President gave a sincere message on Libya, a message that required a careful, and wise decision, and yet,His message was Compassion for the Libyan People. His message was absolutely clear. He’s definitely Commander and Chief 🙂
ditto shirley and majii. The msm is hollerin Oh noes all over the place. He is starting another war.
This must have been a very difficult decision for the president to make. The military is still against it. A poll showed that about 67% of the populace do not want us militarily engage in Libya.
I am feeling pretty worried. The american people are really getting tired of the two wars that have not ended. If indeed this turns out to be long term, I truly fear the president may not be elected. My heart would break into hundreds of pieces.
I totally agree with you Dorothy! President Obama should not go against his words! He needs to end the wars and I do hope this entering into Libya does not turn out to be a hidden war! I want to trust that Mr Obama is being sincere with his words. I really do not want to see him lose his respect around the world because I truly trust that he might not be voted back into office. I cannot stomach another man or woman other than PBO and his wonderful family in the WH till 2016 but we are in terrible times so I do pray that almighty God will bestow truth, justice and wisdom within PBO. Peace!! Everyday I see the book of Revelations coming into play and I really wished Obama did not inherit this drastic time because I know unlike many others he is a man of peace and love. Please Mr Obama don’t let advisors and critics sway you because we want you as our Leader 2016!!!
I have to disagree with both of you. There’s no way the President would allow innocent people, who are simply trying to get democracy and opportunity for themselves and their children, to be slaughtered in the streets. Doing nothing, looking the other way, wanting to ignore another country’s suffering is exactly how we got Rwanda, Apartheid, The Holocaust. We can never allow another group of people to die while we sit comfortably in our homes, looking the other way. Never again.
He didn’t declare war. He committed to protecting civilians. It might require the military to step in, but right now, France, Britain and Lebanon are taking the lead.
The trick is to actually BE the people you claim to be. We claim to be civilized people who stand for democracy, equality, fairness and dignity for all. We have to stand up for that when we see it threatened in the world.
I think you misunderstood me. I have no problem with what the President said with regards to stepping in and ensuring the safety of innocent Libyans!!! I am simply saying I hope it doesn’t turn into a HIDDEN war!! I hope the President keeps his words! However I believe he needs to put an end to the wars in Iraq (quicker) and Afghanistan because I (and this is just my belief) believe America is fighting a losing battle. Too much innocent American and Afghan lives are being lost. However I believe secret watch should remain with regards too terrorists in Afghanistan! But I know its not as easy as it seems.
so happy the President didn’t fall under pressure from both sides when he made those comments on Libya. I think Gadhafi is mistaken if he thinks the President is playing with him . . .
The facts that President Obama has turned to the UN should be good news for most of us. This business of going it alone, as what’s that cowboy’s name did, even with that coalition of countries the size of Delware with resources to match, was criminal. That agenda alone should have told the populist the “War on Terror” was a farce–anyway it gave Halliburton a chance to get out of bankruptcy.
“Okay, God, Barack Hussein Obama has proven his worth. It’s time to stop laying challenges at his feet. Even you rested on the 7th day.”
DNH; I confess that I actually chuckled at your last two sentences, even though I thoroughly agree with you! Fact is, I never though to pray from this particular angle. Now I have another approach – thanks.
I support the president. I stand with him. I’m still absorbing this War though; and it is an Act of War, United Nations Resolution 1973. The two Clinton’s begged for this from what I hear and read. Bill has all his minions explaining that this will be Obama’s Rwanda if he does not act. Evidently the entire Clinton Administration, including Hillary; are still horrified by the number of deaths there. They are constantly on my TV telling me that action must be taken against Gaddafi. I have a lot of sympathy for their grief over Rwanda; I’m not convinced this Act is the solution though. The Rebels have been pushed into Bengahzi and surrounding cities. In the past 24 hrs., Gaddafi’s troops have assembled 100’s of tanks and artillery on the road to Bengahzi. Their not going in for a peace party. So, what would I do? I just don’t know. Also, glad I’m not the president who sounded tough today. In a cowboy movie, this is when one of the characters say something like, “Things are going to get real mean, now!” (Usually, after a brutal act of some sort.)
The pressure from France and England is steep, too.
Cat, I understand your worry on this issue. To begin, there were close to a million Rwandans murdered. I admit there may be hundreds or even a 1,000 or more killed, which really saddens me, but I am still very concerned they we might really get engaged in this.
