15
Jun
11

this is what it’s all about….

Wondering about Kucinich’s motives today? Remember this from March?

CNN: Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich is transforming his critique of President Obama’s actions in Libya into a fundraising plea, asking supporters to decide whether they like President Obama or the Constitution more.

After calling the president’s decision to act in Libya an “impeachable offense,” Kucinich Monday posted a letter on his website asking supporters for help in “putting together a broad fundraising structure to make sure that I’ll have the resources to continue to be a voice in the Unites States Congress.”

….Stating that he “never failed to stand up” when advocating for the “need to more our economy forward” or “internationally standing up for peace,” Kucinich asked potential donors to shore up his re-election efforts for 2012.

“I’m asking you to really get engaged in this effort to not just make it possible for me to stay in the United States Congress but to make it possible even more importantly for my voice to continue to be heard on your behalf,” he said.

Ohio is set to undergo redistricting following the results of the most recent U.S. Census, a development that may make Kucinich’s road to re-election more difficult….

Full article here

So, Kucinich is just appealing to the lowest common denominator in all of this – ie anti-President Obama Leftbaggers and Teabaggers – in the hope that he can save his seat.

If the President hadn’t approved of action against Libya, Kucinich would have accused him of ignoring the slaughter of innocents by the Gaddafi regime. He is a contemptible unprincipled piece of crap.


54 Responses to “this is what it’s all about….”


  1. June 15, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    Posted this in the last thread but now that Chips has done this post, I’ll also put it here.

    I am so angry right now that I can barely see straight. Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers have done what is the last straw. I want them both run out of congress for this lawsuit against the President. I called their offices and told the assistant how disgusted I was and that I could not understand why they don’t spend their time fighting the republicans and their society-killing policies.

    I’m fed up. And we all need to let them have it. I was nice to the assistant but I was firm when I told them I hope Kucinich and Conyers are both run out of congress. They do not deserve to be there. I’ve tried to send an Twitter message but for some reason it would not go through.

    Please, people. We need to make our voices heard. This is ridiculous. I guess both of them have been bought off by business which is in bed with the republicans.

    You can reach Kucinich at 202-225-5871; Conyers at 202-225-5126

    These rats have been in Congress forever and have not done one thing for the people they represent or for America. They need to go. They only care about themselves.

    Also, Anthony Weiner needs to go right now. This Gloria Allred – porn star press conference is the last straw.
    Reply

    • 2 Dorothy Rissman
      June 15, 2011 at 4:58 pm

      Proud I join you. That little asshat is a pile of dung. He is trying to run in Washington State for the US Congress. Over my dead body. He is a carpet bagger. That little snit is using our president to get donations. I do not know if they have been bought out by business but I do know that Dennis will do anything to destroy the president as long as it improves his chances of being reelected.

      Thank you for the numbers.

    • 3 Dorothy Rissman
      June 15, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      Sorry I forgot to add that I am so sick of the weiner I could throw up. That poor woman is going to be made the evil one.

    • 4 FiredUpInCA
      June 15, 2011 at 5:03 pm

      I am beyond done with this party. They have been disrespecting this incredible once-in-a-lifetime figure, every step of the way. Many of them dragged their feet to the last possible moment when they were Super Delegates, even though it was clear he would win and he was running the most efficient and effective campaign.

      They claimed to be about healthcare reform, putting people back to work, climate change legislation, immigration reform, DADT and closing Gitmo. Then when it came time to put up or shut up on all those fronts they didn’t have his back.

      Now for the first time in my life, I’m seeing headlines of Democrats suing a sitting Democratic President for a lawful, U.N.-sanctioned humanitarian mission. Dennis Kucinich disgusts me but John Conyers profoundly disappoints me. The other Democrat doesn’t even rate a blip to me other than contempt.

      They never sued Bush. The didn’t sue Clinton for Kosovo. But the first African-American President inspires them to not take a meeting, like any intelligent, serious, non-grandstanding representative would do, no not that, let’s sue President Obama.

      The stupidity of this move is what do you think is going to happen to support for Democrats after this President has left office? They think they’re just insulting the President. They’re not. They are doing long-term, possibly, irreparable damage to the future of the party.

