There’s so much more, but just a line or two on the Professional Left’s heroes:

Glenn Greenwald (founding member of the ‘OMG! Obama is a Torturer!’ fan club): A Libertarian, a supporter of GOP/Libertarian 2012 candidate Gary Johnson (who wants to end child labor laws and reckons President Obama’s election signaled the end of racism in America), also a paid Cato Institute contributor, his checks quite possibly signed by Cato’s co-founder Charles Koch.

Jane Hamsher (Queen of the Firebaggers): Her CommonSense Media company works with Republicans in their efforts to defeat Democrats, and did online advertising for BP in the aftermath the Gulf oil disaster.

Arianna Huffington (Tiresome twat): Where do you start? A hardcore supporter of conservative causes such as Newt Gingrich’s ‘Republican Revolution’ and Bob Dole’s 1996 candidacy for president.

Ed Shultz (Good grief): A former Republican, he admitted to being “far right” until the late 1990s, the ‘homeless’ often the target of his right-wing rage.

John Aravosis (King of Hysteria): A leading gay rights campaigner and scathing critic of President Obama’s record on gay rights, Aravosis worked as a foreign policy adviser for corrupt Alaskan Republican senator Ted Stevens (who voted for a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage and against a bill adding sexual orientation to the definition of hate crimes).

Cenk Uygur (Yawn): A former Republican, and self-confessed Reagan fan, he admitted to voting for the first George Bush and …. Bob Dole. “I was so conservative judicially I went to Federalist Society meetings.” He dismissed President Obama’s Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which guaranteed equal pay for women, as “a minor bill”.

Markos Moulitsas (DK mogul!): A former member of the Republican Party. During the 1988 presidential election, he served as a Republican precinct captain and assisted with the re-election campaign of Illinois Congressman Henry Hyde – the same Henry Hyde who, as a member of the congressional panel investigating the Iran-Contra affair, vigorously defended the Reagan administration, and a number of the participants who had been accused of various crimes, particularly Oliver North.


Hmm….. lots of people start out in life with right wing views and have the good sense to become liberals. It’s just curious how many of the professional left’s Gods have similar political backgrounds.

113 Responses to “curious….”

  1. 1 bonkers
    July 7, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Chipsticks – for the win!

  2. 2 ChristiMtl
    July 7, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Isn’t it amazing though that they are ”heroes” to the left and represent them? There’s one thing I can give them is that they mastered the art of manipulation and deception to perfection. Big bucks.

    They are hypocritical buffoons…all of them.

    And don’t forget left winger Rachel Maddow who has a personal vendetta against the President and Socialist O’Donnell.

  3. 3 Obamaperson
    July 7, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Years ago, in 2008, I used to follow DKos. I commented as I do here. Then I realized that the positions seemed too extreme for me, that I liked the candidate Obama and what he was saying, and the president as he became, but those on the site–the principal ones–pushed so far left that I could no longer feel anything for them. I skim the blog, but disappear. There is something good and something unhealthy there. I needed to be gone as someone who jumped onto and replied to most-recommended diarists. They are some place I don’t want to be, and yet I think they are better than Orin Hatch type Republicans. So I still read the blog.

  4. 4 theo67
    July 7, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    This list is spot on! (You forgot Ed Schultz- king of the screamers, promoter of not voting)

  5. 5 Asher in Boston
    July 7, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    What a bunch of idiots. Ed is there tonite spewing nonsense of how PBO is going to be a one termer because he alledgedly has put SS and medicare on the table. These fools/ whinners are really wearing me up with their lies and its really irritating and boring. To all the above sour grapers above, glen, ariana, markos, cenk, aravosis, hamsher, maddow and ed shultz, F U.

    • 6 theo67
      July 7, 2011 at 11:07 pm

      Maybe they actually want a Republican president so they can whine incessantly about the havoc that will ensue.

      • July 7, 2011 at 11:46 pm

        By George, I think you’ve got it. Paychecks will keep a’coming.

      • 9 StR
        July 8, 2011 at 12:08 am

        A Republican President would be great for their bottom line as they could then appeal to more mainstream Dems by attacking the Republican President than having a small niche audience in the fringe left attacking a Dem President.

        I wonder what their business model is once President Obama is elected though – They can’t threaten to not vote for him anymore and that seems to be the only tactic they have. And the Dem Primary for 2016 won’t start to become interesting until after 2014 mid-terms, so they’ll have a couple lean years in there.

        • 10 Eleroy
          July 8, 2011 at 12:18 am

          Most “mainstream Dems” are on to their tricks and most no longer trust this bunch and will NOT be listening to them if heaven forbid, a republican slips in!!!

