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the aipac speech

President Barack Obama arrives to speak at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) convention in Washington, May 22

White House video:

*** Text of address here ***

Jeffrey Goldberg (The Atlantic): President Obama gave a very good speech to AIPAC: Tough on Hamas, tough on Iran, but also somewhat tough on Israeli procrastination.

He understands Israel’s dilemma in the same way Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert, Ehud Barak, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin understood their country’s dilemma. Israel needs to find a way to maintain its democratic nature and its Jewish majority.

Only compromise on the West Bank — yes, a return to 1967 borders, with some obvious adjustments (and the President was much more clear today than he was on Thursday on what the term “land-swap” means) will help Israel maintain itself as a Jewish democracy, and will protect it from becoming an international pariah.

And by the way, Israel’s biggest and most effective defender on the international stage in the coming months will be… Barack Obama. He made that crystal-clear. He opposes the unilateral bid for Palestinian independence in a very forthright way. Now it is up to Prime Minister Netanyahu to listen to Israel’s friend in the White House.

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‘A Proud Day For Obama’

Josh Marshall (TPM): Sticks to commitment to policies that will secure Israel’s future, even at the expense of opportunistic attacks and political controversy.

Obliquely and with respect to his audience, in his speech to AIPAC today, President Obama also responded to Prime Minister Netanyahu’s repeated lies about what President Obama said only the day before.

Just as no man is an island, no country can be either. On its present course Israel is on its way to becoming a pariah state, a status in which it cannot indefinitely or even perhaps long survive…..

….Netanyahu believes that US power is forever and that the US political consensus to support Israel in almost any policy choice it makes will never change. So he can simply ignore the currents of history and international affairs and thumb his nose at every other country in the world. But neither is true.

…The occupation itself represents the true existential threat to Israel. Most who don’t have a profound and over-riding ideological commitment to maintaining a state in all of historic Palestine get this. That’s why even someone like Tzipi Livni, a former member of the Likud and someone from a Revisionist family, realized that partition is the only viable path forward.

For me this is the key issue. Justice, peace … you don’t even need to get to those agenda items. The simple reality is that Israel needs partition for its survival, more really than any of the other parties to the controversy.

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283 Responses to “the aipac speech”


  1. 1 lisalovesobama
    May 22, 2011 at 10:39 am

    is anybody else watching Steny Hoyer sucking up to AIPAC. This guy is piece of work.

    • 2 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 10:44 am

      I’m watching and it’s completely disgusting. Why is he up there anyway? I kind of wish the President wasn’t doing this speech today – there’s too much bad karma in that room.

      • 3 UT Austin Liberal
        May 22, 2011 at 10:47 am

        I’m watching also and my goodness Steny. It’s so disgusting. He talked about meeting with no pre-conditions, talked about Israel not backing down and there should be no compromise. And that they should not listen to any govt. who outlines solutions for them. Gosh Steny, how much are they paying you?

    • 4 halo
      May 22, 2011 at 10:47 am

      He just knee-capped the President. Disgusting.

    • 5 anniebella
      May 22, 2011 at 11:56 am

      I listen to alittle bit of Steny Hoyer, but I got tired of him. So I just waited for the grown up to come speak…..President Barack Obama. As I have said before, a real friend will tell you things you may not want to hear, but they do it because they love you. A real friend is not someone who says only what you want to hear. A real friend will tell you the God honest truth. And they will stand by you if someone try to hurt you. That is what the President is trying to do. He is not trying to be like Rep. Hoyer and the Republicans, sucking up to Israel, doing and saying only what Israel want to hear. I listen to President Obama, and I was so glad when he told those people what he said in the Thursday speech, not what people or the media said he said. We all remember AP. And what he said to Israel Prime Minister when they met. What the President said about the 1967 border issue was nothing new,other admistrations have used that as a guideline. But this is up to Israel and Palestine, no one can make them do anything they don’t want to do. It’s in their hands. But today, I am proud of our President. Once again showing me why I voted for him in 2008 and will again in 2012!!!!! May God keep him and the First Lady safe on their travel.

  2. 6 ber6964
    May 22, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Ya! It’s rather sickening!

  3. 8 theo67
    May 22, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Steny Hoyer just said “we will not fund a government that will not recognize previous agreement and will not recognize the state of Israel”. So, the agreement they want to recognize is the “Bush letter” and not the 1967 border lines? What a bunch of hypocrites. Too bad they weren’t raptured yesterday.

    • 9 UT Austin Liberal
      May 22, 2011 at 10:52 am

      It’s so disgusting Theo. They don’t seem to realize that the 1967 borders is a good place for discussion to begin. Flashing on cspan tv screen: Netanyahu is going to be speaking to Congress on Monday May 23, 2011 at 11:00am ET/10am CT/8am PT and then AIPAC also invited him to speak on Monday May 23, 2011 at 8:45pm ET/7:45pmCT/5:45pmPT. Let the whining and bitching begin.

      • 10 anniebella
        May 22, 2011 at 12:03 pm

        The only one I wanted to hear from, well I heard him today. I don’t plan to listen to Netanyahu either time. The Democrats have not supported this President and I am getting so fed up with them. Rep. Hoyer will be getting an email from me today.

      • 11 Nellcote
        May 22, 2011 at 6:39 pm

        I think it’s disgusting that Boner invited Bibi to speak to Congress while Prez Obama is out of the country.

  4. 12 Walking on Sunshine
    May 22, 2011 at 10:46 am

    I wish he would just shut up and get off the stage. Waiting for the President. Why the hey does this group have so much power?

  5. 13 Roberta in MN
    May 22, 2011 at 10:49 am

    He is such a hypocrite, It’s not like Isreal has respectected other nations. But most of the people that are doing the settlements are former US citizens, and you know how America got their land grab.
    It sounded like Steny was undermining President Obama. What a piece of shite.
    Roberta

    • 14 hopefruit2
      May 22, 2011 at 10:54 am

      Not to worry Roberta. Soon President Obama will have him sitting and sulking in the “naughty corner” like Nut n Yahoo, and all the rest of them. They will soon get a heaping tablespoon of STFU from the only adult in the room. Just wait and see.

  6. 16 theo67
    May 22, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Is this guy trying to lecture the President?

  7. 18 globalcitizenlinda
    May 22, 2011 at 10:56 am

    I think we need to let Bibi, AIPAC, and Steny Hoyer know that they should not insult President Obama.

  8. 19 meta
    May 22, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Great welcome for our President!!

  9. 20 Proud of Obama
    May 22, 2011 at 10:58 am

    I had to put that fool on mute. Great reception for PBO. And boy is he looking GOOD!

    • 21 UT Austin Liberal
      May 22, 2011 at 11:00 am

      Did you see PBO’s face when he said Steny Hoyer’s name?… It was like “hmmm…. I’ve got your number buddy”

      • 22 meta
        May 22, 2011 at 11:03 am

        I suppose they worked through their differences but Hoyer also opposed my Rep. Nancy Smash Pelosi back in the day as she rose through the ranks. She of course didn’t let him stand in her way.

    • 23 meta
      May 22, 2011 at 11:01 am

      Love the new tie. Sigh.

  10. 24 UT Austin Liberal
    May 22, 2011 at 10:59 am

    I hate how a lot of people in the media, repugs in congress and other repugs and especially the AIPAC seem to feel that Israel should not compromise. These are turbulent times for everyone socially, economically and otherwise. To demand that only Palestine give 100% concessions is childish and frankly bullish. BOTH sides have to come to the table and no one should make impossible demands.

  11. 25 sherijr
    May 22, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Morning all~ just tuned in.. to hear them clap when POTUS said Netanyahu’s name.

  12. 26 TO2012
    May 22, 2011 at 11:01 am

    I want to hear more than about sucking up to Israel Mr President. Get to the meat. Either stand up to 1967 or stand down sir.

    • 27 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 11:04 am

      The President has only just started his speech, so you may want to save your comments to the end. Also, given that the President is the only adult who is speaking legitimately about the path to peace, and who is surrounded by a Congress and media who are working flat out to destroy him and distort his words – you may want to point your challenges in their direction, and show a little more respect to the President.

      • 28 sherijr
        May 22, 2011 at 11:07 am

        Thank YOU Theo.

      • 29 hopefruit2
        May 22, 2011 at 11:09 am

        Exactly. Thank you Theo. In addition to the President, why can’t the Democrats in congress, e.g., Weiner, Schumer, etc STAND UP to 1967? Why must it be ONLY Barack Obama, while the Media, Congressional Repblicans AND Democrats actively undermine him with no accountability????

    • 30 PoliticalJunkessa
      May 22, 2011 at 11:08 am

      Who you?

