129 Responses to “out on a limb”


  1. July 6, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Turtles don’t like it out on limbs!

  2. 4 Me4obama
    July 6, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Now thats a heavy hitter. Ouch, ouch, ouch. Go Dems.

  3. 5 Ceb
    July 6, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Finally! Some push back.

  4. 7 utaustinliberal
    July 6, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    OMG!!!!! OMG!!!!! OMG!!!! Chipsticks!!!! They’re playing another one of our TOD songs. Nocturne by Secret Garden. Your song/video combo for the Obamas Latin America trip. They’re playing the song on a dance show called So You Think You Can Dance and the song is being set to a waltz. It’s beautiful and when I heard the song, I started yelling… “Chipsticks’ song!!!!!!” 😆

    • 8 gc
      July 6, 2011 at 9:04 pm

      Nocturne is gorgeous. Love Secret Garden! I didn’t know it was popular with our lady as well. I burned a copy of one their CD’s for my mother, whose got all manner of health problems. She uses their music to relax and restore.

  5. 11 Jean
    July 6, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Great ad!!!! About time too!!!!

  6. 12 Ladyhawke
    July 6, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Mitch McConnell sounds just as wacky, unhinged and just as nuts as Michele Bachmann. Here’s some more material for the Senate Democrats.

    MCCONNELL: WE LOOK A LOT LIKE GREECE ALREADY:

    It’s difficult to say without knowing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) personally, but he either isn’t very bright, or he says dumb things on purpose, in the hopes that we’re not very bright.

    Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) said Wednesday that the financial state of the U.S. is similar to bankrupt Greece.

    Making the case for major spending reductions a day before congressional leaders will meet with President Obama, McConnell said, “We look a lot like Greece already.”

    No sane person could believe this. Greece has a debt crisis and an awful credit rating. It’s a small country with a small economy, and a government structure that’s a little shaky.

    To see Greece and its crisis and think the United States looks “a lot like Greece” is the kind of sentiment that should send a pretty loud signal to the political world: Mitch McConnell is someone who doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously.

    If the Minority Leader meant what he said, he’s a fool. If he didn’t mean what he said, and this is some sort of political game, he’s a cynical con man.

    Either way, the fact that he’s leading the Senate Republican caucus isn’t a healthy development for any of us.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_07/mcconnell_we_look_a_lot_like_g030707.php#

    • 13 meta
      July 6, 2011 at 8:59 pm

      GAWD, this is just so incredibly pathetic. What a obstructionist buffoon. I have to say I really don’t understand Kentucky.

      • 14 Ladyhawke
        July 6, 2011 at 9:09 pm

        I agree. Mitch McConnell and the Republicans have rendered the United States Senate dysfunctional. It’s an outrage and a travesty. It is so frustrating to think that President Obama has to deal with elected government officials who are actively trying to sabotage the economic recovery for partisan political gain. I have never seen anything like this in my life.

        As far as I cam concerned, the Republican Party has already diminished our standing in the world with their reckless behavior. You can just image the rest of the world just shaking their heads in amazement. I am so tired of these eleventh hour events. There is no reason why we should be down to the wire on the debt limit. In the past the party in power just made sure it got done. The debt limit was raised at least five times during the Bush administration. This is no way to run a democracy in the 21st century.

        • 15 meta
          July 6, 2011 at 9:21 pm

          Yes, the right-wing nuts thrive on a crisis mentality. It’s the only way they can get attention because they have NO ideas of their own. The only thing they know how to do is muck things up at the expense of everyone else. UGH.

          • 16 Betsy
            July 7, 2011 at 1:06 am

            And the MSM is right there with them. All they crave is drama! It’s so irritating. Why can’t they present the facts and cut through the dramatics and crap the GOP keeps shelling out and expose them for what they really are: people who hate government, and can’t govern. I don’t understand why the GOP even exists today. Why should people who hate the federal government even bother to serve in the federal government. They are supposed to get paid to work, and if I worked like they did, I’d get fired.

    • 17 GGail
      July 6, 2011 at 9:11 pm

      And you know the President will blow him out of the water with FACTS. You should know by now, that GOPs love throwing FEAR out in the air. For your health…don’t breath it.

