14
Jun
11

lies, lies, lies….

Steve Benen: If one were to create a drinking game in which viewers of last night’s debate took a shot every time a candidate lied, the “winner” would be in the hospital this morning with alcohol poisoning. The Republican candidates treated reality as an inconvenience to be brushed aside in the name of political expediency.

It’d take too long to note all of the falsehoods, though there were some clear gems. Tim Pawlenty claimed Medicare is insolvent (that’s plainly false); Ron Paul said Iraq and Afghanistan share a border (has he not heard of Iran?), and Rick Santorum said President’s Obama refusal to drill for oil is causing pain at the pump (oil production is actually up under Obama, not down).

But my favorite lie came from Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who had this to say about the Affordable Care Act: “This is the symbol and the signature issue of President Obama during his entire tenure. And this is a job-killer, Sylvia. The CBO, the Congressional Budget Office has said that Obamacare will kill 800,000 jobs. What could the president be thinking by passing a bill like this, knowing full well it will kill 800,000 jobs?”

If Bachmann had any idea what she was talking about, it would make sense to question why the president would do such a thing. But Bachmann’s is either lying or she lacks the ability to understand the phrase “reduction of labor.”….

Full post here


28 Responses to “lies, lies, lies….”


  1. June 14, 2011 at 10:32 am

    They deliberately lie all the time and we need to keep calling it what it is.

  2. 5 DTTM
    June 14, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Off topic, but markets are way up, retail sales better than expected despite high gas prices.
    http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=alT3MHFIwSho&pos=1

    • 6 africa
      June 14, 2011 at 11:12 am

      Good news. I heard on my local radio news that gas prices were falling across the nation. I liked that yesterday President Obama’s economic advisors said that they will have to go around Congress to create jobs. Shame that they have to do that but such are the times we live in.

  3. 7 nintendowii10
    June 14, 2011 at 10:50 am

    I guess last night’s “debate” can be summed up as “blah blah blah Obama sucks, blah blah blah big government, blah blah blah one term President, blah blah blah.”

    I didn’t bother watching, but reading the comments from those who did, looks like I didn’t miss a thing. All it was essentially was a bash Obamathon, none of these clowns discussed their plans because they don’t have any. They’re hoping that enough folks will buy into their lies and put them into the White House, well it won’t happen. None of them are on POTUS intellectual level and will have the amount of appeal that he does.

  4. 8 meta
    June 14, 2011 at 10:51 am

    I’ve only caught a few seconds of this “debate” in video clips and read some of the coverage but, wow, what a bunch of lies and demagoguery, completely unchallenged. Is this what our country’s political process has become? A bunch of bold-faced lies in the name of divisiveness and in service of personal ambition? What an ugly travesty our political process has become. We deserve so much better. Who will get out the truth besides Steven Benen? Will the talking heads on teevee just let all this slide? Yeah, I thought so.

    • 9 cuphalffull
      June 14, 2011 at 11:03 am

      “A bunch of bold-faced lies in the name of divisiveness and in service of personal ambition”. You said it so very well. It is exactly what is being done!

    • 10 maggy519
      June 14, 2011 at 11:14 am

      What a difference it would make if people like Steve Benen would have a voice in the MSM! Oh wait, that couldn’t happen because he would just reveal them all as the hacks that they are. At any rate I love this comment under Steve’s article:

      “as for the number of lies spewed out last night, remember this is the Republican nomination. The candidates are not running to solve government problems. Every single one of them is up there promising that they have the mojo to defeat Barack Obama!

      The only issue that matters to the Republicans is which candidate can bring the tools that will win back the Presidency from the Black Democrat. That most of those tools are lies doesn’t really matter to the voters in the Republican primaries. What matters is which lie will work with enough voters to give them back the White House.

      They are fighting to roll back modernization, not to solve problems for the nation. They see modernization as The Problem and they have personified the source of the problem (civil rights, high taxes, diversity, gay rights, woman’s rights, Islamic Terrorism, abortion, secularism, etc.) as being the result of a black Democrat who occupies the Office of the Presidency.

      Just like removing Saddam Hussein was going to solve the Middle East problems, removing Barack Obama will now solve the problems of modernization they face. Conservatives are by their nature not abstract thinkers. They personify problems into an evil enemy who must be defeated for good to return.

      as long as they have an enemy to fight they have a reason to band together into groups to carry on the battle. It is membership in those groups that give their life meaning. Abstract ideas like government policy and such are not important to them”.

