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‘Obama’s message on debt is just right’
Stephen Stromberg (Washington Post): … the central message that President Obama delivered at his Monday press conference on negotiations to raise the federal debt ceiling was exactly right: “If not now, when?”
…. Obama called out Republicans, informing them that they will need to give on something to get an agreement… “I’m prepared to take on significant heat from my party to get something done,” Obama said. Will Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell develop the spines to take heat from their base, too?
…. Is Obama just making a play for the middle? Possibly. But outside of conservative circles – in which raising a nickel of federal revenue anywhere, anytime is apostasy and federal budgeting is too often an exercise in ideological fantasy – the president sounded measured, diplomatic and fair. If he reaps political benefits from that, he should.
Full article here – Thanks Proud
The Obama Diary 
I am logged on to whitehouse.gov to watch the press conference. Unfortunately, right now we have the specter of the jackals doing news packages for their respective networks. I can’t put into words how much I loathe these people. The feckless media is a big part of the problem why so many Americans don’t have clue about what the Republican Party has done to our government.
Definitely, Ladyhawke. As I’ve stated many times before, the MSM is simply an extended arm of the Republican party. Once people are aware of this and begin to look elsewhere for the “truth” about what’s going on, the MSM will no longer be able to exploit and manipulate the public at the GOP’s behest.
Ladyhawke- my sentiments exactly when I saw them up there preening their ugly asses.
Thanks Ladyhawke for speaking TRUTH! Unlike people who are always criticizing the WH about messaging, the reason why many Americans think that the two parties are equally to blame for the economic mess we are in is purely a result of the MSM.
Ugh. I see the 3 Douches(Chip, Chuck and Tapper) are standing there, trying to look important. 🙄
They crammed their Koch-sponsored GOP talking points early this morning. They are ready to regurgitate – and get their arses bitchslapped by the President.
This is like catnip for them. They are not serious journalists, they are gossip columnists. What would they do without their precious blackberries??
I do not like The Todd, but I find Chip and Tapper to be vile creatures who live on slim.
slime.
Hahaha. I was glad that POTUS didn’t call on Jake and Chuck.
Why are four people standing when everybody else is sitting? What are they guards? Prefects, controlling the class till teacher comes? Why are they just standing there? 🙄
Here!
Got my whitehouse.gov feed up as well as CSPAN.
I’m re-posting this from an earlier thread:
Here is a good comparison chart showing the number of Republican votes to increase the debt ceiling since 1997. As anyone can readily see, the GOP’s anti-debt ceiling increase only started once Obama became president (2009-present). Before 2009, they were voting in the majority for debt ceiling increases. The data is in plain view. The facts are there. No spin or “interpretation” necessary. The numbers speak for themselves.
http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/1500-The-Republicans-Haven-t-Always-Been-Against-Raising-the-Debt-Ceiling
This is true of many other supposed stances of the Republican party. They are NOT honest brokers. They are NOT negotiating in good faith. They want President Obama to fail, and consequently want the country and the American people to fail. The MSM is an extended arm of the Republican party, and should be treated as such.
Absolutely correct. Before now, most Americans didn’t know what a debt ceiling was, because congress just automatically raised it. It never was this big obsfucation and bruhaha it’s turning out to be. The debt that’s under discussion is debt that was heavily incurred under the GWB Administration and has NOTHING to do with President Obama. Now the repubs want to show how “strong” they are by posturing. This is where they have gone wrong, because the force that is President Obama will crush them.
Who do you think will be the biggest asshole? Chuck Todd or Jake Tapper or someone else?
No question it will be Jake (with the permanent snarl) Tapper. Any question he asks will be “dripping” with sarcasm, snark and gotcha.
is there option 3 as is ALL of them? 🙄
I agree with you Fred – the correct answer is “all of the above!”
I’m hearing PBO, but I can’t see him
Are you on the whitehouse gov site? If so, then there might be a problem with your internet access streaming feed.
luci, try refreshing your page.
Does this link work for you Luci?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/president-obama-speaks-status-efforts-find-balanced-approach-deficit-reduction-0
Now we can add Jessica Yellin to the idiot wrecking crew.
she’s always been an idiot Meta;you’re just figuring it out
What I meant is that she just got appointed to the WH press corps. I don’t watch the cable stupidity.
Tapper. He’s a total and complete asshole. His mother was gonna name him Asshole. It’s likely his middle name. I feel so sorry for his family. He must humiliate them everyday with his BS.
he’s bringing home the bacon and I bet his wife is happy parading in all the DC cocktail parties so I bet she’s keeping her trap shut Lisa
I agree with Lisa. Tapper wins douchebag of the year. Chuck can be annoying to the extreme but sometimes he makes good points. Tapper is just an ass every second of the day.
lisa, your words are music to my ears.
anyone else having this issue??
I hear and see him on whitehouse.gov
Obama is speaking reasonably. I don’t think the repubs know what reasonable is . We must keep this President in our prayers.
“This is the United States of America – we don’t manage our affairs in 3-month increments.” PBO, 07/11/09.
Thank you President Obama.
Yep- love that.
Grown ups rule!
Oops I meant, PBO, 07/11/11.
For me he sounds like a chipmunk? Sounds funny. lol
New headphones had to change setting, lol I’m so technically challenged..
“Pull off the bandaid, eat our peas”
😉
Chipsticks – he was speaking directly to you when he said “you have to eat your peas Chipsticks” – didn’t you hear him say that to you? 😆
And GGail, I was able to look him in the eye and truthfully reply: “I always eat my peas, Mr President. Always.” I think that perked him up.