  7. 18 Doris
    July 6, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Love the SenateDemocrats website Chips. Great videos. It would be nice if this one was added tto he blogroll. I didn’t know this one existed. I will be visiting it everyday.

  8. July 6, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    This is a situation which should have been taken care of weeks ago. The Republicans are acting as terrorists, who are all set to blow up our country, just to win in 2012, and to take care of the rich.

  9. July 6, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Somethings happening with Pakistani support:

    http://m.upi.com/m/story/UPI-34981309951340/

    Furthermore, they have engaged the haqqani network in north waziristan with there army. Hmmmm!

  10. 22 GGail
    July 6, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    I think I hear the footsteps of the Democrats marching up to do battle……..

  11. 27 Doris
    July 6, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    All this hate comes from the fact that there is a black man at the helm. There is no other reason. Pure outright prejudice and hate. Bottom line. Nothing would surprise me now, nothing. Republicans will sell this country down the river to destroy Barack Obama and his legacy. Shame, shame, shame.

      • 29 Doris
        July 6, 2011 at 9:54 pm

        I try not to get too upset Chips. My blood pressure and all, but as an AA I can’t see any other reason for the way these people act. I’ve been black for 62 years and I know racism when I see it.

        • July 6, 2011 at 10:15 pm

          I hate to think of you so hurt by all of this Doris, but we all know it is pure, unadulterated racism. Nothing will ever persuade me that that’s not the driving force behind the right and the professional left’s agenda – and the PL’s allies in the extreme wing of the gay rights movement (Choi, Greenwald, Aravosis, etc) who still blame AA’s for Prop 8 and all that crap. My heart goes out to the good people campaigning for gay rights, their voices are drowned out by these bigots. They all sneer at the suggestion of racism and dismiss it as playing ‘the race card’ – but that’s precisely what it is. They are ugly people, bigoted to the core.

          “I’ve been black for 62 years and I know racism when I see it.”

          I bow to your experience Doris and respect it with all my heart, but don’t let these creatures get you down: Barack Obama defeated them in 2008 – and he will again in 2012. That won’t end the hate or the bigotry, but it will be a powerful message to them, their hate won’t grind us down. Ever.

          • 31 Doris
            July 6, 2011 at 10:19 pm

            Thanks Chips, how did you know my heart was hurting tonight. I’m going to sign off for a little while and take a break. Love you and the TOD family.

            • 32 Puddin
              July 6, 2011 at 11:02 pm

              “Hold on old soldier”….that’s what my Mama would say! Stay strong sweetie,”it’s going to be alright in the morning”…this song came to mind when I read your words/felt your pain and disgust…”hold on old soldier”.

          • 33 Puddin
            July 6, 2011 at 10:57 pm

            Chipsticks…your words…like arms wrapping around Doris…holding and soothing her is such a sweet gentle way…as an AA sometimes we don’t/I don’t think people get that we feel hurt/the pain of today’s racism, yesterday’s racism…we deal with it everyday all the time, but sometimes it affects us in such away that takes us down so deep and heavy…we sometimes we can’t/I can’t even explain how bad the pain of racism feels…so for you to feel/understand Doris’ pain, was touching…the way you wrapped your words around her, was special. Thank you!

        • 34 Betsy
          July 7, 2011 at 1:23 am

          I’m sorry, Doris. I’m a 56yr old white woman, and I know racism when I see it too. You are absolutely right. I’m so sorry but if it’s any consolation, there are alot of us white folk who love the Prez, me included. Our hearts go out to you because this is not what the freedom riders, the many of us who support civil rights, who believe in the truth that God created us ALL equal and in His image, no matter the color, ethnicity, religion, etc. These are the sentiments in our constitution and declaration of independence. We.can.do.better.

          Obama reflects the best in all of us. We need to work harder to show that goodness to the world.

  12. 35 halo
    July 6, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/07/us/politics/07fiscal.html?hp

    WASHINGTON — Heading into a crucial negotiating session on a budget deal on Thursday, President Obama has raised his sights and wants to strike a far-reaching agreement on cutting the federal deficit as Speaker John A. Boehner has signaled new willingness to bargain on revenues.

    Mr. Obama, who is to meet at the White House with the bipartisan leadership of Congress in an effort to work out an agreement to raise the federal debt limit, wants to move well beyond the $2 trillion in savings sought in earlier negotiations and seek perhaps twice as much over the next decade, Democratic officials briefed on the negotiations said Wednesday.