    • 31 LYNN
      May 22, 2011 at 12:05 pm

      HEY, I THINK YOU NEED TO STAND DOWN….THIS IS PRESIDENT OBAMA HERE…DONT GET THINGS TWISTED NOW!!!

    • May 22, 2011 at 1:36 pm

      TO2012 perhaps its my interpretation of what you just said about MY President that has pissed me off. But it sounds like you have seriously jumped to conclusions about what he hasn’t said yet. And maybe that’s all the exercise you get each day is by “jumping” to conclusions. Perhaps I am out of line from this Gentle thread, Chipsticks, but I think this person should take its opinions and his/her hiney someplace else. We DON’T Trash our President on this site. Sticks, I understand if you don’t allow this one thru.

  13. 33 Marlz
    May 22, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Just tuning in to a lot of applause. . .
    My President will SCHOOL them ALL!!

  14. 34 TO2012
    May 22, 2011 at 11:08 am

    This could be my defining moment …. if the president does not push back I think I must really re-evaluate my continued support. 😦

    • May 22, 2011 at 11:09 am

      It’s completely bizarre, TO, that you’re judging the speech half way through.

      • 36 Marlz
        May 22, 2011 at 11:13 am

        Thank you Chipsticks. . . he has been doing this before the President started.

      • 37 TO2012
        May 22, 2011 at 11:45 am

        No, it is not. Think about it and who I am (at least what you know)
        I am exhausted with frauds. It just appeared from the beginning of this speak the sugar was too much – perhaps a cover for backpedaling.

        If you are not a man of your word I have no respect for you nor any use. I can tolerate many vices ( or alleged ed) but as a former officer, integrity, honor and valor are keenly important as I go about my daily life.

        He stood up for his beliefs and this makes me prouder. But still I say that they day he does not honor that to himself and this country he looses my respect and vote.

        • May 22, 2011 at 11:49 am

          This is all very strange, TO. You seemed to make an assumption before the speech even warmed up that the President was not going to stand up “for his beliefs”. Have you that little faith in him?

        • 39 Sue in Minnesota
          May 22, 2011 at 12:01 pm

          And yet for years you aligned yourself with the Republicans? I understand the exhaustion with frauds….
          but issuing an ultimatum to the President is really extreme. I hope that you learn to trust the President more fully, and also allow him the benefit of your own doubts. And if you find you can’t, than so be it……I’ld be curious as to who you would choose to support otherwise.

          • 40 TO2012
            May 22, 2011 at 12:18 pm

            Sue,

            I respect your opinion , point .

            There are good and great and evil and bad on both sides.

            The far left is just as dangerous as the far right.

            I stand by my ascertain.

            Lee
            PS ( I see no candidates on the GOP bullpen at this time whom I would support. Real or imagined but if I had to I would sit out in protest.)

            • 41 sherijr
              May 22, 2011 at 12:29 pm

              Oh good grief, sitting out in protest? Jeepers thats what the FAR left did in this last election and it got all those fabulous rightwing governors elected. Yeah thats a brilliant strategy.

    • 42 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 11:10 am

      So be it.

    • 43 hopefruit2
      May 22, 2011 at 11:11 am

      Then don’t support him – it’s your choice. I wonder whether you are also issuing similar ultimatums to those in the media, the congressional Republicansu AND DEMOCRATS (Including Weiner & Schumer) who are siding with Netanyahu and making it difficult for the President to negotiate this process???

      • 44 sherijr
        May 22, 2011 at 11:17 am

        Its sickening that they would on any level support Netanyahu over POTUS. Either they’re American or they’re not.

    • 45 sherijr
      May 22, 2011 at 11:29 am

      Push back how? He said exactly what he said in his previous speech. What is different now? And frankly folks who support this President – or don’t support him based on one thing – what is that about? Seriously.. of the myriad jobs this President does, of all the issues he contends with.. how does anyone pick one single issue to throw in the towel on & why? What has he changed?

      I think there are folks who want him to jump out in front of AIPAC and tell them to just shove it- seriously, exactly what is the benefit of that? Who will it help? If folks know nothing about President Obama, they ought to have at least figured out that he is about helping things to become better… that he is looking at and building for the future- for all of us.

      • 46 theo67
        May 22, 2011 at 11:37 am

        Well said, Sheri. If people abandoned each of us because they didn’t agree with one or two things we said or did, without having all the information or taking into consideration all the factors and consequences, we’d be a very sad lot of people, indeed. I don’t take those people seriously.

    • May 22, 2011 at 1:56 pm

      TO2010 Re-evaluate, Re-evaluate until you are blue in the face and then take your s o r r y Vote someplace else perhaps Donald Trump. I know I am not displaying any kind of graciousness but no one is ever the same all the time. Just please don’t get me started about somebody re-evaluating their support of our President. Are you that much a hater of the Jews. Smells like a so-called christians. I do hope this is your defining moment–B Y E~!!!

  15. 49 halo
    May 22, 2011 at 11:11 am

    OBAMA TELLIN THE TRUTH!

    • 50 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 11:13 am

      He is laying it out plainly and simply. Telling them to wake up and smell the coffee… and grow up.

  16. 51 theo67
    May 22, 2011 at 11:14 am

    What’s poor Bibi going to say on Monday after the rug has been pulled from under him?

  17. 53 Marlz
    May 22, 2011 at 11:17 am

    O boy. . .My president has to be teaching the children. . . what does the swap means???
    LOVING IT!!

    • 54 Marlz
      May 22, 2011 at 11:19 am

      Cannot wait another decade or two or three. The world is moving tooo fast!!

    • 55 meta
      May 22, 2011 at 11:20 am

      He is hitting it out of the park!!!! Clarifying everything on his mind for everyone who missed it the first time. Don’t play games, people. BRAVO, Mr. President.

    • 56 lisalovesobama
      May 22, 2011 at 2:54 pm

      swap lands between Palestinians and Israeli’s in order for each to maintain separate, soverign and contiguous states. Because Petty Nettie has allowed for more Jewish settlements on Palestinian lands for example, PBO talked about the West Bank which has increasing Israeli settlements- swaps will have to take place to ensure both states borders and security.

  18. 57 zizi
    May 22, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Could you guys please give some of us bullet points of what he is saying. I’m out of the country without access to the live web or tv broadcasts. Thanks

  19. 64 mtmarilyn
    May 22, 2011 at 11:21 am

    We knew he would tell them the truth. He lays it all on the table. I love this man.

  20. 65 Proud of Obama
    May 22, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Loving it. He’s fearless and brilliant. Take that childish Bibi.

  21. 66 ber6964
    May 22, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Wow!! Like schooling children.

    • 67 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 11:31 am

      Makes them all seem very stupid and small for having had a hissy fit for the past three days. But, I heard a pundit say that he shouldn’t have left the 1967 statement so vague last week, so it was good that he “clarified” it. And on C-Span, they repeated the lie about him saying they should go back the the borders before 1967 – and said he “clarified “it. They’ll never admit their part in the confusion.

      • 68 majii
        May 22, 2011 at 11:56 am

        The MSM, the republicans, and their supporters should cut the BS. If any American doesn’t know about the 1967 statement and/or the Arab-Israeli Peace Accord, it’s their own fault. I taught high school for 33 years, and I taught about these things in world history and U.S. History classes as recently as 2009! The MSM and their hosted pundits and politicians should use the Google function on their computers before insulting the intelligence of those of us who know this information. This is nothing but pure laziness on their part. Maybe they weren’t paying attention when they were in school, but that’s not PBO’s fault, or ours. I am thoroughly disgusted with the failure of average Americans, pundits, politicians, and the MSM to do their homework before opening their mouths and infecting millions of Americans with their ignorance and stupidity.

        • 69 Betsy
          May 22, 2011 at 4:32 pm

          Here, Here. I’m a US History teacher right now, and I applaud your comments. You are so right.

  22. 70 debchemist
    May 22, 2011 at 11:27 am

    The President was brilliant and stuck to his policy.

  23. 72 meta
    May 22, 2011 at 11:30 am

    BAM! We’ve just witnessed right there why no one has the courage to run against our President. He is tough and he is fearless. On his values and on his compassion, he means business.

    • 73 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 11:32 am

      So true – this is another “lions den” that amounted to nothing, and when he left, they were all clamouring for a handshake.

      • 74 M
        May 22, 2011 at 9:36 pm

        I love that comment Theo…”and when he left they were all cosmogony or a handshake.”

        • 75 M
          May 22, 2011 at 9:38 pm

          Oh dread….the iPad auto spellcheck! Clamoring not cosmogony! When I noticed the spelling error I was trying like crazy to stop the comment from being posted, but I was too late!

  24. 77 lisalovesobama
    May 22, 2011 at 11:32 am

    The idiot media is saying that PBO’s speech was conciliatory. What a-holes! It was more look: I’ve done this and that for you, but syou need to shape up and realize what’s going on in the world and take your place. Get with the program!- that’s what I heard PBO say. Idiot media.

