reverend superior

Thanks so much for letting me know about this interview, MB.

It was nice of Joe Scarborough to try and tell the Rev Al Sharpton how the African American community should feel about the President. But it was nicer still that the Rev put Joe – politely – in his place ๐Ÿ˜‰

83 Responses to “reverend superior”

  1. April 4, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    I find Joe so insufferable that I cannot watch the video. Thanks to Al Sharpton though.

    • 2 Sue in Minnesota
      April 4, 2011 at 4:55 pm

      GoBrooklyn….I am a coward, I can not stomach Morning Jackass….I truly hope Rev. Sharpton exposed Joe’s petty, bitter and sanctimonious ass.

  2. 3 collegekay
    April 4, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    Goooo Rev. Al! Joe is so blah. And Mika just kisses his ass all morning. I stopping watching this show last year during the health care debate.

  3. 4 Mae who love our CIC
    April 4, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    They Joe of MSNBC looking for a newsline trying to make the President be a AA President when this country is diverse of other races. A game of politics again.

  4. 5 Proud of Obama
    April 4, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Rev. Sharpton has turned out to be one of PBO’s smartest and staunchest supporters. I saw this discussion this morning and the worse part was when Morning Joke said if he were president (in your dreams! and thank God that will NEVER happen!)) the first thing he would do is address the needs of African Americans. Liar, liar pants on fire!

    • 6 collegekay
      April 4, 2011 at 2:43 pm

      When he said that my face went like -_______-

    • 7 Blackman
      April 4, 2011 at 3:24 pm

      Indeed, Proud.

      I mean, why hide behind: “if I was President”? Here you are with your OWN show with YOUR name in the title. If you’re sooooo concerned, why not, right where you are, do substantive and REGULAR presentations re: race, disparity, poverty and such?????

      But, no. You gotta be President for that (I type while trying to make myself stop damn gagging).

      • 8 V C prezOfan2
        April 4, 2011 at 9:09 pm

        BMan & Co: We all know that this guy does not care one iota about AAs’ needs. He was trying to say “IF I WERE A BLACK PRESIDENT, the first thing I’d address are the needs of AAs’. However, he didn’t have the courage to be so direct. Put those words in his mouth and see if they don’t seem more authentic to him.

        • 9 majii
          April 4, 2011 at 9:32 pm

          I would say that Joe and most of the faux conservatives not only don’t care about blacks, they don’t care about the majority of Americans! I take umbrage when someone like Joe S. tries to tell others something about us. I think that he has so little contact with black people that all he knows is what is reported in the media. I can imagine that he thinks we all live in the ghetto, come from single parent homes, and are receiving public assistance– things with which I have zero experience. I think the new tactic is to try and peel some black votes from PBO because besides Joe S., Limbaugh has begun saying the same thing.

    • 10 Dorothy Rissman
      April 4, 2011 at 7:02 pm

      There has been talk that Joe might consider running for president. Talk about a two faced hypocrite. That is Joe.

      Proud, I also feel Rev. Sharpton has been a strong supporter of PBO. When he goes on MSNBC, they try to get him to say something negative about the president. He play it smart. He might say, well, I wish there was more that could be done, but he never attacks the president.

      • 11 Sue in Minnesota
        April 4, 2011 at 10:48 pm

        And will Mika be his VP. I have said it before here, those two read like a co-dependent abusive relationship. It pains me that Mika doesn’t represent woman in a more positive manner.

  5. 12 makesense4tulips
    April 4, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Thank you chipstick for posting this i will email this conversation.

  6. 13 em bee
    April 4, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    Thanks for posting this Chipsticks!! The GOP and the MSM will do their best to try to divide the base and President Obama’s true supporters. Thank God Rev. Al Sharpton is not part of the Soul Patrol, because together we stand, divided we fall.

    • 14 dotster
      April 4, 2011 at 5:42 pm

      Yes, that is what is going on. Trying to chip away at Obama’s AA support. They try to scare away white people by making it seem that only the black community supports him—that was big during the 08 campaign— at the same time they try to diminish AA enthusiasm for voting for Obama. It’s so obvious—-and disgusting.

  7. 15 Tally
    April 4, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    OMG HAAAAAAAAAA! Smuggy Joe and Co – the group choke sound they all made (except Lawrence because he has functioning brain cells) when Rev Al asked if we should hold Obama to a double standard that we’ve NEVER held a white POTUS to.


  8. April 4, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    You have to either like Sharpton or hate him. Always did like him for his honesty: good or bad. He is articulate, he doesn’t try to reach back to find his most appropriate answers, the answers seem to be right there on the surface. He doesn’t seem cautious about his responses either, and he looks straight at his adversaries without hesitation. In other words he doesn’t mince words.