    Chipsticks, the President is beating them at their OWN GAME!! He’s outflanking them on deficits and being more reasonable. He’s putting pressure on them to pass Jobs bills like the Infrastructure bank. He’s been better on foreign policy. He pushed through Healthcare and DADT. I hope he gets this package through because it will be a huge victory and the deficit/debt issue will have been neutralized for the campaign.

    Let’s see how the jobs numbers come out last month. Econmists are forecasting that UE will have fallen to around 8% next year.

    • 36 theo67
      July 6, 2011 at 10:38 pm

      Unfortunately, the article states that there are Dems threatening the President that he can’t come to them with a deal and expect them to take it. Well, they failed to do their job and get a deal – and then cried for President Obama to get involved,again. Now they want to act like they’re somebodies. Why are these people called “adults”?

  13. July 6, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Afghan troops kill 276 Taliban in past two weeks:

    http://m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/afghanistan-says-276-rebels-killed-two-weeks-094214254.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us

    But but but the msm said the afghan soldiers were all baked and hi, and John McCain said…

  14. 39 Doris
    July 6, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Rev. Al vs. Rep. Joe Walsh on Tax Cuts for the Wealthy. Walsh got his butt handed to him.

    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/07/06/video-rev-al-sharpton-vs-rep-joe-walsh-on-tax-cuts-for-the-wealthy/

    • 40 GGail
      July 6, 2011 at 10:02 pm

      Walsh and Pat Buchanan got leveled by Rev Al and Bill Press. It was a great show. Al is getting good at this talk show gig 🙂

      • 41 Doris
        July 6, 2011 at 10:08 pm

        His passion for the middle class and the President are showing through. He’s done with this nonsense and is now getting an opportunity to speak out, so he’s making the most of it. Love it.

    • 42 desertflower
      July 6, 2011 at 10:37 pm

      I just got so pissed watching that crazy Tea Party Walsh….OMG.The Rev. handles him very well…he did NOT want to answer Rev Al’s question, because they always deflect the question away from the real issue at hand. I had to turn that batcrap crazy racist Pat Buchannon off. I can’t tolerate him. Why does MSNBC pay that man to spew his vile opinions? However, I do like Bill Press very much…if you can, let me know what they said…in a nutshell:) Thanks.

      • 43 theo67
        July 6, 2011 at 10:41 pm

        I’m watching Rev Al this week while he’s subbing for Idiot Cenk. That Joe Walsh almost had me throwing my wine glass at the TV. What a liar.

        Look – if your argument is sound and righteous, why do you have to distort it and mislead? Lying about spending, distorting the fact that deficit is to pay for debts incurred mostly by Repubs, calling the President names. I could barely stand it.

        Republicans are the lowest form of humanity.

        • 44 desertflower
          July 6, 2011 at 11:29 pm

          I agree, theo…he is a liar…and if anyone here lives in his Illinois district, give him a holler and call him out.He reminded me of John Ensign.What a slug.

  15. July 6, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Ok Rachel just did it again! She fucking lied about that 9th circuit order today- saying that the court ordered the Obama administration to stop implementing dadt.

    Ahhh – Rachel- that is bc the DOJ fought for it.

    Omg- what a bitch. Seriously. She has an agenda of lying.

    • July 6, 2011 at 9:37 pm

      And she is all about thar log cabin republicans that she gives props to.

      There is only one thing left to determine. Will she just admit she is racist and get it over with?

    • 47 Me4obama
      July 6, 2011 at 9:41 pm

      Sorry Jovie you had to watch and Listen to the Lies of that woman. I stopped watching her that dreadful night she ruined my night of happiness when they passed gay marriage in NY. I swore I will never watch her again and I have kept my promise and am better for it.

    • 51 ChristiMtl
      July 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm

      wow I didn’t watch her. She said that??

    • 52 EDP4BHO
      July 6, 2011 at 10:40 pm

      Hey Jovie, what happens when you get caught in a lie? You tell another and another until somehow, somebody believes you are telling the truth. This is what happens when a narcissist opens his/her mouth. Rachel can’t possibly be wrong. Oh no, especially after she defended Weiner and he lied to her face. Has she ever admitted she’d been played? I think she is running around in circles now trying to save face. I am very disappointed in her. I thought she had it going on, but alas, she’s another talking head, with a too large ego. F U Rachel Maddow !

