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11

‘the republican plan’

Am I just being harsh, or should these ads be waaaaaaaaaaaaay better and harder hitting?


85 Responses to “‘the republican plan’”


  1. 1 Hachikō
    June 28, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Chip, the first time I read your editorial, I read, “….these ads [ARE] waaaaaaaaay better and harder hitting.” Then I watched the ad, and was gonna comment that I disagreed. Glad I read that comment again. Heehee! RIF!

  2. 2 Kasai
    June 28, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Wow…If you waiting for Rachel to apologize for lying….I guess she’s even more stubborn, she finally decided to tweet the following.

    Pres Obama doesn’t support same-sex marriage. It’s OK to be mad at me for saying it, but it’s still true: http://t.co/GUI3Uxy

    • 3 meta
      June 28, 2011 at 8:54 pm

      I just replied:

      Ax to grind much? Your link is from July 15, 2009. That is some weak sauce right there. Catch up.

    • 4 lisalovesobama
      June 28, 2011 at 8:55 pm

      I knew that heifer would double-down. It’s okay, karma is a bitch but she always gets her man.

      • 5 meta
        June 28, 2011 at 8:57 pm

        If she’s not willing to see how people evolve and change, then her cause is doomed. Not just about PBO but about the country.

        • 6 Bobfr
          June 28, 2011 at 9:02 pm

          … and her life, sadly … and I though she believed in ‘evolution’ …. hmmmm …. maybe just the ‘evolution’ of the scale of her paycheck …. hmmmm ….

          • 7 meta
            June 28, 2011 at 9:10 pm

            There is rarely anything more beautiful in life than understanding. We all have our own personal causes and when someone at last truly understands what we are fighting for and joins us, it’s a really wonderful thing. Scorn doesn’t work, ever.

    • 8 Bobfr
      June 28, 2011 at 8:57 pm

      So, she opts for another lie. I guess that makes her a chronic LIAR. Well, done, Ms Maddow. You are now fully disclosed.

      For all those of you who tweet – feel free to quote me πŸ™‚

      Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • 9 Hachikō
      June 28, 2011 at 9:08 pm

      She lied about something else Obama did/didn’t do recently. Anyone remember what it was? I remember we were all upset at her for doing it.

  3. June 28, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    To those like Maddow if you don’t jump up and down about their issues. they trash you for not seeing their way.

  4. 12 prettyfoot58
    June 28, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    It is time to move on from the Maddow comments….we agree where we can and where we don’t we respect the difference….

  5. 15 meta
    June 28, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    I could SO do a better voiceover than that. I agree Chips, this ad needs to be more hardhitting.

    • 16 Kasai
      June 28, 2011 at 9:08 pm

      I agree Meta……….the Rep. ad …have PBO’s own words (sound bites) I wished they used some of the comment made by the Reps, like how they campaigned on jobs??? Or like making PBO a one term Pres…Maybe they are working on it.
      JMHO

    • June 28, 2011 at 9:59 pm

      I actually like the voice. Its much better than previous ones. My preference is this woman – the woman who does the show Snapped:

  6. 18 cat48
    June 28, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    After calling the president everything but an illegal immigrant, it does seem not tough enough. This is the DNC though & pundits always flip out everytime a Dem runs a rough ad so maybe they’re just softening the media up. Bill Burton, Priorities USA, is the PAC & those will probably be kinda rough & they’ll whine to the WH about it during press conferences.

    Mayor Bloomberg has a rough ad he & the gun control people are going to run. It’s got Adam Gadan in it. The American who joined Al Qaeda so all the NRA folks in Congress will freak out! They won’t close the damn loophole that let’s terrorists buy guns even if their on the Terrorist Watch List! That’s ridiculous! Adam’s talking in a Video, letting them know they can buy a gun at a gunshow in America with no ID. YIKES!! That ad’s going to leave a mark!

  7. 19 Kasai
    June 28, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    I just saw the ad…very powerful………

  8. 20 Bobfr
    June 28, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    You so have the PBWL (‘professional bully, whimpering left’) nailed, Ms Chipsticks …. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay nailed!! πŸ˜€

    I haven’t TM’d PBWL yet so feel free, anyone πŸ˜‰

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • June 28, 2011 at 9:14 pm

      ‘PMWL’

      Love it!!!!! πŸ˜†

      Seriously Bob, any of us could do better than this ad …. which gives me an idea: could we all try to come up with ideas for 30 second ads and post them on YouTube?