  9. 17 Fred
    April 4, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    I am normally quite reluctant to watch any clip with repuke shills like Scarborough. As expected, it was peppered with weasel words and rhetorical questions. Every single question and angle designed to try put a wedge between the black community and the president.

    What a douche bag!

    And kudos to Sharpton for keeping his composure.

  10. 18 Blackman
    April 4, 2011 at 3:13 pm


    Firstly, I could go on and on about the Rev. I will say this, though….don’t miss that he was 13 (I was 17) when Dr. King was assassinated. Therein, as these things go, he really wasn’t ever an “official” Civil Rights leader. That mantle belonged to they that came out of the Southern Christian Leadership Committee. He didn’t. Think I could make and win a substantive argument that he became a “leader” due to a MOST impressive ability to self promote and wound up in his “position”, in large measure, due to the msm. And, as he has had that stage, there have been times when he has given me conSIDerable heart burn. Having said that….

    For a few years, now, when in the spotlight, he has actually done rather well and can make points that are both valid and substantive.

    And, he did so, here.

    I was eye rolling when, for example, Joe AND Mika would ASK him questions (i.e. “where are improvements still needed”?), and he would answer. Though, NOT the answer they wanted to hear. He, as he was asked, pointed out how the Pres. is disparaged. Joe and Mika BOTH tried to act as if it wasn’t out of the ordinary. Annnnd, of course, as, AS HE WAS ASKED, he points out race related disrespect aimed at PBO…..BUT…..they don’t wanna hear it. And, tried to put up false equivalency examples with Clinton. And, talk over him to stop him. He beat back alla that. Beautifully.

    Which made this faux “concern” that you most accurately point out, Ms. Chip (trustin’ you are well today ๐Ÿ™‚ ) re: how PBO SHOULD be handling black folk (now, I can say “African American”. but I “came of age” during the 60’s. we was busy killin’ the term “negro”. “black folk/people” just falls off my tongue – and fingers – much more naturally) just seem like a freakin’ JOKE. And, Al CLEARLY gave the “full throated” answer to the PRAGMATIC approach of PBO, they of the blog roll, you, and those of us here like so well. And, donchaknow, after Al leaves, they will go blithely on re: matters of race or diversity (did y’all catch how uncomfortable they both were even when “race” is toned down and broadened out into “diversity”?????? they both are just as “fat and happy” as can be in their little morning positions) as if he was NEVER there.

    Until the next time he or someone representing “the causes” are.

    Yep. I continue to be glad that I do NOT watch those two block heads.

    • 19 louc1
      April 4, 2011 at 7:38 pm

      I have to disagree with one thing you said about Rev. Sharpton. I listen to his radio show almost everyday (for the last couple of years) and he is quick to tell you that he was only 13 when Rev. King was killed and does not claim to be a Civil Rights Icon. He often says people confuse him with being with Jesse Jackson at that time – yet he was not because he was just a boy.
      The Rev Al of today is far different from the one of old and he is one of the best voices of support from leaders in the black community for our President. He calls out Tavis, Cornel and the rest of the Soul Patrol on their criticism of the President.
      Rev. Al is certainly in President Obama’s corner not just on Morning Joke but every chance he gets!

      • 20 EDP4BHO
        April 4, 2011 at 8:59 pm

        Indeed he is. I too listen everyday. Bless Rev Al.

      • 21 Blackman
        April 4, 2011 at 11:34 pm

        Louc1, you and I, it seems to me, are saying much the same thing. Not quite sure what you are disagreeing with me about. He is often referred to as a “Civil Rights Leader”. What I’m pointing out is that that mantel was bestowed on him by the MSM. Al Sharpton, as he does in this clip, tends to refer to himself as a “Community Activist”. And, I think he is quite accurate in his self description.

        And, I also give him credit for really having given level headed, pragmatic assessment and remedy for any number of matters for several years now. Including being extremely supportive of the President.

        The proverbial “Soul Patrol” are grinding axes because they aren’t in the position that Al is in. It’s as simple and PETTY as that.

        You’re preachin’ to the choir, here.

  11. 22 Ladyhawke
    April 4, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    I bet a few sphincter muscles were tightening a bit as Reverend Sharpton told the panel a bit of truth. I was literally out of my seat when he started talking about the double standard. He made Joe look small for asking a question that was purely meant to divide our community. Joe couldn’t help himself, he just had to go negative. It was pathetic.