      Kucinich cannot be re-districted out of office fast enough. Progressives sure know how to pick some disgraceful, self-serving characters. john Edwards. Anthony Weiner. Dennis Kucinich. They’ve all exposed themselves as being all about themselves. Not one fricking job for the middle-class is being created with this stupid stunt.

      This is why I describe my political affiliation as an Obamacrat. I deeply respect and admire the President. His party? I am so mad right now, I don’t want to say what I think of his party.

      • June 15, 2011 at 5:07 pm

        FriedUpinCA, I agree with every word you wrote and I may borrow your comment because it is just so eloquent. They are doing permanent damage to the party. I consider myself an Obamacrat, too.. When our brilliant President leaves office in 2016, the democratic party will not get one dime from me and not one minute of volunteer time.

        I am done with them. They have backstabbed this president since before he could even take office. It is just unbelievable to me.

      • 7 Debz
        June 15, 2011 at 5:11 pm

        I have been calling myself an Obamacrat for about as long as PBO has been in office. When Obama leaves the WH I am done with the party. If any one wants my vote they will have to have supported the President.

      • 8 africa
        June 15, 2011 at 5:13 pm

        Everything you said. Personally, after this POTUS, I am done.

      • 9 Dorothy Rissman
        June 15, 2011 at 7:24 pm

        Fired up, I am with you 100%. It was okay for Clinton, Bush, Bush and Reagan to not have permission, but this president, NO! I call myself an Obama Democrat. I am going to have a button made. I first heard the term on Huffypuffy. A lot of dems were saying since the progressives fight the president on everything, so they all agreed to call themselves Obama Democrats.

      • 10 MoObama
        June 16, 2011 at 8:01 am

        Love it! Obamacrat.

    • 11 hopefruit2
      June 15, 2011 at 6:13 pm

      I called both offices and the lady who answered the phone for Conyers wanted me to tell her exactly what I wanted Conyers to do. She didn’t seem very happy that I was calling. I told her that Mr. Conyers like Dennis Kucinich and some other Democrats in congress, instead of spending their time calling out the Republicans for their nasty obstructionist behavior, their efforts to sabotage the economy and slashing of state federal budgets for high speed rail and public employees, they are attacking the President over trivial “pet” issues and using their protests for opportunistic fundraising. I told her that the the majority of us Democratic voters are sick and tired of these congressmen going on TV to bash the President for the slightest grievance, when all of them stood by while Bush was pushing his illegal war for 8 years and said nothing. Anyway, she heard me out and was generally polite, so I thanked her briefly and then hung up.

    • 13 nathkatun7
      June 15, 2011 at 11:54 pm

      Well said Proud of obama! I really feel bad because at one time I supported both Conyers and Kucinich. I have no qualms with them opposing the President’s policy in Libya. What is despicable is for them to join right wing Republicans in filing a law suit against the President; something they never did against Bill Clinton’s involvement with NATO attacks on Serbia.

      President Obama acted on the basis of U.N. Security Council Resolution. The last time I checked, the United States was required, by the Constitution, to honor its international treaty obligations. How in the world is the President violating the Constitution when he is participating in implementing U.N. Security Council Resolution? The U.S. is a signatory to the U.N Charter treaty. Is it possible that Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers are now subscribing to the Republican mantra that the United States is not expected to honor the Charter of the United Nations as well as NATO? Does John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich argue that the United States should have looked the other away when Gaddafi threatened extermination of the Libyan people who opposed his regime! Was the genocide in Rwanda, Serbia, Kossovo, and East Timor, not enough to shake their consciences about the international community’s failure to take immediate action to protect innocent people from brutal regime. Thankfully, most sane people in the world know the difference between a President who, under the mandate of the international community, reluctantly took military action to save people; and a president who, without UN permission, unilaterally invaded a country that was not, at the the time, threatening mass extermination of its people.

