 2011 at 3:58 am

    Please people, listen to what Mitch McConnell said: He doesn’t think that the debt ceiling will be resolved so long as “this President” is in the White House. This whole manufactured crisis has absolutely nothing to do with debt and deficit. It’s all about the “this President” who is in the White House. I plan on sending Mitch an e-mail asking him to clarify if he thinks that this whole issue would be resolved if President Obama pledges tomorrow that he will resign or that won’t run for re-election.

    I am so disgusted by the media for failing to press McConnell on his blatantly obvious statement that this whole crisis is aimed at denying President Obama a second term. Here is my question: Is the Republican party prepared to plunge the country in economic chaos because they believe that is the surest way of denying President Obama a second term? This is a questions that must be constantly asked of the Republicans. This crisis is not about economics, debt ceiling, deficits, or jobs. This crisis is all about the fact that Mitch McConnell and the Republicans don’t want a President, elected by the majority of Americans, in the White House. The question to McConnell is WHY? Why doesn’t he believe he can reach a deal with a duly elected President? Why is he now opposing raising a debit ceiling when he has never before done that?

  23. July 13, 2011 at 9:31 am

    Lawrence has been on a ROLL!!

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