do you smell desperation?

NBC: Chris Christie said Monday that he understands the argument for why he should run, but remains committed to sitting out the 2012 presidential race.

The New Jersey governor did not shut the door on a future presidential run during an interview with CNN’s Piers Morgan, but definitively stated again that he will remain in Trenton.

“You said, I think, you more likely would commit suicide than to run for president. Can we hold you to that, governor?” Morgan asked Christie, to which the governor responded: “Yes, you can.”


South Carolina supporters of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie are launching a movement aimed at drafting the rotund Republican into presidential service this week.

Led by Florence Rep. Kris Crawford, a group of state lawmakers will roll out their “Draft Christie” movement at the S.C. State House on Wednesday.

“The campaign will focus on increasing awareness of Gov. Chris Christie’s conservative record and encouraging other South Carolinians to join them in urging Governor Christie to run for President of the United States,” said Somer Grasser, a spokesperson for the organization.

The event will take place in the first floor lobby of the S.C. State House at 11:00 a.m. EDT.

81 Responses to “do you smell desperation?”

    June 15, 2011 at 10:04 am


    • 2 Anonymous
      June 15, 2011 at 10:15 am

      Yep, that’s why they’re having all these secret meetings. They will get behind one person and push him. We need to not be distracted from our goal to help PBO raise the money he will need and in getting out the truth. We have got to get people motivated to swamp the media to tell the truth.

    • 3 StR
      June 15, 2011 at 1:38 pm

      I don’t believe this to be the case. It’s late in the game already and all of the staffers and volunteers are being sucked up current campaigns. Also campaigning is hell, and if you need to be begged and pleaded with to run – then your hearts not really in it. And your heart needs to be in it for 18 months of long hours, commercial flights and long drives of retail politics. And the constant scrutiny – every gesture and word is dissected – imagine your last professional job interview and rather than being 3-4 hours it was 18 months long. Also you have to literally beg for donations, every waking hour your not politicking in the public you’re on the phone looking for money. You’re going to have to pander to far right crazies, kiss the right rings and right asses and meet people you’d never even want to be in the same room with.

      And the level of scrutiny when you win the primary will rachet up 10 fold, if you’ve ever smoked a joint it’s news, if you ever cheated on your wife it will be news, all your ex-girlfriends will be hunted out for dirt, as will all ex-classmates. If you ever got arrested it will be news, if you got a speeding ticket or three it will be news. Ever “under report” on your taxes and it’s news.

      And if you win the primary you’re taking on a sitting President who is personally liked by 70%, who will have near a billion dollars raised aimed directly at you and has four years of looking Presidential (reason why the DNC Convention backdrop was the White House mock-up, so folks could “see” Candidate Obama going into the White House).

      There are two remaining that could be late entries – Giuliani and Perry. The GOP can’t find a super secret recruit and spirit them in late and tell all the rest to get out of the way. Romney would never get out of the way for one. Pawlenty and his supporters would have been working long hours for months and wouldn’t appreciate the attempted bigfooting.

  2. 4 meta
    June 15, 2011 at 10:13 am

    They are always stinking up the place.

    Seriously, I don’t get the appeal of Christie. I realize he’s a conservative but what else? What am I missing? He seems like just another loud-mouthed bully to me. Does he remind them of Rush or something?

    • June 15, 2011 at 10:19 am

      I don’t get it either, meta. What has the bully done? He’s been gov for two seconds. I don’t see any intellect and especially no compassion. He talks to voters like they’re dogs. Why do people support these heartless idiots?

      I also agree with Sue. I saw that they’re having secret meetings in NY today — Guiliani, Christie, Perry. They’re plotting. But we will fight hard to helo PBO raise the money he needs and get the word out about his successes.

        June 15, 2011 at 10:34 am


        • 7 meta
          June 15, 2011 at 10:42 am

          Well, the Koch brothers can scheme all the want. I think we’re seeing that money can’t buy everything. They can now hide their money trail but it will be so obvious that they are pushing their crazy extremist agenda. I don’t see the country going hard right.

      • 8 meta
        June 15, 2011 at 10:36 am

        What an odd and ugly trifecta. OOooooff. Perry, a tired ol’ Texas cowboy wannabee who jogs with a gun. Giuliani, GAH, a pitiful retread in search of something to do besides make gobs of money off his 9/11 incantations. This is the best year of the awfuls for Repubs, or anubis horribilis as Queen Elizabeth might say. And what is this thing where people think somebody can be President just because they’ve been on TeeVee for a few minutes? No intellect, no achievement, no thoughtful writing, no substance whatsoever. Just puffery. UGH.