I was over on Al Jazeera a while ago, and it looks to me as if a lot of Arabs are going to be very unhappy with this
action. I can read the headlines now. The West is still determined to treat us as if we are children who are incapable of handling our own problems. Well, they probably are not able to do so in some situations, but I know President Obama really wanted to build a better relationship with Africa and the Middle East.
Remember, two weeks ago, people were yelling “Why isn’t the president DOING something?” What, they never explained. The pundits, etc, are having a hard time getting used to this president who thinks before he speaks and acts. We got too used to the “shoot from the hip” guy for eight years. President Obama considers consequences before he acts. On BBC news I heard the British Prime Minister Cameron talking about this as if Britain was taking the lead…..that’s fine with me. I think Europeans appreciate the problems more than most Americans do. They are closer, and know the consequences of ill conceived action or inaction directly. We are protected by the oceans. This is a very focused, limited plan. The French and British planes are the first to go in. For the Arab League to act is a biggie! Only President Obama and Secretary Clinton could have brought that about. The times, they are-a-changin’, even though some are trying to stop the clock.
‘President Obama considers consequences before he acts’
This is precisely why I am not going to second-guess him. I trust the President’s decision as being the best under the circumstances because I know he did not come to his conclusion lightly, OR on his own knowledge. Early in his presidency I remember him promising never to put the troops into harm’s way without first looking at all the ramifications, and he has shown himself repeatedly to be a man of his word. In addition, I’m pleased by the fact that other countries are actively involved in the decision making so no one can legitimately say that he struck out on his own. Should Gaddafi not restrain himself and things get worse, the President (who would have been monitoring the situation and dialoguing with his international colleagues) will, IMO, again make the best possible decision at that time. The President will never be able to please everybody with his decisons all the time, and personally, I’ve decided that I’ll enjoy his decisions/actions while they are working, and not anticipate problems. Those will come when they come, and when they do I’m sure enough adversaries will pile on.
GENERALLY SPEAKING: IMO, and meaning no disrespect, we all should enjoy the positive decisions in the moment and stop traumatizing ourselves by anticipating difficulties. This President has his act together and is leading with insight, as well as with an evident awareness of his responsibility to those who serve militarily.
It is quite clear that Britain, France and the Arab League are taking the lead in this action. The U.S. role is one of “enabling” the joint action of the coalition. No U.S. ground forces will be deployed in Libya, and U.S. participation will be limited to a “well defined goal” of protecting the civilian population. It will be “the right and the responsiblity” of the Lybian people to “determine their own destiny”.
It seems to me that this is a far cry from getting into another conflict without an end in sight. A well thought out international response, with participation of the Arab League and with clear goals and restraints, will likely stop or vastly reduce the bloodshed and will leave shaping their future to the people themselves.
Taking military action is always an extremely difficult decision. President Obama’s criteria of “a focused goal”, “a just cause” and a “strong coalition” will help shape this action and reduce the risks and costs that are inevitably part of securing and stabilizing any region in crisis.
From the beginning Britain and France have been the outspoken ones. I’m sure behind the scenes Pres. Obama has been included along with SOS Hillary and all his advisors. In my heart I’m relieved that our President isn’t giving the impression that he is the top decision maker. We had no prior interests in Libya and especially with Col. Gaddafi although we do have compassion for the rebels in their quest for freedom. This is about the empowerment of other nations that we may interact on a more equal basis. This is smart policy. I am just wondering how Arab League will be involved? It’s time to step back and give others the oportunity to take on leadership as we act in a supportive role. The Libyan rebels do not want us on the ground. This is their fight but they do need an equal fight which they lack because of Gaddafi’s military resources. God bless them.
I fully support the President in this. Leaving the rebels to be slaughtered would be indefensible in my opinion. I have had quiet confidence since this started that this would be the outcome. I think it’s appropriate that this action is taken by a true coalition and has been deemed a legal action by the UN. I believe the President would not seek this outcome without a great deal of soul searching. Like a lot of other people here I will pray for guidance for all the leaders involved in this and hope that the conflict is short and effective and that this action will protect and save innocent lives.
President gave a sincere message on Libya, a message that required a careful, and wise decision, and yet,His message was Compassion for the Libyan People. His message was absolutely clear. He’s definitely Commander and Chief 🙂
Ditto.
ditto shirley and majii. The msm is hollerin Oh noes all over the place. He is starting another war.
