‘the abyss of reactionary sloganeering’

Michael Tomasky (Daily Beast): Liberals are tempted to rejoice in Palin’s candidacy. But as Michael Tomasky argues, we should all dread the effect of her torrent of lies and demagoguery on our politics.

…. Like most liberals, I’m happy to sit back and watch the multi-car pileup in the Republican Party that she will inevitably induce. But… I’d actually prefer never having to think about her again, and I preemptively lament the corrosive effect her unvarying diet of lies and demagoguery will have on our politics. The Republican primary will likely set up in such a way that she’ll be able to pull the field, and the party, hard to the right, and while that will be fine for Barack Obama come Election Day, it will help cripple any attempt to do anything constructive afterward.

….So this is where we’re headed, if she runs, down into this abyss of reactionary sloganeering. And while she may not be the nominee, she’s likely to have a huge impact on the race … It’s a crucial point here that all the leading candidates have histories of apostasy: Mitt Romney on health care, Tim Pawlenty on carbon and the environment, Jon Huntsman on having worked for Obama (and even now Newt Gingrich, having thundered against Paul Ryan’s budget). Palin will tear into them, and they’ll probably be loath to tear back, because they want her voters after she drops out.

….she should be able to set the terms of discourse by saying outrageous things and then watching as reporters ask the others whether they agree with her, and they say, out of mortal fear of the base, yes I do.

These other candidates will be like that poor protagonist in District 9 – mysterious Palin fluid will spray onto their faces and the infection will inevitably hit them. As I said, that will be fun to watch. But the fluid might someday splash on the rest of us, too … I ache for the day she retires there permanently.

Full article here

(I usually avoid posting any articles about the poisonous half-termer – and I know most of you hate even seeing her name mentioned here – but I reckoned Michael Tomasky’s piece was worth reading)


Meanwhile, I just saw this line on Time: “On CNBC, Texas Rep. Ron Paul says he no longer feels like a Republican outsider, difference is “night and day” compared to previous run.” That says it all about the current GOP.

95 Responses to “‘the abyss of reactionary sloganeering’”

  1. May 31, 2011 at 9:01 am

    In defense of Palin, she’s not the only lying race baiting moronic scumbag in the party. Fire alarms need to be going off for every Republican candidate.

  2. 2 Fred
    May 31, 2011 at 9:08 am

    “I ache for the day she retires there permanently.”

    oh gawd so do I Mr Tomasky;so do I

  3. 3 mtmarilyn
    May 31, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Good morning wonderful Chips and TOD family. We had a wonderful dinner with 3 Vietnam Vets last night. All are Obama supporters so great dinner conversation. I so enjoyed reading all the comments from yesterday. The Presidents speech was spot on and Gates was so great to hear.

    I don’t listen to any new or any pundits anymore. I hate all the continual lies. I do worry about all the Repubs spewing hate during their campaign. I do trust the Obama campaign to stay on top as much as they can.

    I look forward to all info today. Very glad it won’t be about an Obama event. So glad he gets a day at home. What does the rest of the week look like? Does anyone know?

    • 4 Fred
      May 31, 2011 at 9:47 am

      morning Go and MTM 🙂

    • 5 theo67
      May 31, 2011 at 12:15 pm

      I believe he still has meetings in the Oval Office today, but he’s just doing it all behind closed doors. Working still. Looks like that’s what he’ll do on Wednesday and Thursday, too, and then to Ohio on Friday. This was the schedule I saw last week for this week:

      Schedule for the Week of May 30, 2011

      On Tuesday, the President will meet with the House Republican Conference at the White House.

      On Wednesday, the President will meet with the House Democratic Caucus at the White House.

      On Thursday, the President will attend meetings at the White House.

      On Friday, the President will visit a Chrysler plant in the Toledo, Ohio, area.