      I am just so sick of self serving politicians who pretend to be principled just to make a name and raise money for their re-elections. I am equally disgusted by the holier than thou progressives who, in the comfort of their cushy lives, hide behind claims of Constitutional violations in the face of impending humanitarian disasters. I am absolutely certain that the same people, who are now mercilessly bashing President Obama’s actions on Libya, would be bashing him had he stood by, and did nothing, while Gaddafi massacred thousands of innocent Libyans. The Question than John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich, and their self serving right wing Republicans, must be asked is: “Would you have allowed Gaddafi to exterminate hundreds of thousand of Libyans, in disregard of U.N. Security Council Resolution requesting member nations to take all necessary measures to protect the innocent Libyan People? An equally important question: Is the United States violating the Constitution when it elects to fulfill its international treaty obligations?

  2. 14 Obamaperson
    June 15, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    I think Kucinich is a good man. But I don’t like him very well. He tends toward extremes, and in the end I am not sure he doesn’t try to hurt the party if it is not quite as extreme as he is. There are no times when I can trust him to take the long view, to take two/thirds of a cake and not the whole in legislation that is complex and it is all right for it to be imperfect at first if we just keep working on it to make it better. I don’t think he has a long view. He wants the whole cake now, no matter how much he hurts the Democratic Party. I guess I would vote for him ahead of a Republican, especially a teabagger, but I would not put too much faith in him. Too extreme.

  3. 15 Fred
    June 15, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    you’re going to have to excuse my language because it is strong but Kucinich;Conyers and Weiner are all scum

    • 16 COS
      June 15, 2011 at 5:23 pm

      Fred, you are right. I am steaming. Why does he call himself a Dem? I think he may be losing credibility. Didn’t he sue over a broken tooth or something. I think he has a Napoleonic complex.

      • 17 Fred
        June 15, 2011 at 5:25 pm

        I bet you’ll see Maddow defending his traitor ass tonight 🙄

        • 18 MoObama
          June 16, 2011 at 8:18 am

          She didn’t defend him outright, but sidestepped the issue by discussing how the republicans are becoming more dovelike. She didn’t name names. See how the PL operates, they don’t like calling one of their own out when they cross the line. As a matter of fact if I remember correctly she didn’t even mention Dennis’ name, she said, three democrats and four republicans.

  4. 19 mtmarilyn
    June 15, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    I agree they are scum. I will be calling them out.

  5. June 15, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    A good man would not do what he’s doing. A good man would stand by this president for the good of the country. His actions do not help Americans. His actions hurt because they help the republicans. He needs to be replaced with a democrat who understands loyalty and is truly concerned about the people.

    Conyers is a crook who’s been in Congress 30 years and hasn’t done a damn thing. Detroit was a mess. What did he do to help President Obama bail out the auto industry?

    Where were the lawsuits against Bush for lying us into the war in Iraq? Stupid cowards. Haters. Jealous of this brilliant young man who has achieved more than they ever will.

    Now the stupid progressives are going on some kind of listening tour about jobs this summer. What a farce. Fight the damn republicans and you can get more jobs. Why aren’t they fighting the anti-voter legislation? They’re doing absolutely nothing but blaming the President.

    I despise them.

  6. 21 Debz
    June 15, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    Kucinich is not a good man, he is scum just looking out for himself. John McCain actually stood up for POTUS and asked if congress would be doing this if we had a republican president.

  7. June 15, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    The other scum involved is Michael Capuano from Mass. His number is 202-225-5111. They will ask you where you’re calling from because if you’re not in the district they don’t care. You can say you’re calling from Roxbury or Cambridge, zip code 02141.

    • 23 Debz
      June 15, 2011 at 5:07 pm

      Thanks for that info because I wouldn’t know any towns in his district. He will get a call from me too.

  8. 24 Fred
    June 15, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    oh gawd have ya’ll seen the pictures of Weiner wearing women clothing from his college years on the cover of the National Enquirer just shown on Extra? 😯 😯

    make him go;PLEASE make him go

  9. 28 COS
    June 15, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    This is a sad story about this lady selling her letter from PBO. Folks expect PBO to work miracles. He is human just like us.

    http://beta.news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/struggling-single-mom-sells-obama-letter-153110485.html

  10. June 15, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Lol! Here we go again. More bs from the pl. Joan walsh just said on hardball, that Obama was the candidate of wall street and that us ordinary donors don’t matter.