This must have been a very difficult decision for the president to make. The military is still against it. A poll showed that about 67% of the populace do not want us militarily engage in Libya.
I am feeling pretty worried. The american people are really getting tired of the two wars that have not ended. If indeed this turns out to be long term, I truly fear the president may not be elected. My heart would break into hundreds of pieces.
I totally agree with you Dorothy! President Obama should not go against his words! He needs to end the wars and I do hope this entering into Libya does not turn out to be a hidden war! I want to trust that Mr Obama is being sincere with his words. I really do not want to see him lose his respect around the world because I truly trust that he might not be voted back into office. I cannot stomach another man or woman other than PBO and his wonderful family in the WH till 2016 but we are in terrible times so I do pray that almighty God will bestow truth, justice and wisdom within PBO. Peace!! Everyday I see the book of Revelations coming into play and I really wished Obama did not inherit this drastic time because I know unlike many others he is a man of peace and love. Please Mr Obama don’t let advisors and critics sway you because we want you as our Leader 2016!!!
I have to disagree with both of you. There’s no way the President would allow innocent people, who are simply trying to get democracy and opportunity for themselves and their children, to be slaughtered in the streets. Doing nothing, looking the other way, wanting to ignore another country’s suffering is exactly how we got Rwanda, Apartheid, The Holocaust. We can never allow another group of people to die while we sit comfortably in our homes, looking the other way. Never again.
He didn’t declare war. He committed to protecting civilians. It might require the military to step in, but right now, France, Britain and Lebanon are taking the lead.
The trick is to actually BE the people you claim to be. We claim to be civilized people who stand for democracy, equality, fairness and dignity for all. We have to stand up for that when we see it threatened in the world.
I think you misunderstood me. I have no problem with what the President said with regards to stepping in and ensuring the safety of innocent Libyans!!! I am simply saying I hope it doesn’t turn into a HIDDEN war!! I hope the President keeps his words! However I believe he needs to put an end to the wars in Iraq (quicker) and Afghanistan because I (and this is just my belief) believe America is fighting a losing battle. Too much innocent American and Afghan lives are being lost. However I believe secret watch should remain with regards too terrorists in Afghanistan! But I know its not as easy as it seems.
Thanks for clarifying, P. 🙂
No problem Theo67 🙂
so happy the President didn’t fall under pressure from both sides when he made those comments on Libya. I think Gadhafi is mistaken if he thinks the President is playing with him . . .
I don’t understand some people’s reaction to the statement.
The facts that President Obama has turned to the UN should be good news for most of us. This business of going it alone, as what’s that cowboy’s name did, even with that coalition of countries the size of Delware with resources to match, was criminal. That agenda alone should have told the populist the “War on Terror” was a farce–anyway it gave Halliburton a chance to get out of bankruptcy.
“Okay, God, Barack Hussein Obama has proven his worth. It’s time to stop laying challenges at his feet. Even you rested on the 7th day.”
DNH; I confess that I actually chuckled at your last two sentences, even though I thoroughly agree with you! Fact is, I never though to pray from this particular angle. Now I have another approach – thanks.
So true.
I support the president. I stand with him. I’m still absorbing this War though; and it is an Act of War, United Nations Resolution 1973. The two Clinton’s begged for this from what I hear and read. Bill has all his minions explaining that this will be Obama’s Rwanda if he does not act. Evidently the entire Clinton Administration, including Hillary; are still horrified by the number of deaths there. They are constantly on my TV telling me that action must be taken against Gaddafi. I have a lot of sympathy for their grief over Rwanda; I’m not convinced this Act is the solution though. The Rebels have been pushed into Bengahzi and surrounding cities. In the past 24 hrs., Gaddafi’s troops have assembled 100’s of tanks and artillery on the road to Bengahzi. Their not going in for a peace party. So, what would I do? I just don’t know. Also, glad I’m not the president who sounded tough today. In a cowboy movie, this is when one of the characters say something like, “Things are going to get real mean, now!” (Usually, after a brutal act of some sort.)
The pressure from France and England is steep, too.
Cat, I understand your worry on this issue. To begin, there were close to a million Rwandans murdered. I admit there may be hundreds or even a 1,000 or more killed, which really saddens me, but I am still very concerned they we might really get engaged in this.