      Hmm, I need to sleep on this. You’re a wordsmith, throw me any ideas you have!

      See ya tomorrow.

      • 22 meta
        June 28, 2011 at 9:23 pm

        I volunteer to HELP. I swear I could do better voiceover. I’ve even had some training and I’m sick of male voices on all of these sad ads.

        • 23 africa
          June 28, 2011 at 9:26 pm

          Splendid. I’ve been hoping for a while that we would do something like this. Given the fact that Chips already has the oomph for making videos go viral. Great idea.

      • 24 Bobfr
        June 28, 2011 at 9:37 pm

        Keep it simple!

        The Republicans have graciously made that quite easy for every Democratic candidate in 2012.

        Feel free to use any of the following – no attribution required (and …. well … this is Tuesday night, not Saturday, so I suppose I’m safe πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ )

        Simply, every Democratic Party Leader and any of them who happen to be candidates in 2012 must be certain that “the official Republican plan is to destroy Medicare” are 8 words every American hears 1000s of times between now and Nov 2012.

        Beyond that the following simple mantra is a gift given to every Democratic candidate by the Republican Party since Nov, 2010, to wit:

        The Republicans promised jobs in 2010:

        – instead they insisted on tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations

        – instead they attacked collective bargaining

        – instead they attacked education

        – instead they attacked unemployment insurance

        – instead they attacked women and girls

        – instead they brought the Nation to the brink (or maybe went all in) of default on its debt

        – instead they tried to KILL DADT

        – instead they voted for GLOBAL WAR

        – instead _________________________ (they keep on giving so we just keep on filing in the blanks)

        Score card:

        Republican jobs created – ZERO

        Republican pursuit of the destruction of America – ZERO – because no matter how hard the Republicans have tried (and continue trying) the Democrats (Particularly President Obama) stopped them.

        Don’t muddle; don’t confuse – we have been given a gift by the Republicans voting (in House and Senate) to kill Medicare – make those 8 words above the overwhelming thought that passes through the heads of young and old alike.

        Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

        • 25 lisalovesobama
          June 28, 2011 at 9:54 pm

          Republicans swept into office screaming about jobs……… 6 months later, where are the jobs? Call and ask your congressman about the your jobs

          Republicans have voted to kill medicare, to kill education and to kill infrastructure and transportation. Ask the republicans what they plan to kill next.

          Republicans have cut taxes for the rich, given welfare to the oil companies and declared open season on the elderly…… They Republican party: what have they done for you lately?

          Republicans work twice a month for a salary of $100,000. You scratch, save and work 5-7 days a week for minimal payment. The Republican Party: Looking out for your greater good as they make money from your hard work.

        • 30 desertflower
          June 28, 2011 at 10:26 pm

          Can you please send that prepackaged message to the powers that be! Perfect.Thanks, Bob…once again, someone else doing the job for them….that was easy!

          • 31 Bobfr
            June 29, 2011 at 1:40 am

            desertflower – I’ve sent the above to OFA, directly to the White House and to (Speaker) Minority Leader Pelosi.

            Whether they pay attention or not, is not the issue. What matters is that all of you spread it to all you know and to every organization or Democratic Leader/Candidate you wish to inform.

            I truly mean ‘no pride of authorship’ – just use it and don’t bother with attribution.

            As I follow the Libyan freedom fighters, I’ve grown to realize that while they are in their 4x4s with various weapons, ever narrowing the circle on Tripoli, they represent what all of us must accomplish between now and Election Day 2012. We either save our democracy or we will most certainly lose it to the Koch Brothers, AEI, the Neocons, and the stupid people they use to wreck our Republic (i.e., all those already declared as candidates for the Republican (aka tea party) nomination.

            Yes.We.Can (MUST). … DO.More.Together!

        • June 28, 2011 at 10:43 pm

          Michele Bachmann also want to do away with minimage wages

  9. 36 dotster
    June 28, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Here’s something I didn’t know (among a couple of other things I don’t know πŸ™‚ )—–but anyhoo—–I saw that “Doro” Bush Koch was hosting a fundraiser for Romney. That’s W’s sister. But what I was interested in was the Koch part of her name. And yes, after a little checking, he is part of Koch Industries and the infamous Koch Bros. Small world, eh?