I think it did too 🙂
Heh… “eat our peas”. Breaking it down Mr. President. As the repubs like to say: “Man UP”.
Of course the first question is what will happen. This President is telling people he is ready to do the job. If they mean what they say.
Those millionaires, billionaires can afford their fair share. No balancing the budget on the middle class.
Not about increasing taxes.. about getting rid of “agregious loopholes”.. and increasing revenues via millionaires & billionaires going back to what they were in the past.
So Mr. Cantor LIAR.. and Adam Green LIAR.. POTUS is not attempting to increase taxes.
Keep lying about President Obama scam artists and Media.. he’ll keep punching holes in your bs.
POTUS willing to take heat from his party, and he has, yet the Republicans aren’t willing to take heat from their party for being bipartisan!
“I have bent over backwards to work with Republicans”
THIS is the truth.Tell it like it is Sir.
” if the basis proposition is my way or the high way is the deal then there is no deal”
Yes yes yes
UGH shut up Chip (not Ms. Chips, but Reid)!
I was about to ask: “WHAT DID I SAY???”
😆
why the fuck should Pawlenty;Romney or Bachmann be in the room during negotiations Cheip Reid? what kind of fucking question is that?
Only Bachmann should have been mentioned, and just because she is a House member, who cares what TPaw or Mittens think?
Chip Reid is a tool!
Exactly Fred. WTF could TPaw, Flip flopping Romney and batshit crazy Bachmann contribute to the discussions?
Exactly Fred. The GOP presidential candidates are not elected officials in THIS government. Who cares what they think. Leave it to Chip Reid to as such a stupid question. What Chip Reid should be asking is how egregious is it that current Republican “elected officials” are violating their oath of office.
Chip Reid is stupid.
freak media trying to make it a ‘failure’ by POTUS that this hasn’t concluded yet. Such gop mouthpieces these whitehouse press corp. For shame.
It’s how you PHRASE the question. Thank you Mr. President!!!!
I believe that CBS poll was a fake. I’ve seen a plethora of polls that show the public want the debt ceiling raised. They know if it isn’t raised, the country goes to hell in a handbasket.
yeah, I thought the same thing when he said that. Fucking tool.
Chip Reid deserves one huge f*ck you and f*ck off
The politicians who say we shouldn’t raise the debt limit are reckless. This isn’t a small thing. The elected officials must do the right thing
PBO SCHOOLING Chip Reid on polling tactics. Idiot!!
This is why I dislike the media: tools like Chip Reid who ask irrelevant questions like “Why aren’t the Republican Presidential candidates involved, and polls say that x amount of folks are against raising the debt ceiling.”
For all we know, they could have polled a whole bunch of Fox News viewers and got the numbers from there, and Chip Reid is a tool for even using such polls, and bringing up the Republican clown circus into this presser.
The public doesn’t understand the whole concept of “debt ceiling”. And no one in the media is bothering to clarify. In fact, they all seem happy as a clam that the public is in the dark about this subject. They have aired multiple clips of Michelle Bachmann screeching that she will not allow the debt ceiling to be raised without rebuttal or explanation. They just sit there like dumbos.
This President is working for ALL Americans. Even the ones who don’t like him. This is what makes him a great man. I am so thankful he is our President!!!!
SS is not the reason for the deficit. The reason to do it now is to make it stronger.
This President is TOO intelligent and too smart for these clowns in the press corps. They are no different than the freaking tabloids!
This is schooling those stupids reporters. He is doing the job that they should be doing.
President Obama seems really fed up with the scum republicans.
can you blame him PoO?
thanks for liveblogging, everybody — can’t watch right now.
am I the only one who’s whitehouse feed stops and starts whenever POTUS is on? It happens everytime for me. I’ve now missed half of everything he’s said.
nope, I even went to C-span but that wasn’t working so I finally HAD to turn on the tv and immediately turned to C-span. 😕
I am listening on whitehouse.gov and not having a problem. It is your browser?
I don’t know what the problem is marilyn. Whether I use IE or Firefox, same issue. anyway I did get to hear the last few minutes without it stopping.
PBO is on fire!!! He’s talking about Rusty and the fact that he’s on the endangered species list! PBO says Rusyt is a good man basically dealing with a tough caucus.
lawdhammercy!
he drop kicked Boehner’s arse saying that the politics that swept him into office were good for the midterms but not good for governing.
Fred, we were on the same page. I posted the same thing, didn’t see you had already posted. That was just beautiful.
I laughed so hard when he said that. It’s pretty much the equivalent of if you lie with dogs, don’t be surprised if you wake up infested with fleas. You court the monster that is the teaparty and when they begin to devour you, one cannot complain.
I know!! I let out a big whoop when he said that one. Go, Mr. President, Go!
Yup! he pulled off the kid gloves and told it like it is! I bet we will be getting more of that kind of talk. Like when that female reporter asked “what are your alternative plans” and he said “we’ll get it done by Aug 2”.
his voice was very stern and precise when he said that, like: “Fuck ’em, no ifs and or buts about it. It’ll be done by Aug. 2nd.” He’s not playing. Little Lord Cantor can lord it all over Rusty for all he wants, but PBO is gonna crush him real good if he doesn’t get a deal.
This last question about all this affecting the poor, seniors, etc. He is giving a very thoughtful answer about how he understands what is happening.
