“huntsman’s base: the press”

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DFP: Michigan native Mitt Romney and U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann are neck and neck in a new poll of likely participants in Iowa’s Republican presidential caucuses.

Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, claims 23%, and Bachmann, a tea partier from Minnesota, has 22%. Neither has done heavy lifting in Iowa. Retired pizza CEO Herman Cain of Georgia is in third, with 10%.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is tied in fourth place at 7% with Texas U.S. Rep. Ron Paul. Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty is at 6%; former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania is at 4%, and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman is at 2%….


Seattle PI: From afar, it’s easy to get swept up by the hype: Jon Huntsman is accomplished, handsome, smart, and his civility message has appeal beyond the meat-eaters who dominate this early phase of the Republican presidential campaign.

This is the reason his small base, largely in the media – the select group of pundits like Mark Halperin and the “Morning Joe” stars, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski – have been unabashed in their Huntsman swooning. We have our share of swooners at POLITICO, too.

….But there is a problem: Up close, Huntsman’s challenges …. are unmistakable – and, by all measures of modern Republican politics, likely insurmountable.

…There’s a reason he barely has a pulse in the polls. He speaks so softly that even his aides sometimes have trouble hearing him at events. He is making civility a cornerstone of his campaign, at a time when Republican voters are ravenous for red-meat conservative policies, and an epochal showdown with Obama.

…There were warning signs throughout, starting with the interview, which Huntsman conducted on a sweltering patio because he said air conditioning gives him bronchitis. It was one of several moments when we started to wonder about Huntsman’s fitness for the rigors of a campaign that will go at least seven months and, for the nominee, 15 months. New York Times reporter Jim Rutenberg, one of only three reporters traveling with Huntsman on the second formal day of his campaign, wrote that the candidate “has already complained about being tired.”

….”I just don’t know how this works,” the former official said. “It’s a great idea, and lovely and all that: He’s actually intelligent, and has actually been outside the United States. He speaks Chinese. He’s handsome. What’s not to like? But how do you make it through this primary? It’s a complete media creation so far.”

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147 Responses to ““huntsman’s base: the press””

  1. 1 Marlz
    June 26, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Good morning TOD family. Noticed you all had fun last evening!

  2. June 26, 2011 at 10:07 am


    S&P says investors could lose 100 billion if the US defaults in its debt. Does Ryan and company care about that?

    • 3 Fred
      June 26, 2011 at 10:12 am

      no Jovie they don’t and won’t unless their masters get more tax cuts

    • 4 halo
      June 26, 2011 at 10:18 am

      No. As long as Barack Obama is blamed for it, they’re okay.

    • June 26, 2011 at 10:26 am

      Jovie, heck no the Tea-Republicans don’t care one bit. The Republicans are sabotaging this economy in hopes of defeating President Obama, any damage they can do to the economy they are only to willing to do that, hoping that the people will turn back to them. But despite it all I am praying people will use some common sense if they have any and realize those idiots are the one who put us in this mess in the first place. And what kind of answers have they offer us to make things better? Do they want to go back to give give give to the rich, and hope it will trickle down to the rest of us. We’ve tried that already.

      • June 26, 2011 at 10:34 am

        As for Huntsman goes, let him have his 15 minutes of shame. When it come time to get in the ring with our President we shall see what he or whoever it is have. We know how those lying bastards call the media is, one minute they love you, next second they are dragging your name through the mud.

    • 8 Anonymous
      June 26, 2011 at 1:16 pm

      This article says it all. Wall Street will make GOP raise the debt ceiling.

  3. June 26, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Morning, all. My favorite reason from the media on why Huntsman is a viable candidate: “He speaks Mandarin!”

  4. 17 dotster
    June 26, 2011 at 10:18 am

    If that ain’t the truth—–the love affair between Huntsman and the press. The gushing is embarrassing. And so is their twisting themselves into knots as they try to make him appealing. Never mind this, never mind that, he speaks Mandarin! and rides a motorcycle!!!

    • 18 africa
      June 26, 2011 at 10:41 am

      This is exactly why the country is messed up. They are so impressed with the frivilous. Mr. 2 percent, meh.

    • 19 Bill
      June 26, 2011 at 11:05 am

      Don’t forget that he also likes to eat “street food”.

      • 20 dotster
        June 26, 2011 at 11:17 am

        Now that’s funny. I haven’t heard that one, but that tidbit certainly makes him prime presidential material. Remember when Obama was labeled a snob for daring to say the word “arugula” and ordering orange juice in a diner? Good times!

        • June 26, 2011 at 11:21 am

          And don’t forget the Prez also like spicy mustard and no ketchup on his burgers.

          You know, I started to eat arugula because of the Prez. He and Michelle so inspire good habits.

