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daytrippers

AJC: President Barack Obama is snorkeling with friends and family at Hanauma Bay, a favorite destination for the first family during their Hawaiian vacations.

The president’s motorcade arrived at the nature preserve late Tuesday morning. The area is closed to the public on Tuesdays, giving the president’s party a chance to enjoy the bay in private.

Earlier in the day, the president made his daily trip to the gym at Marine Corps Base Hawaii….

…Reporters and photographers following Obama “are under explicit instructions that there will be no long lenses or other sneaky attempts to take pictures”. The Hanauma Bay Nature Preserve is “closed off” for the two hours that the Obamas are there, the pool says.


27 Responses to “daytrippers”


  1. 1 Hachikō
    December 28, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Eh. I saw the headline and thought you were referring to the sanctimonious liberal elite who’ve been “tripping” all day over the President’s comments re Michael Vick.

    • December 28, 2010 at 5:51 pm

      LOL, no not those trippers! Although …. hate to say it, but I was a bit disappointed in the President offering Vick support, and PETA backing that decision. I know everyone deserves a second chance, but what Vick did was so utterly repulsive I just want to see him go away…..for a very, very long time. But who knows, if he devotes himself to spreading the anti-animal-cruelty message maybe he can do some good. I won’t ever be able to stop despising him, though, sorry to say.

      • 3 Jessica
        December 28, 2010 at 6:11 pm

        I didn’t hear the comments, what were they?

        • 4 Hachikō
          December 28, 2010 at 6:17 pm

          “He said, ‘So many people who serve time never get a fair second chance. He was … passionate about it. He said it’s never a level playing field for prisoners when they get out of jail. And he was happy that we did something on such a national stage that showed our faith in giving someone a second chance after such a major downfall.” http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/Obama-vick-112544584.html

          • 5 Jessica
            December 28, 2010 at 6:25 pm

            When did he say this? This is the first time I’m hearing about it.

          • 6 kelly
            December 28, 2010 at 7:06 pm

            First time I read it I cried. I know many folks (especially minorities) that are still struggling to get that second chance after whatever the circumstance. God I love this President.

      • 7 Hachikō
        December 28, 2010 at 6:13 pm

        As I said to someone else, I’ll reserve my forgiveness until I see how much good comes from Vick’s attempts at redemption.

        But what I got from POTUS’ comments was praise for Eagles’ owner for giving Vick a second chance. I didn’t see any praise for Vick. There are too many young black ex-cons out there who do need a second chance and the Eagles’ owner is showing that it can be done and it can work.

        • December 28, 2010 at 8:01 pm

          Hi Hachiko, Just a comment. You guys please don’t do a “smackdown” on me, but where I grew up in the South,dog fighting was not a crime. It is despicable to treat animals this way, but it is done and is being done on a wide scale. It is not just Black thing either. It is gambling and all nationalities participate every Friday and Saturday nights. Law Enforcement looked the other way when I was growing up because they were placing bets too. I used to hear my father’s friends talk about it a lot when they thought we were asleep. And I have seen a few dog fights which to this day brings back awful images. Other than PETA, most people in the South know it’s done. I believe it was brought to light on Vick because of his growing status in football (huh, an outstanding, Black Quarterback?). I couldn’t understand these hypocrites when Vick was arrested. In the South, dogs are bred for the purpose of fighting. And they still are. YES, it is the worst thing you can do to a helpless animal. If this were not done just to bring Vick down, then why didn’t they wait until they could have gotten the whole syndicate of Dog Fighting arrested then you would have seen the connections of the whole “money driven” organization. You would have been able to see who the net would have grabbed. It would have really surprised you. Vick was left holding the bag because it was on his property. Were the dogs fighting in the basement just for Vick’s sake? Who else was there? The whole lot of them should have arrested. Dog Fighting is a noisy encounter. You can’t hide it for long. I am surely apprehensive about posting this, but it is real what goes on.

          • December 28, 2010 at 8:31 pm

            Hey graciouslady, nobody’s going to smack you down – not on this blog any way! Never EVER be afraid to express your views here, they are much appreciated.

            Thanks so much for your insight, tragically dog-fighting is hugely popular where I come from too, and there’s big money involved in it as well. I just don’t know enough about the Vick case, other than the horrific cruelty involved, to comment on it, I just find it so depressing that there’s a desperately ugly section of every society – that includes every class, color and creed – that takes pleasure from inflicting hideous cruelty on animals. Vick can go to hell, as far as I’m concerned, I’ll leave it to others to give him a second chance, I’m just not big enough to do it….but that won’t worry him.