    • 78 sherijr
      May 22, 2011 at 11:37 am

      So even after this, after repeating what he said in his previous speech… now their twisting it again to say it’s ‘concilliatory’? They just lie for the sake of lying anymore, whatever they can come up with in an attempt to create controversy, to create enemies for him. The media are nothing but more republicans, period.

    • 81 majii
      May 22, 2011 at 12:01 pm

      Their brains have a built in distortion mechanism when it comes to anything having to do with PBO. It allows them to lie, propagandize, and assist the republicans, without having to feel guilty about it. They have no idea that these attempts to undermine PBO will fail in the end because there are millions of us praying for our president every day. I ask God to let no evil touch him. Many on the right claim to be Christians, but they really don’t know what it means to be a real Christian, and I believe that God answers the prayers of the righteous.

    • 83 anniebella
      May 22, 2011 at 12:16 pm

      No what he was saying is we have been a friend to Israel, and we will “continue” to be a friend to Israel. So if anyone doubt that, you are wrong to doubt that. But a real friend, I mean a real friend, tells you the truth. They tell you things you might not want to hear sometimes. And that is what he is doing for Israel. Bravo to our President.

  25. 85 hopefruit2
    May 22, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Our President has better things to do than waste time with bunch of arrogant fools like netanyahu. Mr. President, it’s time for you to prepare for your trip to Ireland where people are happily waiting for your arrival!

  26. 87 TO2012
    May 22, 2011 at 11:35 am

    i must admit that after hearing the speech from STENY and the presidents opening remarks I saw or assumed it was an effort to walk back his White House speech this past week.

    SOMEHOW the president managed to weave everything together marvelously.

    I respect people who say what they mean and do it. No backpedaling.

    I have admired this man since 2008 and I am not a Democrat. If he had flip flopped in FEAR of APIAC honestly I would not have voted for him in 2012. That is just how I am. C’est la vie.

    • 88 sherijr
      May 22, 2011 at 11:40 am

      thats just how you are? Well America thanks you. Frankly I judge folks on their continued stability- something this President has two plus years of proof on… he doesn’t walk back anything. He thinks before he speaks and he doesn’t put his finger in the the breeze to see which way the wind is blowing. He is rock solid.

      • 89 sherijr
        May 22, 2011 at 11:41 am

        .. and if you’re not a democrat, that means you’re a bit of a flip flop yourself. sorry.

        • 90 TO2012
          May 22, 2011 at 11:47 am

          I am a life long Republican (moderate) and did not support this president until Sarah Palin was rolled out by my home senator as the VP candidate.

          • 91 hopefruit2
            May 22, 2011 at 11:53 am

            Thanks for sharing that with us TO2012. But I’m a tad curious: Do you think that President John McCain and a VP (anyone but Palin) would have stood up to APIAC? Or are your conditions of support different for President Obama?

            I might see where you are coming from and correct me if I’m wrong, but it appears to me that your “support” of this President was based more on a dislike of the Republican platform, rather than an attraction to what this President stands for.

            • 92 TO2012
              May 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm

              You have a valid point.

              • 93 hopefruit2
                May 22, 2011 at 12:25 pm

                I wasn’t making a point. I was asking a question – which you haven’t answered.

                • 94 VC prezOfan2
                  May 22, 2011 at 2:22 pm

                  ‘Or are your conditions of support different for President Obama?’

                  Hopefruit, he DID answer you – before you even asked the question! He admitted to being a life-long supporter of Republicans, those masters of backpedalling. He doesn’t really need to add anything more.

                  OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!

                  • 95 hopefruit2
                    May 22, 2011 at 2:27 pm

                    Ha! So true VC:)

                    • 96 VC prezOfan2
                      May 22, 2011 at 2:42 pm

                      Since every vote counts, hopefully the President will say something to please him the day before the election. πŸ˜‰ In the meantime, IMO, nothing we can add now can, or will, enhance what is ALREADY AN OBVIOUSLY AWESOME TERM OF LEADERSHIP by a man who lives his political INTEGRITY and maturity daily, in the eyes of the entire world!

                      I have said it before, and I’m proud to say it again – NOTHING this President does will EVER change my opinion and support of him. He is my BFF, πŸ˜† πŸ˜† one who has built up so much credibility in our ‘friendship’ over the past couple of years that I’ll forgive him anything from here on out. In the unlikely event I were to need a reason to forgive him, a simple ‘to err is human’ would work for me.

          • 97 globalcitizenlinda
            May 22, 2011 at 11:53 am

            I appreciate people who are not Democrats but take time to listen to the other point of view. One thing I have learned about President Obama is that he is consitent and when you listen directly to what he has said (rather than what the crazy media says he has said) then you can see that he thinks long term about where this country is going and not short term

          • 98 sherijr
            May 22, 2011 at 11:56 am

            Well you get points from me for that, because I am sure it was a big step for you. However, you did change your mind on something, something pretty huge, you voted Democrat. And I commend you for that, for seeing the wisdom of electing the very best person for the job, a job he has proven himself more than capable at time and time again.

            Now when he’s getting heat, when there are powerful folks trying to undermine him- now is the time to decide how committed YOU are. And which republican can replace him… and what will they be doing FOR America? What do they have to offer us that will move us further forward? And as to AIPAC- it’s power, it’s force in American politics will begin to diminish and subside- when we can finally accord some peace to that area- President Obama is being very diligent about just that. But don’t tie his hands any more than the folks in Congress- both dem and republican are attemtpting to do.

    • 99 hopefruit2
      May 22, 2011 at 11:40 am

      Well, experience has taught me to listen to PBO’s speeches in their entirety, not just the beginning or ending. Our President does not have a history of backpedaling for frivolous reasons – that is Romney, Gingrich and McCain’s territory.

    • 100 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 11:46 am

      TO2012 – thanks for taking time to listen to the speech and then revise your earlier comments. However, there is just too much at stake for us to decide to throw in the towel because we don’t hear exactly what we want. That’s a fairly immature and narrow position to take, not only because there is an absence of any viable alternatives, but specifically because this President has carefully thought out his positions and considered all the ramifications and consequences. Who else has advanced the cause of peace in the Middle East that you would hold up as an example of what you think is possible now? What do you think would be the consequence if enough people behaved like you and didn’t vote for this President based on the conditions you laid out? What do you think a Republican president is going to be able to do to bring about peace – because that’s the outcome if President Obama does not get re-elected.

      It takes courage to do what President Obama is doing – especially without support from his own party. He’s actually trying to DO something, not just talk about it and make people feel all warm and cuddly. It’s not enough to say “c’est la vie” – and to declare that that’s just how you are, like that’s a legitimate response to a serious issue. The issues he’s facing are not Democratic or Republican issues – he’s the President of the United States, and he’s dealing with issues that face all Americans, and which impact the entire world.

      The stakes are really just too high for this kind of nonsense.

      • 101 sherijr
        May 22, 2011 at 11:48 am

        Again thank YOU Theo.

      • 102 Gloria Powell
        May 22, 2011 at 11:58 am

        What you said x 1,000 Theo67

      • 103 TO2012
        May 22, 2011 at 11:59 am

        I respect you for that opinion and you are entitled to it.

        I am not a Democrat nor do I have any intent of registering as such. I am a proud twenty-five years life long Republican and DAV. (Third generation on both accounts)

        I supported this president not for DADT or HCR nor any personal agenda. I selected him because he was the best choice and hope for a future.

        Lying and backpedaling is a common trait for the majority of pols — it was my belief that Mr Obama was different that is why I supported him.

        He proved again our nation made the correct choice in 2008 but I will not back down from my statement, if he had backed down and backpedaled I would have ended my support for his administration. He would have in essence proved that they indeed all are the same.

        The issue of Palestine is the most important perhaps of our lifetimes. The world can no longer wait, everything around that region of the world is changing. Alternatively we do no need ONE BILLION people (Muslims) hating us because we a toting water for Israel.

        BTW My grandmother was a french JEWESS so no I am not anti-Semitic.

        Lee

        • May 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm

          “if he had backed down and backpedaled I would have ended my support for his administration.”

          But why did you expect him to back pedal?

          • 105 TO2012
            May 22, 2011 at 12:08 pm

            His opening remarks were long and since he is an attorney by trade – they have a penchant for establishing a narrative – I assumed incorrectly that the narrative was gonna be a BACK-PEDDLE.

            • 106 Proud of Obama
              May 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm

              His opening remarks were long? I’m sorry but that is the most ridiculous excuse for not supporting someone I’ve ever heard.

              Question: How can you continue to support a party that claims to be fiscally responsible yet ran our economy into a ditch and continues to support policies (tax breaks for the wealthy that increase the deficit) that will further hurt the economy?