          • 22 isonprize
            June 26, 2011 at 12:27 pm

            They slammed him in Philadelphia for putting provolone cheese on a hoagie. What they didn’t know was plenty of “real Philadelphians” eat provolone cheese on our hoagies. To me, it showed that somebody did their “advance” work very well.

            The sandwich has ‘Italian roots’ Why wouldn’t it have Italian cheese. The media can really be a#$%^holes.

            • 23 Sue in Minnesota
              June 26, 2011 at 12:42 pm

              What ever happened to freedom of choice.? What is more ridiculous the assclowns that call themselves MSM, or the American sops that soak up their spewage.

            • 24 AJ
              June 26, 2011 at 3:56 pm

              I lived in Philly for more than a dozen years; always had provelone on my cheesesteaks. Plenty of “real” Philadelphians did. Sheesh. Mountain, meet molehill.

          • 25 COS
            June 26, 2011 at 1:33 pm

            The Prez also likes hot sauce in his gumbo. 🙂

        • 26 Sue in Minnesota
          June 26, 2011 at 12:54 pm

          What ever happened to freedom of choice? Oh the hypocrisy of the food police, dictating what President Obama should or shouldn’t eat, yet the apoplexy over Michelle Obama’s promotion of healthy food choices and physical activity. The schizophrenia is mind bending.

          What is more ridiculous, the assclowns that call themselves MSM, or the American sops that soak up , and then parrot these carnival barkers?

      • 28 Debz
        June 26, 2011 at 11:25 am

        OH, does he eat food off of the street. You would think with his money he could afford a restauant. LOL

        • 29 COS
          June 26, 2011 at 1:39 pm

          PBO is not allowed to eat food off the street for security reasons. I am sure he would if he could Mika and Joe. The comment about Huntsman complaining that he was tired is comical. PBO made running for president look easy, and they think that you can just wave a magic wand and you are in the White House. Can’t beleive he is complaining already. I will never forget watching PBO campaigning in the rain and cold in PA while MCCain and Palin cancelled their event. This will be interesting to watch.

          • 30 Debz
            June 26, 2011 at 2:17 pm

            I was referring to Huntsman eating food off the street. “he eats street food” whatever that means.

            • 31 Bill
              June 26, 2011 at 3:29 pm

              “Street food” is from vendors selling food from carts on sidewalks. Huntsman has an ad where he is saying he prefers “sreet food” to restaurants.

              • 32 dotster
                June 26, 2011 at 4:11 pm

                Well then, that billionaire is just like any regular Joe, right? That’s proof, and hope it helps you forget about the billionaire/his co. shipping jobs overseas thingy.

  5. 33 Karen Sr.
    June 26, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Chris Christie on MTP defending his tirade against teacher who asked why he sent his kids to private schools and then cut spending on public schools in NJ.

    Answer: He’s lovable, but direct, but she was direct, too. So, if you live in NJ don’t ask direct questions of the governor unless you’re prepared for his tirade when he doesn’t have a intelligible answer. Attack, attack, attack. Thanks, Nixon. They learned their lessons well.

    • June 26, 2011 at 10:50 am

      The media is trying to help Christie do damage control. He and they know that ugly tirade against a constituent has turned a lot of folks off. That plus his wasting taxpayer dollars on helicopters to see his son play baseball. His poll numbers are plummeting and I bet he could never be re-elected. So the media keeps trying to prop this horrible bully up.

      NJ, you made a huge mistake — pun intended.

      • 35 africa
        June 26, 2011 at 10:57 am

        Women, especially are peeved at him for his bulldog attitude. On The View the other day, he got clobbered by all the women, including Elizabeth Hasselback, and the audience were right there with them.

        He needs to apologize but his over-inflated ego won’t like him. There is nothing to like about this guy. He was rude and disprespected to that woman. I am surprised his wife has not told home to put a sock in it.

    • 36 GGail
      June 26, 2011 at 11:00 am

      He’s a bully Governor 😦 President Obama would never address a constituent like that. Shame on Christie. Even the Daley’s who ran Chicago would have never been overheard speaking like that! Oh those poor people in the state of New Jersey. That’s a lesson to be very very careful to learn as much about a person that you are voting into office. Scary! Would you want him in the White House?

      • 37 dotster
        June 26, 2011 at 11:23 am

        In addition to being a bully, I would question the judgment of any politician who responds to any question by a constituent with “Mind your own business.” Decency and common sense are missing which should set off alarm bells all over the place.

        • June 26, 2011 at 11:32 am

          Not only that, these folks are paying him that salary that allows him to send his kids to that private school. Her question was perfectly reasonable. She didn’t ask him anything personal. I just hope the people of NU are taking notes.