    I wish Joe would look at the Republican Party record for job creation. There is none. The first 13 weeks with a Republican majority in the House has produced “zero” jobs bills. And they have shot down the jobs bills that the Democrats introduced. In addition to that, the GOP is trying to disenfranchise voters in the black community and dismantle unions. Maybe Joe should have a panel discussion about that.

    I would like to remind Joe of the eloquent words spoken by President Obama the night he won the election. He is not just president for the African American community. He is the president for all Americans whether they voted for him or not.

    ——–President Obama, 11/4/08——————————————

    Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long. Let us remember that it was a man from this state who first carried the banner of the Republican Party to the White House – a party founded on the values of self-reliance, individual liberty, and national unity. Those are values we all share, and while the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress. As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours, We are not enemies, but friends…though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn – I may not have won your vote, but I hear your voices, I need your help, and I will be your President too.


    • 23 Blackman
      April 4, 2011 at 3:36 pm

      True words, Ladyhawke. True words.

      And, note, Ms. Chip (I like callin’ you that) in your and BWD’s blog sites how many black participants you both have, that we’re self indentifying, and what, pretty much to the person, we are saying.

      Yeah, they’re gonna try to split us. I cringe at what Tavis and Cornell are gonna yet say.


      It is NOT GONNA WORK!!!!!!!

      Not to mention when y’all ladies – ALL of you – start carryin’ on about PBO.

      SHAMEless. Again…ALL of you. just SHAMEless.

      And, proud of it, too ๐Ÿ™‚ :-).

    • 25 Eleroy
      April 5, 2011 at 2:13 am

      “He made Joe look small for asking a question that was purely meant to divide our community.”

      LOL, Ladyhawke, Joe needs no help looking small!!! He is a permanently small person in every respect!!! Small fingers too, LOL!!! Probably explains the perpetual bloviating. Somebody is trying to compensate for a very teeny, teeny, weeny nether part!!! LOL!!!

  12. 26 hopefruit2
    April 4, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    I hope Ed Schultz and Huffington have seen this clip. They need to be aware that most Blacks know when they are being used by the racist MSM against PBO, even though Tavis, Cornel and Velma may not know the difference.

    Al Sharpton has also appeared on the Ed Schultz show many times, so I’m sure he will be tuned in to Ed’s “African-American Agenda” show next week.

    • 27 Fred
      April 4, 2011 at 3:46 pm

      Schultz……uggggh! What are that guys rantings….errr ratings like these days? Me thinks that blathering idiots days are numbered.

    • 28 Charmed
      April 4, 2011 at 4:09 pm

      President Obama is going to speak at Rev. Al’s gathering on Wednesday…I bet Tavis and West are pissed….I like the way Rev. Al pushes back on joe with facts…..

      Joe seems to think that only people from the same group should be concerned about each other. (if that makes sense)

      • 29 LYNN
        April 4, 2011 at 6:48 pm


    • 30 Dorothy Rissman
      April 4, 2011 at 7:09 pm

      What, that blow hard is doing a show on African-American Agenda? Tavis, Cornel, maybe he can ask Arianna what she things about it. What I do not want to see if the BCC go on his show and undermine the president. They have to stop that. If I even see a picture of Ed I feel sick to my stomach.

    • 31 majii
      April 4, 2011 at 9:36 pm

      I would say that the majority of blacks don’t listen to Schultz, Arianna, West, Smiley, or many of the others who are pretending to be concerned about black issues. My friends are professional people, and they pay no attention to these folks, so when they begin flapping their gums, they’re not reaching the number of blacks that they think they are.

  13. 33 anniebella
    April 4, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Honestly I don’t care for Joe or his sidekick. Never watch their show.

  14. 34 cat48
    April 4, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    Just once, I’d like to see someone black go “Malcom X” on Joe & Mika. X was wonderful in debates and so clever in all the film I’ve seen. Rev. Al did a good job though. I think the president was wise to bring Rev. Al into his circle; very shrewd, as always. My husband gets a kick out of how far ahead of everybody the president always is….he’s always saying “He’s just so clever!”

    • 35 EDP4BHO
      April 4, 2011 at 9:06 pm

      PBO probably would have brought Corny into his circle if Corny hadn’t taken such a major fit of jealousy and indignation from not having been perceived as the smartest n..in the room (y’all know what I mean). Now the fool’s running around like a chicken beheaded, trying to turn the world against PBO. Would somebody kindly step on his scarf while he’s in transit?

      • 36 bjw2
        April 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm

        Oh, that picture played in my mind and made me laugh.

        I think befrore its all over with this so-called sould patroll is going to get their come-upins from the community.