          Haven’t you noticed, ratings for all these networks have dipped considerably!!! People aren’t stupid!!!

          Most people now realize that this is only a game and a money maker for the media who are gambling away our democracy and destrying this country out of greed and the need to be in control!!!

        • 11 theo67
          July 8, 2011 at 1:45 am

          They’ll probably attack whomever the President chooses to endorse, because he/she won’t be FDR-enough.

          • 12 conlakappa
            July 8, 2011 at 9:28 am

            Love it! I now have in my head “my was he FDR” but pronounced the way Hepburn said “yar” in The Philadelphia Story!

      • 13 Dorothy Rissman
        July 9, 2011 at 6:58 pm

        I am not sure they would complain as loudly and aggressively if they had a repug president. They have got a big hate on PBO.
        Haven’t you heard, PBO is a repugliscum. These people are sick and sickening.

  6. 14 theo67
    July 7, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Stephanie Miller has found her backbone against the whining from her two sidekicks (one of whom seems to have worked for every Republican talking head), but she was a Republican, too. She’s been very strong in supporting President Obama over the last several months, however, her defense of Ed Schultz’s douchebaggery makes me think she could be swayed back at some point. She likes to be liked.

  7. 15 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    July 7, 2011 at 11:05 pm


    • 16 gc
      July 7, 2011 at 11:19 pm

      Of course they are not. That is nothing new. But that fools still follow them is what is baffling. It has got to be a brainwashing/clique/cult thing with a huge dose of miserati loves miserati mixed in.

      There are some who still follow DK because the P&W people have their own world there. And some like TIMT try to fight back.

      The others? Sad people.

      WE are the true Progressives and we don’t take these people seriously, other than some members of Pragmatic blogs venting or worrying. TRW and Pragmatics live in alternate universes, just visiting, getting outraged, and the coming back home.

      DK used to be the only game in town. People would brag about being a “TU” They were cooler than cool there – cynicism and irony was “the new black.” Stewart, who I cannot stand, still schticks it. I think old habits die hard.

  8. July 7, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    That sums it up. Sad, but true.

  9. July 7, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    OMG! Too cool for words.

  10. July 7, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    Not to defend the guy but Markos was at least young – in his teens when he supported Hyde (Hyde, of course, of the Hyde Amendment which blocks federal funds for abortions). All the rest had their ideological switch happen in their 30’s or later.

    • July 7, 2011 at 11:34 pm

      Fair enough StR, and I love people who see the political light and switch from the dark side (!!!!), but I honestly struggle with figuring out how you can make the journey from being a devotee of a far right politician to being a hardcore ‘progressive’ in the space of a few years. Far right to the center, no problem, but far right to professional left?

      • 21 ChristiMtl
        July 7, 2011 at 11:42 pm

        The complete lack of moderation on his site says it all to me. Green, libertarians, republicans, socialists, run the place. It’s so obvious.

        You cannot pretend that you want the Democratic party in power when you don’t clean your place from all that toxicity.

        It’s worse than Restate.

      • 22 Eleroy
        July 7, 2011 at 11:58 pm

        Very true CS, it IS VERY SUSPICIOUS!!! And I’m not buying the “he was in his teens” meme either!!!

        • 23 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          July 8, 2011 at 2:41 am

          ummm…………as I stated upstream these folks still have Republican in their blood. They can’t hide it and I refuse to be drug through their Obama hate and tirades. It is so depressing. Misery loves company and I choose not to be miserable. I am a upbeat persona always looking for the good in myself and people in general. May God bless America and the President Obama.

          BTW when are we going to get some punditry out in the media that have been Progressive/Liberal all their lives and are proud of it? The only talking heads on TV, print, and the internet are Rethugs supposedly turning into Progressives. hmmm…………suspicious. The Koch bros. and Karl Rove are some omninous figures.

          • July 8, 2011 at 3:52 am

            Bingo. It runs deep in their DNA.Personally, I think they figured this is a boon — an easy money making venture. The vacillation from I support him one day to the next day he’s evil is curious, indeed. I have zero respect or care for anything that comes out of their mouths.