            • 10 Hachikō
              December 28, 2010 at 9:17 pm

              Thanks for your response to graciouslady, Chip. I just checked back in and so her comment.

              I think Vick himself was cruel to those animals – wasn’t he? Shot them. Strangled them? I just remember the details being really vile and him being directly involved.

              Dog fighting, chicken fighting etc are big money sport here and in other parts of the world. It’s horrific. It’s inhumane. But my issue isn’t so much with the dog fighting as it is with the downright evil he perpetrated on those poor dogs.

              I’m no football fan and I’m definitely no Michael Vick fan. But if he’s genuine in his contrition, then let him try to redress his crimes.

      • 11 kelly
        December 28, 2010 at 7:02 pm

        Wait is this real? Where was the President giving Mr. Vick support? Respectful speaking, nobody says you should stop despising Mr. Vick, if that is what you choose to do with your energy but he has served the time the law gave him. That is how it works. Crime, time, rehabilitate, move on. Not crime, time, then time again when you are set free.

        ps CS I ❤ you. just wholeheartedly don't agree with the comment. 🙂

        • December 28, 2010 at 7:55 pm

          Love ya back Kelly, no worries at all, we’re rational enough to disagree without falling out! I didn’t mean that the President was personally supporting Vick, only that he made a call to express his support for him being given a second chance. I know hating is a waste of energy, but when I was reading about Vick on a few sites today and saw those photos again of the dogs he brutalised…. ah heck, it was really hard not to start hating again.

  2. December 28, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    Yes…….he called the Eagles owner and talked to him about the 2nd chance he was giving Vick.

    Over on BWD’s blog there is a huge discussion over this – if you’d like to see a few different opinions.

  3. 15 sduncan
    December 28, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    If you break the law and are convicted you serve your time. You should be able to start over and not continue to be punished. Exconvicts are stopped from getting jobs and being able to take care of their families which is wrong.

    • December 28, 2010 at 7:15 pm

      Absolutely agree, once you serve your time you deserve a second chance, and Vick deserves a second chance like everyone else. It’s just a personal thing for me, I find it hard to stomach seeing someone responsible for such vile cruelty returning to the limelight. I can forgive most things, except cruelty to children and animals (which come from the same mindset – enjoyment of inflicting pain on defenceless creatures). In my very humble opinion there are thousands – millions? – of ex-convicts more worthy of support and sympathy than Vick. I really wish the President had stayed out of this, but I’ve learnt to trust his judgment.

      • 17 AnitaW
        December 28, 2010 at 7:53 pm

        His call the Eagle organization wasn’t just about Vick. It was also about the organization having the only “green stadium” in the country. And, it didn’t voice support for Vick as the headlines are reporting. He congratulated the Eagles organization on giving an ex-convict a second chance. I was listening when Peter King from SI reported on this call and there wasn’t about support for Vick in what was reported.

        And, I love my dogs. I have two at home. And I watch the NFL everytime there is a game on and while I probably won’t run out and buy a Michael Vick jersey that doesn’t mean I begrudge him getting his life back on track.

        That being said, I love your blog.

        • 18 Hachikō
          December 28, 2010 at 9:20 pm

          That was my take away too, Anita. The president wasn’t praising Vick, he was praising Lurie for doing such a big thing in giving Vick a second chance.

  4. 19 Asher in Boston
    December 28, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    Guys, he served his time, even got a longer sentence than people that have raped women, molested kids and some that have murdered people, most espcially when the killed are minorities. E.g cops killing blacks( Shot in the back) and are given months in jail and no hell was ever raised as in this case. By the way I dont condone what he did. But for christ’sake, he DID NOT KILL A HUMAN BEING.

    • December 28, 2010 at 10:21 pm

      Not true Asher, Vick spent less than two years in prison.

      And it’s just not right to compare this case to, for example, cops murdering innocent men and women – why can’t we, as decent human beings, be repulsed by both? Wrong is wrong, evil is evil – we don’t have to grade it.

      No, Vick didn’t kill a human being, but any human being capable of inflicting unimaginable cruelty on a defenseless creature, and taking pleasure from it, is someone who is capable of just about anything. Look at the history of most serial killers, for example: step one in their ‘careers’ is cruelty to animals. It’s the loudest possible alarm bell for society, but most choose to ignore it because they don’t think animal cruelty is a big deal.