  16. 53 ChristiMtl
    July 6, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    why is she doing that? She’s intelligent enough to know it’s a lie….I don’t get it.

    • July 6, 2011 at 10:04 pm

      Me neither but it is disconcerting. It’s almost like she is messing with us!

      • 55 Audrey
        July 6, 2011 at 10:24 pm

        “Messing with us”?!
        No dear, little Rachel Maddow can only “mess” with anyone who gives her the power by watching her little show and giving her undeserved ratings!
        If Rachel has no audience, she has no relevance!

        • 56 Puddin
          July 6, 2011 at 11:24 pm

          …that’s what I’m sayin’. I haven’t been able to watch Rachel since that night when she told the bald face lie. I have been curious, but when I turn to her show and I see her face, I have to turn away…I can’t stand you look at her!

          • 57 theo67
            July 7, 2011 at 12:12 am

            I was tempted tonight because of the same reason that Jovie was tempted. I thought she would have some kind words to say about the DADT ruling. But when I came hear and saw that she’s still being obstinate about admitting that she was wrong – and now she’s compounding it by lying – I deleted the show from my DVR. Along with Ed, and Chris Hayes subbing for Lawrence O’Donnell. I had enough just watching Rev Al – that was almost too much to bear, but he was in fighting form!

            I think I’m done with MSNBC.

        • July 7, 2011 at 6:42 am

          I don’t watch her either, If given a choice between Maddow and Sponge Bob Square peg, guess who wins?

    • 59 Doris
      July 6, 2011 at 10:08 pm

      She’s a hater.

  17. 60 ChristiMtl
    July 6, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Oh boy, the s*** is going to hit the fan after that breaking news. Pres. Obama will propose major cuts in entitlement programs, Medicare, Medicaid…in exchange of tax increases. The Net is going to be on fire.

    • July 6, 2011 at 10:50 pm

      I seen that and I’m going to be silent for now.

      • 62 ChristiMtl
        July 6, 2011 at 10:51 pm

        Now they’re talking about SS………..I don’t know what’s going on……

        • July 6, 2011 at 10:53 pm

          I will see what happens tomorrow after the meeting…….but, I’m hoping it’s not true.

            • 65 theo67
              July 7, 2011 at 12:23 am

              Thanks – this was a nice dose of sane scenario testing, but there’s some freakout happening in the comments, too. I guess we’ll know when we know. All I know right now is that the President cares deeply for the American people, and isn’t going to make a deal that would harm them – especially in the long term. There are some cuts and reform that will have to happen, and people will freak out over that. But, he’s going to make the best deal that he can, knowing that he’s the one who has to campaign next year and endure the screeching and tearing of clothes by his “base”. He’s in that job for a reason, and he hasn’t let us down yet.

              • July 7, 2011 at 9:24 am

                Comments freakout – yeah. 😦 There are certain commenters there that I don’t bother to read, because they are ALWAYS negative. I read the post and Tarheeldem(sp? -don’t want to go check), who seems to have become somwhat jaded in the last months, but who generally had/has a ‘sensible’ contribution.

                Theo, thanks for YOUR very sane reiteration of the proven FACT that ‘the President cares deeply for the American people, and isn’t going to make a deal that would harm them – especially in the long term’. He has proven this over and over, yet …..
                I confess that a ‘pet’ hurt of mine is when the President’s supporters fall into the ‘wait and see’ mode. IMO we don’t need to wait and see (and I’m NOT throwing stones at ANYONE – we all feel what we feel) because we KNOW the President from his words and his actions. He is a man of his words, even if he chooses a path we didn’t see, wouldn’t take, or think is too convoluted! Despite all his gifts, I don’t think I would want to be the President, because I would get tremendously hurt (and huffy) if friends don’t seem to trust me until I prove myself, … again and again.

      • 68 ChristiMtl
        July 6, 2011 at 11:06 pm

        Its was on the Ed show on MSNBC. There’s an article in Huffington, front page.