      • 25 nathkatun7
        July 9, 2011 at 3:57 am

        Well said Chipstick! Even more troubling is how do you move from being a far right Republican to being a leader of a movement to divide, disrupt and destroy the Democratic party? I am a far left liberal. President Clinton was not my first choice. In 1992, I would have preferred Sen Tom Harkin, or Gov. Jerry Brown because I detested a number of Clinton’s policies. Besides, he was the leader of DLC. Once he was elected President, and was running for re-election, I would never have thought of viciously attacking him to facilitate the election of a Republican, including Bob Dole who, by to-day’s teaparty/Republicans standards, would would be considered a RINO. I am sorry, but the motives of these characters, who are now leading the vicious and relentless attacks on President Obama, seem very suspicious to me. StR make a good case about age. Sadly however, some tactics and habits learned at an early age may be hard to get rid of. The tactics used by the people you listed to attack and demonize President Obama are really quite similar to the tactics used by right wing bashers of the President.

      • 26 Dorothy Rissman
        July 9, 2011 at 6:59 pm

        Chips, you have been dynamite this weekend. wowie and zowie. Strong work. Have you been getting nasty messages?

        • July 9, 2011 at 7:07 pm

          Only a couple Dorothy! They’re tied up writing ‘OMG! OBAMA = HITLER’ posts this week 😉

          • 28 utaustinliberal
            July 9, 2011 at 7:12 pm

            Wow what ingenuity ….. NOT. If they’re insulting you Chipsticks… did you at least check that their spelling was correct? Because a good insult loses sting when it’s filled with “Obamba is a moran” “Stop raisen my taskes” “Stop messing with the Cannstiutin” “George Washintan hates Obamba.”

            Ignorant buffoons.

    • 29 meta
      July 7, 2011 at 11:48 pm

      Not sure how that makes what he does now OK because it’s a royal mess there right now. And by royal mess I mean a total cesspool. A counterproductive sewer, an undermining collection of drivel.

      • July 8, 2011 at 12:14 am

        I think he’ll look to sell it after 2012 – if not sooner if there is a traffic spike. SBNation makes him his money – DK is more of a hobby, and he seems disinterested in it. The DK4 relaunch was pretty much a bust, and as I mentioned above the PL business model doesn’t seem to have a plan for 2012 after President Obama is re-elected and they can’t threaten to withhold votes from him as their lone pressure technique.

        Problem it is that it doesn’t have any real world value. If he sells it and the buyer tries to make any changes – tries to moderate it in any way there will be the hater crew who thinks they run the place in full revolt. And if Hamsher took it over and started peddling her FDL garbage, than they’d lose whatever moderates are left there almost overnight.

        • 31 meta
          July 8, 2011 at 12:29 am

          StR, for all those reasons you cite, I think it’s basically worthless as a commodity. It doesn’t function except as a small center of extreme niche bloviating that most people don’t have any interest in penetrating. Not because different points of view aren’t interesting but because they’ve made it impervious to more than one idea. It’s ugly and boring all at the same time, a tough feat.

        • 32 askew
          July 8, 2011 at 12:38 am

          Judging from this site – http://siteanalytics.compete.com/redstate.com+dailykos.com/ , the traffic at DK is in a continual downward slide. The DK4 rollout, in my opinion, was to increase the # of clicks it took to reach diaries, etc. to bump up his #s. I think it backfired though because it was so user-unfriendly. That, plus the increasingly anti-Obama and anti-Democratic party posts/diaries have really hurt the site’s traffic and reputation. DK used to be known as the reasonable Democratic blog. Now, it is no different than FDL. Also, the increased traffic at this blog, BWD’s blog, balloon-juice and the people’s view has to be hurting DK as well.

  11. 33 maritza
    July 7, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    I’ll skip the hipe and keep on donating to reelect PBHO just bc I support him 100%, I had never donated to a politician before him. (My family have been keeping and eye on BO for a long time)

  12. July 7, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    I have a theory. That corporate msm wants the pl to attack the president from the left, subtle but powerful.

    Also, this recent bash fest started when the hospitals were going to get their overhead cut in Medicare!

    Maybe the corporate media uses the pl to do their dirty work?

    • 35 hopefruit2
      July 7, 2011 at 11:28 pm

      That is correct. They are both operating with the same agenda to keep what they have while leaving nothing for the poor- that’s why the PL is made up primarily of rather affluent folks.

    • 36 ChristiMtl
      July 7, 2011 at 11:31 pm

      It’s not subtle anymore!
      Their agenda is very clear.
      It’s 2010 all over again. Obama-bashing from the right – Obama-bashing from the left, It really motivates people to vote when they feel hopeless and think that there’s no difference between the parties. The media is a well oiled propaganda machine for the GOP.

      Fox News, Fox Light (CNN), Wannabe Fox News (MSNBC).

      The goal is to get the GOP back in power, 3 branches of the gvt. it’s a fact.