    I am really getting sick of the pl!

    • 30 Chi
      June 16, 2011 at 6:31 am

      But Joan Walsh never supported President Obama…

      She was a rabid Hillary supporter who kept bitching on long after President Obama got into office…

  11. 31 GOVCHRIS1988
    June 15, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    That goddamned troll and the PL can eat some bullshit for all I care. Oh, it seems they already have.

  12. 33 gc
    June 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    I’ve been trying to stay calm, cool and collected – my immune system requires it – so veering away from the garbage. But this was too much: Dennis and comrades:

    GO TO HELL

    (Sorry, and thanks for the opportunity to scream.)

    Got a better idea…time for another donation to OFA>>>>>>>>>>>

  13. June 15, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Here’s a little gem about that snake Huntsman. Just another lying, rich rethug who cares nothing about America. Seems his company makes its money by employing people in China and India rather than North America.

    “Huntsman Corp.’s revenue in China surged 57 percent from 2009 to 2010 during his ambassadorship, almost two decades after its entrance there, data compiled by Bloomberg shows. Its expansion in the world’s second-largest economy offers a target for rivals when U.S. unemployment is shaping the 2012 presidential race.

    /snip/
    “We now employ more people between China and India than we do in North America, which is really quite phenomenal when you consider that about 90 percent of our associates 10 years ago were in North America,” CEO Peter Huntsman, 48, a younger brother of the potential candidate, told an industry conference on June 8.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-15/huntsman-money-made-in-china-challenges-obama-envoy-s-white-house-hopes.html

    • 35 hopefruit2
      June 15, 2011 at 6:17 pm

      The more information comes out about Hunstman, the less appealing he will be to ordinary, reasonable voters.

      • June 15, 2011 at 6:25 pm

        Dnc and the dccc is different organizations. The dnc is more affable with Dws and the dccc, not so much!

      • 37 Betty's Girl
        June 15, 2011 at 6:30 pm

        I definitely think he is the Koch nominee. He fits the role perfectly. He is a nice con man just like Walker and the Michigan Gov. He comes across as a normal calm and reasonable thinker but he is extreme. Rahm, Plouffe, and Obama know this about him too. I don’t think they estimated him resigning to come back to run against the President but I hope they dirtied him up enough so the Kochs still can’t sell him to even their voter (HOPEFULLY).

        • 38 Chi
          June 16, 2011 at 6:36 am

          Nah…

          Jon Huntsman does not come across as a ‘nice’ guy…

          He is transparently creepy and sinister…

          Look at those gaping, flared nostrils…

          Those are the results of constant sneering and snarling…

          Jon Hunstman will be exposed in no time and his fake, glued together, ‘persona’ will fall apart as quckly as he will be played out…

    • 39 COS
      June 15, 2011 at 6:27 pm

      I also just heard on MSNBC that the Bush crowd is getting behind Huntsman him and want him to run. Funny that they are not urging Rick Perry to run. Rick Perry keep saying that he is a Prophet. What gives?

      So Mr clean preppy Huntsman is not so clean after all. He already said that he supports Ryan’s budget plan to kill medicare as we know it. How will he get out of that?

  14. 40 Claire
    June 15, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    This is why I do not donate to the DNC. There are too many Dems trying to bring down the President. I write to them and let them know because of Rep. (_____) behavior I will no longer donate to the DNC.

  15. 42 FiredUpInCA
    June 15, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    I was wrong about Kucinich not suing Clinton and Bush. Looking at his history, the more pertinent question is, who hasn’t he sued:

    In 1999 Kucinich reportedly threatened a lawsuit against the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), for not releasing records from a seedy developer deal that involved the repossession of subsidized housing projects in East Cleveland. HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo eventually relented and released the records.

    In the 2002 case of Kucinich v. Bush, the Ohio Congressman and other lawmakers sued President Bush, Colin Powell, and Donald Rumsfeld for withdrawing from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. The courts ruled that they didn’t have standing

    In the 2003 case of Doe v. Bush, Kucinich and other plaintiffs sued President Bush and Donald Rumsfeld for attempting to launch the Iraq war without a congressional declaration of war. The case was dismissed.