        • 39 theo67
          June 26, 2011 at 2:13 pm

          Indeed – don’t they understand what “public servant” means? They serve the public. President Obama and Mrs. Obama were asked the same question when they chose private school for their kids in DC, and they were able to answer the question tactfully, without coming off as belligerent. The fact is, if you can afford to send your child to a public school, then why wouldn’t you.

          The problem lies in the fact that Republicans want public school children to get a worse education than their most advantaged private school counterparts. Democrats are working to raise the standards at public schools, so all kids can compete, regardless of circumstances. That’s the real shame in Christie’s answer – he is so busy cutting off social funding to programs and schools, and he could care less of the consequences.

          • 40 Debz
            June 26, 2011 at 2:48 pm

            Christie never even answered the question, he was too busy being a bully. I don’t believe the woman cared so much that he sends his kids to a private, it is that he is gutting the public school system, he never answered her. He is such a jerk he probably didn’t even care what she was actually asking.

            • 41 Anonymous
              June 26, 2011 at 3:47 pm

              Debz, you are right on target. That was precisely her question. She didn’t care about him sending his kids to private school. She was saying that he wanted his kids to get the best education possible and so do those parents who can’t afford private school. So why wouldn’t he as governor try to help those kids who have to go to public school?

              He knew what she was asking but he has no answer for what he is doing to education and to public workers except that it’s the republican strategy of getting rid of the middle class and trying to permanently take power away from the people.

              He couldn’t very well answer that honestly, so he resorts to being rude and unprofessional. I posted a tweet in answer to a comment David Gregory made. I asked if he thought Christie would appreciate someone speaking to his wife that way.

              I just hope the voters of NJ are really paying attention. Do they have a recall statute in that state, I wonder?

  6. 42 Tulips
    June 26, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Dont feed the beast yall. Stop watching that crap. why give them ratings. it will be on the internet.

    • 43 Audrey
      June 26, 2011 at 8:40 pm

      Exactly Tulips! We must not feed into their well-orchestrated reel them in campaigns which includes telling lies about and insulting PBO! The media will do and say anything for ratings and a reaction good or bad!

      Meanwhile, folks like Huntsman are in for the nastiest surprises ever! Campaigning is just the tip of the iceberg and is not even half as tough as actually governing a very diverse country – quite unlike the very monlithic, group think state of Utah!

      The problem is President Obama has made consistent and non-stop hard work with focus, boundless energy and dignity look so easy and effortless!

      I’ve always said that Americans will only come to fully appreciate the greatness that is President Barack Obama in time!

  7. 44 utaustinliberal
    June 26, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Huntsman’s base really and true is the press. I was watching some early morning sunday talk shows and there was a poll taken in Iowa by the Des Moines Register. This is one of the credible official polls for Iowans and Romney garnered 23% of the votes, while Michele Bachmann came in second with 22% of the votes. Jon Huntsman was a laughable last with 2% of the votes. Even New Hampshire polls show him garnering abysmal numbers. Real voters don’t know who he is, his roll out campaign ads were dumb to say the least and he’s quite vapid and boring when one listens to him speak. The only people peddling and pushing the meme that he’s the GOP’s answer to President Obama is the msm. They try to portray him as a moderate. Yeah right. Just because he’s slightly to the left of republicans in his support of gay civil unions doesn’t mean he’s moderate. It means he has a little bit of sense to see the issue in a slightly different manner than his colleagues. According to an article written by Jonathan Capehart of the Washington Post, whenever Huntsman is asked about gay rights, civil unions and marriage, he refuses to call it by it’s proper term – gay marriage – he instead refers to it as subordinate marriage. Really? That’s the voice of a moderate? Huntsman commended President Obama for health care reform, yet when it leaked to the msm he backtracked and said he was only commending the President on working with republicans in a bi-partisan manner. When Huntsman was aked why he accepted the position of Ambassador to China, he said he did so because other republicans like Transportation Secretary Ray La Hood were doing so too. When asked about his Mormon faith, he backtracked and refused to give a definitive yes or no answer in response to the question: “Are you still a practicing Mormon?” When he was Governor of Utah, Huntsman made a video along with then Governor of Minnesota Tim Pawlenty that HEAVILY supported cap and trade legislation. Fastforward a couple of years and they’re both backtracking on one of their fundamental/core principles. Huntsman was a high school dropout who never obtained a high school diploma/ GED but managed to enroll into a Utah University because of his family connections and wealth. He was allowed entry into college through some BS “equivalency program.” Huntsman touts himself as the answer to American exceptionalism yet his company was conducting business with Tehran in Iran. Iran as we know is building uranium enriched nuclear weapons and as neighbors to Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan, they can supply the Taliban and Al Queda with weapons. Yet he conducted business with them until 2010 when there were ruminations and rumblings of his Presidential run; his company did a complete 180 and ceased all business dealings with Iran. He touts himself as the White Knight to the stumbling but slowly recovering economy, yet his company has shipped millions of jobs and job initiatives overseas to India and China where he can exploit a low wage industry. When Huntsman accepted the position of Ambassador to China, his company’s profits skyrocketed to about 59%. He exploited his ambassadorship to line the family coffers. This is who the Press touts as moderate. If this is moderate, I wonder how one tells the difference between what passes for a moderate and a batshit crazy right winger in the GOP; because from where I’m standing, they are one and the same.

