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President Barack Obama, followed by Press Secretary Jay Carney, arrives to talk about the ongoing budget negotiations in the briefing room at the White House


90 Responses to “update”


  1. 1 theo67
    July 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Just seeing his calm and optimism inspires calm and optimism.

    • July 7, 2011 at 2:06 pm

      my thoughts exactly theo. If POTUS is saying he felt good about today’s meeting, then indeed it must have been an ‘adult’ show up today.

  2. July 7, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    When did Ed Schultz become a democrat again? Wasn’t he a republican most of his life and now he has religion and cares so much for the middle class. He’s the most democratic of the democrats. He and his friend the weasel Adam Green.

    • 4 theo67
      July 7, 2011 at 1:35 pm

      Now he has a big paycheck.

    • July 7, 2011 at 1:36 pm

      Keeping in mind that this is the same man who implored voters to stay home to teach this president a lesson. And Wisconsin started going to hell in a hen basket, he had the nerve to demand the president go down to Wisconsin.

      Nevermind the president told the voters not to give the keys back to Republicans.

      Go figure.

      • 6 Fred
        July 7, 2011 at 2:09 pm

        of course he’d demand the President go to Wisconsin.You know the President is a boy who should be ordered to do thing

        • 7 COS
          July 7, 2011 at 3:23 pm

          I was listening to Hal Sparks this morning sitting in for Stephainie Miller, (huge Obama supporters) and he mentioned what Ed did before the 2010 elections advising people to stay at home, and how PBO visited WI 6 times before the election but they chose not to isten to him. In essence he was imploring people to wake up and stop doing the Republicans work by calling this president weak and spineless. PBO has his way of doing things and getting results.

          • 8 Eleroy
            July 8, 2011 at 2:15 am

            I like Hal Sparks and have been listening to him this week as he subs for Stephanie!!!

      • 9 majii
        July 7, 2011 at 5:55 pm

        IMO, PBO did the right thing in choosing not to go to WI. He had told the voters to not let the republicans back into power as you point out, africa, but they didn’t listen. Sometimes the best and most enduring lesson a person can learn is from having to deal with a problem he/she created by him/herself. Walker woke a sleeping giant in WI. Had PBO gone to WI, the focus would have been on him, and it would have provided fuel to the rw to attack him with resources provided by the Koch Bros and their allies. My parents used to say that the school of hard knocks is a helluva an education, and I think the people in WI have learned this by now–they’re motivated, mobilized, and their efforts are bearing fruit as can be seen in their efforts to recall those rw legislators who voted for Walker’s union busting bill. Also, their efforts put Prosser firmly on the radar of millions of Wisconsinites, and he has not disappointed.

        • July 10, 2011 at 11:05 am

          ditto your remarks, majii. The upcoming recall elections are coming up shortly. Lots of money being raised by the democratic party and a better informed and attention-paying electorate. I have high hopes that my home state will toss out the republicans no matter what shenanigans they try to throw their way, i.e., fake democratic candidates. There has been a full blown ground swell here.

    • July 7, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      The only democrat on msnbc is tweedy! And he is up and down, bc he took so much heat from his cohorts- when he said, he has a tingle going up his leg!
      These pl folks are not democrats, got it?

    • 12 tally
      July 7, 2011 at 2:08 pm

      Ed went apoplectic yesterday regarding the Washington Post article http://t.co/17m5Z9x, and had to be talked back from the edge of the cliff by whomever he had on (don’t remember, sorry, was also cooking at the time – while screaming at him as well from my kitchen.) The (other) guy even said, “Hang on, we don’t know WHAT that means, and no one said, “cuts.”

      I have a few thoughts on this:

      1. The Washington Post has unfortunately become the FauxNews™ of print media.

      2. If this was “floated” by anyone at the WH – it was as bait for the GOP – to see if there is ANYTHING that would get them to agree to getting rid of the Bush Tax cuts – which MUST HAPPEN. Think about this – two things that an overwhelming majority of Americans want: Keep SS/Medicare & tax the rich/end corporate welfare – and neither will the GOP even negotiate over. To me, that says it all about their insanity, and this will be the death of the party.