    • 37 Sue in Minnesota
      April 4, 2011 at 11:05 pm

      I’ld like to see that as well, including the puddle of piss Scarborough would create if he was truly challenged by someone he both underestimates, subconciously fears, and displays no measure of empathy for. I’ld like to see someone mop the floor with that arrogant, sanctimonious, blow hard.

  15. 38 HZ
    April 4, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    One thing I do like about Rev. Sharpton is the fact that he will tell you like it is for him. I also concur with several of my dear friends here today, Rev. Sharpton has always come out saying what he believes to the President and the rest of the world, but he has always spoke with respect for this President. I admire that about him. He has been invited to the WhiteHouse for several important gatherings, and I believe because he listens to the President; he wants to move forward in a positive manner while addressing very hot and difficult issues facing ALL people in our country. I have more respect for him for this very wonderful attitude. It also shows me that Rev. Sharpton is willing to sit and listen to this President. I think that Rev. Sharpton shows how you can enjoy and appreciate an adult in the room who is intelligent, compassionate, focused, and also willing to listen also. It is a wonderful thing to observe how a person can be excited about a new and fresh line of intellect and take hold of it and use it in discussion and interactions with respect, and sheer joy. That is where Rev. Sharpton has come to be, in my opinion. I am proud of his progress and willingness to help this President. Dr. West and Tavis should take some lessons from Rev. Sharpton.

    • 39 EDP4BHO
      April 4, 2011 at 9:08 pm

      Indeed. All so true. And notice that Rev Al and Jesse Jackson both ran for president, but only Rev Al has garnered the respect and ear of PBO? Says something about Rev Al, doesn’t it?

  16. 41 UT Austin Liberal
    April 4, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    I watched Morning Joe this morning and was sooo happy to see Rev. Al Sharpton, Carl Bernstein, Lawrence O’Donnell, and Dr. Jeffrey Sachs school Joe and that insufferable hack Mark Halperin about blaming President Obama for faults that lie directly at the door of the Republicans. It was fun to see smart intelligent people school the likes of Joe and his hand puppet Mika and the other dude Willi who just takes up valubale space that credible people with credible views could occupy.

    • 42 Dorothy Rissman
      April 4, 2011 at 7:15 pm

      UT, I would have liked to see that. So Carl Bernstein, larry O’Donnell also supported the president? Now that makes me happy.

  17. April 4, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    So I am confused do all liberal people want the government to shell out money to them and do everything for them so that they don’t have to pay for anything? I mean last time I checked this was America, home of the American Dream. Which i thought was all about picking yourself up and working hard to provide for yourself and your family. I don’t care if your black, white, gay, straight, fat, skinny, female, male or anything else. Personally, go ahead and do whatever the hell you want but are we really trying to have a socialist country where the government tells us when to sit, stand and eat. please educate me because i try to keep an open mind and I really want to learn and understand the “other side”

    • April 4, 2011 at 8:31 pm

      Hi Geoff,

      Thanks for visiting. I’m happy to have anyone comment here so long as they’re not insulting and accept the fact that this is a blog that supports the President – there are endless numbers of places those who oppose the President can visit in cyberspace, this isn’t one of them!

      Geoff, could you define ‘socialism’ for me? Many, many years ago (far too many to recall!) I studied politics in college and socialism – its roots and modern manifestations – was part of my course. I have to say, the right wing in America are utterly clueless about what ‘socialism’ actually means, it’s just a term of abuse they use. I’d love for you to try and convince a member of the ‘Professional Left’ that President Obama is a socialist. He isn’t Geoff, that’s utter nonsense. It’s Fox News idiocy. (Check how many private sector jobs have been created under this President, compared to the figures for Bush – the contrast is staggering. Does that truly sound like socialism to you?)

      And the notion that “liberal people want the government to shell out money to them” is another Fox-type piece of nonsense. Are you honestly saying that each and every one of the 70 million people who voted for President Obama in 2008 are ‘welfare bums’ looking for Government hand-outs?

      They’re not, Geoff, they’re mainly hard-working people who are also compassionate, when their fellow citizens are in need they want to help, and they don’t want their Government to stand coldly and idly by – that’s ultimately the difference between liberals and conservatives. That’s why the GOP/Tea Party opposed healthcare reform – eg if parents can’t pay for medical care for their cancer-afflicted child, then tough.

      Maybe that’s your America Geoff, but it sure isn’t ours.

      • 45 Dorothy Rissman
        April 4, 2011 at 8:37 pm

        Chips, that was great. You said all the right things. I had something happen this past friday. I was talking about Rick Scott forcing anyone on welfare to have a urine test in order to qualify. The person at dinner said, well, if they can afford drugs, then why should they need help. I said, okay so a couple of them are on drugs, but all of the others must be humiliated by having to give urine samples.