      • June 15, 2011 at 10:39 am

        We are not only up against these rich guys, they also pay the salaries of the people in this Reality Show, we call our media. And so, we have to be more than vigilant in fighting this good fight. As Al Sharpton would say, their “politricks” stinks to the high heaven.

        Note that all across the states that where they have governors, they have moved to restrict or strip people of their voting rights by changing the rules. And they are doing it without much attention from a press that chooses to look the other way. The one saving grace we have is that they are overreaching so much that the very people that voted for them (despite PBO’s warning not to give the keys back to them) are snapping into reality.

        I am afraid that they are hatching all kinds of plots. If they fail in keeping us from the polls, make no mistake, they will try to invent some other way to steal our votes. I believe this with every fiber in my being. While we work hard for PBO, these are some of the things we need to keep in our minds, as well.

        As a native from a small West African country, I have never seen a group, especially the GOP, that prides itself in taking arms into other people’s nations to spread democracy, work overtime to stifle the same at home. What gives?

  3. 10 halo
    June 15, 2011 at 10:18 am

    The Republican Establishment is going to line up with Huntsman.

      June 15, 2011 at 10:37 am


        June 15, 2011 at 10:38 am


        • 13 halo
          June 15, 2011 at 10:53 am

          Sue, I disagree. If you read about or watch some clips of his performance yesterday in NYC with Republican elites, he did very, very well. He’s going to have the money to compete, especially since Blah-lenty went bust. And if he ends up being a good campaigner, and not just a smart guy, he’s just about the only Republican, minus Romney, who can attract independent voters. If he can get past the crazy, which I think he can since he’s skipping Iowa, it’s goign to be a dog fight.

  4. 14 carolyn
    June 15, 2011 at 10:19 am

    My husband heard on NPR this week about a meeting of the rich far right wing Republicans in Florida. They truly want a far right winger to run, and have the money to make it happen. This source said they can’t wait to take the Republican party to the far right….not just the tea party wing. It seems to me they tried this in 1964, and that was such a success!!! Every 50 years or so they just can’t resist the pull. I would suggest that before Christie ever decides to run, he should join the First Lady’s “Let’s Move” campaign.
    The other night RM pointed out that every one of the Republican candidates has higher disapproval rates in their home states than approval rates. They seem blind to this.

    • June 15, 2011 at 10:28 am

      Well Christie is upside down in his own stare, and perrys state of Texas is 23 billion in debt! Perry has cut the he’ll out of government spending and tax cuts for the rich, yet he is still 23 billion in debt! Not one word of any of this from the msm.

  5. 16 PoliticalJunkessa
    June 15, 2011 at 10:25 am

    LMAO @ “drafting the rotund Republican” <——- was that in the original article? 😆

  6. 21 Anonymous
    June 15, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Random thought.

    I am trying to understand why for a group, especially the GOP political leaders that preach about taking arms to other nations to spread democracy, they work extra hard to stifle the same in this country. It boggles the mind. Of late when you look at all these states headed by Republican governors, their staunch desire is to make it difficult for ordinary people to vote. This is just appalling.

    On the Tom Joyner Morning show today, the Rev. Al Sharpton talked about how these governors are changing the rules to make it difficult for the poor, elderly and minorities to vote. What are they so afraid of? And why are people, especially our mega Reality Show, aka, MSM just mum on the issue?

    All I can think about is PBO warning Americans not to give the keys back to the GOP. And did they listen? Nope.

    Go figure.

  7. 22 Fred
    June 15, 2011 at 10:31 am

    morning TOD family.

    May GOD guide;bless and protect the President

    PLEASE make this go viral on your blogs;;facebook and twitter as Glenn Beck is really a danger to Mr Obama 😡


    PLEASE contact the DC Secret Service office also on Beck as this cannot continue

  8. 23 StR
    June 15, 2011 at 10:34 am

    The GOP wants it’s tough guy and Christie is a bully. You think Pawlenty who won’t even confront Romney to his face will win any support? Or Huntsman who is a slight man and very un-tough looking?

    Why is Palin so popular with the teabaggers – because she talks tough, Trump rocketed up the polls because he talked all brash and tough.

    The GOP base wants a tough guy with swagger to come in and figuratively punch President Obama in the nose.

      June 15, 2011 at 10:41 am


    • June 15, 2011 at 10:44 am

      For all their tough talk, that is all they do. We saw them catching Bin Laden “dead or alive,” and never did. Then there was the switching the name of French Fries to Freedom Fries (eek); and then they are the only ones who love the toops, yet all these years that’s all they’ve done is talk about them.

      Tough talk led us into Iraq and trillions of dollars in debt. They never stop.