              How can you be a part of a party that claims to want to fight for unborn children but is willing to cut food from children who are here?

              How can you be part of a party that claims to want to follow the constitution, yet wants to dismantle the parts they don’t like — i.e. civil rights?

              Just curious.

        • 110 sherijr
          May 22, 2011 at 12:06 pm

          You have every right to think and vote anyway you choose, and for whatever reasons. With that said, basically your support is conditional on e v e r y t h i n g. Its all a big test.

          So since thats the case, and your support / vote can be gone at any moment… which of those sure and steady, ever so honorable republicans would you be voting for exactly? Which one of them has been honest – before even actually getting into their own primary? And yet the guy who is President, who has proven every day for two years as President, for a year as a candidate, that he IS honorable… might lose your vote to one of them- at anytime? This is very hard to digest.

          • 111 TO2012
            May 22, 2011 at 12:09 pm

            Stay Tuned. You will understand soon.

            • May 22, 2011 at 12:11 pm

              I’m tuning out TO, sorry!

              • 113 Proud of Obama
                May 22, 2011 at 12:21 pm

                This iks a troll who’s playing games, Chipsticks.

                • May 22, 2011 at 12:29 pm

                  I’m keeping an eye on it, Proud. I’ve no problem at all with people arguing things out on the blog, and I do think TO has been a genuine supporter all along, but this place is about getting some relief from people making hugely negative judgments about the President before he even makes his point! There are dozens of other sites for that kind of stuff. So, yep, I’m watching!

            • 115 sherijr
              May 22, 2011 at 12:14 pm

              I’m afraid I have no understanding for any vote going to even one of those republican candidates. Thankfully I am certain that President Obama will win this next election and I plan to give everything I can to help make that happen.

          • 117 M
            May 22, 2011 at 9:31 pm

            I agree sherijr. I was thinking the same thing? If not PBO, then who in the world would fit the criteria for TO’s vote?

            • 118 sherijr
              May 22, 2011 at 9:42 pm

              πŸ˜‰ I just read on facebook that Sarah Palin has a “fire in her belly to run for President”.. hehe, oh let it be. Nothing I’d love more than to see that knucklehead have to debate President Barack Obama on live teevee.

              • 119 UT Austin Liberal
                May 22, 2011 at 9:45 pm

                Mwahahahahahahaha… Gosh I hope she wins the repub primary if she runs. It will be fun to see her flounder and try to match wits with an actual brainiac…. Pres. Obama.

                Mwahahahahahahahahahahaha…. πŸ˜†

              • 121 M
                May 22, 2011 at 10:21 pm

                Sherijr, a few days ago on TOD post from May 20th titled “a mark of madness” mrs jvd posted a link to a huffington post “fire in the belly” article. Mrs jvd stated the comments section was “hilarious!” I checked out 2 pages of comments there and they really were absolutely hysterical. There are comments along the lines of….”she may have fire in the belly, but she has rocks in the head!” If you feel like laughing go check out the comments there. I have not yet gotten the knack of copying and pasting on my iPad so that is why I am not doing that here to make it easier for you to find.

                Blessing to you!

              • 122 Betsy
                May 23, 2011 at 12:11 am

                I think she’s very dangerous because she is without shame, narcissistic, and has an ability to reach out to a segment of the American population that really supports her. She’s the one to unleash all the racisim we saw in the 2008 campaign that the GOP has not backed away from.

              • 123 theo67
                May 23, 2011 at 12:16 am

                Remember when she debated VP Biden and she declared at the beginning that she wouldn’t answer any actual questions, only tell the American people what she wanted to tell them? Well, the media declared her the winner of that debate.

                The woman is an idiot, and she’s dangerous. And with the media as her willing accomplices, she could very well be the next President. As stupid as she is.

        • 125 Pragmaticadult
          May 22, 2011 at 12:41 pm

          You know what I like and respect what you are saying. This is coming from a HUGE Obama supporter. I think if president Obama had backed off on Israel I would have been majorly disappointed. I like most Jewish people but hate their government. They seriously need to go grow the f up because that issue is enabling wars and hate. Both sides need to come to the table and Israel is not special at all and they are bullies. I am with the rest of the world sick and tired of them. I am coming to the point where I don’t even want to hear their side because they play too much of the victim and dont want to resolve anything. I agree with the president on a lot of issues, Israel won’t stop me from voting for him but I can understand where you are coming from. This bs has been going on for too long and it’s diminishing US standing in the world and giving it a name of hypocrisy. Plus creating a lot of hate that no one needs.

          • 126 lisalovesobama
            May 22, 2011 at 12:48 pm

            I hear what you and TO are saying, BUT PBO has neverf, never, backed off of a fight. He went to that college in Arizona that didn’t want to give him the honorary degree and TALKED about it in his commencement speech there, he went to recieve his Nobel Peace Prize and TALKED about the irony of being in two wars while at the same time preaching peace, this man ALWAYS confronts controversy-or media ginned up problems-completely HEAD ON. Never, lose sight of that.

            • 127 sherijr
              May 22, 2011 at 1:03 pm

              And remember his speech to Notre Dame- wherein he spoke about abortion.

            • 128 Pragmaticadult
              May 22, 2011 at 1:35 pm

              And that’s why I respect him and I look at the whole picture and not at one issue. I also think with israel things are coming to a head. The youth revolution is going to dictate how their governments are doing things. A lot of arab youths are tired of israel, these are the same youth that are trying and will take over their countries. We need their oil and if US does not do anything in regards to standing up to isreal then you can kiss a lot of things goodbye. Isreal should understand this is not the same ME that there are dictators ruling countries and people have no say. The revolution has changed everything. US has power but please Arabs people not the governments just realized they have power too and they aren’t taking it anymore.

      • 129 Puddin'
        May 22, 2011 at 2:01 pm

        Right on Theo67 (and others who share your point of view). As I listened to President Obama in the beginning of his speech I got alittle anxious to hear what I was sure to come. I don’t doubt or worry about President Obama anymore because he has proven time and time again (he got this). I know he may not/will not have all of the answers and he has made some (admittedly) mistakes and surely he will make some more…nobody is perfect and he never said he was. But this president, President Obama has shown us time and time again, his heart, sould and mind is in the right place. In the mist of political crazines…politics as usual, President Obama is rock steady…he is no joke…he ain’t playin’…and I like it…I like this about our president. HE TRULY IS THE ONLY ADULT IN THE MOVE.

        P.S. I am sending the DNC an email to tell them once again how UNCOOL it is that President Obama does not have the support of his own party…until I see better I will not give them another dime!

    • 130 anniebella
      May 22, 2011 at 12:22 pm

      Now you see why we voted for him in 2008, and we plan to vote for him in 2012. Welcome aboard TO2012.

    • May 22, 2011 at 2:56 pm

      This man is the most courageous, moral, honest and fearless this country has seen in many many decades. I wish you’d wait until the end of the speech before lashing out at him for no reason at all. If anything, he was even more hard on Israel today than on Thursday. By now you should know that PBO’s favorite hobby is to take fools to school when they sit in the front row. Just ask Paul Ryan.

  27. 135 meta
    May 22, 2011 at 11:38 am

    ON TO MONEYGALL!!!!

  28. 141 globalcitizenlinda
    May 22, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Chipsticks, I think this is one of those moments when those who support President Obama need to do some direct pushback to the media outlets and call them out about the way the created a fake controversy. Is it possible for us to get some links to these MSN idiots and point out to them that the POTUS said exactly the same thing on thursday and sunday and that they should QUIT manipulating his words for their own benefit of ratings?

    • 142 sherijr
      May 22, 2011 at 11:57 am

      I agree linda, we really ought to become more forceful about the media’s behavior, let them know via email, concerted email/calls that we are on to their BS.

    • 144 AnitaW
      May 22, 2011 at 11:58 am

      That 60% is crazy. And he will not be able to sustain it as indys are so fickle. But we can enjoy it just as much as we do the 44% number. He’s working hard and he’s doing a good job. This fact cannot be in doubt to anyone paying attention.

      • 145 hopefruit2
        May 22, 2011 at 12:05 pm

        I am enjoying the 60%!! I think it’s a very realistic indicator of where the President OUGHT to be right now given all he’s done, not just the Bin Laden killing.

        GWB had a 91% approval after 911. Now THAT was “crazy.”

        • 146 AnitaW
          May 22, 2011 at 12:15 pm

          That was the with us or against us bluster. But you’re right that was crazy.

          I hope the repubs continue to eat each other alive and that President Obama continues to behave like the only adult in the room. I think the economy is recovering and I don’t think people are going to be happy with any efforts to sabotage this recovery. Now if we could just bring the troops home from Afgan.

