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…..and the gop carry on playing with people’s lives

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Steve Benen: The correlation is probably not a coincidence: the more House Speaker John Boehner loses control of his caucus, the more he loses his cool”

Burned by the fact that their prescription for reducing the deficit and increasing the national borrowing limit either can’t pass in Congress or doesn’t cut spending enough to warrant, in their minds, a significant debt ceiling hike, House Republicans returned to the Capitol Tuesday to ratchet up their demands, and shirk responsibility for avoiding default.

“Where’s the President’s plan?” asked House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) at a press stakeout after a GOP caucus meeting. “When’s he going to lay his cards on the table? This debt limit increase is his problem.”

Just so we’re clear, in three weeks, the United States will exhaust its ability to pay its bills. The economy will deteriorate and millions of Americans will suffer. John Boehner knows all of this – he’s never even tried to deny the severity of the consequences – and has the ability to prevent it. Indeed, by most measures, he has a legal obligation to protect the full faith and credit of the United States.

But as of today, with the crisis quickly approaching, the Speaker of the House, one of the most powerful officeholders in our system of government, has decided this isn’t his “problem.”

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34 Responses to “…..and the gop carry on playing with people’s lives”


  1. July 12, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Jay carney on cspan 2!

    • 2 Ladyhawke
      July 12, 2011 at 2:09 pm

      Just about every question was about TONE and PROCESS. If the feckless media did their job of reporting the facts it would be helpful. All the reporters do is read comments from their blackberries from xyz politician and ask Jay what he thinks. What an embarrassment.

      This is precisely why the American people are clueless about what is going on. What we need is for journalists to be asking the Republicans the tough questions and challenging their outlandish responses. It’s not that complicated.

      1) Ask Boehner, Cantor and McConnell about the 19 times the debt limit was raised during the Bush administration.

      2) Ask Boehner, Cantor and McConnell about the fact that President Clinton left a surplus and President Bush put tax cuts for the wealthy, two wars and medicare part D on the credit card. These are debts that congress made.

      3) Ask Boehner, Cantor and McConnell why they are violating their oath of office. Congress has a responsibility to pay our nations debt.

      4) Ask Boehner, Cantor and McConnell when they plan to start acting like adults and doing their job.

  2. 3 nintendowii10
    July 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Of course, it’s now that the media is recognizing President Obama as the calm negotiator and the Republicans as obstructionists. We here at TOD and TOADITR have recognized it from day one of his Presidency, he’s got to deal with obstructionists on both sides of the aisle.

    God bless this man!

  3. July 12, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    I put Mitch McConnell’s DC number on twitter and now I can’t get through. His office must be getting slammed. It’s 202-224-2541 in case you want to call him about his bigoted statement. Can’t find a twitter name for him. Does anyone know it?

    • 5 gc
      July 12, 2011 at 1:42 pm

      hank you, Proud. I will consider that you couldn’t get through POSITIVE news.

      • 6 utaustinliberal
        July 12, 2011 at 1:49 pm

        Good on ya Proud! PBO is right. There isn’t any guarantee that SS checks, Medicare and Medicaid benefits and Veterans benefits will go out on August 3rd. TIm Geithner already said it’ll be a landmine trying to decide who recieves benefits and who doesn’t. How do you decide one group is more worthy of benefits than another. This is why people say the GOP is holding America hostage.

    • 7 HZ
      July 12, 2011 at 2:01 pm

      Thanks for the number placed here proudofobama. I just called the number and I did speak with an a young lady in Sen. Mcconnell’s office. I told her what I wanted him to know. I was polite But I was firm. At least she heard me, and I know that my words are out there and the message was received.

    • 8 M
      July 12, 2011 at 3:13 pm

      I kind of hate to ask, but I missed whatever Mitch said. What happened that I missed?

      Thanks for spreading the phone number proud!

      • 9 M
        July 12, 2011 at 4:28 pm

        Was this regarding the ” no deficit deal until Obama is gone” statement by mitch mcConnel? I have come across that news headline and i am thinking maybe that is specifically what you were referring to Proud.

        • 10 Anonymous
          July 12, 2011 at 6:17 pm

          This statement is saying that a certain section of the Republicans is prepared to ignore the will of the electorate and actively act against that will.
          This is tantamount to treason.
          These people are the worst elected officials the US of A has ever had.

    • 11 kefauver
      July 12, 2011 at 3:23 pm

      “Can’t find a twitter name for him. Does anyone know it?”

      DroopyFromKY?

  4. 13 collegekay
    July 12, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    I am so pissed off. Like really. This is getting so old. The reasonable Republicans are gone and all the crazy asses have taken over. It’s unbelievable how much hatred a party can have toward one man. They can’t stand the fact that a Black man is their boss. Yeah, I said that shit!