    In 2008, Dennis Kucinich and co-plaintiff Willie Nelson sued the Texas Democratic Party, objecting to the requirement that they swear a “blind loyalty oath” to back the party’s eventual presidential nominee. The oath was upheld.

    In the run-up to the 2008 New Hampshire Democratic primary, Kucinich claimed that ABC was unfairly excluding him from the presidential nomination process and vowed “various types of legal action that are gonna go long after this election. … And they’re going to find that they’ve met the one person in this government who isn’t gonna back down.” He eventually filed an FCC complaint against ABC.

    In 2009, for example, Kucinich concluded that Phoenix Books, the publisher of his campaign biography The Courage to Survive, didn’t release it soon enough or market it hard enough, so he sued the company for an undisclosed amount. A court dismissed all of Kucinich’s claims a few months later.

    During last year’s midterm congressional campaign, Kucinich allegedly threatened to sue the campaign of his Republican opponent Joel Pollak, complaining that he had been smeared by a defamatory blog post involving a piece of anti-Semitic third-party direct mail. Whether or not Kucinich followed through is unclear.

    Last week, Representative Dennis Kucinich of Ohio made headlines by announcing that he would sue the congressional cafeteria because a sandwich wrap he bought “contained dangerous substances, namely an olive pit,” and requesting $150,000 in damages. (He quickly settled.) But this is not—by a long shot—the first time Kucinich has threatened to sue somebody. Click through this TNR slideshow to see a selection of Dennis Kucinich’s legal engagements.

    http://www.tnr.com/slideshow/politics/82621/kucinich?5

    • 43 EDP4BHO
      June 15, 2011 at 7:48 pm

      Kucinich is a punk. There’s nothing brave about him. Very narcissistic person. I wonder who in his past told him he was so damn important. Most lefties are nuts. Obamacrats rule 😀

  16. 45 jeri Gloss
    June 15, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    I am not surprised by anything Kucinich pulls. For a straight shooter, he is wicked curvy….

  17. 47 CEB
    June 15, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    What an ass-wipe! Kucinich, the boy who cried wolf too many times. He should take his toys and go home.

    Sorry if anyone is offended by my word choice, but it is apt.

  18. 48 Karen, Sr.
    June 15, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    When I get angry, I am no Barack Obama. I always sound like a raving lunatic. I start out nice and calm and collected like a reasonable adult and then it’s all downhill from there. After I placed the third call I have to admit I was barely coherent. I wonder how they’ll transcribe that call!

    Hope you all have better luck.

  19. 51 graciouslady
    June 15, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    kucinich, DA#N what a SNAKE!!!!

  20. 52 kasai
    June 15, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    I am beyond pissed………….I posted this on the wrong blog.

    We need to BOMBARD THEM WITH CALL EMAIL………………NO NEED TO GET UPSET….LET’S GET PRO-ACTIVE…..

    CALL THEM……Till they get Tired……

    PBO NEED YOU TO FIGHT……..

    WE CAN SIT HERE AND DO NOTHING…… It doesn’t help our cause
    PLEASE…DO CALL THESE BASTARDS…….

    DEMS ARE WORTHLESS…………….Notice that PBO had only Robert Gibbs to help him out on Debate night…C’mon…These worthless DEMS were nowhere to be found.

    I AM BEGGING YOU ALL TO CALL…CALL…………CALL………………….buttom line is that PBO can’t do it alone.

    WE OWE HIM OUR GRATITUDE BY FIGHTING FOR HIM……Blogging ain’t gonna do it….emailing ain’t gonna do it…..they simply can delete all that….BUT CALLS AND PROTEST…IS WHAT’S NEEDED……..How long do we have to wait??????
    Reply

  21. June 15, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Why aren’t Kucinich and his pals working together on something which will help people? Like a job bill.

  22. 54 Walking on Sunshine
    June 15, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    It’s after hours but I called and left a message at Kucinich’s office. It’s united we stand, divided we fall and these guys just don’t seem to get that. I asked him to drop the stupid lawsuit!

    What is wrong with these people. I’m not giving any money to anyone who won’t stand with the President.


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