  9. 26 halo
    June 15, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Want more evidence on the GOP playbook to take down this country just to get back at the President?

    Morning Joe had a FT reporter this morning saying investors around the world look at the American political system today and say it’s unstable, on par with Indonesia, thanks to the IDIOT Teabaggers in Congress who think default is A OK. Financiers are already making preparations for a default, a possibility that causes uncertainty, which dampens economic growth.


  10. 27 dotster
    June 15, 2011 at 10:39 am

    It sure looks like the Repubs are still not happy with their possible candidates. Is it because they’re all more than a bit nutty? CNN spent most of yesterday promoting Christie on Piers Morgan show, misleading viewers saying that he may run. Tune in to find out this exciting news!?! And many of the talkers are just giddy speculating about extreme rt. wing Gov. Perry jumping into the race. And then some of these same pundits sit and talk about the real possibility that Michelle Bachmann could be the Repub. candidate, and they are managing to discuss this with a straight face!!! They’re calling her the brainiac Sarah Palin—-OMG. Don’t they know we have her on vid, screaching that SHE WILL NEVER AGREE to RAISE the DEBT CEILIMG!!!, the world economy be damned! and saying every member of Congress should be investigated for anti-American activities! And my fave, they say she has national security creds because she serves on the Intelligence Committee! Twilight Zone time!

    • June 15, 2011 at 10:51 am

      Dumbfounding, isn’t it?

      This is good for the ratings, America be damned. Our erstwhile media are the lead instructors in the dumbing down of America.

  11. June 15, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Well, Greece is messing with the whole world again!!! When is Greece going to get there shit together?
    They single handedly have ruined our recovery not once but twice!

      June 15, 2011 at 10:41 am


    • June 15, 2011 at 10:51 am

      What is up with Greece? If it ain’t one thing it’s another. I wish Greece and the Republicans could get together and go jump off some cliff. I shouldn’t have said that.

    • 33 StR
      June 15, 2011 at 11:17 am

      Greece’s problem is they’re locked into the Euro. If they had their own currency they could devalue it by printing more which would kill their dollar abroad but would stave off some of the problems they are having now with their economy. But since they’re locked into the Euro, the European Union is telling them what they have to do and it’s deep austerity cuts and that is not sailing well as one could imagine. Greece would rather just ditch the Euro, but the EU will never let that happen. Greece relies heavily on tourism, and when the world economies crashed, nobody was travelling. Not to mention Greek governments were caught fudging their numbers so they EU Monetary guidelines – so they were spending a lot of money they didn’t have and are hugely in debt.

  12. June 15, 2011 at 10:43 am

    The people of New Jersey is starting to regret electing him, they don’t want him , and for sure we don’t.

    • June 15, 2011 at 10:46 am

      I have said this before and I mean no harm. If a woman look like Christie, she wouldn’t stand a chance. That’s the double standard here in this country.

      • 36 meta
        June 15, 2011 at 11:03 am

        WORD. If a woman had done what Wiener had done – posted photos of her genitals – she’d be burned at the stake.

  13. June 15, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Good morning TOB friends. I agree with you. Christie is a big bully. Did you all see this article which gives a little history of Bachmann? She is a little frightening. I found this section very interesting.


    “Bachmann often says she has “raised” 23 foster children. That may be a bit of a stretch. According to the Minnesota Department of Human Services, Bachmann’s license, which she had for 7 1/2 years, allowed her to care for up to three children at a time. According to Kris Harvieux, a former senior social worker in the foster-care system in Bachmann’s county, some placements were almost certainly short term. “Some of them you have for a week. Some of them you have for three years, some you have for six months,” says Harvieux, who also served as a foster parent herself. “She makes it sound like she got them at birth and raised them to adulthood, but that’s not true.”‘


    • June 15, 2011 at 10:53 am

      I’d love to hear from some of her foster kids.

      • June 15, 2011 at 11:51 am

        Yeah me too… plus she supposedly gave birth to 5 of her own. With all that said, I could care less how many kids or foster kids she’s ‘raised’.. what I care is that she never ever makes it to the White House and that next election she doesn’t make it back into Congress. She is not only very stupid she is scary stupid.

    June 15, 2011 at 10:45 am


  15. June 15, 2011 at 10:50 am


    California dems caved! Slashing education no tax increases! Wow!!!

    • June 15, 2011 at 10:53 am

      California dems have super majorities but passed a far right budget!!!!