  10. 38 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    June 28, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    YOU’RE RIGHT ON….WE NEED MORE UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPALAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

    • 40 askew
      June 29, 2011 at 12:32 am

      Man, I hope they do something. We’ve had a Senate majority for 3+ years and still most of Obama’s nominations are being held up or withdrawn. And since the Senate is adjourning this weekend, no recess appointments. This is my biggest disappointment with Reid. He needs to strong arm these nominations through.

  11. 41 Doris
    June 28, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    If you missed on the previous thread, here is a repost.

    14th Amendment: Democratic Senators See Debt Ceiling As Unconstitutional

    WASHINGTON β€” Growing increasingly pessimistic about the prospects for a deal that would raise the debt ceiling, Democratic senators are revisiting a solution to the crisis that rests on a simple proposition: The debt ceiling itself is unconstitutional.

    β€œThe validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law… shall not be questioned,” reads the 14th Amendment.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/28/14th-amendment-debt-ceiling-unconstitutional-democrats_n_886442.html

    • 42 Bobfr
      June 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm

      About time they read the Constitution!! You betcha, Constitutional Scholar and President of the USA, has πŸ™‚

      Thank you Doris!

      Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

      • 43 Doris
        June 28, 2011 at 9:16 pm

        He’s a smart man and has a great team working around him. My hat’s off to Patty Murray and Chris Coons too. Go DEMS!

        • 44 mb32
          June 28, 2011 at 11:22 pm

          I found an article link on the 14th amendment Wickipedia entry where an economist advised the president that this option was available…on April 29!…wonder if PBO stuck that in his back pocket knowing the ‘pubs would over play their hand and he would be able to do this at the last minute if they refused? Especially now since the CBO said they could lower debt by doing nothing and letting Bush tax cuts expire. I hope he smacks them straight in the face -left and right – with the constitution tomorrow! Especially since the left is still convinced he’s going to cave. Of course, the press conference could be about something else entirely πŸ˜€

          • 45 lisalovesobama
            June 28, 2011 at 11:58 pm

            grrrrr!!! You go mb!

            • 46 mb32
              June 29, 2011 at 6:46 am

              πŸ˜€ I hope the president does it but if doesn’t I trust whatever plan he has in mind – his record is good with me. Folks still complain about the budget deal earlier this year without acknowledging that Boehner got rolled…the National Journal pointed out that the cuts were budget tricks and were in the millions not billions like the PL keeps saying…

  12. 47 Bobfr
    June 28, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    “Newstainer” Urban Dictionary Status Report (though I do post this with a bit of trepidation πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ )

    Thanks for your definition of Newstainer!

    Editors reviewed your entry and have decided to publish it on urbandictionary.com.

    It should appear on this page in the next few days:
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    Urban Dictionary

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

  13. 59 halo
    June 28, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    I actually think the ad isn’t that bad. It would be better if there was a person to run against since those are generally more effective, but we don’t know who that will be yet.

    • June 28, 2011 at 9:18 pm

      That’s a fair point Halo, until the GOP picks its nutjob for 2012 it’s impossible to target anyone in particular. I still think, though, that these ads should really be hammering Paul Ryan (and all the candidates who support his revolting plan) and the GOP in general for obstructing every effort to get the country back on its feet. There’s endless material out there, endless soundbites from GOP candidates that could really show the public what the party is all about.

      • 61 meta
        June 28, 2011 at 9:29 pm

        I agree. While I take your point, halo, I think it’s a big mistake to let the narrative drift until there is a candidate. There is PLENTY of evidence about their values and where they are taking this election. It would be to our benefit to form the narrative NOW.

      • 62 lisalovesobama
        June 28, 2011 at 9:30 pm

        i still like your idea Ms.Chips of creating our own ads on youtube. I think any help to PBO would be great. we’ve all seen the power of youtube based on all the kiddie vids you’ve posted. its a great idea and it would be useful to capitalize on it.

        • 63 Kasai
          June 28, 2011 at 10:12 pm

          Spot on Lisa………….Great Idea:-)
          Having Million viewers w/out paying millions for tv ads, now that would just Awesome!!!!

      • 64 bjw2
        June 28, 2011 at 9:37 pm

        Good eve my good people…….Hey Chipsticks I was just over visiting the Obamadiary You tube site and you know what video I would love to see put on there is the trip to IIndia. That one always makes me tear up.