    • 14 nintendowii10
      July 12, 2011 at 1:43 pm

      from goblue72 @ Ballon-juice:

      Healthcare reform that included largest expansion in Medicaid in several generations. ARRA Stimulus with massive spending on green initiatives. Saving the American auto industry. Two liberal broads appointed to the Supreme Court – a Jew & a Puerto Rican. Lilly Ledbetter. Ending DADT. Finding Osama bin Laden and putting a bullet in his head. He even appointed some Asian physicist nerd from BERKELEY to be in charge of our nuclear program fer chrissakes.

      All the while dealing with an economic DEPRESSION, with the opposition party being composed of down-and-out neo-Confedrate traitorous scumbags and the entire corporate kleptocracy allied against him.

      ALL THE WHILE PRESIDENTING WHILE BLACK. With a Muslim-y name.

      Let me repeat – MoFo WON the Presidency. While Black. With a Muslim name.

      But no – some white dude in his pajamas and a keyboard knows the politics better than he does.

      • 15 isonprize
        July 12, 2011 at 1:49 pm

        nintendo. I’ve reposted that twice!!! So TRUE, that GoBLUE!!! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!

      • 16 collegekay
        July 12, 2011 at 1:51 pm

        Yessss fucking yes! Putting this on my tumblr. Thanks

      • 17 lisalovesobama
        July 12, 2011 at 4:14 pm

        True, nintendo. So true.

      • 18 Walking_on_ Sunshine
        July 12, 2011 at 9:44 pm

        That’s priceless! Thanks for the best laugh I’ve had in a while!

        “PRESIDENTING WHILE BLACK. With a Muslim-y name.”

        It’s all true!

        They are loosing their collective noodles over this! 🙂 🙂 🙂

    • 19 gc
      July 12, 2011 at 1:47 pm

      I think they are well beyond that at this point.. They are fighting for some CAUSE now. Their egos are on the line No thinking involved. Gotta win, cause, well, gotta win, cause, I’ll DIE if I don’t. They are all screaming Tweeties now.

      Their teabag followers probably think “hate Blacks” though, 24/7.

  5. 20 DTTM
    July 12, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Thanks for the CBS link, Chips. Things are getting serous now.

  6. 21 lisalovesobama
    July 12, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    Whoa Ms. Chips. This 45 second clip is the most important takeaway message in this entire debt ceiling debate. It’s brutally honest and horribly painful to hear. Damn, this president has steel cojones. This message is going to resonate far and wide: If repugs don’t act, everyone will suffer.

    • 22 gc
      July 12, 2011 at 1:49 pm

      WE knew that. The right is too stupid, the screaming left too biased to accept it, but WE knew it.

    • 23 isonprize
      July 12, 2011 at 1:54 pm

      But that’s the thing, LisaLO, EVERYBODY WON’T SUFFER.

      Folks who can afford $350 bottles of wine will not suffer.
      Folks who don’t care that college students don’t need more bills won’t suffer.
      Folks who want poor people to pay more taxes won’t suffer.

      Only regular folk will suffer. And Republicans don’t care about regular folks. Even the asshole Teabaggers who receive veterans checks and SS checks will suffer. And Republicans don’t care about them either.

      • 24 Bobfr
        July 12, 2011 at 2:31 pm

        Respectfully need to disagree. The world has never seen it’s single largest economy default on its debt obligations.

        Even the wealthiest people on the planet will suffer in ways we have no capacity to even imagine.

        Just look at the turmoil because of the situation in comparatively trivial economies like Greece and Italy. If the Republicans were allowed to force America to lapse on its debt obligations, you’d see a conflagration in world markets that would make WWII and the Great Depression look like nothing.

        It won’t happen. I know that the President will exercise Section 4 of the XIV Amendment and order the Treasury to proceed with business as usual if the Republicans fail to govern responsibly. He simply has to. It’s the law and he’s both a scholar and a President fully aware of the law.

        Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  7. 25 nintendowii10
    July 12, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Just received this email from Ms. Debbie Wasserman Shultz:

    My first campaign made me an organizer.

    Every day, through a hot Florida summer, I knocked on doors and asked my neighbors for their support. I had five opponents in that primary, but on Election Day, I beat every single one of them — with 53 percent of the vote.

    Since that race, I’ve known exactly how important organizing can be. It taught me the principles I hope to bring to the Democratic Party as its Chair.

    On my first day in this job, I recorded a short video to talk about my plans for our party. Watch it, then pledge to join us for some organizing on July 16th — when we’ll register voters and ask supporters to commit to help elect President Obama and Democrats up and down the ticket in 2012.

    Check out the video, then sign up for our Day of Action.

    Watch the video

    We have big fights ahead, and I want to win them. In order to re-elect the President and win new majorities in Congress, we have to lay the groundwork for those victories now. That means getting started with good, old-fashioned organizing. That’s the message I’ve taken with me to supporters in the 15 states I’ve already visited as Chair.

    But it also means embracing new ideas.

    When I started, Patrick Gaspard brought me some suggestions that supporters like you submitted to help us make our party better.

    I read feedback from people like Bill in Michigan who asked us to expand our organizing programs and Dick in Pennsylvania who said, “The message of all the good the President has done and accomplished must be communicated at the personal level by people in each community.”