  4. 6 donna dem 4 obama
    May 31, 2011 at 9:48 am

    I posted this at the end of the last thread. Reposting. (Sorry its long but it took more words than normal to get my opinon out)

    The media does what it does because they get little to no push-back for their actions. I didn’t see the Today show but I would love it if every Obama supporter could blast them with emails, tweets and calls about what took place this morning. They may be Corp Owned but we have People Power. The thing that I have admired so much about what took place in Wisconsin is that the folks in that state are not taking the malfeasance of Walker lying down. They protest, they call, they follow that man around from event to event letting him know that they are not going away. We Obama supporters have to start following that same example and stop being enablers of our lousy, sloppy media.

    Wouldn’t it be great if we could form a media bomb team that goes after them in mass numbers to make them accountable to us (the viewers). They only do what they think they can get away with and so far they have been allowed to get away with whatever they want. Trump became a front runner (as ridiculous as he was) because the media put him there. Mark my word that after this little bus scam show SP will skyrocket to the front because the media will put her there. I take EVERY Republican candidate serious (even the quitter). This is a fickle, impatient, media driven society we live in and after last November nothing would surprise me. I know there is a lot of buyers remorse out there right now but how could people have been so easily swayed in less than years? It happened because the media did not focus on the polices that the Obama administration put into place to help them through an awful economic collapse. Instead the media covered tea party rallies and health care reform townhalls. They even took to calling the Health Care Reform bill Obamacare. So they gave the public especially the swing voters the impression that the Obama administration was not doing things that benefited the average person so they bolted to the Right.

    I just feel as though Dems leave far too much of the push back on President Obama’s shoulders and not enough surrogates saturate the media with their side of any story. There is no way that if the Repubs were in charge that they would let the Sunday Talk shows to skew Left every week. They would stomp their feet and complain to make sure every show was equal or leaned in their direction. This past week there were three Dems and eight Repubs on NBC, ABC, CBS and FOX. This basically happens every weekend. We have to stop this.

    • 7 EDP4BHO
      May 31, 2011 at 10:00 am

      So true Donna. I said after mid-terms, we HAVE to fight fire with fire. Write, call, email, tweet….whatever it takes and whenever there are lies and dis-information on Dems. Also, I’ve decided the DCCC will get no donations from me until the collective representation learn to fight and not leave every battle up to PBO. Only President Obama directly gets my funds, until such time as I see a united force to counter the filth and evil of that other party. I believe if we send that UNITED message to Dems in the House and Senate, then and only then will they get off their indecisive behinds and become a real Dem backlash. Let em know we see them and we are not playing.

      • 8 Fred
        May 31, 2011 at 10:05 am

        apparently Plouffe has created a rapid response team or site or something that made the folks at FOX very angry 😆

        if anyone can find it or contact the site and add this link on this very site if Chip wants to of course;it will help a great deal if we can stay on top of lies so that things can be made easier for the President’s campaign and the DNC

        • 9 donna dem 4 obama
          May 31, 2011 at 10:24 am

          Sorry its a HuffNPuff piece but this gives the details about this new online rapid response position. I just hope it is comprehensive. I want more surrogates on tv as well as trying to get the Dems to use a consistent message that resonates with the public. The President own website for reelection has no picture, no information about his accomplishments, no place for people to view his stances on issues. There has to be a better job of promoting President Obama. Also, somebody needs to call a meeting with Congress members to let them know that during an election year we just cannot have them going on these shows undermining the President. If they have issues with anything the President does they need to take it directly to him not the talking heads. We’ll have enough to deal with from the nuts on the right. We shouldn’t have to be defending the President to those on the Left.


      • 14 bjw2
        May 31, 2011 at 10:19 am

        Those are sentiments exactly. I stated on another thread that I will only donate to OFA until these Dems in hiding come from beneath their hiding places.

        They ran away from him in 2010 and some didn’t even want him to come to their districts to campaign for them, but because they know that he has long coat tails come 2012 they will try to attach themselves like glue.

    • 15 meta
      May 31, 2011 at 10:14 am

      I endorse your words 1000%. It just takes a few minutes to hit back on these people hard. Let’s pay attention to who and where this stuff is being promulgated and who sponsors their dreck. Let’s get moving.