        • July 6, 2011 at 11:21 pm

          The article uses the words “cuts” throughout the article while adding this: “Obama is proposing significant reductions in Medicare spending and for the first time is offering to tackle the rising cost of Social Security, according to people in both parties with knowledge of the proposal.”

          Until the media or anyone can show that these are cuts to benefits, it just sounds like a lot of guessing going on here. Whatever Obama says tomorrow is not the final deal, it is just one more day of negotiations. I am not going to get excited or worried about any of this until a final deal. I remember what happened during the budget talks where Obama was supposed to have given away everything and didn’t. Then there was the speech where Obama was supposed to hand Paul Ryan entitlements on a platter instead he handed him his ass.

        • 71 Chi
          July 7, 2011 at 1:09 am

          When did Ed Schultz become a credible source…?

          Loud, uninformed hysterics should never be mistaken for credible information…

        • 73 meta
          July 6, 2011 at 11:18 pm

          Typical MSM story – no specifics about the they’re talking about, just hair on fire. They love a good freakout. We’ll see what happens tomorrow but I’m really tired of being jerked around by the MSM and do not trust anything they print.

          • 74 Chi
            July 7, 2011 at 1:30 am

            And unfortunately Meta, many supposed supporters of the President take the bait again and again…

            How does President Obama get anything done if even his supporters freak out at every fake leak from unreliable no-name sources…

            We either trust and support this President as he manuevers the most treacherous landscape and most destructive/obstructive congress, supreme court and media… or we get out of the way and let those who truly respect and trust this President’s head, heart and brilliant mind…

            • July 7, 2011 at 5:45 pm

              ‘We [need to] trust and support this President as he manuevers the most treacherous landscape and most destructive/obstructive congress, supreme court and media… ..head, heart and brilliant mind…’ 🙂

              Amen!

              Chi, I share your frustration with the repeated questioning/doubts at every leak from questionable sources, or even from non-questionable ones, but we don’t really want any of the President’s supporters to step aside. IMO we need every vote, but I do find the reliability of the repetitive ‘wailing’ at every rumour somewhat insulting to the President, and somewhat irksome.

              • 76 Chi
                July 10, 2011 at 1:03 am

                Dear V.C, it is indeed insulting and irks me too to no end when supposed supporters of this extraordinarily brilliant, compassionate, hardworking, focused, evolved, long-sighted and all around amazing President go nuts at the drop of a hat…

                I trust my President completely…

                No if’s and/or but’s about it…

    • 77 desraye
      July 6, 2011 at 11:07 pm

      If you read the article the source is a democratic official. Who is the democratic official? It could be anybody. Somebody going around spreading rumors. Pelosi and Dems will not go for this. This is not true.

    • 78 Puddin
      July 6, 2011 at 11:12 pm

      …when I walked into my office (my tv was on MSNBC) and I heard Crazy Ed say something about BREAKING NEW…BLAH, BLAH, BLAH and then he went to commerical and turned the channel to watch reruns of The Mentalist…I just didn’t want to hear his mouth…I will wait to get the “lowdown” from you all.

  18. July 6, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Shit should hit the fan. Taxes could be cut by the next Republican President in a snap of the fingers – this congress passed the Bush Tax Cuts afterall without paying for them that directly led us to this mess. I say they did it on purpose in order to get SS and Medicare cuts forced by crying about the debt/deficit that they purposefully caused.

    • July 6, 2011 at 11:13 pm

      The president has no leverage, and the republicans know it.
      So much fir running in the Ryan plan.

      What a shitty hand the president was dealt when he took over. Gotta wonder if bush knew he was going to Lose and tanked the economy on the out.

      • July 6, 2011 at 11:18 pm

        Plus, Jovie, his own party screwed him when they had the majority. They could have dealt with all of these issues. Cowards.

      • July 6, 2011 at 11:19 pm

        Nah, the tanking economy cost McCain any chance at being elected. The GOP was hoping it would hold on for 5 more months. So the a President McCain could slash spending left and right under the guise of “hey we need to do this to cut the deficit”. If the GOP had planned for the meltdown sooner, than Romney would have been their candidate with the economy as the focus. However they probably banked on Sec. Clinton winning and would be able to run on the Clinton economy so instead tried to make it a national security election with their Prisoner of War Hero McCain.