          • 147 theo67
            May 22, 2011 at 12:31 pm

            I like the fact that the President is essentially writing his own narrative, and not letting himself get pulled into talking about what the media wants him to talk about. He stops occasionally to point out how stupid they are, and then carries on doing his job. Even today’s speech was quite short, pointed out the stupidity, and then he was gone to pack for Moneygall. When he said he’s got better stuff to do, he wasn’t joking.

      • 149 UT Austin Liberal
        May 22, 2011 at 2:43 pm

        Anita W I’m with you on the indys. Independents always screw up polls and other data. We’re always worried about that 20% in the middle that goes dem one minute and repub the next. I’m so tired of that. I just want to tell them pick ONE SIDE and STICK TO IT.

        • 150 lisalovesobama
          May 22, 2011 at 3:15 pm

          I’m an Indy and I’ve already picked my side and I’m sticking to it so that we can stick it to the Repugs. OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 AND 2016 (Miche and Jill) BABY!!!!!! I’M IN, ALL THE WAY COME HELL OR HIGH WATER!!!!
          ps- we should have an entire Obama/Biden dynasty! That would be frickin’ awesome πŸ™‚

          • 151 UT Austin Liberal
            May 22, 2011 at 4:23 pm

            Right behind you Lisa. An Obama/Biden Dynasty… That’s Change I Can Believe In. Every 4 years we would be assured that adults are in the White House taking care of business. Lisa.. you are TOO funny. πŸ˜€

    • May 22, 2011 at 3:52 pm

      By the way, the AP was one of the news organizations that distorted what he said.. This was pointed out by Jay carney in friday’s press briefing… I likme a man who tells you the truth in the dark and in the open and this is why so much alarm because the secret was out for the world to hear.. President Obama has a backbone of steel….

      • 154 GGail
        May 22, 2011 at 7:36 pm

        I agree Michele, Jay Carney had his hands full at the Press Conference on Friday, yet he kept answering the question over and over and refused to allow twisted statements or speculation grow legs. He even stated that he was tired of that line of speculation, but he too stood firm in support of WHAT THE PRESIDENT said in his speech.

      • 155 Chi
        May 22, 2011 at 8:37 pm

        AP, The Associated Press was taken over by a high roller Republican fundraiser and operative before the elections in 2008…

        AP has never been the same since…getting it’s marching orders and talking points at the same time each morning and from the very same sources as the the GOP leadership, strategists, pundits, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly and the rest of the lot…

        Cato Institute and the Heritage foundation…They and their offshoots write the script and control the narrative that’s followed religiously each day…

        They wrote the Ryan end Medicare Bill after they through Dick Armey’s American’s for Prosperity funded by the Koch brothers, co-opted and exploited as many dumb, ignorant, racists under the so-called Tea Party…

        Avoid AP, and that would include not clicking on Yahoo news and much of the other internet generated newslinks as they are all fed by AP mostly…

  29. 156 Fred
    May 22, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    I appreciate you TO2012 for coming here and braving us as we are fiercely protective of the President.

    If I can suggest one thing to you is that you always tune out the so-called MSM before and after the President makes a speech and take sometime to think about his POV so that nobody clouds your judgement.

    The President does NOT see short-term but long-term;first and always

    oh and welcome!

  30. 157 PoliticalJunkessa
    May 22, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    I’m gonna bow out of this thread, as there is a bit of attention-whoring going on. Will wait for a new, shiny one…

    Glad to see our President was stellar, as USUAL. Now he can focus on getting ready to get on that plane with his lovely wife and girls and going to feel the love across the pond.

    Next time, don’t take the bait, my dear fellow TODers ;-). Have a great day, everyone :-)!

  31. 160 meta
    May 22, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    OT – Here’s a beautiful image that Eddie at Obamafoodorama says is from a T-shirt celebrating PBO’s trip to Ireland:

  32. 161 anniebella
    May 22, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    If any of you were sick of Rep. Hoyer this morning, do what I’m going to do. Send him a email and let him know what you think.

    • 162 Proud of Obama
      May 22, 2011 at 12:48 pm

      Gonna follow your lead. Hoyer was simply disgusting.

      On a better note, oh those photos Chipsticks! Is our president HOT or what? Dang.

      • 163 hopefruit2
        May 22, 2011 at 1:04 pm

        I’m having the same thoughts POB!

        • 164 anniebella
          May 22, 2011 at 1:35 pm

          You know I am just so glad that our President walk out there today, and told the people exactly what he stood for. He didn’t back down, he wasn’t sucking up to the audience, he was speaking what he believe and felt. To me it wasn’t about what he look like or how hot he is, it was about how Friday the leader of Israel sat in the White House and diss our President. So how was the President going to act today speaking before that auidence. Was he going to bow down to all the bashing he recieved, or was he going to come out and state what and how he feels. Was he going to back down? I’m proud to say he didn’t back down, he stood there and told them exactly what he think. And I so respect him for that so much.

  33. 165 CTGirl
    May 22, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    I missed the party! Was in church but I had NO doubt he would have this!

  34. 166 CTGirl
    May 22, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Look at Daniel walking into the lions’ den …. He is covered indeed! Look at the confidence!

    • 167 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 12:54 pm

      Yes, he looked fierce and ready for battle when he walked in, and he had a definite swagger when he walked out. That’s what happens when you have right and goodness on your side.

  35. 169 Anonymous
    May 22, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/world/middleeast/23aipac.html?_r=1&hp

    I belive the speech was realistic and a very good approach. Both parties should act like grown ups and seize the opportunity and make peace!!!

  36. 170 NewCenturyWoman
    May 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Looking at those pictures above of our beloved and handsome president, I’m reminded of that “SWAGGERIFIC” video someone posted during the wee wee hours of the morning following the night President Obama announced that U.S. had taken out Osama Bin Laden. These photos as well as that “Swaggerifc” (sp???)video empitomize the natural–but not arrogant– confidence this man has. He’s confident because he knows that he is acting on the right side history. He’s confident because he is a good and honorable man. He’s confident because he has done his research, and he’s thought things through, before taking any action. His confidence is exemplified by his innate swagger, and it shows. πŸ™‚ Does anyone have the link to that video? It’ll take me forever to go through the archives to look for it (with my slow, slow internet).

  37. May 22, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    I’m watching the AIPAC speech video again and man that “swagger” is off the hook!
    WOW!!

    • 173 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 1:12 pm

      I’ve watched it again, too. It was brief, but important. And the swagger is indeed “off the hook”. πŸ™‚

  38. 174 Titti
    May 22, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    People doubt this man at their own peril.

  39. 175 Me4obama
    May 22, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Just finished watching the speech now. What a man and what a speech!! I had to go take a long walk to calm my nerves down because I was hyper ventilating minutes before the speech. No pill would have helped to calm my nerves down because I was afraid the wing nuts were going to boo him. I had to come here and read the comments before watching the speech. So thank u all.

  40. 176 SUE DUVALL SMITH
    May 22, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    PRESIDENT OBAMA’S SPEECH WAS JUST LIKE THURSDAY’S….DIRECT AND NECESSARY…INDEED…IT’S TIME FOR ISRAELI AND PALESTINIAN LEADERS TO GROW UP AND WORK OUT A PLAN FOR PEACE! THIS HAS GONE ON FOR FAR TOO LONG AND FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR CHILDREN…THEY NEED TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER!

  41. 177 Carolyn
    May 22, 2011 at 1:27 pm

    Yes, Titti, people do doubt this man at their own peril! And,I’ve learned NEVER to pay attention to people who speak BERORE he does trying to tell him what to say, or tell us what he is going to say….they always end up with egg on their faces. You would think they’d have learned by now, but they all enjoy, too much, their little time in the spotlight. He does not walk back. Those who have paid attention to him since at least 2007,know he is amazingly consistent, he does not flipflop. We saw him in 2007 and he was dealing with the same themes he is now, and expressing the same core principles he does today. He HAS core principles, therefore does not fall for all the silliness of any given season.
    Regarding writing Steny Hoyer and media, that is smart. When I worked on Capitol Hill, we counted letters, and which side they supported. Politicians do not like to get mail criticizing them, so do it! I, too, have been writing the media. We HAVE to so they know people are listening and critiquing. Writing and making noise is now the small minority Tea Party people got so much press.

  42. 178 GGail
    May 22, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    I did not enter this thread, but chose to just read. I am so proud of my TOD family for eloquently standing up for our chosen President. You all made me PROUD to be a member of this family. We will not tolerate those who will not see or think for themselves, nor will we tolerate fence-sitters. The President has proven himself over and over to be a clear, calm, thinker and his efforts on our behalf has proven over and over to be the correct path to take. You’re either IN or you’re not. If not – then this is not the place for you. The President gave a wonderful speech that clearly re-stated his position and steely resolve and I am so PROUD of him. Thank you Chipsticks for providing this place for us. ONWARD AND UPWARD OBAMA/BIDEN2012!