      I don’t watch any of the morning or Sunday shows or cable, so I pick up the drift from the web. I am glad to join a media bomb whenever it’s clear we need to set the record straight, which is all day everyday.

      Regarding the Today Show (Toady Show?) and Jamie Gangel, here is the contact info I could find:

      Email: today@nbc.com

      Twitter: @jamiegangel

    • 17 Lovepolitics2008
      May 31, 2011 at 10:22 am

      I TOTALLY agree with you. I can understand that President Obama and his team have chosen to play for the long game and avoid being caught in the traps of the 24 news cycle. However, I think they’ve been a bit too strict about this strategy. When you allow some bad narratives to take root, the supporters who are in the field have to spend a lot of energy in debunking myths instead of promoting the progressive agenda.

      There HAS to be a pushback against the MSM. They are even worse than two-three years ago and I didn’t think it was possible for them to go lower.

      The Sunday morning shows are a good place to start. Many dismiss those shows because “very few” watch them. It may be true that not a lot of voters watch them but political junkies do and THE BELTWAY, the DC political folks do watch them. And those are the people who create narratives for the general public. For the record, when some “pundits” don’t push back against republican talking points, I don’t think it’s necessarily because they are dishonest; I think that in many occasions it’s because those pundits are totally IGNORANT about economics and foreign policy. So there is a SERIOUS need for democrats to be very present and forceful in the DC media environment; the “pundits” may learn a thing or two.

      Either the MSM has to find some balance back, or the general public has to be made aware that what they receive as information is CRAP, and that the media environment is enabling the corporate agenda and the republican agenda.

    • 18 africa
      May 31, 2011 at 10:56 am

      Thanks, Donna. I have long believed this and have said so over and again. Until we make our voices heard, these media folks will continue to spread their lies. I for one am ready to be a part of that team to take on this bunch. On a personal level, I have written several of these news folks to voice my concern about issues they make up, lie about or just don’t do their homework on. But I do believe that collectively, we can make a big impact as you have stated.

      Long time ago, my father told me that people will only treat you the way they do if you give them permission to. We have to start pushing back on these guys in record numbers. If I was tech savvy, I would compile their misstatements regularly in a video and send it to them and all their competitors.

      Really, it is time we work as a group to take on these guys.

  5. 19 Mae who love our CIC
    May 31, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Sister Sarah’s lies will consume her. It is a matter of time. Do not fret because of evil doers because they will soon be chopped down. She is a mean hateful woman. Just like she did in 2008 said that President Obama was palling around with terrorist. She is very aware of what she is doing. She thought that our President would not push back against her because she is a white woman. She is out there once again talking for the rest of the repugs, spewing the bullshit for them. She is very much aware that she will never hold the office of President or VP. She did not help the ticket in 2008 nor will she ever.

    • 20 EDP4BHO
      May 31, 2011 at 10:06 am

      She’s a piece of shit, and McCain should be held accountable for unloading this garbage on America. Her kind is the real WOMD (weapons of mass destruction). Now, I will go and get another java, and not let my spirit be touched by the likes of that she-devil. One more thing, I think she has got to be one of the worse mothers in the world, what with young impressionable children, and a special needs child. Where does she find the time to care for that child? She would have been better not having children, when I think of all the people who want to and cannot bear children. It’s a damn disgrace, and for that alone, she should never be a consideration for any office.

      • 21 meta
        May 31, 2011 at 10:16 am

        Well, from I’m reading, McCain just doubled down on her, saying she could beat PBO. This is such a disturbed man, insulting Americans with this drivel as if we think he’s still relevant. UGH.

      • 24 UT Austin Liberal
        May 31, 2011 at 10:20 am

        Thank you EDP4BHO. Everytime I see McCain I just want to smack him something silly. If not for him, this vile, rank, stupid, cancerous, waste of space and time and disgusting filth would not have been wreaked on America. His 2008 slogan was “Country First.” What a CROCK! He should forever be ASHAMED of himself for this injustice.

