President Barack Obama talks with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the Oval Office, May 18, 2009

Jeffrey Goldberg (The Atlantic): …I was taken aback when I read a statement from Prime Minister Netanyahu yesterday that he “expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004, which were overwhelmingly supported by both House of Congress.”

So Netanyahu “expects” to hear this from the President of the United States? And if President Obama doesn’t walk back the speech, what will Netanyahu do? Will he cut off Israeli military aid to the U.S.? Will he cease to fight for the U.S. in the United Nations, and in the many  international forums that treat Israel as a pariah?

I don’t like this word, “expect”. Even if there weren’t an imbalance between these two countries – Israel depends on the U.S. for its survival, while America, I imagine, would continue to exist even if Israel ceased to exist – I would find myself feeling resentful about the way Netanyahu speaks about our President.

….he threw something of a hissy fit. It was not appropriate, and more to the point, it was not tactically wise … Prime Minister Netanyahu needs the support of President Obama in order to confront the greatest danger Israel has ever faced: the potential of a nuclear-armed Iran. And yet he seems to go out of his way to alienate the President. Why does he do this? It’s a mystery to me.

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Thank you LoriahR

Also from Jeffrey Goldberg:….Republicans are misreading Obama’s speech for short-term political gain. But they’re doing the cause they ostensibly support – Israel – a disservice in the process. Because President Obama’s speech was enthusiastically pro-Israel …

Here’s Tim Pawlenty on the speech, misreading a crucial passage: “President Obama’s insistence on a return to the 1967 borders is a mistaken and very dangerous demand….”

President Obama didn’t “insist” that Israel return to its 1967 borders. He said the 1967 borders should form the basis of negotiations, and that Israel and Palestine should swap land, land swaps that would bring settlement blocs and East Jerusalem Jewish neighborhoods into Israel proper.

But Pawlenty is a master of subtlety when compared to Mitt Romney, who said: “President Obama has thrown Israel under the bus……”

Obama has thrown Israel under a bus? Top officials of the Israeli defense ministry have been telling me, and other reporters, for a couple of years now that military cooperation between their country and America has never been better. Some bus. There are a lot of countries out there that would like to be thrown under similar buses.

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30 Responses to ““expects”??”

  1. 1 donna dem 4 obama
    May 20, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Chips you have got to see this. Check out the picture in this piece. They were expecting 2000 people 🙂

    The Columbia Tea Party went from Donald Trump to jilted chump after the celebrity businessman canceled his appearance at Thursday’s State House rally, and state legislators approved tax breaks and spending that the group opposed.

    Trump’s decision to not enter the GOP presidential race left local Tea Party leaders stewing about the way they had been treated. But about 30 people were on hand Thursday to thank Gov. Nikki Haley, lawmakers and activists for their work to require more on-the-record Legislative votes.

    It was all part of a tough week for the state’s Tea Party movement.

    Read more: http://www.thestate.com/2011/05/20/1825938/tough-week-for-tea-party-ends.html#ixzz1MuNIiq7w

  2. 6 GGail
    May 20, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    PM Netanyahu is gonna learn today that this is one US President that he cannot pull the wool over. I support POTUS 100%. This stalemate has gone on long enough.

  3. 7 UT Austin Liberal
    May 20, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Goldberg’s article was spot on. Netanyahu better not go into the Oval Office thinking he can bully OUR PRESIDENT. The repugs can tell you: You will come out the LOSER and crying like a baby. Re: Planned Parenthood and Budget Debate. He has to realize that international polls show that both Palestinians and Israelis want a compromise. They are tired of the decades of stalled talks from both sides. To paraphrase POTUS: “Your People Will Judge You By What You Build; Not What You Destroy”.

  4. 8 Chi
    May 20, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    he “expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004, which were overwhelmingly supported by both House of Congress.”

    Mr Netanyahu really does have a nerve doesn’t he…

    • 9 AnitaW
      May 20, 2011 at 12:26 pm

      I’m guessing he won’t get this, but some Congress Critter will write a letter inline with committments made by Bush in 2004. One of my Jewish friends explained the U.S./Israel relationship as the big brother protecting his little brother who continually taunts the bully because he knows he has his big brother behind him. It’s beyond frustrating. And I know that when I talk with different people they never get our support for Israel.

    May 20, 2011 at 12:30 pm


  6. 12 Fred
    May 20, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    I hope Mr Obama tells Bibi to NEVER address him that way EVER AGAIN and I hope he does in FRONT of the media.WTF does Bibi think he is? saying he “expects” Mr Obama to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004″

    does he think Mr Obama is some kind a boy he wants to boss around? I mean WTF!

  7. 13 sherijr
    May 20, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    what an arrogant sob that Netanyahu has become.. do not mess with our President, he is already 20 steps ahead of you and your rightwing congress pals.

  8. 14 COS
    May 20, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Does Mitt Romney and Pawlenty have any foreign policy credentials? I mean ANY??? I beleive one of PBO’s specialities even before he entered the WH was Internationl Studies.

  9. 15 Carolyn
    May 20, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    I love Goldberg’s line concerning Netanyahu: “Will he cut off Israeli military aid to the U.S.?” Who does he think holds all the cards…..not Israel! He’s playing against a stacked deck, but doesn’t seem smart enough to know it.
    I remember reading an article about State Senator Barack Obama several years ago. In it another Illinois legislator said: “Never play poker with Obama. He’s way ahead of you, and you have no idea what he’s thinking.” This has been borne out every day so far.
    Pawlenty and Romney look more pitiful every day…..playing to a small wingnut base that can’t see beyond the borders of the U.S. Whether they know it or not, too many people have traveled to and studied in other countries to buy into this xenophobic cult they are trying to lead. We now have a lot more TCKs….”third culture kids” and grownups who look at the world through wide open eyes.