        • 46 Sue in Minnesota
          April 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm

          Too many “self-reliants” neglect to recognize or credit the systems that they have depended on to support and sustain them. I reject the suggestion that anyone can or does succeed on their own. It’s Bull. Pull yourself up by your boot straps…..and if you have no boot straps, what then?

          Too many, refuse to measure the social costs of systemic failure, whether it is poverty, oppression, discrimination, et al. Society bears costs, when we fail to account and measure them, we can not design workable solutions to adequately address our problems.

          We are at the same time individual and part of something larger. Our choices have an impact and influence the whole….it is impossible not to, despite those who have convinced themselves otherwise.

      • 47 virginia
        April 4, 2011 at 9:12 pm

        Chips, your response was a lot “calmer” than the one I just posted. I’ve had a pretty infuriating time on another site today, not to mention waking up to the Sharpton interview this morning on Morning Joke. So I wasn’t quite ready to come here and see the “liberals want a handout” spiel.

        I guess with the announcement of the Presidents reelection campaign, the silly season has officially begun.

      • April 4, 2011 at 9:16 pm

        Ok. Lets talk about healthcare, don’t you think that is a little more then caring about your fellow american? I don’t want people to die because they can’t afford astronomical hospital bills but i don’t think that “obamacare” or national healthcare is the solution. Don’t tax me more to pay for other peoples health care! Lets figure out how to make it more affordable. Lets talk about the obesity issue in this Country. There just seems like so many other options out there but yet all the people on the “left” appear to think obama care is the end all be all and the people on the right disagree with that but still think we should have national healthcare.

        I want my government to protect me and allow me to live in a free country! Not take all my money.

        I mean miilions of dollars are being wasted in this country to pay sports players to play football, basketball and baseball instead of going to helping those are down and out. maybe 25% of all the proceeds from sporting events should go to helping them.

        All I am saying is that why do we have to continue to increase taxes to pay for something that should only be needed for those who are truly down and out?

        • April 4, 2011 at 9:36 pm

          You kind of lost me when you started talking about ‘Obamacare’, Geoff. Honestly, do you get all your information and lingo from Fox?

          I understand, you don’t like taxes, you love ‘freedom’ (which, as you describe it, means ‘low or no taxes’),’ it’s each man for himself, it’s the survival of the fittest, you are not your brother’s keeper. Got it.

          You love America, but you don’t particularly love its citizens – and you certainly don’t want to help any one in need.

          America, for you, is not a nation, it’s a collection of ‘freedom’-loving individuals who should only ever have to look after themselves, and damn the rest. Screw your neighbour, kind of thing? Right?

          Okay, Geoff, we’re different people.

        • 50 majii
          April 4, 2011 at 9:59 pm

          We don’t have a national healthcare system, Geoff because even under the Affordable Care Act, we’ll buy our insurance from companies like Blue Cross Blue Shield. The ACA did not create a national healthcare system. If it had, BCBS would not be able to sell health insurance, all of the hospitals would be owned by the government, and the doctors and nurses would be federal employees. Have you noticed that since the ACA passed, NONE of these things happened? Under the ACA, each of us will continue to pay for our own health insurance. The ACA passed last March, but I am still purchasing my health insurance from United Healthcare, and will continue doing so. Taxes are at the lowest level in 60 years, Geoff, and the taxcuts were extended in December 2010. We all worry about taxes going up. I think a solution would be to cut some of the tax subsides the federal government hands out like candy. For example, GE and EXXON paid no taxes in 2010, but you, I, and millions of other Americans did. We paid MORE in taxes than either of these companies. And guess what? The tax subsidies Big Business and Big Oil received came from OUR pockets. I’m not saying don’t give any subsidies, but I think they should be reduced to relieve your, mine, and others’ tax burden.

        • 51 Sue in Minnesota
          April 4, 2011 at 11:31 pm

          Geoff, sports stars are part of a business enterprise. Americans love and consume sports, they also place a high value on “winning”. When you evaluate the salaries of sports figures, look at the income of their owners. Also consider if these owners benefit from local tax payer dollars to build and maintain their stadiums……a relationship that might make a tax payer go Ummmm! I am not neccessarily comfortable with the salaries that our star atheletes command, but they are part of a very big, profitable business system, and it is unfair to seperate them from the system they are intregal to.

          How about traders on Wall Street, do you feel they are overpayed? How about the salaries and bonuses of corporate executives? Why do we worship at the altar of money in this culture, material is measured/valued more than the human condition and human potential. Upside down in my opinion….I would like to see the human element brought into balance, if not elevated.