      • 68 Uche
        June 29, 2011 at 8:10 am

        Totally concur Chips….and majority of Americans are on to their game-plan. NY 26 should be the reason why we can’t drop using Ryan’s plan as a political bludgeon from now until Nov. elections.

  14. June 28, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Dem Party can’t really attack a private citizen so they can’t go after Rove or Koch. They need the 3rd party groups to do that – Burton and co should make the Koch Bros infamous to the point that anything connected to their name politically is crud.

    Target Koch and Rove. Right now they can take swings without fear of getting hit back.

  15. 73 Suzanne
    June 28, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    I have to say that I like the ad a lot. There is way too much anger and violence in the media for me. This hits at exactly the problems the GOP is causing the middle class and why in a very short period of time. It’s simple enough that anyone can understand — I feel like it will be especially effective with seniors.

    They probably have a way to tell the effectiveness of ads and may have different ones lined up, but I must say I really like this one.

    • June 28, 2011 at 11:20 pm

      I’m with you, Suzanne. That’s a very good ad. I like the voice-over and it conforms with how such ads are done. And it totally eviscerates the Obama attack ads. Smart that they waited until the attack ads ran to put this up. Seriously, very emotionally provocative. Does it his lefty high-points? No. Those don’t resonate with people. They kept it simple and to the point, and didn’t miss any of the key messages. They got it all done in 30 seconds. Great and I’m thrilled that they’re still emphasizing the cut medicare to fund tax cuts to the rich and big oil. The GOP stepped in it and the DNC is not letting it slide. Happy me.

  16. 75 Doris
    June 28, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Obama to hold press conference Wednesday
    (AFP) – 1 hour ago

    WASHINGTON β€” President Barack Obama will hold a press conference Wednesday amid a dramatic showdown between his administration and Congress to avoid a US debt default, his office said.

    It will be held at 11:30 am (1530 GMT) in the building’s ceremonial East Room, the White House said in the president’s daily schedule.

    Obama met the top Democrat in the Senate and his minority Republican counterpart on Monday, seeking to unpick a deadlock over his call on lawmakers to lift the $14.29 trillion debt ceiling by an August 2 deadline.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gZ9342-kSOzAkx_rJE0qidATcjjw?docId=CNG.b543d6b84be023e079ab0236d9bba908.661

  17. June 28, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Could be harder but I know the budget is limited. I’m just glad someone is countering Karl Rove. If I had the funds I’d produce some commercials to scare the sh*t out of voters. The truth is very scary.

  18. June 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    I like the ad, not to extreme, people will pay attention if it not too extreme. harsh ad is for the PL people, let them put up their on ad.

  19. 80 Keith in C-bus, Ohio
    June 28, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    I like the ad. I see nothing wrong with it. No it isn’t vicious per se, but it makes great points about what the Rethugs are doing to our economy and the middle class. Seniors will be able to grasp its context. Good enough for me as a starter to the campaigns.

  20. June 29, 2011 at 12:00 am

    I actually like this ad.

    Good introductory ad since we are still 18 months from the election. At this early point, calm, quick, and easy to understand is the way to go. It’s nice to end with a shot of all the declared candidates (minus Huntsman) together because the message is really that no matter who the nominee is, he/she would be wrong for the middle class.

    Anything sharper or more combative could lead to early voter fatigue. The longer we go without the heavy duty attack ads, the better in my book.

  21. 82 isonprize
    June 29, 2011 at 12:20 am

    I actually LIKE this ad. Remember, there is a LONG time between now and November 2012. A LLLLllllllooooooooooooooggggggGGGGGGG way away. If they start hollerin’ now, where will they take it when they need to holler, like when something really stupid happens. And you know something really stupid is going to happen.

  22. 83 sjterrid
    June 29, 2011 at 2:30 am

    I liked the Ad too. It pointed out what the Republicans are going to do if they win. It is based on fact and doesn’t attack any specific person, but the republicans really have no plan to fix the economy that doesn’t hurt the middle class.

  23. 84 Obaman
    June 29, 2011 at 3:28 am

    Ok. So DNC got some balls this time around huh? Good

  24. June 29, 2011 at 7:56 am

    When George S. asked her about the minimum wage and getting rid of it Bachmann didnot deny that is what she want to do. Right now how much is the minimum wage? These Republicans really don’t like poor or the middle class.


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