      • 84 utaustinliberal
        July 6, 2011 at 11:23 pm

        I think you’re wrong Jovie and you’re grossly underestimating this President. He has all the leverage in the world. Need I remind you that he wields a thousand times more powerful bully pulpit than the rats on the other side if the aisle. Also He is no fool when it comes to negotiation. Remember the behind the scenes events that came out about the govt shutdown debate when he would not budge on defunding Planned Parenthood, cutting Title X programs for women and children and at the end of the day, his hardball methods won out and the repubs thought they had cut billions from the budget, but when it came down to real numbers they had only cut a pittance. The President won that fight for the middle and working class and he’ll do so again. All this rightwing and leftwing talk that he’s going to drastically slash funding for Medicare and Medicaid in order to get republicans to riase the debt ceiling is hogwash and everyone needs to calm down and stop panicking.

        • July 6, 2011 at 11:28 pm

          I don’t believe anything is gained from not pushing back. If you’re 100% right and the changes are raising the cap etc, the pushback from the left will allow Pres. Obama to say “See I’m getting hammered from the left for even doing these things, you can’t expect me to do anymore because I won’t get the votes”. If there is a “Gee we trust the President” and no pushback to this potential trial balloon than the GOP could say “look Obama, you can give up more on SS cuts because you’re not taking enough heat”.

          A freak out is good.

          • 86 utaustinliberal
            July 6, 2011 at 11:39 pm

            I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a pushback Str. I’m saying why all the pushback and mindless panicking over msm speculation at best, crap reporting at worse. A so called dem official leaked the news that PBO would slash Medicare and Medicaid. This is utter baloney and everyone needs to stop running around like headless chickens when no one knows the full story if there is any story at all.

            • July 7, 2011 at 12:06 am

              Thanks for pushing back against panicking and alarmism. it is definitely one of my pet peeves — whether in the media, on other blogs, or here.

              i hope readers here will learn to consider the source when deciding whether to react to certain posters’ interpretation of media stories, news articles, or the President’s words and actions.

              Don’t anybody’s spin or lack of understanding of something send you into a tizzy.

              i hate to see it happen, but it seems to keep happening regularly, and I usually just scroll on by. Glad to see this discussion tonight.

              Goodnight, TOD Family! 😉

              • 88 utaustinliberal
                July 7, 2011 at 12:19 am

                You’re welcome PJ. People were FREAKING OUT on twitter which is what the msm and PL want. They want to erode support for PBO by hitting his true base in their weak spots. Thank goodness within the past 8-10 minutes folks on twitter have calmed down and are now correctly blaming the msm and not PBO. No one knows what PBO will decide, so take a deep breath and calm down!

          • 90 theo67
            July 7, 2011 at 12:34 am

            The push back from Dems only ever serves to weaken the President’s hand. It’s always that way. And Republicans end up getting away scott free. It would be nice if just for once, people could trust that the President is going to make a deal that is best for the country, and not try to join in on the second guessing. This happens every single time, and it always backfires, and then the same people who caused it decide that it’s the President’s fault. Gets tiring after three years, longer for those who were involved in the campaign.

            It’s also a bit discouraging after such an awesome Twitter session that we have to end the day second guessing the President. It’s such a waste of energy, and doesn’t do anybody any good. This is exactly what they want.

        • 92 EDP4BHO
          July 6, 2011 at 11:31 pm

          As for cutting Medicare, perhaps we are talking about all the wasteful spending with that program. It’s what PBO ran on, offered it during the health care debates, and insists still that it needs to be trimmed but in ways that leave it efficient. We should all just wait and see what the deal is. Again, nite all 😀

        • 93 desertflower
          July 6, 2011 at 11:40 pm

          Totally agree.MORE than totally agree:) This man knows full well the need for a safety net and promises made to generations of Americans. He reads people’s letters to him everyday of their struggles, just trying to stay afloat after the mess that was made.He talked today of making these entitlement programs more efficient and cutting waste, but talked again about the unfairness that the wealthy do not pay their fair share…and it is on the backs of the poor and middle class.He may tweek, and the normal screamers will scream holy hell, but in the end..he knows who gets away with murder and who should be getting a hand up. Do NOT underestimate this President…he will get a deal done and leave some in the room shaking their collective heads and wondering what just happened. Mark my words.