    • 45 GGail
      June 26, 2011 at 12:13 pm

      UT, you slay me! You can go from “vapid” to “batshit crazy” so eloquently 🙂

    • 46 desertflower
      June 26, 2011 at 12:28 pm

      I see he’s heavy on the “principles” huh? NOT! This guy will be gone in short order…

    • 47 lisalovesobama
      June 26, 2011 at 1:53 pm

      WOW. Are you sure law or government really isn’t your calling Quickdraw? We could really use your smarts and your smart mouth in politics. 😆 The research and knowledge that went into your response was breath taking. If you decide to run for anything, I’d literally run to Texas just to vote for you 😉

    • 48 theo67
      June 26, 2011 at 2:18 pm

      This is an excellent and thorough summary! Please send this on to the media – they clearly haven’t done any research in between all their fawning. You captured all his known weaknesses brilliantly!

      The fact that these Republican “candidates” are flip-flopping so frequently just goes to show that they have no intention of being President of all Americans – only the ones who will fill their donation coffers.

  8. June 26, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Maureen dowd is a * #*! Her newest article- Obama come out of the closet!

    So, what is she saying there?

    • 51 africa
      June 26, 2011 at 10:43 am

      Looks like someone needs to hear from us. That woman is ugly in more ways than one.

    • June 26, 2011 at 10:48 am

      Who gives a dam what that piece of trash Dowd is saying?

    • 55 utaustinliberal
      June 26, 2011 at 10:50 am

      Maureen Dowd is a psychotic bitch. I firmly believe she has mental problems and is a classic case of a person going Hamsher. Everything is Obama’s fault and now an article entitled Obama come out of the closet? Does she think if President Obama was gay he would be ashamed to admit it? She’s such a shoddy journalist and creature of the most primitive order. Simply put she’s: a douchebag, scumbag, gasbag, hag, nincompoop, idiot, stupid, narcissitic jerk, blowhard, jerkface, asshole, assface, whiny ass titty baby, fucktard, amoeba, scuzzball, slimeball, freak of nature, animal, shithead, fuckface, journalism school reject, hateful, spiteful, mean, vindictive, vengeful, primodial ass-hat.

      • 56 hopefruit2
        June 26, 2011 at 11:53 am

        Clark on Old Orange is having a hissy fit, using Dowd’s article to post another Obama bashing diary. I commented to him that he has a very unhealthy, unproductive, and hateful obsession with this President, which is not helping him or the cause that he purports to represent. He is supposedly from NY, so you would think that he would be out there celebrating on a lovely Sunday after the passage of a victorious bill, right? Instead he’s scouring the web for nasty anti-Obama drivel to validate his hateful dispostion towards the President.

        • 57 Anonymous
          June 26, 2011 at 12:45 pm

          I saw Clark’s diary too. hopefruit. As per usual, it’s on the wreck list, with the same group of asshats commenting. As a gay, I used to try to share my point of view….until they started with the name calling. The last one was “milquetoast”. These folks really know how to celebrate,er, I mean ruin a party. I think I’ll go insane the next time I read “Dan Choi is a hero”.

          • 58 Fred
            June 26, 2011 at 1:35 pm

            no need to post as “anonymous” here on this site stranger.We welcome EVERYONE as long as folks are respectful and don’t use racist;sexist;xenophobic and homophobic language on this site 😀

      • 59 Bill
        June 26, 2011 at 12:24 pm

        For some reason Dowd’s big concern now is allowing women in Saudi Arabia.to drive.

      • 61 desertflower
        June 26, 2011 at 12:29 pm

        Don’t you just long for Molly Irvins about now? She could have a FIELD DAY with all this happy horseshit.

      • 62 lisalovesobama
        June 26, 2011 at 2:02 pm

        …. asswipe, turdfaced, bigheaded, nasty, pain in the ass, needle necked, ugly assed, two faced, two timing, dog breath, coma inducing, man repelling, matronly, fugly, horses ass, couldn’t tell the difference between her butt-hole and a hole in the ground, manipulative, racist, down low bitch.
        ps- I could tell you weren’t done yet UT 😉

    • 65 Fred
      June 26, 2011 at 11:13 am

      she has been trying to “effeminate” (with all due respect to gays and lesbians here as I mean NO disrespect at all) for years now.