      It’s ugly, it’s disgusting, it’s tragic but Corporate America owns the messaging and for the PL, money talk.


    • 37 theo67
      July 8, 2011 at 12:01 am

      This makes sense, Jovie. Especially since they now know they can’t defeat the Financial Regulations Law and stop the Consumer Protection Bureau from rolling out the whip. They’re going a different route.

    • 38 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      July 8, 2011 at 2:47 am

      You think? No offense Jovie, but it is quite obvious who they really are. Unfortunately folks that aren’t obsessed with politics like we are will not see them for wolves they really are.

    • July 8, 2011 at 6:37 am

      There is no doubt about it. It seems so obvious to me. The most dissapointing person to me is Rachel, I thought she would be different from the rest, but clearly she is a sell-out too. We have to ignore the pundits. Just like PBO has been preaching for years. Get your news from the internet and go out and really do something for change. Its hard and can can bed uncomfortable, but I don’t see any other way.

  13. 41 HZ
    July 7, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Remember in an interview during the campaign the young lady ask what was one of the things that their father does not like? They replied, “He does not like whining,” said Sasha. These people DO NOT LISTEN to the President. POTUS DOES NOT Like whining. From my reading in several great books, it seems that his beautiful mother did not tolerate it from her children. It is in his DNA. These people just do not get it. President Obama will not allow these “Talking heads” determine his Presidency with their smallness.. We have too many things to get done with President Obama. So let us get the work done. That pisses(escuse me) them off so much. We are moving on. When will we see another President of the United States like this again?

    • 42 M
      July 7, 2011 at 11:41 pm

      HZ, I truly believe we will never see another President as great as PBO.

    • 44 Eleroy
      July 8, 2011 at 12:28 am

      President Obama is steely in his resolve and most people miss that very important aspect about the man!!!

      A man who can and will effectively compartmentalize and who takes his ego off the table, cannot be trumped!!!

      Those people trying to “hurt his feelings” in that very slimplistic and obvious way they try to, are wasting their time!!!

      This is a man who skips as rocks are thrown at him and who effortlessly demolishes his enemies biggest weapon against him by turning it into a huge joke!!!

      The man is PHENOMENAL!!! He ROCKS!!!

      To have just a sliver of this man’s fortitude, grace and ability to detach from the stupid and inane would change my life for the better and make my life tremendously easier!!!

  14. 45 Eleroy
    July 7, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    Wow!!! Thanks for this clear picture of who the enemy is!!! Wow!!!

    Did you guys read what Karl Rove wrote in his editorial in the WSJ 2 weeks ago that even a 1% drop in black voter turnout in North Carolina would wipe out President Obama’s winning margin!!!

    This is what it’s all about folks!!! If they can depress turn out especially among the reliable black voters, they hope they can defeat President Obama!!! And they have employed the republican trolls masquerading as concerned but fake liberal progressives!!!

    • 46 M
      July 7, 2011 at 11:37 pm

      Sleepy, I had not read that from Rove, but reading it just now makes me want to donate again and again and again to re-elect PBO!

      • 47 M
        July 7, 2011 at 11:39 pm

        Oh man, I am sorry I just noticed the iPad auto spell check changed your name to sleepy in my last message! I am sorry about that Eleroy!

    • 48 theo67
      July 8, 2011 at 12:05 am

      The thing is – it’s not just black people that they are alienating. It’s police, firefighters, teachers, auto workers, minorities, elderly, parents with kids who go to public school and other people who care. That 1% drop that they are trying to engineer with their efforts to deprive voters of their rights to vote may not be as significant as Rove thinks if they keep going. Plus, one needs to factor in the Republican candidate.

      • July 8, 2011 at 12:17 am

        I’m hoping the DOJ smacks down these voter laws because too many eligible voters will be blocked because of the new restrictions.

        • 50 theo67
          July 8, 2011 at 12:30 am

          Can the DOJ intervene at the state level? That would be awesome and would require popcorn to watch Repub heads exploding.

          • July 8, 2011 at 12:38 am

            I’m not exactly sure – I believe Nelson was going to call in the DOJ in Fla if Scott went ahead. I think they could because it involves federal elections.

          • 52 askew
            July 8, 2011 at 12:42 am

            They can, the question is if they will. The supreme court ruled the Indiana voter ID law was constitutional, so the DoJ might not have a legal leg to stand on in trying to fight these laws. The Democrats really should have pushed through a federal voter law while they had control of Congress and the WH. Or the Democrats should push for increased early voting, vote by mail, same day registration, no voter ID laws in states where we control the governorship and the state house. We need to be just as aggressive as the GOP in changing the voter laws to help our party.