  43. 179 kelly
    May 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm

    WOW the 1st and 2nd pictures….. *fans self* My president is beautiful and sexy. Perfect speech is perfect.

    • 181 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 2:12 pm

      They’ve lost their minds, and it’s wonderful. I hope the 24 hour visit goes off without a hitch and is enjoyed by all! Amazing that the Moneygall trip is getting all the publicity (rightfully so), and the state visit to England and the sleepover at Buckingham Palace is an afterthought. People are tired of the negativity, and all the positive karma out of Moneygall/Ireland has touched the hearts of millions.

    • 182 Kels
      May 22, 2011 at 3:41 pm

      Please, please, please. Lord. Let the weather be ok for POTUS to go to Moneygall!

  44. 183 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    GOOD DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AS USUAL GREAT SPEECH…AND IN HONOR OF OUR PRESIDENT…

    ENJOY THIS CLIP “YES WE CAN” AND YES WE WILL

    VIVA OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    • 184 VC prezOfan2
      May 22, 2011 at 3:10 pm

      Kasai, I liked THAT! Thanks! I can’t wait for 2012 (I can, but you all know what I mean)! I wonder, can one expire from too much positive emotion??? πŸ˜†

      • 185 Kasai
        May 22, 2011 at 3:25 pm

        You are so welcome VC…I know what you mean πŸ™‚
        Positive emotions is what this President carries with him day in and day out…regardless of how many try to bring him down:-)

  45. 186 Dakota
    May 22, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    I’m reading that the President was mildly booed at some point during the speech? Leave it to the MSM to latch onto any little negative and blow it up. He addressed the media distortion of what he said and he stuck to his guns in his speech…but doesn’t he always? Approval rating is 60%…loves it!

    • 187 Fred
      May 22, 2011 at 2:15 pm

      you’ll always find the usual renegade.You know the few who can’t get their heads out of their arses long enough to face and deal with reality.

      A few minutes into that speech they all had to shut their traps because he was telling them the truth

    • 188 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 2:18 pm

      The press probably didn’t listen to anything but that one point in the speech. Leave them to it.

    • 189 kelly
      May 22, 2011 at 3:18 pm

      out of 10,000 people one or 2 boosed when he began to speak about the border thing. They quickly stfu when he pwned them with facts. Hardly news worthy but what do you expect from MSM.

      I remember a feew months ago, when WI had 100,000 liberals protesting the disgraceful GOP gov Walker. MSM kept showing us Egypt protest but when a few teabaggers were bussed in on their Koch Brother financed buses from other states, to show support for the same GOV. It was shown again and again and again. American media remains disgusting shills for the GOP. *barf*

    • May 22, 2011 at 3:23 pm

      I watched the speech on the bbc and the correspondent said he didn’t get any boos.

  46. 191 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    YES WE CANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN….. LET’S GO 2012 HERE WE COME πŸ™‚

  47. 192 Dakota
    May 22, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    THE PARTY IS ON IN MONEYGALL! LOL!

  48. 193 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    I am leaving all the little ants in ground…..while my President rise up to every occasion and leave them scratching their heads for more made up BS…..We won’t go for the silly season…Nothing obsolutely nothing can shake the love and respect that President have all around this globe.

  49. 194 Bobfr
    May 22, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    Good day everyone,

    Apart from the fact that the President provided yet another example of how genuine he is and how foolish people are to mis-characterize his intent and words, he reaffirmed something that is going to be his strongest case to the American people to re-elect him – he has assiduously avoided the politically ease posture for the steeled, pragmatic delivery of results.

    Anyone with the capacity to listen, heard a President speak directly to the facts that Israel must face if it has any hope of persisting as a democratic, secure and Jewish State – it must enable the emergence of a stable, secure Palestinian State.

    Bibi put his foot in it, the President made that clear while not being confrontational about it, and the President sucked all the oxygen out of the room when Bibi addresses Congress.

    But, all of you know that. I’m only re-stating it because someone came to this community and began spouting before even listening or reading the President’s speech. The many reactions to that individual bespeak the exceptional quality and dignity of those who regularly enjoy Chipsticks hospitality (and I know at BWD’s place and TPV, that person would have been similarly received).

    That, we have this community is something I’m grateful and just wanted to offer my thanks to Chipsticks and all of you for being not merely supporters of the President, but reasonable, critical thinking, pragmatic Americans.

    Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

    • 195 UT Austin Liberal
      May 22, 2011 at 2:51 pm

      Thank you Bobfr. x1000

    • 196 sherijr
      May 22, 2011 at 2:52 pm

      Ditto from me Bob, nicely said.

    • 197 VC prezOfan2
      May 22, 2011 at 3:02 pm

      ‘Bibi put his foot in it, the President made that clear while not being confrontational about it’

      Bobfr – This is absolutely one of the many reasons I so love this President! He pushes back with strength, and class, but he does not use his strength to overpower, or maliciously annihilate* -(an iron fist in kid gloves?). IMO his strength often lies in the ‘rightness’ of his position, which he states calmly, then leaves room for the other party to get up and try again. In doing this, he sometimes (often) in the short term looks ‘weak’ to those lacking perception, but that never seems to faze him, or weaken him. To me this shows an unbelievable high level of self-confidence, a fraction which I wish I could appproximate in my own life.

      * Full disclosure – I have to admit that application of his strength does annihilate the recalcitrants, but IMO it’s not his fault they wouldn’t pay attention. πŸ˜‰

      • 198 Chi
        May 22, 2011 at 8:59 pm

        This is an extraordinarily superior man our President…

        This is a man who does not seek to humiliate or disgrace not even those who will destroy him – not for revenge, cheap points or to elevate himself…

        This President has shown time and again that he will even help rehabilitate his most vicious oponents even when they have been awful, wicked, destructive and undeserving…

        I remain in awe of President Obama and with each passing day, I only love, respect and admire this most impeccable human being and leader more than ever…

        If only I could be half the measured, brilliant, disciplined, decent, unshakeable, insightful, empathetic, compassionate, clear-headed, focused, all around amazing human being he consistently is…

    • May 22, 2011 at 3:22 pm

      As ever Bob, you’re a fount of wisdom, reason and calm – is there any wonder I love you so!

      In so many ways, I thought the President’s speech today was up there with the most courageous he has ever made (allied to his Middle East speech last week). Even gently and mildly challenging Israeli intransigence on the Palestinian issue is an incredibly brave move in US politics, but, once again, he has just proved himself to be someone who believes in doing the right thing – whatever the consequences. Today’s speech was masterful.

      Thank you Bob.

      • 200 Bobfr
        May 22, 2011 at 4:07 pm

        Dear UT Austin Liberal (I’m originally from San Antonio πŸ™‚ ), sherijr VC prez and Chipsticks,

        Thank you for your kind comments.

        President Obama has established the only viable path for Israel to take if it has any hope of emerging as a democratic, sustainable, Jewish State. Time is not on Israel’s side. Period. It is a function of geography and demographics. If they don’t act now, robustly, to enable the Palestinians to have their own State, the dream of a Jewish State will perish as the overwhelming majority of the population will not be Jewish and the only way an Israel would persist is if it became an autocratic, repressive regime – something the US would not be able to support with any level of credibility or effectiveness.

        Time for Israelis to elect a non-delusional government committed to sustainable democracy and a Jewish State.

        Onward!!

        • 201 UT Austin Liberal
          May 22, 2011 at 4:18 pm

          Hey Bobfr. Fellow Texan. πŸ˜€ I have friends who go to UTSA in San Antonio. It’s a wonderful city. I’m originally from Houston but I go to the University of Texas at Austin. So when deciding on a screen name it was easy: I’M A LONGHORN FOR LIFE. I BLEED ORANGE (hence the UT Austin) AND VOTE BLUE (hence the liberal) πŸ˜€

          Once again thanks for the whiplash SMART comments.

          • 202 Bobfr
            May 22, 2011 at 8:43 pm

            Well, as it happens I’ve got several generations of relatives who are all Aggies — but I don’t hold it against them πŸ™‚ Met my wife in Austin many years ago! Haven’t lived in Texas for > 40 years.

            Very much appreciate your compliments.

            Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!

            • 203 UT Austin Liberal
              May 22, 2011 at 8:54 pm

              Yay! Austin gave you a goldmine πŸ™‚ ooooooooooh Aggies…. Ouch and dangerous territory for a LONGHORN…. but as you said I won’t hold it against them. πŸ˜‰

        • 204 majii
          May 22, 2011 at 5:27 pm

          I’m a fan of yours, Bob, even though you didn’t know it. I’ve read your very insightful posts at TOAITR, here, on pm carpenter’s blog, and at the People’s View. I look forward to reading each one because I know I’ll find something that I can add to my existing arsenal of information. You’re 100% correct. This is one of the most consistent presidents I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a lot of them! Thanks!