      From calling the President “Obambi” and so forth;she is trying to get a rise out of him (that’s if he’s even aware of her as he’s way too busy) and put him down.

      The President is calm and well-mannered and has refused to give way to the stereotype of black men having huge packages as a way to prove that they are real man.

      • 66 africa
        June 26, 2011 at 11:21 am

        The more she’s ignored, the uglier she gets. As far as PBO is concerned, she is just a speck in the universe.

        A friend of mind just called me and said “MODO is the one who needs to go back into closet because no one wants to see her curly face.” She’s obsessed with PBO. She needs to get a life.

      • 74 theo67
        June 26, 2011 at 2:21 pm

        The President knows exactly who he is, so these infantile tactics from O’Dowd won’t faze him. The fact is – he really does have more important things to do.

        • 75 HZ
          June 26, 2011 at 7:26 pm

          Theo67, you are so correct in your point. We are so blessed to know that we have a President who really knows who he is, and for goodness sake does not have to have this person tell him who he is. Also, how quickly the likes of this person has already forgot that the President told them (parapharasing now) stop the foolish circus stuff, “I have more better things to do, we have better things to do.” And thank the heavens around us, he is doing them each and everyday. I know for me, I am sticking with the man who knows who he is, shows who he is daily, and loves the people who know who he is, Mich, Sasha, Malia, grandma Robinson, Maya, and BO with ALL of his O Families all around the country. Now take that one Ms. Maureen Dowd. Go take a nap. We are awake, and we are working to re-elect our President. And we will get him re-elected.

      • 76 Sue in Minnesota
        June 26, 2011 at 6:23 pm

        Someone should send her the 3 Chics Politico Obama Swagger video–see how long it takes her to turn into a hot and bothered pathetic mess.

        She really is an unattractive person, no matter what she might look like. Ugly is as ugly does.

    • 82 Sue in Minnesota
      June 26, 2011 at 1:34 pm

      Wow, wonder what her response would be if the tables were turned and she was accused of being “closeted”, not that i would consider going there. What a piece of work……..everyday my eyes are opened wider to the “nastiness” that is elevated in our culture. IMO, it severly challenges the bought and sold notion of “American Exceptionalism.” God help us to help ourselves.

  9. 83 GGail
    June 26, 2011 at 10:43 am

    It’s waaay too early in the race to care about “who’s on first”. Just give me the low-down on them and I’ll keep spreading the news, while we build our GrassRoots re-election efforts for our wonderful, compassionate, intelligent President Obama. And thanks Chipsticks – we had a great time last night and thanks Bobfr for being a good sport! 🙂

  10. June 26, 2011 at 10:45 am

    The Republicans are underestimating what people think of these Governors like Cristie, Scott Walker, Rick Scott, the Governor of Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, all those Republicans Governors who are stabbing the poor and middle class in the back. And we can’t let anyone forget what the Republicans want to do with Medicare.

    • June 26, 2011 at 10:49 am

      They are also making a mistake with the debt ceiling vote!

    • 86 desertflower
      June 26, 2011 at 12:35 pm

      You are so right,anniebella…over at WashingtonMonthly, Steve has piece about FL and the fact that Scott is SO unpopular there that even Republicans are turned off and considering NOT VOTING FOR ANY REPUBLICAN in 2012!!! Go see…good read. The dirty little truth that the media won’t talk about:) I would bet my last dollar that these other Republican Gov’s that are pissing people off in their states and aren’t popular are very possibly showing the entire country what these guys would do if elected en masse in 2012….how ironic would it be to have their ugly, and very serious antics, be the driver to get people to vote for the Dem next year?

  11. 87 meta
    June 26, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Wow, it’s June and Huntsman is already tired? He has no idea. Try governing.

    • June 26, 2011 at 10:53 am

      That was really funny, Meta. How is he going to run a campaign? Makes me think of Fred Thompson.

    • June 26, 2011 at 11:03 am

      He won’t be the nominee, but if he were, PBO would run him like a rented mule.

      I remember the 2008 primary — it was absolutely grueling and I have to give it to Hillary: she managed to go toe to toe with Obama to each and every contest. I knew once he got out of the primary, the general election would be (relatively) easy compared to the paces Hillary took him through. By the end McCain looked like he just wanted it to be over.

      I think it’s hilarious Huntsman is complaining about bronchitis and being tired. That’s what happens when you try to have an add-water-instant-campaign run for the presidency. When he said people met him at a plane telling him they had a campaign waiting for him, it only confirmed what I already sensed: he’s just not a contender.

      • 91 meta
        June 26, 2011 at 11:13 am

        That whole “folks just met me at the plane with a campaign ready to launch” is such a weird fabrication.