  6. 25 Me4obama
    May 31, 2011 at 10:00 am

    No word can describe how I feel about that woman.

  7. 26 UT Austin Liberal
    May 31, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Tomasky is right. Palin is poisonous and toxic. She is like cancer. It metastizes and infects all organs. Yes she may be lol funny and just plain ridiculous, but the way the media follow her is dangerous. All repub candidates are dangerous. They infect the airwaves with their lies and filth and the MSM just eat it up and NEVER hold their feet to the fire! Yet they pile on PBO like leeches when he sneezes – ooh why did he sneeze, was it a big sneeze, was it a small sneeze, did he sneeze into a hanky, did he share the sneeze around like socialism, what was the color of the sneeze? 🙄

      • 28 Me4obama
        May 31, 2011 at 10:15 am

        UT, am LMAO girl, CNN has a freaking Express Bus following that moron. What a shame! They look foolish than her if that’s even possible.

    • 29 meta
      May 31, 2011 at 10:16 am

      Did he think that sneeze or feel that sneeze?

      • 30 UT Austin Liberal
        May 31, 2011 at 10:27 am

        Oh yeah meta, thanks for adding more, it’s like a game 😆 Did he ponder that sneeze, did he show warmth before he sneezed, was his sneeze humorous, was his sneeze aloof, was his sneeze professorial, was his sneeze cerebral, did his sneeze shoot a 3 pointer, was his sneeze about 6ft tall, was his sneeze black enough, was his sneeze too black? 🙄

        • 31 bjw2
          May 31, 2011 at 10:34 am

          Was the sneeze presidential or was it too Chicagoan.

          • 32 meta
            May 31, 2011 at 10:36 am

            Gansta Thug Sneeze.

          • 35 UT Austin Liberal
            May 31, 2011 at 10:43 am

            Welcome to the game bjw2. Did his sneeze jump the gun, was his sneeze too impulsive, did his sneeze have a long form birth certificate, did his sneeze have a short form birth certificate, did his sneeze appeal to young voters, will black people come out and vote for his sneeze, will white people come out and vote for his sneeze, will hispanics come out and vote for his sneeze, does his sneeze carry weight in the swing states, does his sneeze appeal to the middleclass, does his sneeze alienate wall street, did his sneeze like the pint of Guiness in Moneygall or was his sneeze faking?

        • 40 meta
          May 31, 2011 at 10:35 am

          Was it a corporate sneeze or a communist sneeze or a terrorist sneeze? Did the sneeze appeal to people in the rust belt? Did he sneeze unilaterally? Why is he sneezing in defiance of the constitution? Why is it taking him so long to sneeze?

        • 43 bjw2
          May 31, 2011 at 10:39 am

          Was his sneeze uppity with a flare of arrogance?

    • 45 donna dem 4 obama
      May 31, 2011 at 10:49 am

      Did his sneeze show any empathy. Did it emote. LOL!!!

      • 46 meta
        May 31, 2011 at 11:00 am

        Why can’t he sneeze like a real American?

      • 47 bjw2
        May 31, 2011 at 11:06 am

        Is his sneeze a reflection of too much golfing, or did he catch the sneeze from too much world traveling paid for with my tax dollars…LMAO!

        • 48 UT Austin Liberal
          May 31, 2011 at 11:23 am

          Does his sneeze have Mau Mau tendencies, is his sneeze too foreign, is his sneeze christian enough, does his sneeze go to church every sunday, is his sneeze liberal enough, is his sneeze too liberal, is his sneeze Reagan like or Clinton like, does his sneeze vacation all the time, why is his sneeze not wearing a suit in the Oval Office.

    • 53 meta
      May 31, 2011 at 11:13 am

      I want a T-shirt with The Sneeze!!

    • 57 Betsey
      May 31, 2011 at 1:50 pm

      LOL at you all! Great lunch break.