      That really chrystalizes what they are all about, doesn’t it?

  5. 11 meta
    June 14, 2011 at 11:03 am

    I’ve been searching for a video of the President’s meeting with the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness and I can’t find one. DRAT. But here’s a website they’ve set up so we should be able to follow their work:

    http://www.jobs-council.com/

  6. 12 Senior4Obama
    June 14, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Hey Ms. Chips, you need to title this group “bring in the clowns” (and I apologize to clowns everywhere). I know the Koch Brothers have to be banging their heads on the walls because these are the people leading their charge. They are just laughable!!!

    • June 14, 2011 at 11:05 am

      S4O, you’re being VERY harsh on clowns, comparing them to that lot! 😯

      • 14 Anonymous
        June 14, 2011 at 11:38 am

        Chipsticks, please create a special entry for an article that Rhandi Rhodes read yesterday that really breaks down what the Republican Party is up to. The article is by Robert Parry “The GOP’s CIA Playbook to Destabilize the Country to sweep back into Power”. You can locate it on Alternet. This is Michele ..

  7. 16 meta
    June 14, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Yes, that really does sum up their pathology perfectly. So hollow and empty and destructive for all of us.

    • 17 meta
      June 14, 2011 at 11:18 am

      This was supposed to be in reply to “Anonymous” above. Second time that’s happened. Not sure why this is glitchy today.

  8. 18 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    June 14, 2011 at 11:18 am

    MARK MY WORDS…THESE PEOPLE ARE MERELY A DISTRACTION….THE KOCH BOYS WON’T WASTE THEIR MONEY ON THEM. IT’S TOO EARLY TO GET SO UPSET….SAVE YOUR STRENGTH….IT’S GOING TO BE A LONG RUN WITH THESE REJECTS…HOWEVER…EVERY SINGLE BIT OF MY CONFIDENCE RIDES WITH OUR PRESIDENT. MY FAITH IS QUITE DEEP….IT IS THE GOOD LORD WHO ALLOWS HISTORY TO SELECT CERTAIN PEOPLE…HE HAS HIS HANDS ON OUR PRESIDENT’S SHOULDER!

    • June 14, 2011 at 4:08 pm

      Oh Sue, that’s exactly what I feel and sense In my gut. We musy believe, work, and keep the Faith. God’s got this. God Is gonna see us through, but we must Pray, Pray, and Pray some more. Let’s believe as we pray and work 🙂

  9. 20 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    June 14, 2011 at 11:21 am

    BTW…I CAUGHT MUCH OF MY MAN GIBBSIE LAST NIGHT WHO WAS ALSO ON ANDERSON COOPER. HE’S RIGHT WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE AND IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB. ALSO WATCHED INTERVIEWS WITH DAVID AXELROD…NOTE HIS CALM….MUCH LIKE THE PRESIDENT…HE’S GOT THIS!

  10. 21 Senior4Obama
    June 14, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Please note Ms. Chips, I did apologize to clowns everywhere, but this bunch is so laughable, the only thing I could think of is slapstick comedian clowns (please, please, forgive me clowns)

  11. 23 Fred
    June 14, 2011 at 11:26 am

    they all sounded like parrots repeating the same shit one after the other.I don’t think one of these folks have 1 single genuine idea that is theirs 🙄
    muslims
    gays
    big government
    abortion
    tax cuts that’s all they got 🙄

  12. 24 GGail
    June 14, 2011 at 11:34 am

    All I have to say at this point is….bring on the debates with our fearless leader President Obama!

  13. 25 jpscreations
    June 14, 2011 at 11:43 am

    A perfect rebuttal to the GOP, their media water carriers, and liars in general:

  14. 27 Asher in Boston
    June 14, 2011 at 11:53 am

    What a bunch of idiots, liars etc. Can you seriously picture any of these crazies representing America/and the world as our Potus? Makes you wonder what anyone considering voting for any of these liars is smoking.

  15. 28 nathkatun7
    June 14, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    We know that the Republican candidates, all of them, told lies about the President, but why didn’t the media , and especially the moderator, not openly call them out for their lies? The trouble is that low information viewers think that what the candidates said were nothing but truth, so help them god. The MSM stenographers are destroying American democracy!


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