“Politics that are good for being swept into office are NOT good for governing.” PBO, 07/11/11
He is giving an account of all the bills the dems are putting forward but the repubs are doing anything.
And POTUS walks out a winner once more!
PBO did great 🙂
Yes he really clearly explained everything- so that anyone ought to understand what is happening and what he wants to see happen.
And he made it pretty darn clear that the obstruction is coming from the ‘tea party’ kooks who now control the repubs.. without every having to say the words.
As always “The Only Adult in the Room”.
I was out of my seat with this, paraphrasing…….
Speaker Boehner got swept into office with rhetoric that was good for the midterms but not so good for governing. Tell it Mr. President.
That’s the takeaway right there.
Right, campaigning is easy, governing is hard.
This was again, another masterful press conference. President Obama schooled the press, and put that Reid Chip boy back in his pitiful place.
The president very artfully reminded his Repblican colleagues in congress that the politics that were good for sweeping the midterms are NOT good for governing. Unfortunately, John Boehner is now learning this the hard way, and some of the GOPers still haven’t learned this lesson.
Our President was brilliant (and may I add he sure looked fine today) and I hate the WH press corp. Chip Reid is a fool! POTUS took them all to school and he laid it on the line about Boehner.
Didn’t he look good, Donna? He just looks like a president, a statesman. And he told the truth about the republicans pretending they care about deficits so much then when he says alright, let’s get it done, they stomp their feet and walk out.
Well, I just watched the full conference. That was the clearest call to fish or cut bait that I’ve ever seen. If they are serious — let’s do this.
The thing is that the President is not only throwing down the gauntlet on the debt ceiling, he is cutting off the legs of every argument the GOP has. He is calling them on every bit of BS they have been selling.
I loved how he said he wasn’t going to kick this down the road and that he was looking after the next generation, too.
Great job, President Obama!
And when that reporter asked whether the WH had any contingency plans in case they hadn’t resolved the problem – the President immediately and firmly set her straight – “We will have this done by August 2nd.”
No ifs, ands or buts.
But the interesting thing is that he hasn’t tipped his hand about what will happen if Republicans STILL aren’t budging by then.
So for them, it’s either compromise or find out what Plan B is. And I do believe they have a Plan B.
Yep. And trust me republicans dont want to find out what Plan B is, so they’d do well to buck up and act like adults.
So right. PBO always has a plan B. He never wants to use it i.e.: at the twitter town hall that question about section 4 of the 14th Amendment. PBO was like: “it shouldn’t get to that.” PBO always has a plan B, he’ll go with option A even though it’s painful and may cost him politically, but he’ll do it anyway for the good of democracy and to show that Washington can work, but Lord help the repugs if they pass up on plan A. PBO never likes using plan B because that shit is one dangerous kick ass, take no prisoners option and PBO always tries to be fair. If Little Lord Cantor overplays this bid, woe betide him and his psychopath caucus.
PLan B….14th Amendment
– he wasn’t going to kick this down the road and that he was looking after the next generation, too.
This is what I love about PBO. He ran for office to get things done for the common good of all Americans. He is showing what it means to be an adult and actually govern. The problem is that the Republicans have turned kicking the can down the road into an art form because they haven’t got a clue about what it means to govern. And the media continues to report on the GOP as if they are a credible opposition party.
He did great.
Eat your PEAS. Let’s move. Yup.
So then, If the Repubs vote no to raising the taxes for the wealthy, then there’s no deal. It’s the Repubs thats not working
Pbo says that ever so softly
OT: Murdoch’s supposedly ‘respectable’ British paper, The Sunday Times, is now caught up in hacking scandal:
The Sunday Times is alleged to have targeted the personal information of the former Prime Minister Gordon Brown at the time he was chancellor, a BBC investigation has found.
Documents and a phone recording suggest “blagging” was used to obtain private financial and property details.
The Browns also fear medical records relating to their son Fraser, whom the Sun revealed in 2006 had cystic fibrosis, may have been obtained.
News International is yet to respond.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14112097
Beyond belief. Please let this ******’s empire crumble.
Next, Faux Noos?
Oh gawd 😦 poor Gordon Brown.
And all the rats begin to fall down like dominoes. Hopefully Fox News is next.
we never did lsearn who supposedly hacked that false info about the President…i believe that it was not a hacker but someone at FOX news…did the dirty deed
Chica, what is “blagging” ?
Is that illegal wiretapping (phone stuff)? Or is it hacking (computer stuff)? Or some newfangled British word?
I had to look it up myself isonprize!
Blagging. The Guardian reports that this could include obtaining access to confidential databases, such as telephone accounts, bank records and information held by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Authority, which is covered by a different law, the 1998 Data Protection Act: “Section 55 makes it an offence to gain unauthorised access to such data, punishable by a fine. However, unlike RIPA, this offence carries a public interest defence.”
http://blogs.journalism.co.uk/editors/2009/07/10/tappinghackingblagging-unpicking-the-terminology/
Thanks, Chica. I didn’t think to look it up. duh….
ooooh, although I still think Rupert has enough $$ to buy his way out of this, I hope this mess, somehow, someway, is the beginning of the end to his evil doings.. (It COULD happen and a girl can hope, right? RIGHT???)
Yes we can hope!
At the very least, it should open a few eyes to what a vile media empire he runs – pure evil.
Thanks for the definition, Chips. I was hallucinating that “blagging” might have been in some way related to Rod Blagojevich. Wouldn’t that have been insane??