  8. 58 FiredUpInCA
    May 31, 2011 at 10:15 am

    “Sister Sarah’s lies will consume her. It is a matter of time.”

    It is very frustrating to wait as she is well beyond her 15 minutes of fame allotment. I draw hope from the fact that Glenn Beck seemed as if he would never go away and yet for the most part he has. It looked like as if Donald Trump’s joke candidacy would haunt us until 2012, instead he became the butt of the President’s jokes and the head writer for Saturday Night Live. The more she appears, the less the country likes her. Like her previous running mate John McCain, her hardcore fan base is the media. We will have to put up with her until they get bored with her. It will take time, but they will get bored with her and she will end up on the Giuliani media markdown rack.

    • 59 theo67
      May 31, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      After her heartless fake address after the Tuscon tragedy, the media should be ashamed to show even a lock of her hair. It’s an insult to decent people.

  9. 60 hopefruit2
    May 31, 2011 at 10:49 am

    CNN and FOX news are peddling Sarah, but the local folks aren’t buying. I just checked out the headlines for the local Alaska (Anchorage)newspaper headlines, and saw that out of the 50 headlines between Friday and Today (may 27th-31st), ONLY 3 headlines were about Palin and her silly bus trek. The most recent of the three headlines was somewhat snide: “Palin’s bus tour leaves Washington – but for where?” And the comments that followed were even more negative towards Palin. Here are some examples of typical comments:

    “This story is boring. Sara is boring. Now for other stories, what’s Mitt, Newt, Michelle and Pawenty have to say?? Oh yeah, guess who has a 54% approval rating this am. Certainly aint the boring bus lady.”

    “The dumbing down of America continues in full force as long as Sarah Palin scurries about our country, along with her megaphone accomplice–Fox News in tow. She, and her bus are going nowhere. She’s nothing more than wannabe; a has been who never was, nor, ever will be. There is no there there with Sarah Palin, nor intelligent thought process whatsoever, sounding much like a nincompoop, over, and over, again.She has become increasingly, completely non-sensical, in her itterations and her behavior; illiterate, grade school tweeterings and facebook postings, come to mind. The dumbing down of America continues, brought to all intelligent thinking Americans by the Republican Party and their choice for President in 2008, John McCain: he foisted this buffoon upon us with no care nor concern for the American people. Sarah Palin doesn’t know how to govern anything–much less our country; she has no sense of vicissitudes and the intellectual complexity of disciplined, contemplative thought process needed in a leader; quite frankly, she couldn’t talk her way out of a paper bag in any intelligent discussuion. On anything; she’s aboard the Bus to Nowhere.
    President Obama 2012!”

    ” Let’s hope the bus make a decades-long stop in AZ and NEVER finds its way to Alaska!”

    “Please Lord, keep her away from the military bases. We don’t need her kind of patriotism fouling up our lives.”

    Read more: http://www.adn.com/2011/05/30/1890578/palin-bus-tour-leaves-washington.html#disqus_thread#ixzz1NwRT635K

    • 61 Me4obama
      May 31, 2011 at 11:00 am

      Good read hopefruit2. I have tuned out all the “news” channels until hardball and lat word. I can hardly contain my amger for that woman especially when am working.

    • 62 theo67
      May 31, 2011 at 12:26 pm

      I like the phrase “bus to nowhere”. Very apropos.

  10. 63 meta
    May 31, 2011 at 10:58 am


    President Obama will make a personnel announcement in the Rose Garden at 1:15 PM today.

    Wonder what’s up?

    • 64 meta
      May 31, 2011 at 11:07 am


      PBO will announce his intention to nominate John Bryson to be Secretary of Commerce to succeed Gary Locke.

    • 66 UT Austin Liberal
      May 31, 2011 at 11:14 am

      Thanks for the heads up meta. I have no clue what’s up.