    • 54 lmrj
      July 8, 2011 at 10:04 am

      Well, that must be why mittens and bachman are trying to appeal to the black vote by telling them that PBO has done nothing for them. The only problem with Rove’s assumption is that the AA community elected PBO. EVERYONE elected PBO… and that’s a fact!

  15. 55 Charmed
    July 7, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Why do Progressives think they are the whole democratic party, they’re just part of it, they don’t run it…..they are so extreme they’re pushing me to the right

      • 57 Charmed
        July 8, 2011 at 12:01 am

        is everybody in the democratic party progressives? I consider myself a moderate…my point was (I should have said some) progressives act like their way is the only way and if it’s not done that way then you’re not really a democrat….

        • 58 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
          July 8, 2011 at 3:11 am

          Charmed have you not read the previous posts? These people are not real Democrats. Lord help us the electorate is so NAIVE. No offense dear. Just an observation.

    • 59 Eleroy
      July 8, 2011 at 12:31 am

      I think you miss the point Charmed!!! These people are NOT Democrats and the “progressive” mask the use to infiltrate and destroy the Democratic party from within, has been essentially ripped off!!!

  16. 61 Blue
    July 7, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    If it looks like a duck, walk like a duck, quack like a duck, guess what? It’s a duck! All these people speak the same language, which is loathsomeness for this President, and it’s clear, that their job, is to poke holes in all his accomplishments, and paint him a person, that is untrustworthy. We all need to EDUCATE our family and friends about these people, and fight back with all our might.

    • 62 utaustinliberal
      July 8, 2011 at 1:28 am

      Exactly. I’ve been a democrat since I understood what prinicples they stood for. Fighting for the underdog, economic equality, social justice and fairness, accessible healthcare and education for all etc. I can never ever see myself becoming a republican, because their value system is warped in the extreme. It is one thing for a regular citizen who once had a republican ideology to become a democrat. It is another for a voice in the media to make that same switch. A regular citizen doesn’t have a huge megaphone reaching millions of people and making millions by spreading misinformation, mass fear and hysteria. This is what gets my goat about the above mentioned PL culprits named by Chipsticks. They were so far right in their thinking, it was in their very bones, yet when they saw an opportunity to rake in bigger amounts of cash they jumped ship. If one has strongly held beliefs, principles and political ideology, one’s foundation shouldn’t be so weak and easily swayed such that he/she is constantly switching between parties and political philosophies all in the chase for the almighty dollar.

  17. July 7, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    I went to Ed Schultz and told him exactly what I think of him. I told him that Barack Obama went to the Southside of Chicago and work with the poor people, he knows that the elderly depends on that S.S. check. He knows what the poor people go through and I do not believe he is going to cut these people benefits. I told him it would be nice if they would get the facts before they go all crazy. Why not try talking to someone from the administration so when they speak about it on the air, they would know what they are talking about. Finally I said I am dam tired of the likes of Schultz, Maddow and all the pundits at Msnbc. If it wasn’t for their loud mouths in 2010, and telling people not to go vote, the Tea-Republicans wouldn’t have control of the House.

    • 64 M
      July 7, 2011 at 11:40 pm

      You go anniebella, outstanding!

    • 65 meta
      July 7, 2011 at 11:45 pm

      Thank you, anniebella. Use your powerful voice!!

    • 66 Eleroy
      July 7, 2011 at 11:54 pm

      Way to go Anniebella, THANK YOU!!!

    • 67 theo67
      July 8, 2011 at 12:18 am

      You’re so right, Anniebella – the thing is, if these pundits called the White House or any of the surrogates, I’m sure they’d have someone at their disposal the same day to speak the truth about these things. They choose instead to give us their opinions, as though they’re facts.

      And yes, the President isn’t going to sell out the very people he worked with, choosing to work in the community instead of taking a high paying job. He’s already pays more in taxes than he’s paid to be President. He doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone anymore.

    • 68 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      July 8, 2011 at 3:15 am

      Thanks anniebella. Very noble of you. You should have also told him you know he isn’t a real Progressive and to stop deceiving the public. But I will take what you did. AWESOME. 🙂

  18. 69 meta
    July 7, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    So the purist PL wanted some imagined sainted angel to clean up all the horrific trash from Bush’s nightmare and all they got was Barack Obama? Seriously? Is that their complaint? It makes me sick to my stomach because we all know it’s about a lack of trust that is most certainly borne out of RACISM. Just a basic fact and it makes me sick to think about it. Clinton is still their hero so that says it all for me. That’s where all these screwed up people started from. PBO isn’t good enough for them somehow. Sometimes I really hate what this country has become when I think about everything he has had to endure. ENOUGH.