    • 52 virginia
      April 4, 2011 at 8:51 pm

      You certainly are confused, Geoff. Because I haven’t heard ONE person here ask you or anybody else for a DAMN thing. I, my family and all of my friends are “libruls”, and ALL of us have worked for years in all kind of jobs and haven’t gotten any help. Most of the men in my family have been in the armed service–father–Army, 2 brothers–navy, cousins(including 2 women)–Army, Airforce, Marines, brothers-in-law–Marines, Air Force and Navy. I have a female relative who has been to Iraq twice, and is now in North Korea. I can trace relatives in every war since the civil war.
      So don’t come here talking to me or anyone else here like you are more of an American than we are, or that you have worked any harder than any of us to achieve the American dream. I’ve worked since I was 14 years old, went to school at night, and bought my first house at 22, and I don’t pretend to be unique. I RESENT the insulting way you conservatives try to paint everybody that disagrees with you with a broad IGNORANT brush. You don’t know me, you are no more patriotic than I am, and I, and nobody here has to explain ANYTHING to you, because your question is foolish.

      The craziest part of your “questions” is that you THINK you have an “open mind”. How can someone as prejudiced as you are (look up the word), claim to have an “open mind”. You came here to cause trouble and to drop a few right wing talking points on us. You’ve done that, now take your “open mind”, and go away.

      • April 4, 2011 at 9:02 pm

        What a magnificent reply, Virginia. I rarely allow these right wing comments through, but when I read this one I knew there would be responses of the quality you provided, so I figured I’d let you all have a word with the guy! No offense, Geoff, but you repeated every mindless Fox/Beck/Palin talking point we’ve heard, so I doubt you’ll think again about your attitudes towards the President and his supporters. I wish you a happy life.

        • 54 virginia
          April 4, 2011 at 9:15 pm

          Thanks, I’m new to this site, so I was afraid I might have gone too far. That’s why I also responded to your reply to Geoff above. Now I feel like this will become one of my favorite spots!

          • April 4, 2011 at 9:23 pm

            You didn’t go too far at all, Virginia – your reply was passionate and truthful, just loved it. And a very belated welcome to the site, thrilled to have you here.

        • 56 V C prezOfan2
          April 4, 2011 at 9:39 pm

          Ms Chips and Virginia,
          Thank you both for the calm, mature approach you’ve used to ‘school’ ‘young’ Geogg! From his ‘arguments’ we know that he’s already been thoroughly brainwashed, but who knows? Maybe the decorum displayed might trigger something in him between now and 2012 itself. One can dream. Proud to be a part of our TOD family!!! ๐Ÿ˜† (Daddy Obama would be proud too. ;))

          [Now that the President has dropped the puck, I can just see more and more of them crawling onto our sites to try and cause mayhem. Bring it on guys! Our team has a focus!!]

    • 57 Sue in Minnesota
      April 4, 2011 at 9:33 pm

      Geoff, glad you want to learn about the “other side”. I think it would be helpful to lose the labels, differentiating us as the “other side” immediately creates a division. Why don’t we skip the labels, and begin from the starting point that we are Americans.

      You mention socialism…..I am wondering how you define that. I wonder how you define Fascism. Can you give examples of current systems that you think are socialistic, those you don’t define as socialistic? Why you think they work or don’t work?

      What is your belief system? Where did that evolve from?

      It would be great to truly have an open discussion…..if you have the time.

    • 58 majii
      April 4, 2011 at 9:47 pm

      This is a myth perpetuated by many on the right side of the political aisle. I’m black, and my family has always worked for what we have. My dad had a very good job with the federal government. I retired from teaching. My daughter graduated from college, and she works. Many on the right say these types of things to appeal to a certain segment of the population who already have preconceived notions about those with whom they have little contact. It’s a form of scapegoating meant to provide the rw with a political advantage in winning elections. No, we don’t have a socialist country, Geoff, not in the sense of say, Sweden, for example. In a socialist economy, we would all own the country’s resources collectively. That would mean that we’d have nationalized oil companies, for example, and we don’t. Alaska is the most socialist state in America because, the AK state constitution mandates that the citizens own the state’s resources, and each year, each citizen in AK receives a share of the oil profits. I wish I were eligible for a portion of the profits from any resource in America, but we have energy companies that sell the oil and pay a share of the profits to shareholders in the form of dividend payments.

  18. 59 Dakota
    April 4, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Whenever people criticize Rev. Sharpton, I tell them this: If it wasn’t for Al Sharpton, many of the injustices committed against people of color in this country would never have been brought to light. He’s been called mess disturber and a media w h o r e among many other names, but I say keep your face in the media…keep troubling those waters Reverend Al, because you don’t do it, there are few left that will.