      May 31, 2011 at 11:19 am


  11. 70 donna dem 4 obama
    May 31, 2011 at 11:03 am

    CNN will be hosting that Tea Party Republican Presidential Debate this year which is why they continue to sniff after that woman. They want high ratings for that debate so they are doing everything possible to keep her and her followers (the teaparty) relevant. Its deplorable IMO. Can you imagine them hosting a debate with MoveON. Hell to the No!


    • 71 meta
      May 31, 2011 at 11:10 am

      OMG, that explains A LOT. CNN is a pathetic joke. First they inflate a loudmouthed sad little “party” and then they have to keep up the charade by hosting a debate? I can only imagine the kinds of questions these fools will be answering. I hope their ratings sink like a stone. FAIL.

        May 31, 2011 at 11:21 am


  12. 73 Carolyn
    May 31, 2011 at 11:05 am

    All those who wrote about pushing back, I agree 100%. After PBO was elected, it was as if the Democrats leaned back and said “Phew!” He’s made it, we can relax…..how WRONG they were! I have been writing various news organizations when I am disgusted with their coverage. I wrote both NBC and CBS about their teeny coverage of the President in England and France. I will continue to write, and we do need to make noise. I also think we should push Democratic Senators to speak up forcefully. My two Senators, Coburn and Inhofe are jokes, but there are some Democratic Senators and Governors who could speak up loudly. Also, Debbie W-S at the DNC should be strongly encouraged to get our people on the Sunday morning shows.

    Will the press ever wake up that they are being rolled by Sarah? I wish Keith Olbermann was still on….he would really be taking on “Sister Sarah” as he called her. Lawrence O’Donnell will, I am sure, but we need more. As we all know, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. We need to be a loud squeaky wheel!

    Right now the Democratic Governors are doing good things in their states….Illinois, Maryland,and they should get voices on the news and talk shows.

    • 74 donna dem 4 obama
      May 31, 2011 at 11:29 am

      The problem with Keith O (I’m not fan) and many of the other Progressive talking heads is that they are preaching to the choir. They say things that make us progressives feel good (most or some of the times) but their messages don’t reach middle America. I watch clips of the evening news online each evening to see how they present stories regarding the President, his policies or his administration. It is normally flat but if there is something negative to say about PBO then the story is presented with more juice. Look, I understand that controversy sells but the media has an obligation to the public and they must present PBO’s story with facts so the public can make an informed decision. They have all become stenographers rather than reporting journalist.

      Just watch this clip of my Governor Martin O’Malley on Morning Joke a few weeks ago. We need more of this but he cannot do it alone….


      • 75 Walking on Sunshine
        May 31, 2011 at 8:37 pm

        That is a great Governor you’ve got there. I would like to see a lot more of him on TV. He didn’t let one talking point go unanswered and stayed calm and reasonable throughout. Thanks for posting that.

  13. 76 Fred
    May 31, 2011 at 11:15 am

    problem is the DemoWIMPS expect the President to do all the fighting for them while they sit on their collective asses and whine and bitch and moan and insult the President;yet when their asses are in trouble;he’ll be the one running all over the goddamn country working once again to save their balls and make $ for them

    • 77 africa
      May 31, 2011 at 11:27 am

      Yes. I have a difficult time with these Dems. It is as if everyone expects the president to be a superman and fix everything. Then they pick every chance they can to bash him, and this has gone one for a while.

      They complained about healthcare, the bush taxes, etc., yet some did nothing. They wanted PBO to wave a magic wan and fix everything. The president has some in his own party yapping at his heels, some of the hate-filled opposition wants him fail, simple as that. But against all odds, he continues to survive.

      Freaking amazing. He continues to inspire me.