      3. SS/Medicare MUST be on the table to END the contribution cap so EVERYONE pays the same % of earnings, and those who make $106k annually will stop being carried by those who make less. That in and of itself is one of the most inequitable things EVER.

      I am tweeting the following: ” 86 the contribution cap for SS/Medicare so everyone pays the same % of earnings even the rich. #86SSMEDcontributioncap @whitehouse #AskObama ” Maybe we can start a trend for 86SSMEDcontributioncap – that might force the Media & the Dems to talk about it.

      4. The Dems need to do this without the GOP if they have to, since the GOP have proven it’s “My way or the highway.” FUCK THEM. They’re nothing more than bullies and thugs who are blinded by greed and power. I’m sick of them holding the entire global economy hostage to their insane whims.

      I’ll repeat this until my fingers bleed: If tax cuts for the rich and corporate loopholes & subsidies created jobs, we’d have the most vibrant economy on the planet, and zero unemployment by now because these policies have been in place for over a decade. But anyone with a functioning brain stem can see that is not the case. But Republicans have made denial into an art form, and want to double down on their massive fail, all because of their blinding hatred of one man.

      • 13 desertflower
        July 7, 2011 at 2:16 pm

        Thank you,Tally:) I also wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed your piece from yesterday.You have a gift, and I bet your family is proud of YOU! Beautiful writing. Just had to tell you. I missed commenting yesterday.

      • 16 meta
        July 7, 2011 at 5:37 pm

        Yeah, neocon Fred Hiatt is the editor of WaPo. Never met a disgusting right-wing policy he didn’t love. UGH.

  3. 17 CTGirl
    July 7, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    John Cole summed this up very well…
    http://www.balloon-juice.com/

    • 18 majii
      July 7, 2011 at 6:05 pm

      EACTLY, CTGirl. Cole has a point. When one divorces his/her spouse, one has already broken the most important vow in the marriage. A thrice married person is the LAST one who should be pushing others to sign a pledge about marriage. Gingrich was a blowhard when he was in the state legislature here in GA, when he was Speaker, and he’s still a blowhard.

  4. July 7, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    The debt is going to be raised.

  5. July 7, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    I mean debt ceiling. The specifics are yet to be worked out but the major point is he got them to say yes. The President is playing this beautifully.

  6. 22 GGail
    July 7, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Reporters can holler out some of the DUMBEST premature questions. Must be a reflection of their body functions??? LOL!

    • 23 utaustinliberal
      July 7, 2011 at 5:18 pm

      Exactly!. He comes out and tells them he is only going to make a brief statement. If he was going to take questions, he would have said so. Yet as he walks out the room they keep yelling dumbass questions.

      I have no clue how Jay Carney keeps his patience with what passes for White House “journalists.” Especially Chuck Todd and Jake Tapper. Two of the biggest idiotic reporters to ever cover the White House.

      • 24 majii
        July 7, 2011 at 6:13 pm

        I think Jay keeps how dumb their questions are in the back of his mind as he responds to their queries. I’d like to be a fly on the wall in the room where PBO, his staff, and Jay debrief after these press conferences! I’m sure I’d get quite a few laughs from the things they say about these self serving tools.

  7. July 7, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Wouldn’t it be great if there was a twitter scroll playing in the room during these press conferences? It would be great for the press to see in real time what we think of their questions and comments! Unbelievable!

  8. 26 lmrj
    July 7, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    I really can’t stand to look at the White House press corps grilling Jay Carney. Had to turn it off. He’s a WONDERFUL spokesman for POTUS, but they are RIDICULOUS in the way they try to bend POTUS'(and Jay’s) comments to suit their “narrative”. Don’t see how he can stomach them.

  9. 29 collegekay
    July 7, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    LOL @ how they try to yell their questions and PBO ignores them.

  10. July 7, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    According to the media, maybe Casey Anthony, when she gets out next week, will be able to solve all of our problems.
    At least, putting her on after they talk about the debt limit, kind of makes you wonder if she is involved with the debt ceiling vote? Lol!

  11. July 7, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    Jay Carney is very good at what he does. He has to school those stupid reporters over and over. I don’t know how he keeps his patience.
    He has a fantastic memory as he will remind them that he answered a question last week. I just want to yell at the silly questions. Haven’t they learned that he is not going to answer what the President said in private meetings, what the President is thinking or why doesn’t he go to the Hill rather than have them come to the WH. You are right Imrj. They are trying to twist him to answer their preconcieved notions of what they are planning to write. They are an embarrassment. Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow are plugging their ears in their graves.

    • 32 lmrj
      July 7, 2011 at 2:41 pm

      They’re such idots, someone would probably have to tell them who Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow are.

    • 34 majii
      July 7, 2011 at 6:20 pm

      The members of Congress SHOULD have to come to PBO if they want his help. According to the Constitution, it is their job to settle the issues of the budget and raising the debt limit. PBO told them this in so many words in his presser last week when he told them to do their jobs. They keep forgetting that he was a Constitutional law professor, and that he understand the Constitution better than all of them combined, and this includes the constitutionally ignorant WH Press Corps.

  12. July 7, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Somehow, we gotta get jay carney on tv, he is great!

  13. 36 Mary
    July 7, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Thanks Tally, may I use your tweet?

  14. 38 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    July 7, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Why are we talking about Ed Shulz? We need to be commenting on the presidents words. *uck Ed, Rachel, Keith, and Bill. They are not Progressives. Teapublican shrills and puppets in sheeps clothing. NUFF SAID!! Obama/Biden 2012!!

    • 39 lmrj
      July 7, 2011 at 2:36 pm

      ABSOLUTELY!!!

    • July 7, 2011 at 2:40 pm

      I agree totally, Keith.

      • July 7, 2011 at 2:43 pm

        You know, I agree too and I brought him up. His name will not come from my fingers again. Only spreading the good news about PBO.

        • 42 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          July 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm

          Thanks everyone for your reply. I know its good to recognize and know what our adversaries are doing, but we need to be spreading the good news of the hard working intelligence of the man called Barack Hessein Obama. We won’t see another President like him in the Whitehouse in our life time folks. The Eds of the world are out for ratings, fattening their pockets, and pleasing their masters. They aren’t really concerned with the welfare of the average everyday American, otherwise they wouldn’t have promoted that campaign last fall to keep Dems at home and not vote. Look at the results……a TeaParty controlled House and Governors across the land attacking the heart of the middle and working classes. That my friends is highly counter productive and I won’t give my time, attention, or passion to pundits of their ilk who are only self destructive to our cause. Obama/Biden 2012!!

  15. July 7, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    I did not vote for this man just because he is black, or that he has a nice smile, or that he is a handsome man, or that he has a lovely family. But I voted for him because I believe he will do the right thing for this country and it’s people.

    • July 7, 2011 at 2:50 pm

      I did too, anniebella. I voted for him because of who he is. He has said all along, even before he was elected that he enjoys the challenge and wants to make a difference for this country. Wants to make it better. He’s sure done that. He’s the perfect person for this time. I appreciate him so much.

    • 46 a night owl
      July 7, 2011 at 4:12 pm

      People who brag about how they care more about “policy” than “personality” really don’t understand how our representative democracy works. What they denigrate as “personality,” I call “character,” or “integrity.” Yes, it’s important that the person I vote for espouse my policy positions. But because I don’t get to vote directly on legislation, and I can’t be in the room negotiating on my own behalf, and I am not privy to the best (possibly classified) information available, I have to trust that the person I elected to represent me will do the right thing (which, by the way, is not necessarily the thing that benefits me personally the most). Trust is not foolish; it is essential in a representative democracy. I don’t trust lightly. I’ve followed Barack Obama since 2004 and read all his books; as much as I could, I watched his speeches, listened to his interviews, and read the articles written about him. I know exactly who I voted for, and nothing he has done has surprised me.

      • July 7, 2011 at 4:54 pm

        Now ain’t that the truth. So did I, I did a little research, got to know a little about him,. I liked what I read, I liked what I saw, , and I liked what I heard, I said to myself, this Is the Man. I went out and volunteered on his Campaign. Let me say, I never volunteered on a Campaign before, In all the many decades of my voting. We can’t ONLY look at color when we vote, we must vote for who WE think will LEAD our Country

      • 48 Eleroy
        July 8, 2011 at 1:03 am

        They will denigrate “personality” when it suits THEIR purposes, but will die searching for it to represent THEIR side of the aisle!!!

        Notice how all the wonderful traits that have people gravitating towards President Obama are deemed “bad” but the slightest instance of any such trait in any of the President’s opponents are trumpeted, exaggerated and celebrated!!!

  16. July 7, 2011 at 2:48 pm

    Another Wow for me about POTUS’ remarks. It’s so clear that he’s in charge of himself and the job. I trust him like no one else I have ever known. It’s not a matter of whether he does something I approve of or not, I just trust him and I know he has good reasons to do what he is doing. He has taken charge of this whole thing, upped the ante to make it an an even bigger deal than it was before and challenged the Republicans to fish or cut bait.

    And in the meantime, there are so many positive economic signs. Chipsticks has posted some and BWD at The only adult in the room. I’ve been seeing them all over the Internet the last couple of days. All that tireless work the President and his administration has been doing is paying off.

    Smartypants had a good analysis of her take on the negotiations

    http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2011/07/my-take-on-grand-bargain.html

    The President is indeed taking care of this.

    • 50 lmrj
      July 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm

      Love POTUS’ takeaway at the end of Smartypants’ article:
      1] We must maintain our own balance while taking theirs.
      2] We must react fearlessly.
      3] We must enter into the very center of the conflict.
      4] We must understand our opponent’s intentions in order to achieve resolution.
      CHECKMATE!!!

  17. 52 DTTM
    July 7, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    White House spokesman Jay Carney commented on the reports concerning Social Security cuts Thursday morning.

    “There is no news here,” Carney said. “The President has always said that while social security is not a major driver of the deficit, we do need to strengthen the program and the President said in the State of the Union Address that he wanted to work with both parties to do so in a balanced way that preserves the promise of the program and doesn’t slash benefits.”

  18. July 7, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    I guess the house republicans are mad at the energy efficient light bulbs, bc they just voted to end that program!

    Puzzling!

    • 54 majii
      July 7, 2011 at 6:30 pm

      This was all a BS campaign started by Michele Bachmann to rile up the low information voters who don’t know that Bachmann voted for the bill that gradually phases in the energy efficient bulbs, and that GWB signed the bill creating the law. Her whole “PBO and the dems are telling us what light bulbs to use just illustrates her shallowness and vindictiveness to the saner members of this society. Media Matters had a series of posts on this issue. This is much ado about NOTHING. I wish I could make $174,000/yr pushing this type of mess. I taught 33 years and never made half this amount in GA! This just shows what Americans value. There are millions who would give Bachmann and the do nothing republicans more money in a heartbeat, deny a living wage to teachers and other public servants, and would snatch the bottle from a babe’s mouth by cutting the WIC program.

  19. 55 Mary
    July 7, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    I just saw a headline saying Boehner/Cantor say 50-50 chance on debt ceiling. Big of them, I’m sure. But still good news.

    • 56 lmrj
      July 7, 2011 at 3:53 pm

      … and what else are they going to say while they CAVE?!!!

      • 57 tally
        July 7, 2011 at 3:55 pm

        The sad truth is they ALL KNOW they have to raise it. Anyone with any knowledge of global economics knows it. Unfortunately, our schools have been underfunded for decades so a great portion of our country has no clue.

        • July 7, 2011 at 5:00 pm

          So why do they act like they are not gonna raise It????? Are they playing games, walking out on meetings and stuff??? Do they like to waste time?????

          • 59 tally
            July 7, 2011 at 5:05 pm

            Because they CAN, and economics are far too complicated for their base to understand.

          • 60 meta
            July 7, 2011 at 5:41 pm

            They are going for a talking point for 2012. They want to scare everybody into default syndrome so they can say they are taking the high road. They’ve twisted the whole thing so dramatically but I don’t think there are many who are falling for their snake oil. They figure if we do default, everyone will blame PBO for a second recession. Really really despicable.

      • 61 majii
        July 7, 2011 at 6:40 pm

        I think that’s why they wanted to get PBO involved in the negotiations. Steve Benen at the Washington Monthly addressed this issue a couple weeks ago. He said that the republicans are seeking cover for when they agree to raise the debt ceiling, and they want PBO to give it to them. I find it very ironic that they have had to go crawling back to the same individual they have repeatedly vilified to help them out of the jam they created for themselves. I think this gives the president a certain amount of leverage to use in the negotiations. The republicans need PBO and they need dem votes in the House.

        PBO =1

        Republicans = 0

    • 62 majii
      July 7, 2011 at 6:35 pm

      Boehner knows he needs dem votes in the House to pass anything. The teapublicans don’t care if they bring the nation and the world to their knees, but Boehner has to think differently. The republicans wanted to win so badly in the midterms that they never gave a second thought to the idea that those whom they helped to elect would be so radical that even they couldn’t negotiate with them. Serves them right. I’ve been asking God to let no evil prevail against PBO and asking Him to handle the republicans because they’re not listening to us.

  20. 63 tally
    July 7, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    The “MEDIA” is universally enraged because POTUS went around them yesterday with his Twitter Townhall. That was an HISTORICAL OCCURRENCE, and shot across their bow, showing them he doesn’t really NEED them like they thought he did, and they’ve lost their collective minds over it.

    I see it as a setup. The GOP will (predictably) run with this at their peril. However, they’re not going to know what hit them – as long as the Dems have a fucking spine, and are in on it (the ones who aren’t bought off, paid for whores.)

    Our main problem is the lazy, hysterical, easily panicked Left who jump at any chance to hate on Obama instead of using their brains, or READING the FACTS, and not running with hearsay.

    He’s STILL the smartest guy in the room, nothing has changed that. I have no doubt in my mind that he is totally playing this with some ginormous BOOM (a “Here’s my Birth Certificate, and oh, by the way, I got Bin Laden” – so STFU) thing, that will make them look even more foolish and thug-esque at the end of the day.

    Think about it. He got HCR done. It wasn’t perfect, but in the long run, it WILL lead to single payer, and drive the for-profits out of business. It won’t happen over night, but there’s no way to repeal it unless they get him out of office. That was a long-range plan to get it done.

    He buried Trump, and permanently shut him the fuck up in one of the most epic comedy moments of all time.

    I have no doubt that Obama has a plan to make SS & Medicare MORE secure AND equitable for EVERYONE. So to say it’s off the table is foolish. The second HE says get rid of the cap – the GOP will scream it’s a tax hike for the rich (and their MediaMachine™ will run with it 24/7 like the Anthony trial), instead of asking them to pay the SAME percentage. So that has to come from US – WE MUST DEMAND IT.

    But he IS saying, “Here – we have THIS. You still have NOTHING.” And that makes them look like the spoiled, petulant silver-spoon babies they are and protect.

    Anyone who thinks Obama is weak & stupid is simply an idiot who lives in their own Fantasyland. Unfortunately, that’s a large number of people, but Obama is well aware of that.

    • July 7, 2011 at 4:07 pm

      “He buried Trump, and permanently shut him the fuck up in one of the most epic comedy moments of all time.” 🙂 🙂 🙂

      Loved what you said about Trump, Tally, And what’s more, you’ve hit the nail on the head with all of your other points, too. We’ve got to stop doubting President Obama, and we must more forcefully show our support for him. We can’t keep allowing ourselves to be manipulated by the MSM, pundits, PL etc. Let’s re-focus our attention on getting this man re-elected President!

    • July 7, 2011 at 6:19 pm

      Okay, Tally, it’s time you had your own blog or became a contributor to another blog. Your work is priceless…best sarcasm ever and your analysis rocks.

    • 67 majii
      July 7, 2011 at 6:51 pm

      Great points, tally, and oh, so true. When I logged onto MSN this afternoon the first thing I saw was the headline: “Opinion: Obama’s twitter effort yesterday a big fail,” or something to this effect. The MSM has an over inflated sense of its importance and feels that it should be the only source for news open to the American people. When I read the headline, I got the sense that the MSM was pizzzed because PBO had the nerve to use Twitter to interact directly with the people. The MSM needs to understand that it has lost its usefulness mainly due to its failure to provide accurate information on anything. I know the owners of the MSM outlets have seen the polls that show fewer people watch traditional news programs for information. I haven’t watched TV news programming going on two years now because of its focus on ratings, sensationalism, and profits over information. I don’t need to receive my information about government policy through the filter of the MSM when I can look things up on the internet. I have also thought that this is why many of the large media outlets oppose net neutrality–they want to control access to information, and content, on air and on the internet.

  21. 68 lmrj
    July 7, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    The strength is in knowing your adversaries. He does. They don’t… and as soon as they THINK they do, he’s changed course. They’re also too lazy to keep up with our POTUS who seems to work for us 24/7.

  22. 69 Me4obama
    July 7, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Sunday? Mr. President, how about your family time and R&R?

    OT: is anyone here so tired of the non stop coverage of the “Royal Couple” aka William and Kate coming to America Tomorrow? Tired of it, sorry if We have some royal funs here. Looking forward to seeing My president on Sunday.

    • 70 Fred
      July 7, 2011 at 4:18 pm

      here here! but imho it is better to hear from them than to hear from Casey Anthony.Again just my humble respectful opinion

    • July 7, 2011 at 7:02 pm

      I know! I’ve been sick of them since they announced their engagement. My question is: what do they do? Seriously, what do they do that warrants so much attention? I don’t get it. Especially here in America. I thought we wanted a democracy, not a monarchy, so why are people wetting their pants to see and hear about these two? The only royal I ever loved or appreciated was Diana because she was real and she didn’t care that she was supposedly royal. She got down and danced and laughed and worked with and worked for the “common” folks and the poor and the hungry. She was the best thing the aristocracy ever created. I just don’t get “Wills and Kate” 🙄 🙄

      • 73 Eleroy
        July 8, 2011 at 2:05 am

        You and me both Lisa!!!

        I am even madder now hearing that Jerry Brown and his wife who have been awol from every official visit to California by President Obama and Michelle Obama, will be meeting with Kate and Wills!!!

        This is SICK!!!

    • 74 Eleroy
      July 8, 2011 at 2:09 am

      My friend says it’s because the predominantly white media have been desperate for a white couple to knock the Obamas off the front pages and I think she may be spot on!!!

      Doesn’t matter that William and Kate have nothing to show for being important or relevant!!!

      American audience validation might spur and strengthen support for the monarchy back home – afterall Americans are “cool” and if they embrace you, you must be ok!!!

  23. 75 Ladyhawke
    July 7, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    Apparently, some Republicans in the House and the Senate are starting to freak out about the prospects of President Obama making use of the 14th Amendment. This is hilarious. The only reason the 14th Amendment is even being considered if because they decided to hold the country hostage to get their way. In previous administration, the party in power just made sure it got done. The GOP raised the debt limit five times during the Bush administration.

    GOP FREAK-OUT OVER THE ’14TH AMENDMENT OPTION’ BEGINS:

    Now, of course, Republicans want to rewrite the rules and not pay our bills. There’s a credible debate underway as to whether the GOP even has a choice in the matter.

    The 14th Amendment to the Constitution seems to prevent the United States from refusing to pay its bills. The language reads, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law … shall not be questioned.” This constitutional provision, according to some legal scholars, offers President Obama a way out if congressional Republican decide they’d rather shoot the hostage: he can pursue the “14th Amendment Option” and simply pay our obligations anyway, debt ceiling be damned.
    .
    .
    In case this isn’t already obvious, it’s worth acknowledging why the GOP is panicking, and it has nothing to do with constitutional principles or separation of powers. The issue is one of leverage — if the “14th Amendment Option” (or, “Constitutional Option”) is legitimate, the Republican hostage strategy starts to crumble. There would be a built-in safety valve in the event talks collapse and the GOP decides to go through with the party’s threats.

    In other words, right now, Republican leaders are saying, “Meet our demands or we’ll shoot the hostage.” If this constitutional work-around is a viable alternative, the president can say, “Never mind, I’ve found a way to save the hostage without you.”

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/gop_freakout_over_14th_amendme030719.php

    • 76 Fred
      July 7, 2011 at 4:16 pm

      I am hoping he sticks it to them and wins the war for the American people and the Democratic Party 😀

      I hope he drives them batshit crazy 🙂

    • 78 majii
      July 7, 2011 at 6:55 pm

      Hee, hee. Bruce Bartlett, a former economic adviser to President Reagan, has stated that PBO would be within his powers under the Constitution to use the 14th Amendment to settle the debt limit issue. Leader Pelosi has also invited Bartlett to speak about the debt limit to the dems in Congress. According to her web site, I think he was coming today. Hee, hee, hee!

  24. 81 PoliticalJunkessa
    July 7, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    The debt ceiling will be raised. All else is noise and hysteria.

    • 82 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      July 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      Exactly Junkessa. Why have folks not grasped that yet? The Rethugs are in the hip pocket of Wall St. and the Chamber of Commerce. Not only that world markets are depending on this decision. I doubt the Rethugs really want to be responsible for a world recession or depression. That would not be good for their legacy. Besides payment would stop from their masters and re-election for most would be in the gutter. They know where their bread is buttered. As you have proclaimed the debt ceiling will be raised. The theatrics are about to come to a conclusion. 🙂

  25. 84 ML
    July 7, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    I think this is a great article on DalyKos (not thing I would usually say) analyzing what appears to be on the table as far as SS is concerned.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/07/992060/-A-Non-Hysterical-Progressive-Analysis-of-so-called-Social-Security-Cuts-on-the-Table?via=siderec

  26. 85 Fred
    July 7, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    look at crazy racist Glen Greenwald’s tweeter page 🙄

    http://twitter.com/#!/ggreenwald

  27. 90 MoObama
    July 8, 2011 at 9:39 am

    I was so ticked off last night I couldn’t watch MSNBC. These PL blabber heads kept pushing the lie that the president was going to cut Medicare/Social Security. And what made it worst was the progressive caucus spouting how they’re going to fight the president because, “We’re not going to pay the countries debt on the backs of the middle class and poor”. Didn’t they hear the president drop kick Ryan on the virtues of Medicare? They know full well the president isn’t going to weaken or rid America of Medicare/ Social Security! Can’t they support the president on any issue? These jackasses are using the president to stroke the crazies back home for reelection. Rachael, Ed and Chris Hayes were full of crap last night!


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