    • 70 theo67
      July 8, 2011 at 12:20 am

      The President isn’t even just cleaning up Bush’s mess. He’s cleaning up their hero’s mess (Clinton), too – see DADT, DOMA, outsourced jobs from NAFTA. The PL don’t know who they are.

      • 71 Puddin
        July 8, 2011 at 2:56 am

        Thank you….some people (it seems most people) have selective memory, they only remember what they want to (only the good things) but I remind folks (here in my world) that Clinton did some “thangs” that wasn’t/ain’t so cool…

        • 72 Puddin
          July 8, 2011 at 2:58 am

          P.S. I really wish Clinton would go somewhere, sit down and shut his mouth…he is not the president anymore. I am so through with him!

          • 73 theo67
            July 8, 2011 at 3:27 am

            Me,too. He had his fifteen minutes – they’re up already. He should know better, especially in an election year. And if he wants to make a statement, he should coordinate it with the Administration.

    • 74 N
      July 8, 2011 at 12:42 am

      Some of it might be racism but I think it’s more about people thinking they’re smarter and more important than they are. The professional lefties are about making a name for themselves and making money off of being “principled” opposition to Obama. They are especially anti-Obama because they thought they were kingmakers and then watched Obama build his own online army and bypass them. It’s all ego and selfishness. It’s not about advancing Democrats or progressives.

      That’s what’s makes it 10x worse. If I thought it was all about genuine concern for others, even the most vicious anti-Obama screeds would be easier to take. But it’s not… it’s all about the professional left’s self-importance.

      • July 8, 2011 at 4:03 am

        Lots of self-inflated egos. They believe their own hype. To me, they are specks in the universe.

      • 76 hopefruit2
        July 8, 2011 at 8:12 am

        N, I think a lot of it is rooted in racism, and and the idea that a Black person just cannot be more intelligent, make better decisions, or have the same or better values than them. These people were taught this nonsense growing up, and while intellectually, they may say otherwise, emotionally, they harbor these subsconcious attitudes and stereotypes. Do you notice that their “heroes” to primary the President are ALWAYS white? They’ve never suggested that a Black or latino congressperson or governor primary Obama. They’ve never suggested that Van Jones run for President. However, they always trot out a black person when it’s time to criticize the President to give themselves cover.

        • 77 conlakappa
          July 8, 2011 at 9:39 am

          You are on the money. Snaps, props, and dap too for standing strong on the orange [no, any whining nitwit from the orange, this is not collusion or collaboration just recognition of one person’s efforts to point out the BS when it was obvious enough for the whole world to step its whole foot into].

  19. 78 Blue
    July 7, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    Every time, one of these people start their crap, please re-post that list, so that we can never forget, who those people are.

  20. July 7, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    All they are doing is making us rally around him more staunchly.
    Remember when Clinton was being attacked by Ken Starr and move on.org was created to defend him?

    Well, maybe we should form a super PAC. Just saying!

    • 80 QuietObserver
      July 8, 2011 at 1:23 am

      Hey, if Colbert can do it…. 🙂

    • 81 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
      July 8, 2011 at 3:22 am

      Unfortunately I don’t believe moveon.org is a huge Obama supporter. I have been to their site and they have tepid support for him. Maybe things will change once we get closer to the election cause they will see the choices we have and find that PBO is the best we got which is phenominal cause he is a phenominal LEADER.

  21. July 7, 2011 at 11:52 pm


  22. July 8, 2011 at 12:20 am

    You forgot to add Joan Walsh

  23. July 8, 2011 at 12:21 am

    I know, I know but this time this news from this site is worth it:


    Jay carney questions the source of wa post ss cuts article. So, it was not a trial balloon, it was probably leaked by boners staff(who had a meeting with potus on Sunday) to start trouble. Boy, did it work!

    • July 8, 2011 at 12:33 am

      Sounds like the WaPo writer was too cowardly to show up to the briefing.

    • July 8, 2011 at 12:44 am

      I guess the prevailing wisdom is that it was a House Dem leak to sabotage things.