        • 95 Betty's Girl
          July 6, 2011 at 11:54 pm

          Thank you so much Utaustinliberal! I try to respect everyone’s opinions and views but I’m at a lost for some board members who have so little faith in the President. He has done nothing in the past three years to warrant such a lack of faith. He has cleaned the Repubs clocks time and time again. I won’t even pretend that I understand everything that is happening with the budget deal but I cannot see the so called Repubs upperhand in this deal. True they can manipulate the media very well but since when has the President reacted to that.

        • July 7, 2011 at 11:09 am

          He’s also got Wall Street in his corner . They’ll crush Boehner if he screws this up and the President knows it. No way is Mr Speaker going to let tea partiers that never liked him anyway stand between him and that money river which awaits after he leaves Congress.

          If that was the only leverage Obama had it will still be more than enough.

    • 97 Puddin
      July 6, 2011 at 11:19 pm

      Oh my…I think I will watch reruns for awhile (until things calm down)…my nerves can’t take too much…oh my, my, my!

  19. July 6, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    I’m just going to say a prayer for PBO that he hold strong. Anyone could have leaked this to make PBO look bad. He just said a few hours ago at his Twitter town hall that he did not want to touch these things. Why would he say that if he knew he was going to cut a deal to do exactly that? That makes him look like a liar. Someone’s trying to stab him in the back (democrat) or force his hand (rethug).

    • July 6, 2011 at 11:31 pm

      Look, we are not going to like this but he still needs our support, now more than ever. The alternative is the end of both parties and maybe America as we know it.

      • 100 utaustinliberal
        July 6, 2011 at 11:43 pm

        Jovie once again please STOP the mindless panicking over half baked “stories”. It was a leaked story by a supposed dem official and the msm is running with crap out of their collective asses and there is never going to be “an end of both parties and America as we know it.” It’s hyperbolic language like this that makes a lot of people take temporary leave of their senses. Why are you panicking when there has been no word from PBO? What is there to panic about?

        • July 6, 2011 at 11:59 pm

          No WH pushback. And I am one of those totally reliant on the government. Gee, why am I panicky? Hmmmm!

        • July 7, 2011 at 12:08 am

          Amen :-).

          I think some people just love to see others get worked up.

          Just my opinion.

          • July 7, 2011 at 12:26 am

            Or maybe they spent 20 years in the military and now they have PTSD.

            How is your life going?

            • 104 utaustinliberal
              July 7, 2011 at 12:36 am

              Oh Jovie please quit the hyperbolic crap! PJ is right. Stop the panicking. You write these one line sentences filled with doom and gloom. PJ is absoluetly correct when she says everyone should stop getting worked up. After we all get worked up, scream and holler, and gnash our teeth, what then is left? Mindless panicking never got anyone far. It’s just a waste of valuable time.

              • July 7, 2011 at 12:45 am

                Ok I will go take a Xanax. But what about everybody else? They don’t have that luxury!

                • July 7, 2011 at 6:52 am

                  I’ll just wait to see what the President says about this deep cuts to SS, Medicare, Medcaid thing that has people losing it. I have always recall the President saying there are minor things which can be done to fix SS, Medicare, Medicaid, but it didn’t call for anything drastic. So we shall see what’s up.

  20. July 6, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=14011883

    Afghan commander identifies 3 troop units to be drawdown this month.

  21. 110 Suzanne holland
    July 6, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    We must stop believing any and all “leaks”. Our president has always had our back and always knows what he is doing….3 dimensional chest, remember??

    • 111 desertflower
      July 6, 2011 at 11:42 pm

      🙂 🙂 See my comment above:)

    • July 6, 2011 at 11:43 pm

      Leaks could be trial balloons. Leaks could also be done to specifically rile up the left in order to show the GOP and MSM that “WH is taking heat from their base, whereas GOP will not move at all”. To leak/float SS cuts being on the table, I think they’re looking for a freakout.

      • 113 Blue
        July 7, 2011 at 12:05 am

        All this reminds me of the Health Care sausage making last year. Every day it was leaks, and misinformation, and the media know how to play that game with President Obama’s base. So, I’ll just wait, and hear for myself from my President.