      • May 22, 2011 at 4:19 pm

        Chipsticks he said it in the speech that this is probally not what a President running for re-election should be talking about. He also talked about Rham and Axelrod probally telling him not to talk about this issue but this is why I admire and respect the President because he does the hard things..

        The world is changing and I think the world and me want a peace deal. I personally think its better to be told the truth by a friend like President Obama then a fake friend who gives you no support like previous adminstrations before. Israel’s own military has commented on the increased level of military support they have received from the current adminstration and if I’m not mistaken they are getting more aid from the United States then in the past.

        Mr. yahoo looked like a bully and he looked like a fool in front of the world. The world and Americans are organizing against bullies and he Mr. yahoo showed his true colors…

        No respect to bullies.

  50. 207 hopefruit2
    May 22, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    160+ comments! Wow..this is approaching the WHCD thread’s territory!

    • 208 UT Austin Liberal
      May 22, 2011 at 2:53 pm

      Hahaha hopefruit2. Do you think we could really top the WHCD thread? That would be W-O-W…. That night’s live commenting was crazy good and i LOVED it. πŸ˜€

      • 209 hopefruit2
        May 22, 2011 at 4:16 pm

        LOL – we still have quite a ways to go before we can top the WHCD thread. But this one will probably come in at a fairly close second!

  51. 210 anniebella
    May 22, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    I just sent Rep. Hoyer an email.

  52. 211 Deagara
    May 22, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    What great speech….it really moved me I can’t wait for 2012. I can tell he can’t either. Thanks Chip for all you do.

  53. 212 aamom
    May 22, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    I like the fact even though he got a few boos, he later called them out and pointed to the folks who did it. My Prez is fearless!

  54. 213 sherijr
    May 22, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    I too wrote to Rep. Hoyer. Here is his contact email for anyone outside of his District:

    http://www.democraticwhip.gov/content/email-whip

    • 214 kelly
      May 22, 2011 at 3:22 pm

      I am ready to send an email but I don’t know who is this rep and what has he done. Do tell. thanks

      • 215 sherijr
        May 22, 2011 at 3:32 pm

        Hi Kelly~ Rep. Steny Hoyer is the House Democratic Whip and he represents Maryland’s 5th District. Today he gave the, I believe, Intro speech at AIPAC before POTUS gave his speech. I did not hear Mr. Hoyer speak, but what I have read on his speech is that he chose also to misinterpret President Obama’s Middle East speech and to side with Netanyahu… even after Netanyahu has been dishonest and as we all know showed my disrespect to POTUS at the White House. I told Rep. Hoyer of my disappointment in any Democrat that would stand with Netanyahu over a democratically elected American President.. that I too, feel it is time for Israel and Palestine to make history and grow up.. to make peace for the sake of their own children.. and for the sake of mine. And I told him that the DNC has lost any funding from me for now- thanks to HIM.. and that OFA is getting alllll of my billions, lol πŸ˜‰

        • 216 sherijr
          May 22, 2011 at 3:33 pm

          showed his, not ‘my’.. oops big typo up there!

        • 217 kelly
          May 22, 2011 at 4:40 pm

          Thank you. It’s just disgraceful how the Dems in Congress behave, no wonder them and their GOP counterparts poll so badly with the American people.

    • 218 theo67
      May 22, 2011 at 3:30 pm

      I’m going to write a letter, too. Hoyer singled out Cantor for praise in his pathetic speech. Well, isn’t Cantor the same man who stood silently while tea partiers and members of his own party hoisted up a large banner on the steps of the capital depicting children’s bodies that had been killed in the Holocaust? Isn’t Cantor the same man who recently went to Israel and pledged his allegiance to a foreign government? Isn’t Cantor the same man who belongs to a party that frequently compares the current President to Hitler, and other fascist dictators? Hoyer needs to get a grip.

      Fact is, as a Democrat, Hoyer should have called on all of the pro-Israel moves that the Democratic Administration has made in these last two years. He should have been touting the actual actions of support, that move forward the security and interests of the United States. He should have shared a few words of support for his Democratic President, and the courageous speech he made, instead of fawning over some deluded ideologues and their Republican puppet.

      • 219 sherijr
        May 22, 2011 at 3:36 pm

        OOps again, I guess I jumped to a conclusion, I wrote to him thinking that he had supported Netanyahu… I still would have written to him regarding the Cantor support.. but I said something entirely different in my email.. That will teach ME to listen to something before I comment on it. thanks again Theo.

        • 220 theo67
          May 22, 2011 at 4:59 pm

          Don’t worry, he did side with Netanyahu, because he repeated all the incorrect grievances that Netanyahu has been chirping about. Your letter will still be relevant.

      • 221 LYNND
        May 22, 2011 at 4:58 pm

        A few months ago I read that Cantor was overseas, working behind the scenes to accommodate “Bi Bi” on America’s Israeli policy, as if he (Cantor) were running the show over here. The midterm election really went to this idiot’s head.

    • 222 anniebella
      May 22, 2011 at 5:29 pm

      If I could I would send every single Democrat a email, because they do not, have not supported this President like they should.

  55. 223 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    @ AAMOM….he sure did…when he said..something including some of you in this room….that was priceless…heheheh

    That’s one Fearless Leader…..hopefully they will learn ..to never underestimate this President…it will come back to haunt you…..love it:-)

  56. 224 LYNND
    May 22, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    I remember at a rally in Michigan, there were some in the audience, who booed our Governor when she was introduced. He not only called out the offending hecklers, he also pointed to them and said [sic]: “You there! that’s not going to do us, or yourselves any good!” Call em’ out Mr. President!

    • May 22, 2011 at 3:26 pm

      He used to call out his supporters when they booed Hillary during the primaries. I loved him for that. I didn’t like her but the fact that he told us not to disrespect her like that says volumes about him.

    • 226 Barb
      May 22, 2011 at 4:29 pm

      Thanks Chips for providing this space for us. This has been a fantastic thread. Held me at every turn. I am so proud to be a member and admire the critical thinking that transpires here along with humor. It is very balanced. I love our President and have all comfidence in him. He stands brave and tall. He gets his point across and will not be intimidated by any naysayers.

  57. 227 Me4obama
    May 22, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    O’leary, O’reilly, O’hare and o’hara they is no one more Irish as Me4O’bama. Toor a loo, toor a loo, toor a loo, toor a lama there is no one more Irish as Me4O’bama. To prove it am doing the Riverdance. One day to moneygall. If anyone from Moneygall looking to adopt me the whole day on Monday I will sign the paper asap.

  58. 230 Fred
    May 22, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Obama is not where past presidents have been on Israel or Palestine or the Middle East. He is different from his predecessors in that he clearly feels more kinship with the people of the region as a whole and does not see it as the cartoonish world of good and evil or of a few leaders standing in the place of whole nations. He recognizes that he is living at a pivotal time not only in the history of the Middle East but also in the history of U.S. foreign policy. He must work within new constraints and yet he wants to find ways to use what leverage he does have to remain relevant. And he is a cagy, cerebral, finesse player — the Roger Federer of politics and diplomacy, all grace and angles. (An analogy made sharper by the fact that Federer’s dominance is fading in much the same way America’s is.)

    as a huge huge huge huge tennis fan and even bigger fan of Roger Federer fan(sorry Nadal/Djokovic fans here ;)) there is a LOT of similarities between the President and Roger;both quiet;well manered guys who some complain are “weak” yet there are very powerful(Roger a little less since he’s 30 and has lost a step or 2 and Novak is playing out of this world tennis πŸ™‚ but my boy Roger is doing well;thank you very freaking much ;)) THIS analogy is B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T and spot on! πŸ˜€

    so happy tennis got a shout out even if it’s in regards to a very delicate subject that is the Israel/Palestinian one
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/05/19/not_perfect_but_a_long_way_from_w?page=0,1

    • 231 UT Austin Liberal
      May 22, 2011 at 3:37 pm

      Thanks for this Fred. I absolutely ADORE Roger Federer. I have been following him for years. Nadal is pretty good too, but when it comes to him or Federer… I’m on team Federer. People always call him weak when at the beginning of the game he misses a couple of shots. They NEVER seem to understand that Roger’s mind is like a scientific calculator… always more than 10 steps ahead and he’s looking at the long view: Winning the match in the end.

      • 232 Fred
        May 22, 2011 at 3:43 pm

        so well said UT.Oh boy another reason why you and I get along so well;our love for the Rog πŸ˜€

        can’t wipe the πŸ˜€ off my face now πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

  59. 237 cat48
    May 22, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    Hey guys! Loved the prez speech Love the way he had his Chicago friends there rooting for him. Good for them for showing up! He was ready for battle today. Glad I’m not Bibi, poor thing is boxed in by the Master!