Ha, same level of ‘ethics’ AJ!
blag [blæg] Slang
n
a robbery, esp with violence
vb blags, blagging, blagged (tr)
1. to obtain by wheedling or cadging she blagged free tickets from her mate
2. to snatch (wages, someone’s handbag, etc.); steal
3. to rob (esp a bank or post office)
Thanks Tien Le. With that meaning, Ol’ Rupie has been blaggin’ for most of his business life!!!
I thought blagging meant doing something secretive with Blagojevich.
GMTA!!!
Karma is a beech….
THIS
Can we only hope. I am a great believer in what goes around comes around. I do believe Murdoch will pay for all the hurt, lies, deceit, etc he has done. He is evil.
Just beyond despicable. They clearly controlled everything. Hacking the Queen, government. Sickening.
Murdoch’s world is unraveling.
I believe that you are right in this observation MTmarilyn. You just can’t continue to go around and hurt people , it does come back to you.
It was also important for him to clarify that the so-called tax increases don’t take place until 2013.
I’m glad he did that, because the repubs have been spreading the false meme that tax increases will be job killers. A lot of these revenue streams don’t kick in immediately. Some could kick in towards the end of 2012 and others could kick in, in 2013.
So, having missed the whole presser 😦 😦 you guys are great. I got the gist of the meeting. PBO was fine and fantastic, as usual.
But now what? What are the next proposed steps? They will continue meeting, yes? How is it that Cantor gets to call some of the shots?
They’re actually meeting right now with POTUS in the whitehouse. He told them that they have to bring specific not general ideas of where there could be agreements; so they can reacch a deal in a timely manner; well before August 2nd, 2011.
He gave Speaker Boner the DEATH COMPLIMENT 😆 😆 😆 cry me a river.
I know, right? Tweety played a clip of Boehner from Laura Ingraham’s show. He was selling wolf tickets about what he told the President. You know like the pretend bully who’s really just a coward. What a fool.
Sounds great, guys. Thanks TOD Fam.
I love the backhanded praise he’s giving to Boner, lol. 😈
The debt ceiling will be raised n– I’ve never doubted that. However, additionally, it seems like PBO is going to go for the maximum political gain. Good for him and us.
PJ, I’ve always believed it would be raised, but how? Did Pres. Obama state next steps?
I don’t know about next steps….I was not able to listen in.
My hunch is that the debt ceiling vote will be done separately — in a “clean bill” (which really was the plan from the beginning).
The other negotiations were lumped in with the debt ceiling issue — and I haven’t yet unraveled who exactly did that — whether it was “11th dimensional chess” by PBO, or teapublican shenanigans. But now that the teapubs have shown their asses, it’s obvious that they will probably welcome going back to square one and just raising the ceiling like they should have done before all this hullaballoo.
I think somebody’s lunch is about to get eaten.
You are so right.
A clean bill really is the only way to do it, and every day the GOP delays the closer this gets to reality. I can only hope it happens, since it will be a wonderful opportunity to call them the thieving, freeloading deadbeats they truly are – The GOP are those losers who eat a meal in a fancy restaurant they can’t afford, then walk out on the check. That is THEFT. THEFT IS ILLEGAL. THEFT IS A FELONY. Felons can neither VOTE nor HOLD OFFICE.
THIS MAN IS A POLITICAL ANIMAL. Everytime I hear people freak out about his chances of reelection I just sit back and nod in disbelief. Many people didn’t vote for him because they were unfamiliar with A black Man as President. Now they have seen him in action crisis after crisis and they look at the alternative God for bid Bachman Romney, Pleaseeeeee.
Yes ma’am!
BO is such a dear man, really dear. He lauded Boehner with compliments and tried to defend Boehner’s position within his wacko caucus by saying this.
The politics that swept John Boehner into the speakership is good for mid-term elections but not for governing. There are some members of his caucus that have not arrived at understanding what their job entails.
I can put it up more bluntly: those members were never ready for primetime and should have been kept in the back office. They are for the most part male version of “I am not a witch” gal from VT. (Allen West, Black man from Fl, comes to mind. That man should either have remained in the Army or try out in a body builder competition. His vitriol has no place in Congress.)
Regarding BO’s comment, this is exactly what I was thinking yesterday vis-à-vis Boehner who, too, has been taking hostage by the Tea-Party and those who listened to Glen Beck or Boss Limbaugh. I hope he learned his lesson: never have wackos vote for you when you know full well that their popular views are extreme, their lens flawed, their worldview obtuse, and their knowledge of things practical very limited. It is one thing to have all these Republicans in the House, it is another to make them seat and follow more sophisticated strategies than just say no. Really, can you take a bunch of High Schoolers and give them a final exam for a course before College graduation?
As the Repugs elect their presidental nominee, let’s hope they are smart enough to keep in mind the problem of having Tea-Baggers among their midst. These people are crazy as crazy gets. They live in a parallele universe and think of themselves Zeus’s envoys to save America. I don’t believe they either read newspapers (real ones, not local ones or tabloid) or listen to anything else besides Fixed Noise. These are the people that may be responsible for the depletion of our 401k or a collapse of the global market. Is that all we can do? Elect half-witted psychopaths?
LOL@ “try out in a body builder competition” !
Yes, I agree, these asylum escapees were never ready for primetime and they need to be put back into their cells.
But the Repubs used the tea party folks ,,,and their rhetoric…the birther people…and all that insanity..to gather momentum and gain contol of the House…now instead of being able to control them…they are being controlled…
and thereby…trying to hold us all hostage…..