I was over on Al Jazeera a while ago, and it looks to me as if a lot of Arabs are going to be very unhappy with this
action. I can read the headlines now. The West is still determined to treat us as if we are children who are incapable of handling our own problems. Well, they probably are not able to do so in some situations, but I know President Obama really wanted to build a better relationship with Africa and the Middle East.
I too stand with him, but like you, I am worried.
Remember, two weeks ago, people were yelling “Why isn’t the president DOING something?” What, they never explained. The pundits, etc, are having a hard time getting used to this president who thinks before he speaks and acts. We got too used to the “shoot from the hip” guy for eight years. President Obama considers consequences before he acts. On BBC news I heard the British Prime Minister Cameron talking about this as if Britain was taking the lead…..that’s fine with me. I think Europeans appreciate the problems more than most Americans do. They are closer, and know the consequences of ill conceived action or inaction directly. We are protected by the oceans. This is a very focused, limited plan. The French and British planes are the first to go in. For the Arab League to act is a biggie! Only President Obama and Secretary Clinton could have brought that about. The times, they are-a-changin’, even though some are trying to stop the clock.
‘President Obama considers consequences before he acts’
This is precisely why I am not going to second-guess him. I trust the President’s decision as being the best under the circumstances because I know he did not come to his conclusion lightly, OR on his own knowledge. Early in his presidency I remember him promising never to put the troops into harm’s way without first looking at all the ramifications, and he has shown himself repeatedly to be a man of his word. In addition, I’m pleased by the fact that other countries are actively involved in the decision making so no one can legitimately say that he struck out on his own. Should Gaddafi not restrain himself and things get worse, the President (who would have been monitoring the situation and dialoguing with his international colleagues) will, IMO, again make the best possible decision at that time. The President will never be able to please everybody with his decisons all the time, and personally, I’ve decided that I’ll enjoy his decisions/actions while they are working, and not anticipate problems. Those will come when they come, and when they do I’m sure enough adversaries will pile on.
GENERALLY SPEAKING: IMO, and meaning no disrespect, we all should enjoy the positive decisions in the moment and stop traumatizing ourselves by anticipating difficulties. This President has his act together and is leading with insight, as well as with an evident awareness of his responsibility to those who serve militarily.
Got your point VC.
It is quite clear that Britain, France and the Arab League are taking the lead in this action. The U.S. role is one of “enabling” the joint action of the coalition. No U.S. ground forces will be deployed in Libya, and U.S. participation will be limited to a “well defined goal” of protecting the civilian population. It will be “the right and the responsiblity” of the Lybian people to “determine their own destiny”.
It seems to me that this is a far cry from getting into another conflict without an end in sight. A well thought out international response, with participation of the Arab League and with clear goals and restraints, will likely stop or vastly reduce the bloodshed and will leave shaping their future to the people themselves.
Taking military action is always an extremely difficult decision. President Obama’s criteria of “a focused goal”, “a just cause” and a “strong coalition” will help shape this action and reduce the risks and costs that are inevitably part of securing and stabilizing any region in crisis.
Sorry, “Libyan people”
Very well stated, hgerhard. I interpreted the president’s comments in the same way that you did.
From the beginning Britain and France have been the outspoken ones. I’m sure behind the scenes Pres. Obama has been included along with SOS Hillary and all his advisors. In my heart I’m relieved that our President isn’t giving the impression that he is the top decision maker. We had no prior interests in Libya and especially with Col. Gaddafi although we do have compassion for the rebels in their quest for freedom. This is about the empowerment of other nations that we may interact on a more equal basis. This is smart policy. I am just wondering how Arab League will be involved? It’s time to step back and give others the oportunity to take on leadership as we act in a supportive role. The Libyan rebels do not want us on the ground. This is their fight but they do need an equal fight which they lack because of Gaddafi’s military resources. God bless them.
I fully support the President in this. Leaving the rebels to be slaughtered would be indefensible in my opinion. I have had quiet confidence since this started that this would be the outcome. I think it’s appropriate that this action is taken by a true coalition and has been deemed a legal action by the UN. I believe the President would not seek this outcome without a great deal of soul searching. Like a lot of other people here I will pray for guidance for all the leaders involved in this and hope that the conflict is short and effective and that this action will protect and save innocent lives.