        McCain took weekends off during the general!

        • June 26, 2011 at 11:49 am

          I think there may be a granule of truth to it — after all, their last successful nominee, none other than Dumbya Bush, followed that model: the real string-pullers were behind the scenes: Cheney, Rove, et al. All Bush had to do was what he had always done in his whole mediocre life — show up for a few appearances, while others did the real work.

          Huntsman is similar to Bush — a mediocre student born with a silver spoon in his mouth, following the path of least resistance, never really forming a true personal philosophy because he never needed to, going into the family business for a little while, then failing up to public office — a governorship where the state legislature truly pulls the strings and he can do the easy stuff like signing tax-cutting bills. Like Dumbya, he has a quasi-moderate demeanor that the powers that be hope will hide the same old radical republican dogma.

          The only problem is that he would have to run against a Barack Obama, who is obviously head and shoulders above him in every way and would completely wear. him. the. hell. out.

      • June 26, 2011 at 11:14 am

        And he’s dishonest. He had people building a campaign for him while he was ambassador and that is against the law.

        • 94 dotster
          June 26, 2011 at 11:36 am

          You mean you didn’t buy the shocked surprise of Huntsman and wifey that he had a fully-staffed, up and running campaign that was awaiting him on his return? 🙂

      • 95 desertflower
        June 26, 2011 at 12:37 pm

        🙂 “Run him like a rented mule” 🙂

      • 96 theo67
        June 26, 2011 at 2:26 pm

        Very good points – I like the “add-water-instant-campaign” term. I don’t know why the media didn’t pounce on that fact, that he’s a puppet stepping into an existing campaign and was “shocked” to find the campaign just waiting for him.

        These so-called “candidates” should also be trembling in their shoes after seeing Michelle Obama’s tour-de-force in Africa. If she’s the “secret weapon”, then they should be very afraid. And this time, unlike in 2010,she’s being brought out in support of her husband – not some other ungrateful candidates. This should be fun!

    • 97 africa
      June 26, 2011 at 11:04 am

      I know right? Imagine that. PBO has been going nearly non-stop since 2008 and this guy has been on the stump less than a week and he is already tired. What a hoot!

    • 98 meta
      June 26, 2011 at 11:16 am

      People don’t seem to understand just HOW indefatigable PBO really is. Boundless energy and the brains to outdo them all.

      • June 26, 2011 at 11:18 am

        And why do we want someone trying to be like President Obama when we’ve got the real thing? Please, go sit down, Huntsman. Mr. 2% who’s campaign “barely has a pulse.” Loved that line in the article.

        • June 26, 2011 at 4:22 pm

          ‘And why do we want someone trying to be like President Obama when we’ve got the real thing? Please, go sit down, Huntsman.’

          😆 😆 😆 😆

  12. June 26, 2011 at 11:09 am

    They’re going to raise the debt ceiling. All this nonsense is just political theater and posturing. And, I don’t think any of their hostage demands — more tax cuts — will be met this time.

    There’s no way the real masters behind the gop (Wall Street, corporations, banks) will let the country default — teabaggers be damned.

    This is a lot of noise, but at the end of the day, the debt ceiling will be raised.

    • 102 desertflower
      June 26, 2011 at 12:40 pm

      Agreed…in the meantime, it’s painful to watch, and such a waste of valuable time…by the way, I heard that Boner let all the House go home…until after the 4th of July…they are so “tired”…..I think they only work 3days/wk anyway…such whiners…they wouldn’t know a hard days work if it bit them.

    • 103 Sue in Minnesota
      June 26, 2011 at 1:05 pm

      I agree. Wallstreet owns the Republicans..no way they will push the world into a Depression, taking them with. The political machinations being exercised currently are callous, fear inducing and totally opportunistic. POS!

    • 104 lochelle
      June 26, 2011 at 1:52 pm

      I agree – Most American people did not there was a debt ceiling until the media started throwing out stupid talking points and polling voters over the last few weeks. They keep pushing this like this is a negotiable issue and it is most definitely not. The fates of Wall Street and Main Street are too closely tied, as we saw with the great financial collapse of 2008.

  13. June 26, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Huntsman is the new John McCain. Once held moderate positions, flip flops on most of them, disliked intensely by the base, boring and rich. And while he wasn’t in the military, Huntsman has been overseas and speaks another language. That’s huge for a Republican because they never seem to leave middle America. Pretty soon they’ll be bringing Huntsman his favorite donut. Remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB7EDnW-yns

  14. June 26, 2011 at 11:17 am

    The Media is trying to push Huntsman because they know they have to create a competitive Presidential race because it’s good for business but don’t want to have to risk one of the crazies potentially winning. They see Huntsman as sane enough that he wouldn’t destroy the country, so they can create their horse race while being able to sleep at night.