I hold the PL, the FauxEmoProgs who told everyone to stay home and not vote to send the Dems a message, like Ed Schultz resonsible.
Fucking idiots.
The Dems have a job to do, not pay attention to blogs and talking cable heads. The only message that was sent was that the Left had overreached, even if that wasn’t really the case.
FUCKING IDIOTS.
Sorry…… Princess Potty Mouth is pissed off as FUCK today.
We will see who comes to the table and what the repubs do now. The ball is in their court.
It will also be interesting to see who from the repug side steps up with comments of their own.
Oops: Mittens and Huntsman. Interesting tease on Twitter from PPP polling:
“This is kind of amazing- Obama has a 66% approval rating with non-Mormons in Utah”
Dear Proud of Obama
I still believe that this is excellent news for John McCain.
Love,
Your most trusted media source, Halperin
hahahhahahhaha! Hoopefruit, you are awesome, say hello to McCain for me.
BRILLIANT!
This is really pathetic…..
THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING SPEAKER:
The Speaker of the House is arguably one of the most powerful offices in the government, at least in theory. It’s supposed to be within Boehner’s power to simply tell his caucus what they have a responsibility to do, and demand their fealty.
But a leader with no followers is, by definition, weak. Boehner may be the Speaker, but as he’s quickly realizing, he’s taking the orders, not giving them.
In the asylum known as the House of Representatives, is there any doubt as to the inmates’ power?
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/the_incredible_shrinking_speak030773.php
Every day I fall more in love with Steve Benen.
I agree tally! Steve Benen for Senate — whatever state he lives in!
Wowwwwww….
but that does not hold well for us…because there has to be compromise in order to move this forward,,,,how do you compromise with a caucas who came into office saying NO COMPROMiSE
The damn fools, I definitely cannot weather another Republican recession.
Did he answer the questions about Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid? You know it was all out there that he was going to cut benefits, I remember the outcry from some of the people when Washington Post broke the story. Oh Obama is turning against the poor and the middle class. He will not be re-elected if he touch Medicare and S.S.
I remember how Ed Schultz went all crazy. But Ed weren’t the only one who bash the President over this. From what I see, is a President who want to solve these problems this country face. He is not concern about the next election, but he is concern about this country. If more politicians were like that the problems this country face would be solve.
so right. PBO more concerned about the state of the country, her people and the economy. He’s always said he would rather be a great one term president than a mediocre two term president. PBO always thinks long and for the greater good. Uneducated scum like Ed and his Parasite Loser buddies can suck it. In regards to the Repugs, I honestly believe that they have nowhere to go but down.
He said point blank, “I’m not going to go into details of our negotiations…” and then made a cute comment to the press dude who asked the question about ‘while he’d like to negotiate with him, he doesn’t know how much weight he carries with the Repub caucus” or something to that effect.
it was wicked smart.
Yes, he told Sam Stein (of HuffnPuff) “I don’t know how much juice you carry within the Repub caucus.”
I have to do yardwork, but I must say…I was glued to the TV…he was absolutely wonderful. He, as always, sounded MORE than reasonable. I do have to say, as he was talking about the debt limit, I wished so badly that he would have explained to the public that this is to PAY FOR THINGS WE ALREADY DO. I don’t remember the idiot (Tapper?) that said that 69% of Americans DON’T want the limit raised, and PBO said that’s because they frame the question wrong! Bingo! Ah… to the yard!
That “idiot” was Chip (on-his-shoulder) Reid.
The President really answer that question about 69 percent of the public is against the debt ceiling being raised. It’s all how you ask a question. If they had explain to these people that you won’t be able to pay S.S. checks, or pay the military men and women, I bet that 69% would come down quick. It’s all how you ask that question.
And those craze butshits who think and believe he can’t speak without a TelePrompTer may i ask you to think again? See you at the debates bastards.
So funny Me4obama! His biggest strength is that underestimate him or down right belittle him. Palin and Bachmann actually think they are on his level.
That’s because they have NOTHING.
NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY N.O.T.H.I.N.G.
You know Me4Obama — I could never understand what the deal was regarding PO’s usage of a teleprompter. Most folks use notes to stay on track. I use my laptop to stay on point when presenting during meetings. . . . so this childish whining about PO using the teleprompter is just silly. Besides, using a teleprompter instead of killing trees is a better use of resources because it supports our environment.
Projection!; i.e. dumb sara, i.e. notes on hand/fingers. These people just love to [project] their fears/inadequacies onto PBO.
Just as we suspected this is not about debt reduction at all, this is about republicans covering the rich folks @zzes,and stifiling the economy and our President.
Take the bandaid off! Eat your peas!
Yes Pa.
I know right? He so eloquently referred to them as spoilt, tantrum throwing CHILDREN.
Soon the teabaggers will be accusing Boehner of having a man-crush on Obama.
hahahahahaha!
President Discusses Status of Debt Reduction Talks
Full video
http://www.cspan.org/Events/President-Discusses-Status-of-Debt-Reduction-Talks/10737422780-2/
Thanks Doris 😉
Here’s a clearer version at msnbc.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/43713816#43713816
😀
Positive WaPo (!) article on PBO’s press conference. Boehner has called a press conf. for 1:30. What a fool.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/obamas-message-on-debt-is-just-right/2011/07/11/gIQAsXl28H_blog.html?wprss=post-partisan
What is boner gonna say? His teabag caucus must have pressured him.