      One theory goes is that any deal will give the GOP House certain cover on their Ryan Budget vote (which might be a negotiating carrot the Admin is using as an offering to let them off the hook as the are realizing how bad it could be for them), and some in the Dem House caucus don’t want to give that up. In the bigger deal President Obama is pushing for, there would be changes to entitlements that would be largely cosmetic but would let the GOP off the hook for their Ryan budget vote), so the sabotage was to end the bigger deal possibility and hope one of the smaller deals is passed where the entitlements wouldn’t be touched so the House Dems could run on “See se stopped Medicare from even being touched – GOP voted to end it and we blocked that”.

      • 87 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
        July 8, 2011 at 3:30 am

        Well if this is true StR then I am kind of angry at PBO for the first time. Does he want to be re-elected or what? Making it easier on the very same Rethugs that hate and despise him and want him to be a one termer? The Dems want to use that Ryan Budget like a noose around their neck and I don’t blame them. They could take back the House yet alone keep the Whitehouse. I don’t understand PBO’s prevailing thought here if that is what he is really doing. It SUCKS. We have the RETHUGS cornered like caged animals.

        • 88 theo67
          July 8, 2011 at 3:42 am

          I think the President is not only concerned with making good things happen for the American people, but he’s also concerned that the Democracy can survive the current Republican meltdown. It’s not just about winning in the short term, but in the long term,too. if this country is going to survive the Republican meltdown, then there have to be two working, viable parties.

          If you’ve read any of his books, or Ghandi’s teachings, or Nelson Mandela’s books – you’ll know that they believe that no matter the battle, it’s important not to mess with a person’s dignity. There isn’t just one way to win.But if you lose yourself, then you lose anyway. Let the President fight these battles the way he knows how to fight. He’s been a winner up to now. He is the President, after all.

          • 89 Chi
            July 8, 2011 at 5:28 am

            Beautifully said Theo…

          • 90 FactPlus
            July 8, 2011 at 8:27 am

            I don’t think that’s the explanation for it. It seems to me that the President is concerned with ensuring that there is no debt default by the United States, as any adult occupying the White House would be, instead of whether the necessary decision he takes today will make him lose elections come 2012. Think about it, if you were President and you were faced with a situation where the world economy would go into a tailspin if you did nothing but would win elections handsomely in 18months time or where you saved the word economy but was in danger of losing an election because of it, which choice would you make. As a pragmatic progressive I would choose the latter.

    • July 8, 2011 at 8:03 am

      I would put my money on it being a liberal/progressive in Congress.

  24. 92 theo67
    July 8, 2011 at 12:28 am

    It’s like these PL and no-loyalty, no-trust supporters are just in a perpetual state of waiting for the President to disappoint them.Since he isn’t, their frustration gets more and more virulent. They overreact to everything because he’s not falling into the stereotype they’ve built around him.

    Randi Rhodes chastised a man who was hyperventilating on her show today (I only caught the last 20 minutes in the car, because I thought she was still away). He was delivering his ultimatum for PBO if he changes a “single thing” about social security. She told him to call Congress, and that what the man is actually angry about is that PBO doesn’t fight the way the man wants him to fight. PBO fights smart, and doesn’t waste time and energy screaming and making a scene. He leaves that to others. I wish I’d heard the whole show.

    • July 8, 2011 at 12:37 am

      The pl are in fact naderites purity control and non democrats. The problem is they are driving a wedge between the WH and the congressional dems!

    • 94 meta
      July 8, 2011 at 12:40 am

      I’ve never seen a President micro-managed like this in my entire life. It’s just pathetic and infantilizing. It’s become a cottage industry. Totally disgusting and ultimately dangerous when you consider that our economy is being played with to this extent.

      • 95 Eleroy
        July 8, 2011 at 12:54 am

        Precisely!!! Micro-management at its worst!!!

        I too have NEVER seen anything like this!!! Every idiot including the dumbest of the lot feel supremely qualified to instruct and direct the most brilliant and most impeccable President in a generation!!!

        It is sheer madness!!!

    • 96 Eleroy
      July 8, 2011 at 12:57 am

      I love Randi, but cannot and will not stomach that stupendously idiotic chick she has filling in for her, so I tune out while Randi’s gone!!!

      Good to know she’s back, I’ll tune in tomorrow!!!

      • 97 theo67
        July 8, 2011 at 1:52 am

        I can’t stand that woman who fills in for her either. I’ve been off work this week, lazing around the house, pool and beach. I thought I’d have a whole week of listening to Randi at noon, only to find Nicole Sandler. Very disappointing. And then I missed the whole show today until I had to go somewhere – and heard she was back. Very disappointing (to have missed her show). She was very good, as usual.