    I recently saw him speak at the New Mexico legislature and he was magnificent! Many times he brought everyone to their feet for so eloquently speaking truth to power. He spoke of being invited to the White House and President Obama asking him to co-chair a committee on education with Newt Gingrich. He said he hesitated for only a moment because as he said, he and Gingrich can’t agree on what day it is, but he accepted, because he believes in President Obama and his vision. Now he and Gingrich go around the U.S. meeting with school districts with the goal of improving education all over the nation. God Bless you Reverend Al. LOL! I’m sorry, I love my President, but I don’t know if I could be looking in Gingrich’s face that often.

  19. 60 anniebella
    April 4, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    To people like Geoff, I guess the only hard working people who love this country are Republicans. The only ones who work for the American Dream are Republicans, I guess if Rush or Fox say so it’s must be true. These people like Geoff hollow about the Government and how they don’t want the Government telling them what to do. But it is okay for the Government to tell a woman what to do with her body. I am not in favor of abortion, but I am in favor of a woman, her family, her doctor, making the decision she need to make. And Geoff complains about the Government shelling out money to certain people, well what about the rich,they know how to get theirs from the Government too, wasn’t there something about that company GE not paying taxes. But these Fox folks want to always jump on the poor case. You have the Republicans hollowing about the debt, and what’s the thing they fought for the hardest, tax cuts for the millionaires and billionaires. Which would add 700 billion to the decifet. Seem to me I remember Jesus saying take care of the hungry, the sick, the poor, I don’t recall anything said about taking care of the rich. And thank you Chipsticks, for all you said.

  20. 61 Claire
    April 4, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Joe is one of those people who make me cringe. I simply cannot tolerate him.

  21. April 4, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    everytime you see Morning Joke, you should say to the tv screen:


    THAT is the reason his political career is DONE.

    America still hasn’t gotten past this axiom…

    Two things you can’t be caught with as a politician..

    A live boy…

    and a Dead girl…


  22. 63 Asher in Boston
    April 4, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    I love Rev. AL. he doesnt mince words and he sure gave it to Joe the joke. I have always followed the Rev. and no matter what the haters keep calling him i.e Tv whore, race card player, he is always there representing the down trodden and fighting for equal justice.

  23. April 4, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Sue, Chipsticks, and everyone else…i happened upon this site and truly came with a learning attitude I admit that I do watch fox news but i also watch CNN. Unfortunately my wording was to condemning or right winged. The labels are not of hate but simply to define the fact that we have people on two different sides of the fence in this country. I truly am sorry for starting a “war” and my goal was absolutely not to feed into the hype. I just feel like as I am gathering from this site that just as republicans appear to believe that if its not republican, it’s not right. Democrats seem to feel that if it is not from the democrat side it is not right.
    Seriously..my mistake. i apologize for saying anything. i will just keep my thoughts to myself.
    No hard feelings, I hope

    • 66 majii
      April 4, 2011 at 10:04 pm


      I’m a retired social studies teacher who taught U.S. History, civics, and economics for over 30 years. I was not offended by your comments. I welcome them. The only way we’ll ever determine whether we have anything in common is to talk to each other. I’m a retired high school teacher, so come on, I’m not easily offended! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • April 4, 2011 at 10:04 pm

      Hi Geoff, we’re opposite sides of the political tracks (!), but I really do appreciate this message from you. There has been so much hate in the air since President Obama’s election it seems like we, the world over, are more divided than we ever were, so I get kind of jumpy when I see Fox ‘language’ used against the President! Of course, because of your political standpoint, you are opposed to him – and hey, that’s democracy! – but please Geoff, don’t swallow all that Fox stuff. He is a good man who just happens to have a different political philosophy to yours, don’t be poisoned by Fox, etc in to turning that difference in to hate. Thank you again.

      • April 4, 2011 at 10:18 pm

        I will be opening my mouth so i’m sorry for being a liar. I just have one quick question. If everyone is so sure that Fox news is propaganda(sorry for the possible misspelling) How can we be so sure that CNN is not feeding us the same?

        • April 4, 2011 at 10:26 pm

          I’m no fan of CNN either, Geoff, with one or two exceptions I think it’s a largely right wing channel.

          I know the name might put you off (!), but if you ever have the time look through some of the videos on this YouTube channel:


          Remember, Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch – a far right media mogul with a pretty ugly and self-serving agenda. The channel is a joke, even smart right-wingers acknowledge that. Beck, Hannity, Palin, Trump….. it’s embarrassing.

          • April 4, 2011 at 10:32 pm

            wow! so you are hardcore democrat!