I knew someone from the other side was gonna have to say something. Stay tuned…
That was a good roundup of the conference. I guess some reporters do their job.
That’s a good article, thanks proud. As for Boehner’s press conf. it will just be the usual republican talking points, he has been given his orders by the tea party.
What they are trying to make up for the lie they told about President Obama will cut SS
Now boner is having a press conference that will be getting road block cable coverage!
Yes we know John, raising taxes in the middle of a recession, job killing tax increases blah blah blah!
My question is: will the media ask everyone and there mother about what he should say?
No, no second guessing him, afterall he is WHITE!!!
This was one of the worst press conferences I’ve ever seen. Sketchy in content, evasive, dishonest, in other words, he made himself look silly by coming out right after the President’s detailed and forthright explanations.
He really did. He ended up looking like the weak “leader” he is, who has no control or sway over his caucus. He just repeated dumb repub talking points about how he’s disappointed in the President’s continuous stubborness in putting tax hikes on the table. Well John, unlike you, PBO is no fool and nobodies doormat.
I dream of the day when one of the press peeps will ask any of these idiots, “What color is the sky in your world.?”
Hi All,
Greetings from sunny Trinidad & Tobago.
Excellent press conference. The President surely killed several birds with that one stone. I think the most severe blow though was for the bird he hoped to kill with his love hug for the Speaker. Killing with kindness. However he reminded the Speaker that all was not lost. The Democratic votes were there for the asking.
I will spend the rest of the day in my usual posture – lurking. I am enjoying the conversation.
jacqui
Hiya Soca, glad you were able to sign up, thank you so much!
I see you got the “socasweet” to work! No more “anonymous” for you!!!
Socasweet, I just watched the press conference again and I am marveling at our amazing president. There is no one in politics today that has the brilliance of President Obama. All you have to do is try to imagine any one of the potential GOP candidates dealing with all of the drama that President Obama has been faced with. Can you imagine Mitt Romney answering questions in such detail without notes. Could you imagine Tim Pawlenty educating the public on the role of government in their lives. Could you imagine Michele Bachmann articulating a vision for finally tackling the debt and deficit problem??
President Obama is demonstrating what leadership looks like and what it means to do the hard work of governing . Right now, Speaker Boehner is doing a presser. I have him on mute. He looks like a teeny, tiny little man compared to President Obama. His party has enabled the unhinged Tea Party crowd and now the tail is wagging the dog. It’s a sight to see.
My four favorite men in the White House, President Obama , David Plouffe, Jay Carney, and Reggie Love. Those are my guys. But I think I may have to add Bill Daley. I like his style. He is very good doing interviews. I think he was a great choice for CoS.
Don’t forget Joe Biden. He’s pretty darn good too.
I’m watching the PL posters on TPM lose it. They’re really trying to equivocate what POTUS said about sacrificing our sacred cows with Medicare and Social Security, even though POTUS said he’s not supporting “gutting” Medicare and Social Security. They hear what they want to hear.
The PL on TPM are paid GOP operatives pretending to be unhappy dems. They are earning their keep – the dishonest way – like Murdoch. They will soon meet the same fate. They will begin to unravel shortly, in fact they already are.
They already have. Newsweek not credible, WAShington post fail. daily kos lost all crediable status. I can go on and on and on
TPM has been morphing into a mini-HuffPO for a while. It’s a shame, Josh used to do good work. Now all he cares about is hyperbolic headlines and petty personality driven drama. No substance, no interesting analysis, just clicks. And he’s becoming more successful for it so we can only expect that it will get worse.
I agree. I would go visit him every day and then he went off the deep-end with what he was reporting. It was really sad to see.
Boehner’s conference:
WORST.PRESS.CONFERENCE.EVAH
What a crock. “sorry but I’ve gotta go to the WH.”
Was that all he said?
No, that was the last thing he said when someone asked him a question that he didn’t want to answer.
He said (while seemingly fighting back tears).
1. The president and I do not have personality differences (why is that relevant?)
2. The president and I have policy differences (that much is already understood)
3. The president wants to raise taxes on job creators (not true; the President wants to raise taxes on millionaires and billionares who still do very well in job creation AND personal profits on higher taxes.)
3. The President does not want to address entitlement reforms (again, not true; the President has proposed trimming entitlement programs and cutting wasteful spending – incurring the wrath of his own party).
That is really infuriating. He is essentially stating the opposite of everything that President Obama said at the press conference. What a weasel and a coward. He is not fit to be speaker of the house.
Did anyone expect any different from Boner? It’s the same man who tweeted Obama last week “Where are the jobs,” yet as Speaker, Boner has yet to get his caucus to draft and pass a single piece of legislation addressing jobs.
I thought Jonathan Alter was spot on with this tweet last week………
#Boehner’s flame tweet to #Obama made Speaker look small. First-ever #Twitter forum wasn’t the place for partisan snarkiness.
I mean he is the Speaker of the House. What has HE done for job creation? The executive branch and the legislative branch both have a responsibility to create jobs for the good of the country. This man is a total embarrassment.
He said these things because HE HAS NOTHING TO OFFER. It is the republican way to accuse your political opponent of things using lies as a form of persuasion. Boehner’s behind is in a hole that he can’t get our of without PBO’s help. PBO knows this, so he lets Boehner say whatever he wants to say in pressers. He can take it because he knows and Boehner knows that without PBO there is NO deal. I know Boehner and the republicans have seen the polls showing that if this issue is not resolved, most Americans will blame republicans–not PBO.