    That Iowa poll is BRUTAL for Pawlenty who is basically living there, criss crossing the state and has basically gone “All In” in Iowa and has been on the ground there for since January.

    The Republican Party wants a bomb thrower – it’s why Palin is popular, why Trump caught fire. It’s why Christie is getting the hard sell to come in. It’s why Pawlenty really screwed up when he wouldn’t confront Romney in person.

    Huntsman is a main line Republican – they’re trying to sneak is a Koch-roach in by saying he’s a nice guy.

    • 109 Sue in Minnesota
      June 26, 2011 at 1:13 pm

      I will forever more refer to Huntsman as Koch-roach, if I may borrow your splendid reference.

    • 110 theo67
      June 26, 2011 at 2:29 pm

      Brilliant! I want to steal it, too.

      • 111 isonprize
        June 26, 2011 at 4:15 pm

        brilliant! (with the minor point… They pronounce it like “coke”) But I still like Koch-roach, …

        • 112 Sue in Minnesota
          June 26, 2011 at 6:31 pm

          I don’t think anything is lost by pronouncing it coke-roach, we all know we are tying Huntsman to the Koch bros, and “It’s an Evil Thing!”

  15. 113 Debz
    June 26, 2011 at 11:35 am

    How can Huntsman be tired? His campaign just officially started? I am thinking he was pushed into this race by the McCain people.
    If a week on the campaign trail is so exhausting, how can he possibly handle all of the issues our energizer bunny POTUS is dealing with.

    • 114 hopefruit2
      June 26, 2011 at 11:45 am

      If you watched the video from 2008, where he was giving a stump speech for Sarah Palin, he sounded as tired as a horse. His voice was almost gone and it was an ugly thing to listen to. When I first saw this video several months ago, I predicted that this was a bad sign of things to come because it suggested that Hunstman would be easily worn out by the demands of a tough presidential or primary campaign.

    • June 26, 2011 at 12:06 pm

      I definitely think he was talked into it by the McCain folks and will regret it. He stepped into a ready made campaign, wasn’t around to start building it and gradually gear it up so he’s having to hit the ground in full sprint. Ignoring Iowa will probably help him in this regard as that is a lot of long, lonely drives.

      • 116 Left-Indie
        June 26, 2011 at 12:43 pm

        Huntsman was tired the day he announced. It’s all good gossip and meaningless. I like to know what we could collectively do to shed light on the Rethug’s sabotage of the American economy until Sunday shows start to talk about it, too. When i sent a nasty email to Rachel I immediately went to “…and when will you report on the Republican sabotage of the economy?” I hope this is a constant pivot they hear from us all the time no matter what the subject that comes up. I think after all is said and done, it’s the economy stupid, as Clinton camp said. We should have our ears open not for the occassional slight to the president, but to who is bringing the econ down to hurt him. The loud mouths aren’t doing it. The “you lie” assholes aren’t doing it. The PL aren’t doing it. I can ignore those slights, but not the distruction of the American economy for politacal gains. This should be treason.

  16. 117 mtmarilyn
    June 26, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Good morning everyone. I just arrived in CA after driving a uhaul 1400 for a friend moving from MT to LA. I was so tired but I checked in to see what was happening at TOD and boy what a read. You all gave me such a laugh and smile. I love this place. I really believe this is one of the reasons we will win. We love each and care about each other and now how to have fun, smile and laugh. We now how important this is to living a full wonderful life. I love all of you and especially Chips and BWD for giving us these spaces to express our love and respect for our wonderful President and his family.

    Hope everyone has a great day. I will be checking in often while I am in CA because I am staying with my brother and wife who is evangelical. We don’t discuss politics.

    • June 26, 2011 at 11:54 am

      Hi Marilyn 😀 . I always love your reports because you stay so busy! That must have been some pretty driving, even though it was exhausting.

    • 120 GGail
      June 26, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      Hellooooo MT! Welcome to CA. Hope your visit is pleasant. Looking forward to you weighing in again soon.

    • 121 desertflower
      June 26, 2011 at 12:42 pm

      Yea! Finally some sunshine for you:)

    • 122 Sue in Minnesota
      June 26, 2011 at 1:22 pm

      Love you back mtmarilyn. I went to college in Bozeman, Montana is awesome. Glad you arrived at your destination safely.

      Sometimes politics aren’t worth the price of conflict, from experience I know how volitale those conversations can sometimes become.