      • 43 meta
        June 15, 2011 at 11:00 am

        Jovie, Gov. Brown has been working tirelessly to get the 2/3 majority to put the 1-year continuation of the tax on the ballot. The Republicans are standing in his way and refuse to let the voters of California decide. Last week, 2 Dems joined them because they are afraid that the initiative might not pass. THIS DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. So we are screwed. I know Jerry has been mediating this constantly. One of my closest friends is a legislative analyst in the State Capitol and her husband is a lawyer in the budget office who writes this stuff. She has been working 14 hour days but I’m going to try and reach her to see if I can get the inside story. I’m so sick of the Republicans doing such catastrophic damage to our states.

        • June 15, 2011 at 11:09 am

          It’s the filibuster rules of your state. Raise taxes and we need 2/3rd vote!
          Same in the united states senate, does not matter if you have democrats , the rules favor the republicans.

          My concern is, how long before Ed Shultz, blames this on the president? Lol!

          • 45 meta
            June 15, 2011 at 11:24 am

            I’m still very, very, very, very grateful to be a Californian!!!!

            • June 15, 2011 at 11:56 am

              I am a Californian raised..and raised my two eldest sons there. I remember when Jerry Brown was governor the first time around- he was the best thing ever for CA, it was Ronald Reagan that came along and screwed our state. I left there back in 1996 and I hope to one day return. If CA will keep the government there democratic, things will turn around again and get back on track. When I was a kid it was the best state in the country.. best education, very forward thinking, very progressive.. and I was a kid in Orange County 😉

              • 47 meta
                June 15, 2011 at 12:29 pm

                sherijr, I hope you make it back. It’s a total haven for Democrats and still a wonderful place despite Republican efforts to destroy every good thing. I too remember Jerry back in the day. Even had a serious crush on him!! Reagan was the beginning of the end of decent leadership for the people. I thank my lucky stars that Jerry stepped up to it again and we defeated that horrible joke, Meg Whitman.

    • June 15, 2011 at 11:07 am

      I live in SoCal. I haven’t read my LA Times yet but I have been listening to the news and they said that all of the planned layoffs in the schools were averted. I will get the full details as soon as I read the paper.

  16. 49 Debz
    June 15, 2011 at 10:53 am

    OH YUK! seeing this person’s face first thing. The repugs really do not like their choices do they? For all of the media’s praising Romney I don’t think the party is really happy with hiom.

    • 50 Debz
      June 15, 2011 at 10:53 am

      That would be “him.”

    • June 15, 2011 at 11:14 am

      Rachel sure did a nice job last night on Romney’s controversal homes and residence. She named all of the right wing organizations who are working to make sure that he does not become the nominee. She was questioning why Huntsman seem to be avoiding Utah. His headquarters will be located in Florida.; apparently his wife is from Florida.

      • 52 Debz
        June 15, 2011 at 11:17 am

        Then she promptly went on and tried to blame the President for wisconsin. I had to turn her off.

      • June 15, 2011 at 4:23 pm

        Yeah, I watched Rachel last night, and like you said, she did a great search on Mitt and all his different homes, and living In the basement of his Son’s home, and yet It’s not adding up. Huntsman Wife is from Orlando

    • 56 Dakota
      June 15, 2011 at 11:23 am

      “OH YUK! seeing this person’s face first thing.”

      My sentiments exactly. YUK indeed!

  17. 57 AnitaW
    June 15, 2011 at 10:55 am

    I think you are right. This smells of desperation because the GOP establishment (donors and such) are not happy with their list of candidates. After two debates and we are still talking about who they would like to draft? Seriously?

  18. 58 Hachikō
    June 15, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Good morning, TOD family! Good morning, Chip. can someone tell me how to contact Chip? There used to be a contact link for her, now there’s only one for media contact info.

    I wanted to email her and tell her my heart stopped beating as I scrolled down the home page, catching up on yesterday’s posts, and came across that Vogue Men’s cover. OMG. Lawd hammercy. MmmhmmmM! I have to go sit under the fan now, thank you Ms. Chip.

  19. 59 blondegrrl
    June 15, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Ugh. I’m in New Jersey so I’ve seen first hand our Governor blasting away at hapless constituents who ask questions he doesn’t like. He is a bully of the first order.
    I believe him when he says he is not running in 2012 – I think he’ll wait until 2016 when there is a better chance for a Republican to win. Besides I told my husband
    that when we see Chris Christie losing weight, we’ll know he’s in the race.

    • 60 StR
      June 15, 2011 at 11:59 am

      I don’t think he’ll seek re-election in 2013 because he could very well lose – he only won because Corzine wouldn’t get out of the way afterall and New Jersey is a blue state. At best it would be a toss-up and he won’t risk losing re-election because that would kill his Presidential aspirations.