  5. 21 Audrey
    December 28, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    I’m with Asher on this one. It appears that those screaming the loudest and demanding that Vicks be denied any chance at a decent livelihood somehow fail to see their own hypocrisy.
    We have people like sarah palin shooting, maiming and killing animals for sport on television and she is hailed for it and celebrated and yet we are to hate and despise Michael Vicks?

    A young unarmed man is subdued and shot in the back and his murderer, a police officer is sentenced to a year in jail with credit for time already served, for “involuntary manslaughter” and nary a peep from those who insist that Michael Vicks must be destroyed.

    Sorry but none of this makes sense to me.

    I wish Mr. Vicks the best as he tries to rebuild his life while sarah palin continues to kill for sport to loud cheers and hoorays and the family of the dead young man continues to mourn not only his loss but a complete failure of a justice system and an activist public that once again screams out that the life of a young black man is worth so much less than that of a dog.

    That in 2010, a young white police officer can walk free for MURDERING an unarmed young black man, but a rising black athlete who grew up under the most dysfunctional circumstances must be held to higher standards and permanently destroyed because he participated in what was a culturally acceptable even if horrific sport that hurt dogs.

    In my opinion, the life of an animal can never be worth that of a human being, never; and as long as there are people screaming for Vicks to be destroyed while keeping mum at the murder of fellow human beings, I cannot take them and their lopsided outrage seriously. Sorry.

    • December 28, 2010 at 11:37 pm

      Why do we have to compare the life of an animal with that of a human being? Can we, as decent people, not be repulsed by the torture and abuse of animals AND human beings?? Why do we have to make it a competition between the two? And because Vick tortured animals, rather than human beings, does that make him okay?

      I’m just not getting these arguments.

  6. 23 Audrey
    December 28, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    When the outrage against Vicks is louder and more persistent and not even a whisper of disgust for the police officer, there is a big problem as far as I can see.

    • 24 EDP4BHO
      December 29, 2010 at 9:57 am

      I’m with you on this Audrey. CS, there is not a comparison of dogs to humans going on; more so the disparities in punishment. Amadu Diallo shot 41 times….where was all the outcry from the masses as is going on still about Vick’s behavior? It’s true that a larger premium is held for animals in this country than for innocent black men and boys. Black people have been preached to for decades to forgive the sins of slavery, Jim Crow, and continuing bias by white people, yet one lone black man does something heinous (no more so than the crime of lynching), and santimonious folk feel he owes them a “personal” apology. (Not speaking of you CS). His apology was in the time he did, in the conversions he has made, and the humility he has already shown. Furthermore, he has been forgiven by the Almighty. This same attitude was shown by the sanctimonious toward Tiger Woods…all the rantings about he owing “us” an apology. Give me a break. He owed that to his wife and family…no one else. So where are all the requests for apologies from all of the white athletes and entertainers whose behavior was far from stellar in recent years? Not hearing it yet. Not to make this a racial subject, but in this country, race matters. Unfortunately. Just my 2 cents a day later. Also, CS, I do respect your deep concern in the matter. This subject just evokes a lot of emotions, on each side.

  7. December 29, 2010 at 1:05 am

    Are the President’s phone calls tapped? Where is this information about the phone call coming from. Did the Eagles’ owner relay the call to the media, Wheeeew. I’ve watched Vick’s career from the beginning and btw, I think they are getting their butts handed to them, Tonight!!! I’ve watched an extremely talented, confident young man reach out and (before the dogfighting scandal) grab some of the glitter with his outstanding abilities as a Quarterback. I sincerely hope, not because of what Michael has done in his youth, the Team is Not penalized (biased calls on the field) for his past mistakes but that he and his teammates can win the playoffs and bring home the Superbowl championship to Philadelphia/2011. To quote Desmond Tutu and the title of his book, (There is)”No Future without Forgiveness”.

    • 26 Dee
      December 29, 2010 at 1:34 am

      I agree. This was a private phone call. Did the owner contact the press immediately afterwards about their phone conversation? I’ve read the exchange between The President and the owner. The President had condemned the crime but also believe in 2nd chances along with talking about renewable energy the stadium.

  8. 27 lexusv
    December 29, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    To lighten the subject, all I know is Michael Vick is a cutie, and has a very sexy mouth ;o) I don’t agree with what he allowed done or did to dogs, but it is wrong in my opinion to hold a person penalized forever for a crime when he has repented. As humans we all evolve from the wrongs we commit. Vick gets his second chance because he is so good at something that entertains us. We as a scoiety have to evolve into extending an olive branch to the bank robber, gtang memeber, drug abuser, and yes even murders who have paid for their crime and have rejoined our society. The denial of such people on leads to more crimes and lost hope.


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