  10. 16 theo67
    May 20, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    So, Netanyahu says that the 1967 lines “do not take into account certain demographic changes on the ground that have taken place over the last 44 years.” Does he mean the illegal settlements on land they did not possess? Why should those be taken into consideration? I don’t understand what he means when he says “Israel wants peace”. Is that similar to when Republicans say they want a “bi-partisan solution”, but what they really mean is “their way or the highway”? These people need to think of their children and the kind of world they want to leave to them. The President can abandon all peace talks and let nature takes its course, focusing on the million other priorities he has on his plate – or these parties can get serious about seeking peace and start being realistic. It’s infuriating. I can’t imagine this is what people expected when the initial deal was done to give Israel a homeland – perpetual war and oppression.

    • 17 UT Austin Liberal
      May 20, 2011 at 3:06 pm

      x 100,000 Theo67. Spot on.

    • 19 sherijr
      May 20, 2011 at 3:34 pm

      Excellent comment Theo.

    • 20 majii
      May 20, 2011 at 11:30 pm

      Good points, theo! I’ve been reading more in Ha’aretz lately. Bibi is in a tough spot that is only getting tougher. He is alienating the young and the educated people in Israel and has pizzzed off many in the international community with his bullying and failure to follow agreed upon rules. He seems to lack the ability to see that he is placing Israel in a more dangerous position as each day passes. He so reminds me of the republicans. They are both bullies without the capacity to think about the long-term implications of their bull-headeness. The end result for the republicans, the U.S., and the world of GWB’s failure to govern effectively was bringing the world to its knees financially. The world was burning while GWB and the republicans posed before cameras and issued worthless rhetoric while giving the appearance of strength where there was only pure unmitigated cowardice.

      From what I’ve been reading from a variety of sources, Netanyahu had a very good idea of PBO’s position and the contents of his speech because he had a long conversation with SOS Clinton the night before the president’s speech. It has been reported that Bibi called his rw contacts in the U.S, and they got started on manufacturing the faux outrage. As Goldberg reported, it was as if the AP already had its headline and propaganda hit piece ready to go before PBO gave the speech. I loved that Ha’aretz slams the far right in Israel and the U.S., specifically, AIPAC. Ha’aretz reported that AIPAC and the NY Jews don’t have the power that they think they have because some of the things they’ve tried to accomplish of late have fallen FLAT. It’s interesting to me how some people/groups can overplay their hand to the point that they make people so sick of them that they never want to see or hear from them again. Bibi knows he’s under heavy scrutiny to go back to the peace talks, and he knows that with the ME changing as quickly as it is, his failure to act only further inflames the situation. The Palestinians have already been breaching their borders with Israel using peace protests, and I believe it’s only a matter of time before the number of protesters increase. If that happens, Bibi will have some real serious problems to deal with, and they wont be solved by bullying and using harsh, ridiculous rhetoric.

  11. 21 HZ
    May 20, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    I watched the news briefing with President Obama and Prime Minister Netanyahu and I did not like the manner in which he spoke about the issues in front of the ‘greedy’ media. However, I think that Mr. Netanyahu has met up with the wrong person. President Obama is not a foolish man. You can see that he does not trust Netanyahu. And do not come into the Whitehouse to parade your ugly ways in front of this President, Mr. Netanyahu. The guards have changed, Mr. Netanyahu. This President is going to do what is good and right for the people of Isreal NOT your ego sir.

  12. 24 halo
    May 20, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    It was awesome how POTUS was just staring at Netanyahu.

  13. 25 Chi
    May 20, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Mr Netanyahu is clearly a very immature man immersed in and bound with the shackles of aroggance, bluster, ignorance, pettiness, vindictiveness, rage and hate…

    That Israel would choose, keep and support this very small, short-sighted, self-aggrandizing, egomaniacal, angry, unreasonable, irrational, hateful, crass person stuck in his primitive ways as their leader, is not only sad but incredibly retrogressive and destructive…

    That this man is so unaware and so unpossessed that he comes to the United States and egged on by a handful of loser Republicans, gets carried away and thinks that he can disrespect our President, really exposes just how incredibly short-sighted and ill-equipped Netanyahu is as a leader for anything, least of all for a country in a very precarious and dire situation…

  14. 27 AnitaW
    May 20, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    And next week President Obama meets with leaders of GB, Russia, Germany and China. All who said they support President Obama in his speech yesterday. Netty is quickly becoming isolated from the rest of the world. At some point they will have to take action and step up to the peace process. Or find themselve left out in the cold with no friends.

    And as usual I see the Congress Critters jumping all over this mess. Now Hatch wants to introduce a resolution to condemn POTUS speech. WTF? Where do we live again?

    • 30 majii
      May 20, 2011 at 11:42 pm

      Hatch, the republicans and the stupid dems who support his resolution can go suck a crate of foul, putrid, 10 year old eggs. Hatch is thinking only of his political survival because the tea party has targeted his seat in the next election. If these suckers can agree on a resolution to condemn PBO’s speech, they can agree on the debt ceiling, the budget, and on a proposal to create some d@mn jobs! None of them should get paid one cent for sitting in Congress and doing nothing about any of our pressing issue unless it is something that they think will help them keep their jobs-jobs that they want so that they can heap more misery on the American people.

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