            • April 4, 2011 at 10:34 pm

              ๐Ÿ˜† Yup! In other words, I’m on the side of good ๐Ÿ˜†

            • April 4, 2011 at 10:37 pm

              Ah, I see Donald Trump is your pick for the GOP nomination. Was it the ‘birther’ issue that attracted you to him??

              • April 4, 2011 at 11:15 pm

                Actually, No. My bigger reason for liking Trump is that he might actually do something Economically that does not involve raising taxes but also helps the nation. Plus as i said in the post I am tired of the born and raised politicians. I can see for myself that government is not the answer in and of itself. I tend to believe, that people need to be more proactive in helping themselves and others. Which is probably not opinion many on this site share.

                • April 4, 2011 at 11:23 pm

                  Okay Geoff, but you do realize that Trump is a shameless publicity-seeking bigoted racist moron who has absolutely no intention of running for the Presidency, because he has as much hope as me of sitting in the Oval Office any day soon? Although, considering the number of failed business ventures he’s overseen, he’d probably be a perfect GOP candidate. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  See here: http://theobamadiary.com/2011/03/27/chump-update-trumps-white-house-con-began-24-years-ago/

                  • April 4, 2011 at 11:26 pm

                    now see why do you have to go and say stuff like that? If i said one negative thing about obama you would jump down my throat and tell me to go F’ myself. I feel a double standard arising and so with that i bid you, goodnight

                • 77 Sue in Minnesota
                  April 5, 2011 at 12:03 am

                  Geoff people are the government, try being proactive and fully engaged. Takes work. We are an enormously important part of the equation, and our complacency is one of the reasons things have run so far afoul. Do you not recognize in President Obama his constant attempts to energize and engage us fully in the process. That’s what YES WE CAN means. President Obama as a community organizer taught citizens how to engage that power, to make their lives better. People that don’t understand the relevance of his ability and experience in this area are being willfully ignorant. He was teaching people how to HELP THEMSELVES.

                • 78 Sue in Minnesota
                  April 5, 2011 at 1:39 am

                  Hey Geoff…..I probably won’t get a response

                  What is a born and raised politician? Donald Trump has recently lied and spread inflammatory innuendo regarding President Obama. This concerns his matter of birth. How do you feel about him lying/manipulating the truth? Do you think he believes what he is saying? And if you do think he believes the “birther” garbage (actually it’s racist garbage….lets just get real for the sake of candor) than how do you rate his intellect? Do you value intellect in your Presidents? Are you rich? Do you think Donald Trump has the interests of the middle class and poor at heart? Donald Trump has declared bankruptcy several times….is this a measure of a good business man? Can you tell us how your tax situation has been affected since 2009? Government is not the answer in and of itself….can you explain this….what do you see as being the specific functions of government?

                  I just have to say ……I get the impression that you feel resentment about paying taxes…is this true?

        • 79 bjw2
          April 4, 2011 at 10:46 pm


          I for one trust no media outlet. I was always taught from a child up to have my own opinion. There are those on the left i disagree with vehemently as well as those on the right. I myself a liberal who served six years in the Air Force after leaving the military I went to school and got a degree. My father and brother were in the military and we were all brought up around fire arms.

          So Geoff if you give this blog a chance you’ll probably see we have more in common than you think.

    • 80 Sue in Minnesota
      April 4, 2011 at 11:52 pm

      I wasn’t offended either. I seriously think the labels that we project unto each other undermine our ability to discuss issues.
      Conflict is inherent because of the variety of ideas, and the practical experiences that we draw from. The reason I asked you about how your beliefs evolved is people have difficulty with reality, to often they see what they believe. We can get beyond that….but you have to be prepared to be challenged, and strive to keep an open mind. It really helps if you can seperate your emotions from the issues.

      I don’t care if you watch Fox, although if you do so uncritically, I can give you emperical evidence of how you are being mislead, and at times deliberately lied to. Fact. Most of us here are discouraged by the quality of the MSM, and view it always with a degree of skepticism.

  24. April 4, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    I just want to ask Joey about Lori Klausutis, a young intern found dead in Scarborough’s Florida office. Just the facts Joe, just the facts please.

    Ciao form Europe.


  25. April 4, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    not at all! you can’t piss me off over something like that. its not worth my time to get upset over something as trivial as that

  26. 83 conlakappa
    April 5, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Gosh, isn’t it wonderful that nonblack people from the right and left are willing and quick to tell us about the plights of blacks? And the feelings of blacks? I’ve been black my whole life and probably have more of an idea of what that means than some blowhard with a microphone. No, Dr. Corny, in this instance, I wasn’t writing about you.

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