What will be interesting is whether the msm will tell us what the Prez actually said or will they just repeat The Weeper’s ridiculous talking points.
Debz now you know that is a silly question. You know the MSM will distort what was said and try to paint Boner in a better light. We can all count on that. The propoganda patterns will continue. Obama/Biden 2012!!
I wondered that too hopefruit, why did Rusty even think it necessary to say: “The president and I do not have personality differences” ????
You know Chips, Boehner is a man of great words: 🙂
“The President and I are the same personality.” Speaker Boner at a press conference related to debt ceiling and deficit reduction, 07/11/11
Sounds like someone who has been up all night with that vodka bottle….
😆 Only in your dreams Rusty, only in your dreams!
I wonder if he really expects the public to believe that BULL? Boner’s personality is nothing like PBO. Boy, I feel so sorry for the state of affairs in the Rethug party. It is absolutley PATHETIC. The majority of their leaders are DELUSIONAL and living in a FANTASY WORLD!! Obama/Biden 2012!!
He meant to say “personal differences”. He has Bush-itis. Because they DO have personality differences – he’s weepy and POTUS is STRONG!
He has spouted these untruths so many times, that I’m surprised he needed a script! He’s vague and twists things and I hate it when he says “the American people…” HE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME!!!!!!
He needed the notes paper because after being up all night with the booze bottle, his brain functioning was probably a wee bit off.
I’m not sure why he needed to do a press conference, we all know the repug talking points by heart. He should just stay in his bottle.
Exceptional President Obama press conference as usual!! too bad PBO leads a nation that elects bombastic fools to the legislative branch and pshas to deal pompus fool who pose as the press corps.
Chipsticks, this is clearly your “fault” that I choose to be vain in my next assessment of the President’s Presser – you started it by using those photos:
okay I will talk for some others of the TOD family when I say “gorgeous hands/fingers Mr President” (not that there is anything wrong with the “total package that is the current US CIC”)
I have to admit I was thinking the same thing. Is there anything about this President that I don’t like? Anything about him that is not sexy? I mean even his hands are gorgeous. And did you see the swagga when he left the press conference? Swooooooon.
Ooooooooooooo weeeeeeeeeee…hahahaha….love those photos myself….
Cold shower Linda, cold shower!!! 😆
Well I’m still anon at work, edp4bho here (will work on this problem), but I just had to say, you took the words out my mouth. I was just marveling at his long slender fingers only seconds before I saw your post here. I am in sync with the universe today 😀 Yes, President Obama looks like he could have been a pianist with those gorgeous digits. Okay, bye for now 😀
OT: I just heard that FLOTUS will be here in California tomorrow for this State’s funeral service for former First Lady Betty Ford.
Yeah she will be. I hope we can get video of the event.
Me too UT.
Yesterday I was wondering if FLOTUS would be attending the funeral service for Mrs. Ford . I guess Laura Bush will be there also.
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS DEFINATELY THE ONLY ADULT IN THE ROOM. THE SOONER AMERCA REALIZES THIS THE BETTER OFF WE WILL ALL BE!!! EXCELLENT PRESSER!!!! 🙂 OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!
Oopsie. Republican Latino group wants Herman Cain to quit the race.
http://coloradoindependent.com/93567/somos-republicans-herman-cain-should-withdraw-from-2012-race
Whoa…. republican latinos are chasing him out of the race? I thought he was the “real black man” that would save the repub party from the brink of destruction. Oh well tough titties.
maybe he was too black. But that’s interesting, minorities undermining minorities. I guess party comes before everything else, not that I blame them, this is the same tool who was saying crap about Muslim people. Toolbag 🙄
Why should Hermain Cain drop out? He has every right to run and voters have every right to choose not to vote for him.
Republican Latino groups said “We call on Herman Cain to drop his candidacy for President,” reads the statement from Somos Republicans in Ankeny, Iowa. “His recent comments and lack of practical solutions to solving illegal immigration show he’s not a serious candidate.”
“Many Hispanics find his recent comments comparing immigrants to ‘invading Huns’ offensive, and also insensitive when thousands of immigrants died crossing the desert. We’re looking for practical and humane solutions, and find Cain’s pandering to xenophobes disgusting.”
Hispanic voters, the group contends, are capable of swinging the 2012 election and “Cain needs to leave the field open to more serious candidates.”
Why does the Republican Latino group consider Cain any less serious a candidate than say. . . Michelle Bachman? Cain’s views on immigration is the same as the remaining candidates except for the moat filled with alligator idea.
With the way Republicans are vilifying immigrants and with what happened in Arizona and other parts of the country, how can ANY minority say with a straight face they are members of the Republican party. Especially given the leaders and they actions today?
My take is the least of the Republican Latino problem is Hermain Cain. It is easy to go after the person they know won’t win the election vs. standing up to the Republican party and the candidates on these same issues and their role in creating this climate of hatred and intolerance.
This is my problem with black, hispanic and gay republicans…..WTF???? That first line about Herman Munster and immigration….really latino repugs, really? The repug party doesn’t give a flying shit about immigration other than to blame everything from the plague to unemployment on them. Why would latinos and blacks and gays vote repug? That is truly dumb. It’s like cutting off your nose to spite your face, WTF?!! A-holes. 🙄
Hi everyone! Just dropping in to ask the TOD family to send out prayers and positive wishes to our friend from Moneygall, Rev. Canon Stephen Neill – his son is undergoing brain surgery today:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/moneygall-canons-son-14-undergoes-brain-op-2818013.html
I saw the updates on Twitter. He’s the person who unearthed the documents showing that Falmouth Kearney was from Moneygall and was indeed President Obama’s ancestor. I’ll be praying and sending good wishes his way.