      • 78 Fred
        May 31, 2011 at 2:00 pm

        I won’t forgive Harry Reid anytime soon for what he did about the President’s speech at AIPAC;Hoyer too is in my doghouse.Two fackers these 2 😡

  14. 79 meta
    May 31, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Some info on PBO’s pick to replace Gary Locke:

    Bryson is a retired CEO of Edison International. He is 67, has a green background (ruh-oh) is a co-founder of the Natural Resources Defense Council and was President of the California Public Utilities Commission. He’s a trustee of the California Institute of Technology and co-Chair of the Pacific Council on International Policy. He serves or has served on a number of educational, environmental, and other nonprofit boards, including his tenure as chairman of the California Business Roundtable and as a trustee of Stanford University. He now serves on corporate boards including Walt Disney and Boeing. Mr. Bryson is a graduate of Stanford University and Yale Law School.

    • 80 UT Austin Liberal
      May 31, 2011 at 11:34 am

      Thanks for the background info meta. Watch the repug heads explode b/c of his green background.

  15. 81 meta
    May 31, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Sending these folks MASSIVE MOJO and love vibes today:

    Obama 2012 National Finance Committee meeting in Chicago today
    WASHINGTON–President Obama’s best fund-raisers–members of his National Finance Committee–are meeting in Chicago today and tomorrow to map strategy to raise north of $750 million for his re-election bid. Chicago business mogul Penny Pritzker, who chaired Obama’s 2008 fund-raising drive, is hosting a dinner tonight, which Mayor Rahm Emanuel is expected to attend. Campaign manager Jim Messina and deputy campaign manager Julianna Smoot–who oversees 2012 Obama fund-raising will be huddling with the NFC members.

    4 More For 44

    • 82 donna dem 4 obama
      May 31, 2011 at 11:46 am

      Sending positive vibes to the finance committee. They can start with working out the bugs on the fundraiser pages 😦

    • 84 UT Austin Liberal
      May 31, 2011 at 11:51 am

      Oh I remember Penny Pritzker from 2008. She was good for the Obama campaign. She mapped out great fundraising tools in 2008 and Yes they will be successful for 2012.
      Woo! I’m excited. Right behind you meta: 4 More For 44 🙂

  16. 85 donna dem 4 obama
    May 31, 2011 at 11:51 am

    EXCLUSIVE: BOXER, CASEY TO GEITHNER: STOP LAWMAKER PAY IN CASE OF DEFAULT Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Bob Casey (D-Pa.) are sending a letter this morning to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner asking him to stop paying members of Congress if the nation defaults on its debt obligations. Boxer had similar demands in the case of a government shutdown, and the Senate passed her bill that attempted to make that law. Here is the bulk of the letter

    Read it here: http://www.politico.com/huddle/

    • 86 UT Austin Liberal
      May 31, 2011 at 11:56 am

      Good. If they don’t raise the debt ceiling and let the U.S default then they shouldn’t be paid. Medicare recipients will be affected, govt workers will be affected, govt agencies that provide info and help for everyone in the country will be affected, people in the army will be affected. So yep; I second that motion.

    • 87 theo67
      May 31, 2011 at 12:30 pm

      Seems like common sense, to me.

    • 88 VC prezOfan2
      May 31, 2011 at 8:11 pm



    May 31, 2011 at 12:11 pm


  18. 90 cat48
    May 31, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Ok, Ron Paul, where are my legal, illicit drugs?? This is the saddest news I’ve heard in a long time. He no longer feels like an “outsider”! Lord, help us all. We must win back control of everything or the economy will never recover.

    • 91 theo67
      May 31, 2011 at 12:35 pm

      Yes, we need to send the message to these loonies on the right that their brand of “party”, their priorities and tactics, their moral-less and value-less visions of society – all that doesn’t belong here.

      Just look at how people responded to the crisis in Joplin. People drove all night to help their fellow man. Look at the woman who spoke up at a town hall meeting and told the republicans when they tried to sell them on the Ryan plan by saying that her Medicare would be exempted because she’s already on it: “you are assuming that I don’t care about my children and grandchildren”. Look at even the right wing bikers who blocked the Westboro people from offending the Joplin mourners this week with their particular brand of evil – even though I don’t agree with their statements emphasizing that they weren’t there for President Obama, they WERE there for their Joplin neighbors.