    • June 15, 2011 at 4:26 pm

      Yeah, because his weight certainly, and I do mean certainly, does not make him LOOK Presidential. You gotta appea pleasing to the eye, If you’re gonna run for President

      • 62 theo67
        June 16, 2011 at 2:48 am

        I honestly think that his weight wouldn’t be as big a problem if he wasn’t such an obnoxious jerk. He’s so unlikeable, and he’s just rude. If he wasn’t ugly on the inside, then he really wouldn’t appear as ugly on the outside. Same story with palin. And these are the people who represent the Republican Party.

  20. 63 africa
    June 15, 2011 at 11:36 am

    It’s no wonder they are desperate for a candidate. Check you this NYT article on the GOP debates:

    “Monday’s Republican presidential debate in New Hampshire — full of historical error, economic obfuscation, avoidance of hard truths and even outright bigotry — was a feast for connoisseurs of political dysfunction. Desperate to avoid being outflanked on the right, the seven candidates tried so hard to outdo each other in finding fault with President Obama that they seemed to forget that they are competing for the same party nomination. By evening’s end, they had melted into an indistinguishable mass of privatizing, tax-cutting opponents of Shariah law.”


    • June 15, 2011 at 12:00 pm

      Oh man africa, that is an excellent assesment by the NYT… love this : “a feast for connoisseurs of political dysfunction”

      It was indeed. Was a mass of lies and mush they were.

    • 65 AnitaW
      June 15, 2011 at 4:17 pm

      This was my reaction to the debate. Obama is bad blah blah blah. Obama has failed blah blah blah. They are trying to out-do each other in their hate of POTUS while failing to realize that their time to debate him is not until they are actually the nominee.

      BTW, I set meeting with OFA volunteer to discuss volunteering. The young woman sounded about 18, but probably isn’t. I’m getting so frustrated with the media and the lopsided coverage that I decided it was time to start volunteering now.

  21. June 15, 2011 at 11:38 am


    The NH newspaper slams the Romney and huntsman… About time!

    • 67 AnitaW
      June 15, 2011 at 4:22 pm

      From what I understand this is a right-wing paper with diminishing influence, but still some power in the state. Is there anyone familiar with N.H. on TOD today who can sound off on on the Union Leader’s reach?

  22. June 15, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Breaking: kucinich sues president Obama over the war in Libya!

    You gotta be kidding me???

    The pl will love this…

    • 69 africa
      June 15, 2011 at 11:53 am

      No kidding. Napoleon certainly is trying to replace Weiner in the spotlight. Wow.

      • June 15, 2011 at 11:58 am

        He is desperately not trying to help the president beat the republicans, but is trying to get rid of the president.

        This guy is dangerous bc his job is being eliminated! Another green party liberal that wants to make a name for himself!

        This is disconcerting! Also, I cannot wait until kucinich seat is eliminated. He gets nothing done and just goes for the headlines!

    • 71 sjterrid
      June 15, 2011 at 11:56 am

      OMG !!!

    • 72 Fred
      June 15, 2011 at 12:09 pm

      I hope the President(I know he won’t ) slaps Kucinich and tells him to frack off;really 😡

      is Kucinich receiving $ from Gadhafi?

    • 74 meta
      June 15, 2011 at 12:19 pm

      You know what? If PBO hadn’t done anything to help the massacre in Libya, Kucinich and the PL would be screaming bloody hell. They just make a career out of oppositional consciousness and angst.

    • 75 AnitaW
      June 15, 2011 at 4:22 pm

      What an ass. And I’m sure there is someone who will reach in their pockets and give him money.

  23. 76 sjterrid
    June 15, 2011 at 11:51 am

    I’m still recovering from the picture of Governor Christie, please pass the eye bleach.
    I got an email from the NJDSC they are having a rally at the State House in Trenton to Stand Up for Women on Monday, June 20th to demand that funding for Women’s health is restored in the states budget. I plan on going.

  24. 81 carolyn
    June 15, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    I honestly think what we’re hearing is desperation. I think they are flailing because there is NOT some secret, wonderful candidate hiding somewhere that they can bring out. Rick Perry couldn’t win Texas, and as soon as other people heard him talk, he would get laughed off the stage. Almost all the Republican governors are upside down in ratings, and there are no Republican Senators with any appeal to any but the farthest right. Part of the Republican plan is to keep us off balance, thinking they’ve got a secret weapon. Jeb Bush, with that last name, will have to wait another four years. If he ran, all his brother’s dirty laundry would be brought glaringly to the public, and he couldn’t escape the stench.
    Let’s not buy into their silly wish to unbalance us. We have the best president right now in the last fifty or sixty years!

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