  60. 238 halo
    May 22, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    TWO MILLION HITS ON THE WAY

  61. 239 Fred
    May 22, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    anyone knows at what time the President and the Mrs are leaving for Europe?

  62. 245 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    Amazing that the President..time and time again has to school these idiots what “Swaps” means….and one again he rises above pettiness and showed them that He Was The Only Adult in the room πŸ™‚

    Loved this line…

    By definition, it means that the parties themselves – Israelis and Palestinians – will negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967. That’s what ‘mutually agreed swaps’ means.

  63. 246 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    For those that think this was the same ol AIPAC political speech….

    To all the Republicans out there….BE VERYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY AFRAID

    This line was BRILLIANT….he gambled his political career on Health care, Race relations, Auto Bailout, Recovery Act… and so much more….and then came this line was just perfect.

    I know that stating these principles — on the issues of territory and security — generated some controversy over the past few days. (Laughter.) I wasn’t surprised. I know very well that the easy thing to do, particularly for a President preparing for reelection, is to avoid any controversy. I don’t need Rahm to tell me that. Don’t need Axelrod to tell me that. But I said to Prime Minister Netanyahu, I believe that the current situation in the Middle East does not allow for procrastination. I also believe that real friends talk openly and honestly with one another. (Applause.) So I want to share with you some of what I said to the Prime Minister.

    • 247 kelly
      May 22, 2011 at 4:44 pm

      Greatest POTUS of my lifetime right there. This is what strong gutsy leaders do.

    • 248 anniebella
      May 22, 2011 at 5:41 pm

      How many of us have that real friend, who can and will tell you the truth when no one else will, even if you might not want to hear it. But at the same time if you need them, if you are hurting, that friend would be the first one there. That is a true friend. To bad Netanyahu can’t understand that.

    • 249 M
      May 22, 2011 at 9:12 pm

      That was an amazing line, an amazingly courageous act too!

  64. 250 m
    May 22, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    TOD is so close to 2,000,000 hits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)

  65. 251 Asher in Boston
    May 22, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Mr. President, thank you for sticking to your guns and schooling those idiots as they always need schooling. As for Sterny Hoyer, you are such a disgrace. Good that Potus and family are flying out to moneygall and to others places were people are civil, well mannered and well informed.

  66. 256 Walking on Sunshine
    May 22, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Feeling a little sympathy for TO2012. I was also nervous before this speech. It’s such a messy issue and is a hard path to navigate. There are people who fly into a fit if you even suggest that Israel isn’t 100% right about everything and Presidents have fallen victim to pandering to that sentiment before.

    I WAS expecting him to stand his ground mostly because I’ve been paying close attention to the President for a long time but I still get nervous at moments like this. God knows TO2012 does have a good point about the prevalence of backing down and changing positions amongst politicians. I expect he/she has been disappointed many times in the past. Perhaps TO2012 just needs to spend more time watching PBO. In my experience, the more you watch this man the more your confidence in him grows.

    The President did not change his position. He stuck to his guns and got them to applaud him for doing it.

    So now that’s over with. Let the fun start. I’m loving the look of the next few days! πŸ™‚

    • 257 Dakota
      May 22, 2011 at 4:17 pm

      “There are people who fly into a fit if you even suggest that Israel isn’t 100% right about everything…” Word.

      But you’re right, it’s over with and now it’s time for some fun!

    • 258 lisalovesobama
      May 22, 2011 at 5:42 pm

      You are great WOS, so glad to be sharing this community with all of you.

  67. 259 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    I just checked U2/Bono site….just to see if he was performing in Dublin for PBO….

    interestingly enough he was booked most of the days in may…he was in Denver last night….But it seems that May 23rd is open…then he performs again May 24th….keeping my fingers crossed that may 23rd was open for something special….

    I am always dreaming….heheheh:-)

  68. 260 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Chipstick..I am allowed to dream…aren’t I?

    • 261 UT Austin Liberal
      May 22, 2011 at 4:30 pm

      Oh Kasai I’m right there with you in the dream that U2/BONO will perform. Oh the sweet sweet melody!

  69. 262 NewCenturyWoman
    May 22, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Chipsticks, not to be shallow on a day when the President courageously goes before AIPAC and reiterates a serious and powerful message of change, but I’ve found the “Swaggerific” video that was posted here last month. The video speaks to President’s natural swagger that was just sooooo evident today. And I, too, love the title “Swaggerific.” (It’s not mine, though. πŸ™‚ I am going to try to embed it here. If I am unsuccessful, the video can be found on the May 1st “night everyone” thread. It was the 292 comment posted by SouthernGirl2 at 2:41 a.m. (This was the night when you slept through history, Chips. :). Terrrrrific video!

    • May 22, 2011 at 4:38 pm

      WhhhhhoooOOOOOOoooooooah, that is one excellent video, NCW!!! SWAGGERIFIC!! πŸ˜†

    • 264 kelly
      May 22, 2011 at 4:47 pm

      Thank you NCW. I love “shallow” especially when it comes attached with this gorgeous video. πŸ˜€

    • May 22, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      I remember posting this. Here’s a random video I came across when President Obama was on the campaign on his plane:

      • May 22, 2011 at 5:01 pm

        Talk about striking a pose.

      • 267 UT Austin Liberal
        May 22, 2011 at 5:07 pm

        Hahahah thanks for the video Donna. I love how Pres. Obama was completely unaware that the female reporters were ogling him. He was turning around in a circle showing the guys with him his jeans and talking to them and on the phone too and had no idea pictures were being taken of him. Also I love how the told the woman to SIT DOWN so they could ogle some more. πŸ˜†

  70. 268 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    There you go….

    U2360Β° TOUR Leg 3: 2011May
    21
    2011
    Denver, CO Invesco Field (34) The Fray Packages Tickets
    May
    24
    2011
    Salt Lake City, UT Rice-Eccles Stadium (15) The Fray Packages Tickets
    May
    29
    2011
    Winnipeg, MB CA CANAD Inns Stadium (8) The Fray ENDED ENDED
    Jun
    1
    2011
    Edmonton CA Commonwealth Stadium

  71. 269 globalcitizenlinda
    May 22, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    watched President Obama’s speech live but did we just forget to include video of part 2 on this site? I believe it contains the Peace Process “straight-talk” portion of his address that reiterates exactly what he said on thursday about the 1967 borders

  72. 272 UT Austin Liberal
    May 22, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Totally OT: OMG! OMG! My Big Fat Greek Wedding on TBS right now!!.. I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE this movie. WOOOHOOOO πŸ˜†

    • 273 kelly
      May 22, 2011 at 4:49 pm

      lol I love this random comment.

    • 274 hopefruit2
      May 22, 2011 at 5:01 pm

      I saw this movie in the theatre when it first came out and I’ve loved it ever since!!

    • 275 lisalovesobama
      May 22, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      Love the movie but will be watching the Billboard Awards on ABC instead. Miche is supposed to be honoring Beyonce tonight for her work in music and such. Two of my favorite women in one night!!!! Christ on a cracker, I’m schvitzing!! Quick, somebody cool me the hell down πŸ™‚

      • 276 UT Austin Liberal
        May 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm

        OMG!!!!! Lisa we are TV sisters.. First we both watch Confessions of a Shopaholic, then we LOVE My Big Fat Greek Wedding and now we’re both going to be watching the Billboard Awards to see Michelle Obama. Woohoooooo πŸ˜€

  73. 278 Doris
    May 22, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    I’m in Steny Hoyer’s district and he will surely hear from me.

  74. 279 LYNND
    May 22, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Mr. Hoyner really has me ticked. I just sent him an e-mail to let him know just how I feel. GRRRRRRR

  75. 280 UT Austin Liberal
    May 22, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Totally OT: First Lady Michelle Obama is going to be giving a tribute to Beyonce at the Billboard Music Awards tonight on ABC. It comes on at 8pmET/7pmCT/5pmPT. I am sooo excited to see FLOTUS.

    Also for music lovers: Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, Beyonce (maybe), Taio Cruz, Black Eyed Peas, Keith Urban, Jennifer Lopez, Pitbull, Britney Spears(maybe), Lady Antebellum, Cee Lo Green, Ke$ha, Linkin Park, Far East Movement and One Republic are going to perform. Should be fun.

  76. 281 Kasai
    May 22, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Anything Obama…I am watching πŸ™‚ thanks for the reminder UT Austin:-)

  77. 282 maritza
    May 22, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    Latinos for Obama/Biden 2012!

    USMC-Vietnam Vets for Obama/Biden 2012!

  78. 283 M
    May 22, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    How incredibly confident PBO looks in that top pic for this post. Wish his mom and grandparents could see that.


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