      Hate consumes itself, and eventually burns out. It leaves a lot of destruction, but it eventually burns out. I think we’re starting to see that, but I agree with Tomasky that palin plans to make that final burn as destructive as possible. These “bold and courageous” republican candidates can’t even reign her in anymore. And it looks like CNN and FOX want to have front row seats, even if they get burned in the process.

  19. 92 HZ
    May 31, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Theo67, you are so right in your comments. I remember when the children would come into my classroom filled with so much hate that it was so painful to see them try to destroy the beauty of my hard work and that of their classmates. So what I decided was rather than have them destroy the lovely setting that I had built for all of us to live in each and everyday, I stopped them dead in their tracks by: (1) having them sit down and be quiet first. (2) I laid out my “tray of love” before them to look upon. On this tray I had large beautiful words on display cards, and I read them out aloud. (3) I had them look around the room and their desk to see how I had given our room environment beauty for learning. (4) I stood at the door and had them listen as I spoke about the “tray of love.” The reason I went to the door was simply to point to the colorful sign that I had decorated the door with: “Enter This Room With Pride, Love, Hope, Happiness, and Peace.” Now I proceeded to speak about what those expectations meant to me first. Then I had them to write down one word for each word in that sign that was very special to them. I presented a very short lesson each day for 2 weeks from that sign. I had a visual in the first day’s lesson that was a stack of bricks. After my lesson, I knocked the bricks down. The students were silent.(like she has gone off the bridge.) I told them:” We can keep this beautiful room that we will live in for 8 weeks or we can tear it down, but NOT as long as I am the teacher in room _________. Then I slowly placed the bricks back in the attractive manner in which they were before I knocked them down. It was complete silence in the room.
    I asked them what they were feeling. No one said a word. Fine. I then said,”This is our home for 8 weeks and we can choose to live in it with pride, love, hope, happiness,and peace by building on this lovely display of bricks(the words were also painted on these bricks) or you can choose to go to the front office by Wed., and check out of my class. Why, because I’ve invested too much pride in making this environmentlovely for you to learnin;poured tons of love into each lesson plan; heart full of happiness, no matter what; and lastly, I will never teach in a room that is not peaceful for me. And becauseof these statements, I will not allow not one of you to bring into my presence or your classmates’ presence your bitterness, destructive attitudes, and inappropriate learning attitudes.This is our home for 55 minutes, and we will live as a loving, hard working family who respects the joys of life so we may move on into the world to brighten it for many to follow us. I gave each a loving hug as they were dismissed for the day,and said,”I love you,, and you are now an important part of this family. I’ll see you tomorrow.” (no one checked out) My story: Our beloved President has prepared himself for 20 plus years believing that he would some day change the world, and he has stood tall to his beliefs. No one, SP and the entire bunch WILL NOT burn down the future that he is trying to build for you young people and old alike. We will not check out of his classroom, Not Now. We will go on and build on the bricks that he has laid before us. We must. I am counting on my dear loving(most of you are old enough to be my dear daughters and sons) sons and daughters to pledge to help him build up this country, and not listen to the ugly demons within the noise of those spewing hatred and divisiveness each day in our country. He is a strong leader and he told us on our first day in his classroom what is expected of each of us. So let us move with our beautiful and intelligent President and change the world. We will not tolerate the bullying. Love you all so much.

    • 93 UT Austin Liberal
      June 1, 2011 at 12:11 am

      Thank you sooo much for this HZ and all your years of hardwork in the education system and in spreading peace and love. Your words are always beautifully written and gladden my heart. They give me hope that we can make people see the light about our wonderful President; one heart at a tme.

      • 94 UT Austin Liberal
        June 1, 2011 at 12:12 am

        Haha.. that should be… one heart at a time. 🙂

        • 95 HZ
          June 1, 2011 at 1:30 am

          Oh, yes UT Austin Liberal, “one heart at a time.” So beautifully stated. Thank you for that thought. I will pray those words,”one heart at a time.”

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