    • 123 lisalovesobama
      June 26, 2011 at 2:14 pm

      So jealous! I love CA was there for 2 days last summer: the afternoon I got in, the day I spent and the day I left. Didn’t even get to see the Golden Gate Bridge except to drive over it 😦 Hope you are able to unwind and see much more than I ever did. 😉

      • June 26, 2011 at 6:54 pm

        Hi Marilyn, welcome to our beautiful state. Happy to hear that you had a safe trip. I hope that your visit will be a lovely one. Enjoy the warm weather also. Such a pretty day today in SOCAL where I am. Enjoy your visit with you family, and also the sites here. I wish you the best, but hurry back because we do miss you. Enjoy yourself and your family.

  17. June 26, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    If you look at the actual numbers for their polling data in Iowa right now, then compare them to the final polling numbers in Iowa before the 2008 Iowa caucuses. Huntsman is polling lower than Rudy’s pathetic 3.4. Huckabee won the Iowa Caucus in ’08. He won the polls, too. Romney was #2, but it was McCain who was #3 with 13.0 in the polls before the caucus (fourth in the actual caucus) who went on to win the nomination. I would submit that the Iowa Caucuses are fairly worthless as a predictor for who will win the nomination. Who is third this time? Herman Cain. I don’t think he has a chance in hell of getting the nomination. I question if any of the candidates really care who wins Iowa at this point.

    • 126 dotster
      June 26, 2011 at 12:56 pm

      Iowa was huge for Obama. Winning there was key and the impetus he needed or it may have been all over.

  18. June 26, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    She pulled the same shite with Al Gore. I’m so tired of her adolescent psychobabble.

  19. 128 hopefruit2
    June 26, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    That’s why that straw poll at the Republican leadership convention with Hunstman coming in second was a crock.

    • June 26, 2011 at 1:38 pm

      McCain fared very badly in straw polls. In 2008 the radicals didn’t have the false sense of power they have now, so it will be harder for an Establishment endorsed candidate to get the nod like McCain did.

    • 130 meta
      June 26, 2011 at 1:46 pm

      I think the truth came out that Huntsman paid those folks to vote for him. Last straw, I guess.

  20. 131 gc
    June 26, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    OT: Chip – your fiancee popped up on the Bethrothal Thread

    Except for their immediate posses, does the average Rep voter even know one of these people from another? The most famous one is back up North shooting caribou. I wonder if in the deepest privacy of his heart, even a fully evolved man like BHO, must get a laugh out of the Clown Car.

    He’s not in it for the balloons either, but he is, at least, sane. And at most – limitless.

  21. June 26, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    In 2012, it’s going to be a choice do we want to go back to the folks who put this economy in the crisis in the first place, do we want to trust someone who is willing to let the economy fall apart, people suffer, just so they can try to blame everything on this President, and they hope they will get the WH back, it’s a choice between those who are for the rich, or those who are for the poor and middle class. Just look at what the Republicans have done and tell me one thing they have done for the middle class. Every cut they make is on the backs of the poor and middle class. But they want to make the Bush tax cuts for the rich permanent. It’s a choice between those who want to repeal the healthcare reform bill, and leave millions without health insurance, a choice between those who want to destroy Medicare, how will that help the economy to have millions without health insurance, then add in the elderly too. Never mind what the Republicans want to do to Social Security. You see what the Republican Governors are doing to the Unions, the teachers. I will never forget how the Republicans was all set to let unemployment benefits expire around Christmas, unless they got the Bush tax cuts extended for the rich. Boehner and his boys wanted the Koch Brothers to get another four hundred thousands for Christmas. Now if that don’t tell you who’s side the Republicans are on, nothing will. The President work out a deal so people wouldn’t lose their unemployment at Christmas, and so the middle class taxes wouldn’t go up the first of the year. Who was looking out for those who had nothing and those who has everything? I do believe if Pelosi were still Speaker of the House, we would have seen a job bill, we would have seen other things to try to help people fine work. The Republicans will not support anything like that.

  22. June 26, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Hey, Mitt Romney’s online campaign is following me on Twitter. They’re going to get soooooooooooo tired of reading my “I love you, President Obama” tweets and Romney is a job-killer tweets. Follow on, jokers.

  23. 143 Tulips
    June 26, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    Sarah Silverman came out for Obama 2012 check out the only adult in the room

    • June 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm

      While on stage in Tel Aviv.

      • June 26, 2011 at 7:10 pm

        Hi Fred. Hope you are feeling ok. I am feeling better today. You all makae me walk a little with our fine President’s beautiful swagger, smile with that beautiful sunshine, and give that look only he can,”I know you did not waste your time trying to ask me that? Now next question, please.” Really you all give me the lift that I need. Looking now for an event on the 4th near by. So keep well, Fred, we need you also. Love you back.

    • 147 Audrey
      June 26, 2011 at 8:17 pm

      Sarah has been very consistent and has not wavered in her support for President Obama! Thank you Sarah Silverman, you ROCK! God bless you!

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