    I saw ideas from supporters like Kolman in Ohio and Alan in New York — who suggested that we deploy the power of charts, graphics, and striking multimedia to help win arguments and strengthen the facts of our case.

    I heard from those like Vanessa in Colorado, who asked us to focus on research and messaging to push back against smears from our opponents, and Angela in North Carolina, who said, “Arm me with facts so I can counter the misinformation my friends seem to have on the tip of their tongues.”

    This is exactly the kind of thinking — smart and supporter-driven — that I want to guide our work. That’s part of why I’m so excited about this job.

    Are you ready to get to work with me? Join Democrats for our Day of Action on July 16th:

    http://my.democrats.org/July-16-Day-Of-Action

    Thanks,

    Debbie

    Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz
    Chair
    Democratic National Committee

  8. 26 globalcitizenlinda
    July 12, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    ha, ha, ha, I really love the concept of Karma which seems to be visiting the debt & deficit talks and the greedy rich.

    remember how the US Chamber of Commerce and many in the business community bankrolled the gop 2010 primary election and the right wing nutjobs it produced in congress and senate? Of course President Obama was then their number one enemy followed by anyone who run as a Democrat.

    well well, it is good to see the corrupt chamber reap what it sowed as it tries to reason and threaten the deadbeat gop into raising the debt ceiling!!!!

    I found this article to be very enlighighting about the shortsighted personal greedy of the rich which has come back to bite them in just a few months. here goes :

    “Congress hears outcry from business lobby on debt ceiling and deficit”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/congress-hears-outcry-from-business-lobby-on-debt-ceiling-and-deficit/2011/07/12/gIQAiVGpAI_story.html

    whose wealth is being more threatened now?

    well, well, chamber and wall street, you lie with the dogs and you pick up the fleas

  9. July 12, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/07/12/progressive-pundits-punching-down-k-o-kos-disabled-lady/

    Sorry for the OT but I saw this piece and just had to send it out so others know that PBO doing what he has said he would and the seniors and sane people are with him…. not the PL

  10. July 12, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    BREAKING: McConnell Opens the Escape Hatch

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2011/07/mcconnell_opens_the_escape_hatch.php

    We’re just getting the first word on this. So the details may be subject to clarification. But Senate Minority Leader has just suggested the GOP will give President Obama his debt limit increase without any spending cuts with a legislative maneuver that in essence allows Republicans to say it’s all Obama’s fault.

    • 31 Debz
      July 12, 2011 at 3:40 pm

      That plan sounds absurd, all congress has to do is have an up or down vote on raising the debt limit and PBO has already said he will not sign onto some short term BS. i hope that idiot Harry Reid does not go along with this. This is just making the President do their F***ing job for them.

      • 32 Ladyhawke
        July 12, 2011 at 4:12 pm

        Why should PBO do this when all congress needs to do is a CLEAN DEBT LIMIT bill?????

        Reposting from earlier today……

        RESOLVING THE DEBT CEILING CRISIS IN FIVE MINUTES:

        GOP leaders insist they can’t do this because their political philosophy won’t let them. This might be slightly less laughable if they hadn’t already raised the debt ceiling — many times and without conditions — just a few years ago.

        Off the top of my head, I can’t think of any potential crisis that’s so serious and yet so easy to resolve. Indeed, by some measures, the 14th Amendment actually compels Congress to act, suggesting policymakers have a constitutional obligation to protect the full faith and credit of the United States.

        This entire dispute can end in five minutes, at which point, the parties can go back to arguing. But Republicans don’t care. It’s the greatest scandal Americans haven’t heard much about.

        http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/resolving_the_debtceiling_disp030802.php

  11. 34 nathkatun7
    July 13, 2011 at 12:04 am

    It is very important for us to be clear about what’s happening with the Republican controlled Congress and their media enablers. They’ve received their marching orders from Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and and all the assortments of teabaggers, to use this phony issue of raising the debt ceiling to bring down the presidency of Barak Obama. What happens to the country really doesn’t concern them. If people have to suffer in order to defeat President Obama, so be it. This is really what is going on. Never once in my life time, of 60+ years, have I ever seen congress go crazy about raising the debt ceiling. With all the Republican high minded talk about debt and deficit , I bet you that if President Obama were to announce tomorrow that he will not be running for re-election, Republicans would quickly, and overwhelmingly, vote to raise the debt ceiling. I repeat, It’s important for us to zero in on the real issue why Republicans keep doubling down. They couldn’t defeat Obama over health care, they were not able to engineer a government shut down. The debt ceiling is their last stand. If they cant plunge the economy back in a severe recession, or a deep depression for that matter, they know they will not be able to deny President Obama a second term. This is what this is all about. The question is what are we Obama supporters prepared to do, on a mass scale, to counter this? This is really serious business. We keep expecting that Wall Street and the Business community won’t allow these deranged people to destroy the country because of their hatred of the President. But I am no longer sure that these crazy people can be stopped unless people mobilize massively to counter them.


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