        • 114 utaustinliberal
          July 7, 2011 at 12:30 am

          Thank you Blue. This is what I’ve been trying to explain, here and on twitter. Everyone expects the WH to push back on every tom, dick and harry crap reporting out there. Frankly they don’t have the time and patience for such drivel. PBO has never let us down and people should take a deep breath, calm down and think with their heads screwed on straight. This is all dumb speculation and everyone’s running around like headless chickens. Didn’t we all watch the twitter townhall today? Didn’t we all see how the msm said Healthcare was dead and voila we now have healthcare reform. Didn’t we all hear the msm say that PBO had no leverage and the govt would be shutdown and voila, the govt is still open for business and he saved Planned Parenthood, Title X programs and didn’t compromise on his principles. Time and time again, he has taken the repubs to the cleaners and shown us that he fights for the American people. So as Blue said, just wait and hear it from the horse’s mouth (PBO) before you panic from now until thy kingdom come.

          • 115 theo67
            July 7, 2011 at 12:37 am

            I’m with you. Tired of the head games from the media. I trust the President.

          • 117 Bobfr
            July 7, 2011 at 1:16 am

            Very cogently stated, utaustin.

            Fact is, President Obama knows how comprehensively he has anticipated and set the stage to undermine and expose the Republicans in the House and Senate for the avaricious vermin that they are.

            This is 6 July 2011. Not 6 July 2012 or 1 Nov 2012.

            President Obama knows the immediate and the long-term strategy he has been crafting since well before he was sworn in as President.

            Each day from now until Election Day 2012 is to be cherished because apart from the newstainers and professional whiners, left and right, this President has an agenda – the advancement of the “American Dream” for EVERY American.

            If some dude in the broadcast media actually had a clue and truly wanted to dominate the spectrum from now until Election Day and the subsequent 4 years of President Obama’s second term, they’d start programming and broadcasting the amazing story and strategy of President Obama. They’d own the market, for sure.

            Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

            • 118 Chi
              July 7, 2011 at 2:48 am

              Thank you so much Bob for your always focused, mature and cogent posts…

            • July 7, 2011 at 11:22 am

              Seriously right on that one, Bob. There are WAY more people who want to know more about this President and his amazing Administration than want to carp about him. They could have viewership that was at least three times that of the highest rated Fox pundit show.

          • 120 Betsy
            July 7, 2011 at 1:46 am

            Here here utaustinliberal! I hadn’t heard about all of this, but saw the headline on Yahoo and immediately tweeted #mediafail. It is no coincidence that there is a constant effort to undermine our President, and to get his supporters all riled up and panicky! I prefer to trust him instead. Glad I’m not alone.

  22. 123 meta
    July 6, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    After terrific success of the twitter Town Hall, the MSM just can’t help themselves. They have to change the subject.

  23. 127 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    July 7, 2011 at 3:47 am

    I believe PBO is TOO FAR ahead in his thinking and actions for this nation. Democrats, Republicans, MSM, American citizens all do not understand the totality of this man. IF we don’t catch up to who and what this man is we will lose him in 2013. He won’t get re-elected because of our IGNORANCE. AND IT WILL BE A DAMN SHAME. 😦 Obama/Biden 2012!!

  24. 128 carolyn
    July 7, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Time and again the media and other “sources” have “leaked” things that the President is going to do….and they have always been WRONG!!! These leaks are on purpose to undermine and get people upset. The problem is 24/7 cable channels that have to have something to talk about. The so-called experts just love to hear themselves talk, and make up stories all the time. Now, people who have NO knowledge have joined in on Twitter, and the virus spreads. Ignore these false alarms. Has he EVER said what the so-called experts predicted before he spoke or before he met and negotiated? NO! Frankly, I think many, most of these leaks come from Rove’s Republican operatives disguising themselves. Do any of these leaks come from Plouffe, or Carney, or Daley, or Axelrod? NO! Then don’t believe them. Low grade Senatorial or Congressional aides have no clout and little knowledge, and these are probably sources. Spewing this makes them feel important.

  25. 129 Claire
    July 7, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Is anyone having problems viewing the video here? I know it is not just this site, I am having a problem viewing youtube video (unless I add http(s) to the url). But, for me all of the video here is a black screen with no controls. I have read that others are having problems… I think it’s a google prob. Anyway, just curious to know if anyone else is experiencing the same problem.


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