From what I saw most recently on twitter, he was just moved to a regular 2-bedded room in children’s ward, and they will have the MRI results tomorrow.
May God guide the surgeon’s hands and smile benevolence upon the family.
May God heal this young man…
I will repeat this until it goes viral:
Any members of the US Government who sign a pledge of loyalty to a non-elected individual (Grover Norquist) and his dogma over their pledge to the US Constitution, should be removed from office immediately, and tried for treason.
#GOPFAIL #MEDIAFAIL
Tally….great point. That was exactly my 1st tweet….during Weinergate. Why is the media and also Dems not voicing their outrage on this nonesense!
Hi Ladyhawke,
Good analysis. I am wondering though, if the 2012 GOP candidates will heed his warning about the difference between winning elections and governing. They are doing all kinds of gymnastics to earn the Tea Party votes. I am sure the Speaker thought that he would be able to control them after the elections and look at the bind that he is in now.
Of course, I did not leave my lurking on this site to listen to the Speaker so I do not know what he said but I can guess. The president is trying to goad him into shaking off the shackles of the lunatics and stand with a real leader but you know you can take a mule to the water but you cannot make him drink. It is his choice. Poor man.
The President had advice for many people. Hopefully, those who have ears will not just hear but listen.
jacqui
New poll out today showing Bachman leading in Iowa. Lol! Lmao!
Seriously deranged. Trying to sound smart, I heard she said “I’ve worked in serious scholarship.” What intelligent person talks like that? I can’t believe anyone would for her crazy nonsense.
Because the GOP is a cult full of crazy.
Wow! I guess Mittens doesn’t have enought tea party cred.
Boehner’s response to PO’s presser. Link includes video
Boehner says Dems not willing to make debt deal
President Obama said today that he’s willing to “to tackle our debt and deficits in a serious way,” but House Speaker John Boehner says that isn’t true.
“This boils down to two things,” Boehner told reporters
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20078484-503544.html
This is a reply to that article you linked – I wish I had wrote it:
“by hermest177 July 11, 2011 3:57 PM EDT
The ongoing assault on U.S. jobs and American labor & wage standards via the continual acts and sponsorship of outsourcing, off shoring and insourcing, perpetrated by the criminal executive class of a fascist, corporate police state and their complicit, bought-off policy-makers is fastly becoming a very real and profound threat to the national security of the United States of America.
A combination of a multi-decade campaign for absolute maximization of corporate profits under the guise of “responsibility to share holders,” though more accurately characterized by the mega-million-dollar executive bonuses and corporate cash hoarding we’ve witnessed, aided by an unconstrained corporate welfare environment bestowed upon the nation by the corporate-puppet-legislative and executive bodies has profoundly devastated and undermined the economic stability of the United States as well as her citizenry thereby compromising, perhaps obliterating the financial well-being and very futures of the families and children of all common Americans in a way that no war or other event throughout history has. If this is not a wholly-precise definition of a national security threat, then one is supremely challenged in defining what exactly would be.
Due to the long term, multi-generational impact that this national security threat has had and will continue to have on the lives of every American and their families over the coming decades, these un-American and subversive activities should be clearly identified and characterized as treasonous and the corporate culprits and policy makers punished accordingly. These “people” whom Americans have entrusted with absolute power over the national economic and legislative processes have failed outright. They have intentionally destroyed the lives and futures of millions of Americans and they’ve done so with utter arrogance and disregard. They are completely and morally corrupt. Without allegiance to country or countrymen. They are the diametric opposites of what our corporate and government leaders are intended to represent. They have sold America and her citizenry out to the degree that the country is now just a shell of it’s former greatness.
Immediate accountability is of the utmost importance. These corporate executives, interlocking directorates and their collaborating factions of policy-makers and subversive-secret-society associates (Bilderberg Group, CFR, etc) should be identified, publicly ostracized, pursued by the U.S. military and executive branches, criminaly charged with treason against country and costitution and prosecuted to the highest degree under law.
In a sane world, this is exactly what would be unfolding… however, in our twisted society, completey bought and sold by elitist international bankers and corporate masters, we as a society are doing the polar opposite of what is right and just. Allowing these scum of the earth to go on raping and pillaging America and her families!
However, one must ask, will they themselves or their legacy ever pay for the economic terror they’ve waged against Americans? Will they ever be reduced to subsisting in the third-world environment that they are condemning common American families to while in pursuit of their fascist agenda of global economic conquest and democratization on the backs of U.S. tax payers and the blood of American service-men & women?
I believe this is the foremost question on the minds of all conscientious and patriotic Americans.”
My goodness! Whoever Hermest177 is; he/she is a gifted rhetorician. Wow. Hopefully he/she is a democrat because I can’t imagine this brilliance flowing from the mind of today’s republican. Thanks for pasting it here, Tally. I mean….just….wow.
I don’t post often, but I must tell you that my President is an amazing being. I think he did a fabulous job when he replied to that fool, “jackass Tapper.”
Did you see where Michele Bachmann tried to back out of signing that paper where it says that a black child born into slavery had a better life than one born under the first black President. She didn’t know what she was signing. Yes she did, she knew exactly what she was signing.