        • 98 Chi
          July 8, 2011 at 5:35 am

          Add me to that group that completely abhors that Nicole Sandler person…

          What a simpleton…

          She sucks and I worry each time Randi is away that this woman will lose Randi her core audience…

          Have you ever heard so much tired and worn-out, passive-aggressive Obama-bashing…

          And she wonders why she’s stuck doing an ‘online radio show’, whatever that means…

          • 99 Anonymous
            July 8, 2011 at 2:32 pm

            I also hate that Nicole Sandler person and stay away when she’s on. We should all drop a note to Randi to let her know.

  25. 100 Anonymous
    July 8, 2011 at 12:34 am

    All you have to do is listen to these people and you know they’re all double agents. Their criticizms of the President are so over the top it’s plain to see they don’t support him. I don’t watch all of them, but Ed is pretty bad, but I’ve gotten to the point that I cannot listen to the Cenk Uygur or whatever his name is (where did he come from anyway, and why does he have a show?) The guy praises a few progressive principles, but he NEVER has anything good to say about the President. If he says the President needs to get more “backbone” one more time I might go looking for him and kick him in his backbone.

  26. 103 Bobfr
    July 8, 2011 at 1:35 am

    Very important that they are being exposed, very important.

    They have a unified agenda.

    Make as much money as they can irrespective of whatever amount of hypocrisy is required or damage to America is done, i.e., no matter how they label themselves, how phony their ‘liberal’ or ‘left’ shtick, they are congenitally and irrevocably Republicans.

    A few months ago it was proposed to Deaniac at TPV that he consider implementing the “World of FactCraft” – precise, cogent, aggressive exposure of these hypocrites. What is so wonderful is that he and his TPV colleagues, you Ms Chipsticks and others, are doing just that and we all should be grateful for your doing so. I know I am.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • 104 theo67
      July 8, 2011 at 2:00 am

      Bobfr – I heard that Libyan rebels made progress in Gadaffy terrotory.Did you hear anything new?

    • 106 Chi
      July 8, 2011 at 5:38 am

      The do indeed have unified agenda Bob, that has absolutely nothing to do with building up our country and union and everything to do with self-aggrandizement and raking in the spoils from devastating our union…

  27. 107 Anya
    July 8, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Hey Chipsticks, I despise these people as much as the next sane person, but people can change their minds and their politics. I trust these people (except Arianna and Hamsher, who are both motivated by profit) had a genuine change of heart. We’re humans, our politics and believes are not static, they evolve with time.

    • July 8, 2011 at 8:15 am

      I find it interesting that people who have been all over the political map have the gall to question Obama’s loyalty to Dem principles. I also find it curious that much of the PL have supported Democrats who were to the right of Obama but will tell you that Obama is not a liberal or that he is a secret Republican. Everyone listed in that post are hypocrites not because of what they used to believe but because of what they currently say. There are people who change their minds and then there are those people on that list.

    • 111 hopefruit2
      July 8, 2011 at 8:27 am

      Anya, you trust that Cenk and Glen Greenwald had a genuine change of heart? I have to disagree with you here Anya. Cenk, as recently as last year made the outlandish claim that Ronald Reagan (his hero whom he STILL admires) was to the “left” of President Obama in the way he governed. You call that a genuine change of heart? Or a revisionist history to suit one’s disingenuous anti-Obama propaganda.

      And Glen Greenwald on twitter used the phrase “Obama and the liberals” on of his twits to his fellow Libertarian friends. And Greenwald endorsed Gary Johnson (A far-right wing Republican former governor of New MExico) for President!!! You call that a “genuine” change of heart?

      John Avarosis harbours some deep-seated racist ideas about this President and the black community in general. In 2009, after the California prop 8 vote, he distorted the exit poll data to advance the narrative that it was Black people who were mostly behind the anti same sex marriage vote. He pushed this and the media ran with it, only to find out the data really showed that it was religion and not race that was the deciding factor in people’s votes. Avarosis NEVER retracted his initial statements – even knowing that he was wrong. I also heard that Avarosis once twitted that “Black people are insane!” and that must have been relatively recent since Twitter didn’t really take off until after Obama’s election.

    • 112 Anonymous
      July 8, 2011 at 10:55 am

      But yet, I’ve never read or see Ms. Huffington evoke anything positive about this President, never! Why is that?

  28. 113 Ikonos Youros
    July 13, 2011 at 9:33 am

    …and that is why I seldom, if ever, read or listen to anyone that isn’t a life-long Democrat. These Professional Leftists are in it for the money, as they stick their fingers to the political winds to see which way their bank accounts can get filled the easiest.

    And those Democrats of the Left Fringes are the